Time Nick Message
23:53 wizzyrea also USE YOUR VOTES
23:51 dcook Which provider do you use?
23:48 eythian but also my openid provider requires the use of two-factor auth, which is nice.
23:48 dcook O_o
23:47 eythian that's why openid lets you provide whatever info you like
23:45 dcook Hmm, not sure I'm a fan of all the info it would take...
23:43 * eythian prefers to use openid, though SE's interface for that needs some work.
23:43 * dcook realizes how out of the blue those comments are
23:43 dcook Just an email address
23:42 * dcook didn't need to sign up to follow the Koha Stackexchange...
23:14 tweetbot_ [off] @nzKoha: "September #KohaILS updates and fixes for your downloading pleasure at http://t.co/qA73lKSXIB Cheers maintainers!"
22:41 cait good night all
22:41 cait ... and now i better sleep :)
22:36 cait i will suggest it
22:36 cait or maybe it would
22:36 cait hm i think for the profile it would look not quite right, but just a feeling
22:35 gmcharlt maybe "issues to claim" as the name of the profile?
22:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , OPAC: There is no authority search history
22:35 cait gmcharlt: I am still pondering bug 10807 and the subs in the new module
22:35 gmcharlt yeah, at least not currently, though it could be enhanced to do so
22:34 cait gmcharlt: i think koha does not differentiate here
22:33 gmcharlt cait: serial "claims", at least as used by NA libraries, don't occur until the library has actually requested delivery or replacement of a late issue
22:08 eythian then it seems reasonable to me. More or less what it already is called in the interface.
22:07 eythian oh right
22:07 cait serial issues that didn't arrive when they should have
22:07 eythian what are "late issues"?
22:06 cait morning eythian
22:06 wahanui kai ora, eythian
22:06 eythian hi
22:06 wahanui noone is, like, here
22:06 cait noone?
22:04 cait is 'issues claims' a good name for the sql profile for exporting late issues as csv file?
22:04 jcamins We need an animated gif for the tumblr. I shall ponder.
22:04 cait hm native speakers
22:03 rangi thats better
22:03 huginn 04Bug 8064: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Merge several biblio records
22:03 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8064#c24
22:03 wizzyrea i am afraid to google that
22:03 rangi hmm?
22:03 jcamins Gesamtkunstwerk. We should talk about Gesamtkunstwerk more often on #koha.
22:01 cait should the new bot get a name?
22:01 cait rangi: we will keep an eye on it :)
22:00 rangi ill just iron the kinks out first
21:59 jcamins I suppose to a folder with several gigabytes of unidentifiable data.
21:58 jcamins I'm not 100% sure where it was writing the data to earlier.
21:57 jcamins Okay, there's the data.
21:57 rangi but if it seems to be being not false positives it could start blocking
21:57 cait yep that's already great
21:57 rangi for now it will note it on the bug
21:57 rangi it might do block at some point
21:56 cait we had a lot of those dependencies in the list of patches in the past and it was sometimes a bit hard to untangle where you could actually start
21:56 cait could it mark patches that dpeend on something that can't be tested (does not apply, in discussion etc.) as blocked? and unblock it later on?
21:55 cait rangi: hm another idea for an enh
21:55 cait I'd think so :)
21:55 rangi just once is enough :)
21:55 wizzyrea hehe
21:54 rangi i probably dont need to put that message on for all the patches
21:54 cait heh
21:54 cait whoops
21:54 huginn 04Bug 7683: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , statistic wizard: cataloging
21:54 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7683#c33
21:54 cait hi rangi
21:54 rangi whoops
21:54 pianohacker It's like saying there's a .tt owen hasn't touched
21:54 gmcharlt I'm not BillDueber! I swear it! ;)
21:53 pianohacker I'm not sure if I should believe you, gmcharlt...
21:53 jcamins Odd.
21:53 jcamins It went... nowhere.
21:53 gmcharlt pianohacker: nuh-uh! Bill Dueber wrote it -- I just worked with him to fold it into the MARC/Perl umbrella :)
21:51 jcamins Hmmm... where's the data going?
21:51 pianohacker just another MARC-related .pm that you wrote :)
21:51 gmcharlt pianohacker: what's up?
21:50 pianohacker oh hi galen
21:48 jcamins MARC::File::MiJ
21:48 pianohacker jcamins: What tool are you using? I can't remember which project it was, but I was looking for a good MARC-as-JSON "schema"
21:47 jcamins I figured, 4-core system, might as well use more than one of 'em.
21:47 jcamins pianohacker: I got bored of waiting for the MARC->JSON conversion to complete.
21:45 pianohacker jcamins: Felt like being the pipe(2) system call today, hmm? :)
21:45 pianohacker eenteresting
21:45 jcamins pianohacker: yep.
21:44 jcamins Let's see what happens, shall we?
21:44 jcamins This is such a terrible idea I can hardly express it.
21:44 * jcamins converts MARC to JSON in one terminal, and loads the JSON in another terminal.
21:44 pianohacker jcamins: PHP for one will do that, no?
21:42 pianohacker jcamins: Thankfully not including at least firefox's regex parser, but good catch
21:42 jcamins pianohacker: some regex parsers will only treat ^ as special at the beginning of the string.
21:40 pianohacker I think I've found a cheap, JS-compatible regex that doesn't match anything, and I love it: /^.^/
21:09 cait hi wizzyrea :)
21:06 wizzyrea hallo
21:05 Dyrcona Being told not "to karma yourself" makes it sound ... dirty.
21:04 cait ;)
21:04 * cait will take cookies to decrease karma
21:01 Dyrcona Saved by the hall monitor. :)
21:01 Dyrcona hah.
21:01 huginn Dyrcona: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
21:01 Dyrcona Dyrcona-- # for forgetting to sign off rangi's commits in another project
21:01 Dyrcona heh.
20:58 jeff Dyrcona++ for reminding me (unintentionally) that I'd not re-joined #koha recently
20:58 jeff :-)
20:57 gmcharlt ;)
20:57 gmcharlt jeff: wake up!
20:57 cait hi
20:57 jeff greetings.
