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23:59 eythian Have heard of rocket though :)
23:59 eythian I've never heard of arugula.
23:59 gmcharlt "rocket" is a new one on me
23:59 gmcharlt and I've never heard anything but arugula ... :)
23:59 dcook Huh...
23:59 dcook [off] She's not the only one. Also, yes. That is so true. Back in Canada, I used to grow my own in old aquariums. Worked really really well. We've started growing some along our sidewalk now as well, since the shops charge ridiculous amounts for herbs.
23:59 jcamins Yeah, I only started hearing arugula in the last few years.
23:58 dcook Whoa...really?
23:56 jcamins It's rocket here, too.
23:56 jcamins [off] Shari has trouble telling the difference between cilantro and parsley, so I tend not to get it. Also, herbs are too expensive for me to justify.
23:56 dcook Took me a while to figure that last one out
23:56 dcook And arugula is rocket/rockette/roquette
23:55 dcook Although we call it coriander down here
23:55 dcook Hmm...I think we use cilantro quite a bit
23:55 dcook jcamins: I think that's always the case ;)
23:55 jcamins I have to figure out what to do with the cilantro.
23:54 jcamins dcook: bet you could get more spinach and potatoes if you bought them uncooked. :P
23:54 dcook There's a little shop down the road from my house that makes delicious saag aloo.
23:54 jcamins We're getting cilantro, escarole, purple kohlrabi, romaine lettuce, scallions, baby arugula, and red beets.
23:54 dcook Mmm. Saag paneer would be tasty.
23:54 dcook Right, I forgot about that..
23:54 jcamins Community Supported Agriculture.
23:53 dcook CSA?
23:53 dcook Ooo
23:53 * jcamins impatiently waits for his wife to get back from picking up the CSA veggies so that he can make the saag paneer.
23:53 dcook hehe. It shouldn't be too bad. Just lots to do between now and October.
23:51 jcamins Pffft. No problem.
23:51 jcamins Heh.
23:50 dcook Now all that's left is to make the presentation..
23:49 dcook Wise move. I probably should've booked it a while ago, but we just had to sort out who was paying what and when.
23:49 rangi sweet
23:49 jcamins I booked the hotel a few weekends ago.
23:48 jcamins Yay!
23:48 dcook Hotel has in fact been booked :)
23:47 dcook hey ya rangi
23:47 rangi hi dcook
23:47 dcook morning #koha
23:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10332: further improvements to course reserves tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8743f5aab5e1eb49a138bea155e8b82bcaeaa68f> / Bug 10332: Data could exist in the courses table. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d157179618241f6b3aa5e6cf54ac5cd08cac90f8> / Bug 10332: CourseReserves.t needs to create its own data <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha
23:43 jcamins Pretty amazing.
23:42 jcamins Awww.
23:42 gmcharlt jcamins: no -- Marlene didn't find out about it until after the fact
23:42 jcamins gmcharlt: http://mashable.com/2013/06/17/longest-book-chain/ <-- did you get to see this?
23:06 pianohacker bye all
22:37 rangi that would be great
22:37 rangi if someone could eyeball the last patch on there, that i just added
22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8798 enhancement, P3, ---, elliott, Signed Off , Add the use of DBIx::Class
22:36 rangi bug 8798
22:33 cait hi eythian :)
22:32 bag hi eythian
22:28 eythian hi
21:47 pianohacker Hah! I think I might be doing that at some point this summer, actually, but it depends on other plans :)
21:46 jcamins Reduce the QA queue so that non-ByWaterian members of the QA team have cycles free to look at it?
21:46 jcamins Probably wait, but I didn't look.
21:45 pianohacker If the answer is "wait", that's fine :)
21:45 pianohacker Cool. Also, what can I do to help 10320 get pushed?
21:45 jcamins pianohacker: that's fairly normal.
21:44 pianohacker Have another patch soon incoming that I developed on some of the same code. It ruffle any feathers if I just leave it dependent on the patch for 10320?
21:44 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone.
21:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10320 enhancement, P4, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Show results from library's OverDrive collection in OPAC search
21:43 pianohacker Quick question on bug 10320
21:14 cait tcohen: should be ok if it was only conflicts and no other changes
21:13 wizzyrea :D yw
21:12 cjh wizzyrea++ thanks for that :)
21:09 jcamins wizzyrea++
21:07 tcohen (and the obvious updatedatabase.pl)
21:06 tcohen (absent files that don't need to be deleted again)
21:06 tcohen conflicts were trivial
21:06 tcohen If I rebase the stopwords removal patches, should I remove the signed-off status too?
21:04 tcohen thanks jcamins
21:01 jcamins wizzyrea: hey, do you know who I'd e-mail at NEKLS to ask about how barcode prefixes are assigned in Kansas? Or, even better, do you know how barcode prefixes are assigned?
21:01 tcohen oh, the ^
21:00 jcamins tcohen: if you're on the same repo, you could do `git show bd7e36c563c35cba6a1f35971d31187226f3fabb^`
21:00 tcohen i need to rebase those patches
20:59 jcamins tcohen: you could check when files matched were current.
20:59 wizzyrea look at the parent?
20:59 tcohen sorry, this one http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=17558
20:59 tcohen bd7e36c563c35cba6a1f35971d31187226f3fabb
20:58 tcohen is it possible to know what commit was a patch built against?
