Time  Nick         Message
23:57 dcook        ;)
23:56 tcohen       maybe a sub-conscious thing :-P
23:56 tcohen       i didn't do it on purpose
23:55 dcook        Junkins is a rather great terrible nickname though :p
23:55 wahanui      i don't know, cjh
23:55 cjh          wahanui: do you have feelings?
23:55 wizzyrea     bots have feelings too.
23:55 wizzyrea     aw be sweet to jenkins.
23:48 tcohen       dates can be moved too
23:48 cjh          hi tcohen
23:48 cjh          ahh drats, will have to try get it done before that so we have time to translate.
23:47 tcohen       hi cjh
23:46 cjh          I am not sure I will have much time to Rmaint until the weekend, cutting it close...
23:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #68 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:41 tcohen       junkins is a bit lazy today
23:39 dcook        hey tcohen :)
23:39 tcohen       hi dcook
23:39 dcook        morning #koha
23:37 tcohen       c'mon jenkins
22:15 pianohacker  bye #koha
22:05 wizzyrea     :)
22:05 jcamins      wizzyrea: sounds about right.
22:02 wizzyrea     they're not "MARC subfields," they're "MARC subfiends."
22:01 * wizzyrea   just had a humorous freudian slip
22:01 wizzyrea     gl
21:22 cait         have to ponder this more  - thx for the pointers :)
21:22 cait         wizzyrea++ wizzyrea++
21:20 cait         not sure
21:17 wizzyrea     it changed in... 3.10?
21:17 wizzyrea     i haven't looked super closely at the new hold queue code.
21:16 cait         wizzyrea: ok
21:15 wizzyrea     I think it might do some of that by default
21:15 wizzyrea     and then it would game the system into preferring the home branch
21:15 wizzyrea     like, you could make it super cheap to get a book from your own library, but really expensive to get one from another
21:15 wizzyrea     but I don't have a ton of experience with that
21:14 wizzyrea     too
21:14 wizzyrea     the hold queue has changed a lot, you can use the transport cost matrix
21:14 wizzyrea     you can use the hold queue weight
21:12 cait         was available there...
21:12 cait         would the hold queue be able to prefer the own library if the item is available there?
21:10 wizzyrea     the hold queue does some dancing, and assigns the reserve to a library
21:09 wizzyrea     borrower A wants an item from library 2, places a reserve, there are 48 potential libraries that can fill that.
21:09 wizzyrea     no independent branches
21:09 cait         at leat there is a parameter for that especially for use with indybranches
21:09 wizzyrea     they allow on shelf holds
21:09 wizzyrea     ok so NEKLS does exactly what you are talking about
21:08 cait         we stlil can allow reserves
21:08 wizzyrea     libraries can't see each other.
21:08 cait         what changes with indybranches?
21:08 cait         will it turn up on the holdqueue for his library first if there is an available item?
21:08 wizzyrea     but that assumes no independent branches
21:07 wizzyrea     hold queue, sorry
21:07 wizzyrea     well it will turn up on library2's pick list
21:07 cait         or the item from the other branch will be sent in... which is not really right
21:07 cait         or we turn it ON... but then he can place a hold on it and noone is ever going to get the item for him.
21:06 wizzyrea     so if library 2 has an item that is on the shelf, borrower A still can't place a reserve on it.
21:06 cait         or probably more hoping
21:06 cait         yeah... i thought maybe i could get some magic happen for things not at the same branch
21:06 wizzyrea     allow on shelf holds means "yes, allow available items to be placed on reserve" or "no, do not allow available items to be placed on reserve"
21:05 cait         i was afraid of that
21:05 cait         *sigh*
21:05 wizzyrea     not unless it is checked out
21:05 cait         no = not possible?
21:05 wizzyrea     no.
21:05 cait         so let's say all copies are checked out, but there is one at the other branch, he should be able to order that copy
21:05 wizzyrea     so library 1 wants allowonshelfholds OFF
21:04 cait         borrower A from library 1 cannot place reserves on items at library 1 unless they are checked out < YES
21:04 cait         let me reread that
21:04 cait         :)
21:04 cait         now i am confused
21:04 wizzyrea     are you asking me if borrower b can place reserves on an on-shelf item from library 1?
21:03 wizzyrea     is that the question?
