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00:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e8abb1191f3076ed006dc4f10472ddf5a760291>
00:16 BobB away now to KohaCon13 - yay!
00:17 cjh have fun!
00:35 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #152: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/152/
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309 - New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Updates for Bug 6594, Schema.org structured data
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (Follow-up) Applying changes from Bug 10349
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Update for Bug 10856, improve shelf browser
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Add changes from Bug 8712, "and" labels in advanced search
00:35 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Markup fix from Bug 10566 follow-up
00:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
00:35 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) apply another follow-up for 10856, improve shelf browser
00:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
00:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff
00:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser
00:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
00:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages
00:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #153 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:35 wizzyrea zowie
01:07 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
01:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1447: FIXED in 1 hr 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1447/
01:07 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10565: Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons
01:07 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10565: (follow-up) don't assume borrowernumber 1 exists in unit test
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: DBrev 3.13.00.031
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) refresh DBIC schema class files
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 15065: (follow-up) update license header
01:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10565 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add a "Patron List" feature for storing and manipulating collections of patrons
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) use datatables.inc
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) make add list/edit list labels sensitive to context
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) add new user permission for patron list management
01:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15065 was not found.
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) improve navigation aids
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10565: (follow-up) ensure that new patron_lists/ CGI directory is installed
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10096: (follow-up) fix typo introduced in previous followup
01:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8798: (follow-up) remove DBIC_DONT_VALIDATE_RELS
01:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10096 new feature, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add a Z39.50 interface for authority searching
01:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class
01:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1448 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
01:16 eythian http://debian.koha-community.org/~robin/nytprof/ <-- running NYTProf on opac-search.pl with a remote database (so, higher latency.) I'm going to spend the day seeing if I can fix up one or two of the worst cases here.
01:21 jcamins Isn't ping supposed to be unnecessary?
01:21 jcamins Oh, it's not a direct call.
01:21 eythian No, it's coming from inside the db stuff I think.
01:22 eythian I'm starting with optimising GetBranches and working my way down, I think.
01:23 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #153: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/153/
01:23 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha
01:29 rambutan @later tell mtompset http://x2t.com/3/ph
01:29 huginn rambutan: The operation succeeded.
02:17 cait wiki?
02:17 wahanui wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
02:17 cait hmjust not seeing my typo then
02:19 eythian if anyone's interested, I'm tackling some low-hanging performance issues on bug 11051. There will hopefully be some easy sign-offs on there :)
02:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search
02:19 cait :)
02:19 eythian it can take ~8 seconds to run a search on our servers, because there's far too many database requests.
02:23 cait ah right
02:23 eythian That one patch there should get rid of around 200 of them.
02:24 cait kathryn: thanks a lot for the present - it was totally unexpected and i love it :)
02:25 rangi yay eythian !
02:38 eythian # spent 289ms making 295 calls to C4::Context::dbh, avg 980µs/call
02:38 eythian that really adds up
02:39 cait eythian: is kathryn around?
02:39 eythian cait: she is, but she's talking to people
02:39 cait ah alright
02:48 kathryn hello cait :)
02:48 cait :)
02:48 cait I only wanted to say thank you :)
02:48 kathryn hehe you're welcome!
02:48 kathryn thank YOU!
02:48 cait I really love it
02:48 * cait hasn't done anything!
02:49 eythian You'll be feeding your workmates traditional New Zealand food from now on, I guess :)
02:49 kathryn cait: ask any kiwi what they like in it and they'll tell you. It will be baked goods.
02:50 cait :)
02:50 eythian Well duh
02:50 cait it's probably going what i will start with
02:50 cait i like baking
02:50 cait and i ate some pretty yummy things in nz :)
02:51 kathryn I seriously arrived on the job a year too late!
02:51 cait hm i might agree with that
02:51 cait woudl have been nice to meet you :)
02:52 kathryn one day!
02:52 cait i hope so :)
02:52 kathryn :D
02:53 wizzyrea cait - can you think of an area that needs id's and such that doesn't currently have them
02:54 cait hmm
02:55 wizzyrea is ok if you can't
02:55 cait on the members detai page - maybe take a look if it's easy to get rid of some of the lines, i think i had to resort to js there in the past
02:55 cait like we hid some fields with borrowerunwanted... but they still showed up there
02:55 wizzyrea hm that sounds more like a problem with borrowerunwanted
02:55 cait yeah a bit
02:55 wizzyrea but good idea
02:55 cait it doesn't cover for the detail page yet
02:56 cait also i had a request recently form a library to hide columns and lines in the messaging table so the users can't change some - but css is not really save there.
