Time  Nick       Message
23:59 mtompset   kay-tay? ki-tay?
23:57 rambuten   oh, that's how you pronounce it <kete>
23:57 mtompset   Greetings, rambuten.
23:57 rambuten   hi mtompset
23:56 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.
23:52 Ashimema   yikes, my wifi just seriously choked.
23:43 rambuten   Ashimema: yea, that's what we do too
23:43 Ashimema   we just encrypt the entire mysqldump during the gzipping stage before an rsync
23:43 gmcharlt   of course, performance tradeoffs would have to be considered
23:42 gmcharlt   encrypting columns in MySQL would take more work
23:42 Ashimema   but then, our db's tend to be pretty small..
23:42 gmcharlt   one could use an encrypted filesystem (or encrypt the backup tarballs)
23:42 rambuten   patron data mostly
23:42 Ashimema   We encrypt our gz's on occasions for some customers.. I used somthing along the lines of what's described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95920/encrypt-tar-gz-file-on-create
23:42 dcook      It was good advice, rangi
23:41 jcamins    rambuten: what data?
23:41 rangi      gah
23:39 rambuten   are there any thoughts about encrypting data w/in Koha (the mysql db?)
23:36 gmcharlt   :)
23:35 wahanui    Send a patch!
23:35 dcook      be rangi
23:32 wahanui    gmcharlt: I forgot we
23:32 gmcharlt   forget we
23:32 wahanui    we are trying to make the bot forget 'we'
23:32 gmcharlt   we?
23:32 gmcharlt   oopsie! ;)
23:32 gmcharlt   oh
23:31 gmcharlt   we are trying to make the bot forget 'we'
23:31 dcook      hehe
23:30 cait       we... ?
23:30 wahanui    cait: I forgot we
23:30 cait       forget we
23:30 wahanui    cait, I didn't have anything matching we...
23:30 cait       wahanui forget we... ?
23:30 dcook      :p
23:29 dcook      Ok, I banter...
23:29 wahanui    we are talkign feature freeze or missing a translation manager it seems
23:29 cait       we... ?
23:29 dcook      We totes banter!
23:27 cait1      yep
23:27 dcook      Yes!
23:27 dcook      "Hang out in #koha"
23:26 cait1      rangi++
23:21 dcook      rangi++
23:18 rambuten   Microsoft Windows Operating System
23:17 rambuten   chris is using Windows
23:15 rangi      :)
23:15 rambuten   If it's multiple choice, and you fail, ask the teacher for a narrative test.
23:14 rangi      i use KCMXMAN 5i2
23:14 rangi      throw
23:14 rangi      just through in acronyms
23:14 * dcook    has the same hope
23:11 oleonard   I hope there's not a quiz later on this talk.
23:07 * cait1    waves
23:02 dcook      ^^
23:01 gmcharlt   out of many little stones is a wall made
23:00 wizzyrea   but thank you all the same :)
23:00 wizzyrea   to be fair it wasn't that big of a job. And they needed to be updated.
22:53 dcook      That's great
22:53 dcook      wizzyrea++
22:53 gmcharlt   wizzyrea++
22:52 wizzyrea   phew glad to get that done. :)
22:52 wizzyrea   yea much better
22:52 wizzyrea   \o/
22:52 eythian    http://debian.koha-community.org/ <-- wizzyrea, looks good.
22:51 oleonard   Up now: Koha physical and virtual server requirements, with some staff from Washoe County Library
22:51 dcook      Unrelated perhaps
22:51 dcook      Although I had issues last night around midnight
22:51 dcook      mmm
22:50 wizzyrea   ^ what he said
22:50 wizzyrea   probably take your phones and such off of the network?
22:50 rangi      i suspect we are maxing dhcp addresses
22:50 rangi      neither does mine oleonard
22:50 dcook      I had a horrible time with the wifi on my phone last night.
22:50 oleonard   This laptop really doesn't like the wifi in here.
22:48 eythian    You could write a perl script to export the records you wanted fairly easily.
22:48 jcamins    I think if you want to export a list of records based on biblionumber you'd need to write your own script that would do that.
22:47 jcamins    I don't think that's possible.
