Time Nick Message 23:59 dcook I was starting to think that we had an intruder masquerading as mtompset 23:59 mtompset Sorry, a typographical error. :P 23:59 dcook That's better :p 23:59 mtompset litre. 23:58 dcook liter? 23:58 * mtompset feels more awake after his liter of cola. 23:58 dcook hey ya mtompset 23:58 mtompset Greetings, dcook tcohen rangi wizzyrea. :) 23:47 rambutan foraging time 23:46 rambutan hi tcohen 23:46 rangi ahh 23:46 dcook listserv stuff :P 23:46 wahanui hmmm... now is good time with holidays coming up 23:46 rangi what now? 23:45 dcook rangi++ 23:30 wizzyrea ew 23:30 dcook Mmm energy bill over double the last one... 23:28 dcook Gotta love having an "actual meter reading" just when the energy rates go up... 23:19 tcohen hi dcook rambutan 23:15 rambutan <actually evening> 23:14 rambutan morning dcook 23:05 dcook morning #koha 22:07 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 21:02 cait hm yes? 21:00 tcohen so i get home, and find out i have homework? 20:59 tcohen hi :) 20:59 cait :) 20:59 cait hi tcohen 20:53 * cait waves at wizzyrea 20:49 * wizzyrea waves 19:52 cait :) 19:52 eythian Heh I wasn't in Konstanz to be taking photos :) 19:51 cait eythian: but maybe i am just the worst guide ever? :) 19:51 cait eythian: i have to admit your konstanz photos are not as impressive as the italian ones 19:38 cait ok, bbiab 19:38 cait yeah, time flies - this year seems especially crazy 19:35 eythian Yeah, it is quite soon. 19:34 cait oh wow soon 19:34 cait and if I want to see it? :) 19:33 eythian Friday 19:33 eythian There's also one of me, but I don't have to share that. 19:33 cait when are you flying back? 19:33 eythian It was rather. 19:33 cait :) 19:33 cait eythian: it was too warm that day. 19:32 eythian Heh oops 19:32 cait eythian: now you scared kyle away 19:31 cait uhoh 19:31 * cait clicks 19:30 eythian cait: http://ubuntuone.com/2PSXZXEit7NTpzFDo6CbsB 19:25 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10543 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , false mandatory warning in additem 19:25 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10543 - add mandatory subfield check to addorderiso2709.pl 19:25 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10543 - Unify item mandatory subfields check 19:25 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10543: fix false warnings from checks of mandatory item fields 19:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #86: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/86/ 19:20 cait hm signed off down to 81... good! 19:20 cait bye magnuse :) 19:19 magnuse have fun, #koha! 19:14 rambutan miss the SAT riverwalk 19:13 druthb He's out having fun in San Antonio, I imagine. 19:12 oleonard gmcharlt around to give an opinion? 19:09 jcamins The RM could even generate it after every patch. 19:08 jcamins oleonard: that'd be my preference. Make it a toggle in koha-conf.xml or the like. 19:08 cait generate only for releases? 19:08 cait jcamins: ah 19:08 oleonard jcamins: Do in-browser less processing? 19:07 jcamins I'd favor just not having developers use the minified CSS. 19:07 cait so you need to be able to do it for testing, but commit only the 'base' files? 19:07 jcamins Minified *CSS* obviously. 19:07 cait yeah that was my thought 19:07 jcamins With minified JS, every single CSS change will involve an unresolvable conflict. 19:06 jcamins oleonard: I don't see a lot of choices. 19:06 oleonard If the RM is committing the generated files doesn't that mean the developer must manually exclude them from commits? 19:05 jcamins Or something like that. 19:04 jcamins Maybe `grunt build` 19:04 jcamins Merge conflicts will be no harder than currently, because the RM will commit the generated files, and it'll involve running `grunt` 19:04 cait just wondering :) 19:04 cait and how hard will it be to fix merge conflicts? 19:03 cait how complicated is it? 19:03 oleonard So if I've got this working correctly and others agree it's a good idea that will mean a new procedure for contributors who want to add or modify CSS and JS 19:01 jcamins Koha qualifies as an "application." 