20:57 bag afternoon all
20:50 cait i didn#t even dare to mention it ;)
20:50 gmcharlt right, backwards-compatibiity is one of MariDB's design points
20:50 * cait forgets about it then
20:50 jcamins And, of course, the proposed solution was unspeakably dreadful.
20:50 cait even better :)
20:50 jcamins cait: I'm pretty sure none of the problems he identified would get in the way of using MariaDB.
20:49 cait it's on the wiki
20:49 cait not sure how much mariadb supports of that
20:49 cait ?
20:49 cait but might also be a place to start looking for problemsÃŸ
20:49 cait we didn't agree on the solution
20:49 cait mbalmer did some work on identifying mysqlisms
20:47 jcamins If you don't have DEBUG turned on, the issues aren't visible.
20:47 gmcharlt but in the short term, setting the session sql_mode when Koha opens a database connection may suffice for enough backwards compatibility to make the transition as painless as possible
20:46 jcamins Agreed.
20:45 gmcharlt now in the long run, I think we *want* to be stricter
20:45 jcamins Both are empty.
20:45 gmcharlt upshot is that it's entirely possible that default packages of MariaDB may use a stricter sql_mode setting than default packages of MySQL
20:44 gmcharlt jcamins: https://kb.askmonty.org/en/sql_mode/
20:43 jcamins I'm not even sure what that is.
20:43 jcamins None.
20:43 gmcharlt *have you done
20:43 gmcharlt jcamins: how much playing around have you doing with sql_mode?
20:42 jcamins What fails catastrophically is moving things into old_* tables.
20:42 jcamins Actually, it's not the deleting. That'll work.
20:41 cait ah there he is :)
20:41 jcamins I have not used MySQL on my dev machine in a long time.
20:41 jcamins It's an issue.
20:41 jcamins MariaDB + Plack has an issue where nothing can be deleted successfully.
20:41 cait i think jcamins tried to? *nudges him*
20:40 gmcharlt I will do exactly that
20:40 gmcharlt cait: that's a good idea
20:39 cait would probably be good if some devs would run from it... try to find more. not really an idea how to do it hm.
20:39 cait i think there is a bug somewhere for some problems with mariadb
20:39 cait i am just always a bit careful when posting links - dunno why :)
20:38 cait :)
20:38 gmcharlt [off] also, I see no reason not to log this discussion :)
20:38 gmcharlt [off] it's an excellent sign! /me wouldn't mind making MariaDB or one of its kin the new recommended DBMS for 3.14
20:37 jcamins [off] Wait, we thought that MySQL possibly hadn't gone evil?
20:33 cait [off] guess that's not a good sign?
20:33 cait [off] https://blog.mariadb.org/mysql-man-pages-silently-relicensed-away-from-gpl/
20:13 cait communal cooking...mmh
20:10 rangi ok better take these kids to school
20:09 rangi that might be a lot harder to organise
20:08 rangi id still like to do the communal cooking thing if possible too
20:08 cait :)
20:08 rangi heh
20:07 pianohacker just don't let them know that librarians are coming
20:07 rangi if we all pile into one of the bars and take it over :)
20:07 rangi i think we might be able to get the hotel to let us use one
20:07 pianohacker at kohacon09, I found a piano hidden in a back room of the conference center after some wheedling, actually :)
20:06 rangi heh true
20:06 pianohacker ^ a lot harder than you think!
20:06 pianohacker depends on finding a piano that people won't yell at you for playing
20:05 pianohacker informal, sure ;)
20:04 rangi pianohacker: concert at kohacon?
20:02 pianohacker urgh, yeah. It's been an unfixed bug in Webkit for a loooong time
19:59 jcamins The xsl:import.
19:59 pianohacker which part? I rambled a bit
19:58 jcamins pianohacker: oh, yeah, that bugs me.
19:56 pianohacker Including an shim for xsl:import in godforsaken Webkit, that was fun
19:56 pianohacker I'm reusing the stock XSLT, so I had to make some modifications
19:56 pianohacker jcamins: Weeeeell, simplicity, for the most part :) Most of the intended targts don't support items, especially not in our glommed-on XML format, but it seems to me that you would still want to display an "Availability: nada seÃ±or" line in the catalog
19:51 jcamins (there is nothing wrong with using a param, of course)
19:50 jcamins pianohacker: to clarify, I was wondering why you chose to use a param rather than e.g. the absence of something-that-identifies-a-record-that-might-contain-holdings (to allow for availability display with remote targets that might support availability).
19:49 pianohacker Yup! Still do, wonderful way to relax
19:48 mtompset Ah, so you do (or at least did) play piano. ;)
19:48 pianohacker mtompset: Long story with my old piano teacher, said it looked like I was at a computer keyboard when I was playing piano. Still don't know what exactly he meant by that
19:47 pianohacker jcamins: Ability to disable the display completely for external targets, where it doesn't make sense
19:41 jcamins pianohacker: interesting choice. Why a param?
19:39 mtompset Why pianohacker? Why not zx81hacker? or RaspberryPiHacker?
