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21:41 rambutan I'll read about it later.
21:40 rambutan nope, blocked
21:40 rangi rambutan: did that link work for you?
21:40 rangi tense
21:40 rangi evening up
21:39 cait boo
21:39 rangi crapsticks oracle leading
21:38 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmbRX6EQ5Tg <-- live
21:38 rangi dunno if there is live here
21:38 rangi https://www.youtube.com/americascup
21:37 rangi not sure if tehre is a feed in the US im sure the tvnz live stream will be geoblocked
21:37 rangi on the tv
21:35 rambutan rangi: are you watching something on the internet? share link?
21:34 rangi (thats like 60kmph)
21:34 rangi boats are doing 30 knots already
21:34 cait fingers crossed
21:33 rangi bit more wind now
21:33 rangi right, racing again
21:28 jcamins Aww, man, I missed a Twitter conversation about what I was working on last week!
21:21 jcamins The staff client changes I of course noticed.
21:20 jcamins Oh, well, first time I noticed it.
21:20 cait i think someone said something about that
21:16 jcamins has anyone else noticed that the tabs on the 3.12 OPAC support keyboard navigation?
21:16 jcamins Whoah...
21:01 rangi well that sucked
20:58 druthb I'm headed out for the weekend. Take care, everyone. :)
20:57 druthb Aw, darn, have to give them another sound thrashing. Aw, shucks.
20:57 rangi druthb: its always fun to make larry ellison cry
20:57 rangi got like 3 mins
20:57 cait :(
20:57 rangi gonna have to race again
20:57 rangi we arent gonna make it :(
20:56 * druthb feels a little guilty saying that she's glad NZ is whipping Oracle Team USA in the America's Cup like they're red-headed stepchildren…but not much.
20:56 cait oh
20:55 rangi dumb
20:55 rangi and have to race again
20:55 rangi but now racing the clock, if we dont finish in time, the fact that we utterly thrashed them, means nothing
20:55 cait yay :)
20:55 rangi hmm also we are 1 km ahead of team oracle
20:52 cait rangi++
20:52 cait :)
20:51 rangi which helps find issues like that
20:51 huginn 04Bug 7684: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , inventory : datatable fix actions etc.
20:51 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7684#c66
20:50 rangi my script now tries to apply the dependencies too
20:49 rangi yeah it is
20:49 rambutan https://index.docker.io/u/jbfink/koha/ playing with it now
20:49 rambutan the Koha docker thing is pretty cool.
20:49 cait hi rangi
20:49 cait hm?
20:49 rangi hmmm
19:55 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
19:54 * mtompset puts on his chauffeur's hat again.
19:38 nengard found it i think
19:37 nengard do you know the number?
19:37 nengard well the bug is back
19:36 cait when we changed that to multiple
19:36 cait the problem is in advancedsearchtype definitions
19:36 cait yes
19:35 nengard isn't there a bug for item types not showing on the purchase suggestion form?
19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10915 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , about->timeline broken on upgraded Koha
19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10894 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , ID required for mainaddress fieldset in create new patron
19:04 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10915: (QA followup) warn if cannot read history.txt
19:04 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Bug 10915: fix About->timeline breakage on incompletely upgraded Koha
19:04 jenkins_koha * David Roberts: Bug 10894: Add ID to main address in member entry form
19:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1427: SUCCESS in 1 hr 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1427/
18:24 jcamins I think it's video/mp4
18:21 nengard jcamins how do you enter the mime type? is it type='video/mp4; codecs="avc1.42E01E, mp4a.40.2"' or just video/mp4 ? The wiki isn't clear and since you got it to work
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10915 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , about->timeline broken on upgraded Koha
18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10894 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , ID required for mainaddress fieldset in create new patron
18:16 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10915: (QA followup) warn if cannot read history.txt
18:16 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Bug 10915: fix About->timeline breakage on incompletely upgraded Koha
18:16 jenkins_koha * David Roberts: Bug 10894: Add ID to main address in member entry form
18:16 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #110: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/110/
18:08 wahanui hmmm... drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi!
18:08 cait drojf?
18:08 jcamins I think it might be in the release notes.
18:08 jcamins I don't recall.
18:08 jcamins Or, at least, two ways to specify some MIME types.
18:08 nengard and I need to update the manual too
18:08 nengard where do I put that?
18:08 jcamins There are two ways to specify every MIME type, and I chose the wrong one.
18:08 nengard the media type on the record!!
18:08 nengard oh - that's the part i'm missing
18:08 jcamins It was the media type I entered into the record.
18:08 jcamins Sorry, it's not the media type of the file that was the problem.
18:07 nengard ogg
18:07 nengard they only have one off option
18:07 nengard then used zamzar to make it an ogg
18:07 nengard i tried mov
18:07 jcamins It has to be video/ogg instead of video/[something]+ogg, which is what I did at first. Or something like that.
18:07 nengard what media type did you use that was wrong?
18:07 nengard k so i put the link in the 856 and enabled the preference and the media type in preference
18:06 jcamins I had trouble getting it to work because I had the media type wrong.
18:06 jcamins nengard: I tested it fairly recently.
18:05 nengard or a bug
18:05 nengard not sure if it's me
18:05 nengard It worked for me back when it was put in - but i'm trying it now and it's not working for me in 3.12.4
18:05 nengard has anyone used the html5media embed recently?
18:04 * cait nods
18:04 drojf i'd call it cold :P
18:00 cait :)
17:59 druthb :P
17:59 wahanui well, Germany is very cool
17:59 druthb Germany?
