Time  Nick        Message
00:30 eythian     wahanui: linux
00:30 wahanui     well, linux is soo coool. I'm running two VMs inside rhcl's OpenSuse desktop, and trying to convince myself I need to have another one with some version of RH running "just because"
00:30 eythian     wahanui: linux is also http://dilbert.com/fast/1995-06-24/
00:30 wahanui     okay, eythian.
00:39 oleonard    Someone please restrain me from responding to that OPAC theme thread
00:40 rangi       oleonard: dont respond
00:40 rangi       threads like that make it almost useless posting questions like galen asked
00:40 oleonard    There, I feel better. Thanks.
00:41 oleonard    Where are you rangi?
00:41 rangi       SFO
00:41 rangi       i think im flying out of here at 9
00:41 gmcharlt    fingers crossed
00:41 oleonard    :( Not so soon, but sooner than tomorrow eh?
00:41 rangi       lucky i turned up early to the airport in reno, cos my 5pm flight was cancelled
00:42 rangi       so i got on the 12.03 which took off at 4pm
00:42 peggy       Have a peaceful flight, @rangi
00:42 rangi       its all jammed up, but apparently the big planes are mostly on schedule
00:44 oleonard    Best of luck rangi
00:44 rangi       thanks
01:15 mtompset    Regarding the OPAC theme thread... has anyone thought to co-relate the potential number scheme with it?
01:16 eythian     I don't think that's come up.
01:16 eythian     It could be a suggestion. It's not really a big change, but it is a user-visible one.
01:21 mtompset    Because default in 3.14? No... default in 3.16? Hmmmm.... I'm for an announcement about impending 4.0 with the new default theme. :)
01:35 wizzyrea    ^ new default theme is a great excuse to version bump to 4
01:35 wizzyrea    and then major number from there on.
01:37 mtompset    And the whole DBIx stuff will have been in for 2 versions already, and nicely working. If I recall/understand correctly.
01:41 wizzyrea    is the unsuspend cron a default one?
01:41 wizzyrea    unsuspend suspended holds
01:41 wizzyrea    I should say
01:43 eythian     I don't think it is
01:44 eythian     debian/koha-common.cron* should tell you
01:45 wizzyrea    thank you that is exactly what I needed to know
01:45 wizzyrea    where to look :)
01:48 wizzyrea    right cool thanks
01:48 wizzyrea    easier than checking a running system
02:10 wizzyrea    @wunder nzwn
02:10 huginn      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
02:10 wizzyrea    clear. really.
02:30 mtompset    @wunder l7e 5y5
02:30 huginn      mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 2.2°C (10:30 PM EDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
02:31 mtompset    Care to send a few degrees with way, wizzyrea?:)
02:39 wizzyrea    wow that's chilly
02:39 wizzyrea    clear is a stretch - but looks like we've caught a break in regard to wind
02:39 wizzyrea    @wunder nzwn
02:39 huginn      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising).
02:40 eythian     huginn needs to be taught about wind.
02:40 huginn      eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
02:40 wizzyrea    *nod*
02:40 wizzyrea    @wunder help
02:40 huginn      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Poplar Bluff, Missouri is 5.0°C (8:53 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am CDT Friday... 
02:40 wizzyrea    O.o
02:41 user00_     @wunder 64507
02:41 huginn      user00_: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 2.0°C (9:41 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am CDT Friday... 
02:42 wizzyrea    br.
02:42 rambuten    We're colder than Ontario?
02:42 wizzyrea    did we get down to 2 this winter? I don't think we did...
02:42 wizzyrea    not down in wellington proper anyway.
02:43 rambuten    I went and picked everything edible from the garden after work
02:43 rambuten    put a bunch of hot peppers in the dehydrator
02:43 wizzyrea    niiiice
02:44 eythian     Nah, Wellington doesn't get to 2.
02:44 eythian     5 is pretty damn cold for here.
02:47 wizzyrea    i saw a 5 one day. That was... unpleasant. But still not as cold as Kansas. I never put on my "winter" coat.
02:47 rambuten    @wunder lawrence, ks
02:47 huginn      rambuten: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 4.3°C (9:47 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect from midnight tonight to 9 am CDT Friday...