21:03 wizzyrea     borrower B from library 2 wants to place an item on (an on shelf or unavailable item?) from library 1, can they do it?
21:03 wizzyrea     borrower A from library 1 cannot place reserves on items at library 1 unless they are checked out
21:02 wizzyrea     ok, so if we were to write a story about this
21:01 * cait       offers cookies
21:01 cait         and the other is allowonshelfholds I think... it's global, but if i turn it off... can i still reserve items from other branches? I will have to do lots of tsting... but there are so many holds parameters it#s rather confusing
20:59 cait         the question is, if you can configure koha so that they can only place holds on items, that are not available (= checked out, for reference) at the patron library's branch
20:59 wizzyrea     sure
20:58 cait         in that case 2 actually
20:58 cait         can i ask you some questions about holds between multiple branches? :)
20:57 cait         oh hi :)
20:57 * wizzyrea   waves at cait
20:56 wizzyrea     sup
20:56 wizzyrea     i am now
20:44 cait         i have some questions about holds and was looking for an expert :)
20:43 pianohacker  cait: what's up?
20:39 cait         hmm
20:32 cait         wizzyrea: around? (second try :) )
20:15 cait         good question from daskey hm.
20:09 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @daskey: "hey #KohaILS users: what's the largest academic library using Koha that comes to mind?"
20:09 pianohacker  gmcharlt: as the maintainer of MARC::Record, do you have a preferred JS equivalent?
20:03 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "Really glad to be a member of a community that doesn't do any of that. #rpt #KohaILS"
19:51 oleonard     Yes
19:51 cait         oleonard: still around?
19:45 cait         wizzyrea: around?
19:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10484 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
19:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10494 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , KohaBranchName sends useless warnings to log if supplied library code is null or not present
19:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8884 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , opacheader is not in the header on CCSR
19:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10386 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , UT: VirtualShelves.t needs some more adjustments
19:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10336 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , UT: HoldsQueue.t needs to create its own data
19:26 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10484: serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
19:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: remove spurious warnings from the KohaBranchName plugin
19:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: test cases for the KohaBranchName plugin
19:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8884: (follow-up) rearrange placement of the top-bar div in CCSR
19:26 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8884: opacheader is not in the header on CCSR
19:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10495 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , t/db_dependent/HoldsQueue.t can fail unnecessarily
19:26 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10386: improvements to VirtualShelves.t
19:26 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10336: HoldsQueue.t needs to create its own data
19:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 10495: set precondition for HoldsQueue test
19:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #67: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/67/
19:23 * cait       is going through an old list of bugs she wrote down for some reason
19:22 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7438 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , After attaching an item, clicking Cataloging breadcrumb results in 404 Error
19:22 cait         bug 7438
19:22 cait         hm wonder if 7438 is still an issue
19:19 cait         lol thx
19:19 oleonard     cait++ # He said *two* points
19:10 druthb       cait++
19:09 cait         np
19:09 rambutan     tnx
19:09 rambutan     ah! 2 points to cait
19:08 cait         but i am not sure
19:08 cait         i woud check koha-dev/etc then
19:08 rambutan     we have a git install
19:07 cait         hm mayb if you have a dev installation but not sure
19:06 rambutan     there's another place, isn't there?
19:06 rambutan     not: /home/koha/kohaclone/etc/SIPconfig.xml
19:04 rambutan     where are the SIP configs on the Koha server?
18:48 mtompset     Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. :)
18:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #67 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10575 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction
18:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10189 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , French values in cataloging plugins for unimarc 128b and 128c fields
18:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10258 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove erroneous call to haspermission in basket.pl
18:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9770 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::ClassSortRoutine::Dewey can pad the wrong part of a call number internally
18:45 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10575 : GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction
18:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10447 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Language definitions for 'ru' and 'uk' are not available during install
18:45 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10189: Translate values in UNIMARC 128b/c cataloguing plugins to English
18:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10258: offer to create basket group only when staff user has correct permission
18:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10504 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Acquisition::ModOrderItem is unused
18:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10258: fix permissions check for setting basket group for order basket
18:45 jenkins_koha * Jason Etheridge: Bug 9770: fix sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes
18:45 jenkins_koha * Jason Etheridge: Bug 9770: test case for sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes
18:45 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10447: add 'ru' and 'uk' to Zebra indexing language list
18:45 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10504: Remove the unused C4::Acq::ModOrderItem routine
18:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1312: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1312/
18:37 * drojf      disappears to do non-koha things
18:33 drojf        as long as you do not build custom packages that do weird stuff to the database i don't see any problems
18:32 drojf        on the machines we are using now, we started with standard packages and upgraded to our own. and at some point we will upgrade to a newer standard package again
18:31 * mtompset   cringes, "I feel your pain, drojf."