17:59 wahanui hmmm... Germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg
17:59 druthb Germs?
17:59 druthb My favorite Germans are here!
17:59 druthb :D
17:57 drojf druthb! :)
17:56 druthb drojf!
17:55 drojf cait! :)
17:55 cait drojf!
17:45 mtompset *sigh* We don't change flags so often, do we? (a couple Auth.pm and InstallAuth.pm set_userenv function calls were off by one parameter)
17:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Contact note not updating via opac
17:42 tweetbot_ [off] @KohaILS: "#KohaILS [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Bug 10924 - Contact note not updating via opac http://t.co/ey5cCSQZzZ"
17:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10915: (QA followup) warn if cannot read history.txt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45b85a700fcb4c9db07ec0bd13ecd8463696c4c2> / Bug 10915: fix About->timeline breakage on incompletely upgraded Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ae471a352fa2b00782c29c5c40f39db04fe510a>
17:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #1427 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #110 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:29 rambutan "Tropical Moisture From Gulf, Manuel to Soak Texas"
17:28 rambutan http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/jerry-may-form-drench-texas/17896415
17:28 druthb Manuel is on the *west* coast (Pacific). It hammered Acapulco.
17:28 * mtompset removes his chauffeur's hat.
17:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10894: Add ID to main address in member entry form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ace550530550ba72b93f34b446e681ab72024f8c>
17:28 mtompset yes, yes, slef. I made a typo.
17:27 rambutan manuel I think
17:27 druthb The front we've got coming in will keep it away from the TX coast.
17:27 druthb There's an area of very low pressure over the Gulf of Campeche, but it's not yet a depression.
17:27 druthb I'm thinking I'm gonna hole up all day tomorrow.
17:27 rambutan is there a tropical storm in the gulf? I haven't heard
17:26 druthb We got a bit overnight, but the hammer's supposed to hit late this afternoon.
17:26 rambutan We got a good rain yesterday
17:26 druthb We're supposed to be getting some serious rainfall tonight and tomorrow.
17:25 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 18.7°C (12:25 PM CDT on September 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
17:25 rambutan @wunder 64507
17:24 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 27.8°C (12:24 PM CDT on September 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
17:24 druthb @wunder 77098
17:24 tweetbot_ [off] @gmcharlt: "And now doing the "first-time code contributor to #KohaILS" happy dance."
17:23 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (7:00 PM CEST on September 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
17:23 cait @wunder Konstanz
16:47 libsysguy hbt
16:47 libsysguy oh hey, today is a rest day
16:46 libsysguy I'll probably regret the cuban during my workout today
16:44 druthb I thought about the Cuban, libsysguy, but they have a salad I just adore, so I got that instead.
16:44 oleonard I'm cutting out early, #koha. Have a good weekend.
16:43 libsysguy :p
16:43 libsysguy ewww
16:43 libsysguy jcamins, I heard about your rye sandwiches
16:43 druthb ours has a vending machine, too, oleonard, and two refrigerators, and two Keurigs.
16:43 * libsysguy already had a spicy cuban
16:42 oleonard Dang, my second-floor break room only has a week-old newspaper.
16:42 * jcamins has a sandwich.
16:41 druthb Second-floor break room, libsysguy. Rising Roll today. Not too shabby.
16:41 * libsysguy goes to write a test plan
16:41 * libsysguy heard someone say they had sandwiches
16:41 druthb speak of the devil.
16:40 druthb I think he's powered by a small singularity.
16:40 druthb libsysguy is *always* hungry.
16:38 gmcharlt hi cait
16:38 * cait is happy to have survived all the big events of this week :)
16:38 * cait waves at gmcharlt
16:37 oleonard What was it like on the outside huginn?
16:36 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #195: "jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. I think he only programs when hungry." (added by wizzyrea at 06:12 PM, March 30, 2012)
16:36 gmcharlt @quote random
16:33 cait and it doesn't happen that often
16:32 cait well it works but is not perfect :)
16:32 oleonard Sounds tedious :)
16:32 cait or something like that
16:32 cait a repeatable field, copy the cardnumber and add the date
16:31 cait yes
16:31 oleonard Putting the old card number into a patron attribute?
16:31 cait i tink
16:30 cait we have been using patron attributes
16:30 oleonard Considering out often my staff asks if I know a way to find out what someone's old card number was...
16:30 cait oleonard: sounds good
16:30 nengard that's a good one
16:30 oleonard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3469
16:30 cait and hi oleonard :)
16:29 cait bug 3469
16:29 * oleonard taps his foot and looks for huginn
16:28 * oleonard considers trying to resurrect Bug 3469
16:26 slef mtompset: CRONgratualtions?
16:19 gaetan_B bye !
16:16 cait :)
16:01 druthb missed you!
16:01 cait i am back!
16:01 cait hey :)
16:01 * cait waves back
16:00 druthb *waves*
16:00 druthb cait! Cait! CAIT!
15:48 cait Joubu++ again
15:47 yhager jcamins: ok, I'll try. thanks!
15:44 cait Joubu++
15:41 rambutan waves waves
15:40 * cait waves
15:37 jcamins Wait, no, framework editor, sorry.
15:36 jcamins yhager: Koha-to-MARC mapping in the Administration section.
15:35 * oleonard offers jcamins his condolences
15:35 yhager jcamins: where/how do I add that mapping?