02:47 rambuten    ha! downright warm
02:48 wizzyrea    I daresay I wish the unsuspend holds cron had a test mode.
02:48 rambuten    time for my sleep quantum
02:55 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha.
03:05 eythian     wizzyrea: a patch to add the holds thing to the packages wouldn't be a bad thing, now you know what's needed... :)
03:14 wizzyrea    yarp
06:12 * magnuse   waves
06:13 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:14 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady).
06:14 magnuse     "rain" is a very apt description...
06:33 reiveune    hello
07:46 samueld     hi everybody
09:24 kivilahtio  hi samueld
09:54 busla       hey
10:11 busla       "This instructions assume that your Koha checkout is /srv/koha. If it's in some other location, you have to change /srv/koha to correct folder throughout all scripts below."
10:11 busla       just wondering about this documentation in Plack
10:11 busla       my /srv folder is empty
10:35 magnuse     cait-m!
10:35 wahanui     cait-m is probably on a train :-)
10:35 magnuse     or a plane?
10:35 wahanui     a plane is 20 mins late
10:35 magnuse     that's a shame!
10:37 magnuse     cait-m_!
10:49 petter      hi folks!
10:49 petter      anyone has experience with Koha & RFID?
10:54 kivilahtio  hi petter!
10:55 NateC       Morning everyone :)
10:55 petter      hi Olli!
12:03 gaetan_B    hello
12:32 * cait-m_   waves from zuricj
12:32 cait-m_     zurich
12:32 kivilahtio  jcamins: oleonard:
12:32 kivilahtio  FYI
12:33 kivilahtio  I think I have a working filter and system preferences
12:33 kivilahtio  next stop unit test and documentation phew.
12:35 jcamins     kivilahtio: I think you could just use a regular link.
12:35 jcamins     No need for a button.
12:35 jcamins     But looks like a useful feature!
12:44 druthb      cait-m_:  you're nearly home!
12:48 kivilahtio  jcamins: And it seems to work :)
12:49 kivilahtio  jcamins: I am not sure, I think it looks better like this with the clear-button. Without the clear button the plain link is better. But your feedback is much appreciated and I will think about that.
12:50 kivilahtio  jcamins: Even two sysprefs already included :) wow I am so proud of myself !
12:50 jcamins     oleonard is the person to talk to about UI.
12:50 kivilahtio  working with Koha is really cool
12:50 kivilahtio  anyway have to go enjoy the farmers market in Northern Finland
12:50 jcamins     Poor you, being forced to leave work early to go to a farmer's market. :P
12:51 jcamins     I bet you can get really good fish there.
12:52 kivilahtio  no idea. I bet I could get pretty good anything there
12:52 kivilahtio  thanks for your help jcamins. HAve a great weekend
12:52 jcamins     You too.
12:57 Joubu       kivilahtio: I just seen your link. Do you know the same filters stuff still exists in the staff interface ?
12:57 Joubu       kivilahtio: page catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=XXXX
13:21 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
13:22 druthb      hi, mtompset  :)
13:28 mtompset    @seen tcohen
13:28 huginn      mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 3 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <tcohen> byeeee
13:42 oleonard    Hi #koha
13:44 mtompset    Greetings, oleonard.
13:45 mtompset    What do you think of the idea of changing numbering, Koha 4.0 lining up with a new default theme (Bootstrap)?
13:46 oleonard    I think that would be overly dramatic.
13:46 mtompset    so, too much?
13:47 mtompset    Because we should change the major number at some point in time, and with DBIx getting in, and Bootstrap coming up. It seems like 3.14, 3.16, 4.0 seems like a good progression.
13:48 oleonard    Yeah, but Bootstrap is in for 3.14, so it's not like it will be a surprise.
13:51 mtompset    But it is desired to not be default, as far as I can tell from the conversation.
13:51 oleonard    From what I can tell people don't really understand what default means in this context.
13:56 ashimema    lol.. people indeed don't seem to understand the term 'default'.
