Time  Nick          Message
23:46 eythian       no, it's a workshop
23:38 dcook         I just saw them on twitter this morning so I'm totally unaware about the whole thing
23:38 dcook         Wait...libtechdream is a conference?
23:38 dcook         That's neat. They're running the workshop?
23:37 dcook         Teamwork!
23:36 eythian       yeah, they're workshopping while I'm holding down the fort
23:33 dcook         Loving the #libtechdream tweets from wizzyrea and rangi
23:33 dcook         morning #koha
21:57 eythian       hi
20:48 cait          yeah
20:48 cait          ah ok
20:41 drnoe         again, a bit hard to troubleshoot when it's not longer possible to replicate
20:40 drnoe         they have changed this stuff patron categories and all the circ rules, so it is no longer happening...
20:40 cait          you want to check the renewal period setting in the circulation rule and the renewal related settings in the system preferences
20:39 cait          koha can't care about something it does no longer know about :)
20:39 cait          only the current circulation rule
20:39 cait          drnoe: it should not matter
20:39 drnoe         again, hard to know since it was all changed.  gonna push this one back with "need to know what the circulation rule was."  thanks cait
20:37 cait          is the renewal calculated from today or from the date due (that can lead to see no change, if it's calculated from today)
20:37 cait          is there a rnewal period configured in the circulation rules?
20:37 cait          are you sure the problem is related to the hard due date setting?
20:37 cait          they should renew normally i think
20:37 cait          if the circulation rule was deleted
20:36 drnoe         this is going to be a wild goose chase
20:36 drnoe         yeah, those were edited/deleted.  nice for trouble shooting, eh?
20:36 cait          what's the date due for the item and waht does the circulation rule say?
20:35 cait          before, after or hard?
20:35 cait          what is the setting?
20:31 drnoe         due date is not updating that is
20:30 drnoe         overdue items with a hard due date set are not changing upon renewal (apparently)
20:28 cait          i don't think you do - but i might not be understanding correctly what you are looking for
20:28 cait          and then it can be super hard.. being exactly the date
20:28 cait          after means the due date minimum is that date, but it will also be after, if you have longer periods
20:27 drnoe         so a due date is a due date.  so I am not missing anything there
20:27 cait          before means = it calculates the regular circulation period - but the due_date must be before the hard due date entered in circulation rules, so the loan period might be shortened
20:27 oleonard      Quitting time for me. Bye #koha
20:26 cait          the hard due dates are calculated from the circulation rules on checkout - then it doesn't have to know later if it's a hard one or not, just a due date
20:26 cait          it does know from the circulation rules
20:25 drnoe         hello #koha.  regarding hard due dates:  How would Koha know from the data in issues that a due date is a hard due date and if it's before, on, or after???  I am missing something here.
19:59 oleonard      mtompset: Sounds like you've got a new development on your list
19:58 mtompset      Hmmm... we'd prefer one URL (easy to disseminate), and use branch code to distinguish post log in.
19:57 oleonard      mtompset: I'm not sure if there's better information around, or whether that has been tested recently
19:57 oleonard      mtompset: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Support_for_multiple_PAC_interfaces_by_URL_RFC
19:55 * cait        is surprised herself
19:55 mtompset      multi-OPAC setup, oleonard?
19:55 jcamins       So I asked cait how to make maple potatoes, and she told me. :)
19:55 jcamins       oleonard: I suddenly came over all peckish and in the mood for something maple-y.
19:54 oleonard      cait has been channeling her inner Canadian?
19:49 druthb        cait++
19:47 cait          yw
19:47 cait          yv
19:47 cait          lol
19:47 jcamins       cait++ # for good advice on maple-bacon potatoes
19:35 cait          not sure that would work :)
19:35 jcamins       :D
19:35 jcamins       cait: new thesis topic!
19:35 cait          jcamins: you know he will never finish writing his thesis that way? ;)
19:34 cait          jcamins: interesting :)
19:30 huginn`       jcamins: The operation succeeded.
