Time  Nick          Message
23:58 cait          ask jcamins about everything? :)
23:57 wahanui       tcohen: huh?
23:57 tcohen        wahanui: ask jcamins about search also
23:57 wahanui       ask him about serials and/or acquisitions.
23:57 tcohen        jcamins...
23:39 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1463 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 4 days 0 hr ago)
23:38 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1462: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1462/
23:38 pianohacker   bye all
23:37 dpk           OK.  I'll wait for his return
23:37 oleonard      He's here but not at his computer
23:37 dpk           Anyone in Reno know if Kyle is around?
23:35 dcook         thanks, gmcharlt
23:35 dcook         mmm cookies
23:34 dpk           khall: yt?
23:33 dcook         Ah, and installing libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl will automatically grab libdbix-class-perl anyway
23:31 gmcharlt      dcook: yep, using the wheezy packages is fine
23:19 dcook         Admittedly, I don't understand the internals of the Debian packages, so I assume a manual install is the best way to go
23:18 dcook         Wheezy is all right though?
23:17 dcook         Thanks, gmcharlt
23:16 dpk           khall: is config dir available at runtime somehow so I could concatenate what with the /var/run direcory?
23:16 * jcamins     heads off to chat with bshum.
23:15 gmcharlt      heh
23:14 tcohen        is there a adult-only #koha channel?
23:14 gmcharlt      tcohen: tell us how you /really/ feel! ;)
23:13 tcohen        yyyyyyaaayyyyy: AuthoritiesMarc::merge still works :-P
23:10 dpk           khall: quick question about the lockfile directory
23:10 jcamins       (before)
23:10 jcamins       I didn't say that.
23:08 jcamins       Oh, please mention to Martin and Paul that *all* authority searches use QueryParser when UseQueryParser is turned on.
23:08 jcamins       tcohen: it does.
23:08 tcohen        jcamins: authorities doesn't use queryparser?
23:08 gmcharlt      jcamins: dcook: squeeze has the /stated/ minimum, but we'll need to follow up on Colin's report
23:07 jcamins       I think.
23:07 jcamins       gmcharlt: Squeeze has the package, but Colin reported it having a bug.
23:07 dcook         tcohen++
23:07 dcook         Yeah, I'm on Wheezy so that should be what I checked
23:07 jcamins       tcohen: woohoo!
23:07 dcook         Ah right
23:06 tcohen        jcamins: just wanted to mention that moving from MARC::File::USMARC to MARC::File::XML already solved some nasty encoding problems ;)
23:06 gmcharlt      *has it
23:06 gmcharlt      dcook: yeah -- certainly wheezy it, I'm double checking squeeze now
23:06 jcamins       :)
23:06 jcamins       There you go then.
23:06 dcook         Hmm. He said I'd probably be fine using libdbix-class-perl and libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl
23:05 jcamins       dcook: check with gmcharlt, but I think that we may require a newer version of DBIX::Class than is available in Squeeze.
23:05 tcohen        jcamins
23:04 dcook         Manual install or a distro-upgrade type command?
23:04 dcook         I do have a Debian package install
23:04 dcook         Anyone have a suggestion on the best way to install DBIX Class?
23:03 jcamins       Wow, the connection here makes the hotel wifi seem good.
23:03 dcook         lol
23:02 wahanui       question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
23:02 jcamins       tcohen: question?
23:01 jcamins       They're going to be boarding forty minutes late. "But we'll still get you off only ten minutes late."
23:01 jcamins       Okay, this I do not believe.
23:00 * dcook       concurs
23:00 jcamins       I feel like it will take more than ten minutes to unload the plane.
22:59 jcamins       My flight from Denver is delayed ten minutes "awaiting inbound plane."
22:47 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11015 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Copyright headers are missing in some packages
22:47 jenkins_koha  Jonathan Druart: Bug 11015: add copyright headers to some files
22:47 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #169: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/169/
22:45 BobB          :)
22:44 joels68       Hello Bob :)
22:44 BobB          hi joels68  :)
22:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11086 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Koha Tools Upload Patron Images text description change
22:42 joels68       bug 11086
22:35 oleonard      I think I detect bug activity from wizzyrea's conference session
22:21 elaine        eythian Will do
22:21 eythian       elaine: you can mark it as obsolete and leave a note, that'll clear it up.