19:39 pianohacker edveal: I retroactively love you
19:39 pianohacker to disable availability display
19:38 pianohacker I _just_ put in an xslt:param
19:38 pianohacker hahahahahaha
19:36 edveal thanks I will write and testâ€¦ :)
19:36 edveal Right that is what I just concluded...
19:35 jcamins edveal: you can just use a regular if statement. No need for a choose.
19:35 cait yeah if you copy the condition that should work
19:34 edveal So I guess I need to write an additional check in the Availability code to say if this is not present then display this...
19:33 edveal The xslt already checks for it and if it is there it displays content. What I want it to do is then NOT display the "Availability" line.
19:31 cait well you could take a look at how the detail page checks for existence of tags
19:30 edveal Not much yet. LOL
19:30 cait what have you tried?
19:29 edveal Yes
19:29 cait 856? anything additional?
19:29 cait edveal: what do you want to check for?
19:28 edveal I am trying to customize the xslt style sheet to not display the Availability line if Online Access is present.
19:27 edveal jcamins might you be able to help me with an xslt if statement?
19:25 mtompset I mean 113... my math is bad.
19:25 tcohen heh
19:24 mtompset I mean 114.
19:24 mtompset 112 is you want base 5. :P
19:20 tcohen thanks bgkriegel
19:20 tcohen yeah, damm 2-digit base10 representation
19:19 bgkriegel Happy birthday tcohen :-)
19:19 mtompset So it is a nice multiple. :)
19:19 mtompset That should be 132. :P
19:19 cait btw i was wishing you a happy birthday ;)
19:19 tcohen actually, 33
19:19 cait heh :)
19:18 wahanui you are, like, 122
19:18 tcohen tcohen?
19:18 mtompset Ilang taon ba? How old are you? ;)
19:18 tcohen thanks mtompset cait
19:17 mtompset It's just not fulfilling when you have to replicate someone elses trigger. :(
19:16 wahanui mtompset: that doesn't look right
19:16 mtompset wahanui: change your state of being?
19:16 cait Alles Gute zum Geburtstag :)
19:15 cait tcohen: nice!
19:15 mtompset Happy Birthday, dear tcohen...
19:15 mtompset Everybody! Happy Birthday to you...
19:15 tcohen got home earlier to prepare for family party
19:15 tcohen hi mtompset
19:14 mtompset obama?
19:14 mtompset hope and change something
19:13 * mtompset frowns, "Everyone else gets a bot kill, but me?"
19:13 mtompset change
19:13 mtompset hope and change
19:13 mtompset Welcome back, tcohen.
19:13 mtompset hope and change?
19:00 gmcharlt heh
19:00 wahanui gmcharlt: that doesn't look right
19:00 gmcharlt wahanui: change your state of being
18:54 nengard hehe
18:51 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right
18:51 jcamins change something
18:47 nengard change
18:46 jcamins pianohacker: it's "change."
18:40 pianohacker dolla dolla bills are $
18:39 pianohacker does it do interpolation or something?
18:39 wahanui pianohacker: that doesn't look right
18:39 pianohacker wahanui: change that to $()
18:39 pianohacker That's what I'm wondering, what did I do?
18:39 mtompset That's like the Philippines.
18:38 * mtompset frowns, "How to generalize the bot murder?"
18:38 nengard i agree mtompset
18:38 mtompset $'""'
18:37 pianohacker yeah
18:37 pianohacker nengard: uhhh, accidental bot-murder aside, you have to have different kinds of quotes for the inside and outside, so JS doesn't get confused
18:37 nengard bingo ... quotes and capitalization :)
18:36 pianohacker woah what?
18:36 mtompset 87% is horrible.
18:36 wahanui pianohacker: that doesn't look right
18:36 pianohacker nengard: change that to $('#breadcrumbs a[title="Home"]').hide();
18:34 nengard that doesn't work
18:34 nengard $('#breadcrumbs a[title='home']').hide();
18:34 nengard jquery help - how do i hide the Home link on the OPAC:
18:28 huginn pianohacker: The current temperature in Near Trinidad State Junior College, Trinidad, Colorado is 23.9Â°C (12:28 PM MDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 11.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
18:28 pianohacker @wunder 81082
18:27 pianohacker that will suck the blood from your very veins
18:27 cait hm still dropping
18:27 pianohacker dips down to 20% in Trinidad, CO where my parents used to live :P
18:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 27.7Â°C (8:25 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 14.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
18:27 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:27 nengard we have 87%
18:27 nengard 49 is AWESOME
18:27 pianohacker plus 49% humidity in colorado, good _lord_
18:27 nengard it used to just say the town
18:27 nengard that's new
18:27 pianohacker Some travel agency with a weather station on the roof?
18:27 nengard oh look ... mine is JAT Observatory
18:26 nengard hehe
18:26 nengard that can't be a town name
18:26 pianohacker I have no earthly idea
18:26 nengard Off Trail Travel?
18:26 huginn pianohacker: The current temperature in Off Trail Travel, Golden, Colorado is 20.9Â°C (12:24 PM MDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
18:26 pianohacker @wunder 80401
18:26 nengard :)
18:26 mtompset Okay, cool.
18:26 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 25.2Â°C (2:26 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 10.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
18:26 mtompset @wunder L7E 5Y5
18:25 pianohacker that's a reaaaaally big foot-gun gmcharlt
18:25 nengard those are our postal codes
18:25 nengard that we use for weather?