22:46 mrx        want to use export.pl web interface result through perl script, rather using web interface prefer to use through perl script. what will be the command in perl to select specic record e.g. rec 23, 345 & 678 to export as .mrc file in perl script. Thanks in advance guys
22:35 wizzyrea   k
22:35 eythian    sure, if you pop through the files I'll upload them
22:34 wizzyrea   eythian: we can fixup the debian one to look like that too - just a </div> removed from header and added to footer
22:33 eythian    nice
22:32 wizzyrea   http://download.koha-community.org/ < got a refresh today
22:30 wahanui    "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
22:30 eythian    wahanui: first question
22:30 eythian    mrx: what are you trying to do?
22:05 mrx        Hi guys, still a koha newbie, so my queries might be quite trivial still. Is there a way to export only selected number of marc records as .mrc using perl scripting?
22:02 oleonard   ;)
22:02 dcook      Ah, good point
22:01 oleonard   No no he clearly said "catalog"
22:01 dcook      "It's now known as the catalogue!"
22:01 dcook      hehe
21:59 jcamins    oleonard: no, it's the one with the cat falling into it.
21:58 * oleonard pictures jcamins' suitcase as being shiny, futuristic, and with many swooshes
21:55 jcamins    And yes, my suitcase is from the internet.
21:54 * dcook    is wondering why there is singing next door
21:53 oleonard   And everyone else talked too little rangi
21:52 jcamins    Okay, 1.5kg and my suitcase has gone past "full" to "OMG YOU CAN'T PUT ANY MORE COOKIES IN HERE."
21:52 rangi      blargh, i talked way to much
21:51 wahanui    Cookies are delicious delicacies
21:51 dcook      Cookies!
21:51 dcook      jcamins++
21:47 jcamins    Now... how do I pack the other kg?
21:47 jcamins    Okay, 1kg of cookies in the suitcase.
21:43 dcook      yo eythian
21:38 wahanui    bonjour, eythian
21:38 eythian    hi
21:29 rambuten   whatever it is, they need to put the energy drinks away
21:27 dcook      Another library conference?
21:27 dcook      Lots of wooing, whistling, and shouting
21:27 * dcook    wonders what is happening in the adjacent room
21:06 dcook      I knew I was deaf but not this deaf
21:05 dcook      Yeah, hearing is pretty tough
21:02 rambuten   Might be time for independent research
21:01 rambuten   I can't hear a thing.
21:00 dcook      It's been on my wishlist since I started using Koha
21:00 dcook      Super excited for the text editor interface for cataloguing
21:00 dcook      pianohacker++
20:41 dcook      Remote in to check email...retrieving 400 emails...guess I haven't checked my work email in a couple days...
20:31 ibeardslee http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/oct/15/neil-gaiman-future-libraries-reading-daydreaming
19:39 huginn     druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 21.1°C (2:39 PM CDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
19:39 druthb     @wunder 77098
19:39 huginn     druthb: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 12.4°C (12:30 PM PDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
19:39 druthb     @wunder reno, nv
18:53 tcohen     Heh
18:53 dcook      Hmm, I'm almost thinking nap time...
18:52 rambuten   chow time, ltr
18:51 rambuten   my eyes hurt
18:51 gmcharlt   sfayle++
18:48 jcamins    Oh, wait, In discussion.
18:48 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8688 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, In Discussion , Add a recall button to the biblio record details page.
18:48 jcamins    bug 8688
18:48 dcook      Now I'm just going to spam #koha, eh..
18:48 huginn     dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8156 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, NEW , allow users to put things in lists that are not in the catalog (free text entries to lists)
18:48 huginn     dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10679 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, NEW , Lists interface offers delete option when user doesn't have permission
18:48 huginn     dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7126 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Transfer does not prompt with hold information
18:48 huginn     dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4390 major, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Notices missing fields in menu on left
18:48 dcook      Hmm
18:48 huginn     dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation
18:47 dcook      @query recall
18:47 jcamins    There's a patch in Failed QA, I think.
18:47 dcook      I think that we have a local recall feature using PHP, but I'm not a fan of it...
18:47 dcook      That would be great if Koha got a recall feature
18:40 bgallagher Exit-services-charges--
18:36 rambuten   ATT
18:36 rambuten   bywater getting good press ATTY
18:34 bgallagher Hi Ruth
18:34 rambuten   indeed
18:34 * druthb   chucks skittles at bgallagher.
18:34 bgallagher Great job so far everyone
18:34 AndroUser2 hi rambuten, bgallagher
18:33 rambuten   hey brendan
18:33 bgallagher Hi there
18:28 dcook      hehe
18:28 rambuten   [off]quietly fuming
18:28 oleonard   Hearing trash talk about proprietary systems is always fun. I like this part.
