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23:51 papa hey, hi there!
23:49 * dcook is hoping to be travelling in Greece in Sept/Oct :p
23:49 mtompset Why not, dcook? Why would you want Kohacon14 is some other month than September or October?
23:49 mtompset Greetings, dcook papa.
23:29 * dcook just hopes Kohacon14 isn't in Sept/Oct
23:29 dcook Argentina \o/
22:11 cait not so sure now
22:09 cait it seemed easiest
22:09 eythian I haven't burnt a CD in a long time now.
22:08 cait hm guess i figured it out
22:07 * cait is trying to burn an iso image here...
22:07 cait why will brasero just blink in the menu and then go away?
22:06 cait well, guess there are at least 4 corners in the room ;)
22:06 cait hah!
22:06 eythian rangi is going for hard liquor.
22:06 jcamins cait: water.
22:05 cait jcamins: and what will you drink?
22:05 rangi speaking of which, brb
22:05 rangi heh
22:05 jcamins cait: same for hard liquor, of course. :P
22:05 rangi coffee then
22:04 cait you are not helping jared
22:03 jcamins cait: wine has a high enough alcohol level that you should be fine with that.
22:03 rangi hehe
22:03 cait I guess i will have to make new friends at kohacon,..
22:02 bag OMGinny cait! yes yes go stand in the corner :P
22:01 cait nope
22:01 cait and coming from a german
22:01 rangi go stand in the corner
22:01 rangi thats crazy talk
22:00 cait but beer is yuck.
22:00 bag and hops to preserve the beer :)
22:00 eythian heh
22:00 cait (nothing new there)
22:00 rangi the beer rule, not the steak one
22:00 cait I am worried
22:00 eythian She'll be drinking the water.
22:00 cait nope not at all
22:00 * rangi actually followed that rule in quite a bit of rural china
22:00 eythian cait won't be safe then.
21:59 rangi exactly
21:59 cait and desinfected because of the alcohol?
21:59 cait lol
21:58 rangi :)
21:58 rangi and of course, can only drink beer, as that water has been boiled, so its safe
21:57 rangi i better buy 2 seats for the return flight
21:57 rangi and cinamon rolls
21:57 rangi and fries
21:57 rangi all steak, all the time
21:55 cait although i shouldn't
21:55 * cait likes that idea
21:55 cait lol
21:55 rangi ill just eat masses of incredibly fried stuff
21:54 rangi so i wasnt planning on eating sea food anyway
21:54 rangi on the plus side, reno is far from any ocean
21:53 cait if that somehow makes me not make it to reno - i will be majorly grumpy
21:52 jcamins Our government is dead set on setting new records on stupidity, and there aren't a lot left to break.
21:52 rangi hehe
21:52 eythian rangi: on the other hand, I'm sure customs won't be checking and you can just bring your own food :)
21:51 rangi The furlough means more than 90% of the foreign seafood Americans eat is coming through unchecked, as well as half the fruit and one-fifth of the vegetables.
21:51 rangi heh, unfortunately its not just shrimp
21:51 cait rangi: because you wan to eat tons of shrimp?
21:50 jcamins rangi: yeah... don't see that happening.
21:49 rangi http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/10/what-the-us-government-has-to-do-with-your-popcorn-shrimp/280327/
21:49 rangi they best sort this crap out by kohacon
21:44 eythian very high read load for very small write load helps too
21:44 eythian handful of webservers.
21:44 eythian yeah
21:44 jcamins Where stuff = stuff.co.nz not just random stuff.
21:44 eythian jcamins: no, but it's still not running on a lot of hardware.
21:43 jcamins eythian: right, but hopefully you're not using MacBook Airs to serve stuff.
21:43 eythian or the stuff cluster's being able to serve 10 people vs. a million :)
21:43 jcamins Also, HAProxy is really cool.
21:42 jcamins Once it started hitting the cache more often than not, it also got faster, but as long as my searches are reasonably fast, that's fairly unimportant next to the difference between being able to serve 100 users and being able to serve 400 users.
