Time Nick Message 00:41 aqualaptop jcamins: nm, found it, you have mail 00:41 jcamins aqualaptop++ # thanks! 00:41 aqualaptop no worries :D 00:41 * aqualaptop was bored, and got a bug mail today so thought i would do it ;) 00:43 * aqualaptop is now aquaman 01:14 cjh aquaman++ 01:14 cjh aquaman: I guess this means I have to try fix a bug in mahara... 01:56 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 03:29 * mtompset waves goodbye and wishes everyone a great weekend. 05:53 * Oak waves 05:54 Oak @wunder islamabad 05:54 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 28.0°C (10:00 AM PKT on July 06, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising). 06:02 * wizzyrea waves 06:13 rangi evening 06:38 cait hi #koha 07:16 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:16 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.5°C (9:15 AM CEST on July 06, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 07:16 cait morning drojf 07:46 tweetbot [off] twitter: @metal_librarian: "@melanerpes @adr MARC21 unless you're in France or a few other European countries, I believe. #KohaILS" 07:48 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 07:48 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:25 PM NZST on July 06, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). 08:20 cjh it is surprisingly warm here atm. 08:21 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 08:21 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 21.7°C (10:12 AM CEST on July 06, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady). 08:26 drojf cait: thanks for the links, i saw the message on inetbib :) 08:27 cait :) 08:58 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ranginui: "just signed off on a #KohaILS bug that allows merging authority records, super handy" 09:01 tweetbot [off] twitter: @KiwiLibrarian: "@ranginui Awesome - thanks. We love our #KohaILS" 09:22 rangi http://hreplib.congress.gov.ph/ 09:22 rangi with thta 09:22 rangi i think koha must run every single library in the philippines 09:23 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/SoutheastAsia 09:23 cait cool 09:26 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ranginui: "another #KohaILS library in the Philippines http://t.co/9Mw3NHEBzK .. i think that must be almost all of them http://t.co/1l4CIzm0Hi" 09:37 drojf "Koha 2.2.9 on Fedora"?? i hope the wiki is just really outdated 09:37 rangi no, they really did that 09:37 rangi hopefully they have upgraded by now 09:39 drojf <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0900028" /> 09:39 drojf is in one of the two that i found that had an url 09:39 rangi ahh thats good 09:40 drojf that is an impressive list :) 09:41 drojf we should smuggle some evergreen in to prevent monoculture ;) 09:43 rangi :) 13:38 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:39 mtompset Just read the logs. Actually for the Philippines, my hope is that my librarian colleague will talk to the other libraries in the Philippines and get them to upgrade. 14:28 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. 14:28 tcohen hi mtompset 14:28 mtompset didn't get my public/private key stuff working, but I went with aes256/rijndael instead. 14:29 tcohen talking about? 14:29 mtompset my external authentication patch that I'm working on. 14:29 tcohen oh 14:30 mtompset basically, my patch adds a URL to the OPAC login page. the URL redirects to an external authentication source (like SimpleSAMLPHP) which authenticates, and then passes back encrypted user attributes used to log the user in. 14:31 mtompset and if the user isn't in the local DB, it creates them. 14:32 mtompset How's your weekend going? 14:33 tcohen slow mtompset, really slow 14:33 tcohen i was struggling with some git weirdness 14:34 tcohen while watching the wimbledon finals 14:35 tcohen would you do a little experiment on a k-c clone? 14:35 mtompset Ooo... your presence reminded me about the patagonian mara that my family and I saw on Canada Day. 14:35 mtompset sure. what kind of experiment? 