13:57 ashimema    side note.. skip 4 and goto 5 so we don't get more mixed up with the liblime mess ;)
13:58 ashimema    that would be my preferred option at some point anyway..  though I'm happy with the 3.x releases
13:58 oleonard    It has certainly been discussed
13:58 gmcharlt    Introducing, Koha δ!
13:58 oleonard    Also: Hi ashimema :) Travel go okay?
14:04 ashimema    Yeah.. not bad.. had company for the middle stop which was nice.. got to know brooke a bit better
14:05 ashimema    yourself oleonard?
14:05 ashimema    actually.. I rather like the idea of switching to greek alphabet releases starting with pi ;)
14:05 ashimema    certainly would distinguish us.. hehe
14:07 oleonard    Nothing to report about my travel home. I was not groped by any grumpy TSA agents, so that's always a win.
14:09 mtompset    alpha, beta, delta, PI? ;)
14:10 gmcharlt    Koha χ would be next if we were going in order :)
14:10 gmcharlt    er, no, I can't read
14:10 gmcharlt    make that Koha ρ
14:11 mtompset    gmcharlt: I thought you were releasing an alpha release, a beta release, a delta release, and then the official pi release. ;)
14:11 oleonard    There goes our Googlability ;)
14:11 gmcharlt    heh
14:12 ashimema    haha..
14:13 mtompset    -- expect in Greece. :P
14:13 mtompset    except even. DOH!
14:14 oleonard    Κοηα?
14:14 ashimema    haha. starting with pi in the greek alphabet would give us only another 10 release's untill we run out of letters. :p
14:15 gmcharlt    @quote add <oleonard> Κοηα?
14:15 huginn      gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #280 added.
14:15 mtompset    Let's not mess with the name, oleonard . :P
14:16 mtompset    And greek lettering is all fine, but TransformToNum() in updatedatabase.pl would need to be reworked. :P
14:19 mtompset    Well, I better get going... puts drivers hat on.
14:19 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha.
14:35 oleonard    'Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at C4/Items.pm line 1407'
14:35 oleonard    Is there a way to track down the cause of that error?
14:37 oleonard    Oh never mind, stale zebra index.
14:37 oleonard    But too bad Items.pm can't gracefully handle that kind of problem :|
14:55 oleonard    jcamins around?
15:20 oleonard    khall around?
15:20 khall       yo
15:20 oleonard    About Bug 8004...
15:20 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8004 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Items on hold lose transfer after being scanned twice
15:21 khall       yeah, were these followups post-push? or am I way off?
15:21 oleonard    They have not been pushed. I'm not sure what the sequence was though.
15:22 oleonard    The first follow-up is from you. Isn't it needed?
15:22 khall       that's where I'm confused. In master I can see "Bug 8004 - Items on Hold Lose Transfer After Being Scanned Twice"
15:22 khall       commit 81edc91f37b58a5f3c02443073c5bc4d4411bf82
15:23 khall       my followup is superflous since there is another bug to clean up all the template plugin names
15:24 oleonard    Okay, so I guess the question is whether my follow-up is superfluous too or whether Bug 10626 takes care of it
15:24 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Remove doubled up TT plugins
15:25 * oleonard  is checking what changes 10626 makes
15:25 khall       I would say yes
15:25 khall       10626 covers the same files
15:26 oleonard    Yeah, looks like it.
15:26 oleonard    Okay so 8004 should really be set back to "pushed to master" I guess
15:26 khall       should we just change 8004 to RESOLVED?
15:26 khall       cool, can do
15:26 oleonard    Or that :)
15:28 oleonard    cait!
15:28 khall       g'day cait!
15:28 cait        hi khall and oleonard
15:28 cait        i miss you guys!
15:28 khall       likewise ; )
15:28 oleonard    Yeah!
15:29 cait        teleporters...
15:29 khall       still working on it
15:29 cait        keep going - we need that done asap!
15:30 khall       I think cannons are more doable than teleporters
15:30 oleonard    Ballistic transportation pods?
15:30 cait        you want to shoot us with a cannon? hmm
15:30 khall       great name!
15:30 cait        maybe like those old bottle post systems
15:30 oleonard    A series of tubes!
