Time  Nick         Message
23:59 rangi        the last 3
23:59 rangi        there are 3
23:59 dcook        So what's the commit for this security release?
23:31 pianohacker  Bye #koha
23:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #168 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:24 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Increment version for 3.12.3 release
23:24 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Update release notes for 3.12.3 release
23:24 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.12.3
23:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: move Auth_ParseSearchHistoryCookie.t to db_dependent directory
23:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: do some validation of the KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie
23:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: use JSON rather than Storable for the OPAC search history cookie
23:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #76: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/76/
23:22 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: move Auth_ParseSearchHistoryCookie.t to db_dependent directory
23:22 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: do some validation of the KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie
23:22 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: use JSON rather than Storable for the OPAC search history cookie
23:22 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #20: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/20/
23:19 dcook        I need to check my twitter more often...I love these
23:18 dcook        hehe
23:18 dcook        lol
23:16 * cjh        starts humming along
23:16 cjh          hahaha
23:16 wizzyrea     hehe
23:16 * rangi      is impatient
23:16 rangi        http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/56822625468/kohails-security-release-thats-right-aint
23:16 wizzyrea     definitely.
23:16 cjh          he deserves a good beer.
23:16 wizzyrea     bless him.
23:16 pianohacker  eythian++
23:15 pianohacker  oh jeez
23:15 cjh          pianohacker: eythian was up at 11:30 pm rolling packages
23:15 gmcharlt     (re eythian)
23:15 gmcharlt     pianohacker: no, just the poor schlub who got tortured by requests to rebuild the packages multiple times
23:15 pianohacker  gmcharlt++
23:15 pianohacker  ah okay
23:15 pianohacker  ^ last three: bug finders?
23:15 cjh          gmcharlt: awesome work finding the issue :)
23:15 gmcharlt     eythian++
23:15 gmcharlt     eythian++
23:15 gmcharlt     eythian++
23:14 gmcharlt     cniighs++
23:14 gmcharlt     jcamins++
23:14 gmcharlt     bgkriegel++
23:14 gmcharlt     tcohen++
23:14 gmcharlt     cjh++
23:14 cjh          gmcharlt: pushed tag, good spot.
23:11 gmcharlt     ah :)
23:11 rangi        when tweetbot catches up
23:11 rangi        you'll see
23:10 gmcharlt     hmm?
23:10 * rangi      giggles
23:03 gmcharlt     rangi++
22:55 rangi        crank it up
22:55 rangi        https://soundcloud.com/kowtow-music/03-nature-of-man
22:55 rangi        here is your reward
22:54 pianohacker  apologies for harassment, and thanks for solving that one problem in the process of solving a much bigger one!
22:54 wizzyrea     ...yeahhhh
22:54 pianohacker  oh, and that email makes sense why the normal bug process didn't happen
22:54 wizzyrea     :D
22:53 pianohacker  haha that's awesome
22:53 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ranginui: "I'm pleased to say, that I had nothing to do with this awesome response to a security issue http://t.co/Sm0YPvaz09 #KohaILS #lettinggo"
22:53 wizzyrea     ^ this made me laugh
22:53 wizzyrea     http://dontbeadickday.com/
22:52 cjh          gmcharlt++
22:51 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit32: move Auth_ParseSearchHistoryCookie.t to db_dependent directory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f0384d42f1427ac680891c2f535c327b1fadf26> / do some validation of the KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45aa375aae1ab7c1ca453ad838b37160371df845> / use JSON rather than Storable for the OPAC search history cookie <http://git.koha-commu
22:51 wizzyrea     benevolent dictator
22:49 pianohacker  gmcharlt++
22:49 pianohacker  and in all seriousness
22:49 pianohacker  sweet. Saw it coming across the wire, and wanted to check
22:49 gmcharlt     pianohacker: oddly enough, once I uncollapse from this, I have a solution for exactly that problem :)
22:48 pianohacker  tyrant!
22:48 wizzyrea     gmcharlt is RM he can do what he wants ^.^
22:48 pianohacker  rangi: Better be careful with your karma, gmcharlt submitted a commit without a bug number ;)
22:47 rangi        jcamins++
22:47 rangi        bgkriegel++
22:47 wizzyrea     eythian++
22:47 rangi        cjh++
22:47 rangi        tcohen++
22:47 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @gmcharlt: "Koha security release - http://t.co/faQdAEWjTZ #KohaILS"
22:47 pianohacker  wizzyrea: It was a pretty squirrely bug, an exact number was hard to come by
22:47 rangi        gmcharlt++
22:47 wizzyrea     out of curiosity
22:47 wizzyrea     pianohacker: how many searches, you reckon
22:45 gmcharlt     pianohacker: yep -- but stand by a few minutes
22:45 huginn`      04Bug 10338: normal, P3, ---, oleonard, NEW , Search history can cause "Out of memory" errors
22:45 pianohacker  gmcharlt: Does http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=961617765ef25bde32cb050ad016f3b063661ef8 fix http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10338 ?
22:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #76 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:41 rangi        heh galens server is faster than the main jenkins one, (or i should say the clock on the main one is slow)
22:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #20 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
22:37 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: move Auth_ParseSearchHistoryCookie.t to db_dependent directory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=18454bbb7d5bf6486cd7efdde11ffe0eb2cdcf52> / do some validation of the KohaOpacRecentSearches cookie <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=961617765ef25bde32cb050ad016f3b063661ef8> / use JSON rather than Storable for the OPAC search history cookie <http://git.koha-communi
21:59 cjh          eythian++
21:59 rangi        eythian++
21:40 kathryn      miss...
21:40 kathryn      sleep tight cait!
21:40 cait         good morning kathryn and good night everyone
21:40 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.2°C (11:40 PM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
21:40 cait         @wunder Konstanz
20:34 * druthb     heads for home.
20:33 druthb       lulz
20:32 cait         hmpf?
20:32 wahanui      cait: go to bed
20:32 druthb       cait?
20:31 * cait       waves
20:26 cait         oh
20:21 cait         yay :)
20:17 magnuse      druthb: yay!
20:16 druthb       Now my car won't be 50C in the afternoon!