18:28 * druthb   plans to torture it out of rambuten when she gets there tomorrow.
18:27 rambuten   you'd have to be here to understand
18:26 rambuten   she's giving a talk on open source
18:26 rambuten   nope, I ain't
18:26 oleonard   Now a talk on "One Library's Koha Migration Experience" from Suzanne Fayle of Roseman University Health Sciences
18:26 * druthb   makes squinty eyes at rambuten
18:25 rambuten   I'm not going to say anything
18:25 nengard    :)
18:23 tcohen     nengard++
18:23 gmcharlt   nengard++
18:21 * druthb   is still kind of thunderstruck that the "teach for the ah-hah!" made such an impact on her.
18:17 druthb     :)
18:17 rambuten   your "ah ha!" training style
18:17 druthb     she better be saying nice things!  :P
18:17 druthb     oooh.
18:17 oleonard   nengard
18:16 druthb     nkeenr?
18:16 druthb     !
18:16 oleonard   Positively, of course :)
18:16 rambuten   druthb: n's talking about you!
18:11 jcamins    I wonder if they get credit for it as an in-service.
18:10 gmcharlt   WashoeCounty++
18:09 gmcharlt   jcamins: something like five or six, I think -- mostly working on the conference, of course
18:06 * dcook    has no idea
18:06 jcamins    Did a lot of Washoe County staff come to the conference?
18:00 oleonard   nengard is up now with a talk on Koha Training
17:59 rambuten   my current room on the 10th floor is technicallhy ns, and much better that the first room
17:57 gmcharlt   and failed, I gather :(
17:57 rambuten   all of the 18th floor is smoking
17:57 rambuten   gmcharlt: They originally put me in a smoking room by mistake, but on my request switched me to a ns room
17:56 jcamins    rambuten: eventually it will result in improvement.
17:56 larryb     I think most of the rooms are non-smoking, but the casino floor is another world.
17:56 rambuten   jcamins: I wouldn't presume room changes will result in improvements necessarily
17:55 larryb     I don't notice any smell in my room.
17:55 gmcharlt   my room is OK as well
17:55 larryb     the guest rooms are better than anywhere else in the hotel
17:55 oleonard   Mine is fine, FWIW.
17:55 dcook      Maybe my sense of smell isn't very keen though
17:55 jcamins    Yeah, I was just contemplating the question of how many times I will be rejecting my room.
17:55 dcook      I haven't noticed any smoke smell in my room. The ventilation on the floor wasn't too bad either.
17:55 gmcharlt   if so, might be worth bugging the hotel about it
17:54 gmcharlt   rambuten: :( was your room supposed to be nonsmoking?
17:54 rambuten   I've been bothered by the smoke ever since I got here, even in my room
17:54 oleonard   A lot of places are getting better about it, but not apparently Reno.
17:54 larryb     normally it is not dcook , but this is a casino
17:54 jcamins    By the time I moved to New York, smoking had been banned.
17:53 dcook      Yeah...I was rather stunned that smoking was allowed inside. I haven't been in America in a while...
17:53 larryb     I used to smoke, and walking through the casino floor is enough to get to me. I can only imagine what the non-smokers are going through.
17:53 dcook      hehe
17:53 gmcharlt   it's a pity that sprinklers cannot be aimed
17:53 mtompset   I suppose I should work on a presentation I'm giving October 21. Have a great day, #koha.
17:53 jcamins    _Yuck_.
17:53 jcamins    Oh, cigarette smoke.
17:52 oleonard   From the smokers on the slot machines
17:52 larryb     yeah, gamblers smoke. a lot
17:52 jcamins    oleonard: smoke?
17:51 oleonard   Ugh. We seem to be getting smoke from the casino floor in here :P
17:34 oleonard   ^keynote slides
17:34 oleonard   http://www.slideshare.net/gmcharlt/calm-at-the-center-of-the-distributed-whirlwinds
17:30 rambuten   I can tell my librarians are going to be asking me lots of questions later
17:29 larryb     heya druthb
17:29 gmcharlt   dcook: just where they set one up
17:29 druthb     larryb!
17:28 dcook      gmcharlt: Thanks for the head's up. I'll keep that in mind. Did you bring it or is a perk of being in the front?
17:27 * magnuse  too
17:26 * blou     wishes he was there
17:26 blou       wahahui?  kohacon schedule :)
17:26 druthb     Mine's about a foot of cord.