15:34 mtompset *sigh* The error I found is in checkpw in C4::Auth. ARG.
15:31 jcamins One of my roommates in college played that game.
15:31 mtompset Never heard of that. Sorry.
15:30 jcamins Yep.
15:29 mtompset Is that it?
15:29 mtompset http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawQvD8L_h4
15:28 jcamins It's a US-only reference, apparently, so if you don't, probably no one.
15:28 jcamins Aww.
15:27 oleonard Not me jcamins
15:27 * mtompset grumbles at set_userenv's outdated documentation.
15:27 mtompset AAAAAA! More incorrect function calls.
15:26 * jcamins wonders how many people recognized the reference.
15:24 wahanui We're a pack o' scurvy sea-dogs. Have we pity? Not a dram! We all eat roasted garlic... ...then sing from the diaphragm! A pirate I was meant to be! Trim the sails and roam the sea!
15:24 jcamins arrrrr?
15:24 * druthb chuckles.
15:24 wahanui We're a club of tuneful rovers! We can sing in every clef! We can even hit the high notes! It's just too bad we're tone deaf! A pirate I was meant to be! Trim the sails and roam the sea!
15:24 druthb Arr?
15:23 druthb :P
15:22 mtompset druthb: Glad to hear you aren't a pirate anymore.
15:21 druthb lol
15:19 jcamins Not the one I was looking for, but that'll do.
15:19 wahanui http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/collapsing.gif
15:19 jcamins how about no?
15:19 jcamins let's add more marc?
15:19 jcamins let's use more marc?
15:19 wahanui marc is probably the standard that isn't
15:19 druthb marc?
15:18 jcamins let's have more marc?
15:18 jcamins more marc?
15:18 jcamins we should have more marc?
15:17 jcamins yhager: my gut reaction is that you are missing a MARC-to-Koha mapping.
15:14 yhager Hi, on our koha 3.10, anything we put in a non-public note (FA framework) does not get saved. It does when I use the default framework. Could this be a bug?
15:14 rambutan sure enough, it was indeed
15:14 rambutan we had arrived at the airport, and were on the shuttle bus to the hotel, and there was a guy on there that I was just sure was gmcharlt, althought I had never seen him before
15:14 * jcamins knows what oleonard looks like. There's a picture from an old KohaCon.
15:13 rambutan However, at the last USA "kohacon", what did we call it back then, in Wisconsin I think, about 5 years ago....
15:12 rambutan Well, I hadn't thought to google you :)
15:12 oleonard rambutan: I wondered what you would find if you wanted to know what I looked like and tried to do a Google image search on my name. I see no pictures of me, but one of magnuse
15:11 mtompset paul_p: It's easier to use a DB specific solution that try to come up with something generic.
15:11 paul_p oleonard / mtompset congratulate her on monday, I'm not involved at all with this baby ;-)
15:11 paul_p mtompset = it's probably easier that to understand one's wife though. Good luck
15:11 mtompset Yes, crongratualtions to clrh. :)
15:10 * mtompset continues to try to understand last_insert_id.
15:10 oleonard paul_p: Thanks! And congratulations to clrh!
15:09 paul_p all = on monday clrh will be back , after 4 months AFK for adding 1 human-being to our world.
15:08 paul_p oleonard : I'll try to come to KohaCon with some tapenade (crushed olives, that you liked so much)
15:05 rambutan oleonard: I can't read this morning :) we are on the same flight
14:57 * oleonard isn't on circ desk after all
14:55 rambutan ah, 1 min
14:55 oleonard Yeah, you need to put your arrival in order in the list :)
14:55 rambutan nevermind
14:54 rambutan no, I see you're flying in two days later
14:54 oleonard UA295?
14:54 rambutan http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Arrivals#Arrivals
14:53 oleonard Oh yeah?
14:53 rambutan oleonard: I presume we're on the same flight into RNO (from DEN)
14:50 * mtompset sighs, "I think I must not be looking for the right thing. Can anyone give me an idea on how to equivalently code "SELECT LAST_INSERT_ID('field');" from MySQL into a more ANSI SQL or DB agnostic method? I can't seem to get $dbh->last_insert_id to work even in a simple test case.
14:39 rambutan that was (is?) one of the db's that Sirsi used
14:38 rambutan I'll bet druthb would know all about ISAM
14:34 slef oh well after altering borrowers to innodb, it works... now to finish the upgrade... thanks oleonard
14:32 slef ohhhh please no
14:32 oleonard I wonder if it means the database missed an update at some point?
14:32 slef ALTER TABLE tablename ORDER BY 'primary_key_column'; ALTER TABLE tablename ENGINE = INNODB;
14:31 slef Anyone remember how to convert a MyISAM table to an InnoDB one? STFW now
14:30 slef oleonard: this library has upgraded from Version: $TheArk including before I worked there.
14:28 oleonard slef: borrowers is InnoDB in my test system, FWIW
14:27 slef Hey, borrowers in this database is MyISAM. Should it be? Can that break foreign keys? Except I've other tables with the same constraint already :-/
14:19 slef Hmmm, which list to email about it - koha or koha-devel?
14:15 slef which is just wrong, as it's pretty obviously borrowers, isn't it?
14:15 slef the underlying error is "Cannot resolve table name close to: (`borrowernumber`)"
14:12 slef mtompset: hrm. I'm getting the "ERROR 1005...(errno: 150)" problem on upgrade on one library.