20:57 * jeff yawns
20:57 cait wrk mail kicks me out in 3 mins... that's just in time :)
20:57 gmcharlt cait: I've now sent the email to koha-devel that should make it more clear :)
20:56 * cait is still confused :)
20:55 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "subroutines referring to package-level lexicals in C4" (91 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/224
20:42 pianohacker gmcharlt: Curses, sorry. Talking about perl can be confusing like that :)
20:38 gmcharlt but yes, that's the thread I mean
20:38 gmcharlt pianohacker: ah, misunderstood -- I had read it as ' re: *my* my-variables-in-file-scope-kills-plack mail from earlier?'
20:38 pianohacker oh, no, just wondering if that's what the paste was about
20:37 gmcharlt pianohacker: er, what such email? in the coding guidelines and plack thread? if so, I don't see a rsponse from you.
20:35 pianohacker gmcharlt: re: my-variables-in-file-scope-kills-plack mail from earlier?
20:35 cait i just noticed: It's already QA sprint day! and still GBSD!
20:35 cait btw
20:35 cait gmcharlt: what are we looking at? :)
20:33 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "not actually a huge deal" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/223
20:02 rangi bbiab school run
20:02 * mtompset puts on his chauffeur hat again.
19:58 pianohacker as far as 8133, well, still figuring out what to do about that
19:58 rangi see the new field, that tracks when the bot last looked at it
19:58 cait or tcohen's :)
19:58 huginn 04Bug 7288: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Invoice improvements - Show only subscriptions
19:58 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7288
19:58 cait counting the stops
19:58 pianohacker heh true
19:57 cait pianohacker: well not worse than rangi's it seems
19:57 pianohacker You have one heck of a transfer set up cait
19:57 cait koha++!
19:57 cait seems i am not stopping giving out karma tonight :)
19:57 rangi Skipping bug, was checked 0 days ago
19:57 cait rangi++
19:57 rangi right, the bot is now skipping stuff that has been recently checked
19:57 cait drojf++
19:57 cait pianohacker: i am waiting on feedback/rebases for some of your patches... *hint* :)
19:56 drojf finally sent out the email for kohacon voting. sorry for the delay
19:56 pianohacker ah, yes. Still need to pick flight times, but will put that down once I do, thanks
19:55 cait did you see the wiki page for arrivals? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Arrivals
19:55 cait cool
19:55 cait :)
19:54 pianohacker Woohah. Got everything nailed down. See you all in Reno!
19:40 cait bgkriegel++ coming up with new ideas to make translator's lifes easier!
19:36 * gmcharlt is still inclined to try it with Starman 0.4-latest
19:36 jcamins What I thought was weird a moment ago was that despite the links saying http:// I ended up at https:// but that's because the login pages redirect to https.
19:36 jcamins I mean, it doesn't break regular HTTP, so I'd be fine with the patch.
19:35 jcamins Oh, no, it definitely doesn't work with HTTPS.
19:35 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
19:35 jcamins Oh, never mind.
19:35 gmcharlt which is weird, because looking at https://metacpan.org/source/MIYAGAWA/Starman-0.2014/lib/Starman/Server.pm, psgi.url_scheme is forced to http
19:35 jcamins Wait... this is weird.
19:34 jcamins Starman 0.2014.
19:34 gmcharlt in particular, what version of Starman?
19:33 gmcharlt but upshot is that $using_https is set correctly for you? what's your overall Plack setup?
19:33 jcamins CGI->https() uses some sort of disturbing wizardry that doesn't play nicely with Data::Dumper.
19:32 jcamins gmcharlt: the patch is fine.
19:32 jcamins Ah-ha!
19:29 jcamins Huh. That lists it.
19:29 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 31.1°C (2:29 PM CDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
19:29 druthb @wunder 77098
19:28 jcamins I was using Data::Dumper. I'll try keys.
19:28 huginn rambuten: The current temperature in Reno, Nevada is 19.0°C (11:55 AM PDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
19:28 rambuten @wunder RNO
19:28 jcamins Hm.
19:27 gmcharlt jcamins: not keys %ENV ?
19:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in MidTown, Reno, Nevada is 18.5°C (12:15 PM PDT on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
19:27 cait @wunder Reno, Nevada
19:27 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
19:26 cait @wunder Reno
19:26 jcamins And %ENV doesn't show an HTTPS member at all.
19:26 jcamins But $ENV{'HTTPS'} returns OFF.
19:24 jcamins $input->https() returns 'HTTPS'
19:22 gmcharlt as that's when it starts explicitly supporting SSL
19:22 jcamins %ENV seems not to be doing the trick here.
19:22 jcamins How do I see _all_ environment variables that are set?
19:22 gmcharlt one thing I'm seeing is that it looks like psgi.url_scheme would get set correctly if one is using starman >= 0.4000
19:21 * jcamins kicks his server repeatedly.
19:21 jcamins And seems improbable.
19:21 jcamins Which is... weird.
19:20 jcamins The ON/OFF thing is only for if you are not using a reverse proxy.
19:20 jcamins If you are using a reverse proxy with Plack, HTTPS is not set at all.
19:20 jcamins gmcharlt: okay, I have figured it out.
19:19 jcamins That makes sense.
19:18 jcamins I see.
19:18 jcamins Ah.
19:18 cait just updating the date in the new field
19:18 cait no messages if the patch applies i think
19:18 jcamins I wonder if it's my e-mail or a change in bot behavior.
19:17 jcamins This is odd. I'm seeing status changes from the bot but no messages.
19:14 jcamins CGI::Emulate::PSGI 0.12.
19:14 jcamins Looks like it was.
19:13 jcamins Hm.
19:13 gmcharlt hope that $Foo::Bar::VERSION is defined
19:13 jcamins How do I find out the version of a Perl module?
19:12 jcamins This is... odd.
19:11 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Hackfest
19:11 cait hm hope people agree with the idea... i started a wiki page for the hackfest:
19:09 jcamins Hm. Hold on.
19:08 jcamins Okay, I probably wouldn't push it then.
19:08 jcamins No.
19:08 jcamins Let me check.
19:07 gmcharlt jcamins: OK, to be clear, does $using_https get computed correctly under Plack with his patch?
19:06 jcamins i.e. I would probably push as-is, and kick the can down the road a little further on Plack+HTTPS-only.
19:06 jcamins gmcharlt: Jonathan's third patch looks reasonable to me, though.
19:05 jcamins Presumably.
19:03 mtompset Will packages eventually use Plack by default?
19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , plack scripts for developers
19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Contact note not updating via opac
19:02 cait bug 7844
19:02 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC
19:02 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #118: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/118/
19:01 jcamins Seems reasonable to me.