20:16 druthb       wahoo!  The office manager just came to see me; I have a parking pass for the underground garage.  Guess they're gonna keep me around after all!
20:16 druthb       lol
20:16 oleonard     Fine, *I'll* got to bed!
20:14 druthb       hehehe
20:14 cait         hmpf?
20:13 druthb       yes, I think you should.
20:13 wahanui      cait: go to bed
20:13 druthb       cait?
20:10 cait         you think i should?
20:10 wahanui      Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
20:10 cait         germs?
20:09 druthb       listen to wahanui, cait.
20:09 wahanui      cait: go to bed
20:09 pianohacker  cait?
20:09 druthb       you did too do something, cait.
20:08 druthb       :P
20:08 wahanui      i heard cait was qam, not your secretary
20:08 druthb       wahanui:  cait?
20:08 druthb       hey, edveal. :)
20:08 cait         i didn't do anything!
20:08 wahanui      Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
20:08 edveal       Hey druthb...
20:08 cait         druthb!
20:08 druthb       cait++
20:08 druthb       cait!!
20:07 cait         setting active
20:07 cait         you could manipulate using jquery i think
20:06 edveal       I am trying to change the details display page to show the "Title notes" by default rather than the Holdings tab. Has anyone done this before? Any ideas.
19:55 cait         agreed
19:55 gmcharlt     *two
19:55 gmcharlt     FWIW, I try to stay on top of any I set to that status, but someties it does take too to tango
19:53 cait         just trying to get it back to discussion
19:53 cait         or we could have a 'in discussion bug' of the day
19:53 cait         i was thinking maybe we should have the oldest 5 or so on the dashboard?
19:52 cait         for some it's easy, for others it's not
19:52 cait         hm maybe
19:52 oleonard     The discussion is really only between the patch submitter and the person who put the bug into discussion, unless someone else happens to be watching. Seems like the person putting it to "in discussion" might as well just say "failed qa" and say why they don't like it.
19:50 cait         i think if you care about the bug... you can dig it up
19:50 oleonard     I think the "In discussion" status for bugs is a graveyard.
19:09 oleonard     Thanks I'll give it a try
19:08 jcamins      If you open up the record in the editor, and click the three dots it opens the auth chooser.
19:08 jcamins      Yeah, the plugin.
19:08 * cait       waves
19:07 oleonard     auth chooser?
19:07 jcamins      Then turn on AuthHierarchies.
19:07 jcamins      Then, after creating them, open them up again and use the auth chooser to add a broader/narrower link (as appropriate) to a 551.
19:06 jcamins      (GEOGR_NAME)
19:06 jcamins      Create two authorities, like New York (State) and New York (City).
19:06 jcamins      You need to link some authorities together.
19:05 oleonard     I'm looking at this jstree plugin and wondering how to test its functionality in Koha. What kind of authority data do I need to see more than one level in a tree?
19:04 jcamins      What's up?
19:04 jcamins      For a few minutes.
19:04 jcamins      Kinda.
19:04 oleonard     jcamins around?
16:49 gaetan_B     bye !
16:48 jcamins      The pixels on the left side of the 8 are all missing.
16:48 jcamins      oleonard: bad pixels.
16:47 oleonard     Since when does " Compatible with jQuery 1.3+" mean "Requires jQuery >= 1.8?"
16:39 cait         heh
16:37 drojf        cait! druthb!
16:37 druthb       druthb!  . . .  oh.  Wait.
16:36 cait         drojf! druthb!
16:36 druthb       cait!  drojf!
16:17 coffee       ah, liability insurance
16:17 jcamins      oleonard: that's just because it tripped all the people carrying books.
16:16 coffee       Bananas for $1.99
16:15 oleonard     And the votes are in! It's banana by a landslide. http://thenounproject.com/noun/banana/#icon-No8106
16:09 oleonard     Although if you're looking for a reason not to like Syndetics you can start with the fact that they link to the wrong Koha web site :P
16:08 jcamins      oleonard: nor do I.
16:07 oleonard     If the terms are fair I would think it's not unreasonable to pay for something like that. I don't know the details though.
16:04 jcamins      oleonard: well, it's free as in "you are free to sell yourself into slavery in order to pay for a temporary subscription."
16:04 jcamins      bigbrovar: right.
16:03 bigbrovar    lol
16:03 oleonard     Not free as in anything
16:02 bigbrovar    jcamins: afaict thats not free as in beer, right?
16:02 jcamins      bigbrovar: so if you have Syndetics, you might see something there.
16:01 * nengard    has a brain of mush right now after all the travel
16:01 nengard      I know i've seen other content in that tab i could be wrong about the source - but it's coming from some enhanced content source
16:01 wahanui      hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:01 jcamins      nengard: oh, interesting.
16:00 nengard      jcamins i think enhanced content from syndetics might also show in title notes if you have that enabled
15:52 jcamins      Also, Amazon book covers are controlled separately from other Amazon enhanced content.
15:51 jcamins      So far as I know, Amazon reviews no longer show up due to API and license changes.
15:50 jcamins      bigbrovar: "Title notes" is for record-level notes in the 5xx fields.
15:48 bigbrovar    I observed that the Title notes tab for items (under opac and staff clients) is missing.. I use amazon for enhanced contents though the book cover is pulled.. the title notes tab is empty :/
15:46 kf           bye all
15:46 kf           ok
15:44 bigbrovar    kf: hmmm I did run koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v instance after the first import... and the output showed completion without errors.. anyway..all is fine now
15:44 pianohacker  ebegin: yes
15:44 ebegin       pianohacker, do you use the opening/closing time to compute fines too ?
15:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: link to UseCourseReserves pref
15:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add UseCourseReserves
15:43 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add course reserves
15:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #343: SUCCESS in 35 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/343/
15:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #343 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED)
15:42 ebegin       pianohacker, thanks, we will look at it
15:39 jcamins      ... and sure enough he does.
15:39 pianohacker  yup
15:39 jcamins      I think pianohacker has a patch for that.
15:38 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed
15:38 ebegin       that is what I meant :) Is there plan to add some ?
