Time  Nick         Message
23:55 jcamins      n_acq_a_porter, BL_304, etc.
23:55 jcamins      tcohen, I think.
23:55 wahanui      somebody said ah was ?
23:55 tcohen       ah?
23:52 jcamins      tcohen/cjh: do you need me to delete those tags?
23:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #85 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:42 mtompset     the array of hashes it generates is nice.
23:40 * tcohen     is loving Slice => {}
22:32 tcohen       hi cjh
22:31 cjh          tcohen: ty
21:06 wahanui      tt plugins are awesome
21:06 tcohen       tt plugins?
20:44 wahanui      tt plugins are awesome
20:44 jcamins      tt plugins?
20:41 tcohen       template plugins?
20:40 druthb       Have a great weekend #koha!
20:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10745 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , More fun on translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
20:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10664 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Software error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency
20:26 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10745: remove more ambiguity for translators for XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
20:26 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10664 [QA Followup] - fix error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency
20:26 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10664: fix error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency
20:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #84: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/84/
20:04 cait         yep :)
19:56 jcamins      Looks like someone got confused and read the translation as a hyphenated name.
19:55 cait         jcamins: oh cool, looks like i was right :)
19:55 jcamins      Yup.
19:55 mtompset     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Angelocrator ?
19:49 cait         [off] aha :)
19:48 jcamins      [off] This bibliographer was impressively unskilled.
19:48 jcamins      That's possible.
19:48 cait         i am wondering if the first part is supposed to be a translation of the second
19:48 jcamins      In a bibliography.
19:47 jcamins      Oh.
19:47 cait         the name :)
19:47 cait         jcamins: you know that engel means angel?
19:47 jcamins      cait: find what?
19:47 cait         jcamins: where did you find that one?
19:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #84 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:45 * jcamins    figured that out based on the fact that your MIL referred to you in Korean. :)
19:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1386: SUCCESS in 1 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1386/
19:45 rambutan     I guess I neglected to mention my ex-wife was Korean.
19:44 rambutan     only slightly I suppose. She was quite old, had a number of children and grandchildren, and while I was a foreigner I think she was just at the point of not bothering to get to personal with others
19:43 rambutan     indeed
19:43 mtompset     rambutan: Sounds like she didn't like you.
19:43 druthb       rambutan:  "that person."  how…impersonal.
19:42 tcohen       leaving home, bye #koha
19:41 rambutan     My ex-mother-in-law always called me "그 사람" - "that person".
19:41 mtompset     I'll admit, I have problems with pronouns. I like my pronouns genotypical. :(
19:39 druthb       I'm also kind of used to it on the phone, and at drive-through windows—I do have a deep voice.  But someone who's known me for two decades, and has been asked repeatedly…no.  Time's up.  I've been Ruth for three years.
19:39 rambutan     I think Koha would be a good name for a tea: "Koha Tea"
19:39 jcamins      What a name. "Angelocrator-Engelhardt."
19:37 mtompset     true, druthb. Sometimes that a good thing.
19:37 cait         i got tea... some good koha company... and the family has left.
19:37 druthb       It's also a cultural thing.  If I see an Asian immigrant at a store, and they call me "sir", I cut them some slack; some Asian languages lack gender-specific pronouns altogether.
19:37 cait         :)
19:37 cait         guess i should switch into qa mode
19:36 cait         mtompset: it's ok :) i am quite tolerant to that, but i think druthb has a good point about individuals and such
19:35 mtompset     I apologize, cait if you were offended. I did mean it in a good way.
19:35 * cait       thinks that some people are quite stupid.
19:34 mtompset     Oh, sorry to hear that.
19:34 druthb       The notion of gender-ish language is just kind of a sore spot for me, after last night's Facebook drama.  Lost a couple of friends I'd known for 20+ years over it.
19:33 druthb       heh.
19:32 mtompset     Not exactly the kind of imagery a straight guy associates with.
19:32 mtompset     I'm the bride of Christ, for example, after all.
19:32 mtompset     Yes, but I'm okay with appropriate idiomatic uses.
19:31 druthb       I'm not for replacing general-purpose terms like "mankind" with awkward constructs like "personkind;" when speaking in a generality about the whole species, I'm okay with the masculine terms.  But when speaking of a specific individual, it's kind of important to me to use the ones they do.  That Golden Rule thing.
19:29 mtompset     druthb++
19:29 mtompset     Hmm... true, in that situation it does.
19:28 druthb       "gal" would do nicely.