22:15 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10955 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add ability to skip deletions in zebraqueue
22:15 elaine        Would like to apologize - I was trying to add an attachment to one bug and it somehow ended up attached to the wrong one (bug 10955)
22:01 jenkins_koha  Starting build #169 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:52 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11015: add copyright headers to some files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3a55042e7cdbb241486acf3448afe70d9438550>
21:49 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1462 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 3 days 22 hr ago)
21:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10728 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , subscription-renew generates unnecessary warnings in logs
21:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10642 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Stable , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::RotatingCollections.pm
21:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10653 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Stable , UT : C4::RotatingCollections.pm needs unit tests.
21:48 jenkins_koha  * Colin Campbell: Bug 10728: fix log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl
21:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8887 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Search preferences: Strange behaviour with exact matches (default instead of custom favicon used, displays to much results)
21:48 jenkins_koha  * root: Bug 10642: fix inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::RotatingCollections.pm
21:48 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10653: (follow-up) minor tweaks to RotatingCollections tests
21:48 jenkins_koha  * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10653: add unit tests for C4::RotatingCollections.pm
21:48 jenkins_koha  * Marc Veron: Bug 8887: only display desired result when doing exact syspref search
21:48 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.8.x build #355: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/355/
21:33 wahanui       oleonard: sorry...
21:33 oleonard      wahanui: HE SAYS YOU SAY THE SWEETEST THINGS!
21:33 wahanui       eythian: what?
21:33 eythian       wahanui: you say the sweetest things
21:30 wahanui       eythian is an expert bot trainer
21:30 bag           heya eythian
21:30 eythian       hi
21:23 pianohacker   so jealous
21:14 tcohen        paul_p++
21:13 bag           lovely!!!
21:13 bag           for cheese :D
21:13 bag           paul_p++
21:11 tcohen        oleonard: call me anxious
21:10 jenkins_koha  Starting build #355 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:10 oleonard      tcohen: jcamins is probably still travelling
21:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10401 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to merge invoices
21:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10724 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Search by basket group on the parcel page
21:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10723 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , GetPendingOrders and SearchOrders can be merged
21:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11060 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: Incorrect rendering for right to left languages
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10401: Add ability to merge invoices
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10724: Pending orders: add basket group name in filters
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10723: (follow-up) add more unit tests for SearchOrders()
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10723: remove one last instance of GetPendingOrders()
21:09 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10016 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , SelfCheckTimeout not logging patron out
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10723: make SearchOrders() take into account the pending parameter
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10723: Merge GetPendingOrders and SearchOrders routines
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11060: (Bootstrap theme) fix incorrect rendering for right to left languages
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: bug 10016: munge history in SCO to discourage resubmitting user login
21:09 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10016: force zero browser-side caching of SCO pages
21:09 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1461: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1461/
21:09 oleonard      I agree about discoverability pianohacker
21:03 pianohacker   ahahahahaha
21:03 wahanui       somebody said jcamins was very, very irascible.
21:03 tcohen        jcamins?
21:03 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: update authority images
21:03 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #379: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/379/
21:03 jenkins_koha  Starting build #379 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:02 pianohacker   oleonard: Looks nice, but discoverability?
20:55 oleonard      Thinking about moving the languages from the OPAC footer. Here's what it might look like: http://www.screencast.com/t/UFhTZxKhnQ
20:37 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10401 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to merge invoices
20:37 jenkins_koha  Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10401: Add ability to merge invoices
20:37 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #168: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/168/
19:52 jenkins_koha  Starting build #168 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:51 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10724 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Search by basket group on the parcel page
19:51 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10723 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , GetPendingOrders and SearchOrders can be merged
19:51 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11060 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: Incorrect rendering for right to left languages
19:51 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10724: Pending orders: add basket group name in filters
19:51 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10723: (follow-up) add more unit tests for SearchOrders()
19:51 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10723: remove one last instance of GetPendingOrders()
19:51 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10723: make SearchOrders() take into account the pending parameter
19:51 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10723: Merge GetPendingOrders and SearchOrders routines
19:51 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11060: (Bootstrap theme) fix incorrect rendering for right to left languages
19:51 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #167: SUCCESS in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/167/
19:44 nengard       I merged 2 authorities, rebuilt the index and they're still showing as 2 authorities in the search results
19:44 nengard       so can anyone there maybe tell me if it works?
