Time Nick Message 00:00 tcohen would you #koha like to check this? 00:00 dcook ? 00:00 dcook On a side note, it turns out that there is a town called "Italy" in Texas 00:00 dcook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy,_Texas 00:00 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Koha 3.12.2 is a bugfix/mainte" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/132 00:01 tcohen sorry dcook, was taking about that paste 00:02 tcohen does it even *look* ok 00:02 tcohen ? 00:03 tcohen that is meant to be part of the release notes 00:03 dcook Well, I'd put "perl koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u", but I don't think it really matters 00:04 tcohen i'll fix it in the email I think, thanks dcook 00:04 dcook But yeah, it looks good 00:04 dcook That's the first time I've ever actually run that script too.. 00:04 tcohen heh 00:05 dcook Whoa...so that's how you get to print color as well.. 00:05 * dcook might use that sometime.. 00:07 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "try this at the end of .bashrc dcook" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/133 00:07 dcook tcohen: What's that? 00:07 wahanui that is a good idea. 00:07 dcook Clever, wahanui :p 00:08 tcohen some colors for the terminal, and a nice trick when browsing git dirs 00:08 dcook Hmm, cool 00:08 dcook I was thinking more so for printing for other people, but I might have to try this too 00:09 tcohen (shows the current branch you're on, and even if you're in the middle of a cherry-pick, am or rebase ;)) 00:09 dcook Hmm, looks like I pasted in something wrong.. 00:10 tcohen the ending '? 00:11 dcook Don't know? 00:11 tcohen should have said *trailing* right eythian? 00:12 dcook __git_ps1: command not found 00:15 tcohen do u have bash-completion installed? 00:15 dcook I just saw that on a forum ;) 00:15 dcook I doubt it? 00:15 tcohen sudo apt-get install bash-completion 00:16 dcook I don't run a Debian system ;) 00:16 dcook Although I really should.. 00:16 tcohen oh, what do you run 00:16 tcohen ? 00:16 dcook openSuse 00:16 wahanui openSuse is not used by many developers, and will likely be difficult to get Koha working with. 00:16 dcook And not so much run, as use 00:16 tcohen zypper install bash-completion maybe? 00:16 dcook Hmm, looks like it is installed 00:17 dcook Mm, but possibly on a different file system 00:17 tcohen edit /etc/bash.bashrc 00:17 tcohen there should be 3 or 4 lines related to bash completion, commented out 00:17 tcohen oh, gotta upload the release :-D 00:17 dcook Nope, they aren't commented out 00:17 dcook Have fun! 00:26 tcohen which will finish first? uploading using this slow connection or jenkins? 00:28 dcook IE-- 00:35 dcook Luckily, it was just trailing commas... 00:36 dcook Or not... 00:37 dcook Well, trailing commas and IE7 being such garbage... 01:01 tweetbot [off] twitter: @CatalystNZ: "The latest #KohaILS library at Catalyst, Dept of Corrections: http://t.co/KN9BQB71CT" 01:08 rambutan whoami 01:13 tcohen night #koha, hope everyone enjoys the release 01:13 tcohen bye! 01:16 rambutan good night tcohen 02:08 dcook IE-- 02:08 dcook Why on Earth...would older versions of IE use the innerHTML of a button as the element value rather than the actual value attribute?!?! 02:09 dcook I suppose it could've been a different time 02:09 dcook Where button elements were more like submit elements... 02:09 dcook But still... 02:09 * dcook grimaces 02:18 jcamins dcook: we usually use inputs for buttons that are getting submitted. 02:19 dcook jcamins: I don't think that's an option in this case :/ 02:19 jcamins dcook: awww. 02:20 dcook Basically, I created a mailing list feature that relies on search queries 02:20 dcook And now I've added in buttons on the search history page where you can add a past search query to your list of "interests" to track 02:21 jcamins If it makes you feel any better, I've hit a point where Bootstrap's responsive layout gives me The Look and walks away, leaving my layout a mess. 02:21 dcook So it sends the search query via ajax to a processing script, and if it saves, the button disables itself and any other buttons on the same page linked to the same query 02:21 dcook Ouch 02:21 dcook What's the scenario? 02:21 wahanui the scenario is a problematic patch across versions. 02:22 jcamins I want breakpoints that are not 768/1024/1200. 02:24 jcamins And navbars on tablets. 02:29 jcamins Well, at least I managed to get the navbar on the bottom for tablets. 02:30 dcook Navbar! 02:30 dcook I ended up using a hidden element which seems to work fine, but I hate creating ugly workarounds for IE7 and older 02:31 dcook Hmm, quick git question, if you have time 02:31 dcook I have a recent "kohaclone" tracking from git.koha-community.org 02:31 dcook I also want to point to another remote repo though.. 02:31 dcook Do I clone into the same directory? 02:32 jcamins No, definitely not! 02:32 cjh no, man git remote add 02:32 jcamins In kohaclone, use git remote add. 02:32 dcook That makes much more sense 02:32 dcook The instructions I left myself are...silly 02:32 * dcook is setting up a dev vm :) 02:33 dcook cjh: I looked at gitify a bit but it looks like it just links a few directories? 02:33 cjh dcook: that is all it needs to do :) 02:33 dcook cgi-bin and htdocs? 02:33 cjh well, change the links 02:33 wahanui cjh: that doesn't look right 02:34 dcook What about the perl modules? 02:34 cjh all gitify does it change a koha instance from using /user/share to a specified git checkout 02:34 cjh dcook: it doesnt handle install, as teh instance must already be set up. 02:34 dcook Right. I mean the modules in C4 and Koha 02:35 dcook Oh wait... 02:35 cjh PERL5LIB? 02:35 wahanui i guess PERL5LIB is set to /home/koha/kohaclone 02:35 dcook Yeah, I just noticed that 02:35 cjh it also sets that :) 02:35 cjh wahanui: thanks. 