15:38 wahanui      bug 8133 is what started libsysguy's quest
15:38 pianohacker  ebegin: bug 8133
15:38 jcamins      ebegin: there is no hourly calendar.
15:37 ebegin       pianohacker, As we speak, it doesn't seem to have anything related to branches' opening / closing hours
15:36 pianohacker  ebegin: They're working and integrated into current Koha, why?
15:36 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "OSCON: “Good Enough” is Good Enough http://t.co/mCB9iC0BVc #KohaILS"
15:36 oleonard     http://thenounproject.com/noun/mushroom-cloud/#icon-No4075
15:35 ebegin       Anybody knows the status of the hour loans ?
15:34 oleonard     http://thenounproject.com/noun/stack-of-books/#icon-No3700
15:34 oleonard     http://thenounproject.com/noun/stack-of-books/#icon-No11494
15:34 oleonard     Vote for your favorite "Course reserves" icon!
15:23 kf           hi tcohen
15:22 tcohen       hi #koha
15:21 kf           ... when you imported the second
15:21 kf           bigbrovar: hm my only idea is that the first batch was not fully indexed when you imported it
15:21 huginn`      alphaman: The current temperature in Blossomwood, Huntsville, Alabama is 23.8°C (10:21 AM CDT on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
15:21 alphaman     @wunder 35801
15:20 coffee       welcome alabama
15:18 oleonard     Typical rookie mistake.
15:12 huginn`      druthb: My excuse for today is "failure to calibrate laser power level"
15:12 druthb       @excuse
15:12 druthb       drojf++
15:06 ebegin       gmcharlt++
15:05 drojf        http://developerexcuses.com/
15:04 ebegin       gmcharlt, ok, I got it ! Thank for the clarification.
15:01 gmcharlt     try git log --pretty=fuller to see what I mean
15:00 gmcharlt     date patched was authored != date patch was committed to master
15:00 gmcharlt     ebegin: you're OK
15:00 ebegin       git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git
14:59 coffee       gmcharlt: We're getting ready to rebuild our VM server, when done I think I may throw up a VM and give CFEngine a test run
14:59 oleonard     What did you clone ebegin?
14:58 ebegin       I did a clone this morning and the last log I can see from the master branch is from April 26th...
14:57 ebegin       Any git master around ? :)
14:56 bigbrovar    kf: I first did a bib-record import.. using the stage marc for import tool, after which I did another marc import (this time with the holding information) and used match to tell koha to only add only items but ignore records if a match is found
14:53 bigbrovar    kf: so am importing enteries to our koha installation from a mrc generated from csv file using marcedit.
14:52 nengard      is there a bug report maybe for this?
14:52 nengard      shouldn't it be in the tools or admin or have it's own bubble on the main page?
14:51 nengard      it's only under the 'more' menu at the top
14:51 nengard      hey all ... i'm home for a week ;) doing manual updates and i'm wondering about course reserves
14:49 kf           it can happen when you are importing duplicated records - the index is not current after importing the first one yet so the second doesn't match
14:49 huginn`      druthb: Quote #236: "eythian: Broadening Koha's appeal and making it ready for a post-MARC world. <-- post-MARC world sounds like post apocalyptic world , except it's MARC, so it's more like post-post-apocalyptic world" (added by wizzyrea at 10:10 PM, March 12, 2013)
14:49 druthb       @quote random
14:49 kf           bigbrovar: what do you mean by items? records?
14:44 bigbrovar    but when I did a seperate upload of the remaining which was ignored in the first upload. I got a match .. should I be filing a bug report? (koha 3.12 debian squeeze packages)
14:42 bigbrovar    I observed that when I uploaded mrc containing 582 items.. only the first 510 where matched, the rest was ignored as unmatched even though they ought to have been matched
14:42 oleonard     Debugging a minor error in a template, traced the problem back to a change in 2009
14:41 bigbrovar    Is there a limit to the number of records that can be matched when using stage marc for import?
14:35 gmcharlt     coffee: a bit of a learning curve, but automatic deployments FTW!
14:33 coffee       pondering the merits of CFEngine...
14:31 wahanui      i already had it that way, huginn`.
14:31 huginn`      kf: Quote #252: "<@jcamins> Really the issues is that Anglo-American libraries have settled on a profoundly stupid format that utterly fails to express anything that patrons care about, while going on at great length about things patrons don't care about." (added by chris at 10:42 PM, May 26, 2013)
14:31 kf           @quote random
14:15 kf           good morning gmcharlt
14:15 huginn`      gmcharlt: Quote #213: "jwagner: There are few problems that can't be solved with patience, ingenuity, and a large kick in the pants (assuming servers wear pants, that is)." (added by wizzyrea at 06:18 PM, August 07, 2012)
14:15 gmcharlt     @quote random
14:14 kf           meaning a list of holds a patron has for the patron to take?
14:14 kf           hm someon know a way to print a hold slip in koha?
14:11 kf           yeah, lots of windows, solar panels on roofes etc.
14:11 coffee       broken out car window
14:10 kf           not sure which you saw - but lots of damage :(
14:10 coffee       don't need google to translate that picture
14:10 coffee       oops
14:10 coffee       don'
14:08 kf           [off] http://www.gea.de/bilder/bildergalerien/hagel+sturm+verwuestet+reutlingen+und+teile+der+region.3283365.htm
14:08 coffee       OK, let it rain cold coffee and we can put big heaters underneath the rain barrels
14:08 kf           hot coffee rain might even top the hail in my home town yesterday
14:07 kf           coffee: ok, then i vote against raining coffee
14:07 coffee       kf: there is only hot hot coffee, though I confess at a derelict point in my life I was given to the habit of drinking iced coffee in Seoul.
14:06 coffee       Koha would be a good name for a brand of coffee. Koha Coffee. Kona Koha Coffee. Koha Kona Coffee.
14:05 kf           cold or hot coffee?
14:02 oleonard     Mmm... scalding rain.
14:01 coffee       Collect it in a rain barrel?
14:00 coffee       I wonder what it would be like if it rained coffee?
