Time  Nick         Message
01:33 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10272: (follow-up) add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e831a7eb3fe21561264cc756f40c539333e8ebbc> / Bug 10272: make CheckReserves respect ReservesControlBranch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=78eba2f974ca9e8ff51f64d2356b004e7bfcecff> / Bug 10584 - Hide OPAC biblio details if all items are hidden <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh
01:43 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10324: fix display of editorial series in normal view (UNIMARC / no XSLT) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=384566c1295a81dce0d9de001fcde36f2a996dfa>
01:53 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10349 - Don't show empty Descriptions/Title notes tabs in OPAC and staff <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5c7badb31dff9afcbb69e4f58155560e98a922f>
02:13 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10333: Labels/t_Batch.t needs to create its own data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=402435b17a1ae32fb41b6fdde39b94059fdb2c2f> / Bug 10550: DBRev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dc7c378225c1fb1e59b53d7f0245d8f5de07466> / Bug 10550: (follow-up) correct one additional instances of 'wthdrawn' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=
02:33 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10325: (follow-up) add test for overriding system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c5e3170b9c62b3f881fdecb15d83a0bc35eed65> / Bug 10325: (follow-up) fix typos and whitespace in httpd.conf example <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9719215b45c99e9fa2429992d2b2b1daa1c6cf3> / Bug 10325 - QA Followup - Fix typos <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe
03:55 * mtompset   wonders what to do about a eleven year old comment.
05:13 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10325: (follow-up) restore case-insensivity of syspref cache <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4c2ee3d9d22d1be93b6dfca5c251a03ec120125>
05:24 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7478: fix template translation problem in catalogue_out.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8e1e7e217363a165275dca46e7d123633a64920>
05:33 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
05:54 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9531: Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90e2aafeb538f2d5e52fd1d32fce528f72076df8>
06:04 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9845: correct SIP 08checkin.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f5eef782cea307da809dfac7a2506a11c2bfda2>
06:15 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9252 - Add option to send patron's home branch in AF field - QA Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2482819de984200f6c1d0387b3c9fd8ad10940b3> / Bug 9252 - Add option to send patron's home branch in AF field <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1de36fbb94c8e4046f564b200a1e8180df5bfcf>
06:36 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10619 - fix errors in sco.css for the CCSR OPAC templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=794f0f28c931ae885232c23d02f94bfed66158f5> / Bug 10769 - Simplify clearing of input fields when duplicating a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c8c9bb0fe23addc624e2a97331c8ec9cd80a9dd> / Bug 10027: (follow-up) improve display of fine details on printed invoice
07:06 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10320: (follow-up) handle OverDrive authentication failure more gracefully <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8363e5440ed2cf0f6976ce1e8a965272089ec887> / Bug 10320: DBrev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bc1077763ef0ff84fe658deec59a9c1a961155a> / Bug 10320: (follow-up) tidy up new system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.
07:06 cait         aah
07:07 cait         good morning #koha :)
07:16 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9943: activate "Pay selected" button only when at least one fine is selected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6434f9264ac0415e1e52904dc953a00ee0806491>
07:16 cait         gmcharlt: still busy? :)
07:26 cait         bgkriegel++
07:27 * magnuse    waves
07:27 cait         hey magnuse
07:27 cait         how is it going?
07:30 magnuse      guten morgen cait
07:30 magnuse      just about to get started
07:30 magnuse      but everything takes soooo much time...
07:31 magnuse      as i said on twitter recently: why have libraries not forced vendors to agree on a common format for data export/import between ILSes?
07:35 cait         magnuse: guess there are many not so nice about libraries reasons for that
07:35 magnuse      yeah...
07:43 gmcharlt     magnuse: well, one issue is that they would get used only sporadically
07:44 gmcharlt     e.g. lots of reasons to exchange MARC records all the time, fewer reasons to do batch import/exports of anything else
07:44 magnuse      gmcharlt: yeah, but maybe more often if migrations were easier to do - and they are hard because there is no common format... ;-)
07:44 gmcharlt     (I'm treated things like NCIP, SIP2, OAI-PMH, as fulfilling a different application need)
07:45 gmcharlt     magnuse: yeah, but there's always a shorter term need that provides more immediate payoff
07:45 magnuse      hehe, true
07:46 cait         yeah
07:46 gmcharlt     i.e., given a choice between developing a feature that patrons can use "now" versus something that may only be useful to the library five years later, when they get sick of their current ILS... the longer-term considerations is not likely to win
07:47 magnuse      well, libraries should force vendors to implement a common format out of their own pocket: "we will not buy this unless it supports import/export with formatX"
07:48 gmcharlt     also ... too much emphasis on a common interchange format could run the risk of ossifying ILS R&D even more than it is already
07:48 magnuse      but then like every other library standard there would of course be vendor specific versions and implementations of formatX...