14:35 mtompset 32bit or 64bit? 14:35 tcohen on an updated git clone 14:35 tcohen do: git checkout origin/3.8.x -b test_3.8 14:36 jcamins tcohen: that's backwards. 14:36 mtompset Yes, that's backwards. 14:36 jcamins It should be `git checkout -b test_3.8 origin/3.8.x` 14:36 tcohen git rm misc/translator/po/da-DK-pref.po 14:37 tcohen git commit -m "testing" 14:37 tcohen git format-patch origin/3.8.x 14:37 tcohen git reset --hard origin/3.8.x 14:37 mtompset what is -m on git commit? 14:38 tcohen git am -3 -u 0001-testing.patch 14:38 tcohen does it apply? 14:38 mtompset just booting VM now. 14:39 tcohen (-m means "use this as commit message", only used for this example) 14:39 tcohen (jcamins: i think is interchangeable 14:39 tcohen ) 14:39 mtompset okay... logging in. 14:40 tcohen the thing is, what format-patch produces (on the translate server) cannot be applied 14:40 mtompset okay branched... 14:41 tcohen did u try it jcamins? 14:41 jcamins tcohen: I did not. I was letting mtompset do it since he has a VM. 14:41 tcohen heh, ok 14:41 mtompset I added -o ~ on the format 14:42 mtompset Yes, it applied. 14:42 tcohen ok, so it is something related to that server then 14:43 tcohen i'll figure it out 14:43 tcohen it works fine on my 13.04 box 14:43 mtompset I also did the order jcamins and I were expecting. 14:43 mtompset for the git checkout. 14:45 tcohen i don't think it makes any difference 14:45 tcohen thanks for testing 14:45 tcohen there's something with the server i'll have to figure out 14:45 tcohen maybe asking druthb 14:45 tcohen or, druthb_away 14:46 mtompset ooo.... lots to git pull today. 14:53 tcohen gmcharlt has been busy u know 14:57 tcohen hi cait 14:57 cait hi tcohen 15:04 mtompset That he has. When I first joined the community, I didn't really see him. But lately, wow! 15:04 mtompset Greetings, cait. :) 15:05 mtompset Greetings, jcamins. Did you have a good July 4? 15:05 cait hi mtompset 15:05 cait mtompset: whom are you talking about? 15:05 mtompset gmcharlt has been super active lately. 15:05 cait aah yeah :) 15:06 cait he has been too i na time long before you younglings arrived here ;) 15:06 mtompset gmcharlt++ # for super activity and awesome care. :) 15:06 mtompset I figured as such when I first arrived. 15:10 mtompset And since tcohen is asking about 3.8.x, I figure he must be doing something active behind the scenes. :) 15:11 tcohen no no 15:11 tcohen i'm preparing my bash-completion patch, and the koha-create rewrite 15:11 tcohen but right now working on our custom 3,12 deployment 15:12 cait tcohen: you have impressed us :) 15:12 cait well me at least :) 15:12 cait tcohen: there is a patch for acq 15:12 cait that had a lot of bug reports 15:12 cait could you maybe push that to 3.12 over the weekend? 15:12 tcohen just email me about it, i'll see what can i do 15:13 mtompset Greetings, druthb. 15:13 cait tcohen: :) 15:13 druthb Hi, mtompset! :) 15:15 cait tcohen++ 15:31 mtompset Now where is NateC popping in and out? ;) 15:32 mtompset He missed the moments of discussion. :) 17:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10366: DBRev 3.13.00.010 - add AcqWarnOnDuplicateInvoice syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35d888643f3b3c281e0212b04ed770d3a86ce1e1> / Bug 10366: Alert librarian if an invoice number is duplicated <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d47b85692152a34fcd89acc9ec9032558d46844> 17:24 cait yay :) 17:24 cait jcamins++ 17:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #1294 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1294: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1294/ 18:44 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10366: Alert librarian if an invoice number is duplicated 18:44 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10366: DBRev 3.13.00.010 - add AcqWarnOnDuplicateInvoice syspref 18:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Alert librarian if an invoice number is duplicated 18:45 cait my 18:45 cait that hotel booking form is ... 18:45 cait weird. 18:47 cait oh right, the form died. 18:48 cait that's so weird. 19:47 mtompset question: what category does koha_perl_deps.pl fall under? 