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00:29 * peter slaps clrh around a bit with a large fishbot
00:42 dcook IE--
00:43 jcamins IE--
00:43 dcook ITpeoplewhorefusetoupgradefromIE7--
00:43 dcook @karma ITpeoplewhorefusetoupgradefromIE7
00:44 huginn` dcook: Karma for "ITpeoplewhorefusetoupgradefromIE7" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
00:44 dcook ITpeoplewhorefusetoupgradefromIE7--
00:44 dcook Yeah, maybe one more
01:01 mtompset Greetings, dcook. You probably wanted Camel Case on that, because whorefuse can be parsed two ways that I can see. ;)
01:01 mtompset IE7 -- that would imply windows XP.
01:07 dcook I probably should've used Camel Case, but I'm sure that people will understand the original intention.
01:07 dcook Hey ya BobB
01:21 * wizzyrea is not a fan of the troutslapping
01:24 jcamins rangi: I have a question for you about memcached. It seems to me it would make sense to cache searches in memcached for, say, 5m (space permitting) so that paging would be faster, and could be served by another member of the cluster. Am I missing something?
01:25 jcamins Not that I'm proposing to implement that.
01:25 jcamins Just thinking.
01:26 rangi nope
01:26 rangi however what i would do
01:26 rangi is cache the whole resulting page
01:26 rangi ie cache opac-search.pl
01:26 rangi with the searchsrting as part of the key
01:27 rangi first thing that script does is look in cache and just print whats there, or do all the stuff, stick in cache and print
01:27 rangi maybe instead, maybe as well as just caching the search
01:28 jcamins Hmm. Makes sense.
01:37 wizzyrea whoever added opacnavright, I love you.
01:40 dcook hehe
01:40 dcook wizzyrea: Does it show on opac-main only or other pages as well?
01:41 wizzyrea opacmain only
01:41 wizzyrea but that's alright
01:41 wizzyrea well with me anyway
01:41 dcook Yeah, other pages can get pretty crowded
01:42 dcook Although it could make sense to have persistent local navigation...
01:42 dcook Well, I guess it would be global navigation potentially...
01:42 * dcook stops babbling and making no sense
01:42 wizzyrea that's what opacnav is for ;)
01:43 wizzyrea or, you can put something in opacmain
01:43 dcook That doesn't show up at the result and detail pages though
01:43 wizzyrea sorry I meant "opacheader"
01:43 dcook Mmm
01:43 wizzyrea which does.
01:43 wizzyrea example: catalog.nexpresslibrary.org
01:43 wahanui catalog.nexpresslibrary.org is all css too
01:44 dcook Yeah, I'm looking at one of our libraries now that has all its global nav up in opacheader
01:45 dcook I suppose some libraries have organizational headers that they're not allowed to tamper with though
01:46 dcook So the global nav for the whole organization goes at the top, but then they have to put all their library links on the opacnav
01:47 dcook We did make a mod that lets you keep the opacnav persistent...not sure if that's something others would necessarily find useful though
01:50 wizzyrea well you could put them in the footer too
01:50 wizzyrea I think nav-bottom does that now?
01:50 wizzyrea keeps some bit of opacnav persistent?
01:50 wizzyrea anyway there's a region for every purpose
01:51 dcook Hmm, I would think that would violate usability best practices
01:51 dcook But it's not a bad idea for a few things like "Contact us" which is more common in the footer anyway...
01:51 dcook opaccredits
01:52 dcook Actually, no, you're right. That would be a good idea.
01:52 dcook With maybe a couple exceptions
01:52 dcook But those are mostly due to other mods of ours :p
01:52 dcook Well, not just our mods...
01:52 dcook I guess anything for ILL you would want higher up
01:52 dcook But opening hours, contact us, etc...that really is more of a footer thing than a navbar thing...
01:53 wizzyrea nav right is perfect for hours/contact
01:53 dcook That wouldn't show up in search results or a detail page though, right?
01:53 wizzyrea nope. but if you wanted to list it out, navright is probably the best place for that
01:54 dcook Mmm, totes
01:54 wizzyrea if you're linking, footer's fine
02:56 rangi @later tell magnuse ping me later on, i have a working converter thing to show you
02:56 huginn` rangi: The operation succeeded.
03:07 mtompset I was wondering if anyone could confirm my reading of the C4::Search code, in that the results_hashref may have different servers, but only "biblioserver" is locally available in the koha DB. Anyone?
