Time Nick Message
00:04 tcohen morning dcook
00:04 tcohen shouldn't AuthoritiesLog default to yes (as CataloguingLog)?
00:10 tweetbot [off] twitter: @metal_librarian: "@jordanheit Who is responsible at SFU for GODOT/CUFTS? @amberhlibrarian Excited to hear about your Koha integration with them! #KohaILS"
01:05 jcamins @later tell tcohen Yes, I think AuthoritiesLog should probably default to yes.
01:05 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
01:13 dcook mtj: Are you around?
01:14 dcook @later tell mtj Could you provide a rebased follow-up patch for bug 10096?
01:14 huginn` dcook: The operation succeeded.
01:36 jcamins wizzyrea: rangi: other NZers: you're going to miss an interesting-looking symposium on collecting at the University of Otago during KohaCon... however, now that I look at a map I see that Wellington and Dunedin are not close at all, so perhaps you would have missed it anyway.
01:37 wizzyrea nothing is *so* far in NZ.
01:37 wizzyrea not by US standards anyway.
01:38 jcamins 12 hour drive according to Google Maps.
01:38 wizzyrea oh you wouldn't drive probably.
01:39 wizzyrea curvy roads + a ferry
01:39 wizzyrea does it seem odd that a server would be spiking it's processor on a routine zebra reindex?
01:40 jcamins Depends how long the spike is.
01:40 wizzyrea mmm ~15 secondsish
01:40 wizzyrea if that's normal then I'll be happy :)
01:40 wizzyrea wizzyrea (TM) - Now with extra uncertainty.
01:41 jcamins That seems normal.
01:41 wizzyrea kewl.
01:41 jcamins Or within the range of "normal enough."
01:43 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
01:50 mtompset Why can't IndependentBranches transfer books?
01:51 wizzyrea because independent branches are really just neighborly kohas who live on the same block, but everyone's books are in their own locked houses.
01:51 wizzyrea and no, they don't normally open the doors to let other libraries borrow them.
01:51 wizzyrea which is, admittedly, a bit silly.
01:51 mtompset Then how do you do an inter-library loan?
01:51 wizzyrea you issue the book to the library
01:51 wizzyrea then they check it out to their borrower
01:52 wizzyrea transiting is handled outside of koha
01:52 mtompset So, if
01:52 mtompset I understand correctly...
01:52 mtompset The one branch, checks out to an account associated with the other branch.
01:52 mtompset Then sends it.
01:53 mtompset Then the other branch checks it in and checks it out for the borrower?
01:53 wizzyrea that's certainly one way to do it
01:53 wizzyrea or they make a paper form.
01:53 wizzyrea or
01:53 wizzyrea or
01:53 wizzyrea or
01:53 wizzyrea @quote get 123
01:53 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/
01:53 huginn` wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
01:54 mtompset So what is the best way for the second branch to track the borrower?
01:55 mtompset Or should perhaps the first branch check out the book for the borrower?
01:55 jcamins mtompset: not using indy branches if you want to share books?
01:56 mtompset But we don't want librarians from other branches to go modifying other branches books willy-nilly.
01:58 mtompset [Prevent/Don't Prevent] staff (but not superlibrarians) from modifying objects (holds, items, patrons, etc.) belonging to other libraries. -- except for transfers?
02:18 mtompset YAY! Now you have Chatzilla set up, manny. :)
02:19 mtompset irc?
02:19 wahanui irc is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
02:22 manny mtompset++
02:22 mtompset @karma manny
02:22 huginn` mtompset: manny has neutral karma.
02:22 mtompset manny++
02:22 mtompset That's for actually coming here. :)
03:44 * Oak waves
04:44 dcook Hmm, has anyone used the wildcarding with MARC::Record ?
04:45 dcook Based on the documentation, it sounds like "$record->field('6..')" should be giving me a list of 600 fields for the record
04:45 dcook But it seems to only be returning the first 6XX field...
04:45 bag hmm.. should you be using an array maybe?