19:57 * mtompset smiles. 19:57 mtompset I love trivial patches. :) 20:17 drojf evening #koha 20:18 mtompset Greetings, drojf. 20:18 mtompset How is your weekend thus far? 20:18 drojf hi mtompset 20:18 drojf not very interesting. cleaning out old junk, throwing away a lot of stuff 20:18 cait hi drojf 20:18 drojf and yours? 20:18 wahanui i heard yours was better actually 20:18 cait drojf++ 20:19 drojf hi cait 20:19 drojf i get karma for cleaning? :D 20:20 cait yes :) 20:20 mtompset Nothing much. I just submitted a trivial patch for koha_perl_deps.pl 20:20 drojf cait: cool, i should do it more often then 20:20 * mtompset laughs. 20:20 cait you will have to send evidence then soon 20:21 cait sending cookies would get you karma too 20:21 * cait is just making a suggestion 20:21 mtompset if he doesn't, will you deduct the karma? 20:21 mtompset any kind of preference on the cookies, cait? ;) 20:22 cait anything with chocolate and nuts, except hazelnuts works 20:22 drojf [off] would you care for a something like a hundred or two of recorded cds? i destroyed them all but they are still here. amazing how much stuff i used to burn on cds 20:22 cait i did that a while ago 20:22 cait [off] which method did you use for destroying them? 20:23 drojf [off] cutting knife. i once bought a shredder but the cd part broke very soon 20:24 drojf [off] a guy i used to share a flat with once destroyed my microwave oven by putting a lot of cds inside 20:24 cait [off] ouch. i used a cutting knife too 20:25 drojf [off] i think there are even more on the shelve, this was just from a box. meh 20:25 drojf shelf? 20:25 drojf too late for english 20:25 cait yeah 20:25 cait but you started - that counts :) 20:26 jcamins [off] A friend of mine preferred jump ropes for destroying CDs. He'd put them in a plastic bag, throw the bag in the air while jumping rope, and knock the CDs to bits when the jumprope hit the bag. 20:26 drojf [off] two boxes gone and a lot of cable stuff strapped together 20:26 drojf [off] lol jcamins that is a nice and creative idea 20:27 mtompset Aaaaah! query->redirect takes a -cookie parameter . :) 20:27 drojf i take a -cookie paramter 20:27 drojf parameter even 20:27 cait me too 20:30 drojf i have so many power supplies, it's unbelievable. i think i will have to spend half a day searching the web to find out for which ones i got a device and which ones are orphaned 20:31 cait heh 21:07 drojf if i find non-utf8-encoding in a file, is that considered a bug? 21:09 drojf likein ilsdi: xmldecl => '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>', 21:11 jcamins Yes. 21:14 drojf the cool thing is, it outputs xml in latin1 or whatever that is and then inside it uses utf8 for the marc data :) 21:15 jcamins Of course it is. 21:19 drojf ok i'll fix that then, thanks jcamins 21:25 cait drojf++ for fixing things :) 21:25 drojf maybe it wouldn't be bad to have ILS-DI as component in bugzilla? 21:26 cait hm yeah, not sure who can do that, maybe rangi or gmcharlt 21:26 cait is there one for webservices? 21:26 drojf no. there is an extra one for sip2 21:26 cait hm 21:26 drojf and one for self checkout 21:27 cait hm the second is maybe the web based one 21:27 gmcharlt ILS-DI is too specific, but a component for web services seems reasonable to me 21:28 drojf gmcharlt: can you magically make that appear? 21:28 * gmcharlt waves magic wand with a phoenix feather 21:28 gmcharlt ... 21:28 cait hehe 21:28 gmcharlt nothing 21:28 drojf :D 21:28 * gmcharlt goes to the BZ administration page instead 21:28 cait we totally belive in you :) 21:29 * cait has booked her hotel for reno tonight :) 21:29 drojf what are you doing in reno tonight? 