03:10 mtompset (I'm coming at this from opac-search.pl, because the facets for hidden items [OPACHiddenItems] still are showing)
03:14 wizzyrea http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/56230225214/you-looked-at-search-pm-didnt-you
03:14 mtompset It's not so bad if you have the patience to crawl millimeters at a time. :P
03:15 gmcharlt @later tell jcamins I'd appreciate it if you could take a look at the MARC::Charset release I just made now and let me know if any issues remain with its handling of Cyrillic
03:15 huginn` gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
03:16 * gmcharlt would pit MARC8 against C4::Search any day. I'm not entirely sure which would win the battle for funkiness
03:18 mtompset actually... not crawl millimeters at a time. It's more like "step by step" (http://youtu.be/ay6GjmiJTPM). ;)
03:23 dcook Bloody..
03:29 dcook Apparently the item editor doesn't like adding default values for hidden fields...
03:29 dcook I guess that makes a certain amount of sense..
03:31 wizzyrea are you implementing a mad scheme?
03:31 dcook Yep
03:31 wizzyrea sounds like it
03:31 wahanui i guess sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;)
03:31 wizzyrea man I wish.
03:32 dcook Alas, it's only Wednesday and 1:31
03:32 dcook Well, to be fair, it does make a certain amount of sense that the branch would never show up when in singleBranchMode
03:32 dcook After all...it can only possibly be that one branch...so why have the branch show up in all these other places?
03:33 dcook But I suppose there are times when "single" branches use other branches
03:33 dcook So it's one of this situations where you can't necessarily please everyone easily
03:33 * dcook shrugs
03:33 dcook If you hide it with jQuery, it populates the item record just fine, me thinks
03:34 dcook Yep.
03:35 wizzyrea you have to be a little careful with that
03:36 wizzyrea for what you are doing it might be fine.
03:36 wizzyrea because you actually want the value in there.
03:37 wizzyrea you know what ignore me. you'll be fine.
03:37 dcook lol
03:37 dcook I appreciate advice/warnings :)
03:37 dcook In general, I'm wary of using jQuery for this type of scenario, but I'm trying to be careful.
03:38 dcook There's never a time they'd want to edit it, so it should be all right
05:12 dcook Huh...never noticed that there wasn't a database column for the non-public item-level notes...
05:22 dcook bug 4222
05:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client
05:22 dcook Bleargh..
05:28 mtompset Well, given that I've made baby step progress (did I mention reading C4::Search is not fun, but possible?) towards an idea to fix displayed facets and counts for OPACHiddenItems, I think I'll start working towards bed.
05:28 mtompset Have a great day, #koha dcook cait wizzyrea.
05:31 dcook Hey ya cait :)
05:35 cait hi dcook
05:37 dcook cait++
05:37 cait ?
05:37 dcook I thought your comments on bug 4222 were really apt
05:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client
05:37 cait apt?
05:37 dcook Appropriate
05:37 wahanui rumour has it Appropriate is to acquire through some means or tocopythemtomakethemmyownohpleasedontbemad
05:38 dcook Maybe a better word would be...
05:38 dcook I thought your comments were very insightful :)
05:42 dcook It's a surprisingly annoying bug :/
05:53 cait ah yes it is
05:53 cait changing things like that afterwards gets pretty annoying
05:54 cait like changing archectural things... better get it right the first time
05:54 cait i think rangi might have been taking a look at it again some time ago - we could also start displaying the note from the xml subfield maybe
05:57 dcook Yeah, I was thinking of proposing a function that did that
05:58 dcook I suppose one could retrieve the framework, check if it's mapped, and then retrieve the xml subfield for that subfield code if it's not mapped
05:58 dcook That might be the easiest
05:59 dcook It could even potentially lead to more expansion of the item record, although I think we're running out of numbers and letters for that anyway
06:01 dcook I guess you'd need to have a way of telling that sub what to look for though...
06:01 dcook And nothing not hardcoded springs to mind
06:12 * magnuse waves
06:13 pastebot "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "MARC2RDF" (46 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/170
06:15 rangi just for you magnuse
06:15 rangi its valid NTriples too
06:16 magnuse awesome!!
06:16 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
06:16 rangi https://gitorious.org/koha-marc2rdf/koha-marc2rdf/blobs/master/t/Koha_MARC2RDF.t
06:16 rangi passes all my tests :)
06:16 magnuse yay!
06:16 dcook Whoa...that is cool!