18:31 drojf        basically it's the fun of koha with git combined with the convenience of the packages. plus an hour of packaging time on my slow VM
18:30 mtompset     Have you upgraded from a self-rolled system to a newer packaged system?
18:29 drojf        it's not productive yet but i will, yes. for a little while until what we need is in standard koha
18:29 mtompset     But do you roll your own for a production system?
18:28 drojf        it's fun, you should try it
18:28 mtompset     I'm looking at possibly doing that in the future.
18:28 drojf        i already did. i always roll my own ^^
18:27 mtompset     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
18:27 mtompset     If not, perhaps you could roll your own?
18:24 cait         hm good question
18:24 drojf        probably too late for eythian *ping*
18:24 drojf        are there going to be new packages with the fix for 10590?
18:17 cait         oleonard: thx for listening ;)
18:16 mtompset     go back further and make it display things before they are entered, oleonard. ;)
18:15 * oleonard   updates the Cart so that it can travel back in time and display deleted records
18:13 cait         i reindexed yesterday, not sure what's wrong there, i will mark the bug invalid
18:13 cait         oleonard: i found it.... *sigh* out of date index
18:12 cait         ok, it seems to be something about that record...
18:11 tcohen       bye #koha, c u later
18:11 * cait       is still puzzled
18:11 cait         hm that's not it, it especially dislikes the first record in my result list
18:10 cait         can you try to add a record without any items?
18:10 cait         oleonard: i might have a lead
18:08 cait         hm maybe firebug will tell something?
18:08 khall        hi cait!
18:08 cait         oleonard: it#s still happening fo rme :(
18:07 cait         making sure i am on recent master, then retesting
18:06 oleonard     yes
18:06 mtompset     Greetings, oleonard. :)
18:06 cait         oh right - oleonard - hte cart bug. do you have a minute?
18:06 cait         oh and hi mtompset
18:06 cait         oleonard: i think i had a question for you... an dnow of course I don#t remember
18:06 cait         hi oleonard and khall :)
18:06 * oleonard   polishes his pointy felt hat
18:05 oleonard     Any time.
18:05 khall        thanks for your wizardry on this patch oleonard!
18:04 khall        bam. I'll sign that patch now!
18:03 khall        oleonard: good thinking, I'll clear my cache and retest
18:02 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Convert records table in manage-marc-import.pl to ajax DataTable
18:02 oleonard     khall: Are you sure Chrome pulled a fresh copy of the CSS when you tested Bug 10558 again?
18:01 mtompset     Greetings, cait.
17:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #1312 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:29 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7110 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Renewal messages still displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled.
17:29 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
17:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7110: Renewal messages no longer displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled
17:29 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option
17:28 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
17:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #66: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/66/
17:01 drojf        yay for fixing the security thing in a few hours!
16:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #66 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
16:45 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option
16:45 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
16:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1311: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1311/
16:26 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @saschel: "Secretly in love with beta interface of Beacon by World Maritime University Library https://t.co/k63h5Z74cf - runs on #KohaILS #blacklight"
16:23 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @gmcharlt: "Happy day. I just pushed a patch from a new contributor to Koha!  #KohaILS"
16:23 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10575 : GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45fafb31ce03244011513a3a758e28f8db9615a4> / Bug 10189: Translate values in UNIMARC 128b/c cataloguing plugins to English <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80ea8bf821ba83fd4506f5298f5a582051b44e06> / Bug 10258: offer to create basket group only when staff user has
16:16 mtompset     I was amazed at the awesome speed of coordination to push in security patches in Koha. That's great!
16:15 mtompset     Greetings, gmcharlt AmitG.
16:15 mtompset     Greetings, druthb.
16:15 * druthb     waves to mtompset.