19:01 jcamins oleonard: you should. 19:01 oleonard I'm hearing conflicting advice about whether I should commit the node module dependencies along with everything else 19:01 magnuse oleonard++ 19:00 jcamins Nice! 19:00 oleonard So far I have it compiling LESS into CSS, concatenating some JS, and minifying some JS 19:00 oleonard Today I've been working on integrating it with the new Bootstrap theme 18:59 jcamins oleonard: I have not, though it looks very nice. 18:59 oleonard jcamins: Have you used grunt.js before? 18:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #86 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:39 tcohen bye #koha 18:38 tcohen i'll come back to that tomorrow jcamins, will ask oleonard to make a patch for 3.12 (or write one myself) 18:33 tcohen thx 18:31 jcamins I think you may be. 18:30 tcohen am i killing a mosquito with a bazooka? 18:29 jcamins I guess. 18:29 jcamins Ehhh... 18:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use branch name rather than branch code in serials-collection.pl 18:29 tcohen bug 10609 18:28 tcohen http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=82e1a1c1b39eb497a0ecf8742b2c1b272439b2b6 18:28 tcohen some fixes that are getting pushed depend on those plugins 18:28 jcamins tcohen: why would you want to? 18:27 wahanui ask him about serials and/or acquisitions. 18:27 tcohen jcamins? 18:27 tcohen i mean, cherry-pick, then remove everything but those plugins, keeping authorship 18:26 tcohen is it ok to backport some TT plugins from a patch for master into 3.12? 18:26 magnuse gah, writing contracts is no fun! 18:26 huginn` tcohen: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 1 day, 3 hours, 35 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> mu 18:25 tcohen @seen gmcharlt 18:08 magnuse cool 17:55 eythian yeah, essentially "it depends", but probably Tuesday at the latest. 17:54 magnuse no worries, just good to know the lay of the land 17:54 magnuse hehe 17:53 eythian (so soon!?!) 17:53 eythian I might get back to it tomorrow and find time for them, but it might also not be until I'm back in NZ next week. 17:52 eythian heh, was just writing that 17:52 eythian a note for anyone concerned, there might be a delay before the packages are released. Due to a migraine (not mine), I don't have access to my laptop. 17:52 magnuse eythian: got a plan for the 3.12.4 packages? 17:49 magnuse :-) 17:49 eythian god kveld magnuse! 17:47 magnuse kia ora eythian! 17:43 drojf i want "danger" buttons all over the livedvd :P 17:42 drojf oh very nice magnuse 17:42 drojf i see our secret handshake is spreading ;) 17:42 drojf magnuse! cait! druthb! 17:41 magnuse i can haz this for KOHA? http://code.divshot.com/geo-bootstrap/ kthxbai 17:39 druthb drojf! 17:39 druthb cait! 17:38 cait drojf! druthb! magnuse! 17:37 wahanui it has been said that magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 17:37 druthb magnuse! 17:36 magnuse druthb! drojf! 17:22 cait lol 17:21 magnuse well, soon it will be teenager ;-) 17:21 magnuse reported a little more than 10 years ago, poor thing... 17:19 magnuse yeah, looks like it :-) 17:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=444 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Manual Credits does not support authorised values (Manual invoices do) 17:19 oleonard Bug 444? 17:17 magnuse wonders what the oldest, open bug is 17:17 magnuse ooh, fingers crossed then 17:17 oleonard We chipped in some money for that development so I'm hoping it will pass this time. 17:16 magnuse oleonard: golden oldies? 17:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2720 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Overdues which debar automatically should undebar automatically when returned 17:11 * oleonard crosses his fingers, again, for Bug 2720 17:01 tcohen :) 17:01 cait i have to take care of dinner first- just got home :) 17:01 tcohen np 17:01 cait hm i can't look right now - maybe later 17:00 tcohen i was passed qa but paul made some comments and went failed qa 16:59 tcohen i think gmcharlt should take a look and tell how to proceed 16:59 cait i remember i had a hard time figuring things out 16:59 cait it was my first try really 16:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7937 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Failed QA , Silence warns in OPAC error log (koha-opac-error_log) 16:59 tcohen bug 7937 16:59 cait feel free to adopt if you feel like it :) 16:59 tcohen yes 16:59 cait it probably needs to be revisited 16:59 cait that was a long time ago 16:59 cait oh 16:59 tcohen i see you worked to remove some annoying warnings on opac 16:58 cait hi tcohen :) 16:58 tcohen \o cait 16:51 druthb o/ 16:51 rambutan waves 16:51 * cait waves 16:46 gaetan_B bye !: 16:23 kf bye all 16:11 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 18.0°C (1:00 PM ART on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 16:11 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 15:36 reiveune bye 15:21 Oak hello druthb :) 15:21 druthb Hi, Oak! 15:21 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 28.9°C (10:21 AM CDT on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 15:21 druthb @wunder 77098 15:18 huginn` Oak: The current temperature in Friedrichshafen, Germany is 17.0°C (5:09 PM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 15:18 Oak @wunder konstanz 15:17 huginn` Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 30.0°C (8:00 PM PKT on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 15:17 Oak @wunder islamabad 15:17 * Oak waves 13:07 druthb :) 13:07 magnuse ooh, pizza 12:57 wahanui i think magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 12:57 druthb magnuse! 12:57 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 12:57 tcohen magnuse! 12:57 magnuse tcohen++ 12:57 wahanui tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts 12:57 magnuse tcohen! 12:57 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 12:57 magnuse druthb! 12:55 druthb o/ 12:50 huginn` slef: The operation succeeded. 12:50 slef @later tell mtompset you called? 12:43 kf good morning tcohen 12:43 tcohen morning 12:42 kf hi oleonard :) 12:23 magnuse hiya oleonard et al 12:18 oleonard Hi #koha 11:28 samueld hi everybody :-) 11:26 magnuse i'll go with that 11:24 mtj CamelCase seems to be the most common variant, imho 11:23 magnuse yeah, we do have all variations 11:18 kf i think not somany underscores 11:18 kf i think i prefer camelcase.... but we probably have all variations 11:04 magnuse do we have an official style guide for new sysprefs? NewSyspref or New_Syspref or new_syspref... 10:34 quoc_uy okie ,bb 10:34 quoc_uy yes, i see that. 10:33 kf now i am gone :) 10:33 kf so everyone gets a chance to attend at a good time 10:32 kf we shift each meeting by 8 hours 10:32 kf yeah, timezones make it difficult sometimes 10:31 quoc_uy i missed 2 general meeting because of time 10:30 quoc_uy okie 10:30 kf lunch time here - bbiab 10:25 quoc_uy :) 10:25 quoc_uy haha, just miss click 10:25 kf and he is probably asleep so that might be not so polite :) 10:25 kf hi quoc_uy - why the fish? 10:24 * quoc_uy slaps jcamins around a bit with a large fishbot 10:23 quoc_uy Hi everyone, long time no see 10:09 huginn` kf: slef was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <slef> kf speed? 10:09 kf @seen slef 09:38 dcook All right. i should get moving. See you fine folks tomorrow :) 09:37 dcook Increasingly famous, I suppose 09:37 dcook [off] activist wife ;) 09:36 kf famous wife? :) 09:30 dcook Not that I own a TV, but the channel has a free online stream ^_^ 09:29 dcook Wifey going to be on the TV in an hour... 09:29 dcook Hmm, I should get moving too 09:25 dcook ta drojf 09:24 drojf i should better go and study before the day is over again. see you later, #koha 09:21 dcook lol 09:20 * drojf thinks about adding all signoffs he did to his CV 09:17 tweetbot [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "Helping, for what motivation? http://t.co/f3rppgAJkn "Just do what you think would be good for the community" #KohaILS" 09:17 magnuse ooh, good plan! 09:15 drojf yesterday i felt like "yay, all the energy, let's do