19:28 druthb       Let's just say I'm tetchy about such things, having been called a dude-in-a-dress one too many times.
19:28 mtompset     Unless you have a gender neutral version that fits the beat.
19:28 mtompset     Plus, woman doesn't fit the cheer. :P
19:27 druthb       I am, of course.  Doesn't mean I *like* it, but I am aware of it.
19:26 mtompset     druthb: You are well aware of the idiomatic use of "You're the man!"
19:26 cait         thx druthb
19:26 mtompset     No such file, so I don't know how khall_away signed it off.
19:26 * druthb     chucks Skittles at mtompset for the joking misgendering of Super Cait.
19:26 mtompset     http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=20059&action=diff
19:24 mtompset     There is no such thing as t/lib/Mocks/Context.pm anywhere in the patches.
19:23 mtompset     And yes, that's the 3 lines of code that is missing.
19:22 mtompset     jcamins: Part of the ugliness was the use of t::lib::Mocks::Context, which may have been pulled into t::lib::Mocks
19:21 * mtompset   grins.
19:20 mtompset     Cait! Cait! She's our man. If she can't break it... someone else will. ;)
19:20 cait         i will take that as a compliment then
19:20 cait         ok :)
19:19 cait         lol
19:18 tcohen       cait: you always come witha super specific scenario I didn't think of
19:07 cait         you don't need my blessing!
19:07 cait         heh
19:07 tcohen       :-P
19:07 tcohen       so, I have your blessing
19:06 wahanui      patron categories are used to define circulation
19:06 cait         patron categories
19:06 cait         tcohen: i think it would make sense to have dropdowns for branches etc
19:05 cait         druthb!
19:05 * druthb     hugs cait.
19:05 tcohen       date pickers? valid branchcodes, etc?
19:05 druthb       cait!
19:04 cait         tcohen: hm what are we talking about?
19:04 tcohen       cait: is there a special use case were you wouldn't prefer to have dropdown menues for fixed value stuff on the patron import?
19:03 cait         not really late, but too late to work
19:03 wahanui      jcamins: i'm not following you...
19:03 jcamins      wahanui certainly thinks so.
19:03 cait         :)
19:02 cait         it's 9 pm
19:02 tcohen       i mean, you're around
19:02 wahanui      cait: go to bed
19:02 jcamins      cait?
19:02 cait         ?
19:01 tcohen       isn't "later" on germany?
19:01 cait         tcohen: i think it's too late on a friday :)
18:59 tcohen       anyone from biblibre around?
18:47 mtompset     I also have been able to tweak a couple minor things like comments, missing semi-colon on an SQL statement, etc.
18:34 jcamins      I see.
18:33 mtompset     Don't ask where and how... I've forgotten, in the blur of going through things one by one.
18:33 mtompset     3 lines of code.
18:33 mtompset     Because there is a piece missing, I think.
18:32 jcamins      The obsoleted patches were obsoleted for reasons.
18:31 jcamins      Why are you going through obsoleted patches?
18:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #1386 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:31 mtompset     I have been going through the obsoleted patches with a fine tooth comb, to make sure I didn't miss any pieces. I'm just over half way through.
18:30 jcamins      That's probably the better plan anyway. Though, as you know, I preferred to just have the author rebase.
18:30 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10745 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , More fun on translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
18:30 jenkins_koha Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10745: remove more ambiguity for translators for XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
18:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1385: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1385/
18:29 jcamins      Ah.
18:29 mtompset     jcamins: Yes, I am trying to get it into master. It wasn't a matter of changed mind, it was a matter of oops I said origin/master on this branch.
18:22 jcamins      :)
18:21 * tcohen     feels some tiny bit of success, maybe enough for friday
18:21 jcamins      We'll have to see if I can find ripe avocadoes.
18:21 jcamins      Nice!
18:21 jcamins      Oooh.
18:20 tcohen       guacamole?
18:20 jcamins      I'm thinking maybe mozzarella.
18:20 jcamins      :P
18:20 jcamins      cait: yes, they're called cucumber sandwiches, and all they are is cucumber on bread.
18:19 cait         isn't there a famous english sandwich with cucumber?
18:19 cait         cucumber sounds not too bad
18:19 tcohen       basil, some soft cheese, and olives
18:19 cait         hm not so easy
18:18 jcamins      And cucumbers, watermelon, and a tiny piece of fennel.
18:18 cait         but tomatos don't belong in the fridge
18:18 wahanui      tomatoes are out, as I have none.