15:30 * cait      is eating a last leftover kohacon cookie right now
15:31 khall       heh, I've been working on those gummy bears!
15:31 cait        :)
15:32 * oleonard  is happy to report that the bottle of wine cait generously passed on to him made it home safely
15:32 cait        :)
15:33 * oleonard  distributed some other KohaCon swag to those here who paid his bills
15:33 cait        :)
15:35 jcamins     oleonard: vaguely.
15:36 oleonard    jcamins: Now or later I'd like to hear again how you handle on-the-fly compiling of LESS files during dev
15:36 jcamins     Sure. It's really easy.
15:36 jcamins     I have a toggle that decides whether to include the LESS directly, or whether to use prerendered CSS.
15:37 jcamins     If dev mode is on, the LESS is compiled using JS in the browser.
15:37 jcamins     If it is off, the CSS file is served instead of the LESS + JS.
15:40 oleonard    What is the toggle?
15:40 jcamins     A configuration file setting in my case, but you could make it into a system preference if you wanted.
15:42 ashimema    That sounds like a nice feature ;)
15:43 jcamins     ashimema: only necessary if one uses LESS.
15:43 oleonard    I want to make it easy for others to contribute changes to the new bootstrap theme without necessarily having to make changes to their dev environment
15:43 jcamins     Or SASS. Or SCSS.
15:43 jcamins     oleonard: oh, so you decided to use LESS?
15:44 oleonard    Yes, the new theme's CSS is built from LESS files
15:44 ashimema    Indeed... but with any luck some people might start using LESS with the bootstrap theme coming.. I know I'm hoping to.. I already use it in a few other projects.
15:44 * cait      waves at ashimema :)
15:44 ashimema    hey cait. :)
15:44 cait        just got home and ate the last cookie and caramel popcorn... probably a bad idea :)
15:44 jcamins     ashimema: yeah, I like LESS a lot.
15:45 ashimema    It would be even nicer to have OPACUserCSS support LESS out of the box.. (I actually prefered SCSS when I initially started playing for some reason)
15:45 oleonard    Unless you wanted to make it dependent on JS you'd have to include some kind of LESS compiler with Koha
15:46 gmcharlt    hi cait!
15:46 cait        hi gmcharlt :)
15:46 jcamins     oleonard: well, technically, you'd be depending on JS either way. ;)
15:46 oleonard    jcamins: I mean a server-side compiler that wrote the CSS file
15:46 jcamins     I know.
15:46 oleonard    ?
15:47 ashimema    Yup.. I undestand that..
15:47 jcamins     oleonard: the LESS compiler is written in JS, which suddenly struck me as amusing. I guess I was the only one who found it funny.
15:48 gmcharlt    just not client-side
15:48 oleonard    I could see a system where saving the OPACUserCSS/JS prefs triggered a grunt task that recompiled CSS and JS
15:48 jcamins     Right.
15:49 ashimema    there are a whole bunch of online services to do the LESS compile for you.. wonder if any have an api such that we could send it off them them and get the css back.. (saving us code)
15:49 ashimema    mind you.. this is probably very outside of koha's normal user cases.. bet most people don't customise 'that' much.
15:50 gmcharlt    you'd be surprised
15:50 gmcharlt    I'd prefer handing off to a server-side compiler, though
15:50 jcamins     I feel like it'd be better to just use CSS::LESS and cache the results if it reaches that point.
15:50 ashimema    I'm horrified by how muhc some of our sites rely on OPACUserJS to do crazy things.
15:50 ashimema    ooh.. didn't know there was a CSS::LESS
15:51 ashimema    that's a muhc nicer solution
15:51 gmcharlt    ashimema: yeah, though in some respects that's better than the bad old days of folks editing templates on a whim -- with or without version control
15:52 gmcharlt    that == OPACUSerJS, to be clear
15:53 cait        hm did someone hear from rangi?
15:53 cait        seems lots of problems ith flying over sfo today
15:54 rambutan    @seen rangi
15:54 huginn      rambutan: rangi was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 9 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <rangi> thanks
15:54 cait        logs?
