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23:56 tcohen oh
23:49 dcook I'm still working on getting back to the gym after sickness/injury
23:49 dcook Maybe one of these days I'll have to give it a whirl
23:40 tcohen hi wizzyrea
23:39 wizzyrea tennis is great fun.
23:39 tcohen but is really fun to play
23:38 tcohen s
23:38 tcohen its a bit frustrating when you do your first step
23:37 dcook There are a few tennis courts by my house but I've never played
23:37 dcook I like the idea of tennis :)
23:32 * tcohen likes tennis
23:32 tcohen watching the us open finals
23:32 dcook How about you?
23:32 dcook Doin
23:32 * dcook shrugs
23:31 tcohen how r u doin dcook?
23:31 dcook hey ya tcohen
23:30 tcohen morning/evening #koha
21:53 jcamins Or, in the case of FRBR and RDA, *unsophisticated*.
21:53 jcamins Answer: humans are sort of like sophisticated machines.
21:50 jcamins So where is the machine readable list of attributes?
21:49 jcamins FRBR is this post-modern technology-based standard, right?
21:48 jcamins That's the general "you."
21:48 jcamins Here's a puzzler for you.
21:43 eythian hi
20:54 cait being annoying wa smy promise when I ran for QAM ;)
20:54 pianohacker cait: fair enough. The removals were fairly-well vetted, just trying to expunge every usage of C4::Calendar
20:52 cait and removing can be as dangerous as adding :)
20:52 cait pianohacker: i just get suspicious when a patch that big is so small on comments and documentation
20:52 pianohacker cait: Only changes to Overdues.pm were removing unused functions that used C4::Calendar
20:48 cait and also for fine calculation - not sure the changes in overdues.pm were covered? I'd have to check again
20:48 cait like what will change when you enter closing and opening times?
20:48 pianohacker cait: Just as a comment on the bug? I can draw that up
20:48 cait pianohacker: a description of what the patch does and changes
20:47 pianohacker cait: What form of documentation, though?
20:47 pianohacker cait: documentation, yes. As far as testing goes, however, the extensions to Koha::Calendar, the interface used by fines.pl and circulation.pl, are extensively vetted in the unit tests
20:45 cait I think some documentation would be good
20:45 cait pianohacker: could you take a look at my notes on your patch for closing and opening dates?
20:45 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.2Â°C (10:45 PM CEST on September 09, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
20:45 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search
20:25 pianohacker Thanks for the cleanup on bug 10320, and pushing it
20:25 pianohacker gmcharlt++
20:21 mtompset Have a great day, #koha
19:30 oleonard Bye #koha
19:26 cait magnus_away: ping
18:58 cait oleonard++ :)
17:59 mtompset bye, tcohen.
17:58 tcohen bye #koha
17:52 cait nancyk++
17:11 ryanlee Anyway, thanks for the feedback! I'll give some of this stuff a try!
17:06 ryanlee Someone looked at Kiosk mode in Chrome as an option, which apparently has silent printing options available
17:04 ryanlee But I think they used a plugin maybe?
17:04 ryanlee One of the techs here has played with it, I think, I haven't personally.
17:02 jcamins Does silent printing work for you with your receipt printers under Chrome?
17:02 ryanlee Also try out this Firefox Plugin/JS
17:00 ryanlee Or I may recommend trying Chrome/Chromium for the browser to use with the OPAC/Silent Printing
17:00 ryanlee jcamins: I may push for the non-existent proxy
16:59 ryanlee oleonard: Some changes with personas and private browsing. Font changes as well. I'm not the lead on this so this is just what I've heard. But I figured you guys might have some ideas.
16:57 jcamins If no site other than your catalog is accessible, it becomes less of an issue if it's out of date.
16:57 jcamins ryanlee: right, that's why I'm suggesting you not upgrade.
16:57 oleonard Like what ryanlee? I haven't used Portable Firefox in ages.
16:56 ryanlee jcamins: But I guess we could just start complaining on their mailing list.
16:56 ryanlee jcamins: Yeah, we currently have something set up like that, and it works, to an extent. Our biggest problem with Portable Firefox is they keep removing features we like.
16:55 ryanlee cait: I think this is different, we're looking over it now.
16:55 jcamins Added benefit: you never need to visit any of the libraries.