04:46 bag I've never used the wildcard in MARC::Record
04:46 dcook Hmm, good point
04:46 dcook http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.5/lib/MARC/Record.pm
04:46 dcook If gmcharlt is around, I'm sure he'd know :p
04:46 bag he would
04:46 bag 9:45pm on a sunday night
04:46 bag probably not around
04:46 wizzyrea be another 4-5 hours for him :/
04:47 gmcharlt dcook: you need list context, scalar context
04:47 wizzyrea more.
04:47 gmcharlt *not scalar context
04:47 bag heya gmcharlt and wizzyrea
04:47 wizzyrea omg. he is
04:47 dcook gmcharlt: How do I specify that?
04:47 gmcharlt @fields = $rec->field('6..')
04:47 huginn` gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
04:47 * wizzyrea forgets he's on west coast time now
04:47 gmcharlt rather than $field = $rec->field('6..')
04:47 gmcharlt huginn`: hush
04:47 huginn` gmcharlt: I suck
04:47 bag there you go I know you need a @ :P
04:47 dcook It won't do it automatically?
04:48 dcook As in, won't create a list within the scalar that can be dereferenced with a @?
04:48 gmcharlt dcook: in a word, no
04:48 gmcharlt and I don't think I want Perl to be quite that clever! ;)
04:48 dcook hehe
04:48 dcook Well, in any case, thank you very much, gmcharlt :)
04:48 dcook And you too, bag!
04:48 dcook gmcharlt++
04:48 dcook bag++
04:49 dcook Ah yes, as I read the documentation more closely...I see the sense
04:49 dcook Beautiful :)
04:49 dcook I'm writing a feature where patrons specify their subject areas of interest
04:49 bag sounds cool
04:49 dcook Then a cronjob checks each night for new bibs in those areas of interests and sends a digest email with the info
04:51 dcook Specifically meant for a special library context but could be useful to others..
05:14 cait good morning #koha
05:14 dcook morning cait :)
05:14 cait hi dcook :)
05:37 dcook tag_grep could be handy in MARC::Record...
06:41 rangi can anyone see this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/tr_list_runs.cgi?product_id=2&limit=25¤t_tab=run
06:41 dcook Depends
06:41 dcook What are we looking for?
06:41 dcook The interface is there but no test cases
06:41 rangi or this
06:41 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/tr_show_run.cgi?run_id=1
06:42 rangi i may have borked the permissions
06:42 dcook Can't see the second one
06:43 dcook You are not authorized to view run 1
06:43 rangi ah yep permissions
06:43 rangi cool thanks
06:43 dcook np
06:46 cait bbl
06:51 reiveune hello
06:51 wahanui what's up, reiveune
06:54 rangi hi reiveune
07:10 gaetan_B hello
07:26 christophe_c hello #koha
07:28 dcook hey ya christophe_c
07:28 dcook Time for me to head off for the night
07:28 dcook au revoir
07:56 kf hi christophe_c
08:02 christophe_c hi kf ;-)
08:02 christophe_c !later tell dcook hello
08:02 christophe_c :-/
08:03 christophe_c not the good bot :)
08:03 kf with @ :)
08:03 kf at the beginning instead of !
08:44 christophe_c oh thx kf ;-)
08:44 christophe_c @later tell dcook hello
08:44 huginn` christophe_c: The operation succeeded.
08:44 christophe_c \o/
08:44 christophe_c :)
08:44 christophe_c @kf ++
08:44 huginn` christophe_c: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
08:45 christophe_c :-D
08:45 kf tht without @ :)
09:15 eythian hi
09:21 kf morning eythian
09:21 kf dokuwiki--
09:22 eythian kf: hello.
09:22 eythian How's signing off that bug going? ;)
09:22 kf not sure, currently we are pretty busy with sending a library live :)
09:22 eythian ah right, that's a reasonable excuse then :)
10:10 kf oleonard++
10:11 eythian https://campaign.joeyh.name/ <-- possibly relevant to your interests.
10:12 kf what does git-annex do?
10:15 eythian https://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/ <-- /me clicks the link for you :)
10:15 kf yah - have mercy, it's monday
10:15 kf and i am still annoyed at the dokuwiki discussion plugin
12:03 oleonard Hi #koha
12:58 eythian http://musiclove.rs/
13:22 oleonard I wonder why the mailing list person is looking at the Fedora INSTALL file for installing on OSX
13:23 eythian :qa
13:23 eythian gar
13:41 kf ?