02:35 wahanui de rien cjh 02:36 dcook Sweet. I'm going to give that a go in a moment once I set up this remote repo 02:45 dcook Hmm, not working so well.. 02:45 dcook How do folks track other git repos\ on their LAN? 02:46 jcamins I use SSH. 02:46 dcook I'm thinking that's probably my best bet, eh? 02:48 cjh git remote -vv 02:48 cjh catalystgit+ssh://chrish@git.catalyst.net.nz/git/public/koha.git 02:48 cjh hmm spacing screwed up, meant to be catalyst git+ssh://chrish@git.catalyst.net.nz/git/public/koha.git 02:52 dcook Hmm, I wonder what I'm missing. 02:52 dcook I keep getting the following: 02:52 tweetbot [off] twitter: @KohaILS: "#KohaILS Koha 3.12.2 released http://t.co/0LUFLyH4GD" 02:52 dcook fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches. Did you intend to checkout 'pro/pro38' which can not be resolved as commit? 02:53 cjh what did you do and what are you trying to do 02:53 jcamins ^^ exactly 02:53 dcook I'm just trying to check out a new branch :S 02:53 cjh git remote add arbitrary-name git://some-path 02:53 cjh git fetch --all 02:53 dcook Mmm 02:53 cjh git checkout arbitrary-name/some-branch 02:53 dcook That would help if I actually fetched from it 02:53 cjh :) 02:55 dcook Much better 02:55 dcook Thanks cjh :) 02:56 dcook I take it you guys must use keys rather than passwords as well 02:56 dcook I suppose using passwords for fetching and pushing wouldn't be super irritating, but.. 02:56 * Oak waves 02:56 dcook hey Oak 02:59 cjh dcook: I dont ever use passwords for ssh 02:59 cjh I use keys, but the keys are password-protected. 03:04 dcook Password-protected keys? 03:04 Oak hey dcook 03:04 cjh dcook: yes, all my ssh keys require passwords to use them, so if someone steals my computer they cannot use my keys. 03:06 dcook cjh: Makes sense. So do you mean password-protected at the login level or closer to the actual usage of those keys? 03:06 cjh password protected at the local level, as in when I generated my ssh keys I provided a password 03:06 cjh you can have either 03:06 cjh I don't unlock my keys on login as I use a different password for them 03:07 cjh but I will sometimes use ssh-add to unlock my keys if I plan to use them many times in a row 03:07 jcamins I unlock my keys at login using... something... but it requires me entering a second password. 03:07 dcook Intriguing.. 03:07 jcamins ssh-agent 03:07 jcamins And ssh-add 03:07 cjh I generally only unlock my keys when I want to do something with them 03:07 dcook I'll have to keep that in mind as well 03:08 cjh yes I have ssh-agent running, but optionally add/remove keys based on usage 03:08 cjh the idea being if I am not working on koha then my koha keys shouldnt be unlocked etc. 03:08 jcamins cjh: oh, I see. I only use ssh-agent for the ssh key I use regularly. 03:09 cjh I have many keys for different things, and ssh-agent only ever knows about the key(s) I am using at that time :) 03:09 cjh on my desktop I am more liberal and often ssh-agent knows about far too many keys 03:15 dcook Ugh...something nasty has happened.. 03:15 cjh what did you do and what are you trying to do 03:15 dcook hehe 03:15 cjh wahanui: ask dcook is <reply>what did you do and what are you trying to do 03:15 wahanui cjh: no idea 03:16 dcook Ouch :p 03:16 cjh wahanui: be dcook is <reply>what did you do and what are you trying to do 03:16 wahanui i don't know, cjh 03:16 cjh wahanui: you will pay for this. 03:16 wahanui cjh: huh? 03:16 dcook It looks like some files have become "unhinged" 03:16 cjh git clean 03:16 dcook They're from git.koha-community.org, but they're just floating around 03:16 cjh as long as those files are added and committed somewhere then they are safe to remove 03:17 dcook Hmm, that helped 03:17 dcook It's not removing a few files though 03:17 cjh you may have to run it with an army of flags 03:18 cjh git clean -f -d -x 03:18 cjh or something :) 03:18 dcook -x looks pretty good :D 03:18 dcook or maybe -X 03:18 * cjh makes magicl gestures 03:18 cjh magical even 03:19 wizzyrea -f for force, -d for directories 03:19 wizzyrea dunno what x is 03:19 wizzyrea :P 03:19 cjh -x for removing files that git usually ignores 03:19 tweetbot [off] twitter: @nzKoha: "Your monthly instalment of #KohaILS is ready! Pick it up 3.12.2 at http://t.co/qA73lKSXIB" 03:19 dcook cjh: Beautiful :). Thanks again! 03:19 dcook cjh++ 03:19 cjh so in theory that should remove everything that isn't useful 03:21 dcook In practice, it did :) 03:21 cjh sometimes odd things happen and I also need to `git reset --hard HEAD` 03:22 dcook Yeah, I did one of those at the start, as it thought I had modified some files 03:22 dcook Silly, git 03:22 dcook I am constantly amazed by how powerful Git is though 03:22 cjh it makes life so much easier :) 03:22 cjh <3 rebase 03:22 dcook Agreed :) 03:22 dcook If only my VM were faster.. 03:23 dcook Already upped its RAM 03:23 dcook Might be able to give it more cpus.. 03:24 dcook Whoa, git. Why are you using nano instead of vim... 03:24 cjh $EDITOR 03:25 cjh echo $EDITOR 03:25 cjh or $VISUAL or git.core.editor setting :) glhf 03:25 cjh git config --global core-editor 03:26 dcook Hmm, neither seems to be set 03:26 cjh then set one to vim :) 03:27 dcook Much better :) 03:27 dcook cjh++ 03:28 cjh my empire grows :) 03:29 dcook @karma cjh 03:29 huginn` dcook: Karma for "cjh" has been increased 34 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 34. 03:29 cjh decreased 0 time, that can't be right. 03:30 dcook @karma dcook 03:30 huginn` dcook: Karma for "dcook" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. 03:30 dcook Whew 03:30 dcook Haven't angered anyone too much yet, I guess 03:31 dcook And no pushing to a currently checked out branch...makes sense 03:31 dcook All right, I think I'm ready for gitify :) 03:37 dcook cjh: So I just drop "koha-gitify" into "usr/sbin"? 03:38 cjh dcook: I just have a git clone at ~/devel/koha-gitify and run it manually 03:38 dcook Hmm, I could set up a remote for your Github too.. 03:38 dcook Cool, I'll give that a go 03:38 cjh you could always clone it and place it in /usr/sbin if you wanted, but I dont use it often enough to need it in my path. 03:38 dcook Mmm, makes sense 03:38 dcook Hmm, I've never cloned from Github 03:39 dcook Other methods.. 