19:00 gmcharlt ought we to take up 7844 again and just ship a Plack config?
19:00 gmcharlt hmm, yeah
18:58 jcamins Just the wiki.
18:58 jcamins There's not really anywhere in Koha for that patch to go.
18:58 gmcharlt could you work up a patch for that?
18:57 jcamins Makes sense to me.
18:56 gmcharlt I'm inclined to run with that, then -- reasonably supporting SSL-only is too important, IMO
18:54 jcamins I already use ReverseProxy middleware for myself.
18:54 jcamins Every time I bring up reverse proxies, it seems like someone objects. Other than that, no.
18:53 gmcharlt jcamins: any reason not to do that?
18:52 jcamins Yeah.
18:52 mtompset Ah, that question.
18:51 gmcharlt short of baking in https://github.com/plack/Plack/wiki/How-to-detect-reverse-proxy-and-SSL-frontend in the default Plack config, I suppose?
18:51 mtompset ???
18:50 jcamins gmcharlt: indeed, I'm not entirely sure it can be done from within the CGI-emulated system.
18:48 jcamins gmcharlt: unfortunately, it's kind of difficult.
18:46 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update staff list image
18:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #369: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/369/
18:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #369 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:44 cait gmcharlt++ :)
18:41 mtompset You're welcome. :)
18:40 maximep mtompset++
18:33 mtompset Though, I suppose the use of any over grep wasn't a big thing back then. :)
18:33 mtompset vs. changing one line (3.10.x)
18:32 mtompset The first patch is an addition of one line.
18:32 mtompset The second patch is basically identical.
18:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, REOPENED , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl
18:32 mtompset maximep: patch posted on the bug 9046.
18:28 druthb finally, getting to hack some Ruby code! wahoo!
18:25 mtompset Seriously... 2 minutes.
18:25 maximep would be better if I could have time to do the 3.8 backport myself, but oh well
18:25 mtompset maximep: You trained them well then. :)
18:24 maximep *saves
18:24 maximep save me from doing it lol
18:24 maximep I just love when my client asks questions here :D
18:24 oleonard In the past I've seen patches for previous versions go on the same bug mtompset
18:22 mtompset So, if I decide to post the backport, should I start a new bug for the 3.8.x version, or do I change the status of RESOLVED FIXED on the old one?
18:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #118 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10911 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Records with 880 fields have broken details links in intranet search results using XSLT.
18:21 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields
18:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #117: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/117/
18:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4713a27280b9ee0956c4f2d9ee0e63b12260db01>
18:14 oleonard We support releases as long as there is a release maintainer who wants to do it
18:13 mtompset Which frankly is a really long support cycle for 3.8.x
18:11 cait i only confuse numbers these days :)
18:10 mtompset 3.8.18 was just released.
18:10 cait tcohen++
18:10 mtompset yes.
18:10 cait hm we still maintain 3.8... right?
18:10 cait mtompset: if she will update to 3.12 soon i am not sure it will be used
18:10 bgkriegel go relax tcohen
18:10 mtompset tcohen++
18:10 mtompset Well, you got a release done.
18:09 tcohen tough day here
18:09 tcohen bye #koha
18:08 mtompset What do you think, cait?
18:07 mtompset Should I submit the backport?
18:06 mtompset Just a tiny conflict to resolve.
18:06 mtompset Actually the bug is easy enough to backport.
18:04 marjorieCCSR cait: thanks for your help. bye
18:03 cait marjorieCCSR: ok :)
18:02 marjorieCCSR cait: we will have 3.12 soon, so i will wait.
18:01 cait it attaches a marc file - but i tmight be missing the item data too
18:01 cait but you coudl try sending yourself a cart with your records from the opac
18:01 cait hm it might be also affected by this bug
18:01 marjorieCCSR cait: ok
18:01 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
18:00 mtompset we're talking about 3.8.5
18:00 mtompset oh, never mind.
18:00 mtompset But comment 7 says it was pushed to master, cait.
18:00 huginn marjorieCCSR: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
17:59 cait I think updating might be problematic for you (customizations?), but maybe it could be backported
17:59 cait the problem is, the bug was only fixed in 3.10
17:58 cait saves us from copying bugzilla links :)
17:58 cait marjorieCCSR: huginn is a bot :) he reacted to my 'bug 9046' :)
17:58 marjorieCCSR huginn : ok thanks
17:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl
17:57 cait bug 9046
17:57 cait hm
17:56 marjorieCCSR ok thanks
17:56 cait marjorieCCSR: checking if i can find a bug in bugzilla
17:55 tcohen =~ /CCSR//
17:54 cait marjorieCCSR: that's qute old by now
17:53 marjorieCCSR cait: 3.08.05
17:52 tcohen cait: ok, thanks
17:52 cait marjorieCCSR: which version of koha are you on?
17:52 cait tcohen: i think it already is public - on twiter and everywhere?
17:51 tcohen i mean, if this gets approved: will this go public?
17:50 tcohen do we need to properly answer the questions at SE magnuse?
17:50 marjorieCCSR hi, export data tool do not export items of one record ? on the other side, it works when i save on marcUTF8 directly in a biblio record. Is anyone tested export data tool with item?
17:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #117 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT should be removed
17:38 jenkins_koha Mathieu Saby: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files
17:38 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #116: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/116/
17:31 tweetbot_ [off] @KohaILS: "#KohaILS Koha 3.12.5 released http://t.co/vxwKpLyR88"
17:24 mtompset Cherry and rum filled chocolate balls? ;)
17:23 druthb good plan!
17:22 cait chocolate is :)
17:22 cait druthb: alcohol is no solution
17:21 druthb Whiskey?
17:21 * druthb perks.
17:21 mtompset rambuten: I think it only becomes a whiskey in progress at beer o'clock.
17:20 mtompset Ah... because I did see it run once on a bug that I commented on.
17:19 rambuten whiskey in progress?
17:18 mtompset wip?
17:18 cait mtompset: i think it might still be wip
17:16 mtompset I found a bug that needed sign off, but it didn't apply.
17:15 mtompset Wasn't that bot for checking "Needs Signoff" going to be running?
17:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=115a3e6b60cab0e5000483575ca69736bb40ee2c>
17:09 druthb I'm just *stunned* more than frustrated.
17:08 mtompset True, but if you are frustrated, sometimes you are pushed to do not so good things.
