Time  Nick         Message
00:41 aqualaptop   jcamins: nm, found it, you have mail
00:41 jcamins      aqualaptop++ # thanks!
00:41 aqualaptop   no worries :D
00:41 * aqualaptop was bored, and got a bug mail today so thought i would do it ;)
00:43 * aqualaptop is now aquaman
01:14 cjh          aquaman++
01:14 cjh          aquaman: I guess this means I have to try fix a bug in mahara...
01:56 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
03:29 * mtompset   waves goodbye and wishes everyone a great weekend.
05:53 * Oak        waves
05:54 Oak          @wunder islamabad
05:54 huginn       Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 28.0°C (10:00 AM PKT on July 06, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising).
06:02 * wizzyrea   waves
06:13 rangi        evening
06:38 cait         hi #koha
07:16 cait         @wunder Konstanz
07:16 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 21.5°C (9:15 AM CEST on July 06, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
07:16 cait         morning drojf
07:46 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @metal_librarian: "@melanerpes @adr MARC21 unless you're in France or a few other European countries, I believe. #KohaILS"
07:48 wizzyrea     @wunder nzwn
07:48 huginn       wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (7:25 PM NZST on July 06, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising).
08:20 cjh          it is surprisingly warm here atm.
08:21 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
08:21 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 21.7°C (10:12 AM CEST on July 06, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Steady).
08:26 drojf        cait: thanks for the links, i saw the message on inetbib :)
08:27 cait         :)
08:58 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ranginui: "just signed off on a #KohaILS bug that allows merging authority records, super handy"
09:01 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @KiwiLibrarian: "@ranginui Awesome - thanks. We love our #KohaILS"
09:22 rangi        http://hreplib.congress.gov.ph/
09:22 rangi        with thta
09:22 rangi        i think koha must run every single library in the philippines
09:23 rangi        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/SoutheastAsia
09:23 cait         cool
09:26 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ranginui: "another #KohaILS library in the Philippines http://t.co/9Mw3NHEBzK .. i think that must be almost all of them http://t.co/1l4CIzm0Hi"
09:37 drojf        "Koha 2.2.9 on Fedora"?? i hope the wiki is just really outdated
09:37 rangi        no, they really did that
09:37 rangi        hopefully they have upgraded by now
09:39 drojf        <meta name="generator" content="Koha 3.0900028" />
09:39 drojf        is in one of the two that i found that had an url
09:39 rangi        ahh thats good
09:40 drojf        that is an impressive list :)
09:41 drojf        we should smuggle some evergreen in to prevent monoculture ;)
09:43 rangi        :)
13:38 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
13:39 mtompset     Just read the logs. Actually for the Philippines, my hope is that my librarian colleague will talk to the other libraries in the Philippines and get them to upgrade.
14:28 mtompset     Greetings, tcohen.
14:28 tcohen       hi mtompset
14:28 mtompset     didn't get my public/private key stuff working, but I went with aes256/rijndael instead.
14:29 tcohen       talking about?
14:29 mtompset     my external authentication patch that I'm working on.
14:29 tcohen       oh
14:30 mtompset     basically, my patch adds a URL to the OPAC login page. the URL redirects to an external authentication source (like SimpleSAMLPHP) which authenticates, and then passes back encrypted user attributes used to log the user in.
14:31 mtompset     and if the user isn't in the local DB, it creates them.
14:32 mtompset     How's your weekend going?
14:33 tcohen       slow mtompset, really slow
14:33 tcohen       i was struggling with some git weirdness
14:34 tcohen       while watching the wimbledon finals
14:35 tcohen       would you do a little experiment on a k-c clone?
14:35 mtompset     Ooo... your presence reminded me about the patagonian mara that my family and I saw on Canada Day.
14:35 mtompset     sure. what kind of experiment?
14:35 mtompset     32bit or 64bit?
14:35 tcohen       on an updated git clone
14:35 tcohen       do: git checkout origin/3.8.x -b test_3.8
14:36 jcamins      tcohen: that's backwards.
14:36 mtompset     Yes, that's backwards.
14:36 jcamins      It should be `git checkout -b test_3.8 origin/3.8.x`
14:36 tcohen       git rm misc/translator/po/da-DK-pref.po
14:37 tcohen       git commit -m "testing"
14:37 tcohen       git format-patch origin/3.8.x
14:37 tcohen       git reset --hard origin/3.8.x
14:37 mtompset     what is -m on git commit?