06:17 rangi magnuse: https://gitorious.org/koha-marc2rdf/koha-marc2rdf/blobs/master/data/bibliographic_marc21.txt
06:17 rangi your mission is to make a normarc one
06:17 rangi :)
06:17 magnuse i know, i know... ;-)
06:17 rangi :)
06:17 rangi but for now, it should be as simple install that module
06:17 rangi make
06:17 rangi make install
06:18 rangi then in your koha
06:18 rangi (or just cp to /usr/share/koha/lib
06:18 rangi )
06:18 rangi and then a script very similair to that .t one .. that just takes a biblionumber as a param, does getmarcbiblio
06:19 rangi and prints the rdf
06:19 dcook rangi++
06:19 rangi and we have an api to get any marc record out as rdf
06:19 magnuse yup rangi++
06:19 magnuse very, very cool
06:19 magnuse creating a normarc mapping will mostly be removing things from the marc21 one i guess :-)
06:19 rangi yeah it shouldnt be too bad
06:20 rangi i guess i should write some prototype of what you can do with the rdf now
06:20 magnuse the mapping looks less expressive than the marc2rdf one, but it's way better than nothing!
06:20 magnuse hehe, yeah!
06:20 rangi well we can extend the mapping
06:21 magnuse yup
06:21 rangi ie by reading the marc2rdf one and editing the .txt
06:21 rangi should be all that is needed
06:22 rangi i guess now i have triples, and have the author
06:22 rangi i could link to viaf somehow
06:23 cait dcook: why hardcode? you have the subfield character and empty means xml - so it seems quite clear :)
06:24 dcook How do you have the subfield character?
06:25 dcook It's in the framework, but how do you point it to that subfield?
06:25 dcook I mean...it should probably always be "x" but do we know that for sure?
06:29 * magnuse wanders off to breakfast with the rest of the gang
06:50 alex_a hello
06:51 rangi magnuse: when you are back, now i have my triple, i guess i can do something like http://search.cpan.org/~tobyink/RDF-Query-Client-0.112/lib/RDF/Query/Client.pm and https://github.com/MagnusEnger/semantikoha/blob/master/templates/citedby.query
06:53 rangi actually semantikoha, with a little bit of changes, ie so it doesnt fetch the triple from the store, but makes one .. would just work i think
06:53 rangi well thats this evening sorted, as soon as the kids are in bed, im doing that :)
06:57 magnuse hehe
06:57 magnuse the way i see it, just converting marc to rdf isn't all that interesting
06:58 magnuse it gets interesting when you stick the rdf in a triplestore and start to enhance it, with things like links ti viaf, data from external sources, relations between records etc
06:58 magnuse but of course, converting to rdf is the basis for all of that
07:00 rangi yep, but you can also fetch all that on the fly too
07:00 rangi ie, i now have my triples, i can start enhancing it
07:01 rangi as a quick POC at leats
07:01 magnuse hm, not sure how you'll do that without a triplestore, but i am all ears ;-)
07:04 christophe_c hello #koha
07:04 magnuse bonjour christophe_c
07:04 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:05 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
07:05 magnuse @wunder boo
07:05 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 14, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
07:05 rangi well presumably you dont store the entire internet in your triple store right, you store triples, query to find them, query other triplestores to find connected information right?
07:05 christophe_c bonjour magnuse ;-)
07:05 * rangi may be on the totally wrong track
07:06 rangi but we have our triples already, so dont need to query our triple store to find it
07:06 rangi we just have to query others to find out more
07:07 rangi im totally open to being told thats totally wrong, im still learning about this stuff :)
07:07 rangi but now i have to put the kids to bed, will be back later
07:07 magnuse yeah, but you know, "crap in, crap out" marc converted to rdf still contains precious few interesting identifiers
07:08 magnuse so to be able to query other sources on the fly, you might want to say "this author is the the same as this author on viaf" and unless you want to hardcode that you need to store that info somewhere
07:40 rangi hmm, and there is no way to do that programatically eh? you have to manually do it
07:40 magnuse well, you can search for names, but that is error prone of course
07:40 rangi mein gott marc has held libraries back so far
07:40 magnuse it has!!