02:56 cait i mean you could get past it
02:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1448: SUCCESS in 1 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1448/
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309 - New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Updates for Bug 6594, Schema.org structured data
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (Follow-up) Applying changes from Bug 10349
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Update for Bug 10856, improve shelf browser
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Add changes from Bug 8712, "and" labels in advanced search
02:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10309: (follow-up) Markup fix from Bug 10566 follow-up
02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) apply another follow-up for 10856, improve shelf browser
02:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: start 3.14 release notes -- first alpha
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add schema.org microdata
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10856 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Improve the previous and next items on the shelf browser
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
02:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OPAC course reserves pages
03:02 wizzyrea in fact, it seems like borrowerunwanted isn't working at all...
03:04 wizzyrea well don't put any spaces before or after your pipes, silly.
03:04 wizzyrea nm it's working
03:05 cait oh and hm, if you create a new list and have sharing lists off, there are still some optionsfor sharing
03:05 cait that i am not sure if they are functional yet
03:05 cait just trying to think of things i hid recently with jquery :)
03:06 wizzyrea all great :)
03:06 wizzyrea oh here's the thing
03:07 wizzyrea if you *have data* in your borrower for a hidden field, the interface will still show it even if you can't input or edit the data.
03:07 wizzyrea so yea, you might find yourself in a proper situation where it's easier to hide that than destroy the data (or you might want to keep the data but just not show it?)
03:13 cait ah right
03:14 cait i think we did improve it a bit already
03:14 cait liw: oh, i have another
03:14 wizzyrea othername, specifically, doesn't have an id
03:14 cait acq
03:14 wizzyrea ooo
03:15 cait like make it possible to hide deliveryand billing place
03:15 cait when opening a basket andon the summary
03:15 wizzyrea i so wish we had sample data for acquisitions.
03:16 cait it's not so easy to provie
03:16 cait lots of dependencie
03:16 cait s
03:16 cait and having dates
03:17 wizzyrea at LEAST sample budgets.
03:17 cait yeah, but they have a start and an end date too
03:17 cait hm you could do something like now + x
03:18 wizzyrea sample vendors.
03:19 wizzyrea i only whinge about it because I'm trying to find things we can actually fix within 60-90 minutes
03:19 cait yeah i know
03:19 wizzyrea and 15 minutes spent setting up a budget, vendor, currency, basket, etc.
03:19 cait sample vendors should be not too hard
03:20 wizzyrea yea
03:20 wizzyrea is more time than I have :)
03:20 cait currencies we do have - just the english don't set the active one
03:20 cait and not sure hte german does currently, but it could
03:20 wizzyrea i mean 15 minutes in the workshop - I probably do have time to make some sample vendors and stick them in. :)
03:21 cait yeah
03:34 cait ok, guess i have to sleep :)
03:34 cait bye all :)
03:36 wizzyrea gnite :)
04:36 eythian so with caching on, transformMARCXML4XSLT takes about 1 second _longer_ to run.
04:37 eythian (across its 25 calls)
04:41 mtj__ heya eythian
04:41 eythian hi
04:41 mtj__ wow, how come it takes longer with caching O_o?
04:42 eythian I don't exactly know
04:42 eythian compare this: file:///tmp/nytprof/usr-share-koha-lib-C4-XSLT-pm-1282-line.html#75
04:42 eythian to this: http://debian.koha-community.org/~robin/opac-search-cached/nytprof/usr-share-koha-lib-C4-XSLT-pm-1320-line.html#75
04:43 eythian the second one being cached
04:43 eythian it's the call to GetMarcStructure which is cached.
04:44 mtj__ # spent 1.60s making 25 calls to Memoize::__ANON__[(eval 1015)[Memoize.pm:73]:1], avg 64.1ms/call
04:45 mtj__ is that the slow bit of the caching example? ^^
04:45 mtj__ line 78
04:46 eythian yeah
04:46 mtj__ yow, thats a bit fishy...
04:47 eythian it's quite probably the serialisation being slow.