19:30 jcamins       @later tell drojf I have a project for you for after the GPG stuff: implement homomorphic encryption for circulation history so that people can choose to save their circ histories but not allowing the library access to that information.
19:30 cait          html5?
19:25 oleonard      Huh... I wouldn't have thought it would be valid to omit the "type" attribute of an <input>. I guess it defaults to "text"
19:05 * oleonard    wonders what "Whitlind Woods" is...
19:04 huginn`       oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is 26.4°C (3:01 PM EDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
19:04 oleonard      @wunder 45701
18:55 huginn`       druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 33.9°C (1:55 PM CDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
18:55 druthb        @wunder 77098
18:55 huginn`       cait: The current temperature in Geseke, Germany is 24.6°C (8:52 PM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
18:55 cait          @wunder Lippstadt
18:49 oleonard      There could be if you used the multi-OPAC setup... Not sure if that still works?
18:39 mtompset      well, library hours, or branch specific announcements.
18:38 mtompset      Is there such a functionality in Koha? Or is this a patch idea waiting to happen?
18:37 mtompset      Patrons are assigned a branch. It would be nice to know the library hours once you log in.
18:35 jcamins       I would. Unless you want to put them in the header.
18:35 mtompset      opaccredits?
18:34 jcamins       Footer?
18:34 mtompset      Where would you put library hours?
18:34 mtompset      Okay... but OPACNav is still visible on the opac-user.pl page.
18:33 oleonard      Yes, because news is displayed on the OPAC home page
18:32 mtompset      If you click the koha logo, then you see the news again.
18:32 oleonard      Yes it does :)
18:31 mtompset      It goes to opac-user.pl when you log in.
18:31 mtompset      opac-user.pl
18:31 mtompset      okay... here's the problem...
18:31 tcohen        bye #koha
18:29 oleonard      Logged in, not logged in, I see news either way. prog and ccsr
18:27 mtompset      Are you sure, oleonard? Because my screen says otherwise. Let me test on my fresh git install.
18:26 oleonard-away I don't find that to be the case in the prog template mtompset
18:25 mtompset      Dumb question... looking at the OPAC interface. Why are the news items suddenly not visible if you log in?
18:24 mtompset      not a problem.
18:23 * tcohen      is just redundant
18:22 mtompset      That's what I understood jcamins to say, tcohen.
18:22 jcamins       tcohen: true.
18:22 tcohen        (if you want it quicker heh)
18:22 tcohen        mtompset: the only relevant thing tp copy is the .git dir itself
17:43 jcamins       I have cloned git.k-c.org 2-3 times in recent memory. Once to get a repo at home, a few years ago. Once to set up a development repo on my development server. And I may have cloned my release management repo, but I'm not sure of that.
17:41 jcamins       Yes.
17:41 mtompset      but that's just a config edit.
17:40 jcamins       If you use git clone /my/old/repo/.git, you'd need to change the "origin" remote to point to git.k-c.org.
17:40 jcamins       If you use cp -R or rsync, yes.
17:39 mtompset      So, you are saying a .git dir in any one of my repos could be git cloned into something that would be identical to a git clone from koha-community.org?
17:37 mtompset      Just doing it as it is a new install. Don't want anything dangling.
17:36 jcamins       Or even git clone /my/old/repo/.git /my/new/repo
17:35 jcamins       mtompset: you do know that you can clone a repo with cp -R or rsync, right?
17:35 * jcamins     has low resistance, apparently.
17:33 * jcamins     resists the urge to ask why on earth you just cloned a new repo.
17:33 hankbank      greetings earthlings
17:32 mtompset      Greetings, hankbank.
17:32 mtompset      Greetings, cait jcamins. :)
17:31 mtompset      Yep, just cloned a fresh one.
17:30 jcamins       mtompset: that's the download size? Yikes!
17:29 mtompset      698MB?! Wow. Git is growing.
17:25 oleonard      Well then that's good enough reason to push it for testing.
17:24 jcamins       oleonard: looks good to me!
17:23 * cait        waves
16:43 mtompset      oleonard++ # good explanation of code monkey. :)
16:42 * mtompset    grins, "Code monkey like!"