17:07 cait mtompset: she just got new skin on that, so it doesn't seem like a good idea
17:07 druthb One of the Ruby 'thangs' is called 'test-driven development". Write your tests before you write your code.
17:06 mtompset Your self-control is admirable.
17:05 druthb tempting, mtompset. Very, very tempting.
17:04 * mtompset can imagine druthb flaying the speaker with a prosthetic leg screaming, "We already know git. Where is the Ruby Code?!"
17:01 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update cover images w/ delete
17:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #368: SUCCESS in 11 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/368/
17:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #368 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:59 * druthb bangs her head against the desk
16:57 druthb omg. I just *told* her she has put the cart before the horse….and she totally isn't getting it.
16:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #116 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10847 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Open external link to website of a vendor in new tab/window
16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10305 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , _increment_barcode is called twice
16:56 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window
16:56 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice
16:56 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #115: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/115/
16:56 druthb She's teaching us how to test Ruby code—before we've actually seen any Ruby code.
16:55 druthb uhm.
16:55 druthb we're paying her for this? Lordy.
16:54 rambuten well
16:54 druthb I agree, rambuten…but this one is in our shop, so all the usual amenities are here—catered lunch, free sodas, our usual restroom, and smokin' fast wifi.
16:52 rambuten Sometimes it's important to judge such training sessions by the amenities. How are the hors d'oeuvres? Good coffee? Variety of fruit juices? Nice, clean restrooms? Free pens, notepaper, coffee cups?
16:51 druthb Inadequate preparation, lack of knowledge about our company, lack of listening to our needs… not impressed.
16:48 druthb Ruby on Rails deployment and administration.
16:48 cait druthb: what's the training about officially?
16:46 druthb (almost 3 hours in…and haven't seen a *line* of Ruby code.
16:46 druthb I just kind of wonder if we're actually going to see any Ruby code. We haven't, yet.
16:45 druthb mtompset: lady named Renée De Voursney. Owns her own Ruby consultancy in Seattle.
16:44 huginn druthb: Quote #173: "rangi: there is so much stuff in Koha that is a result of 'omg my staff wont do what they are told to. Please punish the whole world for me.'" (added by wizzyrea at 05:10 PM, December 09, 2011)
16:44 druthb @quote random
16:44 mtompset druthb: Who is teaching?
16:43 * gmcharlt is still traumatized by the executable line noise that is edi4r
16:43 druthb darn.
16:43 gmcharlt druthb: no
16:43 druthb oh, and now she's carrying on about a ruby gem that acts as a wrapper for git… can we do that with Koha, gmcharlt, and confuse *everyone*? Pleeeeeeease?
16:38 druthb That's been done, by someone else. She even asked, "you guys familiar with git?" "yep."
16:37 oleonard Why not, druthb? Raise you hand and politely say that she's covering something you're familiar with?
16:36 cait who is?
16:36 cait hm?
16:36 druthb Do not.
16:36 druthb do not tempt me in that fashion, oleonard.
16:35 oleonard Someone stop her
16:35 druthb oh, gods…now she's teaching a room full of coders who use git *every day* about git.
16:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=54befcf59ed85be0041d72760eb1771bcce0492e>
16:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d67ef01814fb4ba1519d66d9ad749dfa64e62a76> / Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=449fc4e168368cc3b1991152f32a2862b578a04c>
16:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #115 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8952 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Add http:// to url in social media links on opac-detail
16:03 gmcharlt jcamins: apropos of bug 8952, what /is/ the canonical way for a Plack application to tell if a given request was made over HTTP or HTTPS?
15:56 druthb Oh, I'm listening to one of those now. She's done everything but solve world hunger, apparently, but didn't know what cPanel does as a business.
15:54 rambuten I've known Ruby developers that are just totally worshipers of the language, and claim to do great and wonderous works with it.
15:48 druthb puh
15:48 wahanui ruby is probably easy to install. Any > 1.8.7 works fine
15:48 druthb wahanui: ruby?
15:48 druthb Ruby is a language where they have a fetish about not using standard development terms: threads are called "fibers", libraries are "gems"…wait, what?
15:31 marjorieCCSR ok bye, thanks
15:30 kf i am sorry, i have to run
15:30 kf marjorieCCSR: yes, it looks like it
15:30 marjorieCCSR i think there is a problem to export
15:29 kf marjorieCCSR: not sure about your problem - if the record has no items, that's the problem. Depending on the version you come from it might be a bug fixed
15:29 gaetan_B bye !
15:29 marjorieCCSR kf: ok thanks
15:29 kf marjorieCCSR: I am sorry, i am at work and couldn't check IRC for a while.
15:26 reiveune bye
15:25 * druthb is in a Ruby on Rails class today and tomorrow, so the snark may be running thick. Beware.
15:24 nengard um
15:24 * druthb looks innocent.
15:24 druthb ohai, nengard!
15:24 * druthb blames nengard.
15:22 wahanui :)
15:22 druthb wahanui: botsnack Ruby on Rails trainer
15:21 * druthb nods.
15:21 wahanui somebody said ruby on rails was a poor perversion of Perl done by people who apparently didn't think the Perl community was "nice" enough.
15:21 druthb ruby on rails?
15:21 druthb Ruby on Rails is a poor perversion of Perl done by people who apparently didn't think the Perl community was "nice" enough.
15:20 druthb oh.
15:20 wahanui druthb: i don't know
15:20 druthb wahanui: ruby on rails?
15:20 druthb oleonard: I'd rather do that, than what I'm doing.
15:16 marjorieCCSR kf: sorry. in the file mrc imported there is no 952 but when i did the export i choose to export items.
15:15 * oleonard keels over
15:15 oleonard Hooray! An hour and fifteen minutes talking about RDA!
14:18 tweetbot_ [off] @tomasitonone: "Koha 3.12.5 released #KohaILS http://t.co/g8fLNtdPew"
14:10 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #144: "library_systems_guy: (xslt) looks like html and lisp had an ugly baby." (added by wizzyrea at 08:48 PM, June 30, 2011)
14:10 gmcharlt @quote random
14:05 marjorieCCSR yes but they are not in the biblio. When i made the import, the message for the items was good "Number of items added 703"
14:00 kf marjorieCCSR: if you are using marc21 there shoudl be 952 fields
14:00 kf marjorieCCSR: oh. did you check your record has items actually?