14:11 khall when I thought I was *sending* the wrong one
14:11 khall I was expecting the wrong record separator
14:11 khall slef: I figured it out. It wasn't Koha, it was me ; )
14:11 mtompset Not that I recall. Sorry.
14:11 slef khall: OTTOMH I can't remember. Looked at the code?
14:10 slef hi everyone. Anyone had problem with constraint `aqbudgetborrowers_ibfk_2` foreign key (`borrowernumber`) references `borrowers` (`borrowernumber`)?
13:56 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:56 tcohen @later tell eythian about bug 10624, it must be some typo around, i'll check it
13:46 mtompset qw vs. q problem, not an sql syntax problem.
13:46 * mtompset groans.
13:42 khall question, what is the Koha SIP2 server expecting as a message terminator? LF, CR, CRLF, or does it not matter?
13:37 * magnuse calls it a week and waits impatiently for the time to be right for making pizza
13:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7813 enhancement, P3, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add ability to delete local cover images
13:33 magnuse hooray for bug 7813
13:33 magnuse "Your signature with timestamp"
13:32 magnuse second one from the right, when you edit a page
13:32 magnuse there is a button for it too
13:31 magnuse yup
13:30 oleonard Magical.
13:30 magnuse s/datatime/date and time/
13:30 magnuse if you write the string "--~~~~" anywhere in the wiki it will be replaced with your wiki username and the datatime you saved the page
13:29 oleonard magnuse: What is this magic of which you speak?
13:28 tcohen magical wand?
13:25 * oleonard waves his magic wand ineffectually
13:24 mtompset magical what thingy?!
13:23 magnuse the date after the name gets added if you "sign" with the magical --~~~~ thingy
13:19 oleonard I'm not sure why that is necessary, but I followed the example of the others
13:19 tcohen thanks oleonard
13:19 oleonard The date you added the information
13:18 tcohen what's the meaning of the second date on "arrivals and departures" wiki?
13:17 tcohen who's tcohen_ anyway?
13:17 mtompset Or should I say tcohen_?
13:16 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
13:10 tcohen morning #koha
13:03 mtompset Even numbers are releases. 3.13 is the current master.
13:02 mtompset 3.14
13:02 Pablo jcamins: Thank you, I'll try to make it run with that patch, or wait to 3.13 perhaps. Thank you!
12:57 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
12:51 jcamins If you look at that script, you'll see it correctly handles users, etc.
12:51 jcamins If you don't want to build your own packages (which you could absolutely do!), you could get copy the koha-indexer script out of that.
12:49 jcamins ^^ this patch adds a script that works much better.
12:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
12:49 jcamins Bug 8773
12:48 jcamins Pablo: it's not quite as easy as the instructions make it sound.
12:48 Pablo jcamins: So you think I wont be able to enjoy koha-index-deaemon, even I'm using v3.12? :( The strange thing is I can't set the correct user, even I use the --user option...
12:46 jcamins But if you do a package install or a git install (the more common options, since those are appropriate for production and development, respectively), the instructions won't work.
12:45 jcamins Well... I think maybe they make sense if you did a standard install.
12:45 jcamins Pablo: the instructions on the wiki are wrong. They don't make any sense.
12:41 Pablo Also stoped zebra: koha-stop-zebra INSTANCE
12:38 tweetbot_ [off] @oleonard: "Coming to KohaCon13? Add your travel info here http://t.co/dtAuWheoo4 #KohaILS"
12:37 Pablo Someone could bypass this error...?
12:36 Pablo of cource service koha-index-daemon start -C /etc/koha/sites/INSTANCE/koha-conf.xml
12:35 Pablo Even I use --user INSTANCE-koha, or --conf as man says, or --config or -C as output says
12:35 Pablo [....] Starting Koha indexing daemon (koha):Invalid --user argument: 'koha.koha' (unknown user koha)
12:34 Pablo I'm using koha-common, v3.12. I already install (I was expecting to add libkoha-contrib-tamil-perl as dependency) but even I follow wiki instructions, I keep getting:
12:31 Pablo Hi all!
12:22 nengard morning oleonard
12:21 nengard rsm anything is possible ... if you develop it or have a developer you can ask to create that feature for you :)
12:18 oleonard Hi #koha
12:14 rsm ok but can we built a button to generate pdf reports
12:08 magnuse but you could take the csv, open it in e.g. LibreOffice and produce pdf from that
12:07 nengard rsm that would be a new feature for Koha - a development is needed. Right now it just generates CSV files or HTML or reports.
12:02 rsm hi there can u help me regarding some pdf reports in koha
12:00 rsm =>i need to develop pdf format reports in koha any help??
11:26 wahanui rumour has it magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
11:26 khall hey magnuse!
11:13 magnuse kia ora khall
10:26 * drojf hits the shower
10:26 drojf good night rangi
10:26 rangi right time for sleep
10:26 drojf heh :D
10:26 rangi ah well maybe they learnt something about packaging rules at least :)
10:26 drojf yeah that sounds very strange
10:25 rangi cos if you have no /var/lib/koha ... something odd is going on
10:25 drojf i think "that blog" has instructions for 12.10 :/
10:24 rangi yeah, i wonder what docs
10:24 drojf huh? :D
10:23 rangi heh
10:22 random_wind Unfortunatley I need to run......however, I am pretty sure (as I would say you are!) that I have done something strange during the install. Thanks for clearing up the cron job!
10:22 rangi so where are your zebra indexes then?
10:21 random_wind Nothing, doesn't exist
10:21 rangi what is in /var/lib/koha for you?