16:41 oleonard      mtompset: Code Monkey likes Tab because when he takes one off the shelf he has the satisfaction of converting a Tab to a space.
16:35 mtompset      Enjoy lunch! :)
16:35 nengard       hiya
16:35 mtompset      Greetings, nengard. :)
16:19 mtompset      But seriously?! Tab? :P
16:17 druthb        Ah, Johnathan Coulton.
16:16 mtompset      http://youtu.be/v4Wy7gRGgeA (Code Monkey)
16:15 druthb        speaking of evil, our Code Monkeys team is having a raucous debate in the nearby conference room.  Rowdy bunch of geeks.
16:14 druthb        :P
16:14 mtompset      An evil robot that is in love... What a strange mixture. :P
16:14 * druthb      laughs evilly.
16:14 mtompset      Or should I say SkittlesBot?
16:13 * druthb      wriggles happily.
16:13 mtompset      Greetings, druthb.
16:13 druthb        Hi, mtompset!  :)
15:57 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
15:56 oleonard      jcamins: ^^
15:56 oleonard      Suggested replacement for the author/subject pop-up menus in the new Bootstrap OPAC: http://screencast.com/t/Gviv7lxr
15:54 tcohen        understood
15:54 tcohen        hi oleonard
15:48 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10649 - Upgrade DataTables and move scripts out of theme directory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e86a9516177045a77285c8baf8eb0b991b8636a7>
15:38 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10737: (follow-up) make the new 'Closed' column sortable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba39ef9d6703a3af60cc61ec88033d571ed6d1c6> / Bug 10737: Add "Add to basket" link on vendor search results page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=baab2a2cb4b37dbda8a813e3629b4733955fd3b7>
15:28 huginn`       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10539: Followup for removing KohaTest unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5c364e172f957826cccac4f61160e8ce247aefa> / Bug 10539: Remove unused unit tests in lib/KohaTest <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e3e4a7f9a1decf99025d83e4146157da3b8aeb5>
15:25 reiveune      bye
15:16 cait          druthb!
15:16 wahanui       cait! are you well? still home?
15:16 druthb        cait!
15:16 cait          hi oleonard :)
15:15 oleonard      Hi cait
15:03 * oleonard    remembers that time... We all saved seneca from being crushed by the Daily Planet planet after it toppled from atop the Daily Planet building.
14:58 huginn`       druthb: Quote #151: "<seneca> you guys are my heroes" (added by wizzyrea at 07:41 PM, August 31, 2011)
14:58 druthb        @quote random
13:50 oleonard      I must have done something wrong before. It worked this time. Thanks jcamins
13:37 oleonard      Hm... that wasn't working for me when I tested it. I'll have to try it again.
13:34 jcamins       Ignore incoming record.
13:33 oleonard      "Replace existing record with incoming record,"  "Add incoming record," or "Ignore incoming record (its items may still be processed)"
13:30 jcamins       Yes. Choose to keep existing records and add items.
13:29 oleonard      When importing MARC records, can you match on ISBN but only add items? That is, don't replace the existing MARC record?
13:16 oleonard      tcohen: You asked if I was going to substitute alerts for bootstrap modals, and the answer is that I don't have a plan to do so. I think it would not necessarily be an easy switch, depending on the situation.
12:58 druthb        o/
12:32 tcohen        hi drojf
12:32 drojf         hi tcohen
12:32 tcohen        morning #koha
12:30 drojf         hi oleonard
12:28 drojf         hm. resending your initial question an hour after my reply to the first mail is not really a motivation to answer again.
12:27 oleonard      Hi #koha
09:57 * magnuse     is thrilled to see the beginnings of https://github.com/nichtich/Catmandu-RDF
09:00 magnuse       hm, there are way too many people in that picture i have not met - i *need* to go to reno... ;-)
08:57 Viktor        But at least I recognize a whole bunch of nice people from the Edinburgh conference :)
08:55 Viktor        But a quick google of images for "Viktor Sarge" should give a few correct results even if it's hard to tell when different people are served diferent results based on prior searches..
