Time Nick Message 00:39 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10666: (follow-up) really fix the daily quotes test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6f903198cf427b9e4c9f8ad89fef97518998a09> 00:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #43 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 00:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #1364 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1362 1 day 0 hr ago) 01:19 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #43: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/43/ 01:19 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10666: (follow-up) really fix the daily quotes test 01:19 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Daily quotes tests are failing 01:41 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10663: QA Followup: Typo in comment in renewscript <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=240520c2f925a4e9235628f06a0bdd15c99dfa80> 01:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #44 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 01:44 rangi dcook: http://catatonichic.tumblr.com/post/58372671373/moment-of-sen-cos-australians-are-like 01:45 dcook Hmm? 01:46 * dcook takes a gander 01:46 dcook LOL 01:47 dcook I do like about the "car" thing all the time. 01:47 dcook As for being a more evil version...if the news is anything to go by... 01:47 rangi :) 01:47 dcook Ack. "I do think about the 'car' thing all the time."* 01:50 dcook I think my Canadian accent gets stronger by the day living here 01:50 dcook It's like I pepper "eh" into as many conversations as possible just to assert the fact that I'm from the land of moose and polar bears. 01:50 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBG8UtgD0m8 01:50 dcook Actually, maybe I should say poutine. They have moose and polar bears in the US too. 01:51 dcook But they have poutine in Ouagadougou too, I think... 01:51 rangi heh 01:51 dcook Although I think it's a Québec guy running the place, so I think it still counts as Canadian :p 01:53 dcook hehe. I <3 Flight of the Conchords 01:53 dcook One of the my former real estate folks sounded exactly like Rhys Darby actually... 01:54 rangi heh 01:59 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 01:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1364: FIXED in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1364/ 01:59 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 10666: (follow-up) really fix the daily quotes test 01:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Daily quotes tests are failing 01:59 rangi yay! 02:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #1365 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 02:04 dcook hehe 02:04 dcook http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/e980969a10f711e2ad6622000a1fab12_6.jpg 02:04 dcook http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/c0d2693a10f711e2827612313814176c_6.jpg 02:04 rangi hehe yeah, tosca is cool 02:04 dcook Very cool it seems! 02:04 dcook I'm a bit jealous.. 02:05 dcook They actually filmed a surprising amount of Supernatural at UBC 02:06 dcook I've only seen the first few seasons but there were quite a few "OMG that's the Koerner Library! I never borrow books from there because I'm a library student and we don't actually use the library but that's a stone's throw from our department! Ahhh!" 02:06 dcook And such.. 02:07 dcook Also Misha Collins is just hilarious 02:07 rangi heh 02:18 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #44: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/44/ 02:18 jenkins_koha Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10663: QA Followup: Typo in comment in renewscript 02:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Holds never block renewals 02:21 dcook Mmm debugging fines...fun 02:22 dcook Has anyone else encountered situations where the grace period doesn't appear to have an effect? 02:31 rangi i think there was a bug about that 02:32 rangi fucking hell 02:32 mtj wooah 02:32 mtj still goinggg... 02:32 dcook ? 02:33 mtj big quake 02:33 dcook Ahh 02:33 dcook Hope all is well... 02:34 rangi http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/newzealand/2013p613797 02:34 rangi that was a 6 02:34 rangi only 11 km down 02:34 mtj i missed the last lot, (was in sth island) 02:35 trea yikes 02:35 ibeardslee ouch 02:35 rangi you feel that one trea ? 02:36 rangi wizzyrea was out of the building 02:36 trea yeah, felt it here in newtown 02:36 trea pretty wibbly 02:36 mtj i've been curious since, to experience a 6 - now i have! 02:37 rangi lots of sirens 02:37 rangi i think that did some damage 02:37 dcook 6.9 in the end? 02:38 mtj yeah, good spotting dcook 02:38 rangi revised up 02:38 rangi and down again 02:38 dcook Back down yeah 02:38 dcook What does that mean? 02:39 trea lordy 02:39 rangi http://geonet.org.nz/ 02:39 rangi its gonna go all evening 02:40 rangi im going for a walk 02:40 trea solid plan 02:44 mtj so far, 30 quakes from seddon today -> http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/all 02:45 dcook That's intense :( 02:45 mtj oops, not all from seddon 02:49 rangi or not 02:49 rangi i just remembered stuff will probably fall on my head in the cbd 02:51 ibeardslee that is a good choice rangi 02:57 rangi ok, im officially over this 02:57 rangi i might just go down a few levels 02:58 dcook [off] http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/guilty-plea-to-murder-on-parole-20130815-2rzk7.html 02:58 cjh rangi: spare desks on level 4, no couch though. 02:59 dcook [off] Yet another example of how the Australian justice system doesn't seem to care one ounce about protecting its citizens from criminals. 03:07 mtj peeps, any preference… DOM or GRS1 for Koha? 03:07 mtj any definitive opinions? 03:07 dcook Mmm 03:08 dcook I've used GRS1 the most, but the idea of DOM makes a lot of sense to me 03:08 dcook I'm not sure what the pros and cons are though really 03:09 mtj yeah, me neither 03:10 mtj from the zebra manual… 'The DOM XML record model is experimental, and its inner workings might change in future releases of the Zebra Information Server.' 03:10 mtj http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/record-model-domxml.html 03:12 mtj so, i guess the big question is… is DOM stable enough for prod Koha usage? 03:12 trea there's another 03:12 mtj yeah 03:12 mtj anyhoo... i might send an email to the dev-list about that 03:13 dcook Good idea :) 03:13 mtj ...see if i can get a conversation started about peoples DOM experiences 03:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1365: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1365/ 03:14 jenkins_koha Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10663: QA Followup: Typo in comment in renewscript 03:14 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Holds never block renewals 03:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #1366 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 03:16 mtj i seemed to get better results with DOM, for importing glitchy MARC records 03:16 mtj when i did some testing waaay back 03:17 mtj ...but apart from that, i'm not aware of any pros/cons between the two options! 