15:54 wahanui     logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
15:55 ashimema    gmcharlt: very true.. we've got a few places with the good 'ol edit the template method out there too (at elast they're in git).. but I go mad every time I have to upgrade them.. slowly proting them all to OPACUserCSS and OPACUserJS only customisations.. there's not much you can't do with those prefs now.
15:58 ashimema    Looks like I need a spellchecker in irc.. so many typos in that last message.. :$
16:00 gaetan_B    bye !
16:00 cait        ashimema: we can read typo
16:00 cait        don't worry
16:06 oleonard    Oh by the way, I'm not making much headway with the Reno tourism board regarding my suggested new motto: "RENO: Bring lotion!"
16:06 jcamins     oleonard: that's because you're not a first-grader.
16:06 cait        ?
16:07 jcamins     Apparently the motto was the result of a competition for first-graders.
16:08 jcamins     Entertaining for lunch is really difficult.
16:08 druthb      cait!
16:08 jcamins     What do you serve?
16:09 druthb      oleonard++ #new Reno slogan
16:09 jcamins     I'd make this: http://foodbabbles.com/2012/02/endive-pear-chevre-tart/ except that my guest is allergic to onions and shallots.
16:17 * oleonard  has never heard of someone being allergic to onions
16:17 jcamins     oleonard: neither had I, before I met this person. She and her mother are both allergic.
16:17 jcamins     Wait, father.
16:17 oleonard    that must be a tough one
16:18 jcamins     She's also likely to develop a tomato allergy as she gets older.
16:18 jcamins     Ooh, tomatoes.
16:18 wahanui     tomatoes are out, as I have none.
16:18 jcamins     wahanui: untrue!
16:18 wahanui     jcamins: excuse me?
16:18 jcamins     I have three pounds!
16:19 oleonard    wahanui: tomatoes is <reply> I have three pounds!
16:19 wahanui     OK, oleonard.
16:19 jcamins     tomatoes
16:19 wahanui     I have three pounds!
16:20 oleonard    Ah, the simple pleasures in life
16:20 jcamins     I really like the tart idea, but what do I put in it to replace the onions?
16:20 ashimema    mmm.. tomatoes.
16:21 bag         celery?  could that replace onions?
16:22 cait        garlic? :)
16:22 cait        fennel?
16:22 bag         oh fennel is a good idea cait
16:23 bag         speaking of food I think I need to go get something to nibble on
16:23 * cait      shouldn't have looked at work mail
16:23 jcamins     I think maybe celery is the best option.
16:23 cait        16 pages with 100 mails each
16:23 cait        eek
16:23 bag         yeesh that's a lot of email
16:30 cait        @wunder Konstanz
16:30 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.7°C (6:30 PM CEST on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
16:30 cait        bag: yeah... looking forward to going into work monday... :)
16:34 cait        ok, time to switch back to my other hard drive - wish me luck, i am going to have surgery on the laptop
16:36 oleonard    Good luck!
16:45 busla       just wondering about this documentation in Plack
16:46 busla       "This instructions assume that your Koha checkout is /srv/koha. If it's in some other location, you have to change /srv/koha to correct folder throughout all scripts below."
16:46 busla       my /srv folder is empty
16:46 wahanui     i already had it that way, busla.
16:46 busla       oops :-)
16:46 busla       sorry
16:46 oleonard    Ignore wahanui busla, he's a bot
16:47 oleonard    busla: Sounds like you'll have to simply replace "/srv/koha" with the actual path to Koha when you run the scripts?
16:48 oleonard    I don't know for sure since I don't know that documentation
16:48 jcamins     busla: you'll need to replace /srv with the actual location of your Koha installation.
16:48 jcamins     Probably /usr/share/koha/
16:49 jcamins     And you'll need to modify the paths a bit to make sure that your koha.psgi file points to the right directory for staff client/OPAC.
16:55 busla       ahh ok, thanks
16:55 druthb      tcohen!
16:55 wahanui     i guess tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts
16:55 druthb      home safe?
17:07 reiveune    bye
17:13 * cait      waves again - old hard drive in laptop, all good
17:17 cait        ah rangi in auckland now
17:17 cait        almost home too
17:57 tcohen      hi druthb, cait
17:57 tcohen      back at work!