08:54 magnuse       Viktor: ahh
08:54 magnuse       kohacon12attendees is http://koha-community.org/kohacon12-attendees/
08:54 Viktor        I had to run for the bus so I missed the picture.
08:53 wahanui       hmmm... kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June
08:53 magnuse       kohacon12
08:53 magnuse       where's that group picture again?
08:53 Viktor        :)
08:51 rangi         ahh
08:50 drojf         no, i did not. or at least i did not know who he is. i only heard later that he has been there
08:49 rangi         drojf: you met Viktor in edinburgh im pretty sure?
08:47 drojf         i know rangi is nice, so i can trust him about you two ;)
08:47 magnuse       drojf: :-)
08:46 magnuse       and Viktor++ for tirelessly working to bring koha to swedish libraries
08:46 drojf         koha web of niceness trust
08:46 rangi         ive met both of you in person, so i can vouch that it is true
08:45 Viktor        And magnuse++ for two days of great workshoping
08:44 Viktor        :)
08:44 magnuse       yay! and i can confirm exactly the same thing about Viktor, if there was any doubt ;-)
08:43 Viktor        I can now confirm that magnuse is just as nice to meet in person as one might suspect :)
08:37 wahanui       Can we get some hard data on that?
08:37 magnuse       looks like it
08:34 rangi         handy
08:34 magnuse       ah yes https://gitorious.org/koha-marc2rdf/koha-marc2rdf/source/7c863b4ef1289b987f1303a7996eef95512fed4a:t/Koha_MARC2RDF.t
08:33 rangi         yep i am
08:32 magnuse       rangi: cool
08:32 magnuse       it's ok wahanui
08:32 rangi         yeah i think im using it
08:32 wahanui       magnuse: sorry...
08:32 magnuse       well, i wasn't talking to you, wahanui
08:32 wahanui       I haven't seen 'https://metacpan.org/module/Test::RDF', magnuse
08:32 magnuse       rangi: seen https://metacpan.org/module/Test::RDF ?
08:30 mtj           the slid.es site is pretty cool
08:30 drojf         ho magnuse and rangi
08:29 mtj           hey rangi, lookin' good!
08:29 magnuse       rangi++
08:28 rangi         hi drojf
08:28 rangi         http://catalyst.net.nz/Library_Technology_Workshop
08:28 magnuse       moin drojf
08:28 drojf         good morning #koha
08:28 rangi         at
08:28 rangi         brief lightning talk tomorrow
08:27 magnuse       rangi: is that a talk you are giving, or are you just practising?
08:27 magnuse       yay!!
08:25 rangi         done with https://github.com/hakimel/reveal.js
08:22 rangi         go right one slide
08:22 rangi         magnuse: http://slid.es/ranginui/oyster
08:21 magnuse       :-)
08:21 magnuse       morning
08:17 rangi         evening
07:21 samueld       hi everybody
07:07 dcook         Au revoir and good night :)
07:07 dcook         Oh snap. Time to hurry home. No staying late today.
06:56 dcook         bonjour reiveune :)
06:54 reiveune      salut magnuse rangi dcook
06:52 magnuse       bonjour reiveune
06:51 reiveune      hello
06:49 * magnuse     waves to dcook, specifically
06:48 * dcook       waves to magnuse
06:47 magnuse       qateam++
06:46 * magnuse     waves
06:25 dcook         Sweet match_check uses match_points. Less searching for me..
06:22 dcook         works even
06:22 * dcook       wonders if it actually wroks
06:22 dcook         Neat
06:22 dcook         So 999$c against 001 or 995$c or something
06:22 dcook         But Match Check can be used to compare two different field/subfield pairs against each other
06:22 dcook         Match Point compares two fields with identical fields/subfields
06:21 dcook         Wait, yes I do
06:21 dcook         Wait, no I don't
06:21 dcook         I finally understand "match_check" vs "match_point"
06:20 dcook         Ahhhhhh
06:13 mtompset      Have a great day, #koha.
