Time Nick Message
00:00 mtompset Greetings, dcook.
00:00 dcook hey mtompset
00:00 wahanui mtompset is disliking finding bugs while testing.
00:20 mtompset In the template files, is there a way to set a variable on the fly?
00:21 dcook first question?
00:21 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
00:21 mtompset make the template file more readable.
00:21 dcook first question?
00:21 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
00:21 dcook :p
00:21 mtompset opac-main has a bunch of conditions.
00:22 mtompset if blah div this else div that end
00:22 mtompset it would be easier to read if it were: if blah set var this else set var that end div var
00:23 jcamins mtompset: it can be done, but probably shouldn't be due to translatability.
00:24 dcook I think the latter seems more difficult to read :p
00:24 dcook Plus, that seems to contradict the idea of separating code and presentation, no?
00:27 jcamins dcook: not necessarily, if the decision is entirely about presentation.
00:27 mtompset The indentation of the HTML if properly indented isn't clear, because of the mix of [% IF %]'s and HTML.
00:28 jcamins True, but we don't reindent templates.
00:28 mtompset I'm trying to figure out if there is an [% END %] in the wrong place.
00:28 dcook mtompset: Always fun times
00:28 * dcook had to do that with the label creator, if memory serves
00:29 dcook Having an editor that would match an [% END %] with the tag it's ending would be awesome
00:30 mtompset is there such a thing? It would be helpful.
00:30 dcook Not that I know of
00:30 dcook At best, rangi pointed me to a Vim plugin that does syntax highlighting, but it doesn't go that far
00:31 dcook Last time I tried to figure out if an [% END %] was in the wrong spot, I ended up using a lot of <!-- END of ___ --> and then scanning through my HTML source
00:31 mtompset Also, based on my attempted reindenting (without saving), I think I see that if casAuthentication is on, local login isn't possible.
00:32 mtompset which seems strange.
00:32 * dcook shrugs
00:32 dcook I haven't done much with auth
00:33 dcook I am however very interested that I get an error from one repository but not another when trying to harvest them...
00:33 dcook The resumptionTokens are identical which makes me think that despite the error being about the resumptionToken...it's probably further up..
00:33 dcook farther even...
00:40 dcook wth..
00:43 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "The idea I was asking about" (35 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/220
00:45 dcook Looks all right according to the TT docs
00:46 mtompset The niceness of what I was asking about is separation of HTML and LOGIC, and consistent indenting between the two.
00:47 dcook Sounds nice to me, but I'm not an authority on such things
00:50 dcook Aha...there IS an unescaped < in the XML...
00:50 dcook Just nowhere near the line the parser says it was...
00:50 dcook Oh wait...there are 6 of them..
00:51 dcook Or maybe not...
00:54 dcook Mmm an XML validator says no errors...
01:11 mtompset and they are ALWAYS right. ;)
01:11 mtompset (well more often than just eyeballing it :) )
01:12 dcook These errors make no sense :S
01:14 dcook Oh wait..
01:14 dcook Nope, no sense
01:15 eythian I bet they do. Maybe you're looking at the wrong file?
01:15 eythian That's usually what I end up finding I've been doing when things totally don't make sense.
01:16 dcook Hmm
01:17 dcook I think it's the right file
01:17 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "crazy making" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/221
01:18 dcook Maybe the line number doesn't mean what I think it means
01:19 dcook The only attributes are namespaces and schemalocations..
01:20 dcook Which should be identical across all the records
01:25 * dcook tries something different
01:25 dcook Oh ho...maybe we've found something..
01:25 eythian that looks like it's gone quite out of whack somewhere
01:26 dcook Agreed. That's the only thing that would make sense to me.
01:26 dcook I'm guessing that someone has been pasting from Word/Outlook...
01:27 dcook Changed my selection criteria and I'm finding bullets which seem to cause epic problems
01:27 dcook The parser sees this: <dc:creator>Peach, Hedley G.</dc:creator><dc:subject>VIETNAM VETERANS</cription>
01:27 dcook When the XML is actually this: <dc:creator>Peach, Hedley G.</dc:creator><dc:subject>VIETNAM VETERANS</dc:subject><dc:description>•Vietnam veterans
01:28 dcook Although I'm a bit surprised it wouldn't have closed that dc:subject...