19:44 pianohacker   'allo hackers
19:43 nengard       okay
19:42 bag           nengard jcamins left for the airport
19:41 nengard       trying to document it, but can't seem to get it to work
19:41 nengard       has anyone used the new merge authorities feature?
19:38 nengard       don't know if that came through before ... jcamins around?
19:20 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10401: Add ability to merge invoices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88b46f342209b4f08748fd0e03f5a03d8708306e>
19:16 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1461 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 3 days 19 hr ago)
19:16 dcook         hey joel
19:16 * dcook       just now notices the flashing icon on his desktop :p
19:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8070 minor, P5 - low, ---, druthb, Pushed to Master , <pre> block produced by showmarc.pl really not good in RTL languages
19:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9830 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Some UNIMARC item indexes could be broken whith Queryweightfields syspref
19:16 jenkins_koha  * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8070: improve MARC preview display for RTL languages
19:16 jenkins_koha  * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9830: Fix some indexes in UNIMARC item indexing
19:16 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1460: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1460/
19:15 joel          dcook give us a wave!
19:14 joel          hi #koha
19:14 * joel        is using irc for the first time
19:13 huginn        joel: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 15.3°C (12:00 PM PDT on October 21, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Falling).
19:13 joel          @wunder reno, nv
19:10 tcohen        hi joel
19:10 joel          hi tcohen
19:10 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10724: Pending orders: add basket group name in filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=481c062fe9ee72ffc204b6ccb37a4bfe0c23cadf>
19:09 joel          Hi TCohen
19:05 jenkins_koha  Starting build #167 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10016 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , SelfCheckTimeout not logging patron out
19:05 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: bug 10016: munge history in SCO to discourage resubmitting user login
19:05 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10016: force zero browser-side caching of SCO pages
19:05 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #166: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/166/
19:00 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10723: (follow-up) add more unit tests for SearchOrders() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c4f526a86fffe21a88373f430952caca4dfc268> / Bug 10723: remove one last instance of GetPendingOrders() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdb91ea6304f238da0b468cd3ae03fded4b92023> / Bug 10723: make SearchOrders() take into account the pending parameter <http://git.koha-c
18:51 reiveune      bye
18:35 rangi         awesome
18:34 jcamins       None.
18:34 jcamins       I like to have a bit over an hour of buffer time, but I basically walked straight through security, and just spent most of my time trying to read the sign telling me what gate to go to.
18:33 rangi         no queues?
18:33 jcamins       Wow, I didn't need to arrive so early.
18:30 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11060: (Bootstrap theme) fix incorrect rendering for right to left languages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d7d3085ecfa9d989dc039a895e83a69b00f42a9>
18:24 huginn        04Bug 7684: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , inventory :  datatable fix actions etc.
18:24 paul_p        khall would you mind QAing http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7684 ?
18:18 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: add patron lists
18:18 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #378: SUCCESS in 21 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/378/
18:18 jenkins_koha  Starting build #378 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:16 jenkins_koha  Starting build #166 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:11 rangi         thanks gmcharlt
18:06 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: bug 10016: munge history in SCO to discourage resubmitting user login <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58d469ed4d6891cddf6a5ef35d21caa553dfb8ae> / Bug 10016: force zero browser-side caching of SCO pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b165794cd1875b79177f85db59be42a9708554a>
18:04 gmcharlt      rangi: seems reasonable to me
17:58 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4809 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Lost & Paid For doesn't record payment
17:58 rangi         can i get some other quick eyes on my idea for bug 4809
17:57 drnoe         larryb, talljoy, edveal, and other interested parties, I have no thoughts to share on the matter except what edveal says, who is sitting next to me
17:55 edveal        larryb or talljoy can I get load20 Mono upgraded to 3.12 so they will be trained on the same version they are going live on?