18:25 nengard what numbers?
18:24 cait i wish i would get that, but my brain is still overheating
18:24 mtompset How did you figure out the numbers, jcamins and nengard?
18:22 * gmcharlt both hands out a foot-gun, and recommends against using it
18:20 cait drojf: meany :)
18:20 drojf cait: probably just drums, accompanying the returning sun :P
18:19 cait we really had a super hot day, it will be nice to get some rain
18:19 cait oh i hear thunder!
18:18 nengard we already had a thunderstorm ... so i guess now it's just light rain
18:17 huginn nengard: The current temperature in JAT Observatory, Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania is 21.3Â°C (2:03 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
18:17 nengard @wunder 19030
18:12 cait and the temperature has dropped a bit hm
18:12 cait wonder if we will get a thunderstorm
18:12 cait getting wind
18:12 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 31.4Â°C (8:10 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 17.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
18:12 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:11 jcamins Well thank goodness for that.
18:11 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 23.9Â°C (2:06 PM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
18:11 jcamins @wunder 11375
17:49 cait Alles Gute zum Geburtstag tcohen! :)
17:49 cait oh is it?
17:49 * mtompset whistles Happy Birthday while looking at tcohen. ;)
16:50 kf bug 10490
16:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10490 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Overdue fines cap (amount) in circulation rules rounds
16:50 kf bug 10490
16:50 kf *sigh*
16:49 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 33.3Â°C (6:45 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 20.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
16:49 kf @wunder Konstanz
16:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9728: XISBN unit test update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0941f9058fa96818fceaf2515742ab0f4bebbe1>
16:46 pianohacker thanks for your help
16:46 pianohacker which means part 2 is writing equivalents of etc/pazpar2/marc21-work-groups.xsl for unimarc and normarc
16:45 jcamins pianohacker: and installer/data/mysql/nb-NO/2-Valgfritt/z3950servers.sql for NORMARC, I think.
16:44 jcamins I think they do.
16:44 jcamins Heh.
16:44 pianohacker hopefully some of them work
16:44 pianohacker ah! good idea
16:44 jcamins pianohacker: cat installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/2-Optionel/z3950_BNF.sql
16:42 pianohacker does anyone know of any unimarc/normarc public Z39.50 targets?
16:36 jcamins I don't know, though, sorry.
16:36 jcamins vfernandes: maybe you have to disable the default site?
16:33 vfernandes changed koha-httpd.conf
16:33 vfernandes then added a listen 8080 to listen.conf
16:33 vfernandes I've linked koha-httpd.conf to /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/
16:32 mveron bye bye #koha
16:30 jcamins Sounds like a misconfiguration. Maybe permissions? I don't use opensuse.
16:29 vfernandes Access forbidden: client denied by server configuration: /srv/www/htdocs/
16:29 vfernandes guys, I'm having a problem with opensuse and apache
16:21 pianohacker You using the placeholder attribute?
16:21 pianohacker tcohen: Placeholders are awesome
16:20 jcamins I should have asked Gaetan which university he was visiting.
16:20 jcamins Oh, bother.
16:19 gaetan_B bye !
15:58 tcohen ISSN: <input>
15:58 tcohen I wasn't sure about removing the labels
15:58 * jcamins likes it!
15:58 tcohen jcamins: http://snag.gy/njnk2.jpg
15:52 jcamins rambutan: do you know anything about how barcode prefixes are assigned to libraries in MO?
15:50 gmcharlt tcohen++ # another year!
15:49 pianohacker tcohen: That's awesome
15:46 tcohen thanks jcamins
15:46 tcohen heh
15:46 jcamins Happy birthday!
15:46 tcohen i know i'm a lucky guy pianohacker, its my 33th birthday, and i'm being paid to work on FOSS
15:42 pianohacker tcohen: You're a lucky man. Koha 2.2 was frustrating to deal with
15:41 vfernandes :)
15:41 vfernandes tcohen++
15:40 tcohen so I nkow nothing about 2.x
15:40 tcohen my relation with koha starts at 3.0beta2
15:39 tcohen it should work vfernandes
15:38 vfernandes this is a complicated migration... a client has a koha 2.2, I've already done the update to 3.0
15:37 tcohen they where not fatal
15:37 vfernandes nice :) so to 3.10 should be smooth too... I hope so :P
15:37 tcohen the upgrade raised several warnings regarding tables already present and such
15:37 tcohen yes vfernandez
15:36 vfernandes and everything worked fine tcohen?
15:36 tcohen vfernandes: we did 3.0.x to 3.8.x
15:36 vfernandes from 3.0 i've never done
15:36 vfernandes I've already done updates from 3.2 to 3.8 and everything worked fine
15:35 kf so not going to have to... andglad :)
15:35 kf no 3.0 installations around here
15:35 vfernandes anyone already did an update from 3.0 to 3.10?
15:34 tcohen my first work got stuck when I faced more complex forms
15:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10471 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Global search input box and button geometry not always consistent (browsers, translations)
15:34 tcohen no kf, bug 10471
15:33 mveron kf: yes...
15:33 jcamins So there's Twitter Bootstrap's autocomplete, and there's Twitter Autocomplete.