01:29 eythian bullets should be OK if they're unicode.
01:30 dcook I'm thinking it might be Windows-1252
01:30 dcook Or something like that..
01:30 eythian there might be some xmllint options that help you.
01:32 dcook Hmm, looks like it might be useful for debugging
01:32 dcook Alas, the parsing errors happen when I run methods from HTTP::OAI::Harvester
01:39 dcook I think the only solution is to fix the original data in the repository
01:42 dcook Thanks for the encouragement, eythian :)
02:02 WaylonR hiya people. Okay, how do i tell koha what host:port to get zebra searches done, at?
02:02 WaylonR need to use a off-server zebrasrv
03:03 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
03:05 eythian WaylonR: should be somewhere in koha-conf.xml
03:05 eythian though I don't know exactly where
03:07 eythian actually, the layout in koha-conf.xml is backwards to what I'd expect, so I'm not really sure.
04:15 WaylonR anyone? jcamins ? rangi?
04:20 mtj- its at the top of the file
04:33 WaylonR <listen id="publicserver" >tcp:192.168.1.10:9999</listen>
04:33 WaylonR ohhh...
04:33 WaylonR hmm..
04:39 WaylonR port that zoom receives for use is 0
04:39 WaylonR but gets the entire ip+port string
04:40 WaylonR just doesn't split up the ip from port
05:17 tweetbot_ [off] @KohaILS: "#KohaILS [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Bug 6435 Add daemon mode to rebuild_zebra.pl http://t.co/s5BJpqjrWd"
05:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , Added daemon mode parameters to rebuild_zebra.pl
05:29 tweetbot_ [off] @Tredok: "Ce matin, c'est la reprise des signatures de patchs ! #KohaILSÂ "
05:44 tweetbot_ [off] @andisugandi: ""@KohaILS: #KohaILS [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Bug 6435 Add daemon mode to rebuild_zebra.pl http://t.co/9ESHI2VqdV ""
05:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , Added daemon mode parameters to rebuild_zebra.pl
06:05 tweetbot_ [off] @Tredok: "Arf. Faut que je refasse ma sélection de patchs. Ceux sélectionnés la semaine dernière sont signés :p #KohaILS"
06:24 * magnuse waves
06:30 marcelr hi #koha
06:31 marcelr rangi: did we loose the columns on the dashboard?
06:32 marcelr only on this bad microsoft browser?
06:32 tweetbot_ [off] @Tredok: "Hum... Et si aujourd'hui je testais l'installation d'une VM ? #KohaILS #signature"
06:33 magnuse the dashboard looks good from here (ff on ubuntu)
06:36 * dcook hopes that is an automated join
06:37 marcelr hi magnuse: yeah it is an ie problem
06:38 magnuse ie--
06:39 marcelr ff++
06:39 dcook Except on a netbook :p
06:39 marcelr ok
06:39 * dcook despises ff on his netbook...
06:41 reiveune hello
06:42 dcook hey reiveune
06:42 wahanui rumour has it reiveune is working for biblibre
06:47 paul_p good morning !
06:49 magnuse kia ora!
06:49 magnuse first public library in sweden to switch to Koha: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsverigesradio.se%2Fsida%2Fartikel.aspx%3Fprogramid%3D128%26artikel%3D5648792&act=url
07:08 cait magnuse: around?
07:10 magnuse cait: yup
07:11 magnuse wassup?
07:12 cait was fighting the wiki :)
07:12 cait but i think i managed
07:12 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-09-24_QA_Sprint_Day
07:15 magnuse looks a1 ok to me
07:15 magnuse cait++
07:16 cait running out of time for the email tho
07:16 WaylonR hiya people. Okay, how do i tell koha what host:port to get zebra searches done, at? <listen id="biblioserver">tcp:192.168.1.10:9999</listen> works for the ip/hostname, but not the port, zoom doesn't get the port number.
07:16 cait have to boot into windowsand fix the slides... *sigh*
07:17 gaetan_B helllo
07:48 WaylonR ah damnit... doesn't seem to be any way to deliver a port number to koha 3.0.0pre2.. as it uses create Zoom connection, not new.