16:55 jcamins Create new Portable Firefox installation that is preconfigured with all that, add autorun that replaces the existing, and mail the disk to all the libraries. Done.
16:54 cait ryanlee: i think you are already using that solution - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_up_slip_printer_to_print_silently
16:54 ryanlee jcamins: That is a very clever idea
16:53 jcamins There may be a better way to do it, but I can't think of an easier one.
16:53 ryanlee jcamins: HA!
16:53 jcamins Easy solution: configure FF to use a non-existent proxy server for everything other than nexpress.
16:52 ryanlee Just curious to see what others were doing.
16:52 ryanlee But yes, that is where we are at now, and if that is the best solution we will stick with it.
16:51 ryanlee jcamins: That is the solution we currently have in place. Which is working (obviously), but while they are just suppose to use that version of Firefox for Koha, we have no guarantee of that.
16:51 jcamins The librarians aren't using that version of FF for anything other than Koha, right?
16:51 jcamins If the problem is just that every time FF updates it erases the settings, the easy solution is to disable updates, and do them once a year when you are at that particular library.
16:50 cait brb
16:50 jcamins ryanlee: why don't you disable automatic updates?
16:50 ryanlee What is the Firefox plugin/JS solution you are referring to?
16:49 ryanlee By silent printing I mean it doesn't prompt them to do anything, it just prints.
16:49 cait ?
16:49 cait which i think you meant by silent printingÃŸ
16:49 cait hm i think the best we can currently do is the thing with the firefox plugin and js
16:48 ryanlee breaking everything*
16:48 cait hi druthb
16:48 ryanlee selecting the receipt printer every time they want to print to it?
16:48 ryanlee I've got a fun one for everyone today. We have some libraries in our system with Receipt printers. Currently, we have them using the OPAC in Portable Firefox with silent printing turned on and the Receipt Printer selected as the default printer. So when they print it just automatically prints to the receipt printer. The problem is Portable Firefox keeps updating and breaking anything. Is there a simpler solution to this that doesn't involve our librarians
16:39 druthb hi, cait. :)
16:29 mtompset Is the ISBD view from the opac details screen intended to display holding information?
16:13 reiveune bye
15:59 oleonard Hi ryanlee
15:59 ryanlee Hello all!
15:23 oleonard Yes that explains everything.
15:22 mtompset supernatural? CSS floats are super-natural, oleonard. It has to do with "cascading". ;)
15:06 oleonard CSS floats. Are they magic? Or haunted?
14:43 vfernandes ok thanks
14:39 kf yea, that's coded in the standard
14:39 kf aah
14:39 vfernandes 7xx $4 author function code
14:39 kf we are using authorised values for subjects - but in that case koha puts in the description into the xml directly
14:39 kf it dependson the field i think
14:38 kf marcxml - and there you have the codes I think, depending on your use
14:38 vfernandes in xsl files
14:38 vfernandes so it has to be hard coded
14:38 kf vfernandes: the xslt processes the marcxmkl
14:38 kf vfernandes: currently it is not
14:37 vfernandes in XSLT is possible to present the description of one authorised value instead of the code?
14:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9093 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , 008 forgetting what material type was chosen
14:34 jcamins bug 9093
14:28 jcamins Not that I've noticed.
14:28 nengard for some reason i thought that there were some that didn't show
14:28 nengard okey dokey
14:28 jcamins nengard: all 5xx by default.
14:22 nengard hi all - i have a documentation question. Can someone tell me which notes fields show in the title notes tab in the opac? I want to put the list in the documentation for the NotesBlacklist preference
14:16 tcohen (that was the problem with my code)
14:16 tcohen FTR: always wrap the ListMore::Utils any/none/all commands inside parenthesis
14:15 kf :)
14:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Choose language using URL parameters in any page
14:09 tcohen gmcharlt: i've just attached unit tests for the problem you found with my patch for bug 9735
13:34 mtompset Okay, okay. Just making sure the standard is applied somehow. :P
13:33 druthb mtompset, you get no such pass. Yet.
13:33 druthb He does other nice things, too, which gives him a pass.
13:31 druthb oleonard is too chirpy too early this morning, but he does that often enough for it to not be a crime.
13:31 druthb naah.