13:55 gmcharlt @quote random
13:55 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011)
13:56 kf heh
14:08 druthb @quote random
14:08 huginn` druthb: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010)
14:23 kf hm can someone test if the 008 value builder works for them in current master?
14:27 gmcharlt kf: checking
14:28 gmcharlt kf: hmm, I think I see what you mean
14:29 gmcharlt ah, running afoul of an Apache config issue
14:29 * gmcharlt digs
14:30 gmcharlt looks like a side-effect of commit 83cf63f7a
14:33 gmcharlt kf: for the moment, to get your DB to Just Work, try commenting out the two <DirectoryMatch> stanzas in the active koha-httpd.conf -- specifically, the ones below the 'secure iternal stuff' comments
14:33 gmcharlt then reload Apache
14:39 kf gmcharlt: does it have other side effects apart of 008?
14:40 kf currently i am struggling with git bz... probably going to give up anytime soon
14:40 kf and use wget to get the patches
14:40 gmcharlt kf: the other affect I'm seeing is that the favicon is getting blocked
14:40 gmcharlt grr
14:40 gmcharlt *effect
14:40 kf grr
14:43 kf which bug was that?
14:44 kf ah found it
14:44 kf still no idea why git bz is not working
14:45 gmcharlt kf: are you using the fishsoup branch?
14:45 kf yes
14:45 eythian kf: describe the symptoms
14:45 kf mom
14:45 kf i can#t paste from the server to here
14:46 kf paste.koha-community.org/119
14:47 eythian that looks like a configuration error, maybe you should re-do the git-bz config
14:47 eythian although, I'd expect it to have failed before then
14:47 eythian I don't really know.
14:48 kf typoed in the git config variables
14:48 kf fixed
14:49 kf eythian: you wouldn't believe how incredibly faster the new server is compared to the virtualbox installation :D
14:49 eythian well, your vbox is for some reason terribly slow.
14:49 kf it was :(
14:49 kf and it got worse and worse
14:49 kf in the end even typing in a terminal was laggy
14:50 tcohen hi kf eythian gmcharlt
14:50 eythian hello
14:51 kf so as we can't reproduce, it's mostly regression testing?
14:53 eythian yeah
14:54 kf it seems to work alright
14:57 kf done
14:57 kf gmcharlt: 10590 passed qa
14:57 gmcharlt kf: great
15:06 pianohacker good morning #koha
15:06 pianohacker kf: around?
15:06 * druthb goes :P at pianohacker.
15:07 reiveune bye
15:07 pianohacker I want to harass you for sticking your tongue out at me but my vaguely southern upbringing won't let me do so without guilt...
15:08 * druthb has a double whammy on you, pianohacker. That vaguely-southern upbringing doesn't let you pick on women or old folks, and she is both.
15:08 pianohacker that's it!
15:09 druthb :P
15:09 pianohacker ah well. I'll have to settle for a discontented hello, and how are you
15:10 druthb hm. Have you seen those zombies in AMC's _The Walking Dead_? That's what I felt like, this morning. Up, shambling around, making grunting noises, and looking for something to eat, rather mindlessly..
15:10 kf pianohacker: here
15:10 pianohacker That's about what I feel like every morning
15:12 pianohacker kf: In case you've had a chance to look, did the followup for bug 10320 satisfy your concerns? I'm still not entirely familiar with the translation system, so some parts were a bit hazy
15:12 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search
15:13 kf pianohacker: that looks better but if you are not sure, you can run perl translate update de-DE from misc/translator
15:13 kf and then check the po files
15:13 kf if the string shows up and if it references your file in the comments
15:13 pianohacker ah okay. thanks
15:14 kf we normally don't do the space there I think; _( '
15:14 kf butit should not make a difference i gues
15:14 kf oh right
15:14 kf we use "
15:14 kf have you run the tests on your changes?
15:15 kf it should complain, although the space might confuse it
15:15 kf _( 'No results found in the library\'s OverDrive collection.' ) < pootle is often not happy with escaped stuff
15:15 pianohacker Hm. The translator script seemed to handle both, but I can see pootle being unhappy
15:15 kf so I think we settled on using " so people can use ' in their translations
15:17 gmcharlt general question -- do folks need favicon to be language-specific, or can it just live in koha-tmpl/{opac,intranet}-tmpl/$theme/images ?