07:49 dcook night #koha
07:49 magnuse WaylonR: time to upgrade, then? ;-)
08:13 WaylonR magnuse, meh, i edited Zoom.pm to put in a port number for now. .. but now im getting error 1011 from zebrasrv log
08:13 cait bye all :)
08:29 tweetbot_ [off] @liblamp: "Just submitted @KohaILS to the @bitnami contest. Would be a boost to the adoption of free software in public libraries worldwide!"
09:12 paul_p kivilahtio_ = I'm available, you can skype me
09:12 paul_p kivilahtio_ = I hear you, do you hear me ?
09:42 tweetbot_ [off] @KohaILS: "#KohaILS [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Bug 7791 : Give the ability to delete records when deleting… http://t.co/JH2GyEFRrW"
09:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7791 critical, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Deleting basket should not delete all existing orders without warning
10:06 tweetbot_ [off] @Tredok: "Une demie douzaine de patch validé sur une dizaine testé. #KohaILS"
10:19 marcelr i do no longer see contents on about/Koha Timeline in staff on current master.. did anyone already notice?
10:29 paxed paul_p: we'll continue later in here, if that's ok with you? i like IRC better...
11:03 franciscan Hello?
11:03 kivilahtio_ hell-o!
11:06 franciscan Was wondering if anyone might be able to give me some advice? I'm struggling with a re-install of Koha.
11:09 franciscan It's actually a re-install running on Ubuntu 13.04. I've followed the instructions all the way through to the bit where you go to the web setup section. The database has been restored and the config file configured for domain name, rather than IP address, access.
11:11 franciscan When I try to access either library.mydomain.com or library-intra.mydomain.com, I get taken to the main public access login page, and not to the staff login. If anyone has any ideas why this is, would be very grateful to hear them.
11:14 mtj franciscan, the recommended install method is using the packages… -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
11:23 franciscan Yes, those are the instructions I've followed.
11:25 drojf hi #koha
11:26 marcelr hi drojf
11:27 drojf hi marcelr
11:29 mtj franciscan, if you paste your koha's apache-conf file - ill take a peek :o)
11:29 mtj http://paste.koha-community.org <------
11:31 mtj $ cat /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library
11:31 mtj something like that ^^
11:33 mtj marcelr, i have timeline bug too, on master
11:34 marcelr mtj: thanks for checking
11:34 franciscan Ooh, hold on, that's given me some clues... Let me just check a couple of things.
11:34 mtj about.pl: Use of uninitialized value $docdir in string at /home/mason/git/head/about.pl line 152, <DATA> line 558.,
11:34 mtj about.pl: readline() on closed filehandle $file at /home/mason/git/head/about.pl line 158.,
11:35 mtj marcelr, i got those errors in my log ^^
11:35 marcelr ok will have a quick look
11:36 mtj franciscan, create yourself a quick test koha, and compare the 2 apache files
11:37 mtj # koha-create --create-db library2
11:37 mtj # diff /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library2
11:37 marcelr bug 8911
11:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8911 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , docs/history.txt file missing for about.pl
11:42 mtj marcelr, hmmm, looks like the current patch works great for new installs - but breaks on upgrades
11:42 marcelr yeah, added a comment on bug 8911
11:43 franciscan Cracked it! Thank you everyone, especially mtj. I got a bit confused with the domain names, and the ones in the apache conf didn't tie up with the ones in the hosts file.
11:47 mtj franciscan++ well done :)
11:56 mtj marcelr, ill send a patch for the bug now...
11:56 marcelr ok i will test it
12:10 kivilahtio_ Hi Koha! We are having issues verifying Library Transfer Limits -functionality. We have two libraries Joensuu and Karsikko. Joensuu is set to allow transfers to Karsikko. Karsikko is not allowed transfers to Joensuu. We still can place holds from Joensuu to Karsikko, we can checkout Karsikko's items from Joensuu, we can return Karsikko's items to Joensuu.
12:10 kivilahtio_ Could this be superlibrarian persmission related?
12:10 kivilahtio_ tesing...
12:12 mtj marcelr, quick Q… shall i attach patch to existing bug? or a new one?