16:13 gmcharlt     phasefx_++
16:13 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9770: fix sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dba36a7a1216238a260ea5fbe2218627487e9f19> / Bug 9770: test case for sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bce45b4bf55e82345efed2850d9cb5fd77f3c483> / Bug 10447: add 'ru' and 'uk' to Zebra indexing language list <http
16:13 gmcharlt     howdy
16:13 wahanui      gmcharlt is probably an expert in all things library technology.
16:13 AmitG        heya gmcharlt
16:06 mtompset     Greetings, #koha
15:59 pianohacker  gmcharlt: done, thanks for pointing that out
15:55 pianohacker  Follow-up time
15:55 pianohacker  what? hrm. Could have sworn
15:55 gaetan_B     bye !
15:54 * gmcharlt   notes that the patches attached to bug 10486 don't currently actually do that
15:53 gmcharlt     the main value of the patch for 9812 was not exposing the template source willy-nilly
15:53 pianohacker  gmcharlt: exactly what I did
15:52 gmcharlt     pianohacker: for that, my inclination would be to just take out the filtering of the xslt directory
15:52 huginn`      khall: The operation succeeded.
15:52 khall        @later tell oleonard jonathan notices an oddity with the qotd datatable after applying the patch for bug 10558. Any ideas? Everything looked good to me, but I'm no css wizard.
15:50 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Convert records table in manage-marc-import.pl to ajax DataTable
15:50 khall        oleonard: jonathan notices an oddity with the qotd datatable after applying the patch for bug 10558. Any ideas? Everything looked good to me, but I'm no css wizard.
15:49 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
15:49 pianohacker  gmcharlt: In that realm, I had to open up fetching of XSLT in the apache config for bug 10486. Can you see that being a huge issue?
15:48 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10592 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Apache configuration is blocking fetch of certain icons and XML files
15:48 gmcharlt     kf: bug 10592
15:48 huginn`      rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 52 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <jcamins> mtompset: not using indy branches if you want to share books?
15:48 rambutan     @seen jcamins
15:48 rambutan     oops
15:48 huginn`      rambutan: I have not seen jcam.
15:48 rambutan     @seen jcam
15:41 AmitG        heya all
15:40 eythian      new master packages published.
15:28 tcohen       gmcharlt: yes, was looking at it after reading your email
15:28 tcohen       kf: i want to pick what is needed from master
15:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #1311 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:24 huginn`      gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
15:24 gmcharlt     @later tell bgkriegel please note bug 10590
15:24 pianohacker  eythian: He really did it? awesome
15:23 pianohacker  didn't know that it was a common perl practice though
15:23 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=89cf013a6fadcb1347151798f3fdab0d8c75cd15> / Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57866d6b67c3f8b29290150f21c71395315a73fe>
15:23 pianohacker  gmcharlt: interesting. Can't imagine having cuddled-else off, but I really like vt=1 as opposed to 0 or 2
15:22 huginn`      gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
15:22 gmcharlt     @later tell cjh please note bug 10590
15:22 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
15:22 gmcharlt     tcohen: in case you haven't already seen it, please note bug 10590
15:20 eythian      https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Makefile <-- Linux for Workgroups
15:19 gmcharlt     pianohacker: presumably -- I must admit, I *hate* some of the default perltidy settings; I prefer the ones in xt/perltidyrc
15:19 kf           tcohen: will you pick more from master or do you want to hear about those patches as well?
15:19 pianohacker  gmcharlt: That was a thing at some point, correct? Was that the change that happened with http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL1:_Perltidy ?
15:18 kf           pianohacker: ?
15:17 kf           i think not enough room for much script in a favicon... so I woudl be ok with a global one :)
15:17 pianohacker  woah, I just realized that the spaces-inside-parentheses rule no longer seems to be codified
15:17 kf           overall looks good to me, but would test it a bit more
15:17 gmcharlt     general question -- do folks need favicon to be language-specific, or can it just live in koha-tmpl/{opac,intranet}-tmpl/$theme/images ?
15:15 kf           so I think we settled on using " so people can use ' in their translations
15:15 pianohacker  Hm. The translator script seemed to handle both, but I can see pootle being unhappy
15:15 kf           _( 'No results found in the library\'s OverDrive collection.' ) < pootle is often not happy with escaped stuff
15:15 kf           it should complain, although the space might confuse it
15:14 kf           have you run the tests on your changes?