15:33 kf wrong window? :)
15:32 kf ;)
15:32 mveron http://paste.koha-community.org/70
15:32 mveron Kannst du mal das paste anschauen, ob das vernÃ¼fntig klingt...
15:32 jcamins kf: they are. Twitter realized that the autocomplete they wrote for Bootstrap wasn't good enough and forked it into a separate project.
15:31 kf i thought bootstrap and twitter were related?
15:31 kf hm
15:31 jcamins I switched to Twitter autocomplete and haven't looked back once.
15:31 jcamins I didn't like Bootstrap autocomplete.
15:31 pastebot "mveron" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "For KF regarding German List" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70
15:30 kf tcohen: working on more autocompletes?
15:30 kf tcohen++
15:30 kf bootstrap++
15:30 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. :)
15:29 * tcohen suddenly loves bootstrap and how the search forms look @koha using it ;-)
15:26 kf yes I did
15:25 mveron kf: Did you see the question about "Sonderkategorien fÃ¼r Notenbibliotheken" on the German list?
15:25 mveron Yeah, it's hot. But I do not complain...
15:24 kf mveron: close :)
15:24 mveron hi mtompset :-)
15:24 mtompset Greetings, kf. :)
15:24 mtompset Greetings, mveron. :)
15:23 huginn mveron: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Mulhouse FR, Basel, Switzerland is 33.9Â°C (4:37 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
15:23 mveron @wunder Basel
15:23 mveron hi kf :-)
15:23 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 34.0Â°C (5:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 18.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
15:23 kf @wunder Konstanz
15:23 kf hi mveron
15:23 mveron hi #koha
15:13 * drojf leaves
15:10 mtompset And I think that is very unlikely.
15:09 mtompset but that would require a secondary process stopping for seconds while another one runs.
15:08 mtompset (that being skipped)
15:08 mtompset Okay, because that seems to be the worst case scenario for the patch I'm working on. I'm just running the idea through thought experiments right now. Code will materialize.
15:07 jcamins mtompset: skipped.
15:06 drojf i don't think you would want duplicate card numbers in any case. but maybe that's just me
15:06 mtompset Greetings, drojf. Long time no greet! :)
15:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9826 - Missing fields in MARC21 authority framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12874c4cf71c199cc2d383cf26bdcca89220b6bf>
15:06 drojf hi mtompset
15:06 drojf "This patch is a *followup* to the previous patch" is a great patch description
15:06 mtompset Question: which is a better problem? duplicate card numbers or skipped card numbers?
15:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC
14:52 drojf bug 6874 is epic
14:40 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #68: "gmcharlt: which probably means that library schools ought to rename Cataloging 101 to Identification and Avoidance of Rabbit Holes 101" (added by wizzyrea_laptop at 08:17 PM, March 10, 2010)
14:40 gmcharlt @quote random
14:33 jcamins tcohen: no, that's just what Owen said we should do.
14:32 tcohen is there a bug for that jcamins? or was an RFC?
14:31 tcohen jajaja
14:28 drojf unique selling point. (i think i learned that word here a few days ago)
14:24 jcamins drojf: no, really. I'm serious.
14:24 drojf lol
14:22 jcamins tcohen: Yes, but our standard look and feel is that submit buttons are ugly.
14:21 tcohen oh, that's why the search button isn't pretty jcamins? It isn't bootstrap
14:11 tcohen (just a sample one)
14:11 * tcohen heads to rewrite the search box using saner code :-P
14:10 jcamins Nope. Bootstrap.
14:10 tcohen i thought it was jqueryui thou
14:10 tcohen yes
14:09 jcamins Didn't you notice the beautiful buttons? :)
14:09 jcamins Yes.
14:09 tcohen do we have bootstrap on the staff interface?
14:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9541: make OPAC login page respect OPAC_CSS_OVERRIDE <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71b79d59908cd85130afd8600eff0f93fc79b8a9>
13:53 vfernandes thanks kf, magnuse and jcamins
13:52 vfernandes let's wait then... :D
13:52 kf oh
13:51 kf forget what I said. it's hot.
13:51 magnuse if you just added the robots.txt they might not pick it up until they start a new "session"
13:51 kf right
13:51 kf ah
13:51 jcamins kf: setting up a firewall seems like a bit much.
13:51 kf maybe if you kick it out?
13:51 jcamins They only check once every few days.
13:51 jcamins Or you haven't waited long enough.
13:50 jcamins Or that.
13:50 kf or the robot is mean :)
13:49 jcamins Oh, in that case you have a problem with the syntax, most likely.
13:49 vfernandes bingbot still active
13:49 jcamins Looks fine.
13:49 vfernandes http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt/robots.txt
13:48 jcamins No.
13:48 vfernandes need to restart apache?
13:48 vfernandes https://github.com/fredericd/Koha/blob/master/README.robots
13:48 jcamins vfernandes: in the server root. /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs
13:47 magnuse hm, isn't there an example robots.txt somewhere?
13:45 vfernandes i little question: where to put robots.txt file in Koha to block robots?
13:44 magnuse hiya vfernandes
13:44 vfernandes :)
13:44 vfernandes hi people
13:44 kf not feeling it
13:44 magnuse kf: getting colder!