17:45 elaine        Gotcha - I recall using something similar called term talk?  a long time ago. - It helps to have the sound turned on
17:44 * oleonard    wonders if elaine's IRC client does that
17:44 oleonard      So even if you know someone's name it's better to use their nickname
17:44 oleonard      Something to know about IRC clients, if you use someone's IRC handle their client will often beep or something to catch their attention
17:43 elaine        Hello Owen!
17:43 oleonard      Hi elaine!
17:43 dpk           Yes!
17:43 elaine        did the /nick work?
17:41 oleonard      We hear you miscellaneous :)
17:40 miscellaneous Testing, testing - Elaine
17:40 * oleonard    slips wahanui a twenty
17:39 oleonard      You have to bribe the bouncer dpk
17:37 * dpk         trying to help Elaine get into the IRC channel...
17:26 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1460 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 3 days 18 hr ago)
17:26 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , C4::Biblio exports non-existent subroutines
17:26 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10908 blocker, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Fix broken auth_by_bind LDAP mode
17:26 jenkins_koha  * Colin Campbell: Bug 11037: remove non-existent routines from Biblio's @EXPORT
17:26 jenkins_koha  * Robin Sheat: Bug 10908: restore docs on principal_name LDAP option
17:26 jenkins_koha  * Robin Sheat: Bug 10908: restore non-anonymous auth_by_bind LDAP options
17:26 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1459: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1459/
17:18 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: update opacthemes
17:18 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #377: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/377/
17:18 jenkins_koha  Starting build #377 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:18 BobB_         good morning #koha
17:10 oleonard      Hi miscellaneous
17:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8070 minor, P5 - low, ---, druthb, Pushed to Master , <pre> block produced by showmarc.pl really not good in RTL languages
17:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9830 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Some UNIMARC item indexes could be broken whith Queryweightfields syspref
17:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , C4::Biblio exports non-existent subroutines
17:08 jenkins_koha  * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8070: improve MARC preview display for RTL languages
17:08 jenkins_koha  * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9830: Fix some indexes in UNIMARC item indexing
17:08 jenkins_koha  * Colin Campbell: Bug 11037: remove non-existent routines from Biblio's @EXPORT
17:08 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #165: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/165/
16:46 oleonard      Hi #koha
16:37 * cait        waves
16:20 jenkins_koha  Starting build #165 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:19 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10908 blocker, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Fix broken auth_by_bind LDAP mode
16:19 jenkins_koha  * Robin Sheat: Bug 10908: restore docs on principal_name LDAP option
16:19 jenkins_koha  * Robin Sheat: Bug 10908: restore non-anonymous auth_by_bind LDAP options
16:19 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #164: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/164/
16:13 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8070: improve MARC preview display for RTL languages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=432f5ad400c6679186b27a00b61a3ad72ddda313>
15:48 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: update marcedit link
15:48 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #63: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/63/
15:48 jenkins_koha  Starting build #63 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:48 kivilahtio    we will need it
15:47 blou          good luck kivilahtio
15:47 kivilahtio    back at you
15:47 kivilahtio    gotta go. Thanks for the code. I'll get back to you
15:47 gmcharlt      indeed
15:46 blou          gmcharlt: probably.  Then we'd need to clarify the requirements.  New columns into the branches table instead of the sysprefs, that is not too hard
15:46 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: update marcedit link
15:46 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #21: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/21/
15:46 jenkins_koha  Starting build #21 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:44 gmcharlt      while I think a lot of consortia would be better off negotiating completely uniform policies among their member libraries ... not all can or want to do that
15:44 blou          on the various notices, you already have an increasing penalty by late day (up to a max).  I don't suppose you reach the Max by the time of the first notice, right?
15:44 gmcharlt      blou: I think there's some general value -- like it or not, there are probably some other consortial users of Koha who might want to be able to do that
15:43 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9830: Fix some indexes in UNIMARC item indexing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c00131e0ff4c5d0c12a6886f23bb0e29f5e9da65>
15:42 kivilahtio    blou: I don't think that adds any value, and luckily we could negotiate out of that requirement.
15:41 blou          But I'm not sure it would add much value to community, versus the maintenance pain it could put on the codebase.  Of course, I'm a newbie myself, so I won't pretend to know the comm's preference on the matter
15:40 blou          ... just because...  :)   Yeah, well, what I gave you gives you a good indication on what/where the fixes are needed.