15:17 kf overall looks good to me, but would test it a bit more
15:17 pianohacker woah, I just realized that the spaces-inside-parentheses rule no longer seems to be codified
15:17 kf i think not enough room for much script in a favicon... so I woudl be ok with a global one :)
15:18 kf pianohacker: ?
15:19 pianohacker gmcharlt: That was a thing at some point, correct? Was that the change that happened with http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL1:_Perltidy ?
15:19 kf tcohen: will you pick more from master or do you want to hear about those patches as well?
15:19 gmcharlt pianohacker: presumably -- I must admit, I *hate* some of the default perltidy settings; I prefer the ones in xt/perltidyrc
15:20 eythian https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Makefile <-- Linux for Workgroups
15:22 gmcharlt tcohen: in case you haven't already seen it, please note bug 10590
15:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
15:22 gmcharlt @later tell cjh please note bug 10590
15:22 huginn` gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
15:23 pianohacker gmcharlt: interesting. Can't imagine having cuddled-else off, but I really like vt=1 as opposed to 0 or 2
15:23 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=89cf013a6fadcb1347151798f3fdab0d8c75cd15> / Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=57866d6b67c3f8b29290150f21c71395315a73fe>
15:23 pianohacker didn't know that it was a common perl practice though
15:24 pianohacker eythian: He really did it? awesome
15:24 gmcharlt @later tell bgkriegel please note bug 10590
15:24 huginn` gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
15:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #1311 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:28 tcohen kf: i want to pick what is needed from master
15:28 tcohen gmcharlt: yes, was looking at it after reading your email
15:40 eythian new master packages published.
15:41 AmitG heya all
15:48 rambutan @seen jcam
15:48 huginn` rambutan: I have not seen jcam.
15:48 rambutan oops
15:48 rambutan @seen jcamins
15:48 huginn` rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 52 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <jcamins> mtompset: not using indy branches if you want to share books?
15:48 gmcharlt kf: bug 10592
15:48 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10592 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Apache configuration is blocking fetch of certain icons and XML files
15:49 pianohacker gmcharlt: In that realm, I had to open up fetching of XSLT in the apache config for bug 10486. Can you see that being a huge issue?
15:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
15:50 khall oleonard: jonathan notices an oddity with the qotd datatable after applying the patch for bug 10558. Any ideas? Everything looked good to me, but I'm no css wizard.
15:50 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Convert records table in manage-marc-import.pl to ajax DataTable
15:52 khall @later tell oleonard jonathan notices an oddity with the qotd datatable after applying the patch for bug 10558. Any ideas? Everything looked good to me, but I'm no css wizard.
15:52 huginn` khall: The operation succeeded.
15:52 gmcharlt pianohacker: for that, my inclination would be to just take out the filtering of the xslt directory
15:53 pianohacker gmcharlt: exactly what I did
15:53 gmcharlt the main value of the patch for 9812 was not exposing the template source willy-nilly
15:54 * gmcharlt notes that the patches attached to bug 10486 don't currently actually do that
15:55 gaetan_B bye !
15:55 pianohacker what? hrm. Could have sworn
15:55 pianohacker Follow-up time
15:59 pianohacker gmcharlt: done, thanks for pointing that out
16:06 mtompset Greetings, #koha
16:13 AmitG heya gmcharlt
16:13 wahanui gmcharlt is probably an expert in all things library technology.
16:13 gmcharlt howdy
16:13 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9770: fix sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dba36a7a1216238a260ea5fbe2218627487e9f19> / Bug 9770: test case for sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bce45b4bf55e82345efed2850d9cb5fd77f3c483> / Bug 10447: add 'ru' and 'uk' to Zebra indexing language list <http
16:13 gmcharlt phasefx_++
16:15 * druthb waves to mtompset.
16:15 mtompset Greetings, druthb.
16:15 mtompset Greetings, gmcharlt AmitG.
16:16 mtompset I was amazed at the awesome speed of coordination to push in security patches in Koha. That's great!