14:38 tcohen       git am -3 -u 0001-testing.patch
14:38 tcohen       does it apply?
14:38 mtompset     just booting VM now.
14:39 tcohen       (-m means "use this as commit message", only used for this example)
14:39 tcohen       (jcamins: i think is interchangeable
14:39 tcohen       )
14:39 mtompset     okay... logging in.
14:40 tcohen       the thing is, what format-patch produces (on the translate server) cannot be applied
14:40 mtompset     okay branched...
14:41 tcohen       did u try it jcamins?
14:41 jcamins      tcohen: I did not. I was letting mtompset do it since he has a VM.
14:41 tcohen       heh, ok
14:41 mtompset     I added -o ~ on the format
14:42 mtompset     Yes, it applied.
14:42 tcohen       ok, so it is something related to that server then
14:43 tcohen       i'll figure it out
14:43 tcohen       it works fine on my 13.04 box
14:43 mtompset     I also did the order jcamins and I were expecting.
14:43 mtompset     for the git checkout.
14:45 tcohen       i don't think it makes any difference
14:45 tcohen       thanks for testing
14:45 tcohen       there's something with the server i'll have to figure out
14:45 tcohen       maybe asking druthb
14:45 tcohen       or, druthb_away
14:46 mtompset     ooo.... lots to git pull today.
14:53 tcohen       gmcharlt has been busy u know
14:57 tcohen       hi cait
14:57 cait         hi tcohen
15:04 mtompset     That he has. When I first joined the community, I didn't really see him. But lately, wow!
15:04 mtompset     Greetings, cait. :)
15:05 mtompset     Greetings, jcamins. Did you have a good July 4?
15:05 cait         hi mtompset
15:05 cait         mtompset: whom are you talking about?
15:05 mtompset     gmcharlt has been super active lately.
15:05 cait         aah yeah :)
15:06 cait         he has been too i na time long before you younglings arrived here ;)
15:06 mtompset     gmcharlt++ # for super activity and awesome care. :)
15:06 mtompset     I figured as such when I first arrived.
15:10 mtompset     And since tcohen is asking about 3.8.x, I figure he must be doing something active behind the scenes. :)
15:11 tcohen       no no
15:11 tcohen       i'm preparing my bash-completion patch, and the koha-create rewrite
15:11 tcohen       but right now working on our custom 3,12 deployment
15:12 cait         tcohen: you have impressed us :)
15:12 cait         well me at least :)
15:12 cait         tcohen: there is a patch for acq
15:12 cait         that had a lot of bug reports
15:12 cait         could you maybe push that to 3.12 over the weekend?
15:12 tcohen       just email me about it, i'll see what can i do
15:13 mtompset     Greetings, druthb.
15:13 cait         tcohen:  :)
15:13 druthb       Hi, mtompset! :)
15:15 cait         tcohen++
15:31 mtompset     Now where is NateC popping in and out? ;)
15:32 mtompset     He missed the moments of discussion. :)
17:18 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10366: DBRev - add AcqWarnOnDuplicateInvoice syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=35d888643f3b3c281e0212b04ed770d3a86ce1e1> / Bug 10366: Alert librarian if an invoice number is duplicated <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d47b85692152a34fcd89acc9ec9032558d46844>
17:24 cait         yay :)
17:24 cait         jcamins++
17:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #1294 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1294: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1294/
18:44 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10366: Alert librarian if an invoice number is duplicated
18:44 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10366: DBRev - add AcqWarnOnDuplicateInvoice syspref
18:44 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Alert librarian if an invoice number is duplicated
18:45 cait         my
18:45 cait         that hotel booking form is ...
18:45 cait         weird.
18:47 cait         oh right, the form died.
18:48 cait         that's so weird.
19:47 mtompset     question: what category does koha_perl_deps.pl fall under?
19:57 * mtompset   smiles.
19:57 mtompset     I love trivial patches. :)
20:17 drojf        evening #koha
20:18 mtompset     Greetings, drojf.
20:18 mtompset     How is your weekend thus far?
20:18 drojf        hi mtompset
20:18 drojf        not very interesting. cleaning out old junk, throwing away a lot of stuff
20:18 cait         hi drojf
20:18 drojf        and yours?