14:00 huginn`      druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 29.9°C (8:58 AM CDT on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
14:00 druthb       @wunder 77063
14:00 coffee       whoisi
13:59 huginn`      rambutan: I have not seen coffee.
13:59 rambutan     @seen coffee
13:59 rambutan     Light Rain, but Rain
13:59 rambutan     Rain
13:59 huginn`      rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 17.9°C (8:59 AM CDT on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
13:59 rambutan     @wunder 64507
13:44 kf           hi oleonard :)
13:44 kf           hi druthb :)
13:08 druthb       :D  Hi, oleonard! :D
13:07 oleonard     Good Monday to you druthb
12:59 ebegin       anybody did a new clone of koha repo lately ?
12:54 ebegin       hi all !
12:53 ebegin       jcamins, i just tried to do a regular clone and my last log still on april 26th... even weirder
12:42 eythian      kf: not really time. no matter, it's not the end of the world.
12:42 khall        I was in the Pennsylvania Wilds, so being back has it's pros ( such as air conditioning and indoor plumbing ).
12:41 kf           see pm :)
12:41 kf           and hi khall
12:41 kf           hm
12:41 kf           eythian: maybe try writing bgkriegel an email ?
12:41 khall        : )
12:41 eythian      I guess we're going to have to jump a version then.
12:41 oleonard     My condolences khall!
12:41 oleonard     :D
12:41 khall        I was, but now I'm not
12:41 eythian      nor a tag for it
12:40 oleonard     khall must be on vacation
12:40 kf           hmm
12:40 huginn`      kf: khall was last seen in #koha 5 days, 20 hours, 20 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <khall> is this as good a place to start as any?
12:40 kf           @seen khall
12:40 eythian      there was no email announcement for 3.10.8?
12:36 eythian      I probably should
12:34 kf           you can write to the site owner
12:34 kf           nope it is not
12:33 eythian      It is certainly not good that that site stores passwords like that though.
12:30 wahanui      hello, Dyrcona
12:30 Dyrcona      hello
12:30 eythian      yeah, mine turned out to be one of those "I don't think I trust this site" passwords, fortunately.
12:29 kf           Hi Dyrcona
12:29 * drojf      checks the password to find he used a disposable one he would have never remembered
12:29 kf           my reaction was probably similar to yours
12:29 kf           eythian: i canconfirm that
12:28 jcamins      Ah.
12:28 eythian      I wanted to use the advanced search thing that requires a login.
12:27 jcamins      I generally just e-mail requests that records be changed.
12:27 jcamins      Oh, I'm sure you're right.
12:27 eythian      test it, but it just emailed me a password I quite plausibly used.
12:26 jcamins      eythian: !!!
12:26 eythian      People should be aware that libwebcats seems to store passwords in cleartext, and email them back to you when you ask for a password reminder.
12:26 ebegin       Hey oleonard !
12:25 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:25 ebegin       I'll try a regular clone to see if I have the same behavior
12:23 jcamins      It just occurred to me that maybe it had defaulted to a merge branch or something.
12:23 ebegin       ... and the same for git log HEAD
12:23 jcamins      Okay. Then I definitely have no idea.
12:23 ebegin       git log master gave me the same thing than git log
12:22 ebegin       ok, you are right, I do have branch, but none checked out.
12:22 jcamins      The entire point of --mirror is to have all the branches that the remote has, no?
12:21 jcamins      No, there are lots of branches, just none checked out.
12:21 ebegin       afaik
12:21 ebegin       it's a bare repo, so there is no branches
12:20 jcamins      And you did look at the log of master or another branch that is updated regularly, right?
12:20 ebegin       And looking at http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb, the last entry seams to be 3 days ago
12:20 ebegin       Weird, isn't it
12:20 jcamins      Very odd. I can't explain it.
12:19 ebegin       yep, I did it few minutes ago
12:19 jcamins      Even though you just cloned it?
12:19 ebegin       when i do a git log, the last entry I get from that clone is from April 26th.
12:17 jcamins      Okay.
12:17 ebegin       A bare repository that will update
12:16 jcamins      Why --mirror? What are you trying to accomplish?
12:16 ebegin       I just did a git clone --mirror git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git in a local dir called koha-community
12:14 ebegin       a quick question about git... it seems simple, but there is something I don't understand
12:14 ebegin       hello everyone !
12:12 kf           maybe
12:11 bigbrovar    just wondering how marcedit got it wrong.. must have been when I had to join all the holding tags during my delimited text mapping
12:10 kf           and it will reindex autimatically:)
12:10 kf           yes, that will be easiest then
12:10 bigbrovar    kf: not much (for now) less than 800.. and yes I would use batch item edit
12:10 kf           you could also use the batch item edit tool
12:10 bigbrovar    kf: anyway, thanks I will have a look now that I see the problem
12:10 kf           how many items is it?
12:09 kf           then it shoudl beok
12:09 bigbrovar    3.12*
12:09 bigbrovar    yes 3.13
12:09 kf           i assumeyou are using a newer version of koha
12:09 kf           you can change it in your items table with sql and do a complete reindex
12:08 kf           if you can't reimport
12:08 bigbrovar    most have been from when generating from marcedit
12:08 kf           i don't know how you generated the records
12:08 bigbrovar    hmmm but how could that be? and how can I corrent that from marc records
12:08 kf           that woudl totally do it
12:08 kf           you have a space before the BK
12:07 bigbrovar    kf: http://paste.koha-community.org/142
12:04 bigbrovar    ok.. I will copy it from my marc ...
12:03 * magnuse    wanders off
12:03 kf           bigbrovar: i think you have a mismatch between the code in your administration and in the 952
12:02 wahanui      I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
12:02 kf           paste?
12:02 kf           coudl you copy an example 952 into paste?
11:51 bigbrovar    kf: here is a screenshot http://imgur.com/7Raxc1z
11:49 bigbrovar    so item type information is missing from holding information in both staff and opac client
11:48 kf           hm can you describe the problem again?