03:40 dcook So Github only uses http and ssh? 03:40 cjh git clone https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify.git 03:41 dcook Yeah, that's what I was thinking 03:41 * dcook wishes that he understood the git protocol better 03:41 dcook Then if I want to push back to your repo, I need to use my own account? 03:41 cjh dcook: well you can't push to it without me granting you access 03:42 cjh so on github you would make a fork and push to that 03:42 cjh dcook: or email me a git format-patch :) 03:42 dcook Then do a pull request? 03:42 dcook Mmm, that's true 03:42 cjh make an issue and attach a patch there 03:42 cjh choose your workflow :) 03:43 dcook Cool beans :) 03:44 wizzyrea can't you do some trickery on github where you edit the file there 03:45 wizzyrea then suggest that as a commit 03:45 dcook Ahh, I see. This needs to be in its own repo as well...so that you can point to your koha repo 03:45 cjh wizzyrea: there is also that, but I dont use github very much :) 03:45 mtj hey, speaking of github… i recently got the qa-tools repo working with travis 03:46 mtj https://travis-ci.org/KohaAloha/qa-test-tools/builds 03:46 cjh wizzyrea: I did my first pull request the other day, convuluted... 03:46 mtj https://travis-ci.org/KohaAloha/qa-test-tools/builds/9202410 03:46 wizzyrea is that like jenkins' cousin? 03:46 cjh heh 03:46 mtj wiz, yeah :) 03:47 mtj i thought i might try and get Koha building with travis next 03:47 dcook Hmm 03:48 dcook cjh: How do I get this script to run? 03:48 cjh dcook: cd koha-gitity, ./koha-gitify 03:48 dcook derp 03:48 dcook Oh? 03:48 cjh you may need to 'chmod +x koha-gitify' first 03:49 dcook Mmm, and run as sudo 03:49 dcook Err root, using sudo.. 03:49 cjh yes 03:49 cjh dcook: documentation is a bit iffy :p 03:50 mtj joubu and i have sometimes broken the qa-tools repo with bad commits :/ 03:50 mtj ... travis should now catch those problems 03:50 mtj dcook, cd koha-gitity; ./koha-gitify 03:51 cjh as sudo, and then specify which koha instance and the git checkout/clone 03:51 dcook Looks good :) 03:51 mtj s/,/;/ ? 03:51 dcook Although I had the wrong branch when I restarted apache 03:51 * dcook waits for his VM to slowly check out the branch.. 03:51 cjh dcook: you only need to restart apache when gitifying, not when changing branch 03:51 cjh unless you are using plack or something that caches things :) 03:51 wizzyrea ^ 03:52 dcook Makes sense. I had the branch set to koha-gitify though 03:52 dcook So apache gave me some warning messages 03:52 dcook That's all :) 03:52 cjh 'the branch set to koha-gitify' ? 03:52 dcook Originally, I just added your repo to my koha git 03:52 cjh ahhhh 03:52 cjh that is... odd 03:53 * dcook shrugs 03:53 cjh :) 03:54 dcook Ahhh 03:54 dcook I just remembered that our local Koha uses some Perl modules from CPAN 03:55 dcook Oh well. I'll deal with that later. 03:59 dcook Looks good, cjh :) 03:59 dcook cjh++ 04:00 cjh awesome. 04:00 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, cjh 04:04 tweetbot [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "#Koha RT @KohaILS: #KohaILS Koha 3.12.2 released http://t.co/J7oa9jEFSp" 04:16 mtj hmm, i thought the tweeter was ignoring ReTweets... 05:39 drojf good morning #koha 05:39 dcook hey ya drojf :) 05:39 drojf hi dcook 06:44 reiveune hello 06:49 christophe_c hello #koha 06:59 kf good morning #koha 07:03 * wizzyrea waves 07:07 dcook [off] Telemarketing...ugh. 07:07 dcook [off] I don't care if you give me 100% off the wine. I'm still not going to order it on my phone. 07:12 cjh ok time to work out this release thing... 07:17 wizzyrea glhf 07:20 gaetan_B hello 07:28 wizzyrea hiyas 07:37 kf cjh: have fun :) 07:38 cjh heh thanks guys :) 07:40 dcook cjh++ 07:40 * dcook is a one man karma increasing machine. 07:47 dcook night all 07:47 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back. 08:07 kf cjh++ :) 08:19 cjh hmm I don't seem to have permission to scp files to bugs.koha-community.org as chrish 08:19 cjh wasnt able to last time, jcamins helped me out :) 08:24 wizzyrea hm 08:25 kf wondering who will wake up first 08:25 kf maybe you could email galen or rangi? 08:27 wizzyrea i might be able to help ou but not until after bedtime 08:28 cjh heh, when is bedtime? 08:28 wizzyrea about 30 mins 08:28 wizzyrea :/ 08:28 cjh I can look busy for 30 mins 08:29 * cjh rings soren to remind him how tired he is today... 08:29 wizzyrea haha 08:32 kf yay 08:33 kf [off] mail from big geman academic library on koha mailing list 08:42 tweetbot [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "Détails sur la sortie de Koha 3.12.2 (en anglais) RT @KohaILS: #KohaILS Koha 3.12.2 released -http://t.co/kO1NFMYyK8" 08:47 drojf [off] cool 09:05 wizzyrea ok sorry cjh 09:06 cjh you are free? 09:07 wizzyrea yep 09:07 cjh awesome, so you have ssh access to bugs.koha-community.org? 09:07 wizzyrea I'm trying now -I feel like I should/do 09:08 cjh no biggy if you don't, it can always wait until morning :) 09:11 wizzyrea grr... trying one more thing 09:11 wizzyrea I know I had access to this at one point 09:12 cjh ok 09:13 wizzyrea humbug. sorry >.< 09:13 cjh thank you for trying :) 09:13 wizzyrea I will get that sorted tomorrow though 09:14 cjh I am emailing rangi now :) 09:14 wizzyrea I'd enclose your relevant keys 09:14 wizzyrea in the email ^.^ 09:14 cjh http://segfault.net.nz/~chris/ 09:14 cjh :) 09:14 cjh packages and my pub keys :) 09:14 wizzyrea ooo fancy fancy 09:15 cjh having a webserver allows for black magic :) 09:15 wizzyrea ^.