10:20 rangi i just pasted how
10:20 random_wind Yeah, that is why I though. Just as an aside. If the cron is run by root how does it assume the instance user to update their files?
10:20 rangi ie, runs as your instance user (for each of your instances)
10:19 rangi koha-rebuild-zebra does sudo -u "$instancename-koha"
10:19 rangi not sure what you did, but there is no way they should be owned as root
10:19 random_wind Ubuntu 12.10
10:19 random_wind yeah, as per the docs.
10:18 rangi installed koha-common then did a koha-create right?
10:18 random_wind did a straight forward package install though!
10:18 random_wind hum.....strange.
10:18 rangi yep
10:18 drojf if they are owned by root you broke them already :p
10:18 random_wind instance owner:instance owner ?
10:18 rangi drwxr-xr-x 6 persona-koha persona-koha 4096 Jun 10 2012 biblios
10:18 rangi drwxr-xr-x 6 persona-koha persona-koha 4096 Jun 10 2012 authorities
10:18 rangi ls -l /var/lib/koha/persona
10:17 rangi mine aren't they are owned by the instance owner
10:17 random_wind Sure, I appreciate that. Still not sure I like the permission changes though!
10:16 rangi and multiple sites
10:16 rangi yes but the packages support multiple users
10:16 random_wind all my zeb indexes are owned by root
10:16 random_wind right. Before packages (using the tar install) Zebra used to have to run as the koha user, not as root.
10:15 rangi no
10:15 random_wind It's confusing regarding the permission on the zebra indexes though, isn't it?
10:15 rangi http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html
10:14 rangi /etc/cron.hourly /etc/cron.daily /etc/cron.weekly /etc/cron.monthly
10:14 rangi If a package wants to install a job that has to be executed via cron, it should place a file named as specified in Cron job file names, Section 9.5.1 into one or more of the following directories:
10:14 rangi Packages must not modify the configuration file /etc/crontab, and they must not modify the files in /var/spool/cron/crontabs.
10:13 rangi look in /etc/cron.daily you'll see things like apache and logrotate do the same thing
10:12 rangi its a very standard thing to do
10:11 rangi nope
10:11 random_wind although, this seems like an odd thing to do!
10:10 random_wind Thanks @rangi
10:10 random_wind at least that explains it!
10:10 random_wind sneaky!
10:09 rangi look in /etc/cron.d/koha-common
10:09 rangi it wont
10:09 random_wind No user on the system has any crontab setup
10:09 random_wind under which user?
10:09 random_wind only process running is koha-common spawned processes?
10:09 rangi thats because the packages set up rebuild_zebra to run as a cron job
10:08 random_wind opac and staff
10:08 random_wind add, remove or mod bib/item and it will reflect in Koha
10:08 random_wind installed from pacakges. My indexes are updating with running this script though - it is strange.
10:07 magnuse how did you install? using the packages?
10:07 magnuse random_wind: you need that script to update zebra when records are updated
10:06 random_wind -without running!
10:06 random_wind I ask because it seems my indexes are updating with running this!?
10:06 random_wind Would anyone know if the rebuild_zebra script is redundant in 3.12?
09:43 magnuse has anyone tried importing marcXchange data with bulkmarcimport.pl?
09:16 tweetbot_ [off] @shangueh: "On vient de passer #KohaILS de v3.8.5 à v3.8.17, on essuie les plâtres mais pour le moment rien de grave."
08:36 drojf good morning #koha
07:06 gaetan_B hello!
06:50 wahanui what's up, alex_a
06:50 alex_a bonjour
06:46 magnuse and we can expect lots and lots of rain, so i'm just bragging while i can :-)
06:44 sophie_m yes, but the wind is down today the temperature wil increase magnuse :-)
06:42 magnuse hah! ;-)
06:42 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 14.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on September 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
06:42 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:42 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on September 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
06:42 magnuse @wunder boo
06:42 magnuse bonjour
06:36 reiveune hello
06:12 magnuse awww... http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Arrivals
06:10 * Kaptein_Sabeltann waves
04:14 * mtompset waves bye to wizzyrea.
04:14 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
04:13 mtompset I'll wait until 9/23 ;)
04:13 mtompset True... it is likely lunch somewhere. :)
04:13 wizzyrea as late friday and most of the rest of the world is in late evening/late night/early morning
04:12 wizzyrea That's fine, but probably a terrible time to :)
04:12 mtompset Are we supposed to advocate for our bugs on the channel?
04:05 * mtompset shrugs, and considers going to bed.
04:04 mtompset So a crack signifies disbelief?
04:03 mtompset Bye, d--
04:03 dcook Ta all
04:03 dcook Anyway, time to not get sand everywhere
04:03 dcook I like how it says "offensive" under "my arse!"
04:02 dcook http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/my-arse
04:02 wizzyrea everyone's butt is broken. It's got a crack in it.
04:00 dcook Hmm
04:00 huginn` mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 16.1°C (12:00 AM EDT on September 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
04:00 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
04:00 mtompset Interesting pondering: why does reference to one's bottom express disbelief?
03:58 wizzyrea try "gonna rain at any second" clouds.
03:58 dcook lol
03:57 wizzyrea scattered clouds my ass. Try "touching the treetops" clouds.
03:56 dcook Hmm, a bit windy though..
03:56 dcook mashed potato clouds and blue sky
03:55 dcook Too bad my swimmers are in my gym bag
03:55 wizzyrea but the sky is not beachy.