16:23 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10575 : GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45fafb31ce03244011513a3a758e28f8db9615a4> / Bug 10189: Translate values in UNIMARC 128b/c cataloguing plugins to English <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=80ea8bf821ba83fd4506f5298f5a582051b44e06> / Bug 10258: offer to create basket group only when staff user has
16:23 tweetbot [off] twitter: @gmcharlt: "Happy day. I just pushed a patch from a new contributor to Koha! #KohaILS"
16:26 tweetbot [off] twitter: @saschel: "Secretly in love with beta interface of Beacon by World Maritime University Library https://t.co/k63h5Z74cf - runs on #KohaILS #blacklight"
16:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1311: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1311/
16:45 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
16:45 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option
16:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
16:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #66 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:01 drojf yay for fixing the security thing in a few hours!
17:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #66: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/66/
17:28 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10590 - in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
17:29 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 10590 - parameterise the limit option
17:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7110: Renewal messages no longer displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled
17:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10590 critical, P1 - high, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , in opac-topissues limit param is not protected
17:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7110 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Renewal messages still displays in OPAC if OpacRenewalAllowed is disabled.
17:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #1312 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:01 mtompset Greetings, cait.
18:02 oleonard khall: Are you sure Chrome pulled a fresh copy of the CSS when you tested Bug 10558 again?
18:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Convert records table in manage-marc-import.pl to ajax DataTable
18:03 khall oleonard: good thinking, I'll clear my cache and retest
18:04 khall bam. I'll sign that patch now!
18:05 khall thanks for your wizardry on this patch oleonard!
18:05 oleonard Any time.
18:06 * oleonard polishes his pointy felt hat
18:06 cait hi oleonard and khall :)
18:06 cait oleonard: i think i had a question for you... an dnow of course I don#t remember
18:06 cait oh and hi mtompset
18:06 cait oh right - oleonard - hte cart bug. do you have a minute?
18:06 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. :)
18:06 oleonard yes
18:07 cait making sure i am on recent master, then retesting
18:08 cait oleonard: it#s still happening fo rme :(
18:08 khall hi cait!
18:08 cait hm maybe firebug will tell something?
18:10 cait oleonard: i might have a lead
18:10 cait can you try to add a record without any items?
18:11 cait hm that's not it, it especially dislikes the first record in my result list
18:11 * cait is still puzzled
18:11 tcohen bye #koha, c u later
18:12 cait ok, it seems to be something about that record...
18:13 cait oleonard: i found it.... *sigh* out of date index
18:13 cait i reindexed yesterday, not sure what's wrong there, i will mark the bug invalid
18:15 * oleonard updates the Cart so that it can travel back in time and display deleted records
18:16 mtompset go back further and make it display things before they are entered, oleonard. ;)
18:17 cait oleonard: thx for listening ;)
18:24 drojf are there going to be new packages with the fix for 10590?
18:24 drojf probably too late for eythian *ping*
18:24 cait hm good question
18:27 mtompset If not, perhaps you could roll your own?
18:27 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
18:28 drojf i already did. i always roll my own ^^
18:28 mtompset I'm looking at possibly doing that in the future.
18:28 drojf it's fun, you should try it
18:29 mtompset But do you roll your own for a production system?
18:29 drojf it's not productive yet but i will, yes. for a little while until what we need is in standard koha
18:30 mtompset Have you upgraded from a self-rolled system to a newer packaged system?
18:31 drojf basically it's the fun of koha with git combined with the convenience of the packages. plus an hour of packaging time on my slow VM
18:31 * mtompset cringes, "I feel your pain, drojf."
