Time  Nick         Message
23:59 jcamins      So it does.
23:58 dcook        Hmm, looks like the Koha history hasn't been updated in a while: http://koha-community.org/about/history/
23:52 rangi        198 commits from olwen williams
23:51 jcamins      rangi: okay, thanks.
23:51 rangi        yes
23:49 wahanui      i heard Maybe was a momentaneous error
23:49 dcook        Maybe?
23:49 dcook        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1a2VN_pec
23:48 jcamins      Did anyone other than rangi contribute any code to Koha 1.0?
23:48 tcohen       :D
23:44 dcook        Potatos are growing strong though :D
23:44 dcook        Our basil died recently :/
23:44 dcook        tcohen: :(
23:41 tcohen       yeah, de-hidrated basil will never match the flavour
23:40 jcamins      tcohen: I hate that.
23:40 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9755: (follow-up) tweak test for tag visibility in merge hash <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=faa43031e66d1544aa2c93befa3f849ba93806d7> / Bug 9755 QA follow-up: fix template compliance <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4712fc66f0601fe82e27f4a06dd75f0bd345c1ef> / Bug 9755 QA follow-up: move MARC-specific functionality to utility class <http://git.koha-commu
23:40 tcohen       hmm, basil got frozen last night
23:36 jcamins      Please feel free to move any branches you would like.
23:35 jcamins      gmcharlt: by the way, you probably noticed, but I never got very far on moving old feature branches to the archive git repo.
23:34 gmcharlt     jcamins: pokage has occurred
23:30 jcamins      gmcharlt: bag is probably still around.
23:29 gmcharlt     hmm, git.k-c.org is responding to ping but is otherwise not responsive
23:23 cjh          going to wait a bit and hope, but I can always rewrite it tonight :)
23:22 cjh          yeah...
23:22 tcohen       heh, oops
23:22 cjh          ahh ty, but my message isn't in my sent box which isn't a good sign.
23:22 tcohen       i received an email alerting me that
23:21 tcohen       cjh, large messages get moderated
23:10 cjh          drats, it isn't in my sent email, somehow managed to cancel that...
23:03 cjh          I will give it an hour and I can always write it again
23:03 cjh          heh
23:03 jcamins      Sorry.
23:03 jcamins      No, I saw the tag.
23:02 cjh          that is promising :)
23:02 jcamins      cjh: I think I saw it.
23:02 cjh          hmmm I wrote the 3.8.15 release email, hope that sent...
22:56 dcook        morning #koha
22:26 gmcharlt     *tough
22:26 gmcharlt     wizzyrea: touch project (re the XKCD link) -- here we need worry only about murdering kittens!
22:25 wahanui      http://xkcd.com/1172/
22:25 huginn`      wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
22:25 wizzyrea     @quote get 123
22:25 wizzyrea     O.o
22:25 * gmcharlt   just had a lightbulb moment -- hold shelves where the library starts charging rent after the third day
22:24 gmcharlt     heh
22:17 drojf        ;)
22:17 jcamins      drojf: that sounds right. :P
22:16 drojf        i like how 'Please pick it up at your convenience.' became 'pick it up as fast as possible' in the german translation.
22:07 jcamins      :)
22:06 * tcohen     feels relief, thanks jcamins
22:06 jcamins      tcohen: why? It'll never fill up all the RAM. It'll crash long before it loads that much from the hard drive.
22:05 * tcohen     thinks that having 8GB RAM on his laptop can make this a nightmare
22:05 jcamins      That's always fast.
22:05 jcamins      It'll crash momentarily.
22:05 jcamins      tcohen: don't worry.
22:04 tcohen       jcamins, eclipse importing the koha source from git is so sloooooooooooooow
21:58 cait         night all :)
21:58 cait         go to bed
21:58 cait         maybe would have to be - subscription branch - patron home library branch fallback? too late really to figure out
21:58 cait         you shouldn't but i think you can
21:57 cait         so there is a problem with that
21:57 cait         drojf: hm you can actually create subscriptions without a branch i guess
21:47 drojf        i can't even find it. that might be the trick ;)
21:45 drojf        let's see
21:45 drojf        hm ok i think my subscription is actually in my home branch. but i bet that there won't be any info if they differ
21:44 drojf        it doesn't
21:44 cait         if you can use branches... which branch will be used
21:44 cait         but then again... the question might be where it pull the information from
21:43 cait         well you CAN edit the notice template i guess
21:43 drojf        ;)
21:43 drojf        BUT i repaired the email
21:43 drojf        it does not say anything about the whereabouts of the issue in the email
21:43 cait         because that's where hte issue is the patron is informed about
21:43 cait         drojf: i think i'd find the branchcode of the subscription a little more logical
21:39 drojf        lol
21:39 pianohacker  some people are just better at pretending
21:39 pianohacker  drojf: nobody does
21:34 * drojf      has no idea how serials work
21:34 drojf        why is that the branchcode of the patron and not that of the serial anyway in getalerts?
21:23 drojf        it may not even work, i haven't tried any of those yet. so i might just use any that works ;)
21:22 drojf        i'll take option 1
21:20 cait         sorry
21:18 cait         drojf: i think it's too late for me to follow you
21:17 cait         that would make sense :)
21:17 drojf        while the second seems like the more direct way to do it, i think i prefer the first one in case that the handling of branch codes in getalerts might change in the future (like, not the home branch of the user being subscribed but maybe the homebranch of the serial). does that make sense or is it just complicating things?
21:17 Dyrcona      cait: I think the recorded pronunciation is for Norwegian.
21:17 drojf        2) my $branchdetails = GetBranchDetail($borinfo->{'branchcode'};   # get branchcode from borrowers table
21:17 drojf        1) my $branchdetails = GetBranchDetail($_->{'branchcode'};   # get branchcode via getalerts from alerts table (which joins it from borrowers table)
21:16 cait         ah no german
21:16 drojf        i got two ways of getting the 'from' email address for subscription alerts.
21:16 cait         Dyrcona: the recorded pronounciation is not really good
21:16 drojf        i have a fun question about Letters.pm.
21:14 Dyrcona      pianohacker: http://www.easytrans.org/en/?q=knuffe#.Ue7x9d9jGIg
21:09 cait         who do you want to knuff?
21:09 cait         hm?