12:13 marcelr i do not mind, but perhaps a new one since it is already on stable
12:18 kivilahtio_ UseBranchTransferLimits is ON in our settings
12:21 magnuse kivilahtio_: i'm not sure, but maybe the IndependentBranches (aka IndependantBranches) can influence it
12:21 mtj marcelr, yep, a good call :) -> bug 10915
12:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10915 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , about->timeline broken on upgraded Koha
12:26 marcelr mtj: i'm done with it :)
12:31 mtj marcelr++ hartelijk bedankt
12:31 marcelr he dutch guy
12:32 marcelr mtj++
12:45 kivilahtio_ IndependantBranches doesn't seem to make any difference.
13:03 * druthb wonders what the ByWaterians are up to this morning.
13:04 druthb oh! 'tis Talk Like A Pirate Day!
13:08 Disembowlin_Ted_Smythe geeargh druthb
13:09 Disembowlin_Ted_Smythe whoops i mean peg_leg_penelope
13:11 Peg_Leg_Penelope Arr!
13:41 kivilahtio_ OK, Library Transfer Limits actually work only on transfering items between libraries, so one can place holds freely, but when a librarian exclusively uses the Circulation -> Transfer -tool to send the item to another library, these limits apply. Isn't this a bit confusing for the patrons?
13:42 jcamins kivilahtio_: holds policy controls who can place holds on which items.
13:48 kivilahtio_ jcamins: Thank you! I think I might be finding a solution.
13:51 kivilahtio_ Ok, changing the default library to Karsikko in Circulation and fine rules, also makes it possible to edit the holds policy by item type for Karsikko. Wow
13:51 kivilahtio_ dodged on bullet :)
13:53 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:53 kivilahtio_ hi mtompset!
13:53 mtompset tcohen: Are you around? :)
13:53 tcohen hi mtompset
13:54 mtompset It just occurred to me that you asked what could be perceived as a UI kind of question on the developers list.
13:54 mtompset Perhaps it merits being on the Koha list in general too?
13:54 mtompset Greetings, kivilahtio_ druthb. :)
13:56 mtompset Okay, let the craziness begin.
13:56 * mtompset puts on his chauffeur hat.
14:06 tcohen did i send that rfc to the devel list?
14:09 oleonard Hi #koha
14:19 oleonard I see we have some lurking pirates today
14:20 druthb arr!
15:04 jcamins Hey, I have a historical question.
15:04 jcamins Why on earth is "Notices & slips" in the Tools section?
15:07 gmcharlt jcamins: I suspect the answer is essentially pure happenstance
15:07 jcamins gmcharlt: that would make sense, because if you stop to think about it, it really makes no sense at all to look there.
15:07 gmcharlt if you're suggesting that Administration might be a better home, I'd agree with that
15:08 jcamins It seems to me it would be. But not really worth the move.
15:09 gmcharlt agreed -- if there were occassion to do a whole-scale revamping of the adminsitration interface, that would be different
15:09 gmcharlt but for now, not worth it
15:12 tcohen would be reasonable to print a warning about <docdir> not set in About > Timeline if about.pl can't open history.txt?
15:15 jcamins I think so.
15:17 tcohen is it kosher in KOha to do unless (open...) { } ?
15:17 jcamins I think we usually do open () or ...
15:18 jcamins (that ellipsis was to show where you'd put code)
15:18 tcohen heh
15:19 * oleonard cancels his plans to add ellipses to all the things
15:19 reiveune bye
15:23 tcohen does the 'or' operand accept a block of code on the right side? { cmd; cmd: ...}
15:28 oleonard just_nengard is going to have to walk the plank
15:28 jcamins tcohen: I don't think so.
15:28 just_nengard hmmm
15:28 just_nengard but you're "just" oleonard
15:28 just_nengard what about you?
15:30 oleonard There's nothing "just" about being oleonard :P
15:30 oleonard ;)
15:38 jcamins khall_the_mad: if you misinterpret a thorn as 'y' and remove the trailing 'e' from 'great,' you can be khall_scourge_of_ye_great_lake
15:39 gaetan_B bye !
15:40 khall_scourge_of_ye_great_lake good call jcamins!
15:40 jcamins Yes!
15:40 jcamins Even better!
15:40 wahanui even better is what oleonard said just after that
15:40 oleonard Thanks wahanui
15:40 druthb wahanui: botsnack rum
15:40 wahanui thanks druthb :)
15:43 tcohen wahanui: botsnack fernet
15:43 wahanui :)
15:43 tcohen am i allowed to feed wahanui with italian/argentinian beverages?