15:38 kivilahtio    sometimes I just feel like things need to be extra complex, just because
15:37 kivilahtio    I guess that latter one is not a big modification
15:36 kivilahtio    they also want to be able to set the hold fee by branch
15:36 kivilahtio    all these by branch
15:36 kivilahtio    for ex :)
15:36 kivilahtio    blou: and for every notice, 1st notice 2€, 2nd notice 3€, 3rd notice 5€ or 3€ or 2€
15:35 kivilahtio    blou: yes . I think it adds unnecessary complexity
15:35 blou          ... you mean a different processing fee for each branch?
15:35 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1459 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1451 3 days 16 hr ago)
15:35 blou          kivilahtio:  interesting, it never crossed our mind.  You mean the
15:34 blou          kivilahtio,mtompset,gmcharlt: Depending on feedbacksby kivilahtio, I could create a cute/clean patch later this week depending on "free" time.
15:33 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: update maredit links
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15:33 kivilahtio    blou: with your I meant our
15:33 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: update maredit links
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15:33 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11037: remove non-existent routines from Biblio's @EXPORT <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b1ed968c425bd98737ce1f6317f6b36b51f4ddd> / Bug 10908: restore docs on principal_name LDAP option <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c61d2d7011aa85c610afff9707f6db9718455b71> / Bug 10908: restore non-anonymous auth_by_bind LDAP options <http://git.koha-community.org/git
15:33 kivilahtio    blou: your librarians/directors whatnot would need to be able to set the overdue notice fine amount by the branch :) Luckily I was able to negotiate that we normalize that behaviour
15:31 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: update maredit links
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15:31 jenkins_koha  Starting build #164 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
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15:31 blou          the second is... overdue_notice.pl.  Ok, I can see that, that file had changed and keeps changing a lot.  And I'll say that of all the code I put in there, that is the one that we would do differently.  It's a hack, which was ok for ONE client, but makes no long term value
15:31 mtompset      I have a non-koha speaking engagement tonight, so I have lots of prep work to do. Have a good day, #koha ( gmcharlt blou kivilahtio etc.)
15:28 gmcharlt      blou: sure
15:28 mtompset      blou: Well, the second patch does not apply cleanly to anything.
15:28 blou          I'll just say that we DO NOT do things like that anymore, so we should (i agree) be better in such situation in the future
15:28 blou          gmcharlt: There was no branch for that fix, it's all merged with lot of things.  I cannot rebase the customer's branch whole, it would generate massive list of things to fix before having a valid "base".
15:26 mtompset      then it would be "git checkout -b bug_11092 v3.10.11"
15:26 gmcharlt      blou: even if you're just looking for feedback, rebasing and using git-bz or git-format-patch so that the patches can be applied readily can smooth things
15:26 blou          mtompset: you're too lenient with me, again
15:25 mtompset      No, you didn't fail. I didn't read.
15:25 blou          kivilahtio, mtompset: This is really implemented on 3.10, again.  We wanted community feedbacks before making a REAL patch for master.  I tried to express that in my bug's comment, but I guess I failed miserably :(
15:24 kivilahtio    mtompset: gmcharlt: blou: Thanks for your help again. I'll get back to my new patches
15:23 kivilahtio    blou: I think I can apply them and give feedback, so no sweat, just n00bing here
15:23 blou          I want to do a REAL patch, but i certainly had no time for it right now
15:23 kivilahtio    blou: ok, I just didnät understand what you meant as "just" diffs, but now I do :)
15:22 blou          Well, I did not build them expecting them to be applied with git bz...  That was really an As Is extract to help kivilahtio
15:22 kivilahtio    And I think I can manually apply the modifications,
15:21 kivilahtio    blou: I got the overrude.pl and *.tt files applied ok
15:21 mtompset      Could you please generate your patches with "git format-patch -o {some path to a known location} origin/master" instead of just a "git diff"?
15:21 blou          i imagine: extracting them was painful.  Applying them (to which version?) cannot be a walk in the park
15:21 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Need a processing fee and billing fee  on late notices.
15:21 blou          I did, just came back
15:21 mtompset      blou: kivilahtio and I are trying to apply your patches for bug 11092.
15:20 kivilahtio    blou: I thought you went away?