17:26 blou       I'll find someone... after kohacon
17:25 gmcharlt   druthb: I have something similar as well, though it has no cord (it's a wall wart)
17:25 jcamins    Hey, shouldn't nengard have her airport hero thing?
17:25 mtompset   Sadly, I know nothing of invoices.
17:25 jcamins    Nope.
17:24 blou       mtompset: invoices?
17:24 druthb     I have a short-corded power strip that i'm brininging.  Three ports, plus two USB charge ports.
17:24 gmcharlt   :)
17:24 * druthb   would join gmcharlt just to be joining gmcharlt, not for the watts.
17:24 jcamins    But I'll check.
17:24 jcamins    I suspect I do not.
17:23 jcamins    I should check if I have a grounded splitter.
17:23 gmcharlt   there is a power strip in the front row where I'm sitting -- join me if your battery is low! ;)
17:21 rambuten   concur
17:21 dcook      I might just be deaf but the volume seems a bit low..
17:20 mtompset   blou: Quite likely, unless I happen to know the answer. However, I'm more of a coder type than a librarian type.
17:20 dcook      Anyone else having troubles hearing presentations?
17:20 mtompset   "Galen asked us to keep gratitude in our minds." -- Nice point.
17:19 jcamins    dcook: I would think. I've kept it plugged in for this, though.
17:18 dcook      jcamins: I could see that chewing through some power
17:18 dcook      rambuten: Ahh, there you are. That's where I originally thought of sitting as I thought all the outlets on the left side of the room were used. I think there are some spares here too. Also not near the tables though really...I see one extension cord already.
17:17 jcamins    dcook: yeah, I have three VMs running with close to 100% CPU usage, then an indexing process using most of the rest of the CPU, and web browser and Calibre basically use up the rest.
17:16 rambuten   I'm gonna have to break down and buy a tablet
17:16 druthb     My MacBook really sips at the power; it'll run a good while, if I'm careful.
17:15 rambuten   There's a spare outlet back in the corner where I am
17:14 dcook      rambuten: Ouch. Yeah, I was just asking cait how people were managing without being plugged in
17:14 wahanui    4
17:14 dcook      jcamins: 400%?
17:12 rambuten   I/it
17:12 rambuten   jcamins: my netbook is really bad on the 3 cell battery, I pretty much went to 0 during gmcharlt's presentation
17:08 jcamins    I'm glad my laptop's battery is good, but I guess that means I'll have to stop running it with CPU usage pegged at 400% all the time.
17:08 dcook      hey ya magnuse!
17:08 * magnuse  waves to the kohaconfers
17:07 gaetan_B   bye !
17:05 dcook      Especially since this laptop cord is the shortest cord in the world
17:05 * dcook    is thinking that getting a powerboard/extension cord might be in the works, especially if this room is used for the hackfest as well.
17:05 dcook      Serious lack of power points in this room...
17:05 dcook      jcamins: They were both sitting in front of me, yes
17:03 rambuten   me 2
17:02 * jcamins  suspects oleonard, dcook, and rangi.
17:02 blou       I guess I'll have harder time getting answers to my questions until next week :)
17:01 dcook      Hehe. It's fun to be able to look around the room and see who is still at their computers :p
17:01 oleonard   http://bywatersolutions.com/2013/10/16/kohacon13-galen/
17:01 blou       cool
17:01 oleonard   Video will be available after the conference I believe
17:00 dcook      I'm not sure what the plan with the video is either
17:00 dcook      gmcharlt++
17:00 oleonard   Others are using the #kohacon13 hashtag too, but no full transcriptions yet
16:59 blou       beside oleonard twitter's, any way to follow the keynote?  :)
16:59 rangi      http://storify.com/ranginui <-- that working?
16:58 rangi      gmcharlt++
16:58 oleonard   gmcharlt++
16:58 blou       dcook: thanks.  Ok, I thought that was "standard".  Might explain why only one of our library raised the issue
16:58 oleonard   gmcharlt gives a well-timed keynote :)
16:57 mtompset   Greetings, blou dcook.
16:57 dcook      Sorry, blou, no idea. We don't have many libraries using acquisitions, I think.
16:57 blou       greeting mtompset
16:56 mtompset   Greetings, #koha.
16:55 blou       wahahui, please answer me!  :)
16:55 blou       Here we do (Price + shipment) * gst, but a library pointed out the invoice is calculated (Price*gst)+shipment
16:54 blou       Is the rest of the world calculating shipment AFTER the tax, or I'm just not understanding some preference?