05:48 dcook         Maybe swimming from Gibraltar to Morocco is more intimidating than I thought...
05:46 dcook         About 3.6 km/hr
05:45 dcook         9.14 hours
05:45 dcook         twitter++
05:43 dcook         http://www.dover.uk.com/channelswimming/swims/ isn't too encouraging
05:41 * dcook       suddenly remembers rangi mentioning Casey...Sea Farer II...English channel swimming
05:41 dcook         om nom nom
05:39 dcook         Lunch perhaps...
05:39 * dcook       tries to remember what he was originally doing before he found a somewhat unrelated bug
05:36 dcook         \o/
05:33 cait          i hope it will be :)
05:26 dcook         Fun fun
05:23 cait          doing training today
05:23 dcook         Lippstadt?
05:22 huginn`       cait: The current temperature in Geseke, Germany is 16.1°C (7:22 AM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
05:22 cait          @wunder Lippstadt
05:22 dcook         Oh well. Long (hopefully comprehensive) messages are what I do..
05:22 dcook         Sometimes, I want to write commit messages that say "take my word for it" :p
05:20 mtompset      Actually, that's ... exactly.
05:19 dcook         Actually, that's not too bad
05:19 huginn`       dcook: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.1°C (7:15 AM CEST on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
05:19 dcook         @wunder konstanz
05:19 dcook         Nah, crazy early might be...
05:19 mtompset      Yes, it's crazy early.
05:19 huginn`       dcook: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is 16.0°C (1:00 AM EDT on September 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
05:19 dcook         @wunder toronto, canada
05:19 mtompset      Greetings, cait dcook wizzyrea.
05:19 dcook         I should eat lunch earlier :P
05:18 mtompset      I really need to stop lurking. ;)
05:09 cait          morning dcook
05:06 dcook         morning cait
05:06 cait          good morning #koha
04:38 dcook         it might make sense to compare only a date..
04:38 dcook         On the other hand...if you're only passed a date...
04:19 dcook         But changing that now would be problematic for anyone using it currently...
04:19 dcook         We're not really using UTC datestamps in the OAI-PMH server...
04:15 dcook         Blearghh
04:11 dcook         Probably the latter...
04:11 dcook         Or...remove the date() function and remove the T and Z characters from the "from" argument...
04:10 dcook         Better to encase both timestamp and "from" argument in date() functions
04:06 * dcook       will babble in channel then :p
02:55 pianohacker   thanks dcook
02:55 dcook         Looking forward to your continued efforts :)
02:55 dcook         night pianohacker
02:55 pianohacker   Good night all :)
02:55 wizzyrea      yea probably best.
02:55 pianohacker   I'm out of here
02:54 pianohacker   Okay, now that I've beat my head against MARC all day
02:53 dcook         Yeah, what he said :p
02:53 dcook         MARC did add fields to accomodate RDA though
02:53 jcamins       You don't actually need an RDA framework. Just a framework that isn't out of date.
02:53 dcook         Like I was saying, RDA isn't MARC
02:53 dcook         wizzyrea: Sort of
02:52 wahanui       i think bgkriegel is on a signoff spree
02:52 jcamins       bgkriegel.
02:52 dcook         Either mtj or bgkriegel brought it up to the Update 16 from April 2013, I believe
02:52 jcamins       It's a year out of date.
02:52 wizzyrea      yea, I mean, when you install koha, there is no RDA framework.
02:52 jcamins       I forgot about pushing it.
02:52 jcamins       dcook: Oh, yeah. That's right.
02:52 dcook         I suppose it depends on how we define ship
02:51 dcook         3.14 should have up-to-date MARC frameworks by default
02:51 wizzyrea      as evidenced by people still needing to get it from the wiki.
02:51 dcook         jcamins: Not the newest ones
02:51 wizzyrea      there's no RDA framework in koha by default.
02:51 dcook         RDA itself is not MARC
02:51 jcamins       Yeah, but our default frameworks are so out-of-date I'm not sure it matters.
02:51 wizzyrea      no we're not?