04:51 eythian I'm wondering if caching transformMARCXML4XSLT should be cached.
04:51 eythian it does a lot of stuff that might benefit.
04:53 eythian oh, I sent you a file:// url
04:54 eythian http://debian.koha-community.org/~robin/opac-search/usr-share-koha-lib-C4-XSLT-pm-1282-line.html#75
04:54 eythian that's the URL I meant first
04:54 eythian mtj__: ^
04:57 mtj__ ta, looking now...
04:57 eythian mtj__: I'm making notes on bug 11051
04:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search
04:58 mtj__ wow, thats really surprising
04:59 eythian it is, though it's easy to treat caching as a magic bullet however it has its own overheads too.
05:00 mtj__ memoize is using memcached, yeah?
05:00 eythian yeah
05:03 mtj__ and your koha is talking to a db on another server, too
05:05 eythian yeah, but memcached is local, so this is even worse for ones where the database is local
05:07 eythian mtj__: added a patch to bug 11051 if you're keen to have a look.
05:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11051 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Performance of opac-search
05:08 eythian actually, caching transformMARCXML4XSLT isn't helpful as it is likely to have different parameters for each call.
05:09 eythian GetAuthorisedValueDesc is the next big one.
05:09 eythian > # spent 782ms (16.8+765) within C4::Biblio::GetAuthorisedValueDesc which was called 295 times, avg 2.65ms/call:
05:09 eythian it's not fast _and_ it's called 295 times
05:10 mtj__ eythian: ill take a look at a signoff later tonite :)
05:10 eythian cheers
05:10 eythian > # spent 291ms making 295 calls to C4::Context::dbh, avg 987µs/call
05:10 eythian jikes
05:11 eythian > # spent 1.36s making 1422 calls to DBI::db::ping, avg 955µs/call
05:11 eythian !!
05:14 eythian I don't know how to resolve that
05:14 eythian I could remove the ping call, but anything long-running would still have issues.
05:15 mtj__ curious... do the ping calls still happen on a local box?
05:15 eythian I'd expect so
05:15 eythian it's more to make sure your database handle is still active.
05:16 eythian I might email the list, see what others say
05:16 wajasu congrats on the DBIC work.
05:16 eythian DBIC?
05:17 wajasu bug 8798
05:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , Add the use of DBIx::Class
05:17 eythian ah right
05:19 WaylonR hiya all. Okay!
05:19 WaylonR bug 9055
05:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod
05:19 mtj__ hiya wajasu, WaylonR
05:19 WaylonR need someone to have a look at it, and need help with a test plan... just brought it forward to master.
05:21 mtj__ eythian: i've always thought it would be interesting to come up with some basic NYTProf tests, and run them on historical koha releases
05:22 mtj__ ...to try and spot what has got faster and slower, with every new release
05:22 eythian it would be interesting.
05:24 mtj__ WaylonR, i've got to head off now, sorry...
05:24 mtj__ i should be on irc tomorrow, tho
05:27 mtj__ WaylonR: , just a quicky - your patch doesnt apply clean
05:28 mtj__ to commit 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb
05:29 WaylonR hmm?
05:29 WaylonR don't have that commit.
05:29 WaylonR git show 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb
05:29 WaylonR fatal: bad object 6f0a3f11b0b24af7b1a62399c0daace5c88887fb
05:36 mtj__ ah, sorry - my mistake....
05:37 mtj__ patch does apply clean :)
05:37 mtj__ but, me REALLY gotta go now
05:38 WaylonR thanks!
06:24 * magnuse waves and cheers for dbic
06:39 alex_a hello
06:39 wahanui que tal, alex_a
06:40 magnuse bonjour alex_a
06:40 magnuse @wunder boo
06:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
06:41 magnuse @wunder reno, nv
06:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 4.8°C (11:30 PM PDT on October 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
06:41 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 15.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
06:41 magnuse @wunder cordoba, argentina
06:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (3:00 AM ART on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
06:41 magnuse heh
06:41 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:42 reiveune hello magnuse, and everybody :)
07:06 gaetan_B hello
07:14 magnuse bonjour gaetan_B
07:22 gaetan_B hi magnuse, everything's fine ?
07:22 gaetan_B i have heard there's a public library in Oslo that is using Koha with rdf... Could it be that you are behing this ?