03:55 wizzyrea hm, temp is ok
03:55 huginn` dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (1:30 PM EST on September 20, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 16%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Falling).
03:55 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
03:55 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (3:00 PM NZST on September 20, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
03:55 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
03:55 dcook Wife got off work early and the boss is letting me out
03:55 wizzyrea it is decidedly not beach weather here
03:55 dcook I just meant I'm leaving the discussion..
03:55 wizzyrea are you now.
03:55 dcook Ah, "with" it
03:55 wizzyrea Bad git!
03:55 wizzyrea No, Git! NO!
03:54 dcook wizzyrea: I'm headed to the beach in 5 minutes :p
03:54 wizzyrea you can also find yourself having 2 hour arguments with it.
03:54 dcook Like wizzyrea is saying, once you get the hang of it, you can rattle off commands without realizing it
03:54 dcook Git seemed a bit imposing when I first started using it, but it's pretty sweet
03:53 dcook ^^
03:53 wizzyrea then it will just work.
03:53 mtompset Not when I want it to just work.
03:53 wizzyrea you probably only need a really good short class on git.
03:53 mtompset Only occasionally... Not always.
03:52 dcook But don't you enjoy being a master of the arcane and esoteric?!
03:52 mtompset I'd rather it work in a way that is intuitive and obvious. It isn't.
03:51 wizzyrea *snicker*
03:51 dcook :p
03:51 dcook We haven't even talked about the hunks yet, wizzyrea. Calm down.
03:51 wizzyrea HEAD. Relations. It's getting hot in here.
03:50 dcook Than limit yourself to single patches?
03:50 dcook mtompset: But wouldn't you rather know how it works
03:50 dcook Makes sense I guess
03:50 dcook B..C C
03:50 mtompset And that is why I like single patches. Too much HEAD-y stuffs.
03:49 dcook But it seems to me that it also excludes <rev1>
03:49 dcook Include commits that are reachable from <rev2> but exclude those that are reachable from <rev1>.
03:49 dcook <rev1>..<rev2>
03:49 eythian I don't know why it's not consistent
03:49 eythian git format-patch, however, does.
03:49 eythian git bz doesn't require specifying the commit above in general
03:48 dcook "If you know you've 3 patches to attach, you can also use HEAD~2^.. to attach the 3 patches at once"
03:47 jcamins We have HEAD~2^ on the wiki?
03:46 dcook But they're not necessarily wrong
03:46 dcook HEAD~2..HEAD, HEAD~commitid..HEAD might be misleading
03:46 dcook It's not
03:46 dcook Actually, no
03:46 dcook Well, not in the HEAD~2^ example
03:46 dcook Which means the wiki is slightly wrong then
03:45 dcook And the range just takes the first three
03:45 dcook So HEAD~2^ would actually be head, head's parent, head's parent's parent, head's parent's parent's parent
03:45 jcamins Well... usually.
03:45 jcamins dcook: yes.
03:45 dcook When specifying a range of commits...I think you have to specify the one above the one you're including?
03:44 dcook It would be tough to find the Doctor situation in Git
03:44 eythian except git is just a directed acyclic graph, so that makes it easy.
03:43 * dcook loves that image
03:43 wizzyrea ^ like that family
03:43 * dcook has seen some odd Git diagrams...
03:43 eythian https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1bWGM1YK_mA/UjtbGDBXNzI/AAAAAAAARcU/wdZdBpKHJZU/s500-no/1235256_661297993903107_233666193_n.jpg <-- wizzyrea
03:43 dcook Oh my...
03:43 dcook I was just thinking that, wizzyrea :p
03:42 wizzyrea "
03:42 wizzyrea in every sense of the word "relations
03:42 wizzyrea relations all over the place!
03:42 * wizzyrea was imagining this screwed up family
03:42 wizzyrea har har
03:42 * jcamins laughed.
03:42 wizzyrea i know I was being not-funny
03:41 jcamins It's just one.
03:41 eythian no step though, it's not chronological. Many people have two parents.
03:41 jcamins Or, great-grandparent.
03:41 wizzyrea now the word parent looks weird to me
03:40 jcamins Yeah, you're right. Great-grandparents.
03:40 eythian yeah, that sounds about right.
03:40 wizzyrea step-great-grandparent
03:40 dcook Head, head's parent, head's parent's parent
03:39 dcook But HEAD~2^.. is supposed to be a range of 3 patches
03:39 jcamins wizzyrea: once-removed.
03:39 wizzyrea j/k
03:39 wizzyrea j/k
03:39 wizzyrea j/k
03:39 wizzyrea step-grandparent?
03:39 eythian the parent of the second parent
03:39 dcook jcamins: :p
03:39 jcamins dcook: typo?
03:39 eythian I think
03:39 dcook HEAD~2^
03:39 eythian nothing
03:39 dcook Ack
03:39 dcook So what would HEAD~^ be?
03:38 eythian following the first parent only
03:38 eythian yeah
03:38 dcook So HEAD~2 is head's parent's parent
03:37 dcook Mmm, right, that's it
03:37 mtompset But ^^ looks happier. :)
03:37 eythian but ^2 is the second parent, not the parent's parent.
03:37 eythian so ~2 === ^^
03:36 eythian ^ is the first parent, ~2 is the parent's parent.
03:36 mtompset and confirmed it with a git bz apply on a test branch.
03:36 mtompset I just used HEAD, then unobsoleted the original patch.