14:00 marjorieCCSR yes
13:59 kf marjorieCCSR: did you select that items hsould be created in staged marc import?
13:51 marjorieCCSR import was successful but the items were not created.
13:49 marjorieCCSR I can export the good biblio with the items from a backup and i tried to import it
13:47 marjorieCCSR ok, i will try to explain
13:46 kf marjorieCCSR: i think we need more information about what you want to do
13:46 kf marjorieCCSR: aah, then i might have misunderstood what you meant with deleted
13:45 marjorieCCSR i tried to use stage marc record, the biblio was imported very well but not the items
13:44 tcohen testing 3.12.5 tarball install
13:44 tcohen oh, koha-perldeps, not koha-deps
13:44 kf marjorieCCSR: you can query the information of your deleted biblios using reports and the deletedbiblio, deletedbiblioitems and deleteditems tables
13:43 kf marjorieCCSR: such things were possible in very early version of Koha (so I have been told), but some of it got lost along the way. it would be a nice feature to bring back
13:43 kf marjorieCCSR: it's currently not possible, the data is still there, but there is no functionality to recover it using the interface
13:42 marjorieCCSR how to recover a biblio deleted
13:42 marjorieCCSR i'm french so excuse for my poor english
13:41 marjorieCCSR ok thanks, it's the first time i use tchat
13:41 kf marjorieCCSR: you will have to ask it for us to answer :)
13:40 nengard kf i have the format saved for easy recreation - not the data
13:39 marjorieCCSR hi, i have a question for deleted biblio
13:38 kf nengard: it hink maybe you we should delete the data from the old surveys at some point
13:37 kf nengard: i think drojf is almost done
13:37 drojf ok then i'll add the field. gotta run. see you later
13:37 samueld i've a question : as member of the team for the next release, i 've been elected as vm manager (and for the documentation).I begin to work on it but i 'd like to know where this vm could be hosted and how to plan the release of the vm. I've vm for 3.12 but in french for the moment :-)
13:37 * jcamins has a friend who uses example.tld for his mail server.
13:36 nengard validation = make sure it's formatted as an actual email address
13:36 nengard :)
13:36 * oleonard pities the poor survey participants who work for test.com
13:36 nengard if you all need i can just recreate the old one ... no one asked me to this time ... but I have it all set on my server still from the last 2
13:36 drojf and by validation you mean the format of an email address or something that checks if you can send an email to it?
13:35 nengard and skimmed them with my eyes for fake ones (@test.com) or whatever
13:35 nengard validation in limesurvey
13:35 drojf in limesurvey? or manually?
13:35 nengard to make sure it was valid
13:35 nengard and i had a validation script set up
13:35 nengard drojf i checked them
13:34 jcamins You need some sort of identifying information, for when someone challenges the results, and IP address is probably the least identifiable.
13:34 samueld hi everybody
13:34 drojf i was thinking of email addresses, but since they are not checked you could fill that with anything too ;)
13:32 kf drojf: I think a unique email address would make sense to me, and a note ont he front page that it won't be published, ip addresses not tracked etc.
13:32 nengard I have the old surveys still on my server
13:32 nengard and asked for organization but didn't require it
13:32 kf drojf: I think we required a name and email address in the past
13:32 nengard drojf in past years i didn't track IPs just emails - you had to have a unique email address
13:32 kf :)
13:32 kf jcamins: that's not the question here - it's a privacy question
13:31 jcamins drojf: may as well because disk space is cheap?
13:31 drojf i would not publish the addresses afterwards of course
13:30 drojf i am not sure if i want to record the IP addresses of the votes. i'm not planning to do real checking (and multiple votes from an ip can of course be normal), but it might be useful to see if hundreds of votes come from the same place. on the other hand, i don't think anybody cared about that the last years, so i'm not sure. opinions?
13:28 * drojf would like an opulent feast
13:27 drojf or a nice moose
13:27 drojf well, in norway you probably have to go and hunt that bear first and that count as part of the preparation? :P
13:27 drojf oh i did not read that magnuse was going to make some. i thought kf was havong dinner
13:27 * kf imagines an opulent feast
13:26 kf hm
13:26 oleonard He didn't specify how long it would take him to make dinner
13:25 drojf dinner at 15:30?
13:25 kf hi drojf
13:25 drojf hi kf
13:25 drojf rofl. thanks oleonard
13:24 kf dinner... it's so early!
13:20 oleonard http://vimeo.com/62471659
13:17 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner - happy bug squashing #koha!
13:15 drojf yes i have found out that much :)
13:15 jcamins It's an SNL skit.
13:14 drojf oh, it's also no longer available due to copyright. so much for that
13:14 drojf ah, leo has a link to that reference, can't watch it here ;)
13:13 drojf jcamins: cowbell? :D
13:12 marcelr drojf: complain about whatever you like? a dutch site?
13:12 jcamins drojf: I need more cowbell!
13:11 drojf magnuse++ kf++ for trying
13:11 drojf you can still test run the kohacon vote and complain about whatever you like ;) http://abunchofthings.net/limesurvey/index.php/968417/lang-en
13:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10092 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Small improvements on serial missinglist and receivedlist
13:04 marcelr oleonard: a small patch waiting for some time already? bug 10092
13:01 drojf i did not know it found its way to #koha ;)
13:00 drojf oleonard: oh, that evil @laternapping i have heard of
13:00 magnuse wahanui++ yeah that was impressive
13:00 mtompset Not enough caffeine yet.
13:00 mtompset DOH! It must be morning.
13:00 oleonard wahanui++
13:00 wahanui log is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
13:00 oleonard Someone else signed in as drojf and stole them?
13:00 mtompset what log?
12:59 drojf the log says i should be getting @-later-s. yet there are none. funny
12:59 magnuse because it would give us the possibility to down-vote less-than-ideal answers
12:59 jcamins oleonard: right-o, thanks.
12:59 oleonard I hear Koha support questions are not yet being inserted dynamically into your dreams jcamins
12:58 * mtompset chuckles.
12:58 mtompset Greetings, drojf jcamins oleonard magnuse kf.
12:58 oleonard Because you don't have enough different Koha support venues to follow jcamins
12:58 drojf hello again #koha
12:57 jcamins Someone remind me why we need a StackExchange site?
12:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7764 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , INSTALL.ubuntu needs to be updated
12:56 mtompset bug 7764
12:56 mtompset how about 7764?