^ 09:16 cjh thanks for your time anyways :) 09:16 kf wizzyrea++ :) 09:16 wizzyrea psh it's nothing for friends 09:16 cjh I don't have net at home atm so won't be online until tomorrow morning (when I get to work) 09:17 wizzyrea righty o 09:17 kf eek - no internet makes me grumpy 09:17 cjh http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/56227454839/plan-deploy-aaaand-win 09:17 cjh kf: we moved houses and had the net working (despite my isp saying it wasnt installed yet), then an hour or 2 after the last quake the phoneline went down... 09:17 wizzyrea hahaha 09:17 kf cool 09:17 cjh isp says it is still working... *sigh* 09:17 kf the link :) 09:17 wizzyrea oh crap! 09:18 wizzyrea so you have to get the landlord/manager in to look at it? 09:18 cjh so they have called a tech to wander round over the next few days, it is killing me 09:18 wizzyrea ! 09:18 wizzyrea terrible. 09:18 cjh I think it is a fault on their end, the phone number they assigned to us also wasnt working 09:18 cjh if I called the number it would ring forever but our phone wouldnt ring, and if that number called me it would come up as 'anonymous number' 09:18 * wizzyrea got her backup SIM card today 09:19 cjh \o/ 09:19 cjh wizzyrea: welcome to wellington xD 09:19 wizzyrea so now I have a vodaphone and a telecom ;) 09:19 cjh wizzyrea and trea can now be called real wellingtonians now :) 09:19 wizzyrea as I understand it, we've been present for about the absolute worst wellington has to offer now 09:20 wizzyrea winter southerly storms, and earthquakes (though no, not "the big one") 09:20 cjh requirements: a) freak out over large quake, b) eat a mince pie 09:20 kf :) 09:20 wizzyrea but at least as bad as anything in a generation 09:20 wizzyrea done and ... done 09:20 * kf wants to come back to wellington some time too for a visit 09:20 cjh I had a german friend over a few years back, he had lived in new zealand for a few years at the time, for dinner we served him a mince pie, he had no idea what to do with it. 09:21 wizzyrea you eat it. duh. 09:21 wizzyrea :) 09:21 cjh he found it strange and he wasn't a fan, rest assured he has now mastered the meat pie :) 09:22 wizzyrea this used to be me at NEKLS: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55859109938/getting-interrupted-while-dealing-with-an-outage 09:22 cjh assimilate. 09:22 cjh hahhah 09:22 wizzyrea because if something went down 09:22 wizzyrea 40 libraries called AT THE SAME TIME. 09:22 cjh T.T 09:22 wizzyrea and the receptionist would put them all through. 09:22 wizzyrea one after another. 09:23 wizzyrea "yes, it's down. No I don't know when. I'm talking to you instead of fixing it." 09:23 cjh wizzyrea: you need https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtXtIivRRKQ 09:23 cjh kf: you can come over and try our mince and cheese pies :) 09:23 wizzyrea hahaha yea, I thought about that. 09:24 kf :) 09:24 wizzyrea http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that 09:24 kf i had maccaroni with cheese microwave thing when i got sick last time... i suvived that so i am not afraid of pies 09:25 wizzyrea paying licensing for a proprietary ILS is <reply> http://media.tumblr.com/6975654124d5729b22abb6c97bf3010d/tumblr_inline_mpl4bepowL1qz4rgp.gif 09:25 cjh wizzyrea: the 'sounds good lets try' is also called 'refactoring acquisitons' 09:26 cjh kf: heh brave! 09:26 cjh wizzyrea: you didnt say it at wizzyrea 09:26 cjh wahanui: & 09:26 wahanui cjh: what? 09:26 wizzyrea refactoring acquisitions is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that 09:26 cjh wahanui: acquistions is <reply>http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that 09:26 wahanui OK, cjh. 09:27 wizzyrea refactoring acquisitions? 09:27 wahanui http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that 09:27 wizzyrea we should rewrite Koha in PHP is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that 09:27 cjh heh 09:27 * wizzyrea laughs a lot 09:28 kf cjh: i felt realyl bad 09:28 kf bbl 09:30 wizzyrea i really want to add one for every language that's ever been suggested. 09:30 cjh home time, good bye internet 09:30 cjh wizzyrea: also add it for python 09:30 wizzyrea i am seriously laughing my posterior off. 09:30 wizzyrea just thinking about it 09:31 wizzyrea we should rewrite Koha in Python is <reply> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/55161526119/sounds-good-lets-try-that 09:32 wizzyrea now I want to start a Koha Dev tumblr. 09:32 wizzyrea because I need something else to look after. 10:00 wizzyrea kohadevreactions.tumblr.com >.> 10:31 kf back 10:57 wizzyrea wb 10:59 kf wizzyrea++ 11:06 wizzyrea ^.^ 11:55 kf jcamins++ 12:09 oleonard Hi #koha 12:24 kf hi oleonard :) 12:25 * oleonard is wearing a new scent today, known as "Spilled Coffee on Myself." 12:25 kf heh 12:25 kf that sounds lovely 12:26 wizzyrea better than "baby spit up" 12:27 oleonard True. I'm so well-trained to avoid baby spit up that I still don't get dressed in my work clothes until I'm about to leave. And it's been years since my kids were babies. 12:28 jcamins Since I know you're also desperate for royal gossip, I present to you a friend's suggestion for what I should bake next: http://www.kingarthurflour.com/blog/2011/04/13/wills-and-kates-wedding-cake-%E2%80%93-whats-the-secret/ 12:30 jcamins Unfortunately, it requires baking the cookies. 12:35 wizzyrea naw, go get some from the store! 12:35 wizzyrea lorna doone's 12:35 wizzyrea we have some coconut biscuits here that would be amazing in something like that 12:35 jcamins wizzyrea: isn't it extraordinarily late for you? 12:36 kf jcamins: i already told her, she is not listening :) 12:38 wizzyrea 12:30 :) I'm going soon 12:54 tcohen did the release announcement reach the forum? 12:54 jcamins koha-gitify 12:54 jcamins koha-gitify? 12:54 jcamins koha gitify? 12:54 jcamins gitify? 12:54 wahanui it has been said that gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify 12:56 khall can anyone explain why AutomaticItemReturn has *anything* to do with building the holds queue? I cannot for the life of me understand why, but it's even in the unit test! 12:57 jcamins khall: poor specification? 