Time  Nick         Message
23:43 cait         you might try again
23:43 cait         dcook: we are still here....
23:26 wizzyrea     gracious.
23:26 BobB         See you at 8
23:26 BobB         Its nearly 30 hours since I was horizontal
23:26 BobB         I am going to grab a couple of hours sleep now ...
23:26 dcook        bbiab
23:26 dcook        time to skype the wife
23:26 dcook        tcohen: rude?
23:25 BobB         then you are right, that's  not rangi
23:25 tcohen       that's too rude dcook
23:25 dcook        But I think I know the place. 8 sounds great.
23:25 dcook        Older lady and an asian fellow
23:25 dcook        Mmm, nopes
23:25 BobB         they were probably cait and rangi :)
23:24 tcohen       :D
23:24 dcook        I think I saw a couple people over there earlier
23:24 dcook        Ahh, is the lounge that place with all the chairs and little tables?
23:24 tcohen       next to the desk
23:24 BobB         not sure, but not too far from the desk
23:24 dcook        I'll be there (or at least try to find the right place at the right time)
23:24 dcook        hehe
23:23 dcook        Are the 1-12 lifts the first set?
23:23 BobB         dcook, be there or be square  :)
23:23 BobB         meeting there just before 8
23:23 dcook        Hmm, neato
23:23 BobB         there is an atrium lounge on ground floor near the bottom of the 1-12 lifts
23:23 dcook        hey BobB
23:22 BobB         cait is organising a meet-up for dinner
23:21 BobB         hi tcohen
23:21 BobB         hi dcook
23:06 tcohen       i'm about to take a shower and head to bb
23:06 tcohen       cait, what plan?
23:06 mtompset     The organization I was seconded to while in the Philippines initially.
23:05 mtompset     Okay, good wahanui didn't pick it up.
23:05 mtompset     meaning?
23:05 mtompset     archiac meaning?
23:05 mtompset     The no longer a valid meaning, but archaic meaning is Summer Institute of Linguistics.
23:04 rambuten     SIL?
23:04 mtompset     I'm a little out of the SIL Philippines loop.
23:03 mtompset     I haven't heard about any of my immediate colleagues being affected.
23:03 rambuten     mtompset, everybody in the PH OK?
23:03 mtompset     Of couse, I didn't ask anyone, so to be expected. ;)
23:02 mtompset     No one felt like making a round trip ticket donation. :(
23:02 mtompset     Not a problem. I'm not there. :(
23:02 BobB         thx mtompset  :)
23:02 rambuten     I'll be down in 30 min or so
23:01 BobB         ok, I will come down, thx
23:01 cait         :)
23:01 cait         and he survived.... come and meet us, we are sitting closeto the elevator 1-12
23:01 BobB         hi cait, yes just in my room 15 mins
23:01 mtompset     Cool.
23:01 rambuten     very good so far
23:01 BobB         hi mtompset, I've just arrived and need to get some sleep
23:01 tcohen       i've met oleonard, rangi, cait, paul_p
23:01 cait         are you here yet?
23:01 cait         hey BobB
23:01 mtompset     How goes the KohaCon?
23:00 wahanui      que tal, tcohen
23:00 tcohen       hi
23:00 mtompset     tcohen is.
23:00 mtompset     cait is. :)
23:00 BobB         Is anyone in Reno about now?
22:49 mtompset     Enough bolds, underlines, and italics?
22:49 mtompset     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Disable_Default_Site
22:49 mtompset     Okay... my page just wasn't refreshing.
22:46 eythian      still works for me
22:46 eythian      nope
22:43 mtompset     Did wiki.koha-community.org just go missing in action?
22:33 cait         mtompset: yep
22:32 wizzyrea     that would probably be good.
22:32 mtompset     I think I'll tweak the Ubuntu instructions further in that specific area.
22:31 mtompset     Quite possibly, eythian. And you validly grump.
22:30 * mtompset   laughs.
22:30 eythian      if he's following the advice everyone gave when someone was asking something similar on the list the other day, he's probably disabled the default site, because people who don't understand how apache works keep giving advice about how to configure it. </grump>
22:30 mtompset     Greetings, tcohen cait. Enjoying KohaCon?
22:26 wizzyrea     koha's not gone, just you can't see it anymore.
22:26 wizzyrea     and/or subsumes the koha ones with the drupal ones.