15:20 kivilahtio    mtompset: I think the patches I got are way off, that git cannot automatically apply them and I need to manually merge
15:20 blou          yes
15:20 mtompset      blou: Are you here?
15:18 mtompset      Hmm... just got your xmlrpc error, kivilahtio. :)
15:18 kivilahtio    or is there anything I can do if the apply-process fails, other than manually go through the patch file?
15:17 kivilahtio    so maybe I should rebound these patches if I cant apply them?
15:16 kivilahtio    patch doesn't apply
15:16 kivilahtio    ill try that
15:16 mtompset      rather than branching again and re-apply'ing.
15:16 kivilahtio    mtompset: oookay
15:15 mtompset      you can "git rebase origin/master", and it will be as it you applied it to origin/master.
15:15 mtompset      and 4 weeks later, because you found something wrong with it...
15:15 mtompset      so then you git bz apply 11092
15:14 mtompset      no, but you want to normally start from origin/master before the apply.
15:14 kivilahtio    mtompset:  but origin/master doesn't always have the bug as branch?
15:14 mtompset      I've had problems with rebasing otherwise, sometimes.
15:13 mtompset      That way it tracks origin/master.
15:13 mtompset      kivilahtio: I always git checkout -b bug_11092 origin/master
15:11 gmcharlt      great
15:11 kivilahtio    gmcharlt: I'll see what I cook up
15:11 kivilahtio    ok
15:11 gmcharlt      save them to files, then use git-apply
15:11 gmcharlt      as far as applying them manually, yes
15:11 gmcharlt      yeah, it would be reasonable to ask the patch submitter to attach the full git patches, whether or he uses git diff
15:11 kivilahtio    gmcharlt: Is it possible to apply them?
15:10 kivilahtio    gmcharlt: Ok, yeah I think he said they are just the git diffs
15:10 gmcharlt      and I believe that's what throwing it off
15:10 gmcharlt      they are just the git diffs, not the full patch with author and commit message
15:10 gmcharlt      kivilahtio: the problem is with the patches that were attached
15:09 kivilahtio    git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.path === /bugzilla3
15:08 kivilahtio    This URL seems to listen for something http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/xmlrpc.cgi
15:08 kivilahtio    xmlrpclib.ProtocolError: <ProtocolError for bugs.koha-community.org/xmlrpc.cgi: 404 Not Found>
15:07 kivilahtio    but not this one
15:07 kivilahtio    I can git bz apply 7376
15:07 kivilahtio    then tried the pastebin commands
15:06 kivilahtio    then git checkout -b 11092  => to checkout to a new branch named 11092
15:06 kivilahtio    I git pulled the master succesfully
15:06 kivilahtio    Any idea why I cannot apply this bug?
15:06 kivilahtio    http://pastebin.com/KwxhMMZt
14:49 alejope       ok, I will check the link
14:48 kivilahtio    just trying to get into the XSLT templates
14:47 kivilahtio    Is there any way to search the zebra index for all records with anything in field 773w?
14:47 nengard       there are a few companies in Spain listed here: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
14:46 alejope       I have problems with the installation. I have already installed everything according to instructions on the page but in the web installation point I get the message "The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance..."
14:43 alejope       I need support for koha instalation
14:42 nengard       http://koha-community.org/documentation/
14:40 nengard       alejope there is a spanish translation of the manual
14:40 nengard       mtompset yes, I was there for Kohacon
14:35 alejope       there are support in spanish?
14:34 alejope       hi good morning
14:32 mtompset      But you made it for the other parts of Kohacon, right?
14:31 nengard       mtompset I'm not there ... I'm home
14:22 mtompset      How goes the hack-fest? I was kind of confused by the kitten count on the scoreboard? There was something weird between totals and pictures of cat heads.
14:03 nengard       hello
14:03 JesseM        Hello mtompset
14:02 mtompset      Greetings, rambutan Oak nengard Callender JesseM BigRig :)
13:40 rambutan      hi oak
13:17 mtompset      Bonjour, blou.
13:16 blou          holà mtompset
13:16 mtompset      Greetings, #koha
13:10 jcamins       You just set it in the framework.
13:10 jcamins       It shouldn't use sysprefs for choosing which field.