13:40 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 33.4Â°C (3:15 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
13:40 kf @wunder Konstanz
13:40 huginn kf: The current temperature in Murray Hill, New York, New York is 24.0Â°C (9:40 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 18.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
13:40 kf @wunder nyc
13:25 magnuse [off] sounds like perfect timing!
13:24 drojf [off] when i try to save my wiki changes is always a great time for the internet to stop working. thanks
13:23 drojf [off] oh look, university wifi sucks today, who would have expected that?
13:22 magnuse ok, that's what i thought
13:22 jcamins You have to turn it on manually.
13:21 magnuse how does icu work with the packages?
13:21 magnuse done :-)
13:21 magnuse hehe
13:21 jcamins Yeah, I'd search the wiki for ICU, and if you don't find anything, conclude that there isn't.
13:21 magnuse i found http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Correcting_Search_of_Arabic_records
13:20 jcamins I don't know.
13:20 magnuse is there a good description somewhere of how to activate that (in an existing installation)?
13:19 magnuse ok, that's what i thought
13:19 jcamins Without ICU, they will not be able to search for non-Roman characters, period.
13:18 jcamins ICU.
13:18 magnuse i talked to some librarians from georgia (the country) last week, and they had trouble searching for records with georgian characters. i said the solution was probably icu indexing (or solr). anyone got any other ideas?
13:14 drojf i think it will be nice at the time i leave ;)
13:14 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 27.7Â°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 9.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
13:14 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
13:12 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 25.3Â°C (9:06 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
13:12 jcamins @wunder 11375
13:11 kf !
13:11 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 34.0Â°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 18.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
13:11 kf @wunder Konstanz
13:10 drojf cozy
13:09 magnuse hehe
13:09 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Pituffik, Greenland is 2.0Â°C (9:58 AM ADT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -3.0Â°C. Windchill: -4.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Falling).
13:09 magnuse @wunder thu
13:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Nuuk, Greenland is 4.0Â°C (10:50 AM WGST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising).
13:08 magnuse @wunder goh
13:08 magnuse drojf: i googled for e.g. "airport code tromsÃ¸"
13:05 drojf magnuse: where did you get the working codes from?
13:05 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
13:05 drojf @wunder nuuk, greenland
13:05 huginn drojf: downloading the Perl source
13:05 drojf @wonder nuuk, greenland
13:04 drojf ok i think i prefer 30Â° over 11 right now. (saying that sitting in climated library with probably ~23Â° ;)
13:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Svalbard, Norway is 7.0Â°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0Â°C. Windchill: 5.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling).
13:02 magnuse @wunder lyr
13:02 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
13:02 magnuse @wunder longyearbyen
13:01 magnuse there you go drojf
13:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Tromso - Langnes, Norway is 11.0Â°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
13:01 magnuse @wunder tos
13:01 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
13:01 magnuse @wunder TSÃ˜
13:01 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in OHDOT 38-Carroll County Garage, Carrollton, Ohio is 17.8Â°C (8:31 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 14.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
13:01 magnuse @wunder TSO
13:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Johan Badensveg, Notodden, Norway is 23.3Â°C (3:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 3.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
13:00 magnuse @wunder notodden, norway
13:00 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 3.0Â°C (9:00 AM ART on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 2.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
13:00 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:00 drojf hm
13:00 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
13:00 drojf @wunder tromsÃ¸, norway
13:00 huginn drojf: Error: No such location could be found.
13:00 drojf @wunder tromso, norway
12:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Nesbyen, Norway is 24.9Â°C (2:50 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: . Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: 2.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Steady).
12:59 magnuse @wunder nesbyen, norway
12:59 magnuse gotta be northern norway, though!
12:59 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Holter, Holter, Norway is 24.9Â°C (2:59 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 12.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
12:59 magnuse @wunder oslo, norway
12:59 magnuse kf: yay!
12:44 tcohen rangi++ # qunitjs
12:44 tcohen hi kf
12:44 kf hi tcohen
12:43 tcohen morning #koha
12:35 * kf still wants to move to norway
12:33 chris_n heh => http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/52368854242/writing-unit-tests
12:17 magnuse that's more like it
12:17 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 12.0Â°C (2:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 6.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
12:17 magnuse @wunder boo
12:17 magnuse and they were complaining about it being hotter than usual
12:16 magnuse that's the kind of temp we had in crete
12:16 magnuse oh wow
12:16 kf thought so :(
12:16 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 32.8Â°C (2:15 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
12:16 kf @wunder Konstanz
12:09 libsysguy ^^ random sidebar
12:08 libsysguy I have to say, I have found AngularJS very interesting
12:08 drojf ;)
12:07 libsysguy I did revise "your" to "a" to avoid any "your mom" jokes :p
12:07 drojf are you trying to insult my mother? :P
12:06 libsysguy I would say the "So simple it could be said to a mom" perspective
12:05 drojf what kind of perspective would that be? that's madness
12:05 libsysguy I think they mean "how" in a non-technical perspective
12:04 drojf i like how "How do indoor Google Maps work?" does not say anything about how it works
12:03 jcamins drojf: in that case you're going to need your own client side code, I think.