21:29 gmcharlt OK, that worked better -- there's a component for Web services now 21:29 cait drojf: :P 21:30 drojf yay 21:30 drojf gmcharlt++ 21:31 cait gmcharlt++ :) 21:37 drojf we use UTF-8, not utf-8, right? i think i saw a bug for that but can't find it now 21:38 cait no idea 21:39 cait can't remember a bug hm 21:41 drojf looks like that was specific to :encode(UTF-8). bug 7816 21:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7816 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, use encoding(UTF-8) not utf-8 for output streams 21:54 drojf did something happen to git-bz or bz again? i get Failed to attach patch to bug 10549, status=200 21:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10549 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, NEW , ILS-DI should not use ISO-8851-9 encoding 21:54 cait hm 21:55 cait sometimes it give sme that hwen i try to change to a status that needs some other set first 21:55 cait maybe try assigning the bug to yourself 21:56 drojf i did that 21:56 cait hm it's still set to NEW? 21:56 drojf oh 21:56 * cait switches to assigned 21:56 cait try again? :) 21:56 cait nt sure it will work 21:56 cait but worth trying 21:57 drojf no 21:57 cait try git bz attach without -e 21:58 drojf i did 21:58 cait still not working? 21:58 cait are you logged into bugzilla? 21:58 drojf well, not again after you changed it 21:58 drojf yes 21:58 cait hmpf 21:58 cait no iea 21:58 jcamins You updated? 21:59 drojf jcamins: updated what? i am on the fishsoup branch with git-bz if that is what you mean 22:00 jcamins That's what I meant. 22:00 cait drojf: did you just update? 22:00 cait fo rme it didn't work immediately 22:00 drojf no 22:00 cait i think closing/reopening/rebooting fixed it 22:00 drojf some time ago 22:00 cait whatever, it suddenly started working 22:01 drojf i think i have used it already, but i don't remember for what :) 22:01 cait hm 22:01 drojf maybe i did not and it never worked 22:01 cait try walking around the canal... then it will owrk 22:01 drojf heh 22:02 cait :) 22:02 cait going to sleep guys, have a nice rest of your days :) 22:02 drojf good night cait 22:22 drojf no, can't make it work. checked the symlink, everything looks ok 22:47 drojf when i renew really long overdue books, i renew them to a date in the past. like from 12.01.2013 to 19.01.2013. is that a feature that i don't understand? 22:48 drojf (01/12/2013 to 01/19/2013 for US people) 22:48 jcamins drojf: a kind of iffy feature, but yes. 22:49 jcamins You can change your it by adjusting renewalbase. 22:51 drojf hm but if you choose the old date as renewalbase, wouldn't it make sense to check if it is in the past and maybe say it's impossible? 22:52 jcamins drojf: probably. 22:52 drojf or is the idea that i use up all my x renewals one after the other and see if i reach the present? :) 22:52 jcamins I'm not sure. 22:53 drojf i think current date is usual in germany so i will probably forget about it soon 22:54 drojf i would not make it to half a year of overdue in real life too 22:57 tcohen hi #koha 22:58 tcohen i'm catching up with 3.12.x rmaint work 22:58 drojf hi tcohen 22:58 tcohen if you have any thoughts on patches that should go into it, just let me know 22:58 tcohen besides that, hows' your weekend drojf ? 23:00 drojf quiet. did some cleaning and then tried to attach a patch to git but git-bz did not let me 23:00 drojf attach a patch to bz, not to git 23:02 cjh hey tcohen :) 23:02 tcohen hi cjh 23:03 tcohen how r u doin? 23:03 cjh good thank you, in theory I have just finished my studies :) 23:03 cjh how are things on your end? 23:04 tcohen really fine thanks 23:04 tcohen i have winter holidays next week so trying to make some pushes into 3.12.x today 23:05 cjh awesome, we should see some of that trickle down to 3.8 soon then :) 23:05 tcohen hope so 23:11 * drojf leaves 23:11 drojf good night #koha 23:15 tcohen we are pushing patches this weekend folks http://snag.gy/rH7aO.jpg 23:20 cjh team 3.12.x 23:22 jcamins I think Myshkin is very sensibly sleeping in the bedroom. 23:22 jcamins Last night I gave up and turned on the A/C. 23:23 jcamins (so the bedroom is still cooler than the rest of the apartment) 23:23 tcohen heh, its cold down here jcamins 23:23 * jcamins wishes it were cold. 23:26 tcohen do we have any SQL syntax checker? 23:26 tcohen (tests) 23:27 jcamins tcohen: nope. It'd be nice if we did, but it turns out that there's no way to test MySQL short of running it. 23:30 tcohen bgkriegel's work on the authority frameworks looks great 23:37 * jcamins contemplates search result pages.