15:14 kf           we use "
15:14 kf           oh right
15:14 kf           butit should not make a difference i gues
15:14 kf           we normally don't do the space there I think; _( '
15:13 pianohacker  ah okay. thanks
15:13 kf           if the string shows up and if it references your file in the comments
15:13 kf           and then check the po files
15:13 kf           pianohacker: that looks better but if you are not sure, you can run perl translate update de-DE from misc/translator
15:12 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search
15:12 pianohacker  kf: In case you've had a chance to look, did the followup for bug 10320 satisfy your concerns? I'm still not entirely familiar with the translation system, so some parts were a bit hazy
15:10 pianohacker  That's about what I feel like every morning
15:10 kf           pianohacker: here
15:10 druthb       hm.  Have you seen those zombies in AMC's _The Walking Dead_?  That's what I felt like, this morning.  Up, shambling around, making grunting noises, and looking for something to eat, rather mindlessly..
15:09 pianohacker  ah well. I'll have to settle for a discontented hello, and how are you
15:09 druthb       :P
15:08 pianohacker  that's it!
15:08 * druthb     has a double whammy on you, pianohacker.  That vaguely-southern upbringing doesn't let you pick on women or old folks, and she is both.
15:07 pianohacker  I want to harass you for sticking your tongue out at me but my vaguely southern upbringing won't let me do so without guilt...
15:07 reiveune     bye
15:06 * druthb     goes :P at pianohacker.
15:06 pianohacker  kf: around?
15:06 pianohacker  good morning #koha
14:57 gmcharlt     kf: great
14:57 kf           gmcharlt: 10590 passed qa
14:57 kf           done
14:54 kf           it seems to work alright
14:53 eythian      yeah
14:51 kf           so as we can't reproduce, it's mostly regression testing?
14:50 eythian      hello
14:50 tcohen       hi kf eythian gmcharlt
14:49 kf           in the end even typing in a terminal was laggy
14:49 kf           and it got worse and worse
14:49 kf           it was :(
14:49 eythian      well, your vbox is for some reason terribly slow.
14:49 kf           eythian: you wouldn't believe how incredibly faster the new server is compared to the virtualbox installation :D
14:48 kf           fixed
14:48 kf           typoed in the git config variables
14:47 eythian      I don't really know.
14:47 eythian      although, I'd expect it to have failed before then
14:47 eythian      that looks like a configuration error, maybe you should re-do the git-bz config
14:46 kf           paste.koha-community.org/119
14:45 kf           i can#t paste from the server to here
14:45 kf           mom
14:45 eythian      kf: describe the symptoms
14:45 kf           yes
14:45 gmcharlt     kf: are you using the fishsoup branch?
14:44 kf           still no idea why git bz is not working
14:44 kf           ah found it
14:43 kf           which bug was that?
14:40 kf           grr
14:40 gmcharlt     *effect
14:40 gmcharlt     grr
14:40 gmcharlt     kf: the other affect I'm seeing is that the favicon is getting blocked
14:40 kf           and use wget to get the patches
14:40 kf           currently i am struggling with git bz... probably going to give up anytime soon
14:39 kf           gmcharlt: does it have other side effects apart of 008?
14:33 gmcharlt     then reload Apache
14:33 gmcharlt     kf: for the moment, to get your DB to Just Work, try commenting out the two <DirectoryMatch> stanzas in the active koha-httpd.conf  -- specifically, the ones below the 'secure iternal stuff' comments
14:30 gmcharlt     looks like a side-effect of commit 83cf63f7a
14:29 * gmcharlt   digs
14:29 gmcharlt     ah, running afoul of an Apache config issue
14:28 gmcharlt     kf: hmm, I think I see what you mean
14:27 gmcharlt     kf: checking
14:23 kf           hm can someone test if the 008 value builder works for them in current master?
14:08 huginn`      druthb: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010)
14:08 druthb       @quote random
13:56 kf           heh
13:55 huginn`      gmcharlt: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011)
13:55 gmcharlt     @quote random
13:41 kf           ?