18:32 drojf on the machines we are using now, we started with standard packages and upgraded to our own. and at some point we will upgrade to a newer standard package again
18:33 drojf as long as you do not build custom packages that do weird stuff to the database i don't see any problems
18:37 * drojf disappears to do non-koha things
18:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1312: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1312/
18:45 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10504: Remove the unused C4::Acq::ModOrderItem routine
18:45 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10447: add 'ru' and 'uk' to Zebra indexing language list
18:45 jenkins_koha * Jason Etheridge: Bug 9770: test case for sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes
18:45 jenkins_koha * Jason Etheridge: Bug 9770: fix sorting of Dewey call numbers that contain prefixes
18:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10258: fix permissions check for setting basket group for order basket
18:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10504 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , C4::Acquisition::ModOrderItem is unused
18:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10258: offer to create basket group only when staff user has correct permission
18:45 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10189: Translate values in UNIMARC 128b/c cataloguing plugins to English
18:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10447 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Language definitions for 'ru' and 'uk' are not available during install
18:45 jenkins_koha * Kenza Zaki: Bug 10575 : GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction
18:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9770 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::ClassSortRoutine::Dewey can pad the wrong part of a call number internally
18:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10258 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove erroneous call to haspermission in basket.pl
18:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10189 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , French values in cataloging plugins for unimarc 128b and 128c fields
18:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10575 normal, P5 - low, ---, kenza.zaki, Pushed to Master , UT: GetOrdersByBiblionumber.t needs a database transaction
18:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #67 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:48 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. :)
19:04 rambutan where are the SIP configs on the Koha server?
19:06 rambutan not: /home/koha/kohaclone/etc/SIPconfig.xml
19:06 rambutan there's another place, isn't there?
19:07 cait hm mayb if you have a dev installation but not sure
19:08 rambutan we have a git install
19:08 cait i woud check koha-dev/etc then
19:08 cait but i am not sure
19:09 rambutan ah! 2 points to cait
19:09 rambutan tnx
19:09 cait np
19:10 druthb cait++
19:19 oleonard cait++ # He said *two* points
19:19 cait lol thx
19:22 cait hm wonder if 7438 is still an issue
19:22 cait bug 7438
19:22 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7438 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , After attaching an item, clicking Cataloging breadcrumb results in 404 Error
19:23 * cait is going through an old list of bugs she wrote down for some reason
19:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #67: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/67/
19:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 10495: set precondition for HoldsQueue test
19:26 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10336: HoldsQueue.t needs to create its own data
19:26 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10386: improvements to VirtualShelves.t
19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10495 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , t/db_dependent/HoldsQueue.t can fail unnecessarily
19:26 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8884: opacheader is not in the header on CCSR
19:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8884: (follow-up) rearrange placement of the top-bar div in CCSR
19:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: test cases for the KohaBranchName plugin
19:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10494: remove spurious warnings from the KohaBranchName plugin
19:26 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10484: serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10336 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , UT: HoldsQueue.t needs to create its own data
19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10386 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , UT: VirtualShelves.t needs some more adjustments
19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8884 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , opacheader is not in the header on CCSR
19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10494 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , KohaBranchName sends useless warnings to log if supplied library code is null or not present
19:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10484 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , serials-edit.pl not checking for barcode field before checking for barcode subfield
19:45 cait wizzyrea: around?
19:51 cait oleonard: still around?
19:51 oleonard Yes
20:03 tweetbot [off] twitter: @wizzyrea: "Really glad to be a member of a community that doesn't do any of that. #rpt #KohaILS"
20:09 pianohacker gmcharlt: as the maintainer of MARC::Record, do you have a preferred JS equivalent?
20:09 tweetbot [off] twitter: @daskey: "hey #KohaILS users: what's the largest academic library using Koha that comes to mind?"
20:15 cait good question from daskey hm.
20:32 cait wizzyrea: around? (second try :) )
20:39 cait hmm
20:43 pianohacker cait: what's up?
20:44 cait i have some questions about holds and was looking for an expert :)
20:56 wizzyrea i am now
20:56 wizzyrea sup
20:57 * wizzyrea waves at cait
20:57 cait oh hi :)
20:58 cait can i ask you some questions about holds between multiple branches? :)
20:58 cait in that case 2 actually
20:59 wizzyrea sure
20:59 cait the question is, if you can configure koha so that they can only place holds on items, that are not available (= checked out, for reference) at the patron library's branch
21:01 cait and the other is allowonshelfholds I think... it's global, but if i turn it off... can i still reserve items from other branches? I will have to do lots of tsting... but there are so many holds parameters it#s rather confusing
21:01 * cait offers cookies
21:02 wizzyrea ok, so if we were to write a story about this
21:03 wizzyrea borrower A from library 1 cannot place reserves on items at library 1 unless they are checked out
21:03 wizzyrea borrower B from library 2 wants to place an item on (an on shelf or unavailable item?) from library 1, can they do it?
