Time  Nick     Message
01:01 jcamins  @later tell drojf I recommend against tapioca starch for baking cookies.
01:01 huginn`  jcamins: The operation succeeded.
02:03 jcamins  tapioca_starch--
06:29 cait     goodmorning
08:26 drojf    good morning #koha
08:27 * drojf  likes getting baking recommendations via @later
08:27 drojf    jcamins++
08:27 drojf    ;)
08:32 drojf    @later tell mtompset according to http://meetings.koha-community.org/2012/koha.2012-10-10-10.01.html it was the right vimal
08:32 huginn`  drojf: The operation succeeded.
08:57 cait     :)
08:58 cait     morning jcamins
09:05 drojf    morning cait
09:20 drojf    i could either read something for my thesis, or try to find out if there is javascript text-to-speech that i could combine with javascript pdf-reader to listen to it on my phone. guess what sounds more attractive.
09:25 drojf    @wunder berlin, germany
09:25 huginn`  drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 21.4°C (11:13 AM CEST on August 31, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
09:54 cait     drojf: you will learn something new either way :)
10:54 cait     bye all, see you sunday
11:53 magnuse  @wunder boo
11:53 huginn`  magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 31, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
11:53 magnuse  yay
11:54 magnuse  @wunder marseille
11:54 huginn`  magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 26.0°C (1:30 PM CEST on August 31, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
12:23 drojf    magnuse: looks like you are going to have some extra light :) http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast/Europe
12:24 magnuse  drojf: yay!
12:25 magnuse  lots of clouds coming in now, though...
12:26 drojf    oh, unfair
12:26 magnuse  yeah :-)
12:26 magnuse  i looked for the aurora last night, when it was clear, but didn't see any then
12:27 drojf    that's how i remember the aurora in bodø :P
12:27 drojf    always hiding
12:29 magnuse  hehe
12:29 magnuse  were you here in winter?
12:31 drojf    beginning of march
12:32 drojf    lots of snow, at least on some days
12:32 magnuse  ah, should have been dark enough then
12:34 drojf    yes but it did not like us. it only showed up to a few people. there was a swedish guy good at finding the right spot, i think he saw it several times
12:45 magnuse  hehe, yeah it is an unpredictable phenomenon .-)
12:54 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
12:54 magnuse  hiya mtompset
12:55 mtompset Greetings, magnuse. :)
13:23 mtompset Greetings, papa.
13:45 tcohen   morning
13:53 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
13:53 tcohen   hi mtompset
13:54 mtompset I was wondering in your opinion, once they have a bare koha running (both opac and staff client functional, but no data, no libraries set up, no patrons set up, default system preferences), do the install instructions need to go further, or would a link to some wiki pages be sufficient?
13:56 mtompset Feel free to pipe up opinions, anyone. :)
13:57 jcamins  Installation instructions should be limited to how to install Koha.
13:57 jcamins  drojf: I was really appalled by the tapioca strach.
13:58 drojf    jcamins: why?
13:59 jcamins  It gave my baked goods a weird consistency and flavor.
14:01 drojf    i accidentally bought the wrong rice paper a while ago. i wanted to do summer rolls and ended ub with rice paper for frying. it had tapioka starch in it and it smelled very unattractive
14:01 jcamins  I initially blamed the chickpea flour, so I added more tapioca starch to my second batch of cookies, and they were appalling.
14:02 drojf    oh no
14:03 jcamins  I should have taken photos for hilarity's sake.
14:03 drojf    heh
14:20 mtompset So, upgrading, removal instructions not in the install instructions either?
14:20 jcamins  Upgrading and removal make sense.
15:28 mtompset license text?
15:28 wahanui  i guess license text is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Licence
15:29 druthb   mtompset!  drojf!  :D
15:29 druthb   @later tell cait traveled safe and sound, and things are going just fine in Denison.  More news later.
15:29 huginn`  druthb: The operation succeeded.
15:29 mtompset druthb: I see you "liked" the link I sent you. ;)
15:35 jcamins  [off] Apparently the Daily News has decided that people are more likely to read fake news than real news. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/lhota-wouldn-stopped-subway-kittens-article-1.1442178
15:44 drojf    [off] jcamins: what do you mean, fake news? kitties!
15:56 jcamins  [off] drojf: "longshot candidate George McDonald said through a spokesman that he would have to consult with Gus the polar bear first. Alas, the beloved longtime Central Park Zoo denizen died at age 27 after being euthanized Tuesday."
15:57 jcamins  [off] “I love animals,” he said. (Note he even includes “cats” in his name.)
15:57 jcamins  [off] "With Celeste Katz"
15:59 drojf    [off] hahaha i did not see celeste katz. that's brilliant :D
16:00 drojf    [off] i bet myshkin loves to read that stuff. also RELATED: MIRACLE KITTEN SURVIVES 1,000-MILE TRIP TRAPPED IN CAR’S ENGINE COMPARTMENT
16:01 jcamins  [off] The kittens were actually on the tracks, but I still think the article itself was party fake.
16:54 mtompset Is there a good documentation link for bulkmarcimport.pl?