22:25 wizzyrea     installing drupal probably wipes out your apache configs
22:20 mtompset     When you say revert, do you mean "git reset --hard"?
22:18 mtompset     Because that connect looks like it is maintained by people at BibLibre.
22:17 mtompset     What do you mean "wipes the server"?
22:17 mtompset     wipes the server?!
22:16 wai          it wipes the server so we have to revert back to it, i think we may be missing something that needs to be done
22:15 mtompset     So, if you don't use it, you can search your OPAC just fine then?
22:14 mtompset     Okay... I'm back... Ubuntu.
22:13 wizzyrea     define "shut down"
22:11 wai          yes. but everytime we try to use it. it shuts down our koha server
22:11 wizzyrea     https://drupal.org/project/koha_connector < is this what you're trying to use?
22:03 wai          we are using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
22:01 wai          sorry im back
21:53 wizzyrea     yep
21:52 mtompset     wizzyrea: But you can't use it immediately on a fresh install, until the databases are created/filled by the web installation step.
21:51 mtompset     wai: Or three? ;)
21:50 wizzyrea     it's installed
21:48 wai          just a minute
21:46 mtompset     So, which linux are you using?
21:45 mtompset     -- side note: OPAC is installed when Koha is installed, but there is a web installation step after the command line set up. And your OPAC won't be available until after the web installation is completed.
21:44 mtompset     Which linux?
21:44 mtompset     Let's start at the beginning.
21:44 wai          Linux
21:44 wai          i think so. The big quetion. Is OPAC installed when Koha is installed or do you install it seperately
21:43 mtompset     What OS are you using?
21:43 mtompset     Are you able to use OPAC normally already?
21:42 mtompset     I know nothing of that.
21:42 wai          what is the koha connector?
21:40 wai          ok
21:40 mtompset     But I can help you make sure your koha is fully installed.
21:39 mtompset     Okay... I can't help you connect OPAC to drupal.
21:37 wai          i have installed koha and drupal 7. But we are trying to figure out how to install OPAC to connect koha to drupal 7?
21:35 mtompset     wai: Are you still here?
21:34 mtompset     wai, what have you done so far?
21:21 wai          need help installing OPAC with koha 3.10
21:03 magnuse      have fun #koha!
21:00 magnuse      nah...
21:00 * magnuse    feels sorry for all the poor people in reno, running around, trying to find each other
20:48 magnuse      cait-m: did you hook up with tcohen? he was here for 3 minutes, about half an hour ago
20:44 wahanui      hola, eythian
20:44 eythian      hi
20:09 cait-m       :)
20:08 wizzyrea     it is so weird having you all on pacific time.
20:06 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 27.8°C (3:06 PM CDT on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
20:06 druthb       @wunder 77098
20:06 huginn       cait-m: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 13.3°C (1:00 PM PDT on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
20:06 cait-m       @wunder reno, nevada
20:04 cait-m       waves
18:55 cait         found him on twitter :)
18:53 cait         yeah, i will figure out something
18:52 mtompset     Well, seeing as his last update is october 11, I don't think he is either. :)
18:49 cait         i am not on facebook
18:48 mtompset     Did you try facebook'ing him?
18:48 mtompset     Haven't seen him.
18:48 cait         was trying to catch him for lunch
18:47 cait         not sure if he is following me on twitter
18:47 cait         yeah was hoping tcohen would be here
18:47 mtompset     It's been rather uneventful today, cait. :)
18:38 wahanui      somebody said logs was http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
18:38 cait         logs?
18:37 * cait       waves
18:27 mtompset     I know too many shortforms, hence the need for clarification. :)
18:26 gmcharlt     primary key
18:26 mtompset     PK?
17:53 maximep      but is happy that reserve now has a PK :D
17:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , multiple holds per title
17:52 * maximep    is sad that I didn't have time to help push bug 7710 for 3.14 :/
17:46 yhager       Is there a way to send email to patrons from the staff client?
17:26 mtompset     awesome like pi? ;)
17:23 reiveune     bye
17:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
17:22 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth
17:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1449: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1449/
17:19 magnuse      dbic and new theme - 3.14 is going to be awesome!
17:14 mtompset     Thanks, gmcharlt. :)
16:26 gaetan_B     bye !
16:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
16:17 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth
16:17 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #154: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/154/
15:35 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f5dc609e0d94e804869b5994ba2b19bc97980ac>
15:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #1449 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #154 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:28 kivilahtio   good evening paul_p
15:12 mtompset     Greetings, paul_p. Enjoy breakfast. :)
15:01 paul_p       heading to breakfast in a few seconds...