02:51 dcook         Ah, but we are shipping a default RDA framework
02:50 wizzyrea      considering we don't want to ship a default RDA framework, I guess not.
02:50 dcook         Probably wouldn't hurt
02:50 wizzyrea      should we ship that by default?
02:50 wizzyrea      yes I know.
02:50 jcamins       Define an RDACONTENT authorized value category. Link to 336$b. Done.
02:49 jcamins       We already have complete support for 336.
02:49 wizzyrea      poop with annotations.
02:49 wizzyrea      whatever, I think we can agree that "tactile notated movement" sounds like a veiled description for poop.
02:49 dcook         ^^
02:48 jcamins       Variable fields with a defined set of values are not.
02:48 jcamins       Fixed fields are a problem for a cataloging editor.
02:48 jcamins       I don't think so.
02:47 wizzyrea      so I think we were just coming up against the same words with different interpretations.
02:47 wizzyrea      but it's a field with decently fixed values, if you're doing it properly.
02:47 wizzyrea      and you're right, it's not a fixed field.
02:46 wizzyrea      yes it seems to me that having that as a human enterable value is counter to the purpose of the field.
02:45 jcamins       I don't see why you wouldn't just make it an authorized value.
02:41 pianohacker   this was the main thing that looked like it would add complication: http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/rdacontent.html
02:40 * dcook       is wondering why he didn't use "BatchStageMarcRecords" in this harvesting script...
02:39 dcook         ^^
02:39 jcamins       There are no new fixed fields.
02:37 * wizzyrea    might be wrong on the number
02:37 wizzyrea      probably the 3xx ones? the medium/carrier/otheroneican'tremember
02:37 dcook         What do you refer to when you say "new coded field"?
02:36 dcook         As far as I can tell, there have just been modifications to existing fields and added fields
02:36 wizzyrea      if people would tell us what to do with the newly coded fields, we would do that.
02:36 dcook         pianohhacker: That seems odd
02:36 wizzyrea      and probably this, for good measure http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/58777830792/youre-totally-looking-forward-to-implementing-a
02:36 pianohacker   jcamins: True, though there would likely need to be some additions and work to support the new coded fields, from what I can tell
02:35 wizzyrea      also this
02:35 wizzyrea      http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/56322456691/all-flavours-of-the-marc-standard
02:35 jcamins       pianohacker: RDA is supported by virtue of RDA being just MARC.
02:34 pianohacker   and that frightens me
02:34 pianohacker   I know someone will probably want to extend this editor to support RDA
02:34 pianohacker   yes...
02:34 wizzyrea      http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/56321310727/we-need-more-marc < pianohacker
02:30 pianohacker   but thanks, eythian :)
02:30 pianohacker   [off] [on] what now, logbot?!
02:30 pianohacker   dammit
02:30 eythian       http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2013-09-05#i_1378451
02:29 * eythian     notes that that is not how [off] works.
02:28 pianohacker   jcamins: [off] ahahahahaha, well, only as many as were necessary at the time, I'm sure
02:27 jcamins       [off] pianohacker: just how many catalogers do you think I've buried?!?
02:26 pianohacker   jcamins: but then I preach to the choir ;)
02:26 jcamins       pianohacker: yeah, it's a problem.
02:21 pianohacker   it would be much harder to hide that many bodies
02:21 pianohacker   and as SATISFYING as that would be
02:20 pianohacker   but then we'd just go on to shooting everyone responsible for MARC
02:20 pianohacker   that person should be shot. repeatedly.
02:20 pianohacker   Whoever thought it would be a good idea to mix encoding and semantic information in the leader, make the 008 have 7 different layouts depending on a completely different field...
02:19 dcook         pianohacker++
02:19 pianohacker   Thanks
02:19 pianohacker   I think so. Wanted to confirm before I did the work to make that happen, though :)
02:18 jcamins       Wasn't that just on the list?
02:18 jcamins       Yes.
02:18 pianohacker   Is the configuration of the fields in the 008 field determined by the material type field in the leader?