12:55 mtompset oleonard: read the code, you'll be scared.
12:55 * oleonard isn't qualified to evaluate that patch
12:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10900 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Incorrect calling conventions accessing C4::Context
12:55 mtompset bug 10900
12:54 oleonard Anyone have a patch they'd like to promote?
12:50 tcohen they seem to be using it to run some library stuff
12:50 oleonard What's the connection to Koha?
12:49 tcohen Nahhhh, stick with Wine1.6 instead!
12:48 tweetbot_ [off] @shangueh: "WinIBW sous Wine1.4 pose des problèmes avec l'aide en ligne (urlmon.dll). Retour sous Wine1.2.2. #KohaILS"
12:44 magnuse let's all shout to wake up wizzyrea
12:44 magnuse oh noes
12:42 oleonard Ouch, responsive demo broken.
12:42 magnuse yay!
12:42 tcohen indeed
12:41 magnuse tcohen: are you a follower yet? ;-)
12:37 tcohen magnuse++
12:36 magnuse nudge nudge http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60300/koha-open-source-library-software?referrer=Owta03DIt70A0SJwD4uepg2
12:34 magnuse hiya tcohen
12:34 tcohen hi magnuse , #koha
12:31 magnuse oleonard: you still have something like 21.5 hours to go, if you choose hawaii time
12:30 kf oleonard: i am sure you are going to make up for th emissed time :)
12:28 mtompset It isn't about quantity. It's about quality. :)
12:27 * oleonard doesn't like bug squashing days that start during his weekend--cuts down on bug-squashing time
12:27 mtompset Greetings, oleonard.
12:27 oleonard Hi #koha
12:24 mtompset How goes the bug squashing day?
12:24 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
11:55 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
11:55 kf @later tell drojf: works fine for me too :)
11:53 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
11:53 magnuse @later tell drojf: the limesurvey thingy works nicely for me
11:53 magnuse drojf++
11:15 drojf have to leave for the library, will check the log later
11:13 drojf http://abunchofthings.net/limesurvey/index.php/968417/lang-en
11:12 drojf i put up a limesurvey thingy for the kohacon vote. would be nice if some people could try if it works ok and if so i'd start a fresh copy later today and send it to the lists
11:11 drojf :D
11:11 wizzyrea_web welcome to monday
11:11 wizzyrea_web hallo
11:10 drojf hi #koha
10:29 magnuse wink wink
10:28 wizzyrea_web http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60300/koha-open-source-library-software nudge nudge
10:26 magnuse wizzyrea++
10:14 wizzyrea_web hallo kf!
10:13 * kf waves at wizzyrea
10:11 wizzyrea_web so many things to do.
10:11 wizzyrea_web oy I need to get back with her.
10:03 magnuse :-)
10:03 magnuse "Failed QA" and "Doesn't apply" are deacreasing, at least
10:02 magnuse cjh++
10:02 magnuse kia ora wizzyrea_web!
10:02 magnuse half way numbers: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-23_Global_bug_squashing_day#Middle
10:00 * wizzyrea_web waves
09:53 rangi :) sleep well
09:52 cjh new email sent, file re-uploaded.
09:52 cjh and in theory that is all fixed.. sorry about that all, bed time for me I think.
09:45 magnuse sounds like the related css might need a patch?
09:43 kf sorry :)
09:43 * kf curses aobut the daily quotes not moving to the left where i want them to be.
09:42 kf oh
09:42 cjh nz isps, vodafone bought telstraclear[C
09:41 kf new owners?
09:40 rangi yeah its been patchy since the new owners took over
09:40 rangi heh
09:39 cjh tlc also appear to be having some network faults(80% packet loss at a node, only getting 60Kb/s to kc), so my upload bailed out at 99% without me noticing, not exactly a smooth release :)
09:35 rangi no worries
09:34 cjh ty for catching that.
09:33 rangi hehe yeah its fine on the website
09:33 cjh ohh bugger, I must have loaded the wrong file into my email client :(
09:32 rangi hmm might have just been your email :)
09:30 cjh oh the 'the last koha release was...' part
09:30 cjh you are kidding, one moment
09:29 rangi cjh: around? release notes say 3.8.14
09:25 kf 18 already? wow
09:23 tweetbot_ [off] @_cjh: "Koha 3.8.18 released #KohaILS http://t.co/M8GinXRreL"
09:18 magnuse kf: um yup!
08:41 wahanui it has been said that here is where I work
08:41 kf magnuse: here?
08:27 kf hi rangi_eifl :)
07:52 kf tcohen++ bgkriegel++ # all the hard work
07:51 kf magnuse: not directly... but maybe
07:51 magnuse ah, not directly related, i guess
07:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects
07:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po file for help pages
07:48 wahanui more po files are bug 7934 and bug 7939
07:48 magnuse more po files?
07:45 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
07:45 kf @later tell bgkriegel - seeing your po file for the marc frameworks - great idea :) would it be possible to show the field/subfield somehow in a comment?
07:44 kf bgkriegel++
07:41 kf um not yet
07:41 magnuse signed up for stack exchange yet?
07:40 magnuse guten morgen kf
07:40 kf good morning #koha
07:29 magnuse http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60300/koha-open-source-library-software?referrer=Owta03DIt70A0SJwD4uepg2 needs 52 more followers - can we get there?
07:06 samueld hi everybody
06:56 rangi_eifl heh, timezone fail, its one more hour
06:56 wahanui hola, gaetan_B
06:56 gaetan_B hello
06:52 rangi_eifl https://gnu.org/gnu30/gnu30.html
06:52 reiveune hello
06:51 rangi_eifl we should do something for this
06:51 rangi_eifl https://gnu.org/gnu30/celebration
06:51 magnuse banks tend to like java aplets, but i guess they like to p0wn people...
06:50 rangi_eifl hence using the oftc web thinger
06:50 rangi_eifl which can asplode when i finish
06:50 rangi_eifl so its running in its own vm
06:49 rangi_eifl cos, i had disabled all that .. who does java applets anymore .. people who like to p0wn people, and webinar software
06:48 rangi_eifl had to jump through hoops getting java installed, then allowing applets in firefox
06:48 dcook hehe
06:47 rangi_eifl you know its gonna break somehow
06:47 rangi_eifl plus computers
06:47 magnuse :-)
06:47 rangi_eifl we'll see, most of the questions I have seen are not really suited to a webinar, i suspect ill be showing a lot of links :)
06:46 magnuse cool!
