Time Nick Message 00:05 cjh something really odd is going on with these translation files 00:05 cjh bgkriegel has emailed me a tar of them, I cped them over, added, committed, made a patch 00:06 cjh and then trying to apply them to 3.8.x the patch faals 00:06 cjh really odd behavior. 00:09 cjh so I can apply the translations myself but bgkriegel cannot sign off, diffing his patch against mine they are the same (other than author/date) 00:11 cjh not sure how to proceed, I can use my manually created commit but I cannot share it as a patch. 00:11 jcamins cjh: that _is_ bizarre. 00:11 cjh bgkriegel: I can push it to 3.8.x and have you look at it, but you wont be able to sign off as you cant push 00:11 cjh jcamins: very 00:11 cjh it could be something to do with character encoding 00:12 cjh so I can push my manual changes which are possibly broken, or we can skip translation updated for this release. 00:12 cjh I feel the latter is safer 00:12 bgkriegel me too 00:12 jcamins Agreed. 00:12 cjh good enough for me, 3.8.14 will not have translation updates. 00:13 bgkriegel :( 00:13 cjh we can get it next month, we will have more time to wrestle with it 00:13 bgkriegel ok 00:13 cjh my money is on encoding and/or funky characters screwing up the patch format. 00:15 bgkriegel I'll try to find those beasts 00:15 cjh I could write a script to add each file and try patch & apply to find the bad ones. 00:16 cjh but that will have to be a bit later, exam study takes priority atm. 00:27 jcamins What's the exam on? 00:28 mtompset Oh shoot! a bracketing problem in Auth. 00:29 mtompset (my work, not anything anyone else is doing) 00:29 cjh jcamins: I have 2, programming languages (haskell and prolog) and user interfaces (god knows) 00:30 mtompset *whew* just my junk line I forgot to delete. :) 00:30 cjh and lunch is ready :) 00:32 jcamins Ooh! Learned you a Haskell! 00:33 cjh indeed I did :) 00:33 cjh also a great book. 00:33 jcamins Never actually read it. 00:33 jcamins Perhaps I should. 00:33 jcamins On the other hand, perhaps I'd find myself switching from Node.js to Haskell for Biblionarrator before I've even rewritten Biblionarrator in Node. 00:33 cjh it was quite a fun language to learn, and we then used it to make some toy programming languages :) 00:34 cjh heh 00:43 mtompset no lisp? ;) 00:52 cjh sadly no, plan to learn one of them one day, havent had the chance yet 00:55 mtompset What about ADA? 00:55 mtompset Sorry, just recalling those ancient university days of mine. ;) 00:56 cjh heh no, my degree only really covered java, haskell and prolog, and a tiny amount of python and c. 00:56 cjh pushed 3.8.14 and tags 00:56 mtompset What is your degree in? 00:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #325 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:56 cjh computer science 00:57 mtompset what university? 00:57 bgkriegel cjh++ 00:57 cjh mtompset: victoria university of wellington 00:57 cjh bgkriegel: so next is rolling a tarball and agreeing on a time to send an email/blog post? 00:59 bgkriegel just do the tarball, scp it , prepare your mail and send it 00:59 bgkriegel I tried the install before sending the email, just in case 00:59 mtompset *sigh* Is OpenIDP down for anyone else? Does anyone else here use it? 01:00 cjh bgkriegel: scp the tarball to where? 01:01 bgkriegel oh, rangi said: "scp releases/koha-3.10.06.tar.gz* bugs.koha-community.org:/home/uploads/files/" 01:02 bgkriegel but I don't know if he made a user for you 01:02 cjh doesnt seem like it, tried chris and chrish 01:02 cjh oh well I can email it and deal with scp later 01:02 bgkriegel ok 01:03 jcamins If you put it somewhere web accessible, I can copy it over. 01:03 jcamins If you send out an e-mail, you'll get responses almost immediately complaining that the release isn't there. 01:03 cjh ty, have to make and test first :) 01:03 cjh heh 01:03 * cjh has never made a tarball before 01:05 cjh oh roll_release.sh, awesome 01:06 jcamins That's very old, I think. 01:06 jcamins I use release-tool.pl. 01:32 * mtompset grumbles about how his test for his saml related patch has stalled due to openidp.feide.no being non-responsive. 01:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #325: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/325/ 01:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Hall: Database update for 3.8.14 release 01:34 jenkins_koha * Chris Hall: Update release notes for 3.8.14 release 01:34 cjh thank you jenkins_koha 01:39 * mtompset claps. 01:39 cjh have to send the email still 01:40 mtompset Progress still. :) 01:40 mtompset It is your first release, correct? 01:40 cjh assuming I get it out, yes :) 01:48 cjh jcamins: just uploading it somewhere you can get at it. 01:48 jcamins Ta. 01:53 cjh jcamins: segfault.net.nz/releases.tar 01:53 cjh should contain everything you need, ty 01:53 cjh I should have gzipped, oops 01:54 cjh doing that now :) 01:54 jcamins No need. 01:54 jcamins Already downloaded. 01:54 cjh and it made no difference to size, contents already gzipped. 01:54 cjh awesome. 01:54 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, cjh 01:54 jcamins 5.79 MB/s is really nice. 01:55 jcamins Whoah. 7.9 MB/s upstream! 