12:57 jcamins That's the only explanation I can come up with. 12:57 khall jcamins, I couldn't agree more. You can see my ranting on bug 10628 12:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10628 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , AutomaticItemReturn prevents holds queue from filling local holds with local items 12:58 khall my fix causes HoldsQueue.t to fail in such a schizophrenic way it's melting my brain. 13:00 * jcamins sets up LXC+koha-gitify for maximum awesomeness. 13:00 oleonard jcamins: The purpose of koha-gitify is to allow the ease of installation of a package but give you git control? 13:00 jcamins oleonard: right. 13:00 jcamins oleonard: well, plus it allows you to not worry about cron jobs, etc. 13:00 * khall wants this 13:00 oleonard What is LXC? 13:00 wahanui LXC is really cool. 13:00 oleonard wahanui: :P 13:00 wahanui well, P is part I know 13:02 jcamins oleonard: it allows me to run a complete Ubuntu installation in a container on my existing server. 13:02 jcamins It's like chroot on steroids. 13:03 jcamins Woohoo! Blazing fast transfer speeds! 13:04 jcamins Of course, even faster would've been just using cp instead of git clone. 13:07 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "The Henry Carter Hull Library Chooses ByWater Solutions’ Koha Support http://t.co/xPDANRPLJm #KohaILS" 13:09 kf bug 5202 13:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Merge authority records 13:32 kf thx khall :) 14:07 gmcharlt @quote random 14:07 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #35: "<sekjal> it seemed like a good idea at the time...." (added by jwagner at 06:58 PM, September 17, 2009) 14:09 gmcharlt hmm, that postdates adding MARC support ;) 14:10 kf hi gmcharlt :) 14:19 druthb @quote random 14:19 huginn` druthb: Quote #161: "* wizzyrea prefers pricks" (added by kf at 02:18 PM, October 18, 2011) 14:24 kf rangi made me do it. 14:25 jcamins Apache-- 14:27 druthb @excuse 14:27 huginn` druthb: My excuse for today is "Slashdot" 14:27 druthb oooh. 14:28 kf @excuse 14:28 huginn` kf: My excuse for today is "Slashdot" 14:37 tweetbot [off] twitter: @KohaILS: "#KohaILS The Henry Carter Hull Library Chooses ByWater Solutions’ Koha Support http://t.co/mBOvxAnhmk" 15:01 oleonard It would be nice to have documentation on what preferences are supposed to appear under "Local use" and why 15:06 kf oleonard: i think a lot are not right there 15:06 kf basically everything that shows up in a normal tab too hm. 15:07 kf printcirculationslips looks a bit dubious 15:07 kf the rest seems right.. htere used to be a lot more 15:08 drojf oleonard++ 15:08 oleonard circulation.pref has a comment: "# FIXME: printcirculationslips is also omitted. It _technically_ could work, but C4::Print is HLT specific and needs a little bit of refactoring." 15:11 kf ah 15:11 kf then that looks about right 15:11 kf hm 15:36 oleonard In what way does Bug 10610 help? 15:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , sysprefs.sql is really boring to rebase 15:37 * oleonard hasn't tested, just trying to understand the change 15:37 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Match Points versus Match Checks in Koha http://t.co/HvwHdjCBtU #KohaILS" 15:42 kf oleonard: i think because it won't put them in the end 15:42 kf so the lines are less likely to be close together 15:42 kf so less merge conflicts 15:42 kf at least i think that's the idea 15:42 kf hmm 15:42 kf shouldn't we delete entries in alerts when the borrower is deleted? 15:43 reiveune bye 15:44 gmcharlt oleonard: the idea is that if the sysprefs are sorted in order by the code, a patch that adds a new one (in its proper place, alphabetically), is less likely to create a merge confilct 15:45 gmcharlt consider two patches from two different contributors, one that adds syspref EEE and one that adds syspref MMM 15:45 kf :) 15:45 gmcharlt if they both, as is current practices, add the new one to the end of the file 15:45 gmcharlt at some point a merge conflict is likely 15:45 gmcharlt whereas if the file is sorted, and EEE and MMM are added in their respective places, a merge conflict is much less likely to occur 15:45 oleonard I see. That's why simple CSS changes conflict so often. 15:46 gmcharlt admittedly, such a merge conflict is about the easiest one possible to resolve, but I see his point about take a step to make it less likely to occur in the first place 15:47 gmcharlt (I do wish that the patch came with whatever script was used to generate the sorted version, as it would be easier to confirm that no unexpected changes crept it) 15:47 gmcharlt *crept in 15:48 kf ok, looking at alert... if someone has a mment: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=8a8b70f22ec0fbf23acf6fcd4c2e945a0b9a6972;hb=7f075448b8e00596ece780cca654471eebf949a3#l2682 15:48 kf shouldn't that have a FK constraint on the borrowernumber and a cascade that it gets deleted when the borrower is deleted? 15:48 gmcharlt kf: yes 15:49 kf hm wondering... we delete all that, but that will make it impossible to do an 'undelete' bringing borrowers back from deletedborrowers 15:49 kf we already delete a lot - that would make it more consistent, but I coudl imagine that might be the eaosn it was not done in the first place? 15:50 kf i am working on a 'concept for deletion of personal data' so that's where those questions come from :) 15:50 gmcharlt I'd rather have the FKs 15:50 kf i will file a bug 15:51 kf and note it for manual deletion for now... *meh* :) 15:51 gmcharlt and if there's a desire for a more complete patron undelete, add new tables as needed 15:51 gmcharlt e.g., deleted_borrower_alerts, etc. 15:52 kf gmcharlt: makes sense :) 15:53 kf bug 10631 15:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Table alert should have a FK on borrowernumber and entries be deleted with the referenced borrower 15:53 kf hope it makes sense 16:08 kf gmcharlt: ugh - you could have corrected all my typos at least :) 16:08 gmcharlt kf: sadly, my computer lacks the copy-and-fix-typos-and-paste feature ;) 16:08 oleonard Is it incorrect to have a 245a with a trailing colon in cases where there is a subtitle? 