15:44 oleonard wahanui: botsnack ferret
15:44 wahanui :)
15:44 oleonard wahanui you're drunk
15:44 wahanui oleonard: sorry...
15:44 tcohen haha
15:44 jcamins tcohen: just don't get him too drunk, or else who knows what he'll say.
15:52 jcamins ar?
15:52 wahanui We're a band of vicious pirates! A dailing out to sea. When you hear our gentle singing... you'll be sure to turn and flee!
15:52 jcamins Hmmm...
15:52 khall_scourge_o_ye_great_lakes next up after talk like a pirate day, talk like a ninja day! Where nobody be allowed to speak at all!
15:53 jcamins ar?
15:53 wahanui We're a band of vicious pirates! A-sailing out to sea. When you hear our gentle singing... you'll be sure to turn and flee!
15:53 jcamins arr?
15:53 wahanui We're a club of tuneful rovers! We can sing in every clef! We can even hit the high notes! It's just too bad we're tone deaf! A pirate I was meant to be! Trim the sails and roam the sea!
15:53 jcamins arrr?
15:53 wahanui We're thieving balladeers. A gang of cutthroat mugs. To fight us off ye don't need guns! Just jolly good ear plugs! A pirate I was meant to be! Trim the sails and roam the sea!
15:53 jcamins arrrr?
15:53 wahanui We'll fight you in the harbor. We'll battle you on land. But when you meet singing pirates... They'll be more than you can stand. Ooooh! That was a good one! No, it wasn't.
15:54 jcamins arrrrr?
15:54 wahanui We're a pack o' scurvy sea-dogs. Have we pity? Not a dram! We all eat roasted garlic... ...then sing from the diaphragm! A pirate I was meant to be! Trim the sails and roam the sea!
15:54 jcamins arrrrrr?
15:54 wahanui If ye try ta fight us... You will get a nasty whackin'! If ya disrespect our singin'... We will feed ya to a kraken! A pirate I was meant to be! Trim the sails and roam the sea!
15:54 jcamins arrrrrrr?
15:54 wahanui We're troublesome corsairs! And we've come to steal wahanui's treasures! We would shoot you on the downbeat... But we have to rest five measures. A pirate I was meant to be! Trim the sails and roam the sea!
15:54 jcamins arrrrrrrr?
15:54 wahanui Guess the song's over then.
15:57 jcamins tcohen: I think the fernet might have been a little too strong for wahanui. ^^
16:02 tcohen hah, ROTFL
16:05 jcamins wahanui: less singing, more sailing
16:05 wahanui When we defeat our wicked foe, his ship he will be bailing!
16:15 druthb arrrrrrrrr?
16:15 * druthb pokes wahanui
16:15 wahanui ouch!
16:15 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie
16:15 wahanui thanks druthb :)
16:20 Lackey_Mad_Stubble garsh!
16:35 rambutan ByWater must be playing Dungeons and Dragons today.
16:36 Lackey_Mad_Stubble it's national talk like a pirate day! so we've all got excellent pirate names!
16:36 Lackey_Mad_Stubble well except just_nengard
16:37 * just_nengard can't figure out who anyone is
16:38 rambutan Well, I could be Jesse James. He was kinda like a pirate, except he kept his feet wet and stole from banks instead of ships.
16:38 Lackey_Mad_Stubble garrrr you gots to listen to our scurvy breath and ya figure out who be who
16:49 oleonard Mmm... Man-lunch.
16:49 tweetbot_ [off] @ByWaterSolution: "Roseville Public Library chooses Libki Support from ByWater Solutions http://t.co/813UvuGJOK #KohaILS"
16:50 Lackey_Mad_Stubble hahahah Man-lunch
17:05 mtompset Helps to remember how to identify yourself. :)
17:17 Jesse_James Looks like Ed is having identity issues
17:19 * mtompset laughs.
17:20 mtompset How appropriate, Hipolito_Bouchard. :)
17:20 Hipolito_Bouchard save your words sailor
17:20 Hipolito_Bouchard :)
17:21 Hipolito_Bouchard haven't seen any canadian pirate for a while
17:22 Peter_Easton Arrr.... I was never overtaken or captured by any fleet commissioned to hunt him down.