07:41 rangi its almost unrecoverable
07:41 magnuse yeah
07:41 magnuse we got a lot of catching up to do
07:41 rangi yep about 15 years
07:42 magnuse the good thing is, once you connect your local author id/uri to a viaf uri, you can load the viaf data for that person, and then you have high quality identifiers/links to other interesting sources
07:42 rangi *nod*
07:42 magnuse hm, there is a norwegian project called "rådata nå" that took all the authors in bibsys and linked them to interesting stuff, let me see if i can dig up some links...
07:43 magnuse http://www.bibsys.no/files/out/linked_data/autreg/index.html
07:43 rangi cool
07:45 rangi well with a couple more lines, you could easily use this to convert your whole db, and stick it in a triplestore
07:46 magnuse yup
07:46 rangi and then begin enriching it
07:46 magnuse and we could update the triplestore whenever a record is updated, the same way we do it for zebra
07:46 rangi which at the very least
07:47 rangi would mean every koha could be a sparql endpoint
07:47 magnuse here's the final report of the radatana project: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a0mBNdKPBMOGjhDYhfh5oqJMtR8if6ifHr2mJ_PGLio/edit?hl=en_US i have not read it, but it should contain some interesting bits and pieces
07:47 rangi i know that the waitaki library have a really good vertical file of info about Janet Frame
07:48 rangi which could enrich other catalogues
07:48 rangi cool
07:48 magnuse yup, now we're talking ;-)
07:48 rangi and yes, we could easily update the triplestore when we update zebra
07:49 magnuse that would be awesome
07:49 rangi you know what would be cool
07:49 rangi when you go to a record
07:49 magnuse lots of things! :-)
07:49 rangi you could say, search for author
07:49 rangi and it gives you a list
07:50 rangi and you could say, this one
07:50 rangi and it updates the triple with that info
07:50 magnuse yup!
07:50 rangi ie, every time a librarian views a record, if it hasnt got a link to an author in viaf, there is a little button to click
07:50 magnuse yeah, that would be cool indeed
07:52 rangi we could even do
07:52 rangi sqarql.koha-community.org
07:52 rangi like the ratings site
07:52 rangi where you can push your enriched triples to
07:52 magnuse what would live there?
07:52 magnuse ah yes, that is an intersting idea
07:53 magnuse aggregate all the enrichments
07:53 rangi *nod*
07:53 rangi then you could search that by say isbn
07:53 rangi and get the enriched triples
07:53 rangi copy cataloguing, the modern way :)
07:54 magnuse yeah!
07:54 rangi show that we can do away with marc
07:54 magnuse it's really cool to think in that direction, so that we do not end up with every library doing the same work as every other library
07:55 rangi yeah exactly
07:55 magnuse and we could build the infrastructure right into koha
07:55 magnuse to make it dead simple to collaborate
07:55 rangi exactly
07:55 rangi a 'push this' button
07:56 magnuse yup
08:10 magnuse @quote add <rangi> mein gott marc has held libraries back so far
08:10 huginn` magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
08:11 magnuse @quote add <rangi> mein gott marc has held libraries back so far
08:11 huginn` magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
08:11 magnuse gah
08:11 magnuse hiya cait and Viktor
08:12 Viktor Hi magnuse!
08:13 rangi hi Viktor
08:13 Viktor Hi rangi . And fait And all wonderful people of the Koha community :)
08:13 Viktor cait
08:14 Viktor (dang autocorrect)
08:14 cait hi Viktor
08:15 Viktor Btw Is it a known error that the bar "Log into your account" is in the middle of the page in the CCSR theme on iPhone?
08:15 magnuse moin drojf
08:15 Viktor (I couldn't find it on Bugzilla but that might be me being lazy)
08:15 drojf morging #koha
08:15 drojf hei magnuse and Viktor
08:16 Viktor Hi drojf!
08:31 rangi magnuse: what do you reckon for a store
08:31 magnuse virtuoso is packaged for .deb
08:31 rangi RDF::Trine::Store::something
08:31 rangi ?
08:32 rangi hmmm yep
08:32 magnuse yeah, question is: build the triplestore into koha or use something else
08:32 magnuse i prefer the latter
08:32 magnuse just make the sparql endpoint configurable
08:32 rangi yeah
08:32 rangi that has merit
08:33 magnuse and use virtuoso that you run yourself or something hosted or...