03:18 * dcook shrugs 03:19 mtj speed, stability, better search results, different memory/disk footprints, etc... 03:19 dcook Actually, what is the issue with GSR1.. 03:19 dcook GRS1* 03:20 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing 03:21 dcook I think DOM might have a better "any" index 03:22 dcook Plus, there is this weird thing when you're "melm"ing where indexing gets weird if you melm a complete field into one set of indexes and its subfields into different indexes.. 03:22 dcook Not sure if that's an issue with DOM 03:22 dcook But it is with GRS1 03:23 mtj hmm, too hard basket 03:23 dcook hehe 03:23 dcook I would say more like the "too much time" basket ;) 03:23 mtj if it aint broke, dont fsck it 03:24 dcook Well, "broke" is a relative term :p 03:24 dcook I suppose suboptimal doesn't count as broke though 03:24 dcook Well, except when it does 03:24 * dcook wishes that we could all split into multiple individuals temporarily just to get more work done 03:25 dcook I can only find two bugs in regards to fine grace periods and I don't think either is relevant to this issue.. 03:25 dcook I want to put this in the "too hard" basket :p 03:26 dcook Mais, c'est la vie.. 03:28 dcook Let's see if I can reproduce this thing.. 03:28 rangi https://twitter.com/hookedonline/status/368210888383545344 03:43 mtj taihape and levin too 03:55 dcook Ahh, bloody circ rules... 03:55 dcook Or rather... 03:55 dcook Bloody "GetIssuingRule" sub... 03:55 dcook Actually... 03:55 dcook No, it's bad config... 03:56 dcook Bad data wins the day again... 03:56 * dcook hopes 03:57 dcook \o/ 04:00 dcook Dinger...explains one problem but not the other... 04:10 dcook Frak me.. 04:23 dcook rangi: It started with bug 8939. I didn't notice it in Bugzilla though, because the default search doesn't include "Closed" items 04:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8939 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, CLOSED FIXED, Fines Charged During Grace Period 04:24 dcook Might be worth including Closed items in the bugzilla search? 04:24 dcook Although that might make too many results come back :/ 04:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1366: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1366/ 04:48 gmcharlt @quote random 04:48 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #193: "<libsysguy> I don't always reterminate....but when I do the terminator is near a stud // * wizzyrea considers if this is a real statement or something to do with the movie." (added by slef at 02:56 PM, March 22, 2012) 04:59 dcook @quote random 04:59 huginn` dcook: Quote #98: "drulm: TGIF=Thank Galen It's Friday" (added by wizzyrea at 07:15 PM, October 08, 2010) 04:59 dcook hehe 04:59 dcook Indeed 05:23 dcook wahanui: I think it's nearly that time 05:23 wahanui dcook: huh? 05:23 dcook Sounds like it 05:23 wahanui i think Sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;) 05:23 dcook Ouais, totes 06:13 dcook Acquisitions is like black magic 06:13 * dcook waves to cait and cait1 :p 06:14 cait1 oh 06:14 cait1 hi 06:14 wahanui hola, cait1 06:15 * magnuse waves 06:16 magnuse wow, look at the library dropdown on this one: http://190.27.214.86/ :-) 06:17 dcook Wowzers... 06:17 dcook National Library of Columbia? 06:20 magnuse spanish i snot one of my strong points, sadly 06:50 magnuse woohoo, new translations! oh no, new translations... 06:51 cait1 lol 06:51 cait1 getting excited about translations? :) 06:51 cait1 dcook: not sure it's the national library - looks more like a national catalog for public libraries 06:51 cait1 seems the national library is using dynix 06:51 magnuse well, mostly they are a drag, but it is also a sign of koha never standing still , so it's good too... 06:52 cait1 [off] http://www.bibliotecanacional.gov.co/ 06:53 dcook Mmm, I see 06:53 dcook Must just be administrated by them perhaps 06:53 * dcook is looking at bugs on a late Friday afternoon 06:53 dcook Bad idea, me! Bad idea! 06:54 dcook 7 minutes until beer o'clock 06:54 magnuse dcook++ 06:54 dcook Not good to go into the weekend with bugs on the brain 06:54 magnuse postpone beer and fix one of the bugs - perfect way to end the week! :-) 06:55 dcook I think my wife would disagree with you on that one :p 06:55 magnuse but can you be certain? 06:56 magnuse ooh, all the strings for opac start with "%s %s %s%s%sKoha online%s catalog ›" - such fun! 06:57 magnuse i wonder if it would have terrible impact on performance if we put that bit in an include... 07:05 magnuse done 07:26 dcook Hmm, I don't think our OAI-PMH setDescriptions are necessarily being formed correctly... 07:26 dcook You should be able to embed XML within a setDescription. Not just plain text :/ 07:32 * magnuse hopes everyone in wellington are ok http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/wellington/statistics 07:34 * BobB and Irma add our best wishes to our NZ colleagues 08:00 drojf good morning #koha 08:00 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:00 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 20.1°C (9:43 AM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 08:01 rangi at home now, nothing broken 08:01 magnuse rangi: yay 08:01 magnuse good to hear 08:01 magnuse moin drojf 08:01 magnuse @wunder boo 08:01 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 08:01 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:01 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0°C (9:30 AM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 08:02 magnuse @wunder konstanz 08:02 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 19.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 08:02 drojf hei magnuse 08:02 drojf hi rangi, what did you do? 08:03 rangi http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/newzealand/2013p613797 <-- that 08:03 rangi then also 08:03 cait1 morning drojf and rangi 08:03 rangi http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/drums/wellington 08:03 rangi it hasnt exactly been calm since that 6.6 08:03 drojf woah again? 08:03 drojf :/ 08:03 rangi plenty of above 5 08:04 magnuse wow that drum picture is pretty scary 08:05 drojf indeed 08:06 rangi now is probably not the time to bug 10663 08:06 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Holds never block renewals 08:06 rangi but seriously, if being clever means you break functionality, then slow down the fix of that functionality, im totally fine with you not contributing 08:10 * rangi doesnt write that on the bug 08:10 magnuse rangi++ 08:11 * cait1 has given up :( 08:11 cait1 I am really frustrated about the path this takes. 08:12 marcelr hi koha 08:12 marcelr any clever people out here? :) 08:17 magnuse nah, just some people trying hard to avoid and fix regressions 08:17 marcelr that is very good 08:19 cait1 @wunder hamburg 08:19 huginn` cait1: Error: No such location could be found. 