15:01 paul_p       good morning #koha !
14:50 mtompset     But that means the log file still gets a silent warning then, right? :(
14:49 gmcharlt     yes
14:48 mtompset     Is this so that if the preference is undefined, the "" is still set?
14:48 mtompset     I've also noticed some strange code: "" . C4::Context->preference("opacbookbag")
14:43 mtompset     Thank you, gmcharlt cait. :)
14:41 mtompset     okay. Now I know how to properly rebase my login patch. :)
14:40 mtompset     Which is an ugly hack.
14:40 gmcharlt     indeed, that is so
14:39 cait         i think
14:39 cait         so for those things often Auth.pm was used
14:39 cait         or in a lot of places
14:39 cait         the problem with some of those like suggestion is that you have to export in every script - because it shows up in the toolbar
14:38 gmcharlt     or be checked in the template itself using the plugin that cait just mentioned
14:38 cait         i think oleonardmight have moved some things that way
14:38 gmcharlt     the idea is that it not be exported by default, and that it either gets exported by one of the approriate scripts
14:38 cait         there is a new template toolkit plugin now you can use to check system preferences
14:37 mtompset     So is the suggestion system preference removed, or just not exported?
14:36 mtompset     I was noticing that suggestion was removed.
14:35 gmcharlt     one of the things that C4::Auth does that probably should be moved elsewhere
14:35 gmcharlt     yes, part of that patch includes fiddling with the system preferences that are exported by default to the template
14:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
14:34 mtompset     And is that related to bug 10309?
14:34 mtompset     Does that really touch Auth.pm?
14:34 mtompset     commit eb92d94be1fab85001357b9a436f1577aa0db089
14:33 gmcharlt     hmm?
14:33 mtompset     May I ask you a question, gmcharlt?
14:33 mtompset     It's handy frequently though. :)
14:33 gmcharlt     tab completion: YOU HAVE FAILED ME ;)
14:33 mtompset     not a problem. :)
14:33 gmcharlt     er, hi mtompset
14:33 gmcharlt     hi magnuse
14:32 mtompset     Greetings, gmcharlt.
14:32 gmcharlt     bgkriegel++
14:19 maximep      oh how I wish I was -_-
14:18 mtompset     I'm assuming some of you are at the KohaCon now?
14:17 nengard      hiya
14:15 cait         hi nengard
14:09 nengard      morning
14:07 mtompset     Greetings, maximep nengard. :)
13:58 Shane-S      never mind, it seems typing that incremented the field automatically
13:56 Shane-S      otherwise I have to wait till I am back at my office to SSH into MySQL
13:56 Shane-S      okay changing 1 -> 1001 made code39 look nice, is there any way to increment the DB via the gui?
13:50 Shane-S      is code39 supposed to be really blocky and wide with single digit barcodes?
13:50 mtompset     But we are now happily limping along, until we get our new QA system signed off, and then we'll move Live to the same host provider.
13:49 mtompset     I also discovered you have to put the -d foobar before -f instancename, in order to trigger it that way.
13:47 mtompset     I also found some configuration issues in the koha-conf.xml
13:47 mtompset     I put TMPDIR into /etc/environment and rebooted.
13:47 mtompset     Yes.
13:47 ebegin       Hey mtompset ! Did you solve your indexing problem ?
13:43 mtompset     Greetings, ebegin.
13:31 cait         then the sequence must fit together and youwould see if entered correctly
13:30 cait         if you want to know the columns, you could do a report: select * from creator_templates
13:30 Shane-S      Gives me values to input at least
13:30 Shane-S      cait: TY better then nothing :)
13:29 cait         i think line 24 but not sure it will be helfpul
13:29 cait         http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_creator_data.sql;h=91d7d006e6ac90b9e4405ffdcd8f21dd4666962b;hb=5e8abb1191f3076ed006dc4f10472ddf5a760291
13:29 cait         Shane-S: bit hard to read
13:28 magnuse      guten morgen again cait :-)
13:28 Shane-S      ty
13:28 cait         maybe you can read that
13:28 cait         hm let me find the file for you
13:27 Shane-S      cait: hmm..I don't have access atm, anyone know the Avery 5160 template settings? or can link to them?