01:55 cjh nice 01:59 mtompset Those are approaching slow 100mbps NIC cards. That is very nice. 01:59 jcamins Uploaded. 02:00 cjh ty jcamins 02:00 cjh will send release email shortly. 02:00 cjh jcamins++ 02:06 cjh hi tcohen 02:07 tcohen hi cjh 02:11 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. 02:11 mtompset Let stressed now that the release is out? :) 02:11 mtompset Less... 02:14 cjh and email sent 02:15 tcohen heh, indeed 02:15 tcohen the wine helped too :-P 02:22 tcohen wizzyrea: how to i render correctly the release notes? 02:22 tcohen verbatim output 02:22 jcamins tcohen: view the release notes on gitweb and copy and paste. 02:22 tcohen yes, I did that, but the release anouncement doesnt look fine 02:30 tcohen <pre> 03:53 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. 11:00 * cait waves 20:38 wizzyrea hi tohen, I'm not sure I understand your question 20:38 wizzyrea also good morning 20:38 wizzyrea <time of day> 20:41 cait hi wizzyrea 21:00 cjh morning 21:02 cait hi cjh 21:02 * wizzyrea waves to cjh 21:11 cjh hello fellow kohaians 21:11 * cait feels ignored by wizzyrea :) 21:12 wizzyrea >.< hi cait 21:12 cjh heh 21:12 wizzyrea sorry 21:14 cait heh 21:16 wizzyrea cjh did you get the release sorted out? 21:17 wizzyrea on download? 21:17 cjh well sorted out might be a bit strong, but it is released and up on the download site :) 21:17 cjh although I will need an account on bugs so I can scp it next time, jcamins helped me out. 21:20 cjh ohhhh maybe I am wrong, just saw the email from paul 21:20 cjh and replying :) 21:25 jcamins You mean my filters are still working? Yay! 21:51 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7339] Help System in IE8 Does Not Load With 500 Error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339> / [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing (umbrella report) <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536> / [Bug 6504] no way to ent 22:44 eythian hi 22:44 wahanui kai ora, eythian 23:37 jcamins I never thought I'd say this about Javascript... but I think I like node.js. At least when compared to PHP. 23:37 * dcook is intrigued 23:37 dcook Switching over to node.js for Biblionarrator? 23:37 jcamins Yep. 23:38 dcook Neato. I've been meaning to take a look at node.js. Now I have a reason :p 23:38 jcamins Excellent! 23:38 * jcamins adds dcook to the list of people who are going to be contributing to Biblionarrator. 23:39 dcook Sounds good to me. 23:39 jcamins I'm also switching to the graph database Titan. https://github.com/thinkaurelius/titan/wiki 23:39 dcook I seem to have dealt with the networking issues I was having last week, so home server is in a pretty good state at this point 23:39 jcamins Woohoo! 23:40 dcook Oooh. I've wanted to look at graph databases too... 23:40 jcamins Careful. 23:40 jcamins They will make your brain explode. 23:40 dcook Hmm, that would be suboptimal. 23:42 jcamins The next step in Biblionarrator development is for me to write unit tests for the REST APIs, and switch the REST APIs to Node. 23:42 dcook Sweet. Do you have any outlines for the project anywhere? 23:43 jcamins Not really. You know when I decided that was the next step? 23:43 dcook hehe 23:43 dcook I can imagine :p 23:43 jcamins Approximately 7 minutes ago, right before I announced I liked Node. 23:44 jcamins Well- thought I liked Node. 23:44 jcamins Which is good enough, because I know I hate PHP. 23:44 dcook Finally joined the rest of the fold, eh? :p 23:44 dcook What made you decide that? 23:44 * dcook is still indifferent 23:44 jcamins Oh, I've hated PHP all along. 23:45 jcamins I decided to change to node.js because I like what I'm reading about test frameworks. 23:45 dcook Mmm, I do remember you saying before that you hated all web scripting languages 23:45 rangi node isnt web 23:45 dcook I was referring to PHP, rangi 23:46 rangi php is bad for lots of reasons, but not really because you can use it for websites :) 23:46 dcook hehe 23:46 dcook Fair enough 23:46 rangi i mean i dislike a lot of languages 23:47 rangi but php is the only one id avoid using 23:47 rangi http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ 23:47 dcook Aren't both Drupal and Moodle written in PHP? 23:47 jcamins I hadn't quite realized before that there were testing frameworks for other languages that seemed _good_. 23:47 dcook Yeah, I've read through that page a couple times, I think 23:47 rangi yep, thats why i dont work on those teams :) 23:48 dcook Makes sense 23:51 jcamins But I was astonished to discover just now that node.js has testing libraries for REST APIs with documentation that I can actually comprehend. 23:53 jcamins Probably if we had a proper PSGI application we could do unit tests for Koha easily, too. 23:53 jcamins (and I had never heard of such a thing before I stumbled across it) 23:56 rangi yep its easy to start moving script by script to proper psgi and not run under the psgi emulation 23:56 rangi its a much better solution that adding our everywhere :) 23:57 tcohen hi rangi, jcamins, dcook 23:57 dcook hey tcohen 23:58 rangi hi tcohen 23:59 tcohen hmm, I had two irc clients running 23:59 rangi jcamins: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=release-notes.html#v44_feat_webservices_details 23:59 rangi (we are running 4.4 now)