things". today i'd like to work from my bed. for five minutes, and then sleep ;) 09:15 tweetbot OK, now watching for 'kohails' 09:15 mtj !twadd kohails 09:14 huginn` kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 09:14 kf @wunder Konstanz 09:14 kf pretty cool 09:14 kf same here 09:14 drojf *today 09:14 drojf funny how that reads exactly like yesterday. and yesterday was a nice summer day, toda it's autumn 09:13 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 18.8°C (11:13 AM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 09:13 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 09:13 kf rangi++ 09:06 dcook I think I might've forgotten to do it earlier.. 09:06 dcook What the hell...peer pressure is fun 09:06 magnuse dcook: hehe 09:06 dcook rangi++ 09:06 dcook Mmm, very true 09:06 magnuse yeah rangi++ 09:05 dcook My wife was talking with a friend in Sweden last night, and the timezones made sense due to all the conversations with you, magnuse ;) 09:05 drojf rangi++ 09:05 dcook Right.. 09:05 dcook Except that it's only morning there :p 09:05 dcook mysqlf...the moment when you've been working on databases too long 09:05 magnuse nope, q was the typo :-) 09:05 dcook I figured the f was a typo...lol 09:04 drojf mysqlf. lol 09:04 huginn` magnuse: Karma for "mysqlf" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1. 09:04 magnuse @karma mysqlf 09:04 magnuse myself-- for not documenting things i figure out 09:04 magnuse mysqlf?!? whut? i must be going mad 09:04 dcook Intriguing! 09:03 dcook drojf: I was just thinking that my nonchalance must've carried through in my speech.. 09:03 magnuse mysqlf-- for not documenting things i figure out 09:03 dcook Personal ones though! So...that's a thing 09:03 dcook Which always take more time than they should 09:03 dcook I was catching up on some emails though 09:03 dcook kf: I probably shouldn't be here 09:03 dcook magnuse: :P 09:03 * magnuse thinks dcook should be here for another 5 hours or so 09:00 drojf yeah, isn't that a strange time for you? 09:00 drojf "(09:58:18) dac [~dcook@0001b431.user.oftc.net] hat den Raum betreten." kind of gives it away 09:00 kf dcook: but should you be here? :) 09:00 * kf had a feeling... 08:59 drojf and i wondered who that dac person is that i have never seen before but that feels very at home here ;) 08:58 dcook There we go 08:57 * dac wonders when that happened.. 08:57 dac Whoa, I am dac... 08:56 kf dac: yeah.... something like that 08:55 dac Mmm, I've had some weirdness happen through multiple manipulations of MARC data from one format to another.. 08:54 drojf isn't the livedvd on sourcefourge? that will add extra fun 08:54 kf still trying to figure out in which step it got confused 08:54 drojf http://www.gluster.org/2013/08/how-far-the-once-mighty-sourceforge-has-fallen/ 08:54 kf itdid cause a problem for the barcoes - missing part of it 08:53 dac If it causes problems in raw MARC, gmcharlt might have some ideas 08:53 dac Maybe in raw MARC.. 08:53 dac It should be irrelevant in MARCXML 08:52 dac Does it actually cause a problem? 08:51 dac Wait a minute.. 08:51 dac Hmm 08:51 dac one dvd on amazon.com 08:50 dac I could see that coming up in a book title 08:50 dac What about $ signs in titles? 08:49 drojf make them stop? :P 08:49 dac I'm not really sure :( 08:48 dac Ew.. 08:48 kf some library here using it in barcodes. 08:47 dac I don't think I've had that come up, but I could see how it would... 08:47 dac Hmm 08:46 kf hm, does someone know how to deal with $ in fields in marc21? 08:40 dac Love it 08:40 dac "... but we'll probably need to just all get together in one room with Koha and a keg in order to make a decision and get started." 08:40 dac Favourite quote from a former classmate today 08:31 huginn` dac: The operation succeeded. 08:31 dac @later tell jcamins Have I ever mentioned ICA-AtoM to you? You might find it interesting: https://www.ica-atom.org/ 08:27 magnuse koha-shell++ for the convenience 08:19 kf now we need some kohails news 08:17 mtj (i thought i'd give it a restart, and see...) 08:16 mtj hmm, i'm sure the tweetbot has been a little quiet lately… :/ 08:16 tweetbot OK, now watching for 'kohails' 08:16 mtj !twadd kohails 08:16 tweetbot OK, now watching for '#kohails' 08:16 mtj !twadd #kohails 07:57 kf koha++ 07:24 kf hi magnuse 07:24 dcook Or swimming.. 