16:53 blou       I got a naive question on Invoices.  (see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_Prices for my bedtime readings)
16:52 blou       greetings
16:51 rambuten   jenkins++
16:44 dcook      All the fines!
16:31 rangi      i usually heckle myself when im presenting, if you cant beat them, join them :)
16:29 dcook      lol
16:25 rangi      hehe
16:24 oleonard   Yeah, this keynote needs more heckling!
16:24 rangi      send a patch to galens slides :-)
16:24 dbs        course reserves! nice
16:24 rangi      :-)
16:24 dbs        the pedant in me must note that it's actually RDFa, not microdata - heh
16:23 rangi      https://twitter.com/oleonard/status/390511754188713984
16:23 dbs        just ignore that whole "and dbs broke the build" thing :)
16:23 dbs        awww
16:22 jeff       dbs++
16:22 rangi      in the keynote, for the schema.org work
16:21 rangi      you got a shout out dbs
16:20 dbs        \o/ -- following along via IRC :)
16:13 oleonard   Conference begins! gmcharlt is doing the keynote now
15:56 reiveune   bye
14:40 kivilahtio brb
14:40 kivilahtio jcamins: ok ok, so a huge self replicating if-blob it is then
14:40 jcamins    It has to be [% IF %]<option ...>[% ELSE %]<option ...>[% END %]
14:40 jcamins    Also, you can't have that if inside the option tag.
14:39 jcamins    So put an if around it.
14:39 kivilahtio jcamins: the option can be selected as well
14:38 jcamins    I would just write: <option value="_ShowAll">Show all requests</option> before the loop.
14:38 kivilahtio jcamins: any better suggestions?
14:38 kivilahtio jcamins: it's just 10 rows :)
14:38 jcamins    It is, but I am a little doubtful about the need for that.
14:38 kivilahtio jcamins: yeah, I know, but it is a pain to use it
14:38 kivilahtio Can "Show all requests" be localized?
14:38 jcamins    Yikes. For future reference, we have a pastebin at paste.koha-community.org.
14:37 kivilahtio .
14:37 kivilahtio </select>
14:37 kivilahtio [%- END %]
14:37 kivilahtio </option>
14:37 kivilahtio [%- END -%]
14:37 kivilahtio [% branchloo.branchname %]
14:37 kivilahtio [%- ELSE -%]
14:37 kivilahtio Show all requests
14:37 kivilahtio [% IF ( branchloo.branchcode ) == '_ShowAll' -%]
14:37 kivilahtio >
14:37 kivilahtio [%- END -%]
14:37 kivilahtio selected="selected"
14:37 kivilahtio [% IF ( branchloo.selected ) -%]
14:37 kivilahtio <option value="[% branchloo.branchcode %]"
14:37 kivilahtio [%- FOREACH branchloo IN branchloop %]
14:37 kivilahtio <select name="branchLimiter" size="1" id="branchLimiter">
14:37 kivilahtio jcamins: is this OK?
14:30 jcamins    Or should always be present.
14:30 jcamins    The all option needn't be generated in the same way, since it will always be present.
14:29 kivilahtio the localizer should pick it
14:29 jcamins    Yeah.
14:29 kivilahtio just change this   >[% branchloo.branchname %]</   to plain text
14:29 kivilahtio <option value="[% branchloo.branchcode %]" selected="selected">[% branchloo.branchname %]</option>
14:29 kivilahtio jcamins: wait I think I can localize it
14:28 jcamins    It's in JS, yes?
14:28 jcamins    kivilahtio: it should be possible.
14:28 kivilahtio actualyl it cant be substituted, because even the templates don't use localizable tags but this "script"
14:27 kivilahtio jcamins: wow, ok, I'll try to get over it by substituting the stirng from the templates
14:26 jcamins    There's a patch to make it possible, but the it's pretty old.
14:26 cait       localize scripts or similar
14:26 kivilahtio jcamins: maybe it is time for a localization script rebuilding?
14:26 cait       look in bugzilla
14:26 cait       there is a bug for that
14:26 kivilahtio jcamins: fuuuuu
14:26 jcamins    kivilahtio: right now that can't be done.
14:25 kivilahtio cait: any idea how to localize the perl-code? I have a branch picker, which has a custom value, "Show requests from all branches". This String is set in Perl-code, but I would like to have it translateable.