21:09 pianohacker  cait: Sorry to use you as a dictionary, but wanted to make sure I got it right
21:08 pianohacker  silly me
21:08 pianohacker  jcamins: D'oh, of course
21:07 jcamins      :)
21:07 jcamins      pianohacker: /knuffe/ of course. :P
21:07 pianohacker  cait: Random question. How do you pronounce knuffe?
20:56 jcamins      tcohen: also, it's Eclipse, and we all know _its_ disadvantages. :P
20:50 tcohen       onthe other hand, it is java, with all its disadvantages
20:48 tcohen       it is aimed for QA people mostly
20:48 tcohen       i use vim for most of my tasks, but I love EPIC (the perl IDE on top of eclipse) and mylyn seems to fit perfectly for integration with our bugzilla
20:46 jcamins      tcohen: I have not, but what benefit does frequent crashing provide to the development process? :P
20:44 tcohen       has anyone tried eclipse-mylyn with the koha project?
20:42 tcohen       indeed
20:39 tcohen       probably
20:38 jcamins      Ah, and we used tail recursion to remove trailing spaces?
20:38 tcohen       (don't ask me how, maybe some migration related problem)
20:37 tcohen       a library had a record with too many trailing spaces fro 300$c
20:37 tcohen       it was just for the google record heh
20:37 tcohen       editing C4/XSLT.pm, and adding something like $xslt->max_depth(1000); below the "my $xslt = XML::LibXSLT->new();" call
20:36 jcamins      tcohen: when would you enounter an error like that?
20:36 tcohen       if you are debugging errors like "You can adjust xsltMaxDepth (--maxdepth) in order to raise the maximum number of nested template calls and variables/params (currently set to 250)" on your Koha, you can set that variable
20:33 cjh          rangi++
20:32 wahanui      thanks cait :)
20:32 cait         wahanui botsnack skittles
20:29 cait         heh
20:29 druthb       say again?
20:29 * druthb     chucks skittles at drojf
20:27 cait         drojf: see now we got druthb to admit she likes you - and that even tho she doesn't throw skittles at you :)
20:27 cait         no fun
20:26 cait         i doubt the bot would ike him -  no gluten
20:26 drojf        no, don't feed me to the bot!
20:26 * druthb     likes drojf!  don't feed him to the bot!
20:26 tcohen       where should I put xsltMaxDepth to set it to a higher value?
20:26 wahanui      thanks druthb :)
20:26 druthb       wahanui botsnack cookie
20:26 wahanui      :)
20:26 cait         wahanui botsnack drojf :P
20:25 wahanui      gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology.
20:25 druthb       gmcharlt!
20:25 wahanui      gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology.
20:25 drojf        gmcharlt!
20:25 wahanui      everybody is so enthusiastic today :)
20:25 gmcharlt     everybody!
20:25 drojf        lol
20:24 druthb       cait!
20:24 drojf        cait!
20:24 cait         drojf!
20:24 cait         druthb!
20:24 druthb       :P
20:24 drojf        :)
20:24 drojf        druthb!
20:24 druthb       drojf!
20:24 drojf        maybe we should drop unimarc support if people using it don't care about testing each other's patches :P
20:20 pianohacker  okay then :)
20:19 rambutan1    pianohacker: my thoughts are always in Thailand
20:19 tcohen       thanks #koha
20:16 drojf        tcohen++
20:12 jcamins      tcohen++
20:12 tcohen       :)
20:11 gmcharlt     tcohen++
19:41 pianohacker  rambutan1: ... are you in missouri or burma or russia?
19:40 rambutan1    close, awfully close
19:39 huginn`      rambutan1: The current temperature in Chita, Russia is 10.0°C (5:00 AM YAKT on July 24, 2013). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
19:39 rambutan1    @wunder hta man thi, burma
19:34 huginn`      tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 10.0°C (4:00 PM ART on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
19:34 tcohen       @wunder cordoba, argentina
19:31 rambutan1    Our prospective thunderstorm fizzled out.
19:27 cait         yay!
19:27 cait         thunderstorm!
18:35 tcohen       bye jcamins
18:24 cait         oleonard:  :(
18:23 oleonard     The sad part is I had a nice big patch for the OPAC to add DataTables implementation in place of tablesorter.js and it has gone missing
18:22 oleonard     Just in case?
18:22 oleonard     For later?
18:22 oleonard     Good feelings?
18:22 jcamins      oleonard: what did we add it for?
18:20 oleonard     Never used.
18:20 oleonard     Funny... Two years ago we added the DataTables plugin to the OPAC. The end.
18:17 tcohen       by event module I mean mpm-itk
18:14 tcohen       the problem with the event module is that is not considered stable on 2.2 (it is on 2.4)
18:14 tcohen       and the event module is similar, but is non-blocking (like lighttpd or nginx) and thus can serve more clients per process
18:13 tcohen       the worker module is the same, with several threads per fork
18:13 tcohen       (prefork mode)
18:12 tcohen       usually, it has X spare processes and launches new ones as it needs (until a MAX)
18:12 tcohen       it depends on the MPM you're using
18:12 jcamins      Hm. Actually, I just checked one of my servers with 8 instances, and it has only 10 Apache processes so I must not have understood how itk works.
18:12 pastebot     "tcohen" at 172.22.66.76 pasted "<IfModule mpm_worker_module> S" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/134
18:10 jcamins      But how many processes does it have running?
18:10 tcohen       i even trued with running a single zebra server for all of them (too much tweak)
18:09 tcohen       we run a single apache server
18:09 jcamins      Right, but it isn't it configured _per instance_?
18:09 tcohen       i haven't played with the itk mpm we use
18:09 tcohen       apache will launch as many processes as it is configured to
18:08 jcamins      Either PSGI or plain CGI.
18:08 tcohen       running on PSGI mode?
18:08 jcamins      Yeah, but it would require some special configuration to deal with the Apache processes, I think.
18:07 tcohen       but server is idle most of the day
18:07 tcohen       ours are busy at some hours
18:07 tcohen       course
18:07 tcohen       it is do-able of coures
18:06 jcamins      tcohen: oh, I was contemplating running several hundred small, low-use instances.
18:06 tcohen       why jcamins?
18:05 tcohen       38
18:05 jcamins      tcohen: how many instances do you run on a single server?