13:07 dpavlin       yes, it seems to have sysprefs for that :-)
13:07 jcamins       Or should be able to. I tried it on a 5xx field at one point.
13:07 jcamins       dpavlin: it's a cataloging plugin, so you can use it on any subfield.
13:03 dpavlin       reading throu it it seems that it wants to upload files in biblio's 856u and I really need per-item files in 952u, but I will give it a try, thanks
12:59 kivilahtio    blou: I could try to masterize it while trying to make it work in our system
12:59 kivilahtio    blou: that would be awesome!
12:59 blou          Let me check if I could create a patch out of that
12:58 blou          kivilahtio: Hi Olli.  Philippe Blouin, from Montréal.   I checked the code.  That touches many things and would require some recoding to make it to the master.   We added 3 sysprefs (billing, processing, default replacement cost), then modified the overduerules table to add invoice(1,2,3) to determine if/when an invoice is sent, then the affiliated scripts (.tt, .pl...)
12:58 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
12:58 wahanui       Bug 6874 is epic
12:58 jcamins       Bug 6874
12:57 dpavlin       jcamins: damn. no, looking for it
12:56 jcamins       dpavlin: you've seen the file upload plugin that is in bugzilla?
12:54 dpavlin       I have been scratching my head about this for few days, does anybody has any ideas why?
12:54 kivilahtio    blou: Sharing is caring?
12:54 dpavlin       it's working (somewhat) but I don't get uploaded file handle in plugin_launcher.pl or in my value_builder code
12:53 dpavlin       I'm trying to write 952u value_builder which does file upload
12:41 kivilahtio    and blou. My name is Olli-Antti Kivilahti, from Finland, Joensuu. Nice to meet you!
12:40 blou          ...
12:40 blou          interface.  Some sysprefs, a custom bill (not cute)
12:40 kivilahtio    any ideas about extending that patch you have to be included in the master?
12:40 kivilahtio    blou: did you implement any user interface modifications regarding setting those values, or are those strictly hard-coded to the business layer?
12:39 blou          kivilahtio: let me check how extractable it is.  That was custom work for a client on 3.10 already with lot of custom work
12:38 kivilahtio    blou: can I get the code from somewhere?
12:38 blou          kivilahtio: we did that a month ago for a client, they needed a "processing fee" AND a "billing fee" in addition to the late/replacement fees
09:40 kivilahtio    I think I have asked this question before, and I guess the answer was to increase the daily fine amount to cover the mailing cost.
09:27 kivilahtio    we would like to add a extra notification fee for sending snail mail to our patrons regarding overdue notifications
09:26 kivilahtio    "Overdue notice/status triggers" -> "Rules for overdue actions"
09:25 kivilahtio    Do you have a need to fine your patrons some extra for the overdue notifications?
09:24 kivilahtio    Hyvää huomenta #Koha!
08:57 samueld       hi everybody
08:34 harry         .
08:28 harry         i have a ubuntu server with gui packages. should i install the server again with just the command line
08:26 harry         hello i am new to koha, i just like to know which kind of installation is easy using packages or through source
07:07 magnuse       gmcharlt++ for the hackfest summary
07:04 magnuse       bonjour gaetan_B
07:02 wahanui       hi, gaetan_B
07:02 gaetan_B      hello
06:42 reiveune      salut magnuse :)
06:42 magnuse       bonjour reiveune
06:41 reiveune      hello
06:27 magnuse       s/nach/nacht/
06:26 magnuse       guten nach cait
06:26 cait          good night #koha!
06:26 cait          :)
06:22 magnuse       petter++ for his first signoff
06:19 magnuse       34 kittens saved - yay!
06:18 * magnuse     waves
04:31 mtompset      There's just my tiny piece that needs sign off.
04:31 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
04:31 mtompset      Anyone care to sign off bug 6874?
03:31 mtompset      However, I decided to dpkg -P the deb file, and reinstall the default dh-make-perl after. :)
03:28 mtompset      but I did it via cpan2deb'ing it, and then apt-get remove the dh-make-perl, and dpkg -i the created .deb file
03:28 eythian       ah right.
03:27 mtompset      Oh, eythian, the version I upgraded to was 0.79 -- like in jessie or sid.