17:25 Peg_Leg_Penelope Arr
17:26 * Peg_Leg_Penelope wonders what jcamins' pirate name would be. Dapper_Dan_from_New_Amsterdam?
17:26 Bartholomew_Roberts And da tale of my voyages, including a fine time off the Canadian coast, have been told 'round da world. Arrr. :)
17:27 mtompset Enough of the pirate life. :)
17:28 * Peg_Leg_Penelope sings, "I want to sing and dance/ I want to sing and dance/ I want to be a pirate in the Pirates of Penzance/ With me silver buckle slippers and me tight shiny pants/ I want to sing and daaaaaaance!"
17:31 mtompset Do the pants have sequins? Or are they jus metallic in colour? :)
17:42 Hipolito_Bouchard bye #koha
17:57 Disembowlin_Ted_Smythe geeeeeeargh
17:58 mtompset ARG. It would seem that I need to rebase my patch, yet again.
17:59 Kaptein_Sabeltann yaaarrr, rebase alle the patches or walk the plank!
18:10 mtompset Kaptein_Sabeltann: Why not Alv Erlingsson?
18:11 Kaptein_Sabeltann mtompset: i was saving that for you
18:24 mtompset Reminds me of that Whitney Houston song: http://youtu.be/ewxmv2tyeRs
18:25 mtompset Greetings, drojf.
18:42 oleonard I can't tell if talking like pirates has made us less productive (very quiet in here) or more (everyone working instead of chatting)
18:42 seneca Good whatever-it-is-where-you-are! Anyone know who I should speak to about getting a bug fix into the Debian Koha package?
18:43 mtompset Have you checked to see if someone hasn't already reported it in bugzilla?
18:43 seneca Bug 9299 (http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299) is signed off on, but the fix is not yet in the package.
18:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Signed Off , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail
18:43 huginn` 04Bug 9299: major, P3, ---, nunyo, Signed Off , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail
18:43 seneca Oh, it's already a bug - I submitted it.
18:44 seneca It now has a fix, and that fix needs to be wrapped into the Debian package
18:44 oleonard signed off -> Passed QA -> Pushed to master -> Into packages
18:44 seneca Thanks oleonard - anyway I can help push it along?
18:44 seneca It was signed off in July
18:44 oleonard Not unless you can bribe the QA team somehow
18:45 oleonard Did you do the signing off?
18:45 seneca Ha. :) I'm getting tired of manually fixing the offending file every time I dist-upgrade
18:45 seneca Nope.
18:45 oleonard You could add your signoff
18:46 seneca Yeah?
18:46 oleonard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches
18:47 seneca If it's already signed-off, would it help for me to do it again?
18:48 oleonard I believe it has been said that it will help
18:50 seneca Hmm.. Do I have to do that via git? I'm not a developer (hence I use the Debian package) :)
18:51 oleonard I don't know how to advise you there seneca
19:12 rangi seneca: it's a packaging related bug eh?
19:13 oleonard rangi: No, just a bug seneca would like to see fixed in the next version of the packages
19:13 rangi ah yeah, thats why i haven't qaed it, a catalyst person wrote the patch
19:14 rangi yeah, that bug annoys us too
19:14 rangi hopefully one of hte other qa team will pass qa on it
19:23 seneca Good news re: bug 9299, rangi, I just got an email from the QA guy (Brendan Gallagher) and it should pass through QA by the end of the week. :)
19:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Signed Off , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail
19:24 rangi excellent
19:26 tweetbot_ [off] @KohaILS: "#KohaILS [Koha-patches] [PATCH] Bug 9780 : Restric the right to suppress a record used in… http://t.co/ZgJ1ugaHR7"
19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Deleting a record suppress bibliographic info in orders using that record
19:39 rangi tcohen: http://www.atlantiscasino.com/resort/atlantis-airport-shuttle/
19:41 tcohen that's great rangi! thanks!
19:42 oleonard Hm, 4:30 am may be too late for my rescheduled-to-5:45AM departure :(
19:45 oleonard ...although the trip doesn't look that long, judging from the map
19:47 rangi yeah 7mins apparently
19:47 rangi 3.1 miles
19:47 rangi and 5.45am???