03:36 eythian ^3 would be wrong
03:36 eythian oh actually
03:35 eythian I don't know it nearly well enough to explain it.
03:34 dcook What does ~ mean then?
03:34 eythian oh, or ^3
03:34 eythian ^ just means "previous", so you can do HEAD^^^^
03:33 eythian or you can do HEAD^.. for the previous two
03:33 eythian just use HEAD
03:33 mtompset And now I am realizing why I like tiny single patches.
03:32 * dcook can't remember the particular differences between ~ and ^ in relation to ancestors and such..
03:32 dcook Although I guess HEAD~1^ would probably work
03:31 dcook I think I usually use something like HEAD~1..HEAD
03:31 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Attaching_patches
03:30 wizzyrea towards the bottom
03:30 wizzyrea ^
03:30 dcook I think it says in the wiki
03:30 mtompset How do you git bz 2 commits?
03:25 eythian especially if your stuff needs that to work right, but it's probably too small of a thing to warrant its own ticket.
03:24 mtompset so a multipatch fix on the same bug... okay.
03:22 eythian probably as another patch on the same bug
03:20 mtompset Do I fix it in the same bug, or a different bug?
03:20 mtompset The calling convention was right, but the functions parameters (as shown before) were wrong.
03:20 wizzyrea mtompset: http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/61012696259/fixed-a-bug-introduced-a-bug-kohails
03:19 mtompset When I fixed this, it busted t/Circulation_barcodedecode.t
03:19 wizzyrea *nod* I'll check
03:19 eythian there's a lot of scripts in there.
03:19 wizzyrea I have this weird feeling that there is a tool for that
03:19 eythian hmm. Maybe.
03:19 mtompset Okay, I have a patch to fix the calling convention to set_userenv.
03:19 wizzyrea eythian: isn't there a script to do that in the migration tools?
03:19 dcook Although I think it's a bit dangerous
03:18 mtompset Anyways... next question. :)
03:18 dcook mtompset: I think we have a PHP script that clears out bib records with no items
03:18 dcook Delete them manually?
03:05 eythian well, you can delete them using the output of that report.
03:05 eythian not in the UI, but you can make a report that'll find them.
03:04 mtompset Is there a way to batch delete biblios with no items?
02:59 mtompset without touching biblioitems?
02:58 eythian yeah
02:57 mtompset and if you delete an item, the items record would basically move to the deleteditems table?
02:56 dcook ^^
02:56 jcamins mtompset: sure, if your bib has items.
02:55 mtompset question: if I have a biblio number of 28, and a biblioitems record matching with biblioitemnumber=28, should I not have an items record with biblionumber=28 or biblioitemnumber=28?
02:21 dcook Actually, that totally explains my first encounter with references
02:20 dcook hehe
02:20 wizzyrea which isn't always not non-unconfusing - I had to read this sentence 3 times.
02:19 eythian ah yeah, php hides things like I think.
02:19 dcook Actually, now when I write in PHP, I miss Perl...
02:19 dcook eythian: I had only ever coded in PHP before Koha. If there are references in PHP, I've never seen 'em :S
02:19 cjh heh
02:19 dcook lol
02:19 eythian which isn't always not non-unconfusing.
02:18 huginn` dcook: I suck
02:18 dcook @$arrayref
02:18 eythian same as dereferencing anything else
02:18 dcook When I was first figuring it out
02:18 dcook Yeah, dereferencing hashrefs was...interesting
02:18 rangi my %hash = %$hashref;
02:18 rangi gets you the hash
02:18 rangi %$hashref
02:18 dcook I figured that had to be the case
02:18 eythian oh, I though you were asking a question there
02:18 rangi both of them make a hash
02:18 dcook Mmm, k
02:18 dcook But if it's a reference...does that mean that it makes a hash at the same time as it makes the reference?
02:18 rangi you are making a hash, and a ref to it in one go
02:18 eythian %hash = ( a => 'b', c => 'd' );
02:17 dcook Yeah. That.
02:17 eythian $hashref = { a => 'b', c => 'd' };
02:17 dcook Why is that?
02:17 eythian dcook: sure can
02:17 dcook But you can also define a hashref from the start without having an original hash
02:17 dcook So you can have a hash than create a hashref from it
02:16 eythian well, you can use either, but hashref is more standard.
02:16 dcook I was wondering about hashrefs the other day..
02:16 mtompset We know... ref is another 3 characters. :P
02:16 eythian hashref is more traditional, yeah.
02:16 jcamins That's what eythian means by replacing it with a hash, actually.
02:16 dcook Yes, totes hashref
02:15 mtompset because too many parameters makes for harder debugging.
02:15 jcamins hashref, please.
02:15 dcook Sounds like a good guide
02:15 eythian situationally dependent, of course.
02:15 eythian as a basic guide, I tend to think that if there are more than 3 arguments, you should probably do it some other way.
02:15 mtompset I was just thinking that.
02:14 dcook Mmm, a hash would be nicer
02:13 eythian I'd replace it with a hash (though really it should probably be an object or something.)
02:13 eythian yeah
02:13 eythian Still terrible :)
02:13 eythian providing.
02:12 eythian oh, not returning
02:12 mtompset It's C4::Context, what do you expect? :)
02:12 eythian that's a terrible way of returning a set of values
02:11 dcook Those parameters could be worded a bit nicer too..
02:11 dcook True that
02:10 mtompset the parameters in the call don't match the parameters in the parameters in the function.