07:24 dcook this one looks like stretching.../o 07:24 dcook o/ kf 07:24 dcook I really need to see this message.. 07:24 dcook hehe 07:24 magnuse KIA ORA KF! 07:24 magnuse pork? is that a new form of spam? 07:23 magnuse oh noes! 07:22 dcook The host was playing a song for me :( 07:22 dcook I just realized that I forgot to listen to the radio today 07:22 dcook ... 07:12 mtj ha, thats great 07:07 magnuse like http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23812365 07:06 mtj ...results are output via ticker-tape 07:04 mtj submit your queries via a punchcard reader 07:03 mtj yep, thats what i was thinking too :o) 07:03 dcook hehe 07:02 magnuse lol 07:02 magnuse a "physical opac" - is that a card catalogue? 07:02 mtj i bet there are still many libraries that have opacs that look 'steampunk', without the irony :p 07:02 magnuse you can buy these drab cabinets for self checkout stations, right? what if there was a steampunk version of that, bot for self check and for patron computers... 07:00 magnuse sure! 07:00 mtj magnus, a *physical* steampunk OPAC would be great 06:59 magnuse hiya alex_a and mtj 06:59 mtj heya mirko, alex_a 06:59 magnuse moin drojf 06:59 alex_a bonjour 06:58 drojf good morning #koha 06:57 magnuse just 5 degress difference :-) 06:57 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 19.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 06:57 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:57 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 27, 2013). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 06:57 magnuse @wunder boo 06:57 sophie_m hello magnuse 06:56 reiveune salut magnuse :) 06:56 magnuse gaetan_B: that is some way to great the world ;-) 06:56 magnuse bonjour reiveune sophie_m gaetan_B 06:56 gaetan_B :) 06:56 gaetan_B o 06:56 gaetan_B hell 06:44 reiveune \o/ 06:44 dcook hey ya reiveune :) 06:44 dcook Most important just being things like colours and backgrounds 06:44 wahanui salut, reiveune 06:44 reiveune hello 06:44 dcook Maybe a template that exposed the most important CSS properties? 06:43 mtj that hits my funny-bone 06:43 magnuse me too ;-) 06:43 dcook I wonder how skins are done... 06:42 dcook I like this idea, magnuse :) 06:42 cait bbiab 06:40 cait :) 06:36 * magnuse saw http://steampunker.de/en/gallery/show/workstation-070010001/ and thought maybe there should be a steampunk skin for koha... 06:08 magnuse hiya dcook 06:03 dcook hei magnuse :) 06:02 * magnuse waves 05:42 * cait waves 05:41 dcook hey ya cait :) 04:55 dcook Nevermind...it was someone who didn't know what they were doing with CSS... 04:45 dcook ie-- 04:43 * mtompset waves bye to dcook wizzyrea cjh etc, :) 04:43 dcook wizzyrea: She is catchy! 04:43 dcook ta mtompset 04:43 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 04:37 mtompset That's a good cover, wizzyrea. 04:31 dcook hehe 04:24 wizzyrea well actually it's the only version I really like. 04:19 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izrL7pBdkaw < is my favorite version 04:19 dcook I heard the first album years ago but I have never really followed them 04:19 wizzyrea hahahahahaha 04:19 dcook I'm sure I must've heard this song before... 04:17 * wizzyrea is so old 04:17 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plvpV9p0ywg < the only gorillaz song I know 04:17 dcook *sigh* 04:17 dcook The day after you write up your POD and then decide to change how your methods work... 04:16 dcook Gorillaz. Not Daft Punk. 04:16 dcook Hmmm, I was wondering why the last few minutes sounded different 04:02 mtompset Bah, it's more like daemons under RedHat so that Koha is better supported there. :P 03:57 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 02:02 PM, March 17, 2010) 03:57 wizzyrea @quote random 03:57 mtompset Almost relevant! 