17:57 cait        hi tcohen :)
17:57 cait        not yet, still tidying up :)
17:57 tcohen      (just because i wanted, had the day free)
17:57 cait        aah
17:57 cait        you were keen to get back to koha?
17:58 tcohen      indeed!
17:58 cait        :)
17:58 tcohen      i want to release 3.12.6 soon
17:58 tcohen      pre-kohacon13 days and the conference itself got me away from that tasks
17:59 tcohen      bernardo was pleased to have news from you druthb and cait
17:59 cait        :)
17:59 cait        what did you tell him? :)
18:00 tcohen      we talked a lot about how kohacon13 went
18:00 tcohen      and i told him many of you gongratulated him for his job
18:03 cait        which he does greatly :)
18:17 druthb      :)
18:46 talljoy     o/ druthb how is your car?
18:46 bag         yeah druthb that sounded pretty brutal
18:47 * oleonard  hopes the leftovers were okay
18:47 talljoy     no kidding
18:47 talljoy     mmmmm indian food
18:47 talljoy     i'm having thai food tonight.  the closest i can get to curry today
18:48 druthb      I'm on the donut still, but I'm going this afternoon to a tire shop.  we'll see how expensive it is...
18:48 oleonard    mmmmm thai curry
18:48 talljoy     panang curry
18:48 talljoy     mmmmmm
18:48 bag         still debating on what is for dinner tonight - I've got my parents coming into town
18:48 talljoy     dude stop harshing my and oleanard's thai buzz
18:48 oleonard    :D
18:49 bag         well I got the buzz too and was debating on thai for tonight
18:49 talljoy     do it!
18:49 talljoy     thai!!
18:49 bag         I'll be in thailand for christmas and can't wait to have real thai food - which I'm sure they call just plan old "food"
18:50 oleonard    That's great bag--vacation?
18:50 bag         Actually going to Hong Kong first to play baseball and then vacation in Thailand for Christmas and New Years with Sonja and Ginny
18:50 bag         can't wait to have "food" :P
18:51 talljoy     lol
18:51 talljoy     i am jealous, fo shiz
18:51 oleonard    Wow that's awesome. My wife and I went to Thailand with our oldest in summer of 2012 and really enjoyed it.
18:52 bag         oh cool I am going to ask you some questions in another month or two on where you went and all that
18:52 bag         we are just beginning to plan out where and what we want to do
18:52 talljoy     unfortunately i always picture bridget jones "edge of reason" and figure i'll end up in a woman's thai prison
18:52 talljoy     singing "like a virgin"
18:52 talljoy     smoking cigarettes
18:52 bag         talljoy: :P
18:52 talljoy     heh
18:53 talljoy     oleonard how old is your oldest?
18:53 oleonard    She's 10 now
18:53 talljoy     i have teen boys, i prefer to not be seen in public with them.
18:53 talljoy     the feeling is mutual.
18:53 talljoy     :-D
18:53 oleonard    :D
18:54 talljoy     and they smell
18:54 mtompset    greetings, #koha.
18:54 mtompset    Such loving, motherly comments, talljoy. ;)
18:54 jcamins     talljoy: didn't you say that?
18:54 jcamins     Oh, no, you said "teen boys," I just inferred.
18:55 talljoy     well, they are mine and i love them dearly.  but they are teen boys.
18:55 talljoy     nuf said
18:55 mtompset    I think I understand. :)
18:56 bag         heh
18:56 mtompset    khall: You here?
18:56 mtompset    @seen khall
18:56 huginn      mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <khall> heh, I've been working on those gummy bears!
18:56 khall       yo
18:56 druthb      I'm of a firm belief that we should nail boys in a barrel when they turn 10, with five years worth of food.  If they live to 18, they can be considered smart enough to be called "human".  If they don't, the gene pool will be protected from them.
18:56 talljoy     lol
18:56 jcamins     lol
18:56 bag         HA
18:57 jcamins     I'm not sure how well that would work.