03:26 mtompset      day (24 hour period). :P
03:20 eythian       afternoon
03:19 bag           evening
02:41 eythian       ok
02:40 mtompset      upgrading dh-make-perl lost me cpan2deb, but the dh-make-perl command you gave works now.
02:09 mtompset      anyways... that's why I just grabbed the saucy one for my ubuntu system.
02:08 eythian       it's not necessary that they're the same version
02:07 mtompset      I think I upgraded my dh-make-perl.
02:07 mtompset      dh-make-perl 0.75-1, dh-make 0.61
02:04 mtompset      same problems.
02:04 eythian       dh-make-perl --build --cpan MARC::File::XML is what I use
02:04 mtompset      I'm trying to cpan2deb it.
02:03 mtompset      mentioned using dh_python2 instead.
02:03 eythian       I don't know why it'd be touching that
02:03 mtompset      dh_pysupport.
02:03 mtompset      it also complained that dn_pysupport is deprecated.
02:02 eythian       that's weird
02:02 mtompset      Because it is 1.0.1, and somehow that transformed to 1..1
02:02 mtompset      I got a bizarre upstream error message.
02:02 mtompset      oh right..
02:01 eythian       lsb_release -a
02:00 mtompset      how do you tell version of debian?
01:59 mtompset      Actually... maybe I tried this on my wheezy... let me check.
01:58 eythian       I need to make a wheezy build environment anyway
01:58 mtompset      -- or precise. Yes. Sounds kind of familiar.
01:57 eythian       I think it's expecting a different version of MakeMaker to the one that comes with squeeze.
01:57 mtompset      It installed on precise without complaint.
01:56 mtompset      That's why I just grabbed the saucy one.
01:55 eythian       it doesn't build immediately, that will be a problem.
01:54 mtompset      which is confusing.
01:54 mtompset      Yes, yes it is. That's part of the ugliness.
01:54 eythian       the cpan name is also identical
01:54 eythian       well, it is confusing
01:54 eythian       oh, not really
01:54 mtompset      confusing and ugly. Yes.
01:53 eythian       that's surprising.
01:53 mtompset      turns out that it is packaged in libmarc-xml-perl though.
01:53 eythian       this looks more plausible.
01:53 mtompset      eythian: The 0.4 is something else with the same name.
01:53 eythian       Oh, OK
01:52 tcohen        mtompset: hi! and yes!
01:52 wahanui       MARC::File::XML is probably used for C4->context for config information parsing, which happens in basically every page.
01:52 mtompset      MARC::File::XML
01:52 eythian       I only get version 0.4 from cpan...
01:51 mtompset      Got your messages. I'm assuming about the Ubuntu instructions in terms of wget'ing the saucy libmarc-xml-perl vs. waiting for the repo to host it vs. setting the xml parsers specifically.
01:50 mtompset      Greetings, tcohen. :)
01:50 mtompset      I tried to cpan2deb it, and it wasn't working nicely for me. :(
01:49 eythian       I need to work out what it gains us vs. the cost, but if it's not too fiddly to package, I'll probably do it.
01:48 eythian       Oh right.
01:48 mtompset      There was a conversation about this within the last week or so.
01:48 mtompset      The version desired in 1.0.1
01:47 eythian       http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libmarc-xml-perl&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
01:47 mtompset      I can download the saucy one into precise with no problems, but that seems like an ugly kludge.
01:47 eythian       It's in lucid, precise, quantal, raring, and saucy :)
01:47 mtompset      Yes.
01:47 eythian       oh really
01:46 mtompset      But it isn't in precise.
01:46 mtompset      It's in saucy.
01:46 eythian       It's already in Debian
01:45 mtompset      Will libmarc-xml-perl be packaged on the repository for download?
01:44 mtompset      Greetings, eythian.
01:40 eythian       hi
01:37 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
00:30 bag           khall:
00:10 tcohen        petter++
00:10 petter        feels great!
00:10 petter        wow, I havent been on IRC since I was 17
00:10 petter        hi!
00:10 tcohen        hi petter
00:10 tcohen        thx
00:08 gmcharlt      tcohen: git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/marcpm/code marcpm-code
00:02 dcook         rangi: I was just writing a comment for 10970 :p