03:56 cjh hahahha 03:56 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 03:56 huginn` mtompset: Quote #200: "chris_n: usually the problem is either too much time and not enough cookies or not enough time and too many cookies" (added by wizzyrea at 03:24 PM, April 12, 2012) 03:56 mtompset @quote random 03:54 wizzyrea What does a grown man need with 12 frosty pigs? 03:54 mtompset KellySundin++ # WizzyRea is right, she did a good job of replying. 03:51 wizzyrea hehe that ad made me laugh 03:42 cjh wizzyrea++ 03:38 rangi "my soap is not funny" 03:37 rangi "I say, you too slow, you have crispy duck, sit down!" 03:36 rangi i love this tv add 03:36 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UbARVx-cq8&feature=youtu.be 03:31 jcamins Yep. 03:31 wizzyrea but the spirit is right 03:31 wizzyrea there are some technicalities there that aren't entirely correct 03:30 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, I thought that was a great message. 03:30 dcook wizzyrea: Not sure that I saw that. Hmm. 03:29 * dcook has been on a daft punk kick for the past week or so...can't help but koha to them 03:29 wizzyrea :D 03:29 dcook cjh++ 03:29 cjh ty wizzyrea 03:29 * cjh continues listening to daft punk 03:28 cjh :o 03:28 wizzyrea also can I just say, the librarian who called out the chron job person I really want to hug. 03:23 dcook Quite an appropriate last word, I think 03:22 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2013/08/27/helping-for-what-motivation/ 03:21 mtompset link? 03:21 rangi right that blogpost is my last word on the subject :) 03:07 rangi yep 03:07 dcook That's true. I feel bad for the people who use the bad instructions, but hopefully they'll see the links to the good ones and use those instead. That's about the best we can do. 03:05 rangi and its fairly obvious both the wiki and livedvd person arent listening, so no point scaring others 03:04 rangi yep 03:04 dcook In fact, I want to encourage people to talk to us without fear of being shouted down. 03:04 dcook Like you say, we don't want to come off as ogres. 03:03 rangi yep 03:03 dcook rangi: Yeah, I've said my two bits on LinkedIn, and now I'm ready to just post links to koha-community 03:01 rangi and leave it at that 03:01 rangi so if hilton insists on posting links to his wiki installation instructions, we just post one to the instructions that actually work 03:00 rangi the point has been made, it just makes us look surly 03:00 mtompset okay, sax and locale are going. 03:00 rangi people should not interact abuot the wrong wiki, except to post a link to the official wiki 03:00 jcamins rangi: I switched to packages as soon as they were available, so I haven't had to think about SAX parsers. 02:59 rangi i think from now one 02:59 rangi also 02:59 mtompset It's not mentioned on the package installations at all. 02:59 rangi havent had a problem yet 02:59 wahanui it has been said that really is off now 02:59 rangi i havent done the sax parser thing in 3 years 02:59 mtompset Really?! 02:59 rangi fwiw 02:59 jcamins SAX parser might need to be addressed still. 02:59 mtompset Good... those sections are getting ripped out. :) 02:58 jcamins Locale has not been an issue in a very long time. 02:58 rangi nope thats a non issue 02:58 mtompset Locale 02:58 mtompset I guess we are no longer worried about the SAXParser. 02:58 mtompset I'm just trying to wrap my head around "souce based" installs... merging the idea of tarball install and git install into the same set of instructions. 02:57 mtompset True enough. 02:57 jcamins Sure, and that's why it's possible. That doesn't mean we need to recommend it. 02:56 mtompset But some people haven't taken the plunge to build their own packages, but they are familiar with the tarball install. 02:55 mtompset wizzyrea: I would agree with that. 02:54 wizzyrea if you're gonna do that you should just build your own packages 02:52 mtompset We aren't always lucky to have someone maintaining the version prior to oldstable, however. 02:52 mtompset Hmmm... I just realized there may be a reason I install a tarball koha on a debian-based OS for production -- I want to stick with 3.8.x, even though 3.12.x is current. 