08:19 cait1 @wunder hamburg, germany 08:19 huginn` cait1: The current temperature in Hamburg Airport, Germany is 20.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 08:21 marcelr hi cait1 08:22 cait1 hi marcelr 08:22 marcelr i saw your comment about frustrating path 08:22 cait1 yes 08:23 marcelr maybe misunderstanding? 08:23 cait1 I am quite frustrated actually and this is not a good state to be 08:23 marcelr no 08:23 cait1 especially when you are on vacation. 08:23 marcelr right 08:23 marcelr you should not be here? 08:24 marcelr but is the right part not that the fix was pushed 08:28 rangi http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/felt bounce bounce 08:28 cait1 heh 08:28 rangi http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/statistics check that little graph there 08:29 rangi the map is pretty fun too 08:29 marcelr hi rangi: earthquake close? 08:30 rangi yep, a 6.6 around 2pm and about 40ish since then (6 hours) 08:30 marcelr wow 08:30 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9051982/Earthquakes-rock-central-New-Zealand 08:30 rangi no real damage tho, thank goodness for good building codes 08:31 marcelr right 08:31 cait1 yeha 08:31 cait1 can't imagine the damage we'd have here 08:31 drojf it would make room for something new ^^ 08:31 cait1 drojf: tsk 08:32 marcelr tsk is that german 08:32 cait1 just a sound of disapprovement with his comment 08:32 cait1 i like our old houses 08:33 marcelr i work for a museum :) 08:34 magnuse reminds me of a little, old lady who stayed at our b&b in wellington. she grew up in wellington, but had lived in auckland since, and now she was back for a school reunion or something. she had been visting her childhood home and it was so much smaller than she remembered it 08:34 cait1 ok, time to leave for that 8 hour train ride 08:34 marcelr bye 08:34 cait1 ... :) 08:34 magnuse she said it could be how everyone feels, but it could also be because the walls had been reinforced to withstand earthquakes 08:34 magnuse so the space inside might actually be smaller than it was 08:35 rangi :) 08:44 rangi and another one 08:44 wahanui i heard another one was moving the box with a patrons loans, holds etc to the top of the "patron details" page. They need that information all the time and have to scroll to see it. 08:44 rangi im playing guess the magnitude, im getting pretty good 08:44 rangi 5.4 08:50 magnuse poor Seddon? 08:50 rangi yeah lucky hardly anyone lives there 08:50 magnuse heh 08:55 drojf lol rangi, that sounds like a great game 10:04 magnuse good (early?) morning khall 11:22 cait2 @wunder Konstanz 11:22 huginn` cait2: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 23.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 11:22 cait2 @wunder Ellhofen, Germany 11:23 huginn` cait2: The current temperature in Besigheim-Ottmarsheim, Germany is 26.8°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 11:36 magnuse @wunder boo 11:36 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 12:35 cait hi oleonard :) 12:35 oleonard Hi cait and everyone else too 12:37 oleonard I love this one: http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/58410506386/working-on-koha-kohails 12:37 magnuse lol 12:39 cait lol 12:41 cait me too 12:45 cait oleonard: so how was the week? :) 12:45 oleonard Unbearable. Never leave us again! 12:45 jcamins oleonard++ # JS book link 12:47 oleonard Joubu and I seem to be getting different results from the "add multiple" button on additem.pl 12:48 cait hi tcohen 12:48 * cait puts a big bowl of cookies in the middle of #koha 12:48 nengard oooo 12:49 nengard nom nom nom 12:49 tcohen_ ñam ñam 12:49 tcohen_ hi cait 12:49 cait oleonard: lol 12:50 Joubu oleonard: You have n + 1 items created ? 12:50 oleonard Yes. 12:50 oleonard I just retested twice. 12:50 cait i am trying not to - but evil forces want me to go on a 3 week vacation without internet. 12:50 Joubu oleonard: hum... So I will retest! 12:50 oleonard cait: Very evil forces 12:51 jcamins cait: you have another three weeks of vacation left? 12:51 * jcamins is so jealous! 12:51 * magnuse thinks cait should just. do. it. 12:52 cait jcamins: i think i have another 25 days left :( 12:53 jcamins Nice! 12:53 oleonard So much vacation! This must be why Germany's economy is so terrible. Oh, wait... 12:54 cait maybe a little less but not much 12:54 cait we get quite a lot of vacation around here it seems 12:54 cait oleonard: hm from what i remember it was a total of the number entered for me... the one in the form + n-1 or just n total 12:54 cait does that make sense? 12:58 oleonard If I put "2" in the field, I end up with three new items 13:01 magnuse i just tested "Add multiple items" on http://head.bibkat.no:8080/ (demo/demo) and it works as expected for me 13:01 magnuse i had 1 item, added 3 and ended up with 4 13:02 magnuse i had 0 items, added 3 and ended up with 3 13:04 magnuse phew, looks like the wellington region is calming down again http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/drums/wellington 13:08 Joubu magnuse: I don't understand: http://head.bibkat.no:8080/cgi-bin/koha/cataloguing/additem.pl?biblionumber=2 13:08 Joubu There are 2 items, I enter 2 in the "number of items to add" 13:09 cait magnuse: that sounds about right t ome 13:10 magnuse Joubu: and? 13:10 oleonard I started with a new record, created the biblio, filled out the add item form, entered "3" for multiple copies, ended up with 4. 13:10 Joubu magnuse: ok :) I have read it too fast... 13:11 Joubu magnuse: so you have the same behavior as me 13:12 magnuse Joubu: yeah, it works for me 13:16 oleonard I'm now I'm the crazy one :| 13:16 oleonard Especially judging from my typing :| 13:17 cait hm i would have expected 3 total, wondering now if i just never noticed 13:18 cait custom javasript? ;) 13:18 oleonard Oh yes, my "add one more copy than you asked for" JavaScript! :P 13:18 cait hehe 13:20 cait couldn't resist asking :) 13:20 cait is there a difference mybe starting from a new record without any items and one with items? 13:23 magnuse i tried both, and they both worked as expected 13:23 magnuse is there a difference for odd and even numbers? 13:23 cait translated and untranslated templates? 13:23 cait hm. 13:23 cait oleonard: looks like you ARE the crazy one :) 13:23 oleonard magnuse are you testing on master or 3.12.x? 13:24 cait hm i think tere are prefs on what to duplicate when using the duplicate button, maybe there are other prefs that could create a mess here? 13:24 cait something in the logs? 13:25 magnuse oleonard: master 13:26 oleonard Okay, I do see an error in my log. Is it related? additem.pl: No max barcode (C4::Barcodes=HASH(0xb190178)->autoBarcode format) found. Using initial value. 13:26 magnuse works for me on 3.12.x too 13:27 magnuse oleonard: that does sound suspicious! 13:28 cait hm at least that doesn't look nice 13:29 oleonard magnuse: What is your autobarcode setting? 13:32 oleonard I've tried with it set to incremental and EAN13 and I still get the same problem. But I see that on ByWater's demo it works the way you guys see it. 13:32 cait oleonard: maybe try turning off autobarcode for a test? 13:32 cait hm hope to make sense, i think i might be lagging 13:32 oleonard It's got to be something on my system. 