21:41 eythian (local cache == in my dev environment)
21:41 eythian Oh yes, when I was working on stuff.co.nz, having an empty local cache caused a page load to take minutes. After that it was a second.
21:40 rangi *nod*
21:39 jcamins Once the cache warmed up, CPU usage dropped down to just above 100%.
21:39 jcamins When it started out, CPU usage was just under 400%, and some of the searches timed out.
21:38 jcamins BTW, if anyone wants proof that caching is about scaling just as much as speed, I just ran a whole bunch of searches load balanced across three VMs.
21:32 rangi heh
21:30 bag :P
21:30 bag s/you're/your
21:30 bag rangi: you should send pianohacker you're koha blobbie shirt so he can wear that and petter can look for that shirt :)
21:29 cait typoed :)
21:29 cait ah
21:29 wahanui hackfest13 is, like, http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Hackfest
21:29 cait hm hackfest13?
21:29 bag I was just telling pianohacker that he is flying with petter
21:29 cait and the hackfest14?
21:29 cait yeah that one :)
21:29 bag yes yes I did
21:29 bag http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Arrivals
21:28 cait hmm
21:28 cait arrivals?
21:28 cait bag did you see our arrivals page on the wiki?
21:28 wahanui thanks cait :)
21:28 cait wahanui botsnack cookie
21:27 wahanui go back to bed, eythian
21:27 bag hey eythian
21:25 eythian hi
20:57 ebegin cait, not yet, I was busy at something else
20:57 cait lucky guess
20:56 drojf how do you know? :D
20:55 cait drojf: wifi hating you again?
20:51 cait ebegin: did you figure it out?
20:36 rangi to jonathan probably
20:36 rangi send a patch based against that
20:36 rangi ebegin: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=contrib/global.git;a=summary
20:33 ebegin Hey ! How do we submit changes to KOCT ?
20:31 wahanui rumour has it anything is possible with enough development work :)
20:31 cait or anything
20:31 cait it's not like this channel was logged
20:31 cait ok, I won't
20:31 drojf aaaaw, don't tell anyone
20:30 cait drojf: aren't you already? :)
20:29 oleonard Bye #koha
20:27 drojf good night magnuse
20:27 magnuse have fun!
20:27 drojf and i think i will be quite insane by then :D
20:26 magnuse well, those are the only semweb books i have read, apart from "practical rdf" whixh is way out of date
20:26 drojf i'd consider going to SWIB but i have to hand in said thesis shortly after
20:26 cait good night magnuse :)
20:26 magnuse oh well, gotta run
20:26 drojf magnuse++
20:26 drojf cool, i see if we got those here. thanks!
20:25 magnuse drojf: "semantic web for the working ontologist" if you want to learn about modeling, "learning sparql" by DuCharme for the obvious reason and "programming the semantic web" by segaran, evans & taylor for the really practical programming stuff
20:23 magnuse but i really, really think anyine interested in libraries and it should go there
20:23 drojf magnuse: oh that reminds me, can you recommend a book about semantic web? i wonder if i can use that for my thesis on lexicography
20:23 magnuse s/ut/it/
20:23 magnuse i'll have to think about ut
20:23 magnuse mostly, i was just thinking of a way to meet cool koha people in europe ;-)
20:22 drojf because i asked him a while ago and he said no. i wondered if that changed now :)
20:22 magnuse drojf: i really, really want to go to swib, but i have forgotten about it for a while
20:22 * cait goes to hide somewhere
20:22 drojf yes
20:22 cait oh
20:22 rangi i think he meant to swibl
20:21 drojf huh?
20:21 cait tsk.
20:20 cait please stop torturing him.
20:19 drojf magnuse: you're going?
20:15 magnuse yay!
20:14 cait ah hamburg, hamburg is nice
20:14 magnuse hey, we should all meet at http://swib.org/swib13/programme.php
20:13 wahanui i guess kohacon14 is in Argentina!
20:13 cait kohacon14?