18:03 jcamins      And it's better because it doesn't require git-bz.
18:02 jcamins      My script in contribs now _really_ works with packages under LXC.
18:02 jcamins      Hehe.
17:59 tcohen       oh, i missed the part you taliked to yourself
17:59 jcamins      No you didn't. That was the entire conversation. :P
17:59 tcohen       i'm sorry, arrived late to the conversation
17:59 jcamins      Yeah.
17:59 tcohen       i guess is related to some sort of testing infrastructure you''ve set?
17:58 jcamins      git bz thinks it's running as the normal Apache user not the user that's configured.
17:57 huginn`      druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 33.9°C (12:57 PM CDT on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
17:57 druthb       @wunder 77098
17:57 jcamins      tcohen: effective UID.
17:57 tcohen       what's that EUID jcamins?
17:57 tcohen       EUID?
17:49 jcamins      And I was just thinking how nice and cool it was, too.
17:49 huginn`      jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 30.0°C (1:44 PM EDT on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling).  Flash Flood Watch in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 
17:49 jcamins      @wunder 11375
17:49 cait         i melted several times today
17:49 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.3°C (7:45 PM CEST on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
17:49 cait         @wunder Konstanz
17:48 jcamins      It now works with packages under LXC.
17:48 jcamins      I have updated the signoff script.
17:47 drojf        it will get even warmer the next days. isn't it great?
17:46 huginn`      drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 27.4°C (7:43 PM CEST on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
17:46 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
17:46 drojf        hi cait
17:45 cait         hi drojf
17:42 * cait       waves
17:41 jcamins      I should perhaps -- at some point -- figure out why the EUID of the package users does not seem to be the one set with AssignUser.
17:40 jcamins      That's what I'm talking about!
17:20 huginn`      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:20 tcohen       @later tell eythian i've tagged and released v3.12.2, you can roll the debs whenever you want
17:19 huginn`      tcohen: eythian was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 1 minute, and 53 seconds ago: <eythian> just in the js
17:19 tcohen       @seen eythian
17:11 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @KohaILS: "#KohaILS  Match Points versus Match Checks in Koha http://t.co/thKOU1F68n"
16:46 gaetan_B     bye
16:43 kf           got late again :) bye all!
16:43 gmcharlt     heh
16:42 pianohacker  gmcharlt: So you're putting off adding the feature you discussed, where non-well-formed XML causes the user's mother to call them and tell them that they're _very_ disappointed in them?
16:41 vfernandes   I wasn't closing one tag... but in 3.2 was working without closing :D
16:40 vfernandes   :D
16:40 vfernandes   I found the problem
16:40 gmcharlt     vfernandes: how big is the file?  can you put it up somewhere so that I can download it?
16:39 vfernandes   <collection><record>...</record></collection>
16:39 vfernandes   yes...
16:38 kf           is the XML valid?
16:38 kf           did you tell the script it's XML?
16:38 kf           it's hard to tell without knowing how your file looks like and if you are setting the correct parameters
16:37 vfernandes   I know... but in a older version the file is imported, in 3.12 not
16:36 kf           vfernandes: it should be valid marcxml
16:36 vfernandes   anyone could tell me the xml structure to import in 3.12
16:34 alexander    adding a field and reindexing worked
16:34 alexander    kf, thanks a lot
16:30 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC
16:30 oleonard     So khall are you going to do more with Bug 10632 to get the DataTables working correctly?
16:29 vfernandes   *records
16:29 vfernandes   I've tried to migrate one XML file in 3.2 and it worked, the same file in 3.12 gives 0 recores
16:28 vfernandes   MARCXML files for bulkmarcimport which structure should have?
16:28 vfernandes   hi guys
16:27 kf           maybe you have to enter a new record to make sure it resets - but that's just a guess
16:26 kf           hm i think it does
16:25 alexander    does this do the reindexing?
16:25 alexander    i did koha-rebuild-zebra -f
16:24 kf           there is a command to run a full zebra reindex for the packages
16:24 kf           alexander: your indexes are not curent - try reindexing
16:22 wahanui      The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/
16:22 alexander    anybody?
16:21 alexander    biblioitems, biblio, items are empty
16:21 oleonard     khall: Yes
16:21 alexander    I ran into this problem: i did koha-remove, after that koha-create, and did all the settings from scratch, but old records still persist, but they give out "the record you requested does not exist"
16:20 khall        is this as good a place to start as any?
16:19 oleonard     khall: Table sorting in the OPAC hasn't been globally converted to DataTables
16:19 alexander    hey friends
16:18 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC
16:18 khall        hey oleonard: the opac has everything to implement datatables, but it doesn't look like it's ever been done. Is that correct? I just submitted a patch for bug 10632 and my datatables look a bit funky ( no sorting arrows, etc )
16:16 kf           http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=8a8b70f22ec0fbf23acf6fcd4c2e945a0b9a6972;hb=7f075448b8e00596ece780cca654471eebf949a3#l2077
16:15 kf           hm guess i will need another bug report for suggestions
16:14 kf           ah
16:13 oleonard     opac-detail.pl doesn't know whether it's UNIMARC or not
16:12 kf           well that and German MARC21
16:11 kf           oleonard: UNIMARC
16:11 oleonard     If you apply Bug 10505 then you get double colons ::
16:11 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10505 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Add a separator between title and subtitle for OPAC without XSLT
16:11 oleonard     That's what I thought, but then Bug 10505
16:09 kf           and a / if there is none but you have an author?
16:09 kf           hm I thought that was the way to do it
16:08 oleonard     Is it incorrect to have a 245a with a trailing colon in cases where there is a subtitle?
16:08 gmcharlt     kf: sadly, my computer lacks the copy-and-fix-typos-and-paste feature ;)
16:08 kf           gmcharlt: ugh - you could have corrected all my typos at least :)
15:53 kf           hope it makes sense
15:53 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Table alert should have a FK on borrowernumber and entries be deleted with the referenced borrower
15:53 kf           bug 10631
15:52 kf           gmcharlt: makes sense :)
15:51 gmcharlt     e.g., deleted_borrower_alerts, etc.