13:33 cait makes it an interesting bug i would say 13:33 magnuse autoBarcode = (not automatically) 13:34 magnuse i have to be off in a sec, feel free to test 3.12.x on http://demo-admin.bibkat.no/ (demo/demo) 13:34 cait bye magnuse 13:34 cait enjoy the pizza :) 13:36 oleonard Thanks for testing magnuse 13:38 * oleonard fills everyone's demos with books on VBScript 13:38 magnuse w00t! 13:39 magnuse we should have a page on the wiki for diagnosing how an installation was made, with links to relevant update info 13:40 magnuse "if there is a file at /x/y/z it is a git install, see INSTALL.debian for update instructions" 13:40 magnuse that sort of thing 13:41 cait oleonard++ 13:41 cait oleonard: why not perl books? :) 13:41 * magnuse wishes #koha a good pizzaday! 13:42 oleonard cait: Because I'm not sane this morning 13:51 cait oh, i see 13:52 * cait sends more cookies in oleonards direction 13:52 cait oleonard: i owe you lots of cookies for taking on all the bugs i filed 13:57 gmcharlt @quote random 13:57 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #270: "oleonard hopes you can't catch data-lung from working in data mines" (added by gmcharlt at 04:48 PM, August 14, 2013) 13:58 oleonard An old classic. 13:58 druthb :P 13:59 druthb @quote random 13:59 huginn` druthb: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009) 13:59 druthb Now *there* is an old classic. 13:59 gmcharlt heh 13:59 druthb I don't miss that jdavidb guy, though. Not a bit. He was big trouble. 14:02 oleonard But that owen? What a dashing young lad. So fresh, so naive. 14:03 druthb yes, indeed. Very dashing. Very young. 14:04 druthb I hear he's still quite handsome. 14:05 * cait heard that too 14:16 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10715 - MARC21 007 Plugin Editor doesn't load position 01 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=73ac970f734b0f04fff5561aa35bb9d9d47aa943> 14:25 cait @wunder Konstanz 14:25 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Weingarten, Germany is 24.1°C (4:25 PM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 14:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #45 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 14:30 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10615 - Move saved reports action items into dropdown menu <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0648d2883d195806eda5a7b91b1b0d6eee7dd87a> 14:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #1367 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:42 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10703: Document borrower_files table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09e802c7933073cd98040155b02898ab79739b3a> / Bug 10703: Document quotes table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6823c745371a115d5bec98beb9d10b59e188c9fe> / Bug 10703: Add db documentation for biblioimages table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=801d8237d80d70 14:52 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10716: fix JavaScript error on basket groups page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4d8144efdcbbf30d649264495f151e8b6fd7594> 15:00 druthb @wunder 77098 15:00 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Morningside Place, Houston, Texas is 29.5°C (9:55 AM CDT on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: -999%. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling). 15:01 druthb Hm. Think the hygrometer is broken. 15:03 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #45: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/45/ 15:03 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 10715 - MARC21 007 Plugin Editor doesn't load position 01 15:03 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10615 - Move saved reports action items into dropdown menu 15:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10715 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , MARC21 007 Plugin Editor doesn't load position 01 15:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move saved reports action items into dropdown menu 15:03 jenkins_koha Starting build #46 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 15:06 oleonard @wunder 45701 15:06 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 21.1°C (10:31 AM EDT on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). 15:07 oleonard Unseasonably cool here. 15:07 rambutan @wunder 64507 15:07 huginn` rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 19.0°C (10:07 AM CDT on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 15:07 rambutan Unseasonably cool here. 15:11 tcohen forall . <emptyset> . sentence => true, right? 15:12 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10481: (follow-up) fix typo in POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e84b1217afc74f490423538b7b8808e3d34513a> / Bug 10481: Unit tests for C4::Members::AddEnrolmentFeeIfNeeded <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c8efaf3f9b14caf5f6512149d5fcd957bd3e487> / Bug 10481: FIX No enrollment fee when changing patron category. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k 15:39 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #46: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/46/ 15:39 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10664: fix error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency 15:39 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10664 [QA Followup] - fix error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency 15:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10703: Add db documentation for biblioimages table 15:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10703: Document quotes table 15:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10703: Document borrower_files table 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10664 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Software error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency 15:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10716: fix JavaScript error on basket groups page 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10703 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , add/update database documentation 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10716 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The booksellers template generates a JS error 15:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #47 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 15:42 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: bug 5825: (follow-up) consult item-level_itypes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=484b7ec7320b73519def7ef25487c942d93f5059> / bug 5825: (follow-up) add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=572d46e6395123293c1b5c86055a527ab5c647da> / Bug 5825 - Add Item Type column to Holds Queue report <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h 