14:25 kivilahtio good morning cait
14:19 cait       good morning #koha
14:09 * gmcharlt goes off in hunt of the wild omelet
14:02 * oleonard seeks breakfast
13:44 jcamins    oleonard: in that case, well done!
13:43 oleonard   jcamins: My internal clock woke me up at 3, so I'm just lucky I haven't been up since then
13:42 rambuten   I'm out to forage for sustenance
13:41 rambuten   yep
13:41 jcamins    Wow, everyone's up early. Isn't it 6:40 now?
13:41 jcamins    rambuten: yeah, I might have to.
13:40 rambuten   morning oleonard
13:40 rambuten   leave all the clothes and shoes at home
13:40 oleonard   Hi #koha
13:38 jcamins    I'm a little perplexed how I'm going to transport all the cookies.
13:36 * magnuse  wanders off to make dinner
13:35 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
13:35 magnuse    @wunder boo
13:34 huginn     druthb: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is -0.3°C (6:30 AM PDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
13:34 druthb     @wunder reno, nv
13:34 huginn     druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 20.0°C (8:34 AM CDT on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
13:34 druthb     @wunder 77098
13:33 magnuse    exactly
13:32 gmcharlt   or wait and not see, but hopefully it won't come to that
13:31 magnuse    we'll just have to wait and see, then :-)
13:30 gmcharlt   magnuse: I don't know
13:29 magnuse    any news on the conf being video'ed?
13:29 magnuse    yay!
13:28 gmcharlt   now that I've finished my slides, yes :)
13:22 magnuse    ready to do an awesome keynote? :-)
13:22 gmcharlt   hi, rambuten and magnuse
13:22 magnuse    kia ora gmcharlt
13:20 rambuten   morning gmcharlt
13:20 huginn     rambuten: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 day, 10 hours, 54 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <rangi> yay eythian !
13:20 rambuten   @seen rangi
13:19 gmcharlt   and now, out of bed
13:19 huginn     rambuten: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 15 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> and now, to bed
13:19 rambuten   @seen gmcharlt
13:19 JesseM     Hello
13:18 magnuse    moahahaha
13:17 kivilahtio magnuse: The good thing is that if a volcano erupts and all the Koha devs are in Reno, we can take over Europe
13:17 huginn     rambuten: cait was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 53 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <cait> yeah :)
13:17 rambuten   @seen cait
13:17 kivilahtio me just code all day long :)
13:17 kivilahtio listen to co-worker bitching
13:16 kivilahtio code all day long
13:16 kivilahtio me no fly to Reno, me just happy coding
13:16 magnuse    not me!
13:16 kivilahtio Everybody's flying to Reno ;(
13:16 kivilahtio bad cookie bad
13:15 magnuse    yay
13:15 jcamins    I just checked in.
13:15 jcamins    Yeah.
13:15 kivilahtio phpmysqladmin died... noo , god nooo
13:14 magnuse    jcamins: you are flying to reno tomorrow?
13:13 magnuse    nope :-)
13:13 jcamins    And I won't. But that doesn't make it any less perplexing, does it?
13:12 jcamins    Of course.
13:11 magnuse    well, it is a max weight? you dont *have* to reach that weight to carry it on board, i think? ;-)
13:10 jcamins    Liquids or things that could be used as bludgeons.
13:09 jcamins    Things that aren't permitted on airplanes.
13:09 jcamins    Yeah, that's all I could think of, too.
13:08 kivilahtio booze
13:08 kivilahtio gold?
13:08 kivilahtio jcamins: you could chop a body
13:08 magnuse    guns?
13:07 jcamins    40lbs.
13:07 jcamins    wtf could I put in such a small suitcase that weighs 18kg?
13:07 jcamins    Sorry, 18kg.
13:07 kivilahtio jcamins: when you calculate width + height + depth =  total linear length
13:07 jcamins    Here's something I can't figure out. My carry-on luggage can't measure more than 115cm total linear length or weigh more than 40kg.
13:07 kivilahtio great going!
13:05 magnuse    yay!
13:05 wahanui    somebody said bgkriegel was on a signoff spree
13:05 magnuse    bgkriegel?
13:04 magnuse    kivilahtio: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Editing_the_Koha_Manual
13:03 magnuse    kivilahtio: the manual is a git repo - you can clone it and send patches to nengard or to the documentation list
13:00 kivilahtio and I guess 7376
13:00 kivilahtio regarding UseBranchTransferLimits
13:00 kivilahtio bgkriegel: 11020, 11024, 10993
12:41 wahanui    magnuse is, like, a Norwegian giant
12:41 bgkriegel  magnuse?