20:13 cait kohacon14 is in Argentina!
20:13 wahanui cait: I forgot kohacon14
20:13 cait forget kohacon14
20:13 wahanui ...but kohacon14 is submissions due by 15 September, voting to commence first week of October...
20:13 cait wahanui kohacon14 is in Argentina!
20:13 wahanui i think argentina is in for kohacon13
20:13 cait argentina!
20:13 cait magnuse: we will see :)
20:13 bag heh
20:13 bag and sees the vote :)
20:12 bag checks mail
20:12 magnuse argentina won
20:12 magnuse yup
20:12 bag is the voting over for next year?
20:12 magnuse cait: 2016 perhaps?
20:12 cait magnuse: sometime i want to... not sure when and how
20:11 cait hehe
20:11 oleonard Yes, by offering escalating levels of free sweets to attendees!
20:11 magnuse cait: you want to host kohacon in 2018 too?
20:11 cait magnuse: let's fight over it :P
20:10 magnuse bag: definitely no reno for me. hopefully marseille in the not too distant future! and kohacon in norway in 2018, perhaps? :-)
20:09 * cait waves at bag
20:09 bag sorry man I thought you'd be coming… but I'll see you in France again?
20:08 bag oh no kohacon for you?
20:08 * magnuse is not flying anywhere...
20:08 bag rangi you fly tomorrow right? magnuse in two days :) just kidding - but it's fun to screw up international timezones and dates :P
20:05 magnuse maybe next year? :-)
20:05 magnuse ah, too bad...
20:05 rangi back btw
20:05 rangi magnuse: none at all
20:05 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
20:05 magnuse @later tell rangi: did you have any more contact with the catmandu people, about attending kohacon?
19:45 * cait it totally up to date
19:45 cait :)
19:45 oleonard Oh look, IRC regulars, your information is out of date: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars Maybe. Some of you.
19:13 jcamins [off] Ohhhh. Now I understand!
19:13 rangi bbiab
19:13 rangi right school time
19:13 rangi [off] but yeah all your code is on github, licensed under a free software license, and i could grab it all now, you're doing it wrong it should have to pay to play!!
19:11 rangi the code may be open one day, but its not now, and its certainly not openly developed
19:11 cait [off] lol?
19:11 jcamins [off] Ooh ooh! Biblionarrator is programmed by a single company! And it's open source! Where are my millions?
19:10 cait yes, lots of funding from mellon foundation
19:10 cait from specifications the libraries agree too
19:10 rangi with a few million dollars in funding
19:10 jcamins And invite people to apply to work on the system at some point in the future.
19:10 cait programmed by one single company
19:10 cait oleonard: it's a group funded Ils
19:10 cait but others don't
19:10 oleonard I'm not familiar with Kuali
19:09 cait i think
19:09 cait on the website they call it community source
19:09 rangi why they call it open source?
19:08 oleonard I don't get it
19:08 rangi karma
19:08 rangi ah well
19:07 cait i know
19:07 rangi *cough* open source *cough*
19:03 rangi http://lanyrd.com/2013/kduk13/ therer
19:02 rangi https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=ind1310&L=LIS-OSS&F=&S=&P=52
19:02 cait hm, is the conf program somewhere?
19:01 rangi http://lanyrd.com/2013/kduk13/scpqfr/
18:53 cait wise :)
18:51 oleonard Sometimes you have to send a few follow-ups to push the first one through the pipe
18:46 rangi there will probably be a few to the main list now, cos ive just let them ones being held through
18:45 drojf rangi: yes i found an email telling me that. i sent another one only to the main list. the dev list automatically threw away two of the ccs i think
18:44 mtompset I had that happen once to me.
18:44 rangi combination
18:44 mtompset Is that TO or CC or a combination of recipients?
18:44 mtompset Greetings, rangi. :)
18:43 cait morning rangi
18:43 rangi drojf: its not the cc, the mailing lists dont like too many recipients, it looks like spam to them and it gets held for me to moderate
18:41 mtompset Greetings, drojf.