18:18 jcamins      cait: tomatoes.
18:18 cait         jcamins: what's in your fridge?
18:18 * cait       waves
18:18 jcamins      Ideally.
18:17 tcohen       vegetarian?
18:17 tcohen       hmm
18:16 jcamins      Tell me what I should put on paninis for dinner other than tomatoes.
18:16 jcamins      [off] Here is something you can be successful with:
18:16 tcohen       [off] </rant>
18:16 tcohen       [off] I know heh. It's been a hard day, and would like to feel some level of success
18:15 jcamins      [off] You can push it tomorrow, after the release. :)
18:15 tcohen       [off] f*%k string freeze, there's tons of interesting stuff to push
18:13 jcamins      drojf: can you eat oats?
17:36 jcamins      BTW, I guess you changed your mind about backporting directly (wise) and are trying to get it into master now?
17:34 jcamins      mtompset: I think that is unnecessary, since we've never done it before. As long as it points out the existence of the syspref and config variable, it is the sysadmin's responsibility to deal with it.
17:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10745 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , More fun on translation bug with XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
17:26 jenkins_koha Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10745: remove more ambiguity for translators for XSLT subfieldSelect parameters
17:26 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #64: SUCCESS in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/64/
17:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #1385 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:15 oleonard     \o/
17:15 mtompset     early?!
17:15 oleonard     have a good weekend #koha. I'm out.
17:14 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10741 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Can not place a hold on an item in transit and for loan
17:14 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10741: (follow-up) add regression test
17:14 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10741: reformat test for displaying place hold link in OPAC search results
17:14 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10741: restore holdability of in-transit items on OPAC search results
17:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1384: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1384/
17:14 wahanui      it has been said that the patch is pretty old now, good luck
17:14 mtompset     well, the patch.
17:14 mtompset     I'm trying to reconstruct what I think is the bug for 6874.
17:13 pastebot     "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "example" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/186
17:12 druthb       The norm for a long time was that a new DB rev added one line only to the output, like "Added new variables for blah blah"
17:12 oleonard     Example?
17:11 mtompset     If a feature is added, should it include a a couple lines explaining what config variables or system preferences need tweaking in the output of updatedatabase.pl?
17:10 druthb       mhm
17:09 mtompset     Mr. Hanky's cousin?
17:09 druthb       Geez, I'm a snarky wench today.    *shrug*  One o' them days.
17:07 druthb       I originally thought that was tawdry and silly.  Then I actually *used* Pootle for a while, and think it *totally* accurate
17:07 druthb       Given the Pootle project logo...
17:07 mtompset     Pootle sounds a lot like potty.
17:06 druthb       For Pootle, it should be.
17:06 mtompset     No. But crowbar is most certainly not a function. :P
17:06 druthb       you've obviously not hacked on Pootle much.
17:06 mtompset     no no no... with a |
17:05 druthb       The Pootle box, at midnight, with a crowbar...
17:05 mtompset     That's true.
17:05 huginn`      druthb: Quote #241: "oleonard: The Pootle box at midnight sounds like a mystery novel" (added by druthb at 03:08 PM, April 18, 2013)
17:05 druthb       @quote random
17:04 huginn`      mtompset: Quote #128: "When TDF was founded, the group's leadership invited Oracle to participate in the hope that the database giant would be willing to hand over the OOo trademark and allow the vendor-neutral governance body to take over stewardship of the project" (added by wizzyrea at 07:11 PM, April 18, 2011)
17:04 mtompset     @quote random
17:03 jcamins      oleonard: I don't think I'd wear that.
17:02 mtompset     If a feature is added, should it include a a couple lines explaining what config variables or system preferences need tweaking?
17:02 druthb       The most-recent "Team cPanel" shirt has on the back, "I've got 1100011 problems but b****y ain't one."
17:02 * oleonard   pictures a Superbowl-style ring for every RM
17:02 mtompset     On a more relevant thread... how much information should the updatedatabase.pl print?
17:01 mtompset     Get a fancy tie clip made up with the koha logo.
17:00 mtompset     Hmmm.... the tie... "The Koha RM Tie" ;)
16:55 jcamins      No, there would have to be an actual tie to go with the rest of my clothing.
16:54 mtompset     with tie printed on it?
16:54 mtompset     Cheesy t-shirt with T printed on it?
16:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #64 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:50 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10741 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Can not place a hold on an item in transit and for loan
16:50 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10741: (follow-up) add regression test
16:50 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10741: reformat test for displaying place hold link in OPAC search results
16:50 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10741: restore holdability of in-transit items on OPAC search results
16:50 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #63: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/63/
16:47 * druthb     blushes and hides
16:46 jcamins      lol
16:46 * jcamins    only wears short sleeves when it passes 90 degrees.
16:46 druthb       *just* the tie?    :-O
16:46 jcamins      rambutan: except I wouldn't wear the t-shirt.
16:45 druthb       jcamins could make a tie work with *anything*, I think.
16:45 rambutan     well, that would work. A tie with a t-shirt.
16:45 jcamins      gmcharlt: the tie I would wear.
16:45 druthb       lol
16:45 * gmcharlt   backs away slowly from druthb
16:45 gmcharlt     erk
16:44 druthb       jcamins's shirt would need to have a tie printed on the front.
16:44 gmcharlt     jcamins: just for you, we'll design a Koha tie
16:44 * jcamins    would be "won't wear it anyway."
16:44 druthb       oleonard++
16:44 druthb       lol
16:43 oleonard     Bring it on.
16:43 rambutan     [off]copyright problems with a Koha-branded t-shirt in the US????
16:42 * druthb     thinks about a t-shirt order for KohaCon.  The Koha logo on the front of all of them, and on the back…. hm.  gmcharlt: Glutton for Punishment  oleonard: Template God    cait: Stress-o-Matic
16:42 rambutan     I still have my lime green Koha t-shirt. Kinda raggy these days, wear it for gardening
16:40 * oleonard   wonders where his "Koha templates" t-shirt is
16:37 druthb       I've also been adjuncted onto the Security team; not enough to have any clout, but enough that I got the t-shirt, and am on their mailing list.  *shrug*
16:31 druthb       Our Scrum teams get to come up with clever names…  Cobra, Code Monkeys, Angry Llamas, and now Phoenix.  Never a dull moment at cPanel.
16:30 druthb       No, she's doing a good job and all.  Just still not quite sure why I got invited.  Nothing much for me to do with it, really.
16:30 druthb       That team (Phoenix) is on an interesting project right now, and they've done some pretty snazzy things in the last couple of sprints.
16:30 gmcharlt     IOW, you'll anti-harrumph at the docs person? ;)
16:28 druthb       I just kind of nod approvingly.
16:28 druthb       They have a docs person to actually *do* it.
16:27 druthb       It's a nice break from  my desk, but low on content, for me.
16:27 jcamins      gmcharlt: they want another 40 APIs documented.
16:27 druthb       One of our scrum teams here has added me to their demo list.  By definition, if they're tinkering with the API, I'm a stakeholder and should be there.  But out of a half-hour demo, about 2 minutes actually applies to me.
16:26 gmcharlt     druthb: oh?
16:25 * druthb     goes "harrrumph.
16:16 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10745: remove more ambiguity for translators for XSLT subfieldSelect parameters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b9cd85dd0dbd7e3470c783e0e024ad32df2f8b5>
16:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #63 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:06 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10741: (follow-up) add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e7379342d7cd8386baf884a77f54f95188bb85c> / Bug 10741: reformat test for displaying place hold link in OPAC search results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=397ba93f97855625865689ef0dd0c69a20c8a915> / Bug 10741: restore holdability of in-transit items on OPAC search results <http://git.
16:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #1384 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:52 druthb       back in a bit.
15:47 * mtompset   finds an interesting youtube track for "He Understands Me" (http://youtu.be/sXr4uamnPHU)
15:47 drojf        meh. library closing. later
15:45 jcamins      Exactly.
15:45 druthb       it's part of the CSS class.
15:45 druthb       I just assume jcamins has sarcasm tags all the time, when talking about docs.
15:45 drojf        [off] i have been meaning to go to some argentinian place in berlin and get mate leaves for a while now. but now i have to go to a czech place that imported some gluten free beer for me first. i feel like drinking weird things is taking up more and more time in my life :D
15:44 mtompset     I think you forgot the sarcasm tags, jcamins. ;)
15:43 jcamins      Sounds scintillating.
15:43 druthb       cPanel's API model.
15:43 gaetan_B     bye !
15:43 drojf        [off] i might confuse things but isn't argentina the place where coca leaves as tea are legal? i'd make lemonade out of that too if i could :D
15:43 jcamins      What are you documenting?
15:42 mtompset     [off] Sadly, jcamins has a point. Of course, if you put them in nice tea bags, and prepare it like tea (which it is), then perhaps there won't be problems.