02:18 pianohacker   okay, I should probably knock off for the day, but I need to know
02:03 dcook         mmm cheese
02:00 * wizzyrea    was exposed to the cheese at a relatively early age, so is less bothered by it
02:00 dcook         hehe
02:00 wizzyrea      but starting with 9th doctor will get you into it... then you can go back and appreciate the cheesiness.
01:59 jcamins       Yeah.
01:59 wizzyrea      starting at series 1 episode 1 might be a bit extreme for the modern viewer.
01:58 jcamins       We decided it's too cheesy.
01:58 jcamins       The next episode is the Warriors of DEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTHHHHHHHHH.
01:55 wizzyrea      ^ so much this
01:54 gmcharlt      who else could manage to take out a Dalek with a baseball bat? :)
01:54 wizzyrea      ace was cool.
01:53 mtompset      Ace... now there's a companion... she liked to blow things up.
01:53 eythian       wizzyrea: the 8th one doesn't count I think
01:53 mtompset      I didn't like Mel.
01:53 mtompset      Mel?
01:52 jcamins       Ian is currently dressed up as a the Ja'fa from Stargate.
01:51 mtompset      I had a serious crush on her when I was a teenager.
01:51 mtompset      peri?!
01:51 wizzyrea      don't get me started on the 8th doctor.
01:51 wizzyrea      it's all pretty cheesy up until 2005 ;)
01:50 wizzyrea      Mel I think
01:50 wizzyrea      I almost stopped watching it.
01:49 wizzyrea      omg, I was watching some 7th doctor... his first companion was the shriekiest thing I'd ever heard.
01:49 jcamins       Yep. First Doctor.
01:48 mtompset      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2x0/features/doctors (which one, jcamins?)
01:47 mtompset      who was two again?
01:47 mtompset      jon pertwee was three...
01:47 jcamins       Maybe.
01:47 mtompset      old guy, black and white, william hartnell?
01:47 eythian       Old crotchety man? That'd be Hartnell.
01:46 jcamins       The first, I think.
01:46 eythian       jcamins: it's quite funny how the moment anything happens, the female characters immediately go into hysterics.
01:46 mtompset      which Doctor?
01:42 dcook         I've never watched it myself, but I've heard of this cheesy reputation, yep.
01:42 pianohacker   yup
01:41 jcamins       Wow. The early Doctor Who is extraordinarily cheesy, isn't it?
01:35 mtompset      Well, off to fortify myself with caffeine and then actually create a test plan for this.
01:33 jcamins       Ah.
01:32 mtompset      The word plugins.
01:32 jcamins       Why would you have thought that they were required?
01:32 mtompset      Yep. No need for the plugins settings. Interesting.
00:44 tcohen        bye #koha
00:14 mtompset      Greetings, dcook.
00:13 mtompset      ^ll^m^
00:13 mtompset      I'll going to reboot and check to make sure.
00:13 mtompset      jcamins: It seems you were right. No need for the plug in settings.
00:13 wahanui       rumour has it mtompset is disliking finding bugs while testing
00:13 dcook         hey mtompset
00:12 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
00:11 dcook         Although I do have that one VM...perhaps I'll focus on the OAI-PMH harvester for now
00:11 dcook         Perhaps a bit outside my reach for the moment then :p
00:10 dcook         Ah, I think I follow you now
00:10 pianohacker   mucking with pazpar2 is required to get the search working, but everything else should work
00:09 pianohacker   dcook: Yup
00:09 dcook         I suppose a person could clone your git and run it through the Koha dev install?
00:08 wahanui       i heard although was mine 2.3.2 or 2.3.3
00:08 dcook         Although...
00:08 dcook         Ah, I'm not much of a coding whiz myself. I've just worked in libraries for a while and get feedback here and there from clients using Koha.
00:06 pianohacker   modifications to the pazpar2 setup are needed to get it working, but it is doable :)
00:05 pianohacker   yup :) Code is at https://github.com/pianohacker/koha/tree/pci if you want to take a look
00:04 dcook         The more eyes the better, me thinks
00:04 dcook         I hope that you manage to get some clients to take a look as well
00:04 dcook         We can hope so :)