07:48 gmcharlt     heh
07:48 gmcharlt     can you imagine the committee meetings? :)
07:48 magnuse      hehe
07:49 cait         maybe we really better concentrate on something else :)
07:49 gmcharlt     to be honest, IMO it's really sufficient if libraries just get all the vendors to use standard DBMSes,  document their database schemas, and provide tools to get *everything* out in text/XML/something-sensible format
07:49 cait         also there might be information loss if you tried to define a common format
07:50 cait         gmcharlt++
07:50 cait         good morning drojf :)
07:51 gmcharlt     and now, to bed ... this time... FOR REAL, I tell you!  really, truly!
07:51 cait         :)
07:51 magnuse      sleep tight gmcharlt
07:52 cait         sleep well :)
07:52 * drojf      passes gmcharlt the baton of sleep
07:52 drojf        good morning #koha
07:52 * magnuse    is working on a migration now where i have the whole db i text format, and it is not fun
07:52 magnuse      moin drojf
07:52 * cait       hands drojf some green tea to start the morning with
07:53 drojf        :)
07:53 drojf        hi magnuse and cait
07:54 drojf        magnuse: i imagined that text db to be on paper and had to laugh. i hope it is not. ;)
07:54 magnuse      drojf: not quite :-)
07:54 drojf        good :)
07:55 cait         hm queue back to 74
07:55 cait         i had it down to 69 last night..
07:55 cait         i better get started
07:56 magnuse      hehe
08:08 cait         one down... 73 to go
08:16 magnuse      cait++
08:16 cait         better keep that karma :)
08:16 magnuse      @karma cait
08:16 huginn`      magnuse: Karma for "cait" has been increased 453 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 452.
08:16 magnuse      :-)
08:17 magnuse      @karma
08:17 huginn`      magnuse: Highest karma: "rangi" (895), "oleonard" (768), and "jcamins" (638).  Lowest karma: "ie" (-120), "<!" (-114), and "failed" (-104).  You (magnuse) are ranked 10 out of 2622.
08:17 magnuse      hehe "poor" ie
08:17 magnuse      <!++
08:17 magnuse      @karma <!
08:17 huginn`      magnuse: Karma for "<!" has been increased 14 times and decreased 127 times for a total karma of -113.
08:18 cait         @karma kf
08:18 huginn`      cait: Karma for "kf" has been increased 312 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 312.
08:18 cait         @karma cait
08:18 huginn`      cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 453 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 452.
08:19 cait         @karma gmcharlt
08:19 huginn`      cait: Karma for "gmcharlt" has been increased 482 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 477.
08:19 cait         gmcharlt++ # totally needed
08:19 cait         hm totally deserved :)
08:25 cait         hi connor_dewar :)
08:25 connor_dewar Hello!  :)
08:26 cait         still learning python? :)
08:27 connor_dewar i am , still my favouite langauge! :), iv also got php under my belt and im about to start working on ruby
08:27 connor_dewar maybe perl to
08:29 connor_dewar so i was wanting to do some work with koha, so i got koha using git but am unsure whats next :/
08:33 cait         :)
08:34 cait         hm, where are you stuck? and what have you used as instructions to install?
08:35 connor_dewar i used this link : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git . and im not sure what it is i can contribute haha.
08:38 magnuse      connor_dewar: have a look around bugzilla and you can probably find plenty to do ;-)
08:41 connor_dewar Will have a look thanks magnuse :)
08:43 cait         connor_dewar: you will want to take a look at intallation instructions next i think, if you cloned the git repo
08:43 cait         like running Makefile.PL
08:44 cait         magnuse++ # developer's handbook
08:44 cait         hm qa'd one and signed off one... remaining at 73... doh.
08:44 connor_dewar Where would i find installation instructions?
08:45 cait         what OS have you installed on?
08:46 connor_dewar ubuntu 12.04
08:47 cait         hm this doesn't look too bad: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_git
08:47 cait         you probably have done the git steps, but you still might want to install the packages to get the depenencies
08:48 cait         hi druthb_away :)
08:49 connor_dewar thanks will do. so with bugzilla, i find a bug that doesnt look too hard, and well fix it?