11:48 bigbrovar    kf: got all that checked
11:47 kf           BK and bk are different things to Koha
11:47 kf           else it won't work
11:47 kf           and the case has to match
11:47 kf           it's in administration - itemtypes
11:47 kf           bigbrovar: no, not an authorised value
11:34 bigbrovar    oh so I have to set up a different athorized value for item types?
11:33 eythian      that's what wizzyrea was referring to
11:33 bigbrovar    the default code for book item type is bk
11:32 bigbrovar    eythian: I have item types (i.e Home --> Admin --> Item type ) setup
11:28 eythian      <wizzyrea> I mean the item types in Adminsitration, they're not authorised values
11:28 eythian      bigbrovar: you need to set up item types
11:27 bigbrovar    I did not know I had to setup itemtype authorized values
11:26 bigbrovar    wizzyrea: thanks
11:24 wizzyrea     anyway, I'm going to bed :P
11:24 wizzyrea     that might include case, I'm not sure.
11:24 wizzyrea     my thinking being that if your imported code and the code in item types don't match, it won't know what to show.
11:21 wizzyrea     I mean the item types in Adminsitration, they're not authorised values
11:20 wizzyrea     do you have the authorised values set up, or did you install the default ones for itype?
11:19 bigbrovar    wizzyrea: yes I do see items
11:19 wizzyrea     and otherwise you see items on your records?
11:18 bigbrovar    wizzyrea: It doesn't
11:12 wizzyrea     ?
11:12 wizzyrea     does it show up in the staff client
11:12 eythian      maybe there's a syspref for it, I'm not sure.
11:11 eythian      I actually thought it did that by default.
11:11 bigbrovar    eythian: any idea what I need to do to make the holding information in opac display item type? I have already set 952$y to bk which corresponds to the item type for books
11:09 eythian      that'll do it.
11:09 bigbrovar    eythian: I forgot to run an index immediately I imported the biblio records.. before importing the bibblio items
11:07 bigbrovar    The other issue I am having now is Item Type seems to be missing amount holding information even though 952$y was set
11:06 eythian      now you have to tell us what it was.
11:05 bigbrovar    kf: I was indeed doing something wrong. Figured it our now.
10:37 kf           bigbrovar: looking at our 3.12 and matching on 001/Control-number that works alright
10:33 bigbrovar    kf: yes I did.. I double checked. I am about to try again .. I most be doing something wrong. Just have to figure out what
10:25 kf           did you check your matching rule is correct and was applied staging the records?
10:23 bigbrovar    kf: yes I did index the data and I can search the records.
10:12 kf           bigbrovar: is your data indexed? zebrasrv running? can you search in teh opac for your previously imported records?
10:02 eythian      hi
09:54 bigbrovar    doing that would always result in 0 match found even if I upload from a mrc file which has been previously uploaded
09:53 bigbrovar    Hi guys am running koha 3.12.00.000 on debian squeeze. however I can't seem get isbn match using the stage marc for import tool.
09:45 yipso        How to convert USMARC to MARC21?
08:52 kf           drojf: you are almost too  late for the translation fun
08:50 huginn`      kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.3°C (10:50 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
08:50 kf           @wunder Konstanz
08:48 kf           hi drojf
08:47 kf           more than me :)
08:45 wizzyrea     which is not a lot
08:44 * wizzyrea   remembers thismuch french.
08:44 kf           :)
08:44 * wizzyrea   giggles, c'est bot.
08:44 wizzyrea     bon*
08:44 wizzyrea     oui, c'est bot
08:44 kf           nice eh? :)
08:43 wizzyrea     viola of love?
08:43 kf           Viola d'amore
08:41 kf           true
08:41 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects
08:41 magnuse      bug 7939
08:40 magnuse      is reminded of a bug, let's see
08:39 magnuse      ah
08:39 kf           i think it stems from there
08:39 kf           unimarc plugins are now translatable
08:39 kf           i think those don't go together
08:39 kf           heh
08:39 magnuse      guitars are not normally bowed, though?
08:39 kf           lute family
08:38 magnuse      vihuela?
08:38 kf           guitar family
08:38 * magnuse    wonders why they need pondering
08:38 kf           translation drama ;)
08:37 wizzyrea     sounds like a drama :P
08:36 kf           yeah
08:35 magnuse      huh?
08:35 * kf         ponders "Ethnic bowed strings"
08:35 wizzyrea     yay kenza :)
08:35 kenza        thank you !
08:35 magnuse      yeah kenza++
08:34 kf           and kenza++ for your unit test patches :)
08:34 kf           hi kenza :)
08:25 kenza        bonjour ! :)
08:24 magnuse      bonjour kenza
08:08 * magnuse    too
08:07 * kf         translates
08:06 magnuse      guess they will tell us all about when they have figured out how to use it, then ;-)
08:05 magnuse      "Testopia is a full featured test case management extension for Bugzilla." does not make me much wiser, i'm afraid...
08:05 magnuse      cool
08:04 kf           not sure what it does yet
08:04 kf           some new plugin rangi and gmcharlt wanted to try
08:02 magnuse      what's this testopia thing i keep seeing in connection with bugzilla?
07:40 kf           drojf++
07:32 christophe_c bonjour kf ;-)
07:31 magnuse      same temp in marseille and here!
07:30 huginn`      kf: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
07:30 kf           @wunder Marseille
07:30 kf           hi christophe_c
07:30 christophe_c hello #koha
07:27 magnuse      but plenty to come
07:27 magnuse      no rain here yet
07:27 kf           fits my mood
07:27 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
07:27 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:27 kf           rain
07:27 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.7°C (9:25 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:27 magnuse      @wunder konstanz
07:27 magnuse      guten morgen kf
07:25 kf           good morning #koha
07:14 * dcook      strolls out rather happy to get the definitive word on position 19 of the MARC21 leader :p
07:14 dcook        night #koha
07:07 dcook        I'm rather warm in my winter jacket at the moment indoors :p
07:07 dcook        Maybe that's true
07:07 * dcook      looks outside
07:07 huginn`      dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (5:00 PM EST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
07:07 dcook        @wunder sydney, australia
06:58 magnuse      :-)
06:58 magnuse      hah!