08:33 rangi makes sense
08:33 magnuse and for vendors it might even make sense to have all their customers use the same triplestore
08:33 magnuse just with different graphs for different libraries
08:34 magnuse that way the enrichments might be shared among libraries
08:34 rangi yeah true
08:37 rangi oh thats not that hard at all
08:38 magnuse :-)
08:39 rangi we just do a POST with INSERT { rdf goes here}
08:39 magnuse yup
08:39 rangi (well a bit more than that, but not much more)
08:39 rangi sweet
08:39 rangi too reasy
08:46 magnuse you'll want to include a graph in there, which should be governed by a syspref - that way many libraries can share a triplestore
08:47 rangi true
09:00 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~gwilliams/RDF-Trine-1.007/lib/RDF/Trine/Store/SPARQL.pm
09:00 rangi perhaps?
09:02 magnuse possibly, i have not looked at that before
09:02 magnuse there's also http://search.cpan.org/~tobyink/RDF-Query-Client-0.112/lib/RDF/Query/Client.pm
09:03 magnuse but that says it's limited to SPARQL 1.0
09:03 rangi yeah
09:03 magnuse not sure if that is a showstopper, though
09:03 rangi not sure you can do the insert with it either .. seesm to be more for getting?
09:03 magnuse possibly
09:04 magnuse it can do POST though, and i don't think it should matter too much what the payload of the query it sends is
09:04 magnuse but i might be wrong
09:05 rangi true
09:05 rangi ill have a crack with the Trine one, it seems to be a bit more loved
09:07 magnuse yay
09:16 rangi magnuse: https://gitorious.org/koha-marc2rdf/koha-marc2rdf/commit/a9c67e706d33053c55261c9b0b57f7123783ac29 + https://gitorious.org/koha/mainline/commit/7f210a4aeabb2a0cc88a55c6cde538247a1d6652
09:16 rangi in theory .. that should work
09:17 rangi and its now 9.15pm
09:17 rangi that'll do for now :)
09:17 magnuse :-)
09:20 magnuse rangi++ bigtime!
09:37 rangi ill drag libraries kicking and screaming at least to where the world was in 2005, or go insane trying :)
09:48 magnuse rangi++
09:51 magnuse @quote add <rangi> mein gott marc has held libraries back so far
09:52 huginn` magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
10:18 magnuse lunchtime!
10:18 wahanui rumour has it lunchtime is a terrible time for a meeting
11:32 nengard @later tell oleonard ping me when you get a chance, need some help with your ebook code, strangeness his happening :) thanks!
11:32 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded.
12:08 jcamins magnuse: if your MARC uses authorized headings you can get links by querying viaf.
12:10 magnuse jcamins: ah, cool
12:12 oleonard Hi #koha
12:13 magnuse jcamins: that is if you have headings that are imported from LOC or something?
12:16 jcamins magnuse: that's what I mean. If the cataloger has actually authorized the headings against LOC (or anything else supported by viaf).
12:18 magnuse nice
12:38 tcohen morning #koha
13:13 oleonard We don't have much choice but to start accommodating RDA records since all our preferred Z39.50 sources are using them
13:14 oleonard It's like the neighbor we're stealing cable from dropped HBO.
13:18 druthb mornin'! :)
13:18 tcohen heh
14:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #80 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #80: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/80/
15:24 jenkins_koha * Mirko Tietgen: Bug 10595: don't display OpacTopissue page when system preference is turned off
15:24 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10597: fix Search to hold button on record details page
15:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 10559: remove spurious "statement handle still active" warnings
15:24 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10553: make public lists available on OPAC login page
15:24 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 10457: fix SQL error when using 'export select items data' in serials claims page
15:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10595 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , OpacTopissue page still accessible when system preference is turned off
15:24 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
15:24 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 9801: display facet labels in search results only when there are facet values
15:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10597 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Search to hold button broken on record details
15:24 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7598: make strings in acquisitions JavaScript translatable
15:24 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7598: [Follow-up] make strings in acquisitions JavaScript translatable
15:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10559 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , noisy statement handle still active warnings when generating notices
15:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10553 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Public lists not available from OPAC login page
15:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10457 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Export selected items data doesn't work when using checkall checkbox
15:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
15:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9801 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , location facet shows even if no locations
15:24 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7598 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Acquisitions JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings
15:29 * oleonard hopes Bug 9456 passes this time so we can finally remove the old tablesorter plugin!
15:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add callnumber column to the cart
16:12 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:13 mtompset So close! Corrected results count for hidden items, but the facets are still listed.
16:23 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Where did the list.gif and cart.gif images go?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/171
16:26 druthb hi, mtompset! :)
16:26 mtompset Greetings, druthb.