15:51 gmcharlt     and if there's a desire for a more complete patron undelete, add new tables as needed
15:51 kf           and note it for manual deletion for now... *meh* :)
15:50 kf           i will file a bug
15:50 gmcharlt     I'd rather have the FKs
15:50 kf           i am working on a 'concept for deletion of personal data' so that's where those questions come from :)
15:49 kf           we already delete a lot - that would make it more consistent, but I coudl imagine that might be the eaosn it was not done in the first place?
15:49 kf           hm wondering... we delete all that, but that will make it impossible to do an 'undelete' bringing borrowers back from deletedborrowers
15:48 gmcharlt     kf: yes
15:48 kf           shouldn't that have a FK constraint on the borrowernumber and a cascade that it gets deleted when the borrower is deleted?
15:48 kf           ok, looking at alert... if someone has a mment: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=8a8b70f22ec0fbf23acf6fcd4c2e945a0b9a6972;hb=7f075448b8e00596ece780cca654471eebf949a3#l2682
15:47 gmcharlt     *crept in
15:47 gmcharlt     (I do wish that the patch came with whatever script was used to generate the sorted version, as it would be easier to confirm that no unexpected changes crept it)
15:46 gmcharlt     admittedly, such a merge conflict is about the easiest one possible to resolve, but I see his point about take a step to make it less likely to occur in the first place
15:45 oleonard     I see. That's why simple CSS changes conflict so often.
15:45 gmcharlt     whereas if the file is sorted, and EEE and MMM are added in their respective places, a merge conflict is much less likely to occur
15:45 gmcharlt     at some point a merge conflict is likely
15:45 gmcharlt     if they both, as is current practices, add the new one to the end of the file
15:45 kf           :)
15:45 gmcharlt     consider two patches from two different contributors, one that adds syspref EEE and one that adds syspref MMM
15:44 gmcharlt     oleonard: the idea is that if the sysprefs are sorted in order by the code, a patch that adds a new one (in its proper place, alphabetically), is less likely to create a merge confilct
15:43 reiveune     bye
15:42 kf           shouldn't we delete entries in alerts when the borrower is deleted?
15:42 kf           hmm
15:42 kf           at least i think that's the idea
15:42 kf           so less merge conflicts
15:42 kf           so the lines are less likely to be close together
15:42 kf           oleonard: i think because it won't put them in the end
15:37 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Match Points versus Match Checks in Koha http://t.co/HvwHdjCBtU #KohaILS"
15:37 * oleonard   hasn't tested, just trying to understand the change
15:36 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , sysprefs.sql is really boring to rebase
15:36 oleonard     In what way does Bug 10610 help?
15:11 kf           hm
15:11 kf           then that looks about right
15:11 kf           ah
15:08 oleonard     circulation.pref has a comment: "# FIXME: printcirculationslips is also omitted. It _technically_ could work, but C4::Print is HLT specific and needs a little bit of refactoring."
15:08 drojf        oleonard++
15:07 kf           the rest seems right.. htere used to be  a  lot more
15:07 kf           printcirculationslips looks a bit dubious
15:06 kf           basically everything that shows up in a normal tab too hm.
15:06 kf           oleonard: i think a lot are not right there
15:01 oleonard     It would be nice to have documentation on what preferences are supposed to appear under "Local use" and why
14:37 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @KohaILS: "#KohaILS  The Henry Carter Hull Library Chooses ByWater Solutions’ Koha Support http://t.co/mBOvxAnhmk"
14:28 huginn`      kf: My excuse for today is "Slashdot"
14:28 kf           @excuse
14:27 druthb       oooh.
14:27 huginn`      druthb: My excuse for today is "Slashdot"
14:27 druthb       @excuse
14:25 jcamins      Apache--
14:24 kf           rangi made me do it.
14:19 huginn`      druthb: Quote #161: "* wizzyrea prefers pricks" (added by kf at 02:18 PM, October 18, 2011)
14:19 druthb       @quote random
14:10 kf           hi gmcharlt :)
14:09 gmcharlt     hmm, that postdates adding MARC support ;)
14:07 huginn`      gmcharlt: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009)
14:07 gmcharlt     @quote random
13:32 kf           thx khall :)
13:09 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records
13:09 kf           bug 5202
13:07 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "The Henry Carter Hull Library Chooses ByWater Solutions’ Koha Support http://t.co/xPDANRPLJm #KohaILS"
13:04 jcamins      Of course, even faster would've been just using cp instead of git clone.
13:03 jcamins      Woohoo! Blazing fast transfer speeds!
13:02 jcamins      It's like chroot on steroids.
13:02 jcamins      oleonard: it allows me to run a complete Ubuntu installation in a container on my existing server.
13:00 wahanui      well, P is part I know
13:00 oleonard     wahanui: :P
13:00 wahanui      LXC is really cool.
13:00 oleonard     What is LXC?
13:00 * khall      wants this
13:00 jcamins      oleonard: well, plus it allows you to not worry about cron jobs, etc.
13:00 jcamins      oleonard: right.
13:00 oleonard     jcamins: The purpose of koha-gitify is to allow the ease of installation of a package but give you git control?
13:00 * jcamins    sets up LXC+koha-gitify for maximum awesomeness.
12:58 khall        my fix causes HoldsQueue.t to fail in such a schizophrenic way it's melting my brain.
12:57 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10628 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , AutomaticItemReturn prevents holds queue from filling local holds with local items
12:57 khall        jcamins, I couldn't agree more. You can see my ranting on bug 10628
12:57 jcamins      That's the only explanation I can come up with.
12:57 jcamins      khall: poor specification?
12:56 khall        can anyone explain why AutomaticItemReturn has *anything* to do with building the holds queue? I cannot for the life of me understand why, but it's even in the unit test!
12:54 wahanui      it has been said that gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
12:54 jcamins      gitify?
12:54 jcamins      koha gitify?
12:54 jcamins      koha-gitify?
12:54 jcamins      koha-gitify
12:54 tcohen       did the release announcement reach the forum?
12:38 wizzyrea     12:30 :) I'm going soon
12:36 kf           jcamins: i already told her, she is not listening :)
12:35 jcamins      wizzyrea: isn't it extraordinarily late for you?
12:35 wizzyrea     we have some coconut biscuits here that would be amazing in something like that
12:35 wizzyrea     lorna doone's
12:35 wizzyrea     naw, go get some from the store!
12:30 jcamins      Unfortunately, it requires baking the cookies.