06:58 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 21.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
06:58 magnuse      @wunder marseille
06:58 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 21.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on July 29, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
06:58 magnuse      @wunder boo
06:57 dcook        salut gaetan_B :)
06:57 dcook        Might be useful for those who aren't that familiar with RDA/AACR2 cataloguing
06:57 gaetan_B     hello
06:57 dcook        It maps the RDA (aka AACR3) rules to MARC21 fields
06:57 dcook        Actually, that rdatoolkit link isn't half bad...
06:46 dcook        If only the rdatoolkit were publicly accessible in its entirety..
06:45 huginn`      dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:45 dcook        @later tell cait I think I found proof that you're right about LDR 19! http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=jscmap1
06:44 dcook        cya
06:44 cait         bbiab
06:44 dcook        Jcamins probably but I hope he's asleep by now
06:44 cait         stopped raining - i better run looking at the rain prediction
06:43 dcook        As for LDR 19...who knows?
06:43 dcook        I think the fallback might have issues, but I think the onus to alter that is on the person using the fallback
06:43 dcook        I think your workflow should work pretty well :)
06:42 cait         just trying to make koha work with the data i have and it's far from perfect
06:42 cait         and it's not me
06:42 cait         i don't often see that happen, so it might have been missed
06:42 cait         maybe
06:42 cait         :)
06:39 dcook        Thanks for explaining though :)
06:38 dcook        I think that fallback should use "q=Host-item:" like analytics though
06:38 dcook        Crafty, cait! I like it!
06:38 dcook        And "bib-level" contains the LDR 7 position..
06:37 dcook        Yep..."Record-control-number" 773$w
06:36 dcook        Yeah...that must be how it works
06:35 dcook        Sorry, I just confused myself, lol
06:35 dcook        And then "not+(bib-level:a+or+bib-level:b)" filters out the parent record?
06:35 dcook        So does...773$w map to...the "rcn" index?
06:34 dcook        Hmm
06:34 cait         i build the fallbacks mainly for other libraries
06:34 cait         and $w
06:34 cait         for the libraries using the union catalog we are using 001
06:34 dcook        Ok, regardless of the title then
06:33 cait         the title is a fallback
06:33 cait         and we lnk it all together using $w subfields and 001
06:33 dcook        So the other volumes have the same title or 001?
06:33 cait         and you get the records for the volumes
06:33 cait         and then you click on it
06:33 cait         yep
06:33 cait         just what i told you - sets are for mulit volume stuff mostly
06:33 dcook        So you have a parent record, which would show "Show volumes"
06:33 dcook        Regardless of right or wrong, I"m curious about your workflow
06:32 dcook        I think I saw a dnb wiki..
06:32 cait         we got all those hierarchies in our data here
06:32 cait         but not sure
06:32 cait         i think the set things were added on request of DNB
06:32 dcook        But it was redefined in 2007
06:32 dcook        If it had a "r", it meant there was a linking 7xx field
06:32 dcook        If you look at older websites, position 19 used to be..."Linked Record Requirement" I think
06:31 dcook        Although I'm not sure that's the case :S
06:31 dcook        That's certainly how I would interpret it
06:31 cait         at least i think that meaning was intended
06:31 cait         i think items here means 'physical' items
06:30 cait         a - Set                         Record is for a set consisting of multiple items.
06:30 dcook        It can be "a" for the "set" record then "b" or "c" for the "part" record
06:30 cait         but we don't do it for other records afaik
06:30 dcook        http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html
06:30 cait         and a separate record for each volume
06:30 dcook        I think that's also correct
06:30 cait         because in germany we have a parent record for those
06:30 cait         we use set for multi volume works
06:30 cait         i can try and ask my coworker bout it
06:29 dcook        This is on the rdatoolkit website :p
06:29 cait         dcook: interesting, but not sure it's rigt still... and if our union catalog records don't do that... you'd still be breaking our workflow
06:29 dcook        When I look at some RDA examples, they have LDR 19 set to "a" for things like short story collections
06:29 cait         not so much recently i am afraid
06:29 cait         lol
06:29 * magnuse    has found that cait is quite often correct ;-)
06:29 dcook        Actually, I'm not sure that is right..
06:28 dcook        I find the online info to be quite...terse
06:28 dcook        I imagine that you are correct
06:28 dcook        Indeed it would :/
06:26 cait         it would break our display if you changed that :(
06:26 cait         i think the a is not used  for serials
06:26 cait         at least for me :)
06:26 cait         analytics are within something
06:26 cait         sets are really separate items
06:25 cait         analytics are different than sets
06:25 cait         hm no
06:24 dcook        So it would just show itself :S
06:24 dcook        But that would mean the link for "Show volumes" would be the title of that journal record
06:23 dcook        It seems to me that a record for a journal should have a LEADER position 19 of "a" for set
06:23 dcook        I'm confused as well about the fallback
06:23 dcook        Fair enough :p
06:23 cait         Canadian or not :)
06:23 cait         most of all you are confusing to me this morning :)
06:23 dcook        Canadian = trying not to offend anyone :p
06:23 cait         ?
06:22 * dcook      might be Canadian...
06:22 dcook        cait: I knew that it was German, but I didn't want to be offensive if it was possible that i might be offensive
06:21 cait         when you are not using UseControlNumber or using Easyanalytics (because those don't work together)
06:21 cait         looking for the title of the serial/host in 245 from the analytic
06:21 magnuse      guten morgen cait
06:20 cait         dcook: i think ti,phr shoudl be the fallback
06:20 cait         guten morgen is german :)
06:20 dcook        Or god morgen rather :p
06:20 dcook        I guess I'll just have to say good morning more often ;)
06:19 magnuse      yeah, guess that is pretty close, when i look at it
06:19 magnuse      "god morgen" would do it :-)
06:19 magnuse      sort of
06:18 dcook        Not guten morgen, but close?
06:17 * dcook      tried to remember some Norwegian but failed miserably in his mind
06:17 dcook        hey ya magnuse
06:14 magnuse      kia ora #koha! :-)
05:57 dcook        Oh wait, it looks like rangi put that bit in
05:54 dcook        Do you know why the link for "Show volumes" would be "/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?q=ti,phr:"?