16:27 oleonard mtompset: They're part of the sprite image now
16:29 mtompset I have a screenshot that says otherwise.
16:29 mtompset Unless there is something wrong with my configuration?
16:33 oleonard Out of date non-standard or non-en language templates?
16:39 * cait waves
16:40 oleonard Hi cait. Are you traveling?
16:40 cait taking a break at the hotel - more to see here later :)
16:41 * druthb waves to cait, then runs over and hugs her.
16:41 * cait tries to breathe
16:41 * druthb giggles
16:45 gmcharlt druthb: please don't suffocate the QAM
16:47 * druthb wouldn't do that!
16:47 gmcharlt ;)
16:47 druthb Don't mess with the refugee from the data mines. She has a slingshot and Skittles.
16:48 * gmcharlt has a pile of MARC8 test cases in reserve as ammunition... jes' sayin ;)
16:48 * oleonard hopes you can't catch data-lung from working in data mines
16:48 gmcharlt @quote add oleonard hopes you can't catch data-lung from working in data mines
16:49 huginn` gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #270 added.
16:49 * druthb hacks up a really nasty MARC8 record. "Yeah, unfortunately, you can, oleonard."
16:49 druthb If you work in the nice tame areas, you're usually okay, but Dynix Classic…that's the punishment detail.
16:51 druthb Anyone who has to work with a cataloger who still *likes* Dynix Classic should have an automatic pass for an OSHA claim.
16:57 mtompset Hmm... oleonard, I'll reset my master and see if I get the same problem.
16:57 mtompset I'm using the default english.
16:58 mtompset Hmm... I have a color.css which I have had since 3.8.6
17:00 mtompset That is where the gif files are referenced.
17:02 cait gmcharlt: thx for saving me ;)
17:03 gmcharlt :)
17:06 mtompset Woo hoo! results count and facet display corrected in OPAC... Now hopefully I did it an acceptable way. ;)
17:10 jcamins mtompset: and you take into account pagination?
17:11 mtompset I filter data before it hits the pagination portion.
17:11 mtompset So, I would assume that means yes.
17:13 jcamins So you always display exactly 20 (or whatever) results?
17:13 mtompset I haven't fully tested, but I would assume yes.
17:13 mtompset (except for the last page of course)
17:14 jcamins Hm. I'll be curious to see how you did that.
17:14 mtompset but now that you have me thinking about paging... I have to make sure I haven't messed up paging.
17:16 mtompset Oh shoot... premature rejoicing... :(
17:16 mtompset Still progress, nonetheless.
17:17 mtompset Ahh.... stupid hardcoded 1:1 assumption.
17:17 mtompset Need to fix that.
17:17 mtompset My facets were right, my counts were right.
17:17 mtompset but the filtered data was "No Titled" in the dataset.
17:27 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5262: make authority plugin copy indicators to bib record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=129c974fdde0dc62e568f7aa01c4a0796ae150ae>
17:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #38 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
17:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #1359 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
18:03 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #38: STILL UNSTABLE in 36 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/38/
18:03 jenkins_koha Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5262: make authority plugin copy indicators to bib record
18:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5262 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , authority plugin doesn't copy indicators
18:09 drojf evening #koha
18:09 tomas_ hi drojf
18:09 drojf hi tomas_
18:10 tcohen :-D
18:10 drojf i hit tab three times after typing "tc" until i realized your nick was different ;)
18:10 tcohen same here
18:12 drojf ha, now i remember what i thought about the package commands. now that we have DOM/GRS1 options, the only thing missing is ICU i guess
18:13 tcohen and memcached
18:13 wahanui memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it.
18:13 tcohen and fixing koha-foreach
18:13 tcohen heh
18:13 jcamins What's wrong with koha-foreach?
18:14 tcohen there are new switches for koha-list
18:14 jcamins Ah.
18:14 tcohen they should be available for koha-foreach
18:15 tcohen i'm trying to remember what was said about how to manage memcached in the packages...
18:15 tcohen ... aand I can't
18:16 jcamins tcohen: what was said is that we should take advantage of the fact that caching could be configured in koha-conf rather than the Apache config with the current Koha::Cache implementation.
18:18 tcohen on my setup we are using koha-conf.xml actually
18:19 jcamins tcohen: yes, and that should be part of Koha generally.