13:27 cait         and good morning everyone :)
13:27 cait         there is just not a built in way in Koha
13:27 cait         Shane-S: the files are just SQL - you can do it on command line or using mysql workbench or similar if you want a gui
13:26 mtompset     I've never used them, so I don't know. Sorry. :(
13:26 cait         Shane-S: only using mysql directly
13:25 Shane-S      quick question, can I load label templates after the fact of initial setup
13:24 mtompset     Why is there any Auth.pm stuff in there?
13:24 mtompset     I'm confused by commit eb92d94be1fab85001357b9a436f1577aa0db089..
13:21 mtompset     Is it possible to have a commit for a bug with patches that aren't attached to bugzilla?
13:10 druthb       "There Is More Than One Way To Do It."  One of the core philosophies of the Perl community.  (It's also the online handle—TimToady—of the author of Perl, Larry Wall)
13:09 mtompset     Yes, what is that?!
13:08 druthb       TIMTOWTDI?
13:07 mtompset     Okay, I didn't get that.
13:07 druthb       TIMTOWTDI, of course.  my git-fu is not *that* great, but I manage.
13:06 mtompset     Hmm... okay... I'll try that.
13:06 mtompset     How do I know what patch it is.
13:06 druthb       git on 3.12.05, and do a git log <filename>, and get the hash of the patch at that point, then go to master, and git log <filename> and look at patches since then.
13:06 mtompset     I see a line in "git log -p"
13:06 mtompset     -        suggestion           => C4::Context->preference("suggestion"),
13:04 mtompset     How is your git-fu? I'm trying to figure out what bug/patch removed the suggestion line from C4/Auth.pm around line 900-1100. It's still in 3.12.05, but isn't in master.
13:03 druthb       :)  hi, mtompset. :)
13:03 mtompset     Greetings, druthb.
12:55 druthb       o/
10:30 huginn       mtompset: The operation succeeded.
10:30 mtompset     @later tell rambutan Thanks for the link. Thankfully, my mother-in-law is here in Canada visiting, so no worries. :)
10:26 magnuse      hm, not off the top of my head...
10:25 mtompset     Do you have an idea on how to hunt down what patch removed a line?
10:24 mtompset     greetings, magnuse.
10:24 magnuse      hiya mtompset
10:24 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
10:17 cait         since sunday night
10:17 cait         yp
10:17 drojf        are you in reno already?
10:17 drojf        hi cait :)
10:17 * cait       waves at drojf
09:41 magnuse      hehe
09:41 wahanui      sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;)
09:41 magnuse      sounds like it
09:40 cait         yeah, guess i am still jet lagged
09:39 magnuse      yeah, it's almost lunchtime, y'know ;-)
09:39 cait         well should be sleeping but kept waking up
09:39 cait         i am not here ;)
09:39 cait         hi magnuse
09:39 magnuse      guten morgen cait!
09:28 * magnuse    too
09:15 drojf        nice. i am so jealous
09:15 magnuse      guess it all starts in a little more than 24 hours
09:15 magnuse      it is
09:12 drojf        ah it's kohacon arrival day already? :)
09:11 drojf        hi magnuse
09:09 magnuse      moin drojf
09:08 drojf        hi #koha
08:52 magnuse      oleonard++ a million times for the new design
08:52 magnuse      cool
08:50 Herwig       did work thx magnuse :)
08:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
08:45 magnuse      woohoo for bug 10309 being pushed
08:44 magnuse      yup AllowOnShelfHolds
08:44 magnuse      i *think* it's something like AllowOnShelfHolds
08:44 Herwig       gonna search for it
08:44 Herwig       aha
08:43 magnuse      there is a syspref that let's you decide if it should be possible to place holds on items that are not on loan
08:43 magnuse      Herwig: yay!
08:39 Herwig       i wanna do one of the future Hackfests ... hope i get there one day
08:36 Herwig       bit far for me (i found what was wrong with cannot place hold ... the item was not checked out ... i was thinking that you could put things on hold that where in the library also)
08:31 magnuse      well, in a little more than 24 hours
08:31 magnuse      Herwig: yup, guess it starts tomorrow
08:28 Herwig       KohaCon 13 in the starting blocks ? :)
07:37 Herwig       Annyone had - Cannot place hold - No copies are available to be placed on hold - before ?
07:34 Herwig       Morning
07:34 magnuse      yeah, that will be a great day!