13:31 oleonard Sassyness? That's a peltin'.
13:30 * druthb gets some handy, in case someone earns a peltin'.
13:29 mtompset druthb: Ready the skittles?
13:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
13:26 oleonard Hey who wants to put a signoff on Bug 10309? Everyone? Awesome.
13:23 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
13:23 tcohen hi mtompset
13:22 mtompset Greetings, druthb.
13:21 druthb hi, mtompset! :)
13:20 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:14 kf tcohen++ for helping me write unit tests :)
13:09 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.213 pasted "please help #koha gurus" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/207
13:06 kf that'stoo high for me sorry
13:06 tcohen but if I loop on the cookies array and test ref eq CGI::Cookie it does work...
13:05 tcohen perl gurus around: this doesn't seem to work "all { ref($_) eq 'CGI::Cookie' } @$cookies"
12:28 kf hi all
12:28 nengard morning
12:26 tcohen a
12:26 tcohen morning oleonard#koh
12:26 oleonard Hi #koha
12:03 vfernandes why the error? I've tested in another server the same commands and it worked
12:02 vfernandes then "base biblios", "format xml" and "f @attr 1=1016 "prejudice""
12:01 vfernandes i'm using the command: yaz-client unix:/..../var/run/bibliosocket
12:01 vfernandes I'm trying to use yaz-client to see the zebra indexes but I'm getting error "[109] Database unavailable -- v2 addinfo ''"
11:59 vfernandes on an UNIMARC installation
11:59 vfernandes today I'm facing problems with koha 3.12 and callnumber and barcodes searches
11:59 vfernandes hi guys
10:42 Viktor We're live on Koha now since two hours and 42 minutes :)
10:41 Viktor Hi kf! (sorry was on lunch)
10:32 kf hi reiveune
10:32 kf hi Viktor :)
09:35 Viktor Hi!
09:31 reiveune hello
08:41 Joubu added to the cc list, I will provide the patch when it will be pushed.
08:41 kf cool :)
08:40 Joubu no, quite easy
08:40 kf Joubu: it's not in yet so probably it can wait - I just thought it could be useful. hope it's not too hard
08:39 Joubu kf: ok, I will do it
08:30 kf i will try to get started on your 2 bugs tonight
08:27 kf just an idea and a nicely asked question :)
08:27 kf i already pushed it back once because there were new ones going in and now did a follow up myself - I think we might see some problems until the old patches are all in
08:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Remove doubled up TT plugins
08:26 kf bug 10626
08:26 kf I saw your follow up for checking wthdrawn - could you maybe add a check for the deprecated plugins later too?
08:26 kf thx for the patches
08:26 kf hi :)
08:25 Joubu kf: yep!
08:19 kf Joubu: around?
07:27 christophe_c hello rangi ;-)
07:21 rangi hi christophe_c
07:20 christophe_c hello #koha
06:44 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.2Â°C (8:40 AM CEST on September 09, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 11.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
06:44 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:00 eythian http://31.media.tumblr.com/8eb09b16b47b7a93f395cb79f9a13f02/tumblr_msk4mk71VF1r6gwmko1_500.jpg
05:19 cait hm nope, not yet
05:18 * cait checks if bgkriegel hs brought her queue over 70 again
05:18 cait :)
05:18 eythian it's alright. I did prefer holiday though :)
05:17 cait how is being back?
05:17 cait hi eythian :)
05:17 wahanui hello cait are you here?
05:17 eythian hello cait
05:12 cait hi dcook
05:11 dcook morning cait
05:10 cait good morning #koha
04:58 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
04:29 mtompset ARG! Is OPACHiddenItems even implemented in MARCdetail or ISBDdetail? Did I mention I hate finding larger scope problems when testing.
04:20 mtompset Oops... silly no semi-colon.
04:19 mtompset Hmmm... question... Does opac/opac-ISBDdetail.pl even use items at all? That loop looks no-op to me.
04:00 eythian oh ah
04:00 mtj eythian: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon2014_Proposals
03:57 wahanui nigeria is well ahead?
03:57 eythian nigeria?
03:56 mtj woah nigeria! (just read the scrolback)
03:54 mtompset DOH! hit by a rebase problem.
