Time Nick Message 00:01 rangi oleonard++ #signing off all the lianza patches 00:07 cait oleonard++ 00:07 cait didn't get to see those yet 00:07 cait someone got bug numbers for me? 00:08 rangi they are all in the 11k range 00:08 rangi 110somethingsomething 00:10 oleonard I did a few and then stopped because I didn't want to jump to the top of the scoreboard for signing off on single-line patches 00:10 oleonard Whoops I did too many 00:14 dpk Does anyone now how I can change the string in a perl script to reflect an alternate DESTDIR/"configuration directory setting" per khall's recent comment on bug 11078? 00:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Failed QA , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds 00:14 dpk I have not found any good examples under misc/* 00:18 rangi oleonard: it really helps there were all a bunch of librarians learning how to be a developer in 90 seconds 00:18 rangi great feedback for them to get a mail on the same day 00:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc3469eff7f5ae2fb7ff9b57b7eb6c1d0d4bc161> / Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selec... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=acdf8df3709c0c9c3e5cf0dae463b39071dfe6d0> / Bug 11106: make label for Item types 00:40 dcook #koha: preliminary work on moving away from ISO to MARCXML can be found on tcohen's github branch 00:41 dcook marcxml_master branch at https://github.com/tomascohen/koha.git 00:41 dcook ^^ above added by tcohen himself :p 00:42 oleonard dpk: Everyone is breaking for dinner now 00:43 dpk I am about to head home. I have updated the bug with a possible path forward. 00:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #170 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=481eb9b284a55906367888045e092edc1f062a96> / Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9039c8bb74b80eb7d9e32698ec6f15a5673d7de4> 01:09 cait boo 01:09 cait :) 01:11 cait having another go and that git reject thing hopefully 01:13 gmcharlt cait++ 01:13 eythian hi cait 01:13 cait haven't found the mail yet :) pointers welcome 01:13 cait hi eythian :) 01:15 gmcharlt cait: 7791, looks like 01:15 cait thank you! 01:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1463: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1463/ 01:27 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11015: add copyright headers to some files 01:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11015 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Copyright headers are missing in some packages 01:27 cait wizzyrea: around? 01:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #1464 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 2 hr ago) 01:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bad4db6a76d719ad6ac7fec2d4c7ec87ec8aa95> 01:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #170: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/170/ 01:33 jenkins_koha * raewyn adams: Bug 11100: make label for Topics facet easily CSS selectable 01:33 jenkins_koha * Sue Tunnicliff: Bug 11107: make label for authors facet easily CSS selectable 01:33 jenkins_koha * Katherine Chisholm: Bug 11106: make label for Item types facet easily CSS selectable 01:33 jenkins_koha * Gab Hikaka: Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable 01:33 jenkins_koha * Andrew Lockett: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable 01:33 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin 01:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Label in staff client - Topics on facets not easily css selectable 01:33 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs 01:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sue.tunnicliff, Pushed to Master , Label in staff client - authors on facets not easily accessible 01:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Label item type facet in staff client 01:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable 01:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrewlockettnz, Pushed to Master , Label in Opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable 01:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11070 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin 01:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #171 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f66f34a4200593f07b596d02b880aaf456b0c3fa> 02:22 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #171: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/171/ 02:22 jenkins_koha Colin Campbell: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record 02:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11058 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Compile time warning issued by C4/Record.pm 02:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #172 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:11 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #172: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/172/ 03:11 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page 03:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11003 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , JS error on the cart page 03:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1464: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1464/ 03:23 jenkins_koha * raewyn adams: Bug 11100: make label for Topics facet easily CSS selectable 03:23 jenkins_koha * Sue Tunnicliff: Bug 11107: make label for authors facet easily CSS selectable 03:23 jenkins_koha * Katherine Chisholm: Bug 11106: make label for Item types facet easily CSS selectable 03:23 jenkins_koha * Gab Hikaka: Bug 11102: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable 03:23 jenkins_koha * Andrew Lockett: Bug 11098: fixed bug in label in opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable 03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11100 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Label in staff client - Topics on facets not easily css selectable 03:23 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11070: fix typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin 03:23 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 11070: followup to correct tabs 03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sue.tunnicliff, Pushed to Master , Label in staff client - authors on facets not easily accessible 03:23 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11058: fix compilation warning in C4::Record 03:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11106 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Label item type facet in staff client 03:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11102 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - places on facets not easily css selectable 03:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11098 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrewlockettnz, Pushed to Master , Label in Opac - topics on facets not easily css selectable 03:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11070 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in UNIMARC 115a plugin 03:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11058 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Compile time warning issued by C4/Record.pm 03:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1465 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 4 hr ago) 04:03 Oak Ahoy me hearties on a land far far away... 04:04 * jcamins has made it home. 04:23 Oak oh good. 05:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1465: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1465/ 05:11 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11003: fix JS error on the staff cart page 05:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11003 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , JS error on the cart page 05:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #173 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 05:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #1466 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 6 hr ago) 05:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=814c463c24510ac0c1e7e240100833714089e86f> / Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selec... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef6185d31f454a4766194cc4d823fe0210fefd21> / Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin <http 05:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0829b1a353ae69abcf026b50a47933cb992494b> / Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5750f32519aa701cdf0cd158b6d9576e3a45f2a8> 05:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=50e25d212a0298910a5b4322b475df550985fbea> 06:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #173: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/173/ 06:21 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11002: simplify patron mandatory field validation 06:21 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin 06:21 jenkins_koha * Jonet Moore: Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable 06:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11002 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields are not translatable 06:21 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging 06:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11099 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonetem, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable 06:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10982 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging 06:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #174 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:26 Guest3091 does koha implement "did you mean this feature" in opac in it's true sense? 06:42 reiveune hello 06:42 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:54 * magnuse waves 07:09 gaetan_B hello 07:09 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B 07:10 gaetan_B hi magnuse :) 07:12 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #174: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/174/ 07:12 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop' 07:12 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization 07:12 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made 07:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , dropbox should be book drop 07:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10954 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Payment receipt does not display the payment made 07:22 samueld hello everybody 07:23 Oak hello samueld 07:23 Oak magnuse 07:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1466: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1466/ 07:25 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11002: simplify patron mandatory field validation 07:25 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11002: (follow-up) use jQuery validator plugin 07:25 jenkins_koha * Jonet Moore: Bug 11099: fixed bug in Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable 07:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11002 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Mandatory fields are not translatable 07:25 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 10982: fix link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging 07:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11099 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonetem, Pushed to Master , Label in Staff Client - series on facets not easily css selectable 07:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10982 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Link to IFLA UNIMARC documentation in Cataloging 07:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #1467 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 8 hr ago) 07:30 magnuse Oak 08:23 redbeard45 Just looking at using Koha but not as Library Management Software but for the managment of paper and media resources for specialist teachers who are located in 5 different offices around a city. The resources are stored in each location and often a suitable resource is in another location but no one expect those in that specific location. So I am looking for an online booking and resource... 08:23 redbeard45 ...management tool We have an Excel spreadsheet of these resources. Is it possible to import this into Koha. Cheers and thanks 08:34 Keithsptr Hello 08:34 Keithsptr I have a small problem 08:35 Keithsptr can you tell me how I can connect to the back-end of Koha 08:35 Keithsptr where the cataloging is done 08:36 Keithsptr is somebody there? 08:36 Keithsptr I am able to connect to the front end where the user can change personal data 08:36 Keithsptr etc 08:36 redbeard45 Only me but no one is answering my question either! 08:37 Keithsptr ohh ok 08:49 magnuse Keithsptr: sorry for the quiet channel - a lot of the people who are usually here are at a conference in reno, usa and they are sleeping now :-) 08:59 Keithsptr ok no problem 09:00 Keithsptr can you help me 09:00 Keithsptr magnuse 09:00 magnuse i can try 09:00 magnuse how did you install koha? 09:00 magnuse from packages or git or tarball? 09:00 Keithsptr on a local ubuntu laptop 09:01 magnuse ok 09:01 magnuse which instructions did you follow 09:01 magnuse ? 09:01 Keithsptr the one with makefile.PL 09:01 Keithsptr I think it was tarball 09:01 magnuse ok 09:02 Keithsptr installation was successfull 09:02 magnuse hm, it's been a while since i did that 09:02 Keithsptr the problem that I have is that I cannot access the back end 09:02 Keithsptr where the cataloging is done 09:02 magnuse try to open /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/... 09:02 magnuse you need to figure out what you need to use instead of ... 09:03 magnuse there should be a file there with the apache config for your koha installation 09:03 magnuse where do you access the public part of koha? http://localhost/ ? 09:03 Keithsptr 127.0.0.1 09:03 magnuse ok 09:03 magnuse just try 127.0.0.1:8080 09:04 Keithsptr that works on a local pc 09:04 Keithsptr what I want is to be able to access it externally 09:05 magnuse ah 09:05 magnuse then it's more of a general networking problem than a koha problem 09:05 magnuse i'm not very good at networking, i'm afraid 09:06 Keithsptr me too. I don't know anything about networking 09:08 mtj Keithsptr, use your koha system's ip number, not 127.0.0.1 09:08 mtj http://1.2.3.4:8080, etc... 09:08 Keithsptr meaning? 