07:31 gaetan_B     i am looking forward to the library that will say "well no, we're not using marc" :)
07:31 magnuse      yup
07:31 gaetan_B     magnuse: let's hope this works out, that would be great :)
07:23 magnuse      at the moment there are no public libraries in norway using koha. there might be one that is interested in using koha with rdf. i can't really say much more at the moment. ;-)
07:22 magnuse      gaetan_B: all good!
07:22 gaetan_B     i have heard there's a public library in Oslo that is using Koha with rdf... Could it be that you are behing this ?
07:22 gaetan_B     hi magnuse, everything's fine ?
07:14 magnuse      bonjour gaetan_B
07:06 gaetan_B     hello
06:42 reiveune     hello magnuse, and everybody :)
06:41 magnuse      bonjour reiveune
06:41 magnuse      heh
06:41 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (3:00 AM ART on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
06:41 magnuse      @wunder cordoba, argentina
06:41 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
06:41 magnuse      @wunder marseille
06:41 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 4.8°C (11:30 PM PDT on October 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
06:41 magnuse      @wunder reno, nv
06:41 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
06:40 magnuse      @wunder boo
06:40 magnuse      bonjour alex_a
06:39 wahanui      que tal, alex_a
06:39 alex_a       hello
06:24 * magnuse    waves and cheers for dbic
05:38 WaylonR      thanks!
05:37 mtj__        but, me REALLY gotta go now
05:37 mtj__        patch does apply clean :)
05:36 mtj__        ah, sorry - my mistake....
05:29 WaylonR      fatal: bad object 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb
05:29 WaylonR      git show 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb
05:29 WaylonR      don't have that commit.
05:29 WaylonR      hmm?
05:28 mtj__        to commit 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb
05:27 mtj__        WaylonR: , just a quicky - your patch doesnt apply clean
05:24 mtj__        i should be on irc tomorrow, tho
05:24 mtj__        WaylonR, i've got to head off now, sorry...
05:22 eythian      it would be interesting.
05:22 mtj__        ...to try and spot what has got faster and slower, with every new release
05:21 mtj__        eythian: i've always thought it would be interesting to come up with some basic NYTProf tests, and run them on historical koha releases
05:19 WaylonR      need someone to have a look at it, and need help with a test plan... just brought it forward to master.
05:19 mtj__        hiya wajasu, WaylonR
05:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
05:19 WaylonR      bug 9055
05:19 WaylonR      hiya all. Okay!
05:17 eythian      ah right
05:17 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class
05:17 wajasu       bug 8798
05:16 eythian      DBIC?
05:16 wajasu       congrats on the DBIC work.
05:16 eythian      I might email the list, see what others say
05:15 eythian      it's more to make sure your database handle is still active.
05:15 eythian      I'd expect so
05:15 mtj__        curious... do the ping calls still happen on a local box?
05:14 eythian      I could remove the ping call, but anything long-running would still have issues.
05:14 eythian      I don't know how to resolve that
05:11 eythian      !!
05:11 eythian      > # spent 1.36s making 1422 calls to DBI::db::ping, avg 955µs/call
05:10 eythian      jikes
05:10 eythian      > # spent 291ms making 295 calls to C4::Context::dbh, avg 987µs/call
05:10 eythian      cheers
05:10 mtj__        eythian: ill take a look at a signoff later tonite :)
05:09 eythian      it's not fast _and_ it's called 295 times
05:09 eythian      > # spent 782ms (16.8+765) within C4::Biblio::GetAuthorisedValueDesc which was called 295 times, avg 2.65ms/call:
05:09 eythian      GetAuthorisedValueDesc is the next big one.
05:08 eythian      actually, caching transformMARCXML4XSLT isn't helpful as it is likely to have different parameters for each call.
05:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search
05:07 eythian      mtj__: added a patch to bug 11051 if you're keen to have a look.
05:05 eythian      yeah, but memcached is local, so this is even worse for ones where the database is local
05:03 mtj__        and your koha is talking to a db on another server, too
05:00 eythian      yeah
05:00 mtj__        memoize is using memcached, yeah?
04:59 eythian      it is, though it's easy to treat caching as a magic bullet however it has its own overheads too.
04:58 mtj__        wow, thats really surprising
04:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search
04:57 eythian      mtj__: I'm making notes on bug 11051
04:57 mtj__        ta, looking now...
04:54 eythian      mtj__: ^
04:54 eythian      that's the URL I meant first
04:54 eythian      http://debian.koha-community.org/~robin/opac-search/usr-share-koha-lib-C4-XSLT-pm-1282-line.html#75
04:53 eythian      oh, I sent you a file:// url
04:51 eythian      it does a lot of stuff that might benefit.