08:49 cait         yep
08:49 cait         basically that is it :)
08:50 cait         we might have suggestions when you get your koha runnng ;)
08:52 connor_dewar Thanks for the help ill get it going now :)
09:48 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
09:48 huginn`      drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 20.9°C (11:43 AM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
09:49 drojf        so the weather lied to me and i spent the last 26° day in a cold library. thanks, weather
10:00 cait         sip2 is confusing
10:27 cait         yay
10:27 * cait       deterines 10817 works as expected
10:44 magnuse      bug 10817
10:44 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10817 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Passed QA , SIPserver does not return holds info when requested
10:44 magnuse      yay
10:57 cait         ColinC++ for providing a test script
11:01 cait         and the test script even worked like a charm
11:25 magnuse      ColinC++ then :-)
11:28 cait         how is the migration?
11:52 * cait       laughsl maly having checked out and checked in an item via sip!
11:52 cait         lol
11:52 * cait       laughs madly of course
12:20 * magnuse    thought "laughsl maly" was kinf of appropriate for sip ;-)
12:21 magnuse      the migration is slogging along - 80% of the data takes 20% of the time, and then the remaining 20% of the data takes 80% of the time...
12:22 magnuse      s/kinf/kind/
12:23 magnuse      heh "cait laughs madly of course" is nice when you take it out of context :-)
12:28 cait         :)
12:48 magnuse      what does the fox say?
12:48 wahanui      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
12:48 magnuse      moahahahaha
12:49 cait         hehe
12:54 magnuse      i just had another listen and the view count went up by ~40k while i was watching...
13:22 * magnuse    needs some fresh air
13:26 magnuse      and a new brain
13:40 cait         new brain sounds good
14:08 jcamins      magnuse is right. What does the fox say? is horrifyingly catchy.
14:10 magnuse      moahahahaha
14:32 jcamins      What should I do with a squid?
14:35 magnuse      use it as a proxy?
14:36 jcamins      Hehe.
14:36 jcamins      I was thinking of the edible kind.
14:36 magnuse      ah, sorry
14:36 cait         carefuly cut it criss cross and then pan fry?
14:36 magnuse      what kind? the classical one from the cartoons, with a big head in the middle and arms all around?
14:37 magnuse      or the kind with a long tube-like body?
14:37 cait         magnuse: i think you think octopus :)
14:37 jcamins      Squid = tube-like body.
14:37 magnuse      ah, ok
14:37 jcamins      I'm not quite ready to try cooking an octopus yet.
14:37 magnuse      hehe
14:37 cait         octopus is good raw
14:37 cait         :)
14:37 * jcamins    shudders
14:37 cait         so you don't have to cook it :P
14:37 magnuse      first thing i think of is calamares a la romana
14:38 magnuse      cut the body into rings, dunk them in some kind of uhm batter and deep fry them
14:38 magnuse      yummy with a squeeze of lemon and a salad
14:38 jcamins      Yeah, that's the first thing that came to my mind too. :)
14:38 magnuse      ooh, great minds think alike ;-)
14:39 * cait       likes the healthier variant without batter :P
14:39 cait         but fried is yummy
14:39 jcamins      cait: I'm thinking about something like this, to avoid the unhealthiness of frying: http://blog.foodnetwork.com/healthyeats/2012/05/07/fried-calamari-the-healthy-eats-way/
14:40 magnuse      i once had dinner at a fish restaurant in barcelona. on the next table were a young japanese (?) couple with a dictionary. when they were served large bowls of more or less whole octopus they almost fainted ;-)
14:41 jcamins      magnuse: you'd think a young Japanese couple would know how to deal with an octopus.
14:41 magnuse      yeah, and they might have done, but it was definitely not what they expected, judging by the looks on their faces
14:42 jcamins      Hehe.
14:42 * jcamins    wouldn't have expected it either.
14:42 cait         that looks very yummy
14:42 cait         i will need to buy panko at some point
14:42 cait         magnuse: hm raw octopus is janpanese...
14:42 cait         japanese
14:43 cait         maybe they were unhappy it was cooked? :P
14:43 jcamins      magnuse: but you know how it is with octopi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7WJXHY2OXGE#t=36
14:45 jcamins      cait: yeah, looks like I need to buy panko breadcrumbs too.
14:54 magnuse      @wunder boo
14:54 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 16.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
14:54 magnuse      @wunder oslo
14:54 huginn`      magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
14:54 magnuse      @wunder oslo, norway
14:54 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Holter, Holter, Norway is 23.0°C (4:52 PM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
14:54 magnuse      @wunder osl
14:54 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Oslo Airport, Norway is 21.0°C (4:20 PM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
17:09 * jcamins    has squid. :D
17:09 cait         yay :)
17:09 jcamins      Frozen squid rings, actually, because it was the same price as fresh, and I figured one step at a time.
17:09 cait         do you have a teleportert too?
17:09 jcamins      Nope.
17:09 jcamins      Just squid.
17:09 jcamins      And panko breadcrumbs.