07:22 magnuse gaetan_B: all good!
07:23 magnuse at the moment there are no public libraries in norway using koha. there might be one that is interested in using koha with rdf. i can't really say much more at the moment. ;-)
07:31 gaetan_B magnuse: let's hope this works out, that would be great :)
07:31 magnuse yup
07:31 gaetan_B i am looking forward to the library that will say "well no, we're not using marc" :)
07:34 magnuse yeah, that will be a great day!
07:34 Herwig Morning
07:37 Herwig Annyone had - Cannot place hold - No copies are available to be placed on hold - before ?
08:28 Herwig KohaCon 13 in the starting blocks ? :)
08:31 magnuse Herwig: yup, guess it starts tomorrow
08:31 magnuse well, in a little more than 24 hours
08:36 Herwig bit far for me (i found what was wrong with cannot place hold ... the item was not checked out ... i was thinking that you could put things on hold that where in the library also)
08:39 Herwig i wanna do one of the future Hackfests ... hope i get there one day
08:43 magnuse Herwig: yay!
08:43 magnuse there is a syspref that let's you decide if it should be possible to place holds on items that are not on loan
08:44 Herwig aha
08:44 Herwig gonna search for it
08:44 magnuse i *think* it's something like AllowOnShelfHolds
08:44 magnuse yup AllowOnShelfHolds
08:45 magnuse woohoo for bug 10309 being pushed
08:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
08:50 Herwig did work thx magnuse :)
08:52 magnuse cool
08:52 magnuse oleonard++ a million times for the new design
09:08 drojf hi #koha
09:09 magnuse moin drojf
09:11 drojf hi magnuse
09:12 drojf ah it's kohacon arrival day already? :)
09:15 magnuse it is
09:15 magnuse guess it all starts in a little more than 24 hours
09:15 drojf nice. i am so jealous
09:28 * magnuse too
09:39 magnuse guten morgen cait!
09:39 cait hi magnuse
09:39 cait i am not here ;)
09:39 cait well should be sleeping but kept waking up
09:39 magnuse yeah, it's almost lunchtime, y'know ;-)
09:40 cait yeah, guess i am still jet lagged
09:41 magnuse sounds like it
09:41 wahanui sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;)
09:41 magnuse hehe
10:17 * cait waves at drojf
10:17 drojf hi cait :)
10:17 drojf are you in reno already?
10:17 cait yp
10:17 cait since sunday night
10:24 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
10:24 magnuse hiya mtompset
10:24 mtompset greetings, magnuse.
10:25 mtompset Do you have an idea on how to hunt down what patch removed a line?
10:26 magnuse hm, not off the top of my head...
10:30 mtompset @later tell rambutan Thanks for the link. Thankfully, my mother-in-law is here in Canada visiting, so no worries. :)
10:30 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
12:55 druthb o/
13:03 mtompset Greetings, druthb.
13:03 druthb :) hi, mtompset. :)
13:04 mtompset How is your git-fu? I'm trying to figure out what bug/patch removed the suggestion line from C4/Auth.pm around line 900-1100. It's still in 3.12.05, but isn't in master.
13:06 mtompset - suggestion => C4::Context->preference("suggestion"),
13:06 mtompset I see a line in "git log -p"
13:06 druthb git on 3.12.05, and do a git log <filename>, and get the hash of the patch at that point, then go to master, and git log <filename> and look at patches since then.
13:06 mtompset How do I know what patch it is.
13:06 mtompset Hmm... okay... I'll try that.
13:07 druthb TIMTOWTDI, of course. my git-fu is not *that* great, but I manage.
13:07 mtompset Okay, I didn't get that.
13:08 druthb TIMTOWTDI?
13:09 mtompset Yes, what is that?!
13:10 druthb "There Is More Than One Way To Do It." One of the core philosophies of the Perl community. (It's also the online handle—TimToady—of the author of Perl, Larry Wall)
13:21 mtompset Is it possible to have a commit for a bug with patches that aren't attached to bugzilla?
13:24 mtompset I'm confused by commit eb92d94be1fab85001357b9a436f1577aa0db089..
13:24 mtompset Why is there any Auth.pm stuff in there?