09:09 Keithsptr but that gives me the external part 09:09 Keithsptr not where the cataloging is to be done 09:10 mtj cataloguing is done from the 'admin' interface 09:10 mtj access your koha's admin interface from port 8080 09:10 Keithsptr yes and that is what I want 09:11 mtj well, thats how you do it ;) 09:11 Keithsptr it is not working 09:12 mtj so, what do you get on port 8080? 09:12 Keithsptr nothing 09:13 mtj ok, try using these installation instructions, here -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze 09:14 Keithsptr that didn't work for me... that is why I used makefile.PL 09:15 mtj use the packages 09:16 mtj if you get stuck using the packages, just hop on #irc and ask for help 09:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1467: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1467/ 09:16 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10785: change 'Dropbox' labels to 'Book drop' 09:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10785: (follow-up) fix one last bit of capitalization 09:16 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10954: ensure that payment receipt displays the payment made 09:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Master , dropbox should be book drop 09:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10954 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Payment receipt does not display the payment made 09:16 Keithsptr it's no use re-install it again 09:16 Keithsptr it is a network issue 09:17 mtj ah, ok... 09:20 Keithsptr so you don't know 09:20 Keithsptr you never had this issue 09:20 Keithsptr so how do you currently log in the cataloging part 09:22 mtj if you are new to koha, use the debian packages 09:24 mtj if you insist on installing koha with a tar file, i recommend following these instructions -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_tarball 09:25 mtj ...look out for the 'Configure and Start Apache' section 09:25 Keithsptr it is already installed 09:25 Keithsptr and works fine 09:25 Keithsptr the problem is that I want the users to access the admin externally 09:28 mtj hmmm.... 09:33 mtj yeah, try a package install first 09:47 Keithsptr meaning 09:51 Keithsptr ?? 10:00 mtj Keithsptr, meaning…install koha with the 'package' installation method 10:01 mtj if you get stuck, just hop on #irc and ask for help 10:05 Oak Keithsptr, because if you install from the package, it help us to resolve issues you may be facing easily... because a) it narrows down the problem from us b) most of us set-up Koha that way 10:06 Oak one the other hand, with the tarball method, we can't do guesswork about which of the hundreds of things you may have done wrong. 10:08 keithsptr_ sorry have logged 10:08 keithsptr_ from another pc 10:09 keithsptr_ so the result is that it is not possible to get the user to log in to the admin from the outside 10:09 keithsptr_ ? 10:09 * Oak goes to watch birds on trees 10:11 keithsptr_ @oak 10:11 huginn keithsptr_: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 10:11 keithsptr_ tks 10:11 keithsptr_ @oak IT IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE INSTALLATON 10:11 huginn keithsptr_: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 10:11 keithsptr_ locally it worked 10:12 keithsptr_ I just want to access it externally 10:19 mtj the truth is… most people (myself included) wont help you if you install koha using a tar file, instead of using the packages 10:20 mtj …as Oak said, its too difficult to troubleshoot 10:20 keithsptr_ and as I said.. all works 10:21 keithsptr_ and externally it workd (the front end site) 10:21 keithsptr_ so it is not a problem with how I installed it 10:21 keithsptr_ it is a problem with network issu 10:21 keithsptr_ issue 10:22 mtj you have an apache config problem 10:22 keithsptr_ and how can I solve it 10:22 keithsptr_ ?? 10:23 mtj you can solve it, by installing koha using the 'packages' method 10:24 mtj …which does the apache config 'automagically' 10:25 mtj your problem is a very common problem 10:25 mtj the solution is to use the packages 10:26 keithsptr_ ok tks 10:26 keithsptr_ thanks 10:27 mtj fwiw, people in USA will be waking up soon - they might help your with your apache config problem 10:27 mtj …or they might tell you to use the packages 10:28 keithsptr_ ok I will wait a bit 10:44 mtj keithsptr_, ok, no probs :) 10:52 keithsptr_ it worked now 10:52 keithsptr_ I have changed the config file 10:53 keithsptr_ manually 10:56 mtj cool, well done 10:57 mtj if you have problems manually setting up your zebra and cron stuff… use the packages ;) 11:11 keithsptr_ tks 11:11 keithsptr_ :) 12:41 gmcharlt @quote random 12:41 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one does not bask in the Potomac River basin...you melt or swelter or something, but you don't bask. :P" (added by jwagner at 01:17 PM, January 24, 2011) 12:52 talljoy hi druthb you made it home in good time? 12:53 druthb yep 12:53 druthb got home about midnight 12:53 talljoy ouch 12:53 druthb on-time landing at BPT at 9:30, then the drive... 12:53 magnuse druthb! 12:53 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 12:54 druthb magnuse! 12:54 wahanui i heard magnuse was a Norwegian giant. 12:54 talljoy heh 12:54 * magnuse waves to talljoy 12:54 talljoy hi magnuse! 12:57 magnuse :-) 12:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb75b239215714416c43282b573ae653e55e29a8> 12:58 * druthb is a tired geek. 12:59 talljoy i'm sure. i'm exhausted and i got home at 6pm 13:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #175 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:01 jcamins We got in around 11:30. 13:02 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:05 magnuse hiya mtompset and jcamins 13:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1468 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 13 hr ago) 13:05 mtompset Greetings, magnuse. 13:06 mtompset If I signed something off, and it needs a rebase, can I rebase and squash patches without having to get it signed off again? 13:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d910cee85c30cd3981662fd8ae6483d3e4749e0e> / Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=480841965e08a6cf5ddf7086cc9a210223cffecb> 13:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #175: UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/175/ 13:50 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission 13:50 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt 13:50 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive 13:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11097 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission 13:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt 14:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #176 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 7 hr 39 min ago) 14:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb0e1e6bba31a2e741ed9b074ba7e1c9dd0c6083> / Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=904f9b06e05448c341fb407ecaac8ef237578242> / Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aq 14:39 mtompset BUG! 14:40 mtompset 10636 14:40 mtompset bug 10636 14:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10636 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , patronimage should have borrowernumber as PK, not cardnumber 14:40 mtompset Missing SetVersion call in updatedatabase.pl 14:41 mtompset Only caught that, because I had to rebase a patch I'm working on. 14:42 mtompset gmcharlt, do you see that? 14:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #380 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #380: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/380/ 14:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add merging authorities 14:49 gmcharlt mtompset: which DBrev? 14:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #176: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/176/ 14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: Order search (search and UI enhancements) 14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) don't display deleted orders in late orders search result 14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) merge parent ordernumber and ordernumber columns in display 14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) add unit tests for 3 acq routines 14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) miscellaneous changes 14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) use understandable codes rather than magic numbers for orderstatus 14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) fix case where partial status was not correctly set 14:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) multiple QA fixes 14:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: DBRev 3.13.00.032 14:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aqorders 14:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in 14:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade 14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5336 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Acq history search 14:50 gmcharlt 3.13.00.030 can fail, and it doesn't call SetVersion if it does 14:51 mtompset AH! Didn't see it. 14:52 mtompset Guess I need more caffeine. :) 14:52 gmcharlt hmm, though DBRrevs after that will be able to call their SetVersion() 14:52 mtompset True, which could cause a problem updating later. 14:54 gmcharlt yeah, I'll be curious to see how often that happens in the real world 14:55 gmcharlt we could add something that warns on the staff home page or something if there's changes left to do for 030 (after data cleanup0 14:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1468: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1468/ 14:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11097 - Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission 14:57 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: add ability to change fund on receipt 14:57 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10403: Show inactive but unlocked budgets on orderreceive 14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11097 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide duplicate patron button if logged in user lacks CAN_user_borrowers permission 14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt 14:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #1469 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 15 hr ago) 15:01 mtompset Wasn't there some force upgrade option to reattempt previous updates somewhere? 15:02 mtompset I thought I saw some kind of bug report for that enhancement. 15:04 oleonard Hi #koha 15:04 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. :) 15:16 oleonard When I started reading the comments on Bug 8236 I didn't realize I should have brought food and water with me. 15:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Prevent renewing if overdue or restriction 15:22 druthb hi, oleonard! :) 15:22 * druthb wriggles happily 15:24 oleonard Hi druthb, I'm sorry I didn't get to say goodbye to you! 15:24 * oleonard should have been paying better attention 15:24 oleonard Smooth travels I hope? 15:25 druthb reasonably smooth, yes. Long. 15:25 * oleonard leaves in the morning :( 15:25 oleonard :( 15:26 oleonard :( 15:28 oleonard bag and I are talking about trying to put together an American hackfest next year some time in my neck of the woods 15:29 oleonard Maybe even try to do a joint Koha/Evergreen hackfest since we have Evergreen libraries in our area 15:29 nengard hackfesters want easy patches to sign off on to pad their numbers? :) bug 10671 15:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update 15:29 nengard more coming 15:31 * sophie_m pause, je repasse plus tard 15:31 sophie_m oups 15:32 oleonard nengard: Did some KohaCon discussions lead to these updates or are they routine? 15:32 nengard routine 15:32 nengard i do them before every release 15:33 nengard just thought i should do them with a bunch of hackers in one room looking to teach newbies how to sign off :) 15:33 nengard since they're tiny string patches 15:34 oleonard Not sure how many newbies we have left today, but we'll have a few 15:34 nengard yeah i was busy moving the other days :( 16:18 gaetan_B hey there 16:18 gaetan_B i know some people have tried putting koha on a raspberry pi 16:18 gaetan_B but i think they had performance issues 16:18 gaetan_B on a scale that actually stopped them from going further 16:19 gaetan_B anyone tried that here and could tell me more ? 16:19 jcamins gaetan_B: not really. 16:19 jcamins I mean, yeah, it's slow, but for my home library, it's fast enough. 16:19 jcamins Well, it was until I stopped using Koha for my home library. :D 16:19 gaetan_B jcamins: ahah, that's very interesting :) 16:19 gaetan_B oh what do you use now then ? 16:20 jcamins Now it's infinitely slow, because it's not running at all. 16:20 gaetan_B evergreen ? :p 16:20 jcamins Biblionarrator. 16:20 jcamins lol 16:20 jcamins I'm using a Raspberry Pi! 16:20 jcamins Evergreen barely runs on a VM for me. 16:20 * gaetan_B was joking 16:21 gaetan_B i see you created a whole new ils ! 16:21 jcamins Nope- catalogue/discovery layer. 16:21 gaetan_B i'll have to have a look at this 16:21 gaetan_B ok 16:21 jcamins You have to use it with Koha (or another ILS) if you want to do circulation. 16:22 jcamins Since I don't circulate my dictionaries, that's not a problem for me. 16:22 gaetan_B the reason i am asking is i was dreaming of a "koha box" that could be shipped to developping countries for setting up a library quickly 16:22 gaetan_B ah ok 16:22 jcamins Yeah, drojf was talking about that too. 16:22 gaetan_B it looks pretty nice 16:22 jcamins raspberry pi? 16:22 wahanui Raspberry Pi embedded computers run Koha just fine. :) See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_a_Raspberry_Pi 16:22 jcamins Woohoo! 16:22 gaetan_B yes this makes a lot of sense now that i think ok it 16:22 jcamins wahanui does know. 16:22 wahanui jcamins: huh? 16:23 tcohen morning #koha ! 16:23 jcamins I think the instructions say you have to use 3.6, but I actually ran 3.12. 16:24 jcamins It's not blazing fast, but it works. 