16:09 kf hm I thought that was the way to do it 16:09 kf and a / if there is none but you have an author? 16:11 oleonard That's what I thought, but then Bug 10505 16:11 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10505 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Add a separator between title and subtitle for OPAC without XSLT 16:11 oleonard If you apply Bug 10505 then you get double colons :: 16:11 kf oleonard: UNIMARC 16:12 kf well that and German MARC21 16:13 oleonard opac-detail.pl doesn't know whether it's UNIMARC or not 16:14 kf ah 16:15 kf hm guess i will need another bug report for suggestions 16:16 kf http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/kohastructure.sql;h=8a8b70f22ec0fbf23acf6fcd4c2e945a0b9a6972;hb=7f075448b8e00596ece780cca654471eebf949a3#l2077 16:18 khall hey oleonard: the opac has everything to implement datatables, but it doesn't look like it's ever been done. Is that correct? I just submitted a patch for bug 10632 and my datatables look a bit funky ( no sorting arrows, etc ) 16:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC 16:19 alexander hey friends 16:19 oleonard khall: Table sorting in the OPAC hasn't been globally converted to DataTables 16:20 khall is this as good a place to start as any? 16:21 alexander I ran into this problem: i did koha-remove, after that koha-create, and did all the settings from scratch, but old records still persist, but they give out "the record you requested does not exist" 16:21 oleonard khall: Yes 16:21 alexander biblioitems, biblio, items are empty 16:22 alexander anybody? 16:22 wahanui The #koha IRC channel is populated by people from many timezones, sometimes even on weekends. However, if no one is here right now and you need help you should take a look at http://koha-community.org/support/ 16:24 kf alexander: your indexes are not curent - try reindexing 16:24 kf there is a command to run a full zebra reindex for the packages 16:25 alexander i did koha-rebuild-zebra -f 16:25 alexander does this do the reindexing? 16:26 kf hm i think it does 16:27 kf maybe you have to enter a new record to make sure it resets - but that's just a guess 16:28 vfernandes hi guys 16:28 vfernandes MARCXML files for bulkmarcimport which structure should have? 16:29 vfernandes I've tried to migrate one XML file in 3.2 and it worked, the same file in 3.12 gives 0 recores 16:29 vfernandes *records 16:30 oleonard So khall are you going to do more with Bug 10632 to get the DataTables working correctly? 16:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC 16:34 alexander kf, thanks a lot 16:34 alexander adding a field and reindexing worked 16:36 vfernandes anyone could tell me the xml structure to import in 3.12 16:36 kf vfernandes: it should be valid marcxml 16:37 vfernandes I know... but in a older version the file is imported, in 3.12 not 16:38 kf it's hard to tell without knowing how your file looks like and if you are setting the correct parameters 16:38 kf did you tell the script it's XML? 16:38 kf is the XML valid? 16:39 vfernandes yes... 16:39 vfernandes <collection><record>...</record></collection> 16:40 gmcharlt vfernandes: how big is the file? can you put it up somewhere so that I can download it? 16:40 vfernandes I found the problem 16:40 vfernandes :D 16:41 vfernandes I wasn't closing one tag... but in 3.2 was working without closing :D 16:42 pianohacker gmcharlt: So you're putting off adding the feature you discussed, where non-well-formed XML causes the user's mother to call them and tell them that they're _very_ disappointed in them? 16:43 gmcharlt heh 16:43 kf got late again :) bye all! 16:46 gaetan_B bye 17:11 tweetbot [off] twitter: @KohaILS: "#KohaILS Match Points versus Match Checks in Koha http://t.co/thKOU1F68n" 17:19 tcohen @seen eythian 17:19 huginn` tcohen: eythian was last seen in #koha 1 day, 0 hours, 1 minute, and 53 seconds ago: <eythian> just in the js 17:20 tcohen @later tell eythian i've tagged and released v3.12.2, you can roll the debs whenever you want 17:20 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:40 jcamins That's what I'm talking about! 17:41 jcamins I should perhaps -- at some point -- figure out why the EUID of the package users does not seem to be the one set with AssignUser. 17:42 * cait waves 17:45 cait hi drojf 17:46 drojf hi cait 17:46 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 17:46 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 27.4°C (7:43 PM CEST on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 17:47 drojf it will get even warmer the next days. isn't it great? 17:48 jcamins I have updated the signoff script. 17:48 jcamins It now works with packages under LXC. 17:49 cait @wunder Konstanz 17:49 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.3°C (7:45 PM CEST on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 17:49 cait i melted several times today 17:49 jcamins @wunder 11375 17:49 huginn` jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 30.0°C (1:44 PM EDT on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Falling). Flash Flood Watch in effect until 8 PM EDT this evening... 17:49 jcamins And I was just thinking how nice and cool it was, too. 17:57 tcohen EUID? 17:57 tcohen what's that EUID jcamins? 17:57 jcamins tcohen: effective UID. 17:57 druthb @wunder 77098 17:57 huginn` druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 33.9°C (12:57 PM CDT on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 17:58 jcamins git bz thinks it's running as the normal Apache user not the user that's configured. 17:59 tcohen i guess is related to some sort of testing infrastructure you''ve set? 17:59 jcamins Yeah. 17:59 tcohen i'm sorry, arrived late to the conversation 17:59 jcamins No you didn't. That was the entire conversation. :P 17:59 tcohen oh, i missed the part you taliked to yourself 18:02 jcamins Hehe. 18:02 jcamins My script in contribs now _really_ works with packages under LXC. 18:03 jcamins And it's better because it doesn't require git-bz. 18:05 jcamins tcohen: how many instances do you run on a single server? 