12:02 drojf i haven't :D
12:02 drojf no it's not
12:02 libsysguy I've accepted it :p
12:02 libsysguy Google is inescapable
12:02 drojf but that is basically what i was thinking about, yes
12:01 drojf libsysguy: interesting, thanks. of course i would want that without the google part :D
12:01 libsysguy drojf: http://maps.google.com/help/maps/indoormaps/
12:00 drojf but i'd need a proper signal indoors
12:00 drojf leaflet.js is quite easy to handle. works for html5 geolocation at least
11:59 libsysguy or HTML5 location services
11:59 jcamins Right, I think you'd have to provide a client application for the smartphone.
11:59 drojf i was thinking of something like a smartphone as a client
11:57 jcamins drojf: I'd think you'd also need to provide some sort of GPS client.
11:57 drojf that is probably a weird question, but geolocation services are usually either "real" gps or using wifi ssids to get a location, right? would it be possible to install whatever hardware locally to have a working geolocation service within a library? (and by "whatever hardware" i mean preferably not a satellite)
11:08 magnuse ouch
10:56 kf so def a problem
10:56 kf magnuse: poedit complains if you remove one of the %%
10:38 * kf had more at 8.... and it was not a good sign
10:36 drojf ouch
10:35 jcamins Eww. That's not a good sign for 6:30am.
10:35 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is 19.4Â°C (6:20 AM EDT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 18.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
10:35 jcamins @wunder 11375
10:35 kf *hmpf*
10:31 drojf s/not/now
10:31 drojf the good thing is, i'm not at the air conditioned library :)
10:31 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 29.6Â°C (12:30 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
10:31 kf @wunder Konstanz
10:31 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 26.5Â°C (12:13 PM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
10:31 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:31 drojf hi #koha
10:21 jcamins The fact that EFF is recommending to disable referer.
10:21 kf and aren't you awake too early?
10:21 kf hm?
10:13 jcamins wizzyrea: ugh.
09:41 dcook Home time!
08:16 magnuse ah, got it
08:13 kf ok, i am not making sense :P
08:13 kf when you have the browser result list thing and open it up to show that browse option, that's the tooltip on the arrows/pages I think
08:13 magnuse next/previous links on search results?
08:12 kf I just made it translatable
08:12 kf i didn't correct it
08:12 rangi what?
08:12 kf that's from the browser thing on the detail page
08:12 magnuse "Click to *rewind* the list to" - what does that mean?
08:09 * magnuse wonders what :Ãœ looks like... someone spitting?
08:06 kf :P even
08:06 kf :Ãœ
08:05 magnuse yeah, that helps a lot! ;-)
08:05 * kf sighs
08:05 kf magnuse: if it helps... i probably didn't even notice and translated it wrong
08:05 magnuse :-)
08:04 cjh go magnuse go!
07:57 magnuse gah, precious little time for translating now, let alone testing stuff... :-(
07:57 kf probably you need to rewrite the template to make it not show up in po files
07:56 kf it might not work, but you can try it
07:56 kf pootle thinks it needs to escape it, but we don't want it to
07:56 magnuse anyone know what to do? remove the extra %?
07:56 kf same problem as with \ maybe?
07:55 rangi yes
07:54 kf but in that case it's probably problematic
07:54 kf hm i think %% is how pootle escapes %
07:50 * dcook is inclined to think the same thing
07:50 rangi thats just broken
07:50 rangi no
07:48 magnuse s/would/might/
07:47 magnuse (i asked that earlier but you were away and it seems like the kind of thing you would know)
07:47 magnuse kf: are tt things that show up in translations supposed to have double %'s? like so: %s [%% UNLESS hidden.defined('branchcode') %%]
07:47 magnuse hiya kf
07:44 kf hi #koha
07:20 dcook Search.pm isn't THAT bad!
07:20 dcook I read that as "oh I thought jcamins was talking about hanging himself off...earlier"
07:20 drojf finally. see you later #koha
07:19 drojf does Â»sorry, but it took so long to unmount my music playerÂ« sound like a valid excuse to be late to a meeting?
07:10 wizzyrea oh I thought jcamins was talking about hanging something off of referers earlier
07:09 gaetan_B hello
07:04 christophe_c hello #koha
06:58 dcook :p
06:58 dcook wizzyrea: I was wondering why you were :(ing the eff
06:57 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad Airport, Pakistan is 32.0Â°C (11:00 AM PKT on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 14.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000 hPa.
06:57 Oak @wunder islamabad
06:56 magnuse hm, are tt things that show up in translations supposed to have double %'s? like so: %s [%% UNLESS hidden.defined('branchcode') %%]
06:51 drojf ah right, it's an extension. prefbar.
06:50 drojf a checkbox really. not sure how i got that though. i had it like forever. next to those to turn off cookies, flash, javascript, javaâ€¦
06:49 drojf you have to go into about:config to turn off referers? i got a button for that
06:48 drojf i'd like them to not let me enter my office for security reasons ;)
06:47 wizzyrea :( about the police state.
06:47 wizzyrea :(
06:46 wizzyrea eff is recommending people turn off referers
06:46 drojf â€¦because obama arrives tonight
06:46 wizzyrea https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/4-simple-changes-protect-your-privacy-online
06:46 drojf i bet people in berlin's center are very happy about police having confiscated their balkonies and force them to keep windows shut
06:45 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 26.0Â°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 18.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
06:45 drojf i wonder what the police state will look like today.