04:51 eythian      I'm wondering if caching transformMARCXML4XSLT should be cached.
04:47 eythian      it's quite probably the serialisation being slow.
04:46 mtj__        yow, thats a bit fishy...
04:46 eythian      yeah
04:45 mtj__        line 78
04:45 mtj__        is that the slow bit of the caching example? ^^
04:44 mtj__        # spent 1.60s making 25 calls to Memoize::__ANON__[(eval 1015)[Memoize.pm:73]:1], avg 64.1ms/call
04:43 eythian      it's the call to GetMarcStructure which is cached.
04:43 eythian      the second one being cached
04:42 eythian      to this: http://debian.koha-community.org/~robin/opac-search-cached/nytprof/usr-share-koha-lib-C4-XSLT-pm-1320-line.html#75
04:42 eythian      compare this: file:///tmp/nytprof/usr-share-koha-lib-C4-XSLT-pm-1282-line.html#75
04:42 eythian      I don't exactly know
04:41 mtj__        wow, how come it takes longer with caching O_o?
04:41 eythian      hi
04:41 mtj__        heya eythian
04:37 eythian      (across its 25 calls)
04:36 eythian      so with caching on, transformMARCXML4XSLT takes about 1 second _longer_ to run.
03:36 wizzyrea     gnite :)
03:34 cait         bye all :)
03:34 cait         ok, guess i have to sleep :)
03:21 cait         yeah
03:20 wizzyrea     i mean 15 minutes in the workshop - I probably do have time to make some sample vendors and stick them in. :)
03:20 cait         and not sure hte german does currently, but it could
03:20 cait         currencies we do have - just the english don't set the active one
03:20 wizzyrea     is more time than I have :)
03:20 wizzyrea     yea
03:19 cait         sample vendors should be not too hard
03:19 wizzyrea     and 15 minutes spent setting up a budget, vendor, currency, basket, etc.
03:19 cait         yeah i know
03:19 wizzyrea     i only whinge about it because I'm trying to find things we can actually fix within 60-90 minutes
03:18 wizzyrea     sample vendors.
03:17 cait         hm you could do something like now + x
03:17 cait         yeah, but they have a start and an end date too
03:17 wizzyrea     at LEAST sample budgets.
03:16 cait         and having dates
03:16 cait         s
03:16 cait         lots of dependencie
03:16 cait         it's not so easy to provie
03:15 wizzyrea     i so wish we had sample data for acquisitions.
03:15 cait         when opening a basket andon the summary
03:15 cait         like make it possible to hide deliveryand billing place
03:14 wizzyrea     ooo
03:14 cait         acq
03:14 wizzyrea     othername, specifically, doesn't have an id
03:14 cait         liw: oh, i have another
03:14 cait         i think we did improve it a bit already
03:13 cait         ah right
03:07 wizzyrea     so yea, you might find yourself in a proper situation where it's easier to hide that than destroy the data (or you might want to keep the data but just not show it?)
03:07 wizzyrea     if you *have data* in your borrower for a hidden field, the interface will still show it even if you can't input or edit the data.
03:06 wizzyrea     oh here's the thing
03:06 wizzyrea     all great :)
03:05 cait         just trying to think of things i hid recently with jquery :)
03:05 cait         that i am not sure if they are functional yet
03:05 cait         oh and hm, if you create a new list and have sharing lists off, there are still some optionsfor sharing
03:04 wizzyrea     nm it's working
03:04 wizzyrea     well don't put any spaces before or after your pipes, silly.
03:02 wizzyrea     in fact, it seems like borrowerunwanted isn't working at all...
02:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages
02:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
02:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser
02:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff
02:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha
02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) apply another follow-up for 10856, improve shelf browser
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Markup fix from Bug 10566 follow-up
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Add changes from Bug 8712, "and" labels in advanced search
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Update for Bug 10856, improve shelf browser
02:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (Follow-up) Applying changes from Bug 10349
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Updates for Bug 6594, Schema.org structured data
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309 - New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
02:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1448: SUCCESS in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1448/
02:56 cait         i mean you could get past it
02:56 cait         also i had a request recently form a library to hide columns and lines in the messaging table so the users can't change some - but css is not really save there.