13:23 eythian      gar
13:23 eythian      :qa
13:22 oleonard     I wonder why the mailing list person is looking at the Fedora INSTALL file for installing on OSX
12:58 eythian      http://musiclove.rs/
12:03 oleonard     Hi #koha
10:15 kf           and i am still annoyed at the dokuwiki discussion plugin
10:15 kf           yah - have mercy, it's monday
10:15 eythian      https://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/ <-- /me clicks the link for you :)
10:12 kf           what does git-annex do?
10:11 eythian      https://campaign.joeyh.name/ <-- possibly relevant to your interests.
10:10 kf           oleonard++
09:22 eythian      ah right, that's a reasonable excuse then :)
09:22 kf           not sure, currently we are pretty busy with sending a library live :)
09:22 eythian      How's signing off that bug going? ;)
09:22 eythian      kf: hello.
09:21 kf           dokuwiki--
09:21 kf           morning eythian
09:15 eythian      hi
08:45 kf           tht without @ :)
08:45 christophe_c :-D
08:44 huginn`      christophe_c: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
08:44 christophe_c @kf ++
08:44 christophe_c :)
08:44 christophe_c \o/
08:44 huginn`      christophe_c: The operation succeeded.
08:44 christophe_c @later tell dcook hello
08:44 christophe_c oh thx kf ;-)
08:03 kf           at the beginning instead of !
08:03 kf           with @ :)
08:03 christophe_c not the good bot :)
08:02 christophe_c :-/
08:02 christophe_c !later tell dcook hello
08:02 christophe_c hi kf ;-)
07:56 kf           hi christophe_c
07:28 dcook        au revoir
07:28 dcook        Time for me to head off for the night
07:28 dcook        hey ya christophe_c
07:26 christophe_c hello #koha
07:10 gaetan_B     hello
06:54 rangi        hi reiveune
06:51 wahanui      what's up, reiveune
06:51 reiveune     hello
06:46 cait         bbl
06:43 dcook        np
06:43 rangi        cool thanks
06:43 rangi        ah yep permissions
06:43 dcook        You are not authorized to view run 1
06:42 dcook        Can't see the second one
06:42 rangi        i may have borked the permissions
06:41 rangi        http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/tr_show_run.cgi?run_id=1
06:41 rangi        or this
06:41 dcook        The interface is there but no test cases
06:41 dcook        What are we looking for?
06:41 dcook        Depends
06:41 rangi        can anyone see this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/tr_list_runs.cgi?product_id=2&limit=25&current_tab=run
05:37 dcook        tag_grep could be handy in MARC::Record...
05:14 cait         hi dcook :)
05:14 dcook        morning cait :)
05:14 cait         good morning #koha
04:51 dcook        Specifically meant for a special library context but could be useful to others..
04:49 dcook        Then a cronjob checks each night for new bibs in those areas of interests and sends a digest email with the info
04:49 bag          sounds cool
04:49 dcook        I'm writing a feature where patrons specify their subject areas of interest
04:49 dcook        Beautiful :)
04:49 dcook        Ah yes, as I read the documentation more closely...I see the sense
04:48 dcook        bag++
04:48 dcook        gmcharlt++
04:48 dcook        And you too, bag!
04:48 dcook        Well, in any case, thank you very much, gmcharlt :)
04:48 dcook        hehe
04:48 gmcharlt     and I don't think I want Perl to be quite that clever! ;)
04:48 gmcharlt     dcook: in a word, no
04:48 dcook        As in, won't create a list within the scalar that can be dereferenced with a @?
04:47 dcook        It won't do it automatically?
04:47 bag          there you go I know you need a @  :P
04:47 huginn`      gmcharlt: I suck
04:47 gmcharlt     huginn`: hush
04:47 gmcharlt     rather than $field = $rec->field('6..')
04:47 * wizzyrea   forgets he's on west coast time now
04:47 huginn`      gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
04:47 gmcharlt     @fields = $rec->field('6..')
04:47 dcook        gmcharlt: How do I specify that?
04:47 wizzyrea     omg. he is
04:47 bag          heya gmcharlt and wizzyrea
04:47 gmcharlt     *not scalar context
04:47 wizzyrea     more.
04:47 gmcharlt     dcook: you need list context, scalar context
04:46 wizzyrea     be another 4-5 hours for him :/
04:46 bag          probably not around
04:46 bag          9:45pm on a sunday night
04:46 bag          he would
04:46 dcook        If gmcharlt is around, I'm sure he'd know :p
04:46 dcook        http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.5/lib/MARC/Record.pm
04:46 dcook        Hmm, good point
04:46 bag          I've never used the wildcard in MARC::Record
04:45 bag          hmm..  should you be using an array maybe?