15:43 nengard hey what patch changed the display of the label creator tool? the buttons at the top used to have pull downs ... now they don't 15:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #361 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #361: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/361/ 15:44 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add new reports 'actions' button 15:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1367: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1367/ 15:44 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 10715 - MARC21 007 Plugin Editor doesn't load position 01 15:44 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10615 - Move saved reports action items into dropdown menu 15:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10715 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , MARC21 007 Plugin Editor doesn't load position 01 15:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move saved reports action items into dropdown menu 15:45 gmcharlt nengard: bug 9636 15:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9636 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Replace YUI buttons on labels pages with Bootstrap 15:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #1368 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:46 nengard meh 15:46 gmcharlt you may (or may not) find a comment in the commit description funny 15:46 nengard OMG 15:46 nengard I'm mentioned 15:46 nengard I don't care about the images actually - i'm fine with that 15:46 nengard I just don't like the way it works now 15:47 nengard I never used the links on the left - so now i have to retrain myself 16:08 * cait waves from another train 16:12 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10653: (follow-up) minor tweaks to RotatingCollections tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=40aa42f31f10acad92da5f2c57319f049fba9289> / Bug 10653: add unit tests for C4::RotatingCollections.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12061f44beb46709e03d09f7ff61551fa9297b2e> 16:15 cait everyone gone for the weekend already? :) 16:16 * gmcharlt raises head from the patch pushing button 16:16 gmcharlt cait: say what? ;) 16:16 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #47: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/47/ 16:16 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10481: FIX No enrollment fee when changing patron category. 16:16 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10481: Unit tests for C4::Members::AddEnrolmentFeeIfNeeded 16:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10481: (follow-up) fix typo in POD 16:16 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10481 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , No enrollment fee when changing patron category 16:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 5825 - Add Item Type column to Holds Queue report 16:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5825: (follow-up) add regression test 16:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5825: (follow-up) consult item-level_itypes 16:16 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add Item Type column to Holds Queue report 16:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #48 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 16:16 cait gmcharlt: hm? :) 16:17 cait ok, i see, everyone is just working - but me 16:17 * cait goes back to read some bug mails 16:20 * tcohen thinks cait deserves an intervention 16:21 cait huh? 16:21 tcohen do s/hat/koha/ on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTVsnK8RGvs 16:22 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8887: only display desired result when doing exact syspref search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9bc53a0fccc3b673dca43791ebfcb53fd6e0a9ee> / Bug 9238 - make fund pull down say 'select fund', not 'select budget' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbe233a0e5d86975c28918d8b7023b70bdd29d38> 16:25 cait tcohen: internet connection is too bad for youtube i am afraid 16:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10642: fix inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::RotatingCollections.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1b3e4ab6b432844e076e1eb0662a9c04a5f412e> 16:42 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10686: Remove fields from searches for highlighting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0ea3be36c8e7ae6dc6f28820b1c26fc909d9039> 16:52 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #48: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/48/ 16:52 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10653: add unit tests for C4::RotatingCollections.pm 16:52 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10653: (follow-up) minor tweaks to RotatingCollections tests 16:52 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9238 - make fund pull down say 'select fund', not 'select budget' 16:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10653 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT : C4::RotatingCollections.pm needs unit tests. 16:52 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9238 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , fund pull down says 'select budget' 16:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #49 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 16:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1368: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1368/ 16:58 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10664: fix error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency 16:58 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10664 [QA Followup] - fix error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency 16:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10703: Add db documentation for biblioimages table 16:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10703: Document quotes table 16:58 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10703: Document borrower_files table 16:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10664 normal, P4, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Software error in overdue_notices.pl if there is no active currency 16:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10716: fix JavaScript error on basket groups page 16:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10481: FIX No enrollment fee when changing patron category. 16:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10481: Unit tests for C4::Members::AddEnrolmentFeeIfNeeded 16:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10481: (follow-up) fix typo in POD 16:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10703 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , add/update database documentation 16:58 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 5825 - Add Item Type column to Holds Queue report 16:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5825: (follow-up) add regression test 16:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10716 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The booksellers template generates a JS error 16:58 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5825: (follow-up) consult item-level_itypes 16:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10481 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , No enrollment fee when changing patron category 16:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5825 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add Item Type column to Holds Queue report 16:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #83 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:04 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10736: show duplicate invoice warning on second invoice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75f23ba7925d9a331cb221823d686c541591cbcf> / Bug 10028: fix how ModReceiveOrder() calls NewOrder() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=29689de399a8927547c36e53461c7766ecc604f0> 17:17 oleonard Is "I am waiting for the feature" actually rude, or just unintentionally rude? 17:18 cait hm depends on the context maybe, where did you see that? 17:18 oleonard Bug 10708 17:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , make fine receipt customizable 17:22 cait ah bugzilla... 17:22 cait i think i would opt to see it as a +1 for the idea and not think too much about it 17:23 cait i am trying to lower my frustration levels :) 17:25 oleonard Good strategy 17:28 cait oleonard: how is the work on the new opac theme going? do you need more testers? 17:28 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #49: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/49/ 17:28 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 8887: only display desired result when doing exact syspref search 17:28 jenkins_koha * root: Bug 10642: fix inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::RotatingCollections.pm 17:28 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10686: Remove fields from searches for highlighting 17:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8887 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Search preferences: Strange behaviour with exact matches (default instead of custom favicon used, displays to much results) 17:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10642 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::RotatingCollections.pm 17:28 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10686 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Fielded searches confuse highlighter 17:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #50 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 17:28 oleonard cait: Yes. And in fact I need to email Daniel to get a note included in the newsletter 17:29 cait ok :) 17:29 cait remind me how to best test it? i could try and ask the coworkers to take a look maybe 17:31 cait hm i will look for the bug 17:31 oleonard http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/ 17:34 cait thx :) 17:34 cait all findings on the main bug? 17:36 oleonard Bug 10309 17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap 17:37 cait ok 17:37 cait sorry - bad internet connection, adding to my todo list 17:37 cait meaning bit hard to look things up right now 17:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #83: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/83/ 17:39 jenkins_koha * Mirko Tietgen: Bug 10621: use correct from-address for subscription alert emails 17:39 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10463: ensure that Quote of the Day feature selects random quotes 17:39 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10644: add unit tests for ClassSource.pm 17:39 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10644: fix typos in test descriptions 17:39 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10666: avoid random failures of Daily quotes tests 17:39 jenkins_koha * root: Bug 10643: fix inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::ClassSource.pm 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10621 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Pushed to Stable , Subscription alert emails have wrong from-address 17:39 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10644: (follow-up) remove inadvertant dependence on Perl 5.14 17:39 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 10712: Save missing config variables to install log 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10463 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Quote of the day feature not selecting random quotes 17:39 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10663: tests for CanBookBeRenewed 17:39 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10663: Follow-up - Unit tests for CanBookBeRenewed 17:39 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10663: (follow-up) set circ policy for circulation tests 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10644 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Stable , C4::ClassSource.pm needs unit tests 17:39 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10663: restore ability of active hold requests to block renewal 17:39 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10666: (follow-up) really fix the daily quotes test 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10666 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Daily quotes tests are failing 17:39 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10663: QA Followup: Typo in comment in renewscript 17:39 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10362: ensure that all messages and alerts are shown upon checkin 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10643 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Stable , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::ClassSource.pm 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10712 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Some values not saved in koha install log 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Holds never block renewals 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10362 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , on return with reserve or transfer the alerts are not shown 17:39 cait oleonard++ 17:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1369 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:44 cait gmcharlt++ and tcohen++ :) 17:46 tcohen kde 4.11.0 installed, restarting session to try ;) 18:03 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #50: STILL UNSTABLE in 35 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/50/ 18:03 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10028: fix how ModReceiveOrder() calls NewOrder() 18:03 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10736: show duplicate invoice warning on second invoice 18:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10028 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , ModReceiveOrder works unexpectedly 18:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10736 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , AcqWarnOnDuplicateInvoice doesn't warn for duplications - just triplications+ 18:05 oleonard Bye everyone, have a good weekend. 