13:25 Shane-S quick question, can I load label templates after the fact of initial setup
13:26 cait Shane-S: only using mysql directly
13:26 mtompset I've never used them, so I don't know. Sorry. :(
13:27 cait Shane-S: the files are just SQL - you can do it on command line or using mysql workbench or similar if you want a gui
13:27 cait there is just not a built in way in Koha
13:27 cait and good morning everyone :)
13:27 Shane-S cait: hmm..I don't have access atm, anyone know the Avery 5160 template settings? or can link to them?
13:28 cait hm let me find the file for you
13:28 cait maybe you can read that
13:28 Shane-S ty
13:28 magnuse guten morgen again cait :-)
13:29 cait Shane-S: bit hard to read
13:29 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_creator_data.sql;h=91d7d006e6ac90b9e4405ffdcd8f21dd4666962b;hb=5e8abb1191f3076ed006dc4f10472ddf5a760291
13:29 cait i think line 24 but not sure it will be helfpul
13:30 Shane-S cait: TY better then nothing :)
13:30 Shane-S Gives me values to input at least
13:30 cait if you want to know the columns, you could do a report: select * from creator_templates
13:31 cait then the sequence must fit together and youwould see if entered correctly
13:43 mtompset Greetings, ebegin.
13:47 ebegin Hey mtompset ! Did you solve your indexing problem ?
13:47 mtompset Yes.
13:47 mtompset I put TMPDIR into /etc/environment and rebooted.
13:47 mtompset I also found some configuration issues in the koha-conf.xml
13:49 mtompset I also discovered you have to put the -d foobar before -f instancename, in order to trigger it that way.
13:50 mtompset But we are now happily limping along, until we get our new QA system signed off, and then we'll move Live to the same host provider.
13:50 Shane-S is code39 supposed to be really blocky and wide with single digit barcodes?
13:56 Shane-S okay changing 1 -> 1001 made code39 look nice, is there any way to increment the DB via the gui?
13:56 Shane-S otherwise I have to wait till I am back at my office to SSH into MySQL
13:58 Shane-S never mind, it seems typing that incremented the field automatically
14:07 mtompset Greetings, maximep nengard. :)
14:09 nengard morning
14:15 cait hi nengard
14:17 nengard hiya
14:18 mtompset I'm assuming some of you are at the KohaCon now?
14:19 maximep oh how I wish I was -_-
14:32 gmcharlt bgkriegel++
14:32 mtompset Greetings, gmcharlt.
14:33 gmcharlt hi magnuse
14:33 gmcharlt er, hi mtompset
14:33 mtompset not a problem. :)
14:33 gmcharlt tab completion: YOU HAVE FAILED ME ;)
14:33 mtompset It's handy frequently though. :)
14:33 mtompset May I ask you a question, gmcharlt?
14:33 gmcharlt hmm?
14:34 mtompset commit eb92d94be1fab85001357b9a436f1577aa0db089
14:34 mtompset Does that really touch Auth.pm?
14:34 mtompset And is that related to bug 10309?
14:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
14:35 gmcharlt yes, part of that patch includes fiddling with the system preferences that are exported by default to the template
14:35 gmcharlt one of the things that C4::Auth does that probably should be moved elsewhere
14:36 mtompset I was noticing that suggestion was removed.
14:37 mtompset So is the suggestion system preference removed, or just not exported?
14:38 cait there is a new template toolkit plugin now you can use to check system preferences
14:38 gmcharlt the idea is that it not be exported by default, and that it either gets exported by one of the approriate scripts
14:38 cait i think oleonardmight have moved some things that way
14:38 gmcharlt or be checked in the template itself using the plugin that cait just mentioned
14:39 cait the problem with some of those like suggestion is that you have to export in every script - because it shows up in the toolbar
14:39 cait or in a lot of places
14:39 cait so for those things often Auth.pm was used
14:39 cait i think
14:40 gmcharlt indeed, that is so
14:40 mtompset Which is an ugly hack.
14:41 mtompset okay. Now I know how to properly rebase my login patch. :)
14:43 mtompset Thank you, gmcharlt cait. :)
14:48 mtompset I've also noticed some strange code: "" . C4::Context->preference("opacbookbag")
14:48 mtompset Is this so that if the preference is undefined, the "" is still set?
14:49 gmcharlt yes
14:50 mtompset But that means the log file still gets a silent warning then, right? :(
15:01 paul_p good morning #koha !