12:28 jcamins      Since I know you're also desperate for royal gossip, I present to you a friend's suggestion for what I should bake next: http://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog/2011/04/13/wills-and-kates-wedding-cake-%E2%80%93-whats-the-secret/
12:27 oleonard     True. I'm so well-trained to avoid baby spit up that I still don't get dressed in my work clothes until I'm about to leave. And it's been years since my kids were babies.
12:26 wizzyrea     better than "baby spit up"
12:25 kf           that sounds lovely
12:25 kf           heh
12:25 * oleonard   is wearing a new scent today, known as "Spilled Coffee on Myself."
12:24 kf           hi oleonard :)
12:09 oleonard     Hi #koha
11:55 kf           jcamins++
11:06 wizzyrea     ^.^
10:59 kf           wizzyrea++
10:57 wizzyrea     wb
10:31 kf           back
10:00 wizzyrea     kohadevreactions.tumblr.com >.>
09:32 wizzyrea     because I need something else to look after.
09:32 wizzyrea     now I want to start a Koha Dev tumblr.
09:31 wizzyrea     we should rewrite Koha in Python is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that
09:30 wizzyrea     just thinking about it
09:30 wizzyrea     i am seriously laughing my posterior off.
09:30 cjh          wizzyrea: also add it for python
09:30 cjh          home time, good bye internet
09:30 wizzyrea     i really want to add one for every language that's ever been suggested.
09:28 kf           bbl
09:28 kf           cjh: i felt realyl bad
09:27 * wizzyrea   laughs a lot
09:27 cjh          heh
09:27 wizzyrea     we should rewrite Koha in PHP is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that
09:27 wahanui      http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that
09:27 wizzyrea     refactoring acquisitions?
09:26 wahanui      OK, cjh.
09:26 cjh          wahanui: acquistions is <reply>http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that
09:26 wizzyrea     refactoring acquisitions is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that
09:26 wahanui      cjh: what?
09:26 cjh          wahanui: &
09:26 cjh          wizzyrea: you didnt say it at wizzyrea
09:26 cjh          kf: heh brave!
09:25 cjh          wizzyrea: the 'sounds good lets try' is also called 'refactoring acquisitons'
09:25 wizzyrea     paying licensing for a proprietary ILS is <reply> http://media.tumblr.com/6975654124d5729b22abb6c97bf3010d/tumblr_inline_mpl4bepowL1qz4rgp.gif
09:24 kf           i had maccaroni with cheese microwave thing when i got sick last time... i suvived that so i am not afraid of pies
09:24 wizzyrea     http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that
09:24 kf           :)
09:23 wizzyrea     hahaha yea, I thought about that.
09:23 cjh          kf: you can come over and try our mince and cheese pies :)
09:23 cjh          wizzyrea: you need https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtXtIivRRKQ
09:23 wizzyrea     "yes, it's down. No I don't know when. I'm talking to you instead of fixing it."
09:22 wizzyrea     one after another.
09:22 wizzyrea     and the receptionist would put them all through.
09:22 cjh          T.T
09:22 wizzyrea     40 libraries called AT THE SAME TIME.
09:22 wizzyrea     because if something went down
09:22 cjh          hahhah
09:22 cjh          assimilate.
09:22 wizzyrea     this used to be me at NEKLS: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55859109938/getting-interrupted-while-dealing-with-an-outage
09:21 cjh          he found it strange and he wasn't a fan, rest assured he has now mastered the meat pie :)
09:21 wizzyrea     :)
09:21 wizzyrea     you eat it. duh.
09:20 cjh          I had a german friend over a few years back, he had lived in new zealand for a few years at the time, for dinner we served him a mince pie, he had no idea what to do with it.
09:20 * kf         wants to come back to wellington some time too for a visit
09:20 wizzyrea     done and ... done
09:20 wizzyrea     but at least as bad as anything in a generation
09:20 kf           :)
09:20 cjh          requirements: a) freak out over large quake, b) eat a mince pie
09:20 wizzyrea     winter southerly storms, and earthquakes (though no, not "the big one")
09:19 wizzyrea     as I understand it, we've been present for about the absolute worst wellington has to offer now
09:19 cjh          wizzyrea and trea can now be called real wellingtonians now :)
09:19 wizzyrea     so now I have a vodaphone and a telecom ;)
09:19 cjh          wizzyrea: welcome to wellington xD
09:19 cjh          \o/
09:18 * wizzyrea   got her backup SIM card today
09:18 cjh          if I called the number it would ring forever but our phone wouldnt ring, and if that number called me it would come up as 'anonymous number'
09:18 cjh          I think it is a fault on their end, the phone number they assigned to us also wasnt working
09:18 wizzyrea     terrible.
09:18 wizzyrea     !
09:18 cjh          so they have called a tech to wander round over the next few days, it is killing me
09:18 wizzyrea     so you have to get the landlord/manager in to look at it?
09:17 wizzyrea     oh crap!
09:17 kf           the link :)
09:17 cjh          isp says it is still working... *sigh*
09:17 kf           cool
09:17 wizzyrea     hahaha
09:17 cjh          kf: we moved houses and had the net working (despite my isp saying it wasnt installed yet), then an hour or 2 after the last quake the phoneline went down...
09:17 cjh          http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/56227454839/plan-deploy-aaaand-win
09:17 kf           eek - no internet makes me grumpy
09:17 wizzyrea     righty o
09:16 cjh          I don't have net at home atm so won't be online until tomorrow morning (when I get to work)
09:16 wizzyrea     psh it's nothing for friends
09:16 kf           wizzyrea++ :)
09:16 cjh          thanks for your time anyways :)
09:15 wizzyrea     ^.^
09:15 cjh          having a webserver allows for black magic :)
09:14 wizzyrea     ooo fancy fancy
09:14 cjh          packages and my pub keys :)
09:14 cjh          :)
09:14 cjh          http://segfault.net.nz/~chris/
09:14 wizzyrea     in the email ^.^
09:14 wizzyrea     I'd enclose your relevant keys
09:14 cjh          I am emailing rangi now :)
09:13 wizzyrea     I will get that sorted tomorrow though
09:13 cjh          thank you for trying :)
09:13 wizzyrea     humbug. sorry >.<
09:12 cjh          ok
09:11 wizzyrea     I know I had access to this at one point
09:11 wizzyrea     grr... trying one more thing
09:08 cjh          no biggy if you don't, it can always wait until morning :)
09:07 wizzyrea     I'm trying now -I feel like I should/do
09:07 cjh          awesome, so you have ssh access to bugs.koha-community.org?