21:03 wizzyrea is that the question?
21:04 wizzyrea are you asking me if borrower b can place reserves on an on-shelf item from library 1?
21:04 cait now i am confused
21:04 cait :)
21:04 cait let me reread that
21:04 cait borrower A from library 1 cannot place reserves on items at library 1 unless they are checked out < YES
21:05 wizzyrea so library 1 wants allowonshelfholds OFF
21:05 cait so let's say all copies are checked out, but there is one at the other branch, he should be able to order that copy
21:05 wizzyrea no.
21:05 cait no = not possible?
21:05 wizzyrea not unless it is checked out
21:05 cait *sigh*
21:05 cait i was afraid of that
21:06 wizzyrea allow on shelf holds means "yes, allow available items to be placed on reserve" or "no, do not allow available items to be placed on reserve"
21:06 cait yeah... i thought maybe i could get some magic happen for things not at the same branch
21:06 cait or probably more hoping
21:06 wizzyrea so if library 2 has an item that is on the shelf, borrower A still can't place a reserve on it.
21:07 cait or we turn it ON... but then he can place a hold on it and noone is ever going to get the item for him.
21:07 cait or the item from the other branch will be sent in... which is not really right
21:07 wizzyrea well it will turn up on library2's pick list
21:07 wizzyrea hold queue, sorry
21:08 wizzyrea but that assumes no independent branches
21:08 cait will it turn up on the holdqueue for his library first if there is an available item?
21:08 cait what changes with indybranches?
21:08 wizzyrea libraries can't see each other.
21:08 cait we stlil can allow reserves
21:09 wizzyrea ok so NEKLS does exactly what you are talking about
21:09 wizzyrea they allow on shelf holds
21:09 cait at leat there is a parameter for that especially for use with indybranches
21:09 wizzyrea no independent branches
21:09 wizzyrea borrower A wants an item from library 2, places a reserve, there are 48 potential libraries that can fill that.
21:10 wizzyrea the hold queue does some dancing, and assigns the reserve to a library
21:12 cait would the hold queue be able to prefer the own library if the item is available there?
21:12 cait was available there...
21:14 wizzyrea you can use the hold queue weight
21:14 wizzyrea the hold queue has changed a lot, you can use the transport cost matrix
21:14 wizzyrea too
21:15 wizzyrea but I don't have a ton of experience with that
21:15 wizzyrea like, you could make it super cheap to get a book from your own library, but really expensive to get one from another
21:15 wizzyrea and then it would game the system into preferring the home branch
21:15 wizzyrea I think it might do some of that by default
21:16 cait wizzyrea: ok
21:17 wizzyrea i haven't looked super closely at the new hold queue code.
21:17 wizzyrea it changed in... 3.10?
21:20 cait not sure
21:22 cait wizzyrea++ wizzyrea++
21:22 cait have to ponder this more - thx for the pointers :)
22:01 wizzyrea gl
22:01 * wizzyrea just had a humorous freudian slip
22:02 wizzyrea they're not "MARC subfields," they're "MARC subfiends."
22:05 jcamins wizzyrea: sounds about right.
22:05 wizzyrea :)
22:15 pianohacker bye #koha
23:37 tcohen c'mon jenkins
23:39 dcook morning #koha
23:39 tcohen hi dcook
23:39 dcook hey tcohen :)
23:41 tcohen junkins is a bit lazy today
23:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #68 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:46 cjh I am not sure I will have much time to Rmaint until the weekend, cutting it close...
23:47 tcohen hi cjh
23:48 cjh ahh drats, will have to try get it done before that so we have time to translate.
23:48 cjh hi tcohen
23:48 tcohen dates can be moved too
23:55 wizzyrea aw be sweet to jenkins.
23:55 wizzyrea bots have feelings too.
23:55 cjh wahanui: do you have feelings?
23:55 wahanui i don't know, cjh
23:55 dcook Junkins is a rather great terrible nickname though :p
23:56 tcohen i didn't do it on purpose
23:56 tcohen maybe a sub-conscious thing :-P
23:57 dcook ;)