15:01 paul_p heading to breakfast in a few seconds...
15:12 mtompset Greetings, paul_p. Enjoy breakfast. :)
15:28 kivilahtio good evening paul_p
15:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #154 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #1449 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f5dc609e0d94e804869b5994ba2b19bc97980ac>
16:17 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #154: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/154/
16:17 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth
16:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
16:26 gaetan_B bye !
17:14 mtompset Thanks, gmcharlt. :)
17:19 magnuse dbic and new theme - 3.14 is going to be awesome!
17:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1449: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1449/
17:22 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10309: (follow-up) restore setting some OPAC template variables in C4::Auth
17:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
17:23 reiveune bye
17:26 mtompset awesome like pi? ;)
17:46 yhager Is there a way to send email to patrons from the staff client?
17:52 * maximep is sad that I didn't have time to help push bug 7710 for 3.14 :/
17:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , multiple holds per title
17:53 maximep but is happy that reserve now has a PK :D
18:26 mtompset PK?
18:26 gmcharlt primary key
18:27 mtompset I know too many shortforms, hence the need for clarification. :)
18:37 * cait waves
18:38 cait logs?
18:38 wahanui somebody said logs was http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
18:47 mtompset It's been rather uneventful today, cait. :)
18:47 cait yeah was hoping tcohen would be here
18:47 cait not sure if he is following me on twitter
18:48 cait was trying to catch him for lunch
18:48 mtompset Haven't seen him.
18:48 mtompset Did you try facebook'ing him?
18:49 cait i am not on facebook
18:52 mtompset Well, seeing as his last update is october 11, I don't think he is either. :)
18:53 cait yeah, i will figure out something
18:55 cait found him on twitter :)
20:04 cait-m waves
20:06 cait-m @wunder reno, nevada
20:06 huginn cait-m: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 13.3°C (1:00 PM PDT on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
20:06 druthb @wunder 77098
20:06 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 27.8°C (3:06 PM CDT on October 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa (Falling).
20:08 wizzyrea it is so weird having you all on pacific time.
20:09 cait-m :)
20:44 eythian hi
20:44 wahanui hola, eythian
20:48 magnuse cait-m: did you hook up with tcohen? he was here for 3 minutes, about half an hour ago
21:00 * magnuse feels sorry for all the poor people in reno, running around, trying to find each other
21:00 magnuse nah...
21:03 magnuse have fun #koha!
21:21 wai need help installing OPAC with koha 3.10
21:34 mtompset wai, what have you done so far?
21:35 mtompset wai: Are you still here?
21:37 wai i have installed koha and drupal 7. But we are trying to figure out how to install OPAC to connect koha to drupal 7?
21:39 mtompset Okay... I can't help you connect OPAC to drupal.
21:40 mtompset But I can help you make sure your koha is fully installed.
21:40 wai ok
21:42 wai what is the koha connector?
21:42 mtompset I know nothing of that.
21:43 mtompset Are you able to use OPAC normally already?
21:43 mtompset What OS are you using?
21:44 wai i think so. The big quetion. Is OPAC installed when Koha is installed or do you install it seperately
21:44 wai Linux
21:44 mtompset Let's start at the beginning.
21:44 mtompset Which linux?
21:45 mtompset -- side note: OPAC is installed when Koha is installed, but there is a web installation step after the command line set up. And your OPAC won't be available until after the web installation is completed.
21:46 mtompset So, which linux are you using?
21:48 wai just a minute
21:50 wizzyrea it's installed
21:51 mtompset wai: Or three? ;)
21:52 mtompset wizzyrea: But you can't use it immediately on a fresh install, until the databases are created/filled by the web installation step.
21:53 wizzyrea yep
22:01 wai sorry im back
22:03 wai we are using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
22:11 wizzyrea https://drupal.org/project/koha_connector < is this what you're trying to use?
22:11 wai yes. but everytime we try to use it. it shuts down our koha server
22:13 wizzyrea define "shut down"
22:14 mtompset Okay... I'm back... Ubuntu.
22:15 mtompset So, if you don't use it, you can search your OPAC just fine then?
22:16 wai it wipes the server so we have to revert back to it, i think we may be missing something that needs to be done
22:17 mtompset wipes the server?!
22:17 mtompset What do you mean "wipes the server"?