18:19 tcohen my question was more like if we should do it globally or per-instance
18:20 tcohen I guess one should be able to choose a different memcached server for each instance
18:20 tcohen and fallback to localhost if no extra parameter passed
18:20 tcohen smth like $ koha-create --create-db --use-memcache test
18:21 tcohen (with optional --memcached-servers --memcached-namespace switches
18:21 tcohen )
18:24 tcohen what do u think jcamins?
18:25 jcamins I think that makes sense to me.
18:25 jcamins With a default namespace of koha_{instance}
18:27 gmcharlt yep
18:27 * gmcharlt tosses out bug 10732 as a discussion item
18:27 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10732 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , use a stricter SQL_MODE
18:34 * druthb listens to the crickets chirping
18:35 druthb gmcharlt, I don't think anyone is gonna take the bait.
18:35 oleonard Just toss in whatever wrench breaks everything and wait for everyone else to pick up the pieces.
18:36 * druthb meanders off for some training.
18:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1359: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1359/
18:42 jenkins_koha Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 5262: make authority plugin copy indicators to bib record
18:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5262 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , authority plugin doesn't copy indicators
18:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #81 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #81: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/81/
19:23 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 7143 - Updating history and about page
19:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 7143: add latest batch of committers
19:23 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10197: Add classes to patron info list
19:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
19:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10197 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , Add CSS classes to patron info list in patron account
19:29 oleonard wizzyrea++ # for updating the Bootstrap OPAC demo: http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/
19:56 tcohen bug 10733
19:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Memcached on package installs
19:57 tcohen bye #koha
20:22 druthb gmcharlt++ #Snappy facebook comeback.
20:35 oleonard Bye all
20:44 * mtompset curses pagination.
20:46 gmcharlt mtompset: I dunno, considering how awkward scrolls are, I think the invention of the page was a very good thing
20:46 gmcharlt ;)
20:47 mtompset Yes, but it is playing havoc on generating a patch to properly fix facets and record counts and display them correctly.
20:47 mtompset It seems weird to me the way the results_hashref is generated though.
20:47 mtompset It's like, grab the results, and then only filled in from x-y slots.
20:48 mtompset and then display only x-y slots.
20:48 mtompset why not just generate 20 slots or less and display everything?
20:48 mtompset (well $results_per_page slots)
20:54 mtompset I'm going to rest my brain now, since I did make progress in getting code that properly filters it out in memory, but making it all nicely organized and displayed is the problem now.
20:55 mtompset Have a great day, #koha etc.
21:01 pianohacker hahahaha, he's thinking Search.pm is supposed to make sense
21:01 pianohacker rookie mistake
21:03 wizzyrea <3
21:04 wizzyrea @quote add pianohacker: hahaha, he's thinking Search.pm is supposed to make sense. Rookie mistake.
21:04 huginn` wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:04 wizzyrea curses.
21:05 wizzyrea @quote add pianohacker: hahaha, he's thinking Search.pm is supposed to make sense. Rookie mistake.
21:05 huginn` wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #271 added.
21:05 wizzyrea victory!
21:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #39 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
21:27 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10483: fix item uniqueness check on order form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c9135262b9233f59fd05e34c90980e7dc8be338>
21:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #1360 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:48 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8712: add 'and' label for inputs in OPAC "fewer options" advanced search page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98bd9de54aa7cab6fe3dec8e7cd88378a06e8684> / Bug 8712: change "New list" to "Create new list" in OPAC masthead <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0280dabe0db3e27e0e56a025a61bd41f206de57>
22:01 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #39: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/39/
22:01 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10483: fix item uniqueness check on order form
22:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10483 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , check_uniqueness.pl does not work
22:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #40 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
22:08 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9487: Allow item fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d888835b63b3c581f5ff0c8368b287f91baaedf4> / Bug 10405: add IDs for customizable OPAC regions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b5960cc2a5b69c27a097693f44fcb511f3b53bc>
22:32 * tcohen didn't want to spam the patches list
22:35 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #40: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/40/
22:35 jenkins_koha * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 8712: change "New list" to "Create new list" in OPAC masthead
22:35 jenkins_koha * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 8712: add 'and' label for inputs in OPAC "fewer options" advanced search page
22:35 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10405: add IDs for customizable OPAC regions
22:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
22:35 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10405 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , User-editable sections should have ids
22:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #41 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
22:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1360: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1360/
22:44 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10483: fix item uniqueness check on order form
22:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10483 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , check_uniqueness.pl does not work
22:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #1361 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1359 5 hr 15 min ago)
22:50 tcohen building packages?