18:07 cait bye all :) - bbl with real wifi :) 18:19 drojf khall++ 18:22 druthb drojf! 18:22 druthb ;-) 18:23 drojf druthb! :) 18:47 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10610: sort sysprefs.sql by syspref names <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e94e37969825633116093a24dc7fc0afb5975648> 18:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1369: SUCCESS in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1369/ 18:53 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10653: add unit tests for C4::RotatingCollections.pm 18:53 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10653: (follow-up) minor tweaks to RotatingCollections tests 18:53 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9238 - make fund pull down say 'select fund', not 'select budget' 18:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10653 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT : C4::RotatingCollections.pm needs unit tests. 18:53 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 8887: only display desired result when doing exact syspref search 18:53 jenkins_koha * root: Bug 10642: fix inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::RotatingCollections.pm 18:53 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10686: Remove fields from searches for highlighting 18:53 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10028: fix how ModReceiveOrder() calls NewOrder() 18:53 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10736: show duplicate invoice warning on second invoice 18:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9238 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , fund pull down says 'select budget' 18:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8887 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Search preferences: Strange behaviour with exact matches (default instead of custom favicon used, displays to much results) 18:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10642 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , Inappropriate uses of $sth->finish() in C4::RotatingCollections.pm 18:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10686 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Fielded searches confuse highlighter 18:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10028 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , ModReceiveOrder works unexpectedly 18:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10736 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , AcqWarnOnDuplicateInvoice doesn't warn for duplications - just triplications+ 18:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1370 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:56 drojf cait! 18:56 drojf training? 18:56 cait hm? 18:56 cait drojf! 18:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #51 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE) 18:59 druthb cait! 18:59 * druthb hugs her. 18:59 cait druthb! 18:59 gmcharlt cait! again! 18:59 cait yes! 18:59 gmcharlt :) 18:59 druthb gmcharlt! :D ! 18:59 cait gmcharlt! 18:59 wahanui somebody said gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology. 19:00 cait heh 19:00 gmcharlt druthb! 19:00 cait but finally home :) 19:00 druthb wahanui: botsnack Skittles 19:00 wahanui :) 19:01 cait it's funny - i have seen that they sell skittles here now too 19:01 * drojf hides 19:01 cait i think it#s still quite new 19:01 cait drojf: don't worry :) 19:01 * druthb orders a slingshot for cait 19:02 cait druthb: berlin might still be a bit far 19:02 druthb :P 19:02 gmcharlt that entirely depends on how big the rubber band is! ;) 19:02 cait lol 19:03 cait hi bgkriegel 19:05 pianohacker we just need slingshot guy now 19:06 pianohacker "today, I'm going to use biceps the size of coffee cans and a gigantic slingshot to shoot a bag of skittles through a tree and all the way to berlin" 19:06 druthb http://www.youtube.com/user/JoergSprave 19:08 drojf i bet the berlin wall was actually built because of something like that 19:09 cait lol 19:10 druthb wahanui: berlin wall is a former structure intended to protect citizens from slingshot attack. 19:10 wahanui OK, druthb. 19:10 druthb :P 19:10 drojf lol 19:10 druthb slingshot is http://www.youtube.com/user/JoergSprave 19:13 bgkriegel hi cait 19:24 druthb pianohacker: Joerg Sprave (the Slingshot Channel guy) has biceps like coffee cans; I don't know where he's from, but most of Europe should be scared. He's nuts. 19:25 pianohacker yup, that's him all right 19:25 tcohen have a nice weekend fellows 19:25 pianohacker bye tchone 19:25 tcohen bye #koha 19:25 pianohacker *tcohen 19:25 cait you too tcohen :) 19:25 * pianohacker turns off the nick-scrambler, blasted thing, must have bumped the on-switch 19:26 druthb Ah, here we go…born in Dortmund, Germany, studied at Paderborn, currently lives in Kronach. 19:26 druthb Burgkunstadt. 19:26 druthb http://www.slingshotchannel.com/about.html 19:28 druthb Right smack in between drojf and cait! 19:28 * cait starts to worry 19:31 * druthb notes that his other hobbies include collecting fountain pens. Maybe I can bribe him with one of my hand-turned ones into *not* shooting at friends. 19:31 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #51: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/51/ 19:31 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 10610: sort sysprefs.sql by syspref names 19:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , sysprefs.sql is really boring to rebase 20:10 Orel Hi 20:10 wahanui que tal, Orel 20:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1370: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1370/ 20:10 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 10610: sort sysprefs.sql by syspref names 20:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , sysprefs.sql is really boring to rebase 20:10 Orel I work for a non-profit institute, and we have a shared hosting on HostGator with root access. I have no idea how can we install it. 20:10 jcamins Orel: Koha will not work on shared hosting at present. 20:10 pianohacker shared hosting with root, though 20:11 jcamins You need root access. 20:11 Orel We do have root access. 20:11 drojf :) 20:11 pianohacker what distro of Linux? 20:11 jcamins Oh, sorry. 20:11 Orel CentOS 5 20:11 * jcamins shudders. 20:11 drojf that's almost as worse as no root access *hides* 20:11 drojf as bad 20:12 drojf or worse 20:12 drojf lol 20:12 jcamins You should see if they can give you an account on a Debian server. 20:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #1371 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:12 pianohacker You'll have trouble getting the right versions of neccessary packages 20:12 pianohacker failing that, you'll want to check the versions of Perl and MySQL 20:12 pianohacker I think we require at least perl 5.10 and MySQL 5 20:13 Orel MySQL is 5.5.23 20:13 pianohacker Debian _old_stable has those, but can't assume anything with CentOS 20:13 jcamins Perl is the problem, as I recall. 20:13 Orel and Perl is 5.8.8 20:13 pianohacker ouch 20:13 jcamins Yeah, Koha won't run with anything less than Perl 5.10. 20:13 Orel I see. Thank you very much guys! 20:13 jcamins I think we bumped the requirements to 5.10 for 3.2. 20:14 drojf i hope s/he is off to switch to hosted debian ;) 20:14 pianohacker [off] My hope is that we just gave someone specific reasons to tell IT, "No shared hosting won't goddamn work" 20:15 pianohacker or reasons to tell the director why they need a small VPS :) 20:16 drojf or why free software sucks and they need to get a proprietary product that includes hosting :P 20:16 jcamins drojf: they can get a F/OSS hosted solution. :P 20:17 drojf no. FOSS is free! 20:18 jcamins [off] You know what I've been getting a lot recently? "Why would you release your new system as open source? Don't you want to make money on it?" Well, yes, but not if it means that I have to spend the rest of my career supporting generally applicable software. 20:19 pianohacker community-aided support is a fantastic thing 20:19 jcamins [off] And the customers you'd want pay for F/OSS software anyway. 20:20 pianohacker [off] Yeah, most people very quickly realize that you're not paying for the code, you're paying for someone to set it up and answer your calls when it gets borked 20:21 jcamins [off] But it's really just bizarre, because some of the people asking are people who should know better. 20:21 cait hmpf 20:22 drojf [off] i know programmers that say "i don't like FOSS, it will make me unemployed" 20:23 drojf [off] to be fair, it's only one. but the idea is fascinating 20:24 pianohacker [off] In my experience, FOSS works pays better than proprietary, actually :P 20:26 cait [off] why is this off the logs? :) 20:26 jcamins [off] In case the people who should know better happen to read the logs, I didn't want to embarrass them. 20:27 cait hm 20:33 pianohacker indexdata-- 20:34 pianohacker why does such useful code have to be so poorly written? 20:36 * wizzyrea waves 20:36 cait hi wizzyrea 20:36 cait everything ok over there? 20:36 pianohacker I hate to harp on it, I just run into so many barriers every time I deal with them... 20:37 pianohacker uh, I am of course talking about indexdata, not wizzyrea, um 20:37 wizzyrea ah yep, no big drama that I'm aware of 20:37 cait oh good :) 20:37 wizzyrea all good :) 20:37 pianohacker <_< 20:37 pianohacker hi wizzy :) 20:37 wizzyrea hallo 21:02 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:02 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.7°C (11:00 PM CEST on August 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 21:18 drojf [off] that is an amazing thread. the one with the question that shall not be asked 21:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1371: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1371/ 21:36 tcohen has there been a change in the list policy regarding recipient limit? 22:02 jcamins [off] Could've been much more amazing. It could have been "how do I install Koha version-that-doesn't-exist on Windows" with contributions from our favorite non-contributor. 22:03 cait [off] mailing list? 22:03 jcamins [off] Yeah. 22:04 jcamins [off] It wasn't actually that amazing. Honestly, I think drojf oversold it by a lot. 22:04 jcamins [off] A lot a lot. 22:04 pianohacker [off] 0/10 would not laugh at again 22:04 drojf [off] i actually meant the upgrade one 22:04 cait [off] lol 22:05 drojf [off] the one that starts with "I do not know if this question has been answered previously. " and then there is no question 22:05 drojf [off] and the hijacker followup says he has the same question. and does not ask :D 22:06 drojf [off] maybe it is only funny if you are me. and don't sleep enough. 22:10 cait [off] /me sends drojf to bed... just in case 22:28 tcohen [off] did my answer hit the list? 22:28 jcamins [off] It did, yes. 22:28 bgkriegel [off] yes 22:29 tcohen i shouldn't be answering emails on the list friday evening, I'm too positive 22:46 tcohen i've been reading the logs, is it possible that DOM is the default but we have not closed the discussion of wether it is good or not? 22:48 jcamins tcohen: no. 22:49 jcamins DOM is the default, and GRS-1 has been deprecated by IndexData for 5 years. 22:49 tcohen and our implementation/default config of DOM matches or is better than GRS-1 22:49 tcohen (the one we have for) 22:49 jcamins Even if DOM were not objectively superior, the fact that IndexData has deprecated GRS-1 means that we should be using DOM instead. 22:50 jcamins Isn't it nice when there's actually a black-and-white answer to a question? 22:52 tcohen i love it, still don't understand why it wasn't the default a while ago 22:52 tcohen (on packages) 22:53 drojf deprecated for 5 years? 22:53 tcohen i'm not complaining at all about that, just thinking if it isn't just a communication problem 22:54 drojf if it has been deprecated that long, nobody can take that seriously :D 22:54 jcamins drojf: well, yeah, there is that. 22:56 drojf i think people with custom indexes would prefer grs1 as default. but as long as they can choose… they have to pay attention to their installation. 22:57 jcamins drojf: people with custom indexes wouldn't be affected by the defaults, so I don't really see that they would care. 22:58 drojf how would they not be affected? if you customised your grs1 files but install with DOM that won't work, i suppose 23:00 drojf if you install again at all, of course 23:00 jcamins drojf: if you customized your indexes, you're going to either A) clobber them when you run the installer, or B) be asked which one you want. 23:00 jcamins Most likely the former. 23:02 tcohen we might have all that stuff on the DB and generate those files... 23:03 jcamins tcohen: that would be nice, but I don't see it happening. 23:03 drojf i was thinking of something like somebody installing koha, planning to do this afterwards http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_and_old_books and failing because the default installation will ignore the changes subsequently added to the grs1 files. 23:03 tcohen jcamins: what would u say is the most complex part of defining indexes? 23:04 jcamins drojf: you mean... someone ignoring the instructions? 23:04 jcamins tcohen: the fact that it's not a simple lookup. Indexes require a turing-complete definition language. 23:05 tcohen i know that jcamins, i was thinking more of a user interface for defining that 23:05 drojf jcamins: right, that is highly unlikely. ;) 23:05 jcamins Ah. 23:05 jcamins drojf: my point is if they're ignoring the instructions, it doesn't matter what the default is. 23:06 drojf true 23:07 drojf oh, i never really read that thing 23:07 drojf :D 23:08 jcamins Right, see, changing the default wouldn't have helped you at all. :P 23:08 drojf lol