15:42 * druthb     scrolls back, is still confused, goes back to brooding, and writing her documentation.
15:41 drojf        [off] oh, i forgot you live in the us :P
15:41 jcamins      [off] "What are these illegal drugs you're carrying?" "This is just tea." "Oh. Well, since I called them illegal drugs earlier because I didn't recognize tea I have to arrest you now."
15:40 drojf        [off] problems? i think it is not regulated at all here. we have a brasilian mate guy here that does his own harvest and ships it to germany
15:40 tcohen       [off] i'll of course try :-D
15:39 jcamins      [off] tcohen: I'd ask you to bring some mate so I could try it without feeling guilty about the source, but I feel like you might have trouble at customs.
15:38 drojf        i wonder how much postage to argentina is. but sending glass bottles is not really fun
15:38 mtompset     [off] but don't worry... if you are evil enough, you'll get 2 years of use, before being slaughtered when armageddon happens. ;)
15:37 drojf        [off] i guess i could harvest now and prepare one very special bottle of mate ;)
15:36 drojf        [off] d'oh
15:36 mtompset     [off] drojf, you only have 3.5 years... thats when the bloody bath will happen. The end is nigh! ;)
15:35 jcamins      [off] A cult that follows the teachings of Revelations (yes, *those* teachings), and happens to have somehow gotten control of the mate market when it was just starting. Actually, I should check... maybe there are other sources now. I've never tried it because we don't want to support the cult.
15:35 drojf        [off] i have a mate plant living on my balcony. it's recovering from some nasty bugs but it looks like it's growing again. it's about 30cm, so i guess i can harvest in about 5 years :D
15:34 drojf        [off] really? a mate cult?
15:33 jcamins      [off] Actually, there is a cult in Ithaca that controls a lot of the imports into the US, so Shari and I avoid mate.
15:33 drojf        i don't believe there will be lots of people waiting for the last week to hand something in
15:33 drojf        what did we say? we close proposals end of the month, right?
15:33 jcamins      [off] Mate is important!
15:32 drojf        [off] seriously to try the drink? :D
15:32 drojf        it looks pretty much like it takes place in argentina at least
15:32 tcohen       btw, i hope kohacon14 takes place in argentina, and you can come
15:31 tcohen       [off] seriously
15:31 drojf        lol
15:31 tcohen       to just give it a try :-D
15:31 tcohen       i'll try to go to germany soon
15:30 drojf        tcohen: i'll try to bring some to argentina if i somehow find a way to attend kohacon 2014 ;)
15:29 drojf        talljoy: i don't think it is a thing much outside germany. there has been one brand and it gained in popularity a lot over the last years, now there are more and more mate soft drinks popping up everywhere
15:17 * jcamins    will post an updated patch that quiets the warnings as soon as he has one.
15:16 jcamins      Hehe.
15:16 tcohen       heh
15:16 tcohen       that paper in the picture is me counting your sample record matches yesterday
15:15 tcohen       exactly :-P
15:14 jcamins      Nice!
15:13 jcamins      With Koha?
15:13 tcohen       (i mean, reading Koha's start page of course)
15:13 tcohen       This is how people actually drink mate in Argentina: http://snag.gy/nhIsx.jpg
15:12 reiveune     bye
14:35 talljoy      the yerba mate i remember is just like a funky tasting tea with lots of sugar.  and you drink it out of a gourd.  (my mom is from south america)  i've never seen it carbonated.  Yerba mate soda?  eenteresting....
14:30 mtompset     Ah, so it is carbonated. Interesting.
14:30 mtompset     Yes, it was strangely applicable.
14:29 oleonard     That was an appropriate random quote
14:29 drojf        kind of. it is quite common in soft drink form in germany, at least among hackers, nerds and lately hipsters ;)
14:28 mtompset     Ah, so a type of tea.
14:27 mtompset     yerba mate?
14:27 drojf        hi mtompset
14:26 drojf        fun fact: there has been a "caffeine hackathon" in berlin, i think last weekend. seems like they did crazy cooking with yerba mate and started a database of caffeinated drinks
14:25 huginn`      druthb: Quote #265: "<gmcharlt> #koha ... once you join, you need never sleep again!" (added by wizzyrea at 04:32 AM, June 27, 2013)
14:25 druthb       @quote random
14:25 mtompset     Greetings, druthb drojf oleonard gmcharlt. :)
14:25 drojf        caffeine++
14:23 druthb       Hi, mtompset!
14:23 oleonard     I'm not a caffeine hound, but I do love that mug.