09:07 wizzyrea     yep
09:06 cjh          you are free?
09:05 wizzyrea     ok sorry cjh
08:47 drojf        [off] cool
08:42 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "Détails sur la sortie de Koha 3.12.2 (en anglais) RT @KohaILS: #KohaILS Koha 3.12.2 released -http://t.co/kO1NFMYyK8"
08:33 kf           [off] mail from big geman academic library on koha mailing list
08:32 kf           yay
08:29 wizzyrea     haha
08:29 * cjh        rings soren to remind him how tired he is today...
08:28 cjh          I can look busy for 30 mins
08:28 wizzyrea     :/
08:28 wizzyrea     about 30 mins
08:28 cjh          heh, when is bedtime?
08:27 wizzyrea     i might be able to help ou but not until after bedtime
08:25 kf           maybe you could email galen or rangi?
08:25 kf           wondering who will wake up first
08:24 wizzyrea     hm
08:19 cjh          wasnt able to last time, jcamins helped me out :)
08:19 cjh          hmm I don't seem to have permission to scp files to bugs.koha-community.org as chrish
08:07 kf           cjh++ :)
07:47 wahanui      goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:47 dcook        night all
07:40 * dcook      is a one man karma increasing machine.
07:40 dcook        cjh++
07:38 cjh          heh thanks guys :)
07:37 kf           cjh: have fun :)
07:28 wizzyrea     hiyas
07:20 gaetan_B     hello
07:17 wizzyrea     glhf
07:12 cjh          ok time to work out this release thing...
07:07 dcook        [off] I don't care if you give me 100% off the wine. I'm still not going to order it on my phone.
07:07 dcook        [off] Telemarketing...ugh.
07:03 * wizzyrea   waves
06:59 kf           good morning #koha
06:49 christophe_c hello #koha
06:44 reiveune     hello
05:39 drojf        hi dcook
05:39 dcook        hey ya drojf :)
05:39 drojf        good morning #koha
04:16 mtj          hmm, i thought the tweeter was ignoring ReTweets...
04:04 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "#Koha RT @KohaILS: #KohaILS  Koha 3.12.2 released http://t.co/J7oa9jEFSp"
04:00 wahanui      That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, cjh
04:00 cjh          awesome.
03:59 dcook        cjh++
03:59 dcook        Looks good, cjh :)
03:55 dcook        Oh well. I'll deal with that later.
03:54 dcook        I just remembered that our local Koha uses some Perl modules from CPAN
03:54 dcook        Ahhh
03:53 cjh          :)
03:53 * dcook      shrugs
03:52 cjh          that is... odd
03:52 cjh          ahhhh
03:52 dcook        Originally, I just added your repo to my koha git
03:52 cjh          'the branch set to koha-gitify' ?
03:52 dcook        That's all :)
03:52 dcook        So apache gave me some warning messages
03:52 dcook        Makes sense. I had the branch set to koha-gitify though
03:51 wizzyrea     ^
03:51 cjh          unless you are using plack or something that caches things :)
03:51 cjh          dcook: you only need to restart apache when gitifying, not when changing branch
03:51 * dcook      waits for his VM to slowly check out the branch..
03:51 dcook        Although I had the wrong branch when I restarted apache
03:51 mtj          s/,/;/    ?
03:51 dcook        Looks good :)
03:51 cjh          as sudo, and then specify which koha instance and the git checkout/clone
03:50 mtj          dcook, cd koha-gitity; ./koha-gitify
03:50 mtj          ... travis should now catch those problems
03:50 mtj          joubu and i have sometimes broken the qa-tools repo with bad commits :/
03:49 cjh          dcook: documentation is a bit iffy :p
03:49 cjh          yes
03:49 dcook        Err root, using sudo..
03:49 dcook        Mmm, and run as sudo
03:48 cjh          you may need to 'chmod +x koha-gitify' first
03:48 dcook        Oh?
03:48 dcook        derp
03:48 cjh          dcook: cd koha-gitity, ./koha-gitify
03:48 dcook        cjh: How do I get this script to run?
03:47 dcook        Hmm
03:47 mtj          i thought i might try and get Koha building with travis next
03:46 mtj          wiz, yeah :)
03:46 cjh          heh
03:46 wizzyrea     is that like jenkins' cousin?
03:46 mtj          https://travis-ci.org/KohaAloha/qa-test-tools/builds/9202410
03:46 cjh          wizzyrea: I did my first pull request the other day, convuluted...
03:46 mtj          https://travis-ci.org/KohaAloha/qa-test-tools/builds
03:45 mtj          hey, speaking of github… i recently got the qa-tools repo working with travis
03:45 cjh          wizzyrea: there is also that, but I dont use github very much :)
03:45 dcook        Ahh, I see. This needs to be in its own repo as well...so that you can point to your koha repo
03:45 wizzyrea     then suggest that as a commit
03:44 wizzyrea     can't you do some trickery on github where you edit the file there
03:43 dcook        Cool beans :)
03:42 cjh          choose your workflow :)
03:42 cjh          make an issue and attach a patch there
03:42 dcook        Mmm, that's true
03:42 dcook        Then do a pull request?
03:42 cjh          dcook: or email me a git format-patch :)
03:42 cjh          so on github you would make a fork and push to that
03:41 cjh          dcook: well you can't push to it without me granting you access
03:41 dcook        Then if I want to push back to your repo, I need to use my own account?
03:41 * dcook      wishes that he understood the git protocol better
03:41 dcook        Yeah, that's what I was thinking
03:40 cjh          git clone https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify.git
03:40 dcook        So Github only uses http and ssh?
03:39 dcook        Other methods..
03:38 dcook        Hmm, I've never cloned from Github
03:38 dcook        Mmm, makes sense
03:38 cjh          you could always clone it and place it in /usr/sbin if you wanted, but I dont use it often enough to need it in my path.
03:38 dcook        Cool, I'll give that a go
03:38 dcook        Hmm, I could set up a remote for your Github too..