18:24 drojf hi cait :)
18:24 cait hi drojf
18:24 drojf good evening #koha
18:08 tcohen thanks all of u for your support
18:08 tcohen bye #koha
18:03 mtompset A signoff and HTTPS... I guess it hasn't been too unproductive today. :)
17:56 jcamins mtompset: you might want to consider reading a good introduction to HTTP. I'm sure O'Reilly has one.
17:53 jcamins mtompset: for that you'd probably just buy a wildcard certificate.
17:52 mtompset oh, so like library and library-admin for some domain.org not matching the certificate for domain.org?
17:52 jcamins At least, you're unlikely to run out. I'm not sure if there's an actual limit.
17:52 tcohen agreed, that's IP based virtual hosts
17:52 jcamins You can have as many IPs as you want on a single server.
17:52 jcamins Per virtual host.
17:51 tcohen if you host only one URL in the server...
17:51 jcamins *host
17:51 jcamins tcohen: that's why you should have one IP per hsot.
17:51 tcohen its a design problem in name-based virtual hosts
17:50 tcohen and browsers complain about the SSL certificate CN not matching the URL
17:50 mtompset how is that a design problem, tcohen?
17:50 tcohen the SSL conection is set 'before' the GET is sent
17:49 jcamins Given that you're using Apache + CGI no matter what, and otherwise have no reason to use a proxy, I can't really think of a reason to add that much complexity.
17:49 tcohen there's a desing problem with HTTPS
17:49 mtompset and having the proxy map HTTPS to HTTP behind the scenes.
17:48 mtompset putting up a proxy in front of it.
17:47 druthb Any time *any* personal information is being passed around the 'net, SSL is better than not-SSL...I think that's a pretty blanket-able statement.
17:45 jcamins As opposed to?
17:44 mtompset Now the question is... is that the best way to handle koha?
17:42 mtompset Then modified the working koha instance file and ports.conf accordingly.
17:42 mtompset Got the default SSL working.
17:42 mtompset Woo hoo! I kicked it into SSL.
17:39 tcohen :D
17:39 druthb is!
17:36 cait isn#t it great? :)
17:33 druthb oh! congratulations, tcohen, on Cordoba's selection for next year! :)
17:26 cait i am glad the librarians are so excited about it :)
17:26 cait :)
17:25 tcohen hidden behind his IT profile
17:25 tcohen exactly
17:25 cait and sending a spy to kohacon13? ;)
17:24 cait :)
17:24 tcohen heh
17:24 tcohen librarians are creating a KohaCon task force
17:24 cait oh? :)
17:24 tcohen there's a revolution at UNC because of KohaCon14
17:24 tcohen adding to the wiki pagfe
17:24 cait i have some list too :)
17:24 cait that would be nice :)
17:23 tcohen (during hackfest)
17:23 tcohen hmm, besides the UTF stuff, we could make columns.def translatable
17:19 tcohen ok, that'd be a good general rule
17:19 cait i mean i'd like the default to be quite complete :)
17:18 cait a lot of libraries can't do this kind of enh - and then deleting is easier then adding :)
17:18 tcohen thanks cait, jcamins
17:18 cait :)
17:18 huginn 04Bug 7525: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , some database fields are displayed 'as is' when they are linked to autorised values
17:18 wahanui general bug is probably here, but didn't get much attention : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7525
17:18 jcamins General bug.
17:18 cait hmi woud like to see it added
17:18 tcohen this kind of request should be trated as a general bug or is it something to fix indoors?
17:18 cait that is possible i think
17:17 tcohen #koha, question: i have librarians that say Koha doesn't show some map-specific data on XSLT detail pages
17:10 mtompset Can't get it to work.
17:10 * mtompset grumbles about apache.
16:59 druthb The first five hits are all good stuff...some do dummy-certs, some do commercial certs.
16:58 cait yeah, lots of evil looking warning messages without a proper cert
16:58 druthb http://lmgtfy.com/?q=apache+ssl+debian
16:58 druthb you can do a self-signed cert for your test install, but it will annoy people to do it in production.