02:55 cait         it doesn't cover for the detail page yet
02:55 wizzyrea     but good idea
02:55 cait         yeah a bit
02:55 wizzyrea     hm that sounds more like a problem with borrowerunwanted
02:55 cait         like we hid some fields with borrowerunwanted... but they still showed up there
02:55 cait         on the members detai page - maybe take a look if it's easy to get rid of some of the lines, i think i had to resort to js there in the past
02:55 wizzyrea     is ok if you can't
02:54 cait         hmm
02:53 wizzyrea     cait - can you think of an area that needs id's and such that doesn't currently have them
02:52 kathryn      :D
02:52 cait         i hope so :)
02:52 kathryn      one day!
02:51 cait         woudl have been nice to meet you :)
02:51 cait         hm i might agree with that
02:51 kathryn      I seriously arrived on the job a year too late!
02:50 cait         and i ate some pretty yummy things in nz :)
02:50 cait         i like baking
02:50 cait         it's probably going what i will start with
02:50 eythian      Well duh
02:50 cait         :)
02:49 kathryn      cait: ask any kiwi what they like in it and they'll tell you. It will be baked goods.
02:49 eythian      You'll be feeding your workmates traditional New Zealand food from now on, I guess :)
02:48 * cait       hasn't done anything!
02:48 cait         I really love it
02:48 kathryn      thank YOU!
02:48 kathryn      hehe you're welcome!
02:48 cait         I only wanted to say thank you :)
02:48 cait         :)
02:48 kathryn      hello cait :)
02:39 cait         ah alright
02:39 eythian      cait: she is, but she's talking to people
02:39 cait         eythian: is kathryn around?
02:38 eythian      that really adds up
02:38 eythian      # spent 289ms making 295 calls to C4::Context::dbh, avg 980µs/call
02:25 rangi        yay eythian !
02:24 cait         kathryn: thanks a lot for the present - it was totally unexpected and i love it :)
02:23 eythian      That one patch there should get rid of around 200 of them.
02:23 cait         ah right
02:19 eythian      it can take ~8 seconds to run a search on our servers, because there's far too many database requests.
02:19 cait         :)
02:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search
02:19 eythian      if anyone's interested, I'm tackling some low-hanging performance issues on bug 11051. There will hopefully be some easy sign-offs on there :)
02:17 cait         hmjust not seeing my typo then
02:17 wahanui      wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
02:17 cait         wiki?
01:29 huginn       rambutan: The operation succeeded.
01:29 rambutan     @later tell mtompset http://x2t.com/3/ph
01:23 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha
01:23 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #153: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/153/
01:22 eythian      I'm starting with optimising GetBranches and working my way down, I think.
01:21 eythian      No, it's coming from inside the db stuff I think.
01:21 jcamins      Oh, it's not a direct call.
01:21 jcamins      Isn't ping supposed to be unnecessary?
01:16 eythian      http://debian.koha-community.org/~robin/nytprof/ <-- running NYTProf on opac-search.pl with a remote database (so, higher latency.) I'm going to spend the day seeing if I can fix up one or two of the worst cases here.
01:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1448 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
01:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class
01:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10096 new feature, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add a Z39.50 interface for authority searching
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8798: (follow-up) remove DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10096: (follow-up) fix typo introduced in previous followup
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) ensure that new patron_lists/ CGI directory is installed
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) improve navigation aids
01:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15065 was not found.
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) add new user permission for patron list management
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) make add list/edit list labels sensitive to context
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) use datatables.inc
01:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10565 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 15065: (follow-up) update license header
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) refresh DBIC schema class files
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: DBrev 3.13.00.031
01:07 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10565: (follow-up) don't assume borrowernumber 1 exists in unit test
01:07 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10565: Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons
01:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1447: FIXED in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1447/
01:07 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
00:35 wizzyrea     zowie
00:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #153 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages
00:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
00:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser
00:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff
00:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
00:35 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) apply another follow-up for 10856, improve shelf browser
00:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Markup fix from Bug 10566 follow-up
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Add changes from Bug 8712, "and" labels in advanced search
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Update for Bug 10856, improve shelf browser
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (Follow-up) Applying changes from Bug 10349
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Updates for Bug 6594, Schema.org structured data
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309 - New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
00:35 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #152: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/152/
00:17 cjh          have fun!
00:16 BobB         away now to KohaCon13 - yay!
00:09 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e8abb1191f3076ed006dc4f10472ddf5a760291>