03:38 cjh          dcook: I just have a git clone at ~/devel/koha-gitify and run it manually
03:37 dcook        cjh: So I just drop "koha-gitify" into "usr/sbin"?
03:31 dcook        All right, I think I'm ready for gitify :)
03:31 dcook        And no pushing to a currently checked out branch...makes sense
03:30 dcook        Haven't angered anyone too much yet, I guess
03:30 dcook        Whew
03:30 huginn`      dcook: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28.
03:30 dcook        @karma dcook
03:29 cjh          decreased 0 time, that can't be right.
03:29 huginn`      dcook: Karma for "cjh" has been increased 34 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 34.
03:29 dcook        @karma cjh
03:28 cjh          my empire grows :)
03:27 dcook        cjh++
03:27 dcook        Much better :)
03:26 cjh          then set one to vim :)
03:26 dcook        Hmm, neither seems to be set
03:25 cjh          git config --global core-editor
03:25 cjh          or $VISUAL or git.core.editor setting :) glhf
03:25 cjh          echo $EDITOR
03:24 cjh          $EDITOR
03:24 dcook        Whoa, git. Why are you using nano instead of vim...
03:23 dcook        Might be able to give it more cpus..
03:23 dcook        Already upped its RAM
03:22 dcook        If only my VM were faster..
03:22 dcook        Agreed :)
03:22 cjh          <3 rebase
03:22 cjh          it makes life so much easier :)
03:22 dcook        I am constantly amazed by how powerful Git is though
03:22 dcook        Silly, git
03:22 dcook        Yeah, I did one of those at the start, as it thought I had modified some files
03:21 cjh          sometimes odd things happen and I also need to `git reset --hard HEAD`
03:21 dcook        In practice, it did :)
03:19 cjh          so in theory that should remove everything that isn't useful
03:19 dcook        cjh++
03:19 dcook        cjh: Beautiful :). Thanks again!
03:19 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @nzKoha: "Your monthly instalment of #KohaILS is ready! Pick it up 3.12.2 at http://t.co/qA73lKSXIB"
03:19 cjh          -x for removing files that git usually ignores
03:19 wizzyrea     :P
03:19 wizzyrea     dunno what x is
03:19 wizzyrea     -f for force, -d for directories
03:18 cjh          magical even
03:18 * cjh        makes magicl gestures
03:18 dcook        or maybe -X
03:18 dcook        -x looks pretty good :D
03:18 cjh          or something :)
03:18 cjh          git clean -f -d -x
03:17 cjh          you may have to run it with an army of flags
03:17 dcook        It's not removing a few files though
03:17 dcook        Hmm, that helped
03:16 cjh          as long as those files are added and committed somewhere then they are safe to remove
03:16 dcook        They're from git.koha-community.org, but they're just floating around
03:16 cjh          git clean
03:16 dcook        It looks like some files have become "unhinged"
03:16 wahanui      cjh: huh?
03:16 cjh          wahanui: you will pay for this.
03:16 wahanui      i don't know, cjh
03:16 cjh          wahanui: be dcook is <reply>what did you do and what are you trying to do
03:16 dcook        Ouch :p
03:15 wahanui      cjh: no idea
03:15 cjh          wahanui: ask dcook is <reply>what did you do and what are you trying to do
03:15 dcook        hehe
03:15 cjh          what did you do and what are you trying to do
03:15 dcook        Ugh...something nasty has happened..
03:09 cjh          on my desktop I am more liberal and often ssh-agent knows about far too many keys
03:09 cjh          I have many keys for different things, and ssh-agent only ever knows about the key(s) I am using at that time :)
03:08 jcamins      cjh: oh, I see. I only use ssh-agent for the ssh key I use regularly.
03:08 cjh          the idea being if I am not working on koha then my koha keys shouldnt be unlocked etc.
03:08 cjh          yes I have ssh-agent running, but optionally add/remove keys based on usage
03:07 dcook        I'll have to keep that in mind as well
03:07 cjh          I generally only unlock my keys when I want to do something with them
03:07 jcamins      And ssh-add
03:07 jcamins      ssh-agent
03:07 dcook        Intriguing..
03:07 jcamins      I unlock my keys at login using... something... but it requires me entering a second password.
03:07 cjh          but I will sometimes use ssh-add to unlock my keys if I plan to use them many times in a row
03:06 cjh          I don't unlock my keys on login as I use a different password for them
03:06 cjh          you can have either
03:06 cjh          password protected at the local level, as in when I generated my ssh keys I provided a password
03:06 dcook        cjh: Makes sense. So do you mean password-protected at the login level or closer to the actual usage of those keys?
03:04 cjh          dcook: yes, all my ssh keys require passwords to use them, so if someone steals my computer they cannot use my keys.
03:04 Oak          hey dcook
03:04 dcook        Password-protected keys?
02:59 cjh          I use keys, but the keys are password-protected.
02:59 cjh          dcook: I dont ever use passwords for ssh
02:56 dcook        hey Oak
02:56 * Oak        waves
02:56 dcook        I suppose using passwords for fetching and pushing wouldn't be super irritating, but..
02:56 dcook        I take it you guys must use keys rather than passwords as well
02:55 dcook        Thanks cjh :)
02:55 dcook        Much better
02:53 cjh          :)
02:53 dcook        That would help if I actually fetched from it
02:53 cjh          git checkout arbitrary-name/some-branch
02:53 dcook        Mmm
02:53 cjh          git fetch --all
02:53 cjh          git remote add arbitrary-name git://some-path
02:53 dcook        I'm just trying to check out a new branch :S
02:53 jcamins      ^^ exactly
02:53 cjh          what did you do and what are you trying to do
02:52 dcook        fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. Did you intend to checkout 'pro/pro38' which can not be resolved as commit?
02:52 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @KohaILS: "#KohaILS  Koha 3.12.2 released http://t.co/0LUFLyH4GD"
02:52 dcook        I keep getting the following:
02:52 dcook        Hmm, I wonder what I'm missing.
02:48 cjh          hmm spacing screwed up, meant to be catalyst git+ssh://chrish@git.catalyst.net.nz/git/public/koha.git
02:48 cjh          catalystgit+ssh://chrish@git.catalyst.net.nz/git/public/koha.git
02:48 cjh          git remote -vv
02:46 dcook        I'm thinking that's probably my best bet, eh?