16:57 cait mtompset: we run all our installation under https - opac and staff
16:57 mtompset Can't I run with this in my test system if I accept the evilness?
16:56 druthb That's the first part. you need to make a certificate signing request, and go get your SSL key from whomever, and install it, after that.
16:55 mtompset right?
16:55 mtompset sudo openssl req -newkey rsa:2048 -new -x509 -days 3652 -nodes -out kohassl.crt -keyout kohassl.pem
16:55 druthb There's nothing about Koha per se that is SSL or non-SSL, mtompset. You just serve the OPAC or staff client over SSL ports, or not, that's all.
16:54 druthb (that's the tetchy part)
16:54 druthb (tjat
16:53 druthb it's not hard at all, once you have a certificate installed.
16:53 mtompset Have either of you ever forced Koha to do SSL?
16:51 druthb Hi, mtompset. :)
16:51 * cait waves
16:50 mtompset Greetings, druthb cait. :)
16:41 mtompset Anyone familiar with forcing koha to do SSL?
16:26 reiveune bye
16:10 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:21 luca_ Thank you very much!
15:21 luca_ We had not seen the "Advanced constaints" TAB
15:20 luca_ OK, thank you!!!
15:07 jcamins luca_: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/catadmin.html#editsubfields
15:06 luca_ I already tried modifying bib-famework, but didn't find the "visible" field
15:05 luca_ if I get a marc record (from z39.50) in which it is already visible then, ok, I have it
15:04 kf please take a look at the manual about modifying your bibliographic frameworks - I think you need to take a look at the tab field and the hidden values should be empty
15:04 luca_ yes, i want to see it in the MARC record, when for instance I click "new record"
15:00 kf to make it visible in the detail pages more work is needed
15:00 kf you can make it visible in cataloguing
14:59 luca_ i want to see the 84 field...
14:59 luca_ where i can set the hidden filds?
14:57 luca_ advanced option in wich menu?
14:49 luca_ "advanced options" where is?
14:46 kf and not only the field, but also take a look at the subfields
14:46 kf in the advancedoptions
14:46 kf and the tab
14:46 kf check the hidden value
14:44 luca_ but it still doesn't show
14:44 luca_ we set 84 mandatory:yes
14:43 luca_ no, doesn't work....
14:42 luca_ ...
14:42 luca_ ok, i'm going to try
14:39 kf luca_: you probably need to adjust your bibliographic frameworks to have the field not hidden as a first step
14:39 luca_ i don't know how to do...
14:37 luca_ ?
14:37 luca_ How can i solve this
14:36 luca_ but if the book hasn't the field, i can see just the 82 field (dewej classification)
14:36 luca_ hi, i have this problem: i want to use the field 084 in marc record (because i want to use an other classification number)
14:09 kf you can have bugs that depend on each other
14:09 kf yes
14:07 kivilahtio maybe using the depends-field in bugzilla?
14:06 kivilahtio make one patch and have other patches depend on that? like bug_10993 -> bug_10995 -> bug_10996 ?
14:06 kivilahtio kf: How should I format my patches then? I have one as a central access point to check if Branchtransfer is ok + unit tests. Then I need to modify all use cases of reservation to support BranchTransferLimits. This includes API's and OPAC and staff client. Then I need to modify the build_holds_queue.pl . I understood that you should have only one patch, but I think that might be a bit impossible :) How should I link my bugs together? Can I
13:51 kf especially difficult to do with holds, but needed
13:51 kf kivilahtio: don't forget... small testable steps.
13:47 oleonard Extending X to holds is a big thing for any value of X.
13:44 kivilahtio just looking through the build_holds_queue.pl and it is pretty interesting
13:44 kivilahtio wow, extending these UseBranchTransferLimits to holds is a big thing :)
13:38 kf oleonard++ thx for your input :)
13:36 kf i will try to do some with different date formats
13:36 kf :)
13:36 kf sounds good to me
13:34 oleonard I think we could remove it after doing some more testing
13:33 kf or should it be kept and needs to be a syspref... or third option?