16:25 BobB good morning #koha 16:25 oleonard Good morning BobB 16:26 oleonard Not often I can say good morning to BobB and have it be time zone correct for both of us 16:26 nengard hiya BobB 16:26 BobB :) 16:26 nengard jcamins i was testing the authority merge yesterday and i'm not seeing it work - i merge with no errors and then i rebuilt the search and the 2 merged records are still listed as 2 on the results 16:26 nengard is there a step i'm missing 16:26 nengard i faked the manual update for now :) 16:26 jcamins nengard: I don't think so. It always just worked for me. 16:27 nengard can you confirm for me the command to rebuild the authorities index 16:27 nengard that might be what i'm doing wrong ;) 16:27 jcamins rebuild_zebra.pl -a -z -x 16:27 jcamins Or -a -r -x 16:27 jcamins -b is optional, since that's just for bibs. 16:28 nengard k let me see what i was running 16:29 jcamins Of course, if you did it without the -z or -r right after the merge, you'll now have to do -a -r -x. 16:29 * cait waves 16:30 nengard i did misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r -v 16:31 jcamins I'm not sure why it's not working for you then. 16:32 nengard hmmm 16:32 nengard i want to dump my crap authority file and start over 16:32 nengard i have hundreds of dups 16:33 nengard all linked to 1 bib record 16:33 gaetan_B thanks jcamins that's really helpful ! 16:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #381 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #381: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/381/ 16:33 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: change dropbox to book drop 16:33 jcamins nengard: that shouldn't be possible. I think a new authority file might indeed be in order. 16:33 nengard it was very possible years ago 16:34 nengard i just keep upgrading my system 16:34 nengard :) 16:34 nengard would a new file just mean dumping the old tables and starting over? wouldn't there still be links left to the bibs? 16:35 jcamins So, the answer to your question is "if your authority file isn't corrupted, the cron job or a full rebuild will take care of the indexing. If the authority file is corrupted, you might have a problem." 16:35 nengard heh 16:35 jcamins Hmm... what I'd probably do is delete all the authorities, reindex Zebra so that you get no results, run link_bibs_to_authorities, and *then* reload authorities. 16:35 nengard well obviously it's corrupted cause the full rebuild isn't fixing it 16:36 nengard k 16:36 nengard can't hurt 16:36 nengard it's a test system after all 16:43 tcohen slef 16:43 tcohen around? 16:46 oleonard @seen slef 16:46 huginn oleonard: slef was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, 35 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <slef> #info MJ Ray, software.coop (England) 16:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1469: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1469/ 16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: Order search (search and UI enhancements) 16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) don't display deleted orders in late orders search result 16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) merge parent ordernumber and ordernumber columns in display 16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) add unit tests for 3 acq routines 16:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5336 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Acq history search 16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) miscellaneous changes 16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) use understandable codes rather than magic numbers for orderstatus 16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) fix case where partial status was not correctly set 16:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5336: (follow-up) multiple QA fixes 16:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: DBRev 3.13.00.032 16:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class for aqorders 16:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) remove unused new parameter to NewOrder() that slipped in 16:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5336: (follow-up) improve setting 'partial' order status during upgrade 16:47 jcamins What do you call the accent in the word façade? 16:48 jcamins I've always called it a "cedilla," but that sounds Spanish. 16:48 gmcharlt jcamins: that's what I've always called it too 16:48 jcamins Ah, in French they call it cédille. 16:48 gmcharlt cognates FTW 17:22 reiveune bye 17:23 dpk khall: yt? 17:25 khall yo 17:44 nengard jcamins i deleted my authorities, ran the linker and it created a ton of authorities each with only 1 bib attached ... just fyi 17:48 jcamins nengard: that's because you have the AutoGenerateAuthorities (or something like that) syspref turned on. 17:48 * jcamins doesn't use that, and forgets that other people do. 17:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #382 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #382: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/382/ 17:48 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add ConfirmFutureHolds 17:49 nengard AutoCreateAuthorities = generate and BiblioAddsAuthorities = allow 17:49 nengard which are you saying i shouldn't have? 17:49 jcamins AutoCreateAuthorities is the one I leave off. 17:49 nengard but it says 'When editing records, generate authority records that are missing' ... these aren't missing they are there 17:49 nengard so it sounds to me like a bug 17:49 nengard it's creating authorities where it shouldn't 17:49 jcamins No it's not. 17:49 jcamins It's doing exactly what it's supposed to. 17:50 jcamins Well- it is doing exactly what it was designed to do. 17:50 nengard so the description isn't right 17:50 jcamins No, the description reflects what happened. 17:50 jcamins You had no authorities. 17:50 jcamins You ran the linker script. 17:51 jcamins Every single heading was missing an authority, so it generated one for each (because there's no reindexing in between records). 17:51 nengard hmmmm 17:51 nengard so the manual needs a warning on that explaining that that's what will happen 17:51 nengard and basically it should be off before you run the linker the first time 17:51 jcamins Right. 17:51 nengard and then if you want it on you should turn it on after a reindex 17:51 jcamins That's a good point. 17:51 nengard okay - i'm going to delete my authorities again :) 17:52 jcamins The linker script isn't really intended for generating authorities, which is why I didn't think to put in documentation for how to use it to do so (well, that and the fact that it can't really be used for authority generation). 18:18 tcohen hi jcamins 18:19 jcamins Hello. 18:25 jcamins Ooh! Mate! 18:25 jcamins tcohen: what temperature should the water be for mate? 18:27 jcamins Oh, goodness. 18:27 jcamins I didn't realize mate was so complicated to prepare. 18:29 tcohen :-D 18:32 jcamins Ah-ha. Now I understand the straw. :) 18:36 jcamins Mmmm. 18:36 jcamins That's delicious! 18:36 jcamins tcohen++ 18:41 tcohen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfGN8-bPjU0 18:46 jcamins Not at all what I expected, somehow. 18:47 jcamins It tastes very different from tea. 18:49 jcamins And apparently I used the wrong temperature of water. It should be 167 degrees. 