14:23 gmcharlt     oleonard++
14:22 oleonard     http://store.dieselsweeties.com/collections/coffee-mug-zone
14:22 * magnuse    calls it a week - have fun #koha, and don't forget GBSD! :-)
14:22 mtompset     Glad I wasn't the only one. :)
14:22 gmcharlt     caffeine++
14:22 huginn`      mtompset: Karma for "caffeine" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
14:22 mtompset     @karma caffeine
14:21 mtompset     caffeine++
14:21 gmcharlt     me <-- COFFEE
14:21 gmcharlt     *fast
14:20 gmcharlt     faster learner
14:20 oleonard     Remember back in April paul_p introduced her by saying "she knows nothing about Perl & git."
14:19 oleonard     kenza++
14:14 wahanui      Cookies are delicious delicacies
14:14 drojf        cookies!
14:11 magnuse      lol
14:11 wahanui      i am a strange duck
14:11 rambutan     wahanui!
14:10 magnuse      :-)
14:10 wahanui      magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
14:10 rambutan     magnuse!!
14:10 magnuse      rambutan!
14:05 magnuse      s/like/likes/
14:05 * magnuse    crunches data and like metal music too
14:04 talljoy      good morning!
14:04 talljoy      lol
14:04 magnuse      heh
14:04 wahanui      I CRUNCH DATA or kicking butt at words with friends
14:04 magnuse      talljoy!
14:04 wahanui      I LIKE PLAYING DRUMS AND METAL MUSIC
14:04 magnuse      maximep!
13:56 huginn`      drojf: Karma for "eduroam" has been increased 1 time and decreased 7 times for a total karma of -6.
13:56 drojf        @karma eduroam
13:56 drojf        eduroam--
13:54 magnuse      drojf!
13:52 drojf        druthb! :)
13:52 druthb       drojf! :)
13:46 magnuse      i have to run in like 15 minutes, so it's good someone else has taken over The Whip :-)
13:45 magnuse      go oleonard go!
13:45 magnuse      oleonard++
13:45 * oleonard   borrows magnuse's GBSD whip to enforce this new rule
13:45 druthb       :)
13:44 oleonard     In other news, I love git bz and I want to force all others to use it too!
13:38 magnuse      indeed
13:38 magnuse      yuck
13:36 druthb       That was the last straw.  Told her when she cared enough about me to call me by my legal name and gender, then she might be close enough to get let in on the deep knowledge of my "lifestyle" (sooooo booooring…), but until then, there's no room for her in my life.
13:34 oleonard     Yuck.
13:34 druthb       nope; she then proceeded to do it again in a private message, telling me that my "lifestyle" was abhorrent to (their) god, and I should renounce it, and…       bah.
13:30 druthb       talljoy++
13:30 oleonard     Seems like a real friend would be mortified to have made that mistake.
13:27 druthb       She actually called me "david" in a comment on a facebook thread last night.  talljoy jumped on it.
13:27 oleonard     I'm sure it's completely outside the realm of experience for many, but all it takes is a bit of care--something you would think a friend could take.
13:26 magnuse      ouch
13:24 druthb       Had a wee bit of Facebook drama hit last night, and it's made me a bit grouchy.  About three years ago, I told the #koha community to please acknowledge my gender change and stop calling me jdavidb…and it's happened, no itch.  So why is it that a friend of 20 years can't seem to get it?  People I've never met—and some, likely never will—are nicer to me than old friends.
13:23 * druthb     chuckles.
13:22 magnuse      :-)
13:22 magnuse      oh noes
13:22 oleonard     It's okay magnuse, when druthb starts snapping like that she's simply segueing into a "West Side Story"-style dance number.
13:21 magnuse      oh noes
13:11 * druthb     snaps.
13:03 magnuse      moahahahaha
13:03 wahanui      Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
13:03 magnuse      druthb!
13:02 druthb       magnuse! :D
12:58 magnuse      druthb!
12:56 magnuse      :-)
12:54 oleonard     As a Yank, I have no idea what you're talking about.
12:54 magnuse      well, not just the yanks, i meant to include south, middle and north america :-)
12:53 magnuse      better late than never :-)
12:53 magnuse      hehe
12:52 oleonard     We'll spend lots of time dithering about it first, and then jump in at the last minute.
12:51 oleonard     Once again it's up to the Yanks!