13:33 kf what do you think? could we remove the read-only on that grounds? with a bit more testing?
13:33 kf oleonard: that sounds good
13:32 oleonard It didn't like a 1900 date ("1900-01-01"), which was translated to 3800-01-01, but it correctly rejected two-digit years
13:31 oleonard kf: Koha seems to handle manual entry of dates pretty well now, aside from the 12:00AM time if you don't include one
12:39 * kf throws confetti
12:38 tcohen too!!
12:37 kf I am very happy with the results :)
12:37 kf :)
12:36 tcohen #koha: thanks for trusting us :-D
12:36 tcohen oh
12:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl
12:36 kf tcohen: congratulations :)
12:36 tcohen bug 10609
12:35 kivilahtio g'day
12:35 kf good morning :)
12:35 tcohen morning
12:27 magnuse hiya oleonard
12:25 kf hi oleonard :)
12:23 oleonard Hi #koha
12:08 kf not sure about that routine
12:02 kivilahtio kf: I think I am misunderstanding the sql :) or some strange behaviour in my IDE
11:58 kf it is an option that you can use a bilbio level itemtyp - item-level_itypes I think
11:57 kivilahtio kf: ok
11:55 kf which i woudl recommend
11:55 kf and the itemtype there won't be used if you have item level itypes
11:55 kf it's because koha used to have a frbr like database structure that there are biblioitems
11:54 kf biblio + bilbioitems = bibliographic information, items = items
11:54 kf biblioitems are not items
11:54 kf kivilahtio: I think you don't understand how it works
11:41 kivilahtio I just realized that the biblioitem has no collection code, just itemtype
11:34 kivilahtio they wont be included in the Get"Biblio"-SELECT. This is very cofusing, since I thought I am pulling a biblioitem from the DB instead of a item.
11:34 kivilahtio Hi #Koha! I think I found a bug, but I am not sure. I was writing test cases and stumbled upon this behaviour. Item has no itemtype or collection code, but the biblio has them defined in the bibliotems-table. When I use the C4::Biblio::GetBiblioFromItemNumber( $item->{itemnumber} ) I actually get the contents of the items-table, instead of the biblioitems-table. So even if the biblioitems-table has the collection code and itemtype defined,
11:24 magnuse bgkriegel++ tcohen++
11:05 drojf :)
11:05 drojf yes, congratulations :=
11:04 bgkriegel Good news for us!! :)
10:54 drojf ^^
10:54 drojf the mailing lists don't like CC
10:50 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
10:50 kf @later tell tcohen congratulations!
10:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10010 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use jQueryUI Accordion to display constraints in MARC subfield editor
10:33 magnuse and yay for bug 10010
10:29 kf that too :)
10:29 magnuse yay for clear results!
10:23 kf :)
10:23 kf WOHOOOOO!
10:23 drojf spoiler alert: i had another look at the votes. there are not as many duplicates as i thought at first, some things look a little fishy on both sides and the vote is very clearly in favour of argentina for kohacon 2014.
10:17 magnuse yeah, i think that has to be it
10:17 magnuse use an include for normarc, then if/when that gets pushed, do a followup for marc21, using the same include?
10:17 magnuse what's the proper way to do that for marc21, i wonder
10:16 magnuse most of those files could go in an include
10:16 magnuse and now i want to add a version for normarc...
10:16 magnuse ooh, massive code duplication between marc21_field_006.tt and marc21_field_008.tt
09:49 * kf thinks we volunteered the right person for the job ;)
09:49 kf for being thorough
09:49 kf drojf++ :)
09:49 magnuse yeah
09:46 drojf let's hope it is the same on both sides and blame server errors. :)
09:43 magnuse yay!
09:39 drojf yes, i guess that was the point of doing that. :P we will see, i check tonight
09:36 magnuse and did they vote for the same thing with both/all addresses?