17:01 mtompset @later tell tcohen I see you have a Spanish version of the Ubuntu packages installation. Perhaps you'd want to look at the revised version on the wiki now. I shortened it. The long version is still there with _long added at the end.
17:01 huginn`  mtompset: The operation succeeded.
17:02 jcamins  mtompset: there is not, and you should not be using it anyway.
17:03 mtompset So, axe it from the instructions?
17:03 jcamins  Yes.
17:03 mtompset What about a good documentation reindexing link?
17:03 jcamins  faq?
17:03 wahanui  faq is found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/
17:14 mtompset Should making koha a public z39.50 being in the base install instructions?
17:47 jcamins  I have no opinion.
17:53 jcamins  But I do need chocolate sauce.
17:53 jcamins  And a plan for these lentil cakes.
17:56 jcamins  There's quinoa.
17:56 jcamins  Chia, I think.
18:12 jcamins  I have a problem.
18:12 jcamins  I have gf-free cocoa powder, and I have chocolate which does not include any gluten ingredients.
18:13 jcamins  I need to make chocolate cream sauce, and all the recipes call for chocolate rather than cocoa powder.
18:17 jcamins  drojf: if you have chocolate that includes no ingredients with gluten but isn't certified gluten free, will you eat it?
18:20 jcamins  Hmph. No drojf.
18:28 drojf    jcamins: chocolate often contains gluten/wheat due to it being used for other stuff in the factory. it has to be declared here, like
18:28 drojf    "may contain traces of gluten or wheat"
18:29 drojf    i tend to eat that
18:30 drojf    i buy one without it if available though
18:32 drojf    i am not sure what "traces of" means in legal terms, as "gluten free" already means less than a certain amount
18:32 jcamins  drojf: yeah, since you weren't here, I decided to use cocoa powder.
18:33 jcamins  So right now I have the half-and-half heating on the stove.
18:34 drojf    probably the best choice if you are not sure
18:34 drojf    if there are people involved that have crazy reactions to gluten traces may be too much
18:35 jcamins  Yeah, I'm not sure and he has a really long trip.
18:52 jcamins  The chocolate sauce needs something.
18:54 drojf    chili
18:56 jcamins  I considered that.
18:56 jcamins  But I've added chili to just about everything.
19:04 drojf    heh
19:04 drojf    so what did you use?
19:05 jcamins  Sherry.
19:46 druthb   o/
20:06 jcamins  Butter or bacon grease dotted on the top of my paella?
20:37 mtompset Butter?
20:37 wahanui  i guess Butter is butter yo shit
20:38 mtompset Who programmed that?!
20:38 mtompset wahanui: forget butter
20:38 wahanui  mtompset: I forgot butter
20:40 mtompset chocolate?
20:40 wahanui  reiveune ate them all
20:40 mtompset chili?
20:40 mtompset sherry?
20:40 mtompset bacon?
20:40 wahanui  bacon is good, bacon is nice
20:42 jcamins  mtompset: you've said both. Which one?
20:42 mtompset Butter is my guess. I really don't know.
20:43 mtompset The other stuff was just seeing what people may have programmed wahanui with.
20:44 jcamins  It's cooking. There's no wrong answer.
20:44 mtompset Yes, but when it comes to taste, there is.
20:44 mtompset I looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paella
20:45 mtompset and based on the variety of ingredients listed in the basic ingredients... I'd go with butter.
20:45 jcamins  Oh, my paella doesn't look very like what wikipedia calls for.
20:46 mtompset Are you saying it has different ingredients?
20:46 jcamins  Well... I used rice. :)
20:47 mtompset Yes, but what else? Because bacon grease works with rice too.
20:47 jcamins  Veggies.
20:47 jcamins  Whatever I found.
20:47 jcamins  Lots of tomatoes.
20:47 mtompset butter.
20:47 jcamins  I actually don't quite remember what else.
20:47 jcamins  Cashews.
20:47 wahanui  cashews are goddamn fantastic
20:47 jcamins  Thanks.
20:48 mtompset see... someone has programmed wahanui with opinions on several food things.
20:48 mtompset I think butter goes better with tomatoes than bacon grease.
20:49 mtompset Though, I think some would argue that bacon grease goes with everything. ;)
20:50 jcamins  Butter it is.
20:50 jcamins  Thanks.
20:50 mtompset Do we need pre-3.4 instructions in the installation instructions for 3.14?
20:51 mtompset (the upgrade tweak)
20:52 jcamins  Sadly yes.
22:32 tcohen   mtompset: you might add an UPGRADE file
22:34 tcohen   mtompset: the spanish wiki is not mine :-D
22:34 tcohen   @query packages
22:34 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2509 enhancement, P3, ---, chris, NEW , create Debian package
22:34 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6172 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Zebra not indexed Unimarc-records
22:34 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7424 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should have a designated place for custom CSS
22:34 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7764 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , INSTALL.ubuntu needs to be updated
22:34 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8807 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , add Carton support to Koha
22:35 tcohen   @query tomascohen
22:36 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup
22:36 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add --sip and --nosip switches to koha-list
22:36 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7785 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , MySQL-specific syntax in C4::Members columns()
22:36 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib
22:36 huginn`  tcohen: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated.
23:14 mtompset tcohen: So who is Davinxi?