18:57 bag         or it could work brillinatly
18:57 bag         I wouldn't be here :P
18:57 talljoy     oh, i'm sure you would have survived
18:58 druthb      :P
18:58 talljoy     you is smart
18:58 * talljoy   knows who signs her paycheck...
18:58 bag         I've fooled you then :D
18:58 talljoy     heh
18:58 mtompset    druthb: Thunderdome pre-teen boys?
18:58 mtompset    Sounds like a Lord of the Flies type experiment.
18:59 druthb      Two geeks enter, one geek leaves!
18:59 talljoy     cue suspensful music
19:01 mtompset    tcohen couldn't take the suspense. ;)
19:02 bag         nope
19:09 jcamins     cait: http://www.food.com/recipe/ice-cubes-420398
19:09 cait        hm?
19:10 cait        jcamins: thx for thinking about me
19:10 jcamins     Read the reviews.
19:10 cait        but I do know how to make ice cubes
19:10 jcamins     Actually, everyone should read the reviews.
19:10 jcamins     Errr... unless you work in an open plan office.
19:10 jcamins     In which case you should do it later.
19:14 talljoy     comments are funny!
19:14 oleonard    Don't forget the photos
19:14 talljoy     My grandma died and took the recipe with her. You are a life saver!
19:15 cait        have o sleep i guess
19:15 cait        night all
19:15 wahanui     goodnight cait. You'll be back.
19:36 mtompset    That wasn't fun.
19:36 * mtompset  grumbles about networking issues.
19:45 oleonard    Hi pianohacker
19:49 pianohacker hey oleonard.
19:49 wahanui     oleonard is probably not really here.  He said so.  He did!
19:49 pianohacker sure bot
19:51 mtompset    Greetings, pianohacker.
19:52 maximep     that ice cues recipe is the best thing.
19:53 maximep     ever. :p
19:54 jcamins     Haha- on page four someone admits to using dehydrated ice cubes.
19:54 jcamins     "The instructions are to just add water and put it in the freezer."
19:55 oleonard    Hey, a signoff from a KohaCon participant!
19:55 oleonard    Bug 10774
19:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Allow individual holds to be suspended and resumed from the OPAC
20:03 oleonard    Was there really someone from Plano at KohaCon? I someone on the contact list.
20:04 jcamins     There was a contact list?
20:06 oleonard    Yeah you didn't get one? I wonder if they ran out before you arrived?
20:07 jcamins     Probably. I'll get someone to scan it for me.
20:07 jcamins     I was the second-to-last person to arrive, after all.
20:08 jcamins     Or as Nancy for a digital copy, I suppose.
20:08 jcamins     *ask
20:08 jcamins     It's unlikely it started out in hardcopy.
20:08 * jcamins   leaves work early.
20:08 oleonard    Digital? Crazy talk.
20:12 bag         ohh bug 11096
20:12 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra
20:12 bag         I've got the perfect record in mind for that - gonna go have some fun and see what happens :)
20:13 bag         a record with 1700 items attached to it :)
20:14 oleonard    Is that a real thing, or a monstrosity someone created out of pure evil?
20:15 bag         it's a real thing oleonard
20:15 oleonard    Good lord.
20:16 bag         I got it to index when it was in the 1500 range but then after that (not sure if it was changes with zebra or koha) but I haven't had luck since it got bigger than that
20:28 pianohacker holy god
20:29 pianohacker bag: how big is that in USMARC/MARC21?
20:29 bag         pianohacker: too big :)
20:30 oleonard    See y'all later #koha
20:30 bag         actually I always felt that the leader just got too damn confused with it.  even though we've stripped the items out now.  But I'm excited to try some of these new changes
20:52 mtompset    1700 items on a single record?!
20:54 mtompset    How can you possibly have 1700 items on a single record?
20:54 mtompset    40 years of weekly magazines?
20:55 bag         pretty much - but I think it's biweekly
20:55 bag         sorry 2/wk
20:56 mtompset    Wow.
20:56 mtompset    That's a serious collection!
20:56 bag         they have more than one record with that # of high items
21:07 mtompset    By year, I suppose?
21:35 Joels68     Hello Koha community!