05:54 dcook        Like "Show analytics", "Show volumes", and something about Sets
05:54 dcook        I did a Git Blame for the MARC21 intranet detail xslt and it looks like you did a lot of the code for the 773 stuff
05:53 cait         hm? :)
05:53 dcook        Hey cait, quick question for you..
05:45 cait         :)
05:45 dcook        But it's sunny so it feels a bit like morning?
05:45 dcook        Afternoon :)
05:44 cait         well... good time of your day
05:43 cait         good morning dcook
05:40 dcook        hey ya cait :)
05:39 papa         no worries
05:38 dcook        Thanks for the tip, papa :)
05:38 dcook        I changed that ampersand entity back to the &
05:34 papa         heh
05:05 dcook        You're a machine, Srdjan ;)
05:05 dcook        papa++
04:26 quoc         Okie, thanks!
04:19 quoc         it was pushed to new version Koha, but how does it work? How can i get multiple Opac for each branch library?
04:19 quoc         yes, i was pushed to new version Koha, but how does it work? How can i get multiple Opac for each branch library?
04:17 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9541 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Opac-user doesn't load correct CSS for multiple branches
04:17 quoc         about bug 9541 multi-opac  feature
04:17 quoc         yes, i just wanna ask some one
04:16 wizzyrea     hallo
04:16 quoc         Hi everyone
03:26 dcook        bbiab
03:26 dcook        All right, I think I need food in me
03:24 dcook        Little by little
03:22 jcamins      Closer.
03:19 dcook        hehe
03:18 wizzyrea     lol
03:18 wizzyrea     ie--
03:18 jcamins      ie--
03:18 dcook        I'm sure ie can make it to lowest...
03:18 jcamins      Took me a while, because I was looking at the 625.
03:18 dcook        ie--
03:17 huginn`      wizzyrea: Highest karma: "rangi" (861), "oleonard" (738), and "jcamins" (623).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-103).  You (wizzyrea) are ranked 6 out of 2577.
03:17 wizzyrea     @karma
03:17 dcook        Probably nothing, but it was something to say.
03:17 jcamins      Oh, right.
03:17 jcamins      What happens in 43?
03:17 dcook        Actually, it's not too bad
03:17 huginn`      jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (861), "oleonard" (738), and "jcamins" (623).  Lowest karma: "<!" (-115), "failed" (-103), and "ie" (-103).  You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2577.
03:17 jcamins      @karma
03:16 dcook        As for patches...I don't want to talk about it :p
03:16 dcook        I meant your karma :p
03:15 jcamins      Nothing! You started with how many?
03:15 jcamins      43 patches left to rebase?
03:13 dcook        Well, 43, I guess
03:13 dcook        Only 41 to go...
03:13 huginn`      dcook: Karma for "jcamins" has been increased 625 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 623.
03:13 dcook        @karma jcamins
02:54 dcook        jcamins++
02:54 dcook        I suppose I'll get a call if it doesn't work
02:54 dcook        Hmm, looking all right.
02:49 dcook        Yeah, that was my next step (besides eliminating code duplication)
02:49 jcamins      Though obviously you'll need to confirm IE9 doesn't require any of that weird io.src stuff.
02:49 dcook        Mmm, that's what I was thinking you meant
02:49 pastebot     "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "dcook: like so" (30 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/141
02:47 dcook        And put it higher up?
02:47 dcook        Remove the try/catch I have
02:47 jcamins      Like this...
02:47 dcook        Oh...I think I follow
02:47 dcook        Agreed
02:47 jcamins      I mean, IE9 should be executing the code in the else.
02:47 dcook        ?
02:46 jcamins      It should be in the else.
02:46 jcamins      IE9 doesn't removed that weird behavior.
02:46 jcamins      Because IE detection doesn't work.
02:46 dcook        Why's that?
02:45 jcamins      if(window.ActiveXObject)
02:45 dcook        Which if?
02:45 jcamins      I would prefer that you change the if() to a try.
02:45 dcook        In that case, what do you think of the try/catch solution?
02:44 jcamins      Nah, probably incorrect documentation.
02:44 dcook        Or the emulated version isn't right
02:44 jcamins      I guess the documentation was wrong.
02:43 dcook        Which would use the proper createElement('iframe')
02:42 dcook        But fails miserably in IE9
02:42 wahanui      interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
02:42 jcamins      Interesting.
02:42 dcook        createElement([html]) certainly works in actual IE8
02:42 dcook        I'm not sure I follow
02:40 jcamins      It's the ActiveX that is different.
02:40 jcamins      dcook: same createElement.
02:40 dcook        What's the special call that IE7 is supposed to use according to that documentation, jcamins?
02:40 dcook        I wonder then why gmcharlt added the ActiveXObject check and createElement([html]) bit at all then
02:39 jcamins      dcook: yeah, createElement('iframe') should work properly since that's actually correct.
02:39 dcook        I'm going to go check this out on an actual IE8 install
02:38 dcook        The funny thing is that createElement('iframe') seems to work in emulated IE8
02:38 dcook        Hmm
02:38 jcamins      It was an extension to the DOM standard that they introduced and then realized immediately was a terribly bad idea, I think.
02:37 jcamins      I can't figure out why it works in IE7, because createElement([html]) is supposed to only work in IE8 according to the documentation I was reading the other day.
02:37 dcook        So far, the try/catch is the only reliable-ish idea I have for making this work
02:36 wizzyrea     well yes, it's crappy and needs to be fixed
02:36 dcook        It doesn't in IE9
02:36 dcook        The current code woorks in IE7
02:36 dcook        And actually
02:36 dcook        wizzyrea: I don't "want" to :p
02:36 jcamins      wizzyrea: no, I'm just objecting that it's crappy code.
02:36 wizzyrea     SEVEN?!
02:36 wizzyrea     ...you want to support IE7 in the staff client?
02:35 pastebot     "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ie7 new tab" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/140
02:35 dcook        The upload will work with the catch, but it also opens up a new tab that displays...
02:35 dcook        Well, not full
02:34 dcook        Hmm, or maybe I'm full of crap
02:34 jcamins      Hmm.