02:25 * mtj adds that to his list of 'things i promised to do for Koha' 02:24 mtj yep, i'll, at least, have a go at it :) 02:23 jcamins If you are able to write a unit test, please do. 02:22 mtj this one feels like a worthy exception 02:16 jcamins No, we don't usually do unit tests for Perl scripts. It'd be great if we did, but kind of challenging. 02:15 mtj (i think the feature is missing that, so far) 02:15 mtj perhaps make a ./t/test.pl to show how its failing 02:11 mtj i think i might give it a go, and see how far i get... 02:11 jcamins Thanks. 02:09 mtj its a very impressive patch 02:04 jcamins And there are some warnings. 02:04 jcamins mtj: matchchecks don't work with authorities. 02:04 mtj yeah, a good point :) 02:03 mtompset (thankfully, my opinion doesn't matter on this) 02:03 mtompset Isn't messing up authorities a scary show stopper? ;) 02:02 mtj s/the/are the/ 02:02 mtj jcamins, the known problems scary show-stoppers? 02:00 jcamins Ah. I would certainly be happy to see that. 01:59 mtj yeah… i was thinking i could help 01:58 jcamins I'll fix it when I can, but it's not going to be in time for any migrations you're currently working on. 01:57 mtj (i left a little note on the bug asking Tomas for that info) 01:57 mtj ah, ok 01:51 jcamins No, because he didn't write them up. 01:51 mtj looks like tcohen's problems didn't get added to the bug 01:41 jcamins Which need to be addressed. 01:41 jcamins Yeah, tcohen started testing it and ran into some problems. 01:41 mtj woah, looks impressive 01:41 mtompset pimp that bug, baby. ;) 01:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add authority deduplication script 01:40 jcamins What might help would be bug 7419. 01:39 jcamins That's for matching bibs against authorities. 01:39 mtj was very handy :) 01:39 jcamins Yeah, but that's not going to help. 01:39 mtj i did spot this too -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug7284_authority_matching_improvement 01:37 jcamins Right. 01:37 mtj heya jcamins, thanks for the info 01:37 mtompset -- unless you provide a patch? ;) 01:37 jcamins Really. 01:37 jcamins It won't work. 01:36 mtj but, i did also note that ./bulkmarcimport has a --match='245a/title' arg 01:36 jcamins mtj: yeah, deal with it outside of Koha. 01:35 mtj -> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2011-January/027342.html 01:35 mtj i spotted a list thread from 2011 where the solution seemed to be to handle this problem outside of koha 01:33 mtj hi all, does anyone have any experience about handling duplicated auth records, when importing…? 01:27 mtompset My Filipino family and friends are talking about this senator involved in this mess. 01:26 mtompset rangi: It isn't about scrapping pork. It's about government kick-backs. 01:17 dcook O_o 01:17 rangi not unless you want to scrap pork 01:17 dcook I'm sure I'm not missing anything :p 01:16 dcook Hmm, I never did see the petition one in the end 01:16 rangi without telling you 01:16 rangi that looks like one of those dumb ones that sends mail to everyone in your address book 00:53 cjh ww 00:53 cjh lastlog -clar 00:53 dcook I really should set up a bouncer one of these days... 00:53 dcook Hmm, I wasn't here for that :p 00:52 mtompset Hence the comment by oleonard about not warning rangi to not check his emails earlier. 00:51 dcook I almost would've done better not reading my emails... 00:22 * dcook takes a look 00:22 dcook I only get the digests so it might not have arrived yet 00:20 mtompset Check your email. You'll see why I called it that. 00:20 dcook That sounds familiar 00:20 dcook Petition spam? 00:20 mtompset Looks like we got petition spam. :( 00:17 mtompset not sure. 00:03 dcook Cool beans. I tweaked the host file at home as it was just easier. I assume that they're just experimenting as well? 00:02 mtompset (just like the instructions said to do, if you get stuck) 00:02 mtompset It was the "explain the tweak hosts file" guy. I explained a little, and suggested he talk with his IT guy. Now he worked through that step with help from his system administrator. :) 00:00 dcook Nice one, mtompset :)