06:46 rangi_eifl should be starting in 15 mins or so
06:46 magnuse http://www.eifl.net/ - ah the web seminar thingy?
06:46 rangi_eifl http://www.eifl.net/events/qa-webinar-koha-developer-chris-cormack
06:46 * magnuse pictures rangi at the top of the eifel tower in paris
06:45 magnuse eifl?
06:45 magnuse kia ora rangi_eifl
06:45 magnuse unless there is some js trickry on top of that...
06:45 magnuse hm, the colours on the "badges" that contain the numbers do seem to be hard coded: https://github.com/Koha-Community/koha-dashboard/blob/master/views/bug_status.tt
06:44 dcook ta cait
06:44 cait cya all later
06:44 cait ok, time to go to work :)
06:41 cait green is good, yellow not so much
06:40 * dcook didn't realize the colours had significance
06:39 cait passed qa is still green with 55, but we are only yellow with 34 - pff. :)
06:39 * cait wonders when the qa queue would turn green
06:39 cait i already rearranged the clothes in my wardrobe, pulling the warmer things to the front
06:38 magnuse 2 bugs qa'ed since i checked last night => there is still plenty to feed on for gbsd
06:38 cait hm we don't have the colors yet, but it's cooled down quite a bit obviously
06:38 * dcook was just thinking your weather didn't seem very summer-like :p
06:38 magnuse but autumn is definitely here, including the beautiful colours
06:37 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (4:00 PM EST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
06:37 dcook @wunder syd
06:37 magnuse hah!
06:37 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
06:37 magnuse @wunder boo
06:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.1°C (8:35 AM CEST on September 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
06:37 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:34 dcook :D
06:34 magnuse yay!
06:33 dcook It's much more streamlined and robust now
06:33 dcook Or rather...could've caused too many problems
06:33 dcook I ditched the Staged MARC import as it was causing too many problems
06:33 dcook The OAI-PMH harvester
06:33 dcook heh
06:33 cait last week is just one big blur :)
06:33 magnuse any time!
06:33 * cait doesn't know what dcook is talking about :)
06:32 * dcook thanks cait and magnuse for their encouragement last week
06:31 dcook While updates won't touch items
06:31 dcook At the moment, I think it will create/delete items...
06:31 dcook I might be able to have the harvester handle items as well
06:29 * cait is confused now
06:28 dcook Anyway, thanks, cait :)
06:27 dcook I think AddBiblio will add item records, but ModBiblio strips out the items first...
06:27 dcook Ooo..
06:26 dcook Oh wait, I think that's a good thing..
06:26 dcook O_o
06:26 dcook to be used to try to modify item records.
06:26 dcook are present in C<$record>. Consequently, ModBiblio() is not
06:26 dcook version of the bib record replace any such fields of those tags that
06:26 dcook item, biblioitem, and biblionumber fields from the previous
06:26 dcook The embedded
06:25 dcook Hmm, actually, maybe embedded items are included...that's not good..
06:25 magnuse submit it anyway and just say items don't work :-)
06:23 magnuse hehe
06:23 dcook As far as I know..
06:23 dcook I've re-engineered my OAI-PMH harvester, but it currently can't handle items either
06:23 dcook Mmm, ok
06:23 cait magnuse: yep, not worldcat :)
06:23 cait dcook: we handle them in koha, because we couldn't update them currently
06:23 magnuse ah, ok. i was thinking about worldcat
06:22 cait magnuse: well pica is owned by oclc
06:22 magnuse no oclc there, i think
06:21 dcook Are they added in OCLC or in Koha?
06:21 dcook With your union catalogue, how are items handled?
06:21 cait yep
06:20 dcook Hey cait, have time for a quick question?
06:16 magnuse happy GBSD #koha!
06:16 * magnuse waves
06:12 cait well, a lot of the 'doesn't apply' and 'I have a question' ones will bounce back today probably
06:11 marcelr yes: 35 now
06:11 cait i think we have a historical low in the queue :) let's see if gbsd can bring the numbers back up
06:10 cait because i have to set up all kinds of test cases before i run the database update to check if the correct status gets set
06:10 marcelr :)
06:10 cait just not starting with it this morning
06:10 cait i hope to take a look at acq search tonight
06:09 marcelr yes i think so
06:09 cait i am a bit worried if it will allow the same flexibility
06:09 cait it sure is huge
06:09 cait i marked some as new features, i was pondering this to be one too... but it seems more a restructuring
06:09 cait marcelr: yeah :(
06:08 marcelr nine patches
06:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8956 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Split serials enumeration data into separate fields
06:08 marcelr i applied bug 8956 but it is quite huge
06:07 marcelr hi cait
06:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10808 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Thesaurus search form does not correspond to current search query
06:07 cait hm bug 10808 might just fit in before work
06:04 cait good morning marcelr
05:57 marcelr morning #koha
05:55 cjh wizzyrea++ stack overflow
05:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10825 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Failed QA , detail.tt displays duplicated enumchron values for serial items
05:52 mtj aaah, bug 10825 , i think...
05:51 cait mtj: I think i had a question about one of oyur patches, but i can't remember the bug :(
05:51 cait hi mtj
05:48 mtj heya cait
05:26 cait good morning #koha
05:05 eythian I can't post anything right now, it tells me to wait 3 minutes.
05:05 wizzyrea and seriously I will need help tending this.
05:04 wizzyrea but! I will fight through this annoyance to soldier on ;)
05:04 wizzyrea plus this every 3 minutes thing is irritating to me :P
05:03 wizzyrea so please do
05:03 wizzyrea I think you all can add them too?
05:03 eythian you wouldn't ask for a report involving X and Y, and it's harder for people looking at it to see the relevance if it's dummy questions.
05:03 dcook ^^
05:03 eythian > Write an actual question that you might ask on this site.
05:02 eythian they're supposed to be examples of real things
05:02 wizzyrea Hm they are supposed to be examples though?
05:02 eythian put real ones in.
05:01 eythian like X and Y
05:01 eythian I wouldn't put those fake questions in
05:01 mtj yes, and yes
05:01 wizzyrea anyway - gotta fly, I'm depending on you all. :)
05:01 wizzyrea and it *seems* more accessible to lay-people maybe? idk
05:01 wizzyrea upvoting and downvoting would be super helpful
05:01 wizzyrea and we've been flagging a bit on questions answered on the lists.