19:47 rangi wtf
19:47 rangi what day are you leaving oleonard ?
19:47 oleonard Wed. the 23rd
19:48 rangi sweet
19:49 oleonard We should have a page on the wiki where we can list our arrivals and departures
19:49 rangi yeah good idea
19:49 rangi lemme do that now
19:54 Shap-ng-Tsai lemme know when you get that done (post link?)
19:54 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon13/Arrivals
19:55 rangi also
19:55 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_Summary#Informal_Social_Activities
19:58 oleonard rangi: You need any 'murrican porridge to take home? :)
20:00 oleonard Whoops, quitting time!
20:00 rangi hmmm, i might do my sightseeing trip to a walmart
20:00 rangi its always a surreal experience
20:16 rangi right, time to head to drop off kids and then work
20:17 Shap-ng-Tsai wtf? the wiki doesn't have any record of me, and the new registration page insists I enter a "Real Name", but there isn't a "Real Name" field.
20:20 mtompset http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shap_Ng-tsai
20:47 tweetbot_ [off] @wizzyrea: "Do you really need that feature for the staff client to weave a better world. Worth thinking about. #KohaILS #rpt"
20:59 mtompset Well, time to put my chauffeur's hat back on.
21:05 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Suggestions as to why it failed?" (36 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/222
21:17 rangi back
21:18 yhager Hi, on our koha 3.10, anything we put in a non-public note (FA framework) does not get saved. It does when I use the default framework. Could this be a bug?
21:48 rambutan >whois jbfink https://index.docker.io/u/jbfink/koha/
21:51 rangi adr on twitter
22:54 eythian hi
22:54 wahanui niihau, eythian
22:54 jcamins [off] I have lost all hope for my profession.
22:55 jcamins [off] Again, I mean. Obviously this isn't the first time. It happens every time I notice the library rangers kickstarter, and every time I use a proprietary catalog.
22:58 eythian [off] what's wrong with the kickstarter? Not something I'd buy into, but it seems many people would.
23:01 jcamins [off] Fifteen thousand dollars for... little embroidered badges to tell people you're a librarian? What about paper stickers that say "Hi, I'm a librarian" and contributing to the improvement of humanity?
23:03 jcamins [off] Or, heck, for five dollars you could probably get a little button made up.
23:03 eythian [off] that's 301 people though. Clearly that means people want it without the bother of doing it themselves.
23:06 jcamins [off] Right. Which is why I have lost all hope for librarians. It seems like every time I hear two librarians talking, it's about how it's the end of the library as we know it, and it's an unqualified disaster... with $15k librarians could maybe make a library catalog system sufficiently usable to be, you know, usable.
23:06 jcamins [off] In fact, I've heard of this ILS that is *free*.
23:08 jcamins [off] For anyone. Even people in developing countries who just have an old server that was donated in 2010 by an NGO that will not be mentioned.
23:09 eythian [off] everyone is susceptible to marketing in one way or another. Also, it's harder to attach sponsored improvements to your clothes.
23:10 jcamins [off] Oh, I know. I still find it horrifying.
23:12 eythian [off] a kickstarter for a search rewrite just isn't as appealing to the masses, alas :)
23:14 jcamins [off] I know. I think it bothers me particularly because I spend lots of time around librarians, and they all spend their time talking about how the library is dying and they wish there were something they could do. And here 301 people have decided that embroidered badges are the best thing they can do?
23:18 ibeardslee [off] but what if kickstarted for a search rewrite DID work if targetted at the right people?
23:18 rangi [off]there is the open source bounty one thingy, we could totally try one, and hell give them a badge too
23:20 rangi [off] https://www.bountysource.com/
23:24 jcamins [off] Yeah, someone from there contacted me yesterday. I suggested seeing if wizzyrea wanted to spearhead the project, since I don't want to.
23:45 dcook morning #koha
23:53 wizzyrea yes, I should contact them
23:53 wizzyrea is this a sekkrit talk?
23:53 wizzyrea because I'm too lazy to off.
23:53 wizzyrea :P
23:54 * dcook backs away slowly
23:54 jcamins wizzyrea: the nick is ccverg or something like that.
23:56 wizzyrea yep I found her/him on freenode
23:56 wizzyrea her
23:57 dcook them?