04:45 dcook        But it seems to only be returning the first 6XX field...
04:45 dcook        Based on the documentation, it sounds like "$record->field('6..')" should be giving me a list of 600 fields for the record
04:44 dcook        Hmm, has anyone used the wildcarding with MARC::Record ?
03:44 * Oak        waves
02:22 mtompset     That's for actually coming here. :)
02:22 mtompset     manny++
02:22 huginn`      mtompset: manny has neutral karma.
02:22 mtompset     @karma manny
02:22 manny        mtompset++
02:19 wahanui      irc is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
02:19 mtompset     irc?
02:18 mtompset     YAY! Now you have Chatzilla set up, manny. :)
01:58 mtompset     [Prevent/Don't Prevent] staff (but not superlibrarians) from modifying objects (holds, items, patrons, etc.) belonging to other libraries.  -- except for transfers?
01:56 mtompset     But we don't want librarians from other branches to go modifying other branches books willy-nilly.
01:55 jcamins      mtompset: not using indy branches if you want to share books?
01:55 mtompset     Or should perhaps the first branch check out the book for the borrower?
01:54 mtompset     So what is the best way for the second branch to track the borrower?
01:53 huginn`      wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
01:53 wahanui      http://xkcd.com/1172/
01:53 wizzyrea     @quote get 123
01:53 wizzyrea     or
01:53 wizzyrea     or
01:53 wizzyrea     or
01:53 wizzyrea     or they make a paper form.
01:53 wizzyrea     that's certainly one way to do it
01:53 mtompset     Then the other branch checks it in and checks it out for the borrower?
01:52 mtompset     Then sends it.
01:52 mtompset     The one branch, checks out to an account associated with the other branch.
01:52 mtompset     I understand correctly...
01:52 mtompset     So, if
01:52 wizzyrea     transiting is handled outside of koha
01:51 wizzyrea     then they check it out to their borrower
01:51 wizzyrea     you issue the book to the library
01:51 mtompset     Then how do you do an inter-library loan?
01:51 wizzyrea     which is, admittedly, a bit silly.
01:51 wizzyrea     and no, they don't normally open the doors to let other libraries borrow them.
01:51 wizzyrea     because independent branches are really just neighborly kohas who live on the same block, but everyone's books are in their own locked houses.
01:50 mtompset     Why can't IndependentBranches transfer books?
01:43 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
01:41 jcamins      Or within the range of "normal enough."
01:41 wizzyrea     kewl.
01:41 jcamins      That seems normal.
01:40 wizzyrea     wizzyrea (TM) - Now with extra uncertainty.
01:40 wizzyrea     if that's normal then I'll be happy :)
01:40 wizzyrea     mmm ~15 secondsish
01:40 jcamins      Depends how long the spike is.
01:39 wizzyrea     does it seem odd that a server would be spiking it's processor on a routine zebra reindex?
01:39 wizzyrea     curvy roads + a ferry
01:38 wizzyrea     oh you wouldn't drive probably.
01:38 jcamins      12 hour drive according to Google Maps.
01:37 wizzyrea     not by US standards anyway.
01:37 wizzyrea     nothing is *so* far in NZ.
01:36 jcamins      wizzyrea: rangi: other NZers: you're going to miss an interesting-looking symposium on collecting at the University of Otago during KohaCon... however,  now that I look at a map I see that Wellington and Dunedin are not close at all, so perhaps you would have missed it anyway.
01:14 huginn`      dcook: The operation succeeded.
01:14 dcook        @later tell mtj Could you provide a rebased follow-up patch for bug 10096?
01:13 dcook        mtj: Are you around?
01:05 huginn`      jcamins: The operation succeeded.
01:05 jcamins      @later tell tcohen Yes, I think AuthoritiesLog should probably default to yes.
00:10 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @metal_librarian: "@jordanheit Who is responsible at SFU for GODOT/CUFTS? @amberhlibrarian Excited to hear about your Koha integration with them! #KohaILS"
00:04 tcohen       shouldn't AuthoritiesLog default to yes (as CataloguingLog)?
00:04 tcohen       morning dcook