09:36 magnuse sounds like un-fun
09:29 drojf more than i would have expected
09:28 drojf magnuse: yes. and obviously same people using a gmail and another address. or a name+something@gmail address on top of the regular one
09:27 drojf hi kf and magnuse
09:26 wahanui patch workflow is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
09:26 kf patch workflow?
09:26 magnuse are there multiple occurences of the same email addresses?
09:26 magnuse yeah drojf++
09:26 kf and drojf++
09:25 kf we missed you :)
09:25 kf good morning drojf
09:24 kf :(
09:24 magnuse ouch!
09:23 drojf if less people had voted twice or even more, i would have a preliminary result of the kohacon 2014 vote now :/
09:21 drojf good morning #koha
08:12 gaetan_B hello
07:29 magnuse kia ora kf
07:29 kf morning magnuse :)
07:29 * kf grumbles about mondays and time moving too fast
07:28 * magnuse grumbles about weird file formats
07:16 samueld hi everybody :-)
07:03 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
07:03 Oak @later tell mtompset http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24292-first-physical-evidence-of-why-youre-an-owl-or-a-lark.html
07:01 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
07:00 mtompset Shoot. 3am... I should sleep.
07:00 mtompset Greetings, Oak.
06:49 Oak cait++
06:47 cait bbl
06:47 cait ok, it worked :)
06:45 reiveune I would have to do it, yes.
06:44 mtompset reiveune: I see you here often. Perhaps you should be on the list of regulars? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars
06:42 reiveune hi :)
06:42 mtompset Bonjour, reiveune. :)
06:41 reiveune hello
06:40 mtompset Ah... I didn't know that RUSMARC was UNIMARC. I thought it was a MARC21 variant.
06:40 cait hm doesn't seem so
06:39 mtompset If anyone can do it, you can, cait. :)
06:39 * cait must be crazy
06:39 * cait tries to catalog multilanguage authorities in unimarc before work...
06:38 wahanui well, unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation
06:38 cait unimarc?
06:38 magnuse i just need to swap the columns in the file i got..
06:37 magnuse yeah, but i think it will be ok :-)
06:36 mtompset oh, and make sure your string matching is exact... those substring matching multiple items would be a BAD thing.
06:34 mtompset Your pain will come for the indexing. :P
06:33 magnuse (famous last words...)
06:33 magnuse yeah, it's almost too easy...
06:33 * mtompset nods.
06:33 magnuse got a file now with itemnumbers and barcodes, so i just have to turn that into "update items set barcode = x where barcode = y"
06:33 mtompset Well, at least there should be a way to map them behind the scenes to fix it.
06:33 mtompset Yuck.
06:32 magnuse or they exported the equvalent of itemnumbers in place of the barcodes
06:32 magnuse the old system "forgot" to include barcodes in the exported data
06:32 magnuse fixing leftovers from a migration
06:32 mtompset What fun things are you working on, magnuse?
06:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10799 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Able to become self-checkout staff user in OPAC
06:29 mtompset Now to contemplate bug 10799
06:29 magnuse yay!
06:26 * mtompset cheers, "THERE! I got self-checkout to work."
06:26 magnuse hiya mtompset
06:26 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
06:20 * magnuse waves
05:48 mtompset Any ideas what I have to configure to get it to work?
05:47 mtompset I'm having a problem with self-checkout log in.
05:47 mtompset Greetings, eythian.
05:37 eythian http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2013/09/oed-researcher/
04:18 * Oak waves
01:30 mtompset blou: Are you still here?! Or did you just leave your IRC client running since Friday.
01:30 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:15 wizzyrea so. stupid.
00:15 eythian the best money can buy
00:15 wizzyrea so books that are public domain in many other places aren't in the US
00:14 jcamins eythian: they probably do, but that doesn't make my country any less stupid. :(
00:14 wizzyrea US has stupid copyright laws
00:14 eythian do they not sell to the US?
00:14 jcamins They have reasonable copyright laws, so those books are public domain.
00:13 jcamins eythian: wish I were in Australia.