20:18 wahanui      i heard yours was better actually
20:18 cait         drojf++
20:19 drojf        hi cait
20:19 drojf        i get karma for cleaning? :D
20:20 cait         yes :)
20:20 mtompset     Nothing much. I just submitted a trivial patch for koha_perl_deps.pl
20:20 drojf        cait: cool, i should do it more often then
20:20 * mtompset   laughs.
20:20 cait         you will have to send evidence then soon
20:21 cait         sending cookies would get you karma too
20:21 * cait       is just making a suggestion
20:21 mtompset     if he doesn't, will you deduct the karma?
20:21 mtompset     any kind of preference on the cookies, cait? ;)
20:22 cait         anything with chocolate and nuts, except hazelnuts works
20:22 drojf        [off] would you care for a something like a hundred or two of recorded cds? i destroyed them all but they are still here. amazing how much stuff i used to burn on cds
20:22 cait         i did that a while ago
20:22 cait         [off] which method did you use for destroying them?
20:23 drojf        [off] cutting knife. i once bought a shredder but the cd part broke very soon
20:24 drojf        [off] a guy i used to share a flat with once destroyed my microwave oven by putting a lot of cds inside
20:24 cait         [off] ouch. i used a cutting knife too
20:25 drojf        [off] i think there are even more on the shelve, this was just from a box. meh
20:25 drojf        shelf?
20:25 drojf        too late for english
20:25 cait         yeah
20:25 cait         but you started - that counts :)
20:26 jcamins      [off] A friend of mine preferred jump ropes for destroying CDs. He'd put them in a plastic bag, throw the bag in the air while jumping rope, and knock the CDs to bits when the jumprope hit the bag.
20:26 drojf        [off] two boxes gone and a lot of cable stuff strapped together
20:26 drojf        [off] lol jcamins that is a nice and creative idea
20:27 mtompset     Aaaaah! query->redirect takes a -cookie parameter . :)
20:27 drojf        i take a -cookie paramter
20:27 drojf        parameter even
20:27 cait         me too
20:30 drojf        i have so many power supplies, it's unbelievable. i think i will have to spend half a day searching the web to find out for which ones i got a device and which ones are orphaned
20:31 cait         heh
21:07 drojf        if i find non-utf8-encoding in a file, is that considered a bug?
21:09 drojf        likein ilsdi: xmldecl => '<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>',
21:11 jcamins      Yes.
21:14 drojf        the cool thing is, it outputs xml in latin1 or whatever that is and then inside it uses utf8 for the marc data :)
21:15 jcamins      Of course it is.
21:19 drojf        ok i'll fix that then, thanks jcamins
21:25 cait         drojf++ for fixing things :)
21:25 drojf        maybe it wouldn't be bad to have ILS-DI as component in bugzilla?
21:26 cait         hm yeah, not sure who can do that, maybe rangi or gmcharlt
21:26 cait         is there one for webservices?
21:26 drojf        no. there is an extra one for sip2
21:26 cait         hm
21:26 drojf        and one for self checkout
21:27 cait         hm the second is maybe the web based one
21:27 gmcharlt     ILS-DI is too specific, but a component for web services seems reasonable to me
21:28 drojf        gmcharlt: can you magically make that appear?
21:28 * gmcharlt   waves magic wand with a phoenix feather
21:28 gmcharlt     ...
21:28 cait         hehe
21:28 gmcharlt     nothing
21:28 drojf        :D
21:28 * gmcharlt   goes to the BZ administration page instead
21:28 cait         we totally belive in you :)
21:29 * cait       has booked her hotel for reno tonight :)
21:29 drojf        what are you doing in reno tonight?
21:29 gmcharlt     OK, that worked better -- there's a component for Web services now
21:29 cait         drojf: :P
21:30 drojf        yay
21:30 drojf        gmcharlt++
21:31 cait         gmcharlt++ :)
21:37 drojf        we use UTF-8, not utf-8, right? i think i saw a bug for that but can't find it now
21:38 cait         no idea
21:39 cait         can't remember a bug hm
21:41 drojf        looks like that was specific to :encode(UTF-8). bug 7816
21:41 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7816 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, RESOLVED FIXED, use encoding(UTF-8) not utf-8 for output streams
21:54 drojf        did something happen to git-bz or bz again? i get Failed to attach patch to bug 10549, status=200
21:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10549 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mirko, NEW , ILS-DI should not use ISO-8851-9 encoding
21:54 cait         hm
21:55 cait         sometimes it give sme that hwen i try to change to a status that needs some other set first
21:55 cait         maybe try assigning the bug to yourself
21:56 drojf        i did that
21:56 cait         hm it's still set to NEW?