18:05 tcohen 38 18:06 tcohen why jcamins? 18:06 jcamins tcohen: oh, I was contemplating running several hundred small, low-use instances. 18:07 tcohen it is do-able of coures 18:07 tcohen course 18:07 tcohen ours are busy at some hours 18:07 tcohen but server is idle most of the day 18:08 jcamins Yeah, but it would require some special configuration to deal with the Apache processes, I think. 18:08 tcohen running on PSGI mode? 18:08 jcamins Either PSGI or plain CGI. 18:09 tcohen apache will launch as many processes as it is configured to 18:09 tcohen i haven't played with the itk mpm we use 18:09 jcamins Right, but it isn't it configured _per instance_? 18:09 tcohen we run a single apache server 18:10 tcohen i even trued with running a single zebra server for all of them (too much tweak) 18:10 jcamins But how many processes does it have running? 18:12 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.76 pasted "<IfModule mpm_worker_module> S" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/134 18:12 jcamins Hm. Actually, I just checked one of my servers with 8 instances, and it has only 10 Apache processes so I must not have understood how itk works. 18:12 tcohen it depends on the MPM you're using 18:12 tcohen usually, it has X spare processes and launches new ones as it needs (until a MAX) 18:13 tcohen (prefork mode) 18:13 tcohen the worker module is the same, with several threads per fork 18:14 tcohen and the event module is similar, but is non-blocking (like lighttpd or nginx) and thus can serve more clients per process 18:14 tcohen the problem with the event module is that is not considered stable on 2.2 (it is on 2.4) 18:17 tcohen by event module I mean mpm-itk 18:20 oleonard Funny... Two years ago we added the DataTables plugin to the OPAC. The end. 18:20 oleonard Never used. 18:22 jcamins oleonard: what did we add it for? 18:22 oleonard Good feelings? 18:22 oleonard For later? 18:22 oleonard Just in case? 18:23 oleonard The sad part is I had a nice big patch for the OPAC to add DataTables implementation in place of tablesorter.js and it has gone missing 18:24 cait oleonard: :( 18:35 tcohen bye jcamins 19:27 cait thunderstorm! 19:27 cait yay! 19:31 rambutan1 Our prospective thunderstorm fizzled out. 19:34 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 19:34 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 10.0°C (4:00 PM ART on July 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Rising). 19:39 rambutan1 @wunder hta man thi, burma 19:39 huginn` rambutan1: The current temperature in Chita, Russia is 10.0°C (5:00 AM YAKT on July 24, 2013). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 19:40 rambutan1 close, awfully close 19:41 pianohacker rambutan1: ... are you in missouri or burma or russia? 20:11 gmcharlt tcohen++ 20:12 tcohen :) 20:12 jcamins tcohen++ 20:16 drojf tcohen++ 20:19 tcohen thanks #koha 20:19 rambutan1 pianohacker: my thoughts are always in Thailand 20:20 pianohacker okay then :) 20:24 drojf maybe we should drop unimarc support if people using it don't care about testing each other's patches :P 20:24 druthb drojf! 20:24 drojf druthb! 20:24 drojf :) 20:24 druthb :P 20:24 cait druthb! 20:24 cait drojf! 20:24 drojf cait! 20:24 druthb cait! 20:25 drojf lol 20:25 gmcharlt everybody! 20:25 wahanui everybody is so enthusiastic today :) 20:25 drojf gmcharlt! 20:25 wahanui gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. 20:25 druthb gmcharlt! 20:25 wahanui gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. 20:26 cait wahanui botsnack drojf :P 20:26 wahanui :) 20:26 druthb wahanui botsnack cookie 20:26 wahanui thanks druthb :) 20:26 tcohen where should I put xsltMaxDepth to set it to a higher value? 20:26 * druthb likes drojf! don't feed him to the bot! 20:26 drojf no, don't feed me to the bot! 20:26 cait i doubt the bot would ike him - no gluten 20:27 cait no fun 20:27 cait drojf: see now we got druthb to admit she likes you - and that even tho she doesn't throw skittles at you :) 20:29 * druthb chucks skittles at drojf 20:29 druthb say again? 20:29 cait heh 20:32 cait wahanui botsnack skittles 20:32 wahanui thanks cait :) 20:33 cjh rangi++ 20:36 tcohen if you are debugging errors like "You can adjust xsltMaxDepth (--maxdepth) in order to raise the maximum number of nested template calls and variables/params (currently set to 250)" on your Koha, you can set that variable 20:36 jcamins tcohen: when would you enounter an error like that? 20:37 tcohen editing C4/XSLT.pm, and adding something like $xslt->max_depth(1000); below the "my $xslt = XML::LibXSLT->new();" call 20:37 tcohen it was just for the google record heh 20:37 tcohen a library had a record with too many trailing spaces fro 300$c 20:38 tcohen (don't ask me how, maybe some migration related problem) 20:38 jcamins Ah, and we used tail recursion to remove trailing spaces? 20:39 tcohen probably 20:42 tcohen indeed 20:44 tcohen has anyone tried eclipse-mylyn with the koha project? 20:46 jcamins tcohen: I have not, but what benefit does frequent crashing provide to the development process? :P 20:48 tcohen i use vim for most of my tasks, but I love EPIC (the perl IDE on top of eclipse) and mylyn seems to fit perfectly for integration with our bugzilla 20:48 tcohen it is aimed for QA people mostly 20:50 tcohen onthe other hand, it is java, with all its disadvantages 20:56 jcamins tcohen: also, it's Eclipse, and we all know _its_ disadvantages. :P 21:07 pianohacker cait: Random question. How do you pronounce knuffe? 21:07 jcamins pianohacker: /knuffe/ of course. :P 21:07 jcamins :) 21:08 pianohacker jcamins: D'oh, of course 21:08 pianohacker silly me 21:09 pianohacker cait: Sorry to use you as a dictionary, but wanted to make sure I got it right 21:09 cait hm? 21:09 cait who do you want to knuff? 