02:33 dcook        If that's the case though, the upload wouldn't work
02:33 jcamins      The catch will work.
02:33 jcamins      Sorry, to clarify, the *try* will fail in IE7.
02:33 jcamins      I was just reading about how to create iframes in IE7, actually, and they use a special call.
02:32 dcook        And IE9
02:32 dcook        Yep, works in emulated IE7
02:31 * dcook      checks that again
02:31 dcook        Emulated IE7 at least
02:31 dcook        It seems to work in both
02:31 jcamins      That'll fail in IE7 too.
02:31 jcamins      dcook: that's just wrong.
02:31 dcook        Not sure what the io.src is doing though..
02:30 dcook        I added in that try/catch so that it'll work in IE9
02:30 pastebot     "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ajaxfileupload" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/139
02:30 dcook        Sorry, babbling :p
02:30 jcamins      dcook: huh?
02:29 dcook        That's not what I meant but blah
02:29 dcook        Although it doesn't help explain why the ActiveXObject is having its src property set in the JS..
02:27 * dcook      enjoys git blame :)
02:27 dcook        I think that was its original purpose
02:27 jcamins      Probably.
02:26 dcook        I take it "ajaxfileupload.js" is used for marc imports as well
02:26 wahanui      somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
02:26 dcook        Interesting...
02:14 dcook        Not elegant but doable
02:14 dcook        Huzzah...think I figured it out
01:44 dcook        :S
01:44 dcook        Maybe one we wrote though..
01:43 dcook        Looks like a jQuery plugin
01:41 dcook        Wait, that might still be our script..
01:41 dcook        Oh my...
01:39 * dcook      doublechecks master on this one
01:39 dcook        As jQuery tends to do its own checking of browsers and versions, me thinks
01:39 dcook        I'm thinking that might be an idea
01:38 jcamins      Or just replace it with jQuery.
01:37 jcamins      dcook: look up... xhmlhttprequest ie 9.
01:36 dcook        Yeah!
01:36 wizzyrea     neat!
01:36 dcook        I suppose I like to understate things :p
01:36 jcamins      wizzyrea: I read "causes the web browser to crash."
01:36 dcook        Throws a javascript error and utterly fails
01:36 wizzyrea     or "partially doesn't work"
01:35 wizzyrea     "doesn't work so hot" means "doesn't work?"
01:33 jcamins      Sounds reasonable.
01:33 dcook        But that's just a hypothesis
01:33 dcook        So workarounds for IE8 don't work anymore with IE9
01:32 dcook        To be fair to Microsoft, I think they might've fixed whatever wasn't working in IE8
01:32 jcamins      dcook: weird.
01:32 dcook        IE--
01:32 dcook        Although it worked in IE8
01:32 dcook        Apparently, the ajax for uploading local images doesn't work so hot in IE9...
01:23 dcook        o/ khall
01:10 dcook        IE--
00:29 dcook        That said, I have a specific case in mind, so that might be an edge case.
00:29 dcook        While they might not accomplish their set out goal, I think they do help contribute to a sense of solidarity (in some cases), and that's something.
00:28 dcook        But I think sometimes it can help people psychologically to at least "feel" like they're not the only one who thinks about a topic
00:28 dcook        Admittedly, most annoy me :p
00:28 wizzyrea     slacktivism.
00:28 dcook        I suppose it depends on the petition
00:28 wizzyrea     oh there's a funny phrase about that
00:27 jcamins      dcook: "annoy everyone"
00:27 rangi        its the equivalent to saying 'I don't actually care about this, but want to look like i do'
00:27 dcook        rangi: Define nothing
00:27 rangi        corollary to the people don't understand mailings, online petitions do nothing
00:26 dcook        Perhaps.
00:25 BobB         10 brownie points earned and 15 given up, I reckon
00:25 dcook        Infeasible but not impossible...
00:24 BobB         dash home at lunchtime?
00:24 dcook        I did all the chores last night though (including hers), so maybe she'll forgive me ;)
00:24 dcook        I'm going out tonight! Eeep!
00:24 dcook        hehe
00:24 BobB         Better get home before your wife!  :)
00:24 dcook        My fingers feel naked now...
00:23 * dcook      is wishing he hadn't left his wedding rings on the kitchen counter.
00:23 wizzyrea     no, it won't be in the digest yet.
00:23 dcook        Hmm, must not have made it to the digest yet
00:23 BobB         oh
00:23 wizzyrea     what's their use case?
00:23 * dcook      takes a look
00:23 dcook        Oh my...
00:22 wizzyrea     someone told a website to email everyone in their google account
00:22 BobB         Personally I don't know why you'd want it in two collections.  I would move it from one to the other and back again when needed.
00:22 rangi        you'll see it
00:22 dcook        rangi: Oh?
00:22 wizzyrea     oops
00:22 dcook        BobB: Probably. But yeah, like Liz said, what's the problem?
00:22 BobB         :)
00:21 rangi        i wish people understood mailing lists
00:21 BobB         There are no repeatable fields in Items.  I think its best to keep it that way.
00:21 dcook        wizzyrea: Initially, but the marcxml 952s are built up from the items table once they're in the system
00:21 wizzyrea     what problem are they trying to solve?
00:21 wizzyrea     might be stored in the marcxml?
00:21 dcook        But that's just a theory. I haven't looked at importing in a couple months.
00:21 dcook        All others would probably just be dropped on import.
00:21 dcook        I doubt it. I'd have to look at the import scripts, but I imagine only the first would be put into the items table.
00:20 BobB         yes.  So the second could overwrite it, perhaps?
00:20 dcook        Hmm
00:19 BobB         Could mess up statistics, at least
00:19 dcook        I imagine just the first 952$8 would be copied into the DB
00:19 dcook        I've never done that, and I imagine it wouldn't work
00:19 BobB         Hi David
00:19 dcook        Hmm
00:19 dcook        Morning, BobB
00:18 BobB         a client wants to do that but I'm not sure what consequences there might be
00:18 BobB         has anyone ever made ccode (952$8) repeatable?
00:17 BobB         good morning all