12:51 magnuse      s/up/up to/
12:51 magnuse      looks like africa and europe are on holiday or otherwise engaged - it's up you now, americans ;-) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-08-23_Global_bug_squashing_day#Numbers
12:08 Viktor       Ah, true of course jcamins :)
12:07 jcamins      Viktor: you could easily do that with jQuery.
12:04 Viktor       A little thought for the new themes: how about making fields like alternate address expandable but not visible from start?
12:03 Viktor       And #koha :)
12:03 Viktor       Hi oleonard
12:02 oleonard     Hi #koha
11:30 tcohen       hi magnuse
11:29 * tcohen     needs breakfast, bbl
11:29 * magnuse    needs lunch
11:16 huginn`      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
11:16 tcohen       @later tell cjh we had a power outage yesterday, bgkriegel will be sending the translations pull request during the day
11:14 tcohen       hi kf
11:14 kf           hi tcohen
11:13 tcohen       morning #koha
09:55 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
09:55 magnuse      @wunder boo
09:45 huginn`      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 19.9°C (11:45 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
09:45 kf           @wunder Konstanz
09:42 huginn`      drojf: The current temperature in Alter Schlachthof, Berlin, Germany is 21.7°C (11:40 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
09:42 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
09:09 kf           didn't work out as i hoped for today
09:09 kf           wish i had more time :(
09:09 kf           true
08:56 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9949 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, Failed QA , Tidy up the intranet set up and fix a potential security issue when running from git
08:56 magnuse      someone who does have the time should look at bug 9949
08:52 drojf        :(
08:52 * drojf      neither
08:51 * magnuse    will not be able to contribute much this time, sadly
08:51 magnuse      ...and for papa
08:50 magnuse      but there are still some left for you drojf :-)
08:50 magnuse      needs signoff has gone from 165 to 150
08:43 drojf        hows the bug squashing going? :)
08:43 drojf        hi #koha
08:31 magnuse      that is... less hot ;-)
08:31 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
08:31 magnuse      @wunder boo
08:31 magnuse      ooh, that's hot!
08:31 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0°C (10:05 AM CEST on August 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
08:31 magnuse      @wunder marseille
08:15 magnuse      yeah, and i have to do some sql for old_issues anyway
08:13 kf           and you can set more fields, like renwals
08:13 kf           magnuse: straight sql has workednicely for us
08:13 * magnuse    ponders how to migrate active loans - a .koc file or straight sql?
07:37 kf           good morning :)
07:25 dcook        And weekend
07:25 dcook        Night all. Have a good Friday :)
07:23 dcook        rangi, wizzyrea: I imagine that you two might find this amusing ^^
07:23 dcook        https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488067041279181&set=a.125606330858589.34019.111617515590804&type=1&ref=nf
07:23 dcook        So I really should be running along, but...
07:16 magnuse      KIA ORA KF!
07:13 wahanui      gbsd is Global Bug Squashing Day
07:13 kf           gbsd?
07:13 kf           and happy GBSD to Europe!
07:13 kf           back :)
07:12 magnuse      "needs signoff" is down from 165 to 150 - yay!
07:11 magnuse      oh and happy gbsd europe! http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-08-23_Global_bug_squashing_day
07:10 dcook        Well, there are little bits and pieces to improve, but I think it working pretty well
07:10 dcook        I think I just need to add in some email notifications and then I might actually try more thorough testing...
07:09 magnuse      yay!
07:09 dcook        The OAI-PMH harvester goes well :)
07:08 dcook        hey magnuse :)
07:08 * magnuse    waves in french
06:56 dcook        Bah, c'est seulement 8 heures. Ce serai 5 bientôt ;)
06:56 dcook        jusqu'au moment*
06:56 reiveune     dcook: seulement 8 heures jusqu'au weekend :(
06:56 dcook        Ack,
06:56 dcook        je devrais attendre jusqu'au le moment quand tout le monde arrive :p
06:55 gaetan_B     hello # koha, salut dcook :)
06:55 dcook        salut gaetan_B
06:55 wahanui      reiveune is working for biblibre
06:55 dcook        hey reiveune
06:55 dcook        seulement 6 minutes jusqu'au weekend ;)
06:54 wahanui      what's up, reiveune
06:54 reiveune     hello
06:54 alex_a       cool
06:54 dcook        assez bien
06:53 alex_a       ça va dcook et toi ?
06:53 dcook        ça va?
06:53 dcook        salut alex_a
06:51 alex_a       bonjour
06:42 dcook        Hmm, could have better versioning of imports, but...it's not too bad..
06:35 dcook        Let's see about automating this bad boy...