22:18 mtompset Because that connect looks like it is maintained by people at BibLibre.
22:20 mtompset When you say revert, do you mean "git reset --hard"?
22:25 wizzyrea installing drupal probably wipes out your apache configs
22:26 wizzyrea and/or subsumes the koha ones with the drupal ones.
22:26 wizzyrea koha's not gone, just you can't see it anymore.
22:30 mtompset Greetings, tcohen cait. Enjoying KohaCon?
22:30 eythian if he's following the advice everyone gave when someone was asking something similar on the list the other day, he's probably disabled the default site, because people who don't understand how apache works keep giving advice about how to configure it. </grump>
22:30 * mtompset laughs.
22:31 mtompset Quite possibly, eythian. And you validly grump.
22:32 mtompset I think I'll tweak the Ubuntu instructions further in that specific area.
22:32 wizzyrea that would probably be good.
22:33 cait mtompset: yep
22:43 mtompset Did wiki.koha-community.org just go missing in action?
22:46 eythian nope
22:46 eythian still works for me
22:49 mtompset Okay... my page just wasn't refreshing.
22:49 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Disable_Default_Site
22:49 mtompset Enough bolds, underlines, and italics?
23:00 BobB Is anyone in Reno about now?
23:00 mtompset cait is. :)
23:00 mtompset tcohen is.
23:00 tcohen hi
23:00 wahanui que tal, tcohen
23:01 mtompset How goes the KohaCon?
23:01 cait hey BobB
23:01 cait are you here yet?
23:01 tcohen i've met oleonard, rangi, cait, paul_p
23:01 BobB hi mtompset, I've just arrived and need to get some sleep
23:01 rambuten very good so far
23:01 mtompset Cool.
23:01 BobB hi cait, yes just in my room 15 mins
23:01 cait and he survived.... come and meet us, we are sitting closeto the elevator 1-12
23:01 cait :)
23:01 BobB ok, I will come down, thx
23:02 rambuten I'll be down in 30 min or so
23:02 BobB thx mtompset :)
23:02 mtompset Not a problem. I'm not there. :(
23:02 mtompset No one felt like making a round trip ticket donation. :(
23:03 mtompset Of couse, I didn't ask anyone, so to be expected. ;)
23:03 rambuten mtompset, everybody in the PH OK?
23:03 mtompset I haven't heard about any of my immediate colleagues being affected.
23:04 mtompset I'm a little out of the SIL Philippines loop.
23:04 rambuten SIL?
23:05 mtompset The no longer a valid meaning, but archaic meaning is Summer Institute of Linguistics.
23:05 mtompset archiac meaning?
23:05 mtompset meaning?
23:05 mtompset Okay, good wahanui didn't pick it up.
23:06 mtompset The organization I was seconded to while in the Philippines initially.
23:06 tcohen cait, what plan?
23:06 tcohen i'm about to take a shower and head to bb
23:21 BobB hi dcook
23:21 BobB hi tcohen
23:22 BobB cait is organising a meet-up for dinner
23:23 dcook hey BobB
23:23 BobB there is an atrium lounge on ground floor near the bottom of the 1-12 lifts
23:23 dcook Hmm, neato
23:23 BobB meeting there just before 8
23:23 BobB dcook, be there or be square :)
23:23 dcook Are the 1-12 lifts the first set?
23:24 dcook hehe
23:24 dcook I'll be there (or at least try to find the right place at the right time)
23:24 BobB not sure, but not too far from the desk
23:24 tcohen next to the desk
23:24 dcook Ahh, is the lounge that place with all the chairs and little tables?
23:24 dcook I think I saw a couple people over there earlier
23:24 tcohen :D
23:25 BobB they were probably cait and rangi :)
23:25 dcook Mmm, nopes
23:25 dcook Older lady and an asian fellow
23:25 dcook But I think I know the place. 8 sounds great.
23:25 tcohen that's too rude dcook
23:25 BobB then you are right, that's not rangi
23:26 dcook tcohen: rude?
23:26 dcook time to skype the wife
23:26 dcook bbiab
23:26 BobB I am going to grab a couple of hours sleep now ...
23:26 BobB Its nearly 30 hours since I was horizontal
23:26 BobB See you at 8
23:26 wizzyrea gracious.
23:43 cait dcook: we are still here....
23:43 cait you might try again