02:09 mtompset with the shift, 0 is the branchcode.
02:09 mtompset without the shift, IMS is the branchcode.
02:09 mtompset C4::Context->set_userenv(1,'kmkale' , 1, 'kk1' , 'IMS', 0, 'kmkale@anantcorp.com');
02:08 mtompset my ($usernum, $userid, $usercnum, $userfirstname, $usersurname, $userbranch, $branchname, $userflags, $emailaddress, $branchprinter, $persona)= @_;
02:08 mtompset YAY! My patch found a bug in a test.
01:41 dcook That'll get ya
01:39 mtompset The setenv mess.
01:39 mtompset ARG!
01:31 mtompset Okay... I must have broken something in C4::Circulation somehow?!
01:30 mtompset okay... I'm still confused... http://paste.koha-community.org/222 -- My debian VM fails, but my ubuntu VM works?
00:53 drojf but i'll give it a try. good night #koha :)
00:52 dcook hehe
00:52 drojf i have a long history of bad sleep and if i know it is full moon i blame that. else i blame other things. :D
00:52 * dcook used to have the occasional nightmare during undergrad about not having good enough essays
00:52 wizzyrea kek
00:52 dcook Possibly emotional stuff but I don't have that many emotions so not that :p
00:51 wizzyrea there are lots of reasons to not sleep well.
00:51 dcook Or I'm too hot
00:51 dcook It's usually back pain
00:51 dcook Next time I don't sleep well, I'll try to remember to log it
00:51 wizzyrea it sounds like pseudoscience!
00:51 dcook It does sound crazy
00:51 wizzyrea it sounds crazy!
00:51 dcook Hmm
00:50 wizzyrea but if I keep track, it happens that I sleep not well more often when there is a full moon.
00:50 wizzyrea I just thought I didn't sleep well sometimes for no good reason.
00:50 wizzyrea before I even knew it was a thing
00:50 wizzyrea I have been noticing this my whole life.
00:50 dcook Which is perhaps why it's never disrupted my sleep?
00:49 * dcook didn't know that people thought the full moon disrupted sleep?
00:49 wahanui okay, eythian.
00:49 eythian wahanui: kiwi is also http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/prime-minister-eats-kiwi-just-to-make-sure-were-not-missing-out-on-anything/
00:49 wahanui ...but kiwi is the bird it takes it name from...
00:49 eythian wahanui: kiwi is http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/prime-minister-eats-kiwi-just-to-make-sure-were-not-missing-out-on-anything/
00:49 dcook Or a baby that sleeps well...which I did...as a baby...
00:49 dcook My wife bought me an $80 pillow. I've been sleeping like a baby.
00:49 drojf i think i saw it for 10 seconds two nights ago. don't know if that is the reason but i guess it would have worked without that like it did not :D
00:48 wizzyrea or if you can't see the moon.
00:47 wizzyrea ^ there is actually some research that shows even if you don't know the moon is full, sleep is disrupted
00:47 drojf i was up until 5 or 6 last night
00:47 wizzyrea i haven't slept well in 3 days now, presumably because of the full moon.
00:47 wizzyrea oh man, yea. good luck.
00:46 drojf full moon :/
00:46 wizzyrea go to bed :)
00:46 wizzyrea 3am is way too late
00:46 wizzyrea about the question anyway
00:46 dcook If people want to "cheat", they're going to do it one way or another?
00:46 wizzyrea yea, idk
00:46 dcook Personally, as for the answer to the question, no idea
00:45 drojf i understand what you're saying and i think you are right. anyway it is almost 3am and it did not help me at all with the actual question so i'll rather go to bed
00:45 dcook Not that your opinion is unpopular :p
00:45 dcook About it being a question deserving of logging
00:45 dcook Actually, I agree with you, wizzyrea
00:44 wizzyrea clearly mine is the unpopular opinion. So I'll just leave you to your offing.
00:43 wizzyrea because offing looks like you're trying to hide something.
00:43 wizzyrea but asking a question about voting probably deserves to be logged.
00:42 wizzyrea I get wanting to not log your unpopular opinions.
00:42 * dcook is going to remember it for the next time he plays Scrabble though
00:42 dcook That almost looks like it can't be a real word...
00:42 dcook outed
00:41 dcook outted?
00:41 dcook drojf: You've been outed!
00:41 dcook :O
00:41 wizzyrea and the email question
00:41 wizzyrea more drojf :P
00:41 wizzyrea well I wasn't specifically referring to the stuff YOU were talking about
00:40 jcamins It is. But I don't have the right to put it in your mouth.
00:39 wizzyrea mmm the truth is hard sometimes.
00:38 jcamins Yeah, but it also protects Koha from being associated with some rather extreme (and unpopular) attitudes.
00:35 wizzyrea that kind of ruins the idea of transparency.
00:35 wizzyrea why shouldn't the discussion be in the log?
00:35 wizzyrea I woulnd't look weird if you all weren't obsessed with off.
00:35 dcook [off] Bahahaha
00:35 drojf [off] and you look weird in the logs for talking to yourself all day :D
00:34 drojf [off] i'm a secret guy :P
00:33 wizzyrea what is with the offing!
00:33 drojf [off] for the kohacon 2014 voting, should there be an email field to fill in (which won't be validated) or something? or do we just take all the clicks that people feel like doing? they could enter fake addresses or real aliases anyway
00:03 jcamins Yep, that's her.
00:01 wizzyrea well she introduced herself as camille ^.^