17:09 cait         ooh
17:12 cait         i am trying to test a packages patch
17:41 jcamins      This is incredibly awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywWBy6J5gz8
17:43 cait         hi drojf
17:45 * jcamins    thinks that all algorithms classes should be taught by Hungarian folk dancers.
17:45 cait         :)
17:45 cait         bubble sort is nice
19:26 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10331 - Little errors in unimarc_field_4XX.pl (punctuation) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=86c08e63a25afa86c9051f070d819ddac675425d> / Bug 9924: (follow-up) ensure that correct error message is displayed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=46bbfa12a1d20cfaea2c61ad9bf1fdb47a25435a> / Bug 9924 - Simplify and rename patron card creator error message include <h
19:33 cait         oh looks like gmcharlt is awake again? :)
19:36 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10564 - use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc240a908d0fbc50b099df04e61da9fbb55fab52>
19:56 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10817: return hold items info in SIP Patron Info Response <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63820d3973dae7514556172665a46c0584aaefc8>
20:13 cait         hi Viktor
20:14 Viktor       Hi cait!
20:36 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10630: give DelBookseller() a return value <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=995a270dd10bd2dd56222fcdcb29ab033fad567e> / Bug 10718: fix items with no checkouts report <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec09fe092e302dfbaf8ddf2a26ab361be9ea915e>
20:46 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10320: (follow-up) remove stray merge conflict marker <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3a0e603fb2baa7aef9f1243739b243d0aaff657> / Bug 10640: (follow-up) bump up the number of expected tests in Bookseller.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c26ab35be632e7130a13e94e5767d182a42a2595> / Bug 10640: give ModBookseller() an explicit return value. <http://git.koha
20:58 bgkriegel    Hi
21:00 cait         oh no
21:00 cait         bgkriegel is back to push my queue over 70 again!
21:00 cait         ;)
21:00 bgkriegel    hehe
21:00 cait         just joking, bgkriegel++ for weekend sign offs
21:00 bgkriegel    Hi cait :)
21:00 * wizzyrea   waves
21:01 bgkriegel    Hi wizzyrea
21:01 bgkriegel    Hey kiwis, Team NZ 3 - Oracle USA 0, in reality (3 , -2), on America's Cup :)
21:02 jcamins      bgkriegel: -2?
21:02 wahanui      -2 is good enough for me
21:03 bgkriegel    yes, penalized befor start
21:03 bgkriegel    something abut the boat
21:04 cait         hi wizzyrea
21:05 * cait       needs someone to take a look at bug 10667 :D
21:05 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10667 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , ILS-DI: AuthenticatePatron should also work with cardnumber
21:05 bgkriegel    looking
21:06 cait         well, probably not the first in the queue :) just happy that i got the patches done
21:08 cait         @wunder Konstanz
21:08 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 16.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
21:09 bgkriegel    @wunder cordoba, argentina
21:09 huginn`      bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 28.0°C (6:00 PM ART on September 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
21:09 bgkriegel    not bad for winter :)
21:09 cait         you couldsay so :)
21:11 bgkriegel    cait: all test pass, that's all?
21:12 cait         bgkriegel: the first patch is just adding unit tests - the second is a change and can be tested with IlS-DI too
21:12 cait         and running the tests
21:12 bgkriegel    ok
21:12 cait         you have to turn on the ils-di feature, then if you access the opac page there is documentation on how to craft the URLs
21:13 cait         the ils-di documentation page in opac
21:21 bgkriegel    ok, works using cardnumber as username :)
21:24 cait         sorry, i should have written more about the ils-di part of testing
21:32 bgkriegel    cait: done :)
21:33 cait         wow - thx bgkriegel!
21:56 eythian      hi
21:56 wahanui      bonjour, eythian
21:56 cait         hi eythian
21:56 eythian      hello
22:10 rangi        morning
22:11 cait         morning rangi
22:24 eythian      http://www.niwa.co.nz/niwa-photography-competition/2013
22:37 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10678 - Update addbooks help page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fcb6712fe5411b182b6f0d23c40d3ce6d44f3eb> / Bug 10678 - Allow framework selection when creating from Z39.50 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2e7e6ef1cc4306e5429ca99317b96479cfa26d2>
22:37 wizzyrea     what no pictures of the librarians?
22:38 eythian      apparently they don't go into icy places so much
23:05 dcook        morning #koha
23:06 rangi        hiya dcook
23:06 dcook        hey rangi
23:06 dcook        Good weekend?
23:07 rangi        busy but pretty good
23:40 dcook        UMontreal++
23:40 dcook        I guess that's only tangentially related to Koha...
23:40 dcook        They shared their Dspace MARC export files with me :)