02:46 jcamins      I use SSH.
02:45 dcook        How do folks track other git repos\ on their LAN?
02:45 dcook        Hmm, not working so well..
02:36 dcook        Sweet. I'm going to give that a go in a moment once I set up this remote repo
02:35 wahanui      de rien cjh
02:35 cjh          wahanui: thanks.
02:35 cjh          it also sets that :)
02:35 dcook        Yeah, I just noticed that
02:35 wahanui      i guess PERL5LIB is set to /home/koha/kohaclone
02:35 cjh          PERL5LIB?
02:35 dcook        Oh wait...
02:34 dcook        Right. I mean the modules in C4 and Koha
02:34 cjh          dcook: it doesnt handle install, as teh instance must already be set up.
02:34 cjh          all gitify does it change a koha instance from using /user/share to a specified git checkout
02:34 dcook        What about the perl modules?
02:33 wahanui      cjh: that doesn't look right
02:33 cjh          well, change the links
02:33 dcook        cgi-bin and htdocs?
02:33 cjh          dcook: that is all it needs to do :)
02:33 dcook        cjh: I looked at gitify a bit but it looks like it just links a few directories?
02:32 * dcook      is setting up a dev vm :)
02:32 dcook        The instructions I left myself are...silly
02:32 dcook        That makes much more sense
02:32 jcamins      In kohaclone, use git remote add.
02:32 cjh          no, man git remote add
02:32 jcamins      No, definitely not!
02:31 dcook        Do I clone into the same directory?
02:31 dcook        I also want to point to another remote repo though..
02:31 dcook        I have a recent "kohaclone" tracking from git.koha-community.org
02:31 dcook        Hmm, quick git question, if you have time
02:30 dcook        I ended up using a hidden element which seems to work fine, but I hate creating ugly workarounds for IE7 and older
02:30 dcook        Navbar!
02:29 jcamins      Well, at least I managed to get the navbar on the bottom for tablets.
02:24 jcamins      And navbars on tablets.
02:22 jcamins      I want breakpoints that are not 768/1024/1200.
02:21 wahanui      the scenario is a problematic patch across versions.
02:21 dcook        What's the scenario?
02:21 dcook        Ouch
02:21 dcook        So it sends the search query via ajax to a processing script, and if it saves, the button disables itself and any other buttons on the same page linked to the same query
02:21 jcamins      If it makes you feel any better, I've hit a point where Bootstrap's responsive layout gives me The Look and walks away, leaving my layout a mess.
02:20 dcook        And now I've added in buttons on the search history page where you can add a past search query to your list of "interests" to track
02:20 dcook        Basically, I created a mailing list feature that relies on search queries
02:19 jcamins      dcook: awww.
02:19 dcook        jcamins: I don't think that's an option in this case :/
02:18 jcamins      dcook: we usually use inputs for buttons that are getting submitted.
02:09 * dcook      grimaces
02:09 dcook        But still...
02:09 dcook        Where button elements were more like submit elements...
02:09 dcook        I suppose it could've been a different time
02:08 dcook        Why on Earth...would older versions of IE use the innerHTML of a button as the element value rather than the actual value attribute?!?!
02:08 dcook        IE--
01:16 rambutan     good night tcohen
01:13 tcohen       bye!
01:13 tcohen       night #koha, hope everyone enjoys the release
01:08 rambutan     whoami
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00:37 dcook        Well, trailing commas and IE7 being such garbage...
00:36 dcook        Or not...
00:35 dcook        Luckily, it was just trailing commas...
00:28 dcook        IE--
00:26 tcohen       which will finish first? uploading using this slow connection or jenkins?
00:17 dcook        Have fun!
00:17 dcook        Nope, they aren't commented out
00:17 tcohen       oh, gotta upload the release :-D
00:17 tcohen       there should be 3 or 4 lines related to bash completion, commented out
00:17 tcohen       edit /etc/bash.bashrc
00:17 dcook        Mm, but possibly on a different file system
00:16 dcook        Hmm, looks like it is installed
00:16 tcohen       zypper install bash-completion maybe?
00:16 dcook        And not so much run, as use
00:16 wahanui      openSuse is not used by many developers, and will likely be difficult to get Koha working with.
00:16 dcook        openSuse
00:16 tcohen       ?
00:16 tcohen       oh, what do you run
00:16 dcook        Although I really should..
00:16 dcook        I don't run a Debian system ;)
00:15 tcohen       sudo apt-get install bash-completion
00:15 dcook        I doubt it?
00:15 dcook        I just saw that on a forum ;)
00:15 tcohen       do u have bash-completion installed?
00:12 dcook        __git_ps1: command not found
00:11 tcohen       should have said *trailing* right eythian?
00:11 dcook        Don't know?
00:10 tcohen       the ending '?
00:09 dcook        Hmm, looks like I pasted in something wrong..
00:09 tcohen       (shows the current branch you're on, and even if you're in the middle of a cherry-pick, am or rebase ;))
00:08 dcook        I was thinking more so for printing for other people, but I might have to try this too
00:08 dcook        Hmm, cool
00:08 tcohen       some colors for the terminal, and a nice trick when browsing git dirs
00:07 dcook        Clever, wahanui :p
00:07 wahanui      that is a good idea.
00:07 dcook        tcohen: What's that?
00:07 pastebot     "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "try this at the end of .bashrc dcook" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/133
00:05 * dcook      might use that sometime..
00:05 dcook        Whoa...so that's how you get to print color as well..
00:04 tcohen       heh
00:04 dcook        That's the first time I've ever actually run that script too..
00:04 dcook        But yeah, it looks good
00:04 tcohen       i'll fix it in the email I think, thanks dcook
00:03 dcook        Well, I'd put "perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u", but I don't think it really matters
00:03 tcohen       that is meant to be part of the release notes
00:02 tcohen       ?
00:02 tcohen       does it even *look* ok
00:01 tcohen       sorry dcook, was taking about that paste
00:00 pastebot     "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Koha 3.12.2 is a bugfix/mainte" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132
00:00 dcook        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy,_Texas
00:00 dcook        On a side note, it turns out that there is a town called "Italy" in Texas
00:00 dcook        ?
00:00 tcohen       would you #koha like to check this?