18:50 tcohen did u like it? 18:50 jcamins Yup. :) 18:50 jcamins I see why you're drinking it all the time. 18:51 tcohen well, we're now drinking an excellent french wine :-P 18:52 * jcamins would drink excellent French wine if it were available to him, but mate will have to do. 18:53 tcohen they are complimentary 18:53 tcohen in life i mean :-P 19:05 oleonard What is this mate of which you speak? 19:06 jcamins oleonard: yerba mate. 19:07 oleonard And to you too kind sir. 19:07 * druthb waves to nengard and talljoy. 19:07 talljoy o/ druthb 19:08 talljoy yummy lunch. 19:08 druthb :) the buffet here was nice today, too. 19:08 talljoy i had greek buffet. ( i missed the buffet at atlantis_ 19:12 nengard hi 19:12 wahanui salut, nengard 19:42 talljoy how did i miss the yerba mate? 19:42 * talljoy pouts 19:58 dpk khall: back from lunch. Did you see my annotation on 11078? 20:21 * magnuse wishes the remaining hackfest crew a productive after lunch session 20:21 Dyrcona Yay! Hackfest! 20:22 haxan hi 20:22 haxan I deleted the branches FRanklin, Union, Springfield, etc. but Miday is associated to the Admin patron 20:23 haxan Can I delete this admin patron? 20:23 haxan koha version 3.8 20:23 haxan and then delete midawy barnch? 20:23 haxan midway branch? 20:23 * haxan slaps rangi around a bit with a large fishbot 20:24 haxan rangi? 20:24 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 20:24 haxan the "admin" patron is associated to midway} 20:26 haxan "hi? 20:28 harry need some help with koha installation using packages 20:28 harry on ubuntu 20:29 harry need some help woth the koha installation on ubuntu via packages 20:29 harry would appreciate any help 20:30 talljoy hi harry - i'm not an expert on that and some folks are at the kohacon conference and not reliably in channel today 20:30 talljoy can you start with a specific error you are encountering? 20:31 harry sure 20:31 harry i am ending up with the maintenance page when using lynx to configure 20:33 jcamins You'll need to set up DNS, so that the web server can tell you want the staff client and not the OPAC. 20:34 harry can you be specific, this is the first time ever i am working on koha installation 20:34 harry i am following the instructions from http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 20:34 dpk khall: yt? 20:35 jcamins I can't at the moment, no. I'm working on other things. This isn't really a Koha thing. You're using Apache to serve both the staff client and the OPAC on the same port using virtual hosts. In order for virtual hosts to work, you have to have your system set up so that you can use the DNS names rather than IP addresses. 20:35 jcamins virtual hosts? 20:35 wahanui virtual hosts are http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html 20:35 jcamins ^^ that document might be helpful. 20:36 jcamins Whoops. 20:36 talljoy eek 20:36 jcamins Should've warned him to hold down shift. 20:36 jcamins Or control. 20:36 talljoy or thicker skin 20:36 jcamins Nah, he disappeared the moment I shared the link. 20:36 talljoy yup 20:37 Guest3156 is it a must for fresh install of os for libki server to work. i'm having difficulty in connecting to the server installed in linux mint 15 through clinet on ubuntu 12.04. 20:37 talljoy well hopefully that will give him something to chew on 20:37 jcamins He'll presumably be back once he realizes that he just left IRC. 20:46 blou hola koha# 20:47 blou trying my luck this week, although I know many are still having fun in Reno: Anyone with knowledge of Acquisitions in the room? 20:47 blou bug 11062? 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11062 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Invoice's shipment/shipping cost should be included PRE-gst tax (as an option) 20:51 blou this is not my lucky week :) 20:51 jcamins Working on acquisitions is always unlucky. 20:51 jcamins :P 20:53 blou hahahahaha, I'll remember that word of wisdom! 20:54 blou Seems to have been coded by US people, yet in the US, it varies from state to state if the shipping is taxable. I don't understand the hardcoding... 20:54 blou Or maybe i just don't understand (anything) 20:54 jcamins blou: gst is a French thing. 20:55 blou is it? I thought they would have called it VAT 20:55 jcamins You should ask paul_p when (if) he gets back from lunch. 20:55 harry__ hello all, Here is my problem why I use lynx to configure i am ending up with the maintenance page. My OPAC site is library-intra.ttcils.latech.edu and for users it is library.ttcils.latech.edu 20:55 harry__ i asked my network admin to forward both of the domain to 138.47.37.171 which is the server i am installing koha 20:55 jcamins blou: yeah, gst doesn't mean anything in the US. 20:55 harry__ i am using this server just for koha 20:56 jcamins harry__: did you check the virtual hosts in /etc/apache2/sites_available/library to make sure they have the domains spelled correctly? 20:56 * jcamins has a tradition of misspelling domains. 20:56 jcamins blou: apparently you have gst in Canada. 20:57 harry__ yes 20:57 harry__ and can i leave the ports for OPAC and users as 80 20:57 harry__ or should they be different 20:58 jcamins If your DNS is configured, they can be the same. 20:59 jcamins You restarted Apache after checking the domain names, eh? 20:59 harry__ yes right now i am restarting the server 20:59 blou jcamins: yeah, apparently, some pay that ... :) 21:00 harry__ Where is the DNS file located 21:00 jcamins harry__: your network admin should have configured it. 21:00 harry__ yes he did that 21:01 harry__ he routed both the domains to the same ip 21:01 jcamins Yeah, in that case there are no DNS configuration files for you to edit. 21:02 harry__ ok let me reinstall koha using packages i am sure i made some mistakes. 21:02 harry__ i will post the outputs after each installation step 21:03 jcamins You don't need to reinstall. 21:03 jcamins The problem is in /etc/apache2/sites_available/library 21:03 harry__ ok let me ckeck 21:03 blou harry__: i did play a lot around theses lately, but I can't really tell you the RIGHT solution. It involves playing with your koha-conf.xml, /etc/hosts (linux) and the /etc/apache2/ports.conf :( 21:04 blou harry__: since you're playing with alias, monitor the log /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log 21:04 harry__ when i installed i got messages like host name cannot be resolved 21:05 blou jcamins: just figured that file was created by BibLibre, not Bywaters like I (thought i) originally saw. 21:05 harry__ even when i restarted apache 21:05 harry__ is that somehting normal 21:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1470 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 21 hr ago) 21:05 jcamins harry__: I've seen that before on working systems. 21:06 harry__ ok just a sec 21:06 blou I'll bug mister paul_p tomorrow, maybe THEN he'll be back from lunch 21:06 * blou wishes he was in Reno 21:06 jcamins blou: tomorrow he'll be traveling, I think. 21:07 jcamins Today's the last day of the hackfest. 