21:56 drojf        oh
21:56 * cait       switches to assigned
21:56 cait         try again? :)
21:56 cait         nt sure it will work
21:56 cait         but worth trying
21:57 drojf        no
21:57 cait         try git bz attach without -e
21:58 drojf        i did
21:58 cait         still not working?
21:58 cait         are you logged into bugzilla?
21:58 drojf        well, not again after you changed it
21:58 drojf        yes
21:58 cait         hmpf
21:58 cait         no iea
21:58 jcamins      You updated?
21:59 drojf        jcamins: updated what? i am on the fishsoup branch with git-bz if that is what you mean
22:00 jcamins      That's what I meant.
22:00 cait         drojf: did you just update?
22:00 cait         fo rme it didn't work immediately
22:00 drojf        no
22:00 cait         i think closing/reopening/rebooting fixed it
22:00 drojf        some time ago
22:00 cait         whatever, it suddenly started working
22:01 drojf        i think i have used it already, but i don't remember for what :)
22:01 cait         hm
22:01 drojf        maybe i did not and it never worked
22:01 cait         try walking around the canal... then it will owrk
22:01 drojf        heh
22:02 cait         :)
22:02 cait         going to sleep guys, have a nice rest of your days :)
22:02 drojf        good night cait
22:22 drojf        no, can't make it work. checked the symlink, everything looks ok
22:47 drojf        when i renew really long overdue books, i renew them to a date in the past. like from 12.01.2013 to 19.01.2013. is that a feature that i don't understand?
22:48 drojf        (01/12/2013 to 01/19/2013 for US people)
22:48 jcamins      drojf: a kind of iffy feature, but yes.
22:49 jcamins      You can change your it by adjusting renewalbase.
22:51 drojf        hm but if you choose the old date as renewalbase, wouldn't it make sense to check if it is in the past and maybe say it's impossible?
22:52 jcamins      drojf: probably.
22:52 drojf        or is the idea that i use up all my x renewals one after the other and see if i reach the present? :)
22:52 jcamins      I'm not sure.
22:53 drojf        i think current date is usual in germany so i will probably forget about it soon
22:54 drojf        i would not make it to half a year of overdue in real life too
22:57 tcohen       hi #koha
22:58 tcohen       i'm catching up with 3.12.x rmaint work
22:58 drojf        hi tcohen
22:58 tcohen       if you have any thoughts on patches that should go into it, just let me know
22:58 tcohen       besides that, hows' your weekend drojf ?
23:00 drojf        quiet. did some cleaning and then tried to attach a patch to git but git-bz did not let me
23:00 drojf        attach a patch to bz, not to git
23:02 cjh          hey tcohen :)
23:02 tcohen       hi cjh
23:03 tcohen       how r u doin?
23:03 cjh          good thank you, in theory I have just finished my studies :)
23:03 cjh          how are things on your end?
23:04 tcohen       really fine thanks
23:04 tcohen       i have winter holidays next week so trying to make some pushes into 3.12.x today
23:05 cjh          awesome, we should see some of that trickle down to 3.8 soon then :)
23:05 tcohen       hope so
23:11 * drojf      leaves
23:11 drojf        good night #koha
23:15 tcohen       we are pushing patches this weekend folks http://snag.gy/rH7aO.jpg
23:20 cjh          team 3.12.x
23:22 jcamins      I think Myshkin is very sensibly sleeping in the bedroom.
23:22 jcamins      Last night I gave up and turned on the A/C.
23:23 jcamins      (so the bedroom is still cooler than the rest of the apartment)
23:23 tcohen       heh, its cold down here jcamins
23:23 * jcamins    wishes it were cold.
23:26 tcohen       do we have any SQL syntax checker?
23:26 tcohen       (tests)
23:27 jcamins      tcohen: nope. It'd be nice if we did, but it turns out that there's no way to test MySQL short of running it.
23:30 tcohen       bgkriegel's work on the authority frameworks looks great
23:37 * jcamins    contemplates search result pages.