05:00 wizzyrea yep I do too
05:00 mtj fwiw, i do see some advantages to stack-exchange over the mailling-lists
04:59 wizzyrea also please feel free to create example questions
04:59 dcook I'm down
04:58 wizzyrea and it will only work if we get a rather big corpus of people asking and answering questions
04:57 wizzyrea because even though I started it and I'm willing to put time towards it, I can't be the only one
04:57 eythian yeah
04:57 wizzyrea if someone else wants to send that to the list, I'd be happy
04:57 mtj wizzyrea++ aweSUMMM!!
04:56 wizzyrea oon stack overflow
04:56 wahanui tags are more for flagging a point in time
04:56 dcook tags?
04:55 wizzyrea i thought having our own might be nicer.
04:55 wizzyrea we could still use tags to do koha questions
04:55 wizzyrea well, if we get a bit of a critical mass we can.
04:55 dcook I had a friend ask last year why we didn't do something on stackexchange
04:55 dcook Hmm. Cool beans.
04:53 tweetbot_ [off] @wizzyrea: "Spread that link far and wide, peeps. I wanna see it all over everything. #KohaILS"
04:50 wizzyrea no seriously, pass it on
04:50 wizzyrea http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/60300/koha-open-source-library-software?referrer=11ffo9kVFxwA0SJwD4uepg2 < Going to give this a go - pass it on
04:37 wizzyrea http://area51.stackexchange.com/
04:36 wizzyrea do they think koha is a CMS?
04:35 wizzyrea errr
04:33 cjh koha has gold and diamond classes :o
04:33 eythian http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17607624/is-there-a-way-to-upgrade-a-package-of-koha-from-the-opac-instead-of-the-staff <-- I have no idea what this question is even trying to ask.
04:32 eythian :D
04:28 dcook I should be eating lunch but...live stream...
04:09 dcook internet++
04:06 eythian I figured out (by copying the instructions on a website that explained how to do it.)
04:06 dcook Alas, I think that's beyond my spreadsheet fu
04:00 eythian Like select distinct or grouping in sql would give you
04:00 eythian anyone know how to get a list of the distinct values in a spreadsheet column?
03:52 eythian ta
03:47 dcook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEEcvj6X_h4&feature=inp-lt-rbr
03:46 eythian link?
03:44 dcook [off] For any Iron Maiden fans, there's a live show on Youtube. Just sayin'...
03:40 * druthb wonders idly if bag is about--it's early there yet, and a little bit of THE crazy would be a nice capper to a nice weekend. :P
03:39 druthb o/
03:31 tweetbot_ [off] @KohaAloha: "@gmacmanus, for starters, try the Koha mailing-lists or #Koha on irc -> http://t.co/VEVsWau4ji #KohaILS"
02:54 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
01:23 rambutan ok, well, I'm going to check out for the evening, cul.
01:23 rambutan <chauffeur>
01:23 mtompset I'm the only fully licensed person in the household. :(
01:22 rambutan and you have a chauffer's license
01:22 mtompset As my wife doesn't have classes from midnight to 5am, I don't think there will be a problem. :)
01:22 rambutan ic
01:22 mtompset G is fully licensed.
01:21 mtompset G2 is licensed, but still not fully. Curfews and other driving restrictions.
01:21 mtompset G1 is learner's permit, must have accompanying fully licensed driver.
01:19 rambutan what specifically is g2?
01:12 mtompset Then a significant chunk of chauffeuring disappears.
01:11 mtompset That's why I'm hoping for my wife to get her G2 license, so she can drive herself to school.
01:10 rambutan I would tend to agree!
01:10 mtompset The problem is between sleep, driving, and working, there isn't much time for anything else.
01:10 mtompset Thankfully, my work schedule is very flexible.
01:09 mtompset No, I live in a town where there is no public transit except one provincial one at impossibly useless times.
01:08 mtompset Add in my 40 minutes round trips chauffeuring my brother to work, and my driving schedule goes crazy.
01:08 rambutan gee, do you live in Yellowknife?
01:07 mtompset At worst, I drive into the Toronto office once a week and that's only 1 hour round trip.
01:06 mtompset Work... I work from home generally, so no driving involved.
01:06 mtompset Driving during the week gets worse, I spend about 3hours a day M, Th, and F driving my wife to and from school.
01:05 rambutan ah, no, ic ic
01:05 rambutan mtompset: you aren't driving that far to work, are you?
01:04 rambutan bye tcohen
01:04 mtompset Bye, tcohen. :)
01:04 mtompset Come to think of it, 20+20+60+60 = 2.667h, 35+45+60 = 2.333h -- I spend about 2-3 hours driving every Sunday. Strange for a day of rest. ;)
01:03 tcohen bye mtompset, #koha
01:02 tcohen plus several family meetings
01:01 tcohen tennis of course :-D
01:01 mtompset my Sunday's are generally filled with driving from church to church. :)
01:01 mtompset playing tennis?
01:00 tcohen busy sunday, i just got home
00:59 tcohen hi mtompset
00:59 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
00:52 mtompset Because I have an enhancement I'd like in 3.14, but if it doesn't hit feature slush, then it won't make it. And it is dependent on two other of my bugs.
00:51 mtompset but everyone has their own bugs they are working on too. :)
00:50 mtompset I was hoping that 10900 would be looked at. :)
00:50 rambutan busy week coming up
00:50 mtompset is the 25th.
00:50 wahanui i think feature slush is the date stuff that got passed-qa makes it into 3.14 with high probability
00:50 mtompset feature slush?
00:50 mtompset given that...
00:50 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-24_QA_Sprint_Day
00:50 mtompset Followed by a QA Sprint day.
00:49 wahanui somebody said gbsd was Global Bug Squashing Day
00:49 mtompset gbsd?
00:49 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-23_Global_bug_squashing_day
00:48 rambutan there's probably a wahanui trigger for it
00:48 rambutan i don't recall
00:47 mtompset Isn't The 23rd a GBSD?
00:47 rambutan ah, well good
00:47 mtompset I got my little bit of work done. YAY! :)
00:47 mtompset Greetings, rambutan.
00:47 rambutan hi mtompset
00:47 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:46 rambutan hi BobB
00:19 BobB :)
00:19 wahanui kai ora, BobB
00:19 BobB hi