21:07 blou ok 21:07 blou I'm in no rush, I'll give him some time to recover (major jet lag). Thanks again for the direction 21:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: update 3.14 release notes for second alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c219d3dd83e6eb0ef9eb84b02266ab618eade8b> / Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=716eaecc6c35b0491ba248ddba27273181f48856> / Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h= 21:13 harry__ echo deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/koha.list 21:13 harry__ is that command still the same 21:13 harry__ for installing on ubuntu 12.04 21:13 harry__ cause when i upgraded ub ubuntu it said failed to obtain from that source error 404 21:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #177 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 14 hr ago) 21:19 eythian harry__: it should still work 21:19 eythian harry__: what exactly is the error? 21:19 eythian there might have been a typo in the line when you entered it. 21:20 eythian jcamins: gst is not just a french thing, NZ has it too 21:21 redbeard45 Wanting to know if I can use Koha to manage book and media resources for 5 different offices with about 6 people in each spread around a city 21:21 eythian redbeard45: short answer is yes 21:21 eythian (there isn't really a longer answer :) 21:21 redbeard45 Currently no database of resources. They have been recorded onto an Excel spreadsheet 21:22 redbeard45 I just want on online database where a teacher in one office can look up the resources on a topic and find out what there is in the group as a whole - books, DVDs, software, etc 21:23 eythian redbeard45: yep, it'll do the job just fine 21:24 redbeard45 So I just need to setup a computer somewhere with the admin software, get some hosting established and go from there? I can import resources from Excel file okay? Might need some massaging depending on fields used? 21:25 eythian redbeard45: there's not really any admin software, you just need to set it up on a server and then everything works over a web browser. 21:25 jcamins redbeard45: Koha's web-based so you'll just need a server to put it on. 21:25 jcamins eythian: huh. Learn something new every day. 21:25 eythian You can't import spreadsheets directly, but there are tools to convert them with a bit of work. 21:25 eythian jcamins: also Australia. 21:25 jcamins redbeard45: you'll need to convert the data from Excel into MARC, since Koha uses MARC records. 21:26 redbeard45 Best place to find resources to get me on my way? 21:26 jcamins wiki? 21:26 wahanui somebody said wiki was http://wiki.koha-community.org 21:26 jcamins manual? 21:26 wahanui manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 21:26 jcamins marc? 21:26 wahanui marc is the standard that isn't 21:26 jcamins marc? 21:26 wahanui http://marc-must-die.info 21:26 jcamins marc? 21:26 wahanui marc is the standard that isn't 21:26 jcamins bibformats? 21:26 jcamins bib formats? 21:26 jcamins marc documentation? 21:26 eythian wahanui: literal marc 21:26 wahanui eythian: marc =is= the standard that isn't|<reply>http://marc-must-die.info|<reply>The MARC specs live at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ - abandon hope all ye who enter here. 21:26 * Dyrcona hands redbeard45 a lollipop. 21:27 redbeard45 Thanks 21:27 eythian redbeard45: those places, and here. 21:27 eythian mailing list? 21:27 wahanui mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 21:27 eythian also that 21:27 wahanui somebody said also that was a giant undertaking 21:42 harry__ DOMAIN=".myDNSname.org" # Change this to be your domain. INTRAPORT="80" # TCP listening port for the administration interface INTRAPREFIX="" INTRASUFFIX="-intra" DEFAULTSQL="" OPACPORT="80" # TCP listening port for the users' interface OPACPREFIX="" OPACSUFFIX="" ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT="marc21" # Possible values are 'marc21', 'normarc' and 'unimarc' ZEBRA_LANGUAGE="en" 21:42 eythian paste? 21:42 wahanui paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org 21:42 harry__ my domains are library-intra.ttcils.latech.edu and library.ttcils,latech.edu 21:42 eythian harry__: use that rather than pasting things here 21:42 harry__ ok 21:43 harry__ i need help to fill those 21:43 eythian anyway, that looks fairly sane, though really what matters is what ends up in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/instancename 21:43 eythian those defaults are pretty OK 21:43 harry__ i would use the instance name library 21:44 eythian yep 21:44 redbeard45 Anyone got suggestions for hosting in New Zealand 21:44 harry__ .ttcils.latech.edu is my domain right 21:44 jcamins Except change .myDNSname.org to .ttcils.latech.edu 21:44 harry__ ok ill do it 21:44 eythian redbeard45: wheresmyserver.co.nz (disclaimer: a friend of mine is part owner) 21:45 redbeard45 Thanks! 21:46 dpk khall? 21:47 dpk khall: yt? 21:47 harry__ so do i need to give aroot password for mysql installation 21:47 oleonard khall is now travelling home dpk 21:47 dpk Sigh. 21:47 harry__ for the root user 21:47 dpk no joy for my bugs. 21:49 eythian harry__: no 21:49 eythian I mean, you should set one 21:49 eythian and write it down somewhere safe, but no part of the koha process requires it. 21:50 harry__ ok 21:52 jcamins dpk: if this is about the rebuild_zebra.pl script, you can't rewrite the rebuild_zebra.pl script as part of the install process. What you'll need to do is get the lock directory from koha-conf.xml using C4::Context->config('somevariablethatgivesyouthedirectoryyouneed') 21:53 harry__ when i used sudo service apache2 restart it gave an error make_sock: could not bind to address0.0.0.0:80 21:53 harry__ no listening sockets available, shutting down 21:53 eythian harry__: that implies you have another webserver running on that machine. 21:53 harry__ action 'start' failed 21:54 harry__ its a clean install and i did not install any other webserver 21:55 eythian you have something else listening on port 80 most likely. 21:55 dpk jcamins: We currently don't specify the RUN_DIR anywhere, but I could either infer it from LOG_DIR (sort of ugly) or explicityly generate it based on $(DESTDIR)/var/run and put it into koha-conf.xml, then use C4::Context as you mention. I already use that to get the db name 21:55 eythian maybe you somehow have a stray apache process that didn't die. 21:55 jcamins dpk: I'd go with the latter. 21:55 harry__ how to kill that process 21:56 jcamins dpk: rewrite-config.pl is the script that processes koha-conf.xml. 21:57 dpk The other bug was 6435 which I think is still awaiting QA. 21:57 jcamins bug 6435 21:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, dpk, Signed Off , [ENH] Added daemon mode parameters to rebuild_zebra.pl 21:57 jcamins No opinion there. 21:57 jcamins I should go pick up our veggies. 21:58 eythian harry__: you have to find it first. sudo netstat -lp --inet should get you started 21:59 jcamins I always forget about -p 22:01 eythian probably also worth adding a -n to stop it trying to resolve things when it doesn't need to. 22:02 harry__ eythian: pid/program name 32197/mysqld(state listen)(local address : localhost:mysql) , 30696/apache2 ( listen, local address: *:http) , 784/dhclient3 22:02 eythian yeah, you have apache2 still running 22:02 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #177: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/177/ 22:02 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: Add renewal script 22:02 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix minor template issues 22:02 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues 22:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10493 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add renewal script 22:02 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning 22:02 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: update 3.14 release notes for second alpha 22:02 harry__ so hopw to kill it 22:02 jcamins harry__: please use paste.koha-community.org for pasting. 