22:50 wahanui building packages is really easy.
22:50 tcohen wahanui: building packages is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
22:50 wahanui ...but building packages is really easy....
22:51 wizzyrea building packages is also http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
22:51 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
22:51 wizzyrea building packages?
22:51 wahanui i think building packages is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
22:51 tcohen "also", thanks wizzyrea
22:52 wizzyrea also only if you want to add something to an existing entry
22:52 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
22:52 wahanui you are a Cylon, and they all have plans.
22:52 cjh cjh?
22:52 wahanui hmmm... cjh is applying to the current 3.8.x branch
22:52 wizzyrea wizzyrea is also silly
22:52 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
22:52 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
22:52 wahanui i guess wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing.
22:52 cjh hahhhaha keep dreaming wahanui
22:52 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
22:52 wahanui rumour has it wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing
22:52 wizzyrea it's true.
22:52 cjh wizzyrea?
22:52 wahanui I saw it on Digg!
22:52 wahanui rumour has it wizzyrea is a fan of selecting hunks for committing
22:53 cjh heh
22:53 tcohen tcohen?
22:53 wahanui you are 122
22:53 cjh :o
22:56 tcohen wahanui: tcohen is also obsessed with packages' scripts
22:56 wahanui okay, tcohen.
22:56 tcohen tcohen?
22:56 wahanui i heard tcohen was 122
22:56 tcohen tcohen?
22:56 wahanui you are 122
22:56 tcohen hmm
22:57 tcohen tcohen?
22:57 wahanui rumour has it tcohen is 122
22:57 tcohen i'll let wizzyrea feed wahanui
22:57 wizzyrea forget tcohen
22:57 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot tcohen
22:58 wizzyrea tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts
22:58 wizzyrea tcohen?
22:58 wahanui tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts
22:58 tcohen i am also 122
22:58 wahanui okay, tcohen.
22:59 tcohen bye wahanui
23:09 tcohen i have an item, due 25/03/2008 23:59
23:09 tcohen which 3.12 says it is "Available"
23:09 tcohen booo
23:09 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #41: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/41/
23:09 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Bug 9487: Allow item fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice
23:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9487 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow items fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice
23:10 wizzyrea migrated data?>
23:10 wizzyrea and did < 3.12 show it properly?
23:10 tcohen ṕsibbly
23:10 tcohen noissuingbranch
23:11 tcohen s/no/no /
23:11 wizzyrea I forget what the field is, but there's one in the item record that has to be set with the due date
23:11 wizzyrea for that to display properly
23:11 wizzyrea items.issuedate or something
23:12 wizzyrea in addition to actually having an issue.
23:12 wizzyrea items.onloan
23:12 wahanui items.onloan is probably NULL
23:13 wizzyrea ^
23:13 tcohen onloan
23:17 tcohen onloan should be a date, right?
23:19 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM it" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172
23:19 tcohen migration issues it seems
23:20 tcohen thanks wizzyrea
23:20 wizzyrea np :)
23:20 wizzyrea not many of them anyway
23:21 tcohen do we have a script to check that?
23:21 wizzyrea if we do it would be in the migration toolkit
23:21 wizzyrea migration toolkit?
23:21 wahanui hmmm... migration toolkit is https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/
23:24 wizzyrea https://www.gitorious.org/koha-toolbox/koha-migration-toolbox/blobs/master/migration/Generic/modify_items_based_on_issues.pl
23:27 tcohen sweeet
23:27 tcohen thanks wizzyrea
23:30 wizzyrea what is the actual use case of the borrower files feature?
23:30 wizzyrea every one I think of you could do without it.
23:31 wizzyrea (rather every cool use of it could be just as easily and less expensively accomplished in a different way)
23:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1361: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1361/
23:57 jenkins_koha * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 8712: change "New list" to "Create new list" in OPAC masthead
23:57 jenkins_koha * Srikanth Dhondi: Bug 8712: add 'and' label for inputs in OPAC "fewer options" advanced search page
23:57 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10405: add IDs for customizable OPAC regions
23:57 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9487: Allow item fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice
23:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8712 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srikanth, ASSIGNED , We should use WAI-ARIA guidelines to help with accessibility -OMNIBUS bug
23:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10405 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , User-editable sections should have ids
23:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9487 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow items fields to be used in the HOLDPLACED notice
23:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #1362 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1359 6 hr 28 min ago)