12:32 bgkriegel  kivilahtio: yes. What bugs you need? And for documentation write to Nicole Engard (nengard)
12:27 kivilahtio I presume the sign-offee needs to be from a different organisation than I am?
12:26 kivilahtio And I have a load of bugs that need signing off, any suggestions who could help with that? Could we exchange sign off's?
12:24 kivilahtio where do I commit my documentation changes I want to be pushed to the Koha manual regarding bugs 7376, 11020, 11024, 10993
12:24 kivilahtio speaking of manuals
12:23 kivilahtio According to the Koha manual this shouldn't be true, but I guess I need to check it out
12:23 kivilahtio oddity odd
12:23 kivilahtio Our librarian is complaining that all holds for all libraries are displayed in the holds list. Not sure which hold list she means.
11:58 kivilahtio http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:sip_support&s[]=sip2
11:58 kivilahtio luckily I had this
11:57 kivilahtio drojf: SIP2 is only bad if you don't have proper documentation about how it works in well digestable format
11:57 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7376 critical, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Transfer limits should be checked at check-in
11:57 kivilahtio drojf: I almost did, but then again, I realized some stuff and documented and applied it to bug 7376
11:26 drojf      yes, we have seen people go mad over SIP2 before...
11:26 drojf      hi kivilahtio
11:18 * magnuse  starts to worry about kivilahtio's sanity ;-)
11:01 kivilahtio SIP2 is fun ;)
11:01 kivilahtio damn I beat SIP2 issues!
11:01 kivilahtio päivää drojf
10:49 drojf      hei magnuse
10:34 magnuse    moin drojf
10:20 drojf      hi #koha
07:50 magnuse    okelydokely
07:49 kivilahtio I will just add the use lib() directive and then get f'd up trying to push those changes to the master :)
07:49 kivilahtio no help regarding the dependencies
07:49 kivilahtio magnuse: read the README and test.txt
07:46 magnuse    but it also looks like those tests have not been touched in a while
07:46 magnuse    might be some hints in there
07:44 magnuse    kivilahtio: have you seen C4/SIP/t/README ?
07:42 kivilahtio I could add a "use lib()" directive to the test cases bu I wonder why they haven't been added there yet?
07:41 kivilahtio C4/SIP/t/08circulation.t   depends on ./SIPTests.pm and ../Sip/Constants
07:40 kivilahtio They depend on many libraries which are in various directories
07:40 kivilahtio Any idea how the SIP test cases are meant to be ran?
07:21 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11057 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Bootstrap theme: Don't hide language chooser below the fold
07:21 magnuse    the hidden language chooser is now Bug 11057
07:20 magnuse    for the record: the error i got when i changed the language went away after i downloaded the bootstrap .po file from pootle, fixed some errors in it and installed the language again. yay!
07:13 samueld    gmcharlt: ok, i've read your mail
07:08 wahanui    salut, gaetan_B
07:08 gaetan_B   hello
07:04 gmcharlt   and now, to bed
07:03 gmcharlt   samueld: I've sent you an email regarding where to upload the VM images
07:03 gmcharlt   (at least for testing purposes)
07:03 gmcharlt   easily worked around
07:01 magnuse    ah, it can't find nb-NO-opac-bootstrap.po of course
06:57 magnuse    gmcharlt: hm, koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/nb-NO/ is empty, perhaps the translate process failed...
06:56 samueld    hi everybody
06:55 magnuse    sure
06:54 gmcharlt   magnuse: if it's handy, could you paste the first 10 lines or so of any of the translated bootstrap template files?
06:53 magnuse    or two
06:52 magnuse    i'll report a bug
06:52 magnuse    it works with the prog theme
06:51 magnuse    it's the one that is updated automatically every night, so i thought maybe something had been pushed after the last pull
06:50 magnuse    yeah, the installation is up to date
06:50 gmcharlt   magnuse: I doubt it
06:49 magnuse    that might what was fixed by the very last patch pushed? not sure...
06:49 magnuse    oops, i get an error when i try to actually change the language: Template process failed: file error - cssinclude: not found at /home/magnus/kohahead/C4/Templates.pm line 132.
06:48 magnuse    yeah, i think so too...