22:02 harry__ ok 22:02 eythian just kill it. with the kill command. 22:03 harry__ sorry 22:05 harry__ it worked 22:10 harry__ does this ip 127.0.0.1 should be the servers static ip which is in /etc/hosts 22:11 harry__ i mean should i replace it with the servers static ip 22:11 jcamins No, you need to use the DNS you just set up. 22:12 jcamins Well, that your network admin set up. 22:12 harry__ ok 22:12 eythian I'd leave /etc/hosts alone 22:12 eythian given you're doing real DNS 22:12 harry__ so do i need to add the two dns here to the file 22:12 harry__ so i can leave the file as it is 22:13 harry__ ? 22:13 harry__ ok 22:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1470: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1470/ 22:53 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: Add renewal script 22:53 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix minor template issues 22:53 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix various QA issues 22:53 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10493: (follow-up) fix unitialized variable warning 22:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10493 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add renewal script 22:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1471 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 23 hr ago) 23:02 dcook marc-- 23:12 jcamins marc-- # so true 23:16 eythian marc++ # it can't help its genetics! 23:18 jcamins dcook: when you tested in yaz-client, did you change how you were retrieving the record? 23:18 jcamins The reason for the patch is that it is impossible to retrieve records from Zebra using usmarc, which is what you appear to have been using. 23:18 jcamins It looks like there is *also* a bug where Koha can't save massive records. 23:19 jcamins (that you reported in a comment) 23:20 dcook Nopes. That was with form xml 23:20 dcook And elements marcxml 23:20 jcamins Okay. 23:20 jcamins So it looks like it's also impossible to save records in Koha. 23:20 dcook Impossible to save big records with an accurate leader, yep 23:21 jcamins Right. 23:21 jcamins paul_p: Jared is not working on faceting in Zebra. 23:21 jcamins All Jared was doing was demonstrating that it could be fixed, and he is capable of it, if someone wants that work done. 23:21 paul_p jcamins OK, a lot of ppl want that work to be done ! 23:22 jcamins paul_p: enough to pay for it to be done? That's the question. 23:22 paul_p jcamins = do you mean "if someone want to fund" ? 23:22 paul_p OK ;-) 23:22 paul_p jcamins = how much ? (I could ask some french libraries) 23:22 jcamins Right. Anything I am willing to do for free, someone would like done, just because it's free. 23:22 jcamins Hm. 23:22 jcamins I'm not sure. 23:23 * jcamins will figure that out after making dinner. 23:23 paul_p jcamins = drop me an email (I'm not promizing anything !) 23:23 jcamins Of course. 23:24 paul_p jcamins (well, I promize i'll ask & try to convince ;-) ) 23:24 jcamins dcook: if gmcharlt is still there, you should ask him about the leader length. 23:24 paul_p jcamins nope, he leaves 1 hour ag 23:24 paul_p ago 23:24 paul_p s/leaves/leaved/ 23:24 jcamins left. :) 23:25 jcamins dcook: ah well, he could've told you which version of MARC::Record was needed for that to work. 23:26 paul_p jcamins oh yes, left ! I was not happy with leaved, now I understand why... 23:26 gmcharlt paul_p: the leader lenght is relevant only when serializing as ISO2709 23:27 gmcharlt IMO, that should be done only reluctantly -- i.e., only in those cases where an export specifically requires that 23:27 paul_p gmcharlt ? don't you mean jcamins ? 23:27 gmcharlt ah, no - dcook 23:27 gmcharlt sorry, paul_p 23:29 jcamins gmcharlt: I feel like the invalid leader is a bug that you've mentioned before. 23:30 jcamins Found it. 23:30 jcamins MARC::Record >=2.0.4 23:30 jcamins julian_m fixed it. 23:30 gmcharlt https://sourceforge.net/p/marcpm/code/ci/3efc45777f8e4bec1cd09beb6ab2968e5fb0e44f/ 23:31 jcamins Yeah. 23:31 gmcharlt but to be clear, that patch still results in an invalid leader 23:31 jcamins Right, but it doesn't corrupt the MARCXML. 23:31 gmcharlt just one that fails less badly 23:34 jcamins dcook: so if you install MARC::Record from CPAN, that may fix your problem. 23:41 dac Tomas is working on my laptop so I missed most of the convo. On my phone now. 23:41 jcamins dac: so if you install MARC::Record from CPAN, that may fix your problem. 23:42 jcamins (summary ^^) 23:43 dac Good summary. Tomas hand edited it to set the record length to 99999 23:43 dac I think gmcharlt said record length doesn't matter with marcxml? 23:44 dac To 23:44 gmcharlt dac: yes, only matters to ISO2709 23:44 dac Tcohen is thinking it might be a grs1 issue as well? 23:44 jcamins dac: oh, yeah, probably. 23:46 jcamins Yeah, with GRS-1, a record larger than 99999 characters can't be indexed. 23:47 dac With grs1, is it turning marcxml to marc then back? 23:47 jcamins I'm not sure it serializes to ISO2709, but it definitely is parsed as a MARC record. 23:48 jcamins And I do now remember knowing that it didn't work. 23:48 dac Gmcharlt: Yeah, I can see record length is irrelevant for reading the record, but I assume that MARC Record caps it at 99999 so that you don't get a 25 character leader? 23:48 gmcharlt dac: from the IRC logs: 23:48 gmcharlt <gmcharlt> https://sourceforge.net/p/marcpm/code/ci/3efc45777f8e4bec1cd09beb6ab2968e5fb0e44f/ 23:49 gmcharlt IOW, that is the reason to upgrade to a recent version of MARC::Record 23:51 * gmcharlt now boards an aeroplane 23:54 dac Cheers, gmcharlt 23:54 jcamins I got to experience Economy Plus seating yesterday. 23:54 jcamins It was really nice. 23:54 dac Yeah, changing the record length seemed like the best solution to Martin and I as well 23:55 dac Then Grs1 just remains a problem 23:56 jcamins Yeah, I'd forgotten about that. 23:56 dcook I wonder how we deal with that 23:56 jcamins Fix the bug for DOM, and note that it can't be repaired if you won't upgrade to DOM. 23:56 rambutan jcamins: was EP better in any way other than the obvious--more legroom? And was that enough to be worthwhile? 23:56 jcamins Just more legroom. 23:57 jcamins But a lot more legroom. 23:57 dcook jcamins: That's my thought as well but is there a way to differentiate between the two installs? 23:57 jcamins And I wouldn't pay for it. 23:57 jcamins dcook: no, but it doesn't matter. 23:57 rambutan TNX, will remember that. 23:57 dcook No? 23:57 wahanui http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/collapsing.gif 23:57 dcook I suppose not 23:57 dcook Because the behaviour will just remain constant for grs1 23:58 jcamins bshum is a valued customer, so he was in Economy Plus. 23:58 jcamins The flight was empty, so I joined him. 23:58 jcamins And they didn't notice. 23:58 dcook hehe 23:59 gmcharlt it is good to attach oneself to bshum ;) 23:59 dcook Hmm, poor phone