06:31 dcook        Yay! Got the matching working...
06:13 dcook        Quite functional
06:13 dcook        Well, maybe not beautiful
06:12 dcook        Ohh...the MARC importing is quite beautiful...
06:08 cait         it's alright
06:08 dcook        Just offering my perspective ;)
06:08 dcook        Not to disagree
06:08 dcook        afternoon cait :)
06:08 cait         good morning #koha
05:46 dcook        Ok, C4::Matcher, it's on!
04:48 * dcook      needs to pay more attention to the AMIA-L listserv.
04:48 dcook        For anyone who has an interest in the way acid gases react with alkali buffered paper: http://world.museumsprojekte.de/?p=1721
04:43 AmitG        heya bag
04:03 wizzyrea     mtompset++
03:27 dcook        This is bonkers
03:27 dcook        I'm giving up though and going for lunch
03:27 dcook        label-edit-batch.tt and labels-batches-toolbar.inc
03:24 wizzyrea     what are you looking at?
03:23 dcook        No idea at all...this makes zero sense
02:57 dcook        :S
02:57 dcook        Nope, that doesn't make sense either..
02:57 wahanui      it has been said that unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either
02:57 dcook        Unless...
02:56 dcook        There is no discernable difference between this code...
02:56 dcook        :S
02:48 wizzyrea     can't have that now can we.
02:48 wizzyrea     seems pretty borrower friendly to me :P
02:47 wizzyrea     also it's marked "critical"
02:47 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9614 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fines not assessed after renewing an item
02:47 wizzyrea     interesting. bug 9614 apropos what we were talking about earlier about fines.
02:46 dcook        Although apparently "remove item" doesn't work in anything?
02:35 dcook        Although I think my first place in Vancouver was overratted...
02:35 dcook        overrated even...
02:35 dcook        Normal is overratted anyway :p
02:34 wizzyrea     I'm not always normal
02:34 wizzyrea     *normally*
02:34 wizzyrea     normally I check that kind of thing before filing a bug.
02:33 wizzyrea     I am quite sure I would not file a bug for something that was broken in 3.8, but was already fixed in master.
02:33 * dcook      experiments
02:33 dcook        Hmm
02:33 dcook        Fair enough.
02:32 wizzyrea     I feel like I did report that...but perhaps not because it was only 3.8
02:32 * wizzyrea   ponders
02:32 dcook        wizzyrea: Do you note that issue with a bug?
02:31 dcook        Yet...I don't see why it should be fixed in 3.12...
02:28 dcook        It was concidence...and now I will never upgrade that computer (or use it for anything important)
02:28 dcook        Well, not "so"
02:28 dcook        Fortunately(?), I have a computer to my right that still has IE8 on it so I can test these things
02:27 dcook        Being a reasonable person and all, wizzyrea :)
02:27 wizzyrea     but you know I don't have a IE handy very often
02:27 dcook        Yep. Looks like it's working in 3.12 in IE8 :)
02:26 * dcook      is going to check now
02:26 wizzyrea     I *thought* it was fixed in 3.12
02:26 * dcook      is sort of hoping the IE thing is a YUI issue..
02:25 dcook        Trying too many systems on too many computers...both virtual and real...
02:25 dcook        Note to self...use a legitimate barcode
02:24 dcook        Or maybe I'm j ust an idiot
02:24 dcook        ...
02:24 dcook        I can't get Library::CallNumber::LC on the server anytime soon so I can't check my main dev...
02:24 dcook        Well...3.12.0 and 3.12.1 at least
02:22 dcook        I'm more surprised about it not working for 3.12.x in a modern browser though :S
02:21 dcook        Yeah, IE9 seems all right for 3.8...(even emulated older versions are OK), but actual IE8...nope
02:21 dcook        I think IE9 on 3.8 is ok though
02:20 dcook        Yeah, I can't get it to work on IE8 in 3.8 either
02:20 wizzyrea     that I noted it in
02:20 wizzyrea     you are right, it doesn't seem to work on IE, but that was 3.8
02:19 dcook        But it works on master in IceWeasel on Debian...
02:19 dcook        That's in Chrome on Windows...
02:18 dcook        Is it just me or does adding items to batches in the Label Creator not work in 3.12.1?
02:03 dcook        Bleargh...
01:56 dcook        ie--
01:56 dcook        Mmm no error messages...that's lovely
01:55 dcook        ie--
01:42 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
00:28 dcook        rangi++
00:28 dcook        magnuse++