21:14 Dyrcona pianohacker: http://www.easytrans.org/en/?q=knuffe#.Ue7x9d9jGIg 21:16 drojf i have a fun question about Letters.pm. 21:16 cait Dyrcona: the recorded pronounciation is not really good 21:16 drojf i got two ways of getting the 'from' email address for subscription alerts. 21:16 cait ah no german 21:17 drojf 1) my $branchdetails = GetBranchDetail($_->{'branchcode'}; # get branchcode via getalerts from alerts table (which joins it from borrowers table) 21:17 drojf 2) my $branchdetails = GetBranchDetail($borinfo->{'branchcode'}; # get branchcode from borrowers table 21:17 Dyrcona cait: I think the recorded pronunciation is for Norwegian. 21:17 drojf while the second seems like the more direct way to do it, i think i prefer the first one in case that the handling of branch codes in getalerts might change in the future (like, not the home branch of the user being subscribed but maybe the homebranch of the serial). does that make sense or is it just complicating things? 21:17 cait that would make sense :) 21:18 cait drojf: i think it's too late for me to follow you 21:20 cait sorry 21:22 drojf i'll take option 1 21:23 drojf it may not even work, i haven't tried any of those yet. so i might just use any that works ;) 21:34 drojf why is that the branchcode of the patron and not that of the serial anyway in getalerts? 21:34 * drojf has no idea how serials work 21:39 pianohacker drojf: nobody does 21:39 pianohacker some people are just better at pretending 21:39 drojf lol 21:43 cait drojf: i think i'd find the branchcode of the subscription a little more logical 21:43 cait because that's where hte issue is the patron is informed about 21:43 drojf it does not say anything about the whereabouts of the issue in the email 21:43 drojf BUT i repaired the email 21:43 drojf ;) 21:43 cait well you CAN edit the notice template i guess 21:44 cait but then again... the question might be where it pull the information from 21:44 cait if you can use branches... which branch will be used 21:44 drojf it doesn't 21:45 drojf hm ok i think my subscription is actually in my home branch. but i bet that there won't be any info if they differ 21:45 drojf let's see 21:47 drojf i can't even find it. that might be the trick ;) 21:57 cait drojf: hm you can actually create subscriptions without a branch i guess 21:57 cait so there is a problem with that 21:58 cait you shouldn't but i think you can 21:58 cait maybe would have to be - subscription branch - patron home library branch fallback? too late really to figure out 21:58 cait go to bed 21:58 cait night all :) 22:04 tcohen jcamins, eclipse importing the koha source from git is so sloooooooooooooow 22:05 jcamins tcohen: don't worry. 22:05 jcamins It'll crash momentarily. 22:05 jcamins That's always fast. 22:05 * tcohen thinks that having 8GB RAM on his laptop can make this a nightmare 22:06 jcamins tcohen: why? It'll never fill up all the RAM. It'll crash long before it loads that much from the hard drive. 22:06 * tcohen feels relief, thanks jcamins 22:07 jcamins :) 22:16 drojf i like how 'Please pick it up at your convenience.' became 'pick it up as fast as possible' in the german translation. 22:17 jcamins drojf: that sounds right. :P 22:17 drojf ;) 22:24 gmcharlt heh 22:25 * gmcharlt just had a lightbulb moment -- hold shelves where the library starts charging rent after the third day 22:25 wizzyrea O.o 22:25 wizzyrea @quote get 123 22:25 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 22:25 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 22:26 gmcharlt wizzyrea: touch project (re the XKCD link) -- here we need worry only about murdering kittens! 22:26 gmcharlt *tough 22:56 dcook morning #koha 23:02 cjh hmmm I wrote the 3.8.15 release email, hope that sent... 23:02 jcamins cjh: I think I saw it. 23:02 cjh that is promising :) 23:03 jcamins No, I saw the tag. 23:03 jcamins Sorry. 23:03 cjh heh 23:03 cjh I will give it an hour and I can always write it again 23:10 cjh drats, it isn't in my sent email, somehow managed to cancel that... 23:21 tcohen cjh, large messages get moderated 23:22 tcohen i received an email alerting me that 23:22 cjh ahh ty, but my message isn't in my sent box which isn't a good sign. 23:22 tcohen heh, oops 23:22 cjh yeah... 23:23 cjh going to wait a bit and hope, but I can always rewrite it tonight :) 23:29 gmcharlt hmm, git.k-c.org is responding to ping but is otherwise not responsive 23:30 jcamins gmcharlt: bag is probably still around. 23:34 gmcharlt jcamins: pokage has occurred 23:35 jcamins gmcharlt: by the way, you probably noticed, but I never got very far on moving old feature branches to the archive git repo. 23:36 jcamins Please feel free to move any branches you would like. 23:40 tcohen hmm, basil got frozen last night 23:40 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9755: (follow-up) tweak test for tag visibility in merge hash <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=faa43031e66d1544aa2c93befa3f849ba93806d7> / Bug 9755 QA follow-up: fix template compliance <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4712fc66f0601fe82e27f4a06dd75f0bd345c1ef> / Bug 9755 QA follow-up: move MARC-specific functionality to utility class <http://git.koha-commu 23:40 jcamins tcohen: I hate that. 23:41 tcohen yeah, de-hidrated basil will never match the flavour 23:44 dcook tcohen: :( 23:44 dcook Our basil died recently :/ 23:44 dcook Potatos are growing strong though :D 23:48 tcohen :D 23:48 jcamins Did anyone other than rangi contribute any code to Koha 1.0? 23:49 dcook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1a2VN_pec 23:49 dcook Maybe? 23:49 wahanui i heard Maybe was a momentaneous error 23:51 rangi yes 23:51 jcamins rangi: okay, thanks. 23:52 rangi 198 commits from olwen williams 23:58 dcook Hmm, looks like the Koha history hasn't been updated in a while: http://koha-community.org/about/history/ 23:59 jcamins So it does.