06:48 gmcharlt   (though two people running into this probably indicates that it should be moved)
06:48 magnuse    that is not quite ideal, though
06:46 magnuse    ah, thanks gmcharlt
06:46 gmcharlt   magnuse: it should -- bgkriegel had tried it and noted that one must keep scrolling down
06:46 magnuse    um, does the language chooser not display with the new bootstrap theme?
06:41 magnuse    bonjour reiveune
06:41 reiveune   hello
06:29 magnuse    cait: if you see rangi, tell him https://www.rebelmouse.com/kohacon13/ is 404 again
06:25 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 16.0°C (3:00 AM ART on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
06:25 magnuse    @wunder cordoba, argentina
06:25 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 15.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
06:25 magnuse    @wunder marseille
06:25 magnuse    brrr
06:24 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 2.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on October 16, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
06:24 magnuse    @wunder boo
06:24 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 4.4°C (11:15 PM PDT on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
06:24 magnuse    @wunder reno, nv
06:24 magnuse    w00t!
06:24 cait       yeah :)
06:23 magnuse    having fun?
06:23 magnuse    yay!
06:23 * cait     waves back
06:23 * magnuse  waves
04:36 cait-m     hm lounge not lobby i guess
04:35 rambuton   And some of us are in bed already
04:33 cait-m     some of us are sitting in the lobby now
02:56 mtompset   Well, I am going. Have a great day, #koha.
02:36 wizzyrea   idk.
02:36 wizzyrea   guilty conscience?
02:33 mtompset   wizzyrea: You are assuming people leave the casinos to eat. Why would they do that?
02:29 wizzyrea   that or the wifi you are on blocks video from youtube.
02:29 wizzyrea   2nd probably better for those who don't like dubstep :P
02:29 wizzyrea   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aeqHYGs6CQ&feature=player_embedded
02:28 wizzyrea   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR8ihDnYk08&feature=player_embedded
02:27 wizzyrea   oh no!
02:27 oleonard   "video unavailable" for some reason
02:25 wizzyrea   http://laughingsquid.com/nonstop-dubstep-dances-to-thriller-and-beat-it-as-a-tribute-to-michael-jackson/?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer63a00&utm_medium=twitter
02:25 oleonard   Late afternoon oleonard, but not productive oleonard ;)
02:24 oleonard   Hmmm... Mexican/Salvadoran?
02:24 wizzyrea   what a pleasure a late afternoon oleonard.
02:23 wizzyrea   kek.
02:23 oleonard   wizzyrea: You used to pop over for a quick divorce once in a while?
02:22 wizzyrea   i haven't been to reno in ages.
02:21 wizzyrea   the casinos are probably 24/7 - so I'm surprised that more restaurants aren't open later.
02:21 rambuton   what about the purple parrot?
02:21 jcamins    wizzyrea: really? Reno seemed like a has-been when I looked it up.
02:20 oleonard   Yeah I find that weird too, but there is so much stuff inside the hotel I guess people always have options
02:20 * wizzyrea can't believe that things actually close at 9 in *reno*
02:19 oleonard   Looks like some things might be closing at 9. That doesn't give us much time
02:19 tcohen     there's a mexican one
02:18 mtompset   Greetings, ebegin.
02:17 mtompset   Magandang gabi din po sa iyo, rambuton. :)
02:17 wizzyrea   peruvian!
02:17 * oleonard finds a listing for a nearby Peruvian restaurant
02:16 rambuton   magandang gabi mtompset
02:16 oleonard   Conference start in 14 hours or so
02:15 tcohen     :-D
02:15 oleonard   No conferencing yet, just socializing
02:15 mtompset   How goes the conference thus far?
02:15 oleonard   Hi mtompset
02:15 mtompset   Greetings, tcohen oleonard rambuton dcook.
02:05 wizzyrea   true enough.
02:05 rambuton   not that I'm aware of. He's pretty good about tweeting his presence.
02:04 wizzyrea   is gmcharlt there yet?
02:04 rambuton   Think several of us will be sub-par.
01:56 * dcook    apologizes in advance if he makes zero sense tonight....or even really for the rest of the conference :p
01:56 dcook      I've been up for...15 hours and running on 4 hours of sleep?
01:56 * dcook    should make himself semi-presentable
01:49 rambuton   'k
01:49 cait       we haven't discussed that yet
01:48 cait       not sure
01:48 rambuton   cait: where is everybody going to go eat this evening?