03:44 mtj but, yeah - good point liz
03:44 dcook ^^
03:44 mtj i should have said, not many kathryns on OTFC :o)
03:44 wizzyrea and that's just the ones I can think of
03:44 wizzyrea kat, katherine, kathy, katy, cathryn, catherine
03:43 kathryn a ha- ha- ha....mtj
03:43 wizzyrea lots of different spellings for kathryn
03:43 wizzyrea there are probably heaps.
03:43 wizzyrea that seems... unlikely.
03:42 mtj ...not many girls on the otfc network, perhaps?
03:42 kathryn *too
03:42 kathryn you are all to kind
03:42 eythian http://www.oftc.net/Services/ <-- specifically
03:42 mtompset And then remember how to identify yourself. ;)
03:42 kathryn and thanks mtj :)
03:42 kathryn weird noone has it huh?
03:41 mtj hey kathryn, you should 'register' your nick, so no one else can pinch it
03:40 mtompset I personally like the // or {}. :)
03:40 eythian actually, maybe not xx, I'm not sure.
03:39 eythian ||, [], {}, xx, ##, ...
03:39 eythian there are many options
03:39 dcook qw//; is another option, no?
03:39 eythian I'd be surprised
03:38 mtompset Isn't using parethesis for qw being obsoleted?
03:38 eythian heh
03:38 kathryn I half expected you to steal my nick...thank eythian :)
03:38 eythian (as in, you type that)
03:37 eythian /nick kathryn
03:37 kathryn_ can anyone tell me how to change me nick? that underscore follows me like a bad smell :)
03:37 rangi where you define what you want to use
03:37 rangi use qw();
03:37 rangi it should be use
03:36 mtompset in the GetHiddenItems function.
03:36 mtompset C4::Items calls YAML::Load without a use or require at the top.
03:36 mtompset I'm tweaking opac/opac-detail.pl, opac/opac-MARCdetail.pl, and opac/opac-ISBDdetail.pl -- use C4::Items; and a call to GetHiddenItems() fails for MARCdetail.
03:34 mtompset Yes, but both solve the YAML::Load failure problem. So, which is the correct/best?
03:33 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon2014_Proposals
03:33 rangi mtompset: they do different things, use is require; import;
03:33 rangi nigeria in the house
03:29 mtompset Which is plak friendlier: 'use' or 'require'?
03:28 mtompset Which use plak friendlier 'use' or 'require'?
03:27 kathryn_ doh!
03:27 mtompset common typo. No h. :)
03:27 kathryn_ hi mthompset :)
03:27 mtompset Greetings, kathryn_.
03:26 mtompset Greetings, kathryn.
03:00 mtompset Is some other "use" statement in the other two triggering the load of YAML::Load?
02:59 mtompset Question: what could trigger a &YAML::Load error message for opac-MARCdetail.pl, but not opac-detail.pl and opac-ISBDdetail.pl?
02:56 mtompset Okay, confused... only opac-MARCdetail.pl is failing to hide. Read the logs.
02:47 mtompset ARG! You think you've solved a bug, and then another test case comes to mind, and you realize you need to modify another 2 files.
01:40 gmcharlt indeed
01:38 dcook I'm sure it had its time and its place...
01:38 dcook Record contained characters that could not be converted to machine-readable form (e.g., incidental nonroman characters on predominantly roman alphabet records, mathematical symbols, etc.).
01:38 dcook Bibliographic data in the MARC record is completely romanized and any printed cards produced are also in romanized form.
01:38 dcook MARC 008 position 38
01:18 mtompset Thanks.
01:18 mtompset Not a problem. That frees me to work on other stuff until the testing tomorrow. :)
01:17 gmcharlt mtompset: I won't be testing until tomorrow, but upon looking at it, my eyeball believes that it likely addresses my concern
01:15 mtompset Ah there you are, gmcharlt. I've put up a revision on the patch for 10584, but I'd like some feedback on it, so I could tweak it better if there are still problems.
01:14 gmcharlt hi mtompset
01:14 mtompset Greetings, papa.
00:32 mtompset gmcharlt: You around?
00:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
00:04 dcook hehe
00:03 eythian http://31.media.tumblr.com/de372d994625530e6cbbff37ef45073a/tumblr_ms8uvovA8e1qzib9vo1_500.png