06:45 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:45 magnuse nope, i just don't like it when it's too hot
06:45 dcook You are a trooper, magnuse
06:44 dcook 10 degrees perfect?
06:44 drojf :)
06:43 magnuse drojf: nah, perfect :-)
06:42 drojf magnuse: hot in bodÃ¸? :)
06:41 * cait instantly wants to omve to norway
06:40 * magnuse waves
06:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 10.0Â°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 6.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
06:39 magnuse @wunder boo
06:39 cait bbl :)
06:39 cait :P
06:39 * cait never had one so doesn't miss it
06:36 wahanui what's up, reiveune
06:36 reiveune hello
06:36 * cjh also misses having a dryer
06:34 dcook And I'm skeptical of the dryers that don't vent outdoors...
06:34 dcook Also, we don't really have any way of venting the thing
06:34 dcook Yeah, we're cheap too, hehe
06:32 wizzyrea we could have one, we're just cheap.
06:31 * wizzyrea too
06:30 * dcook misses having a tumble dryer
06:30 dcook Hmm, looks like I'm drying my clothes inside today...
06:30 * dcook checks the weather
06:30 dcook Oh?
06:29 wizzyrea pleasant, really. but gonna be ugly later this week
06:29 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0Â°C (6:00 PM NZST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Falling).
06:29 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
06:28 cait wish i could work from home
06:28 cait yeah too hot for me
06:28 cait heh
06:20 * drojf heads to the shower
06:20 drojf lol
06:19 * dcook actually lived maybe 300m from his high school...
06:19 dcook But we used to walk through blizzards to school! Up hills! Both ways!
06:18 dcook I think I might have had high speed internet in my teen years...
06:18 dcook Actually...
06:18 dcook I kept thinking, "When I was a kid, we didn't have mobile phones and we had to dial up for our internet!"
06:18 dcook There were some young teenagers talking about Instagram on the bus last night
06:17 dcook hehe
06:17 * drojf talks like a grampa :D
06:15 drojf s/rif/rid
06:15 drojf cait: 30Â°@9am. does that mean hitzefrei or did they get rif of that? i remember when i was young we didn't have school when it was 27 or higher at 10am
06:14 dcook Ouch. That is pretty warm..
06:13 dcook You can only take off so many things in the summer
06:13 dcook Growing up in sub-arctic Canada, my closest friends always made the point that you can put on clothes and blankets in the winter
06:13 drojf 35Â°C for konstanz. ouch
06:12 dcook I'm still debating whether I like "too hot" more than "too cold"
06:12 dcook That's a bit toasty
06:12 drojf it's supposed to be 28Â° later today. that is more than i need
06:12 dcook It was cloudy. I think it only rained a little bit though.
06:11 drojf that certainly was chilly, and probably wet
06:11 dcook Mind you, I think it was...October
06:11 * dcook remembers having a distinctly chilly experience last time he was in Berlin
06:11 drojf it is warm for berlin. you live in the south ;)
06:10 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0Â°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
06:10 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:10 cait drojf: you think that is warm?
06:10 drojf unfortunately i miss most of it sitting at work or in the library
06:10 drojf at 8am
06:10 drojf that is pretty warm for my area ;)
06:09 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 19.5Â°C (7:43 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 11.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
06:09 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
06:09 * dcook used to hate when people said that to him...but usually "cold enough for you" with -40 to -60 degree temperatures
06:08 dcook Wait...the expression is "hot enough for you?"
06:08 dcook Enjoying the heat?
06:08 drojf hi dcook
06:08 dcook hey ya drojf
06:05 drojf good morning #koha
06:04 dcook I wouldn't mind a few more degrees ;)
06:03 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 16.0Â°C (3:30 PM EST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 9.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
06:03 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
06:02 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.6Â°C (8:00 AM CEST on June 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 19.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
06:02 cait @wunder Konstanz
05:28 cait hi dcook :)
05:26 dcook hey ya cait :)
05:20 dcook 7,118 emails O_O
05:13 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha.
04:51 * dcook wonders how many other people think they have registrations at the hotel...
04:50 dcook Well, maybe not ever...
04:50 dcook Worst error handling ever..
04:49 dcook Grrr...it appears that the Kohacon hotel registration page didn't work
02:45 dcook Hmm, looks like they have a bug on their booking form as well..
02:37 eythian I dislike it when things require a state at all.
02:34 dcook Hmm, they really don't like states with more than 2 letter abbreviations...that's...cool
02:33 * dcook tries to remember the proper spelling of his street...
02:33 dcook Ahhh. Booking hotel roomssss!
02:32 eythian someone should rewrite it.
02:32 jcamins Wow. Our search API is absurd.
02:31 jcamins Oh, yes I do.
02:27 jcamins Wait... I don't need that.
02:26 jcamins Thanks.
02:25 wizzyrea kek
02:25 rangi 4d reads them yesterday
02:25 eythian well, partially, anyway
02:25 eythian that, however, is 3D
02:25 wizzyrea just that the confusion exists.
02:25 eythian > Unlike 1D and 2D barcodes, the bars in a 3D barcode are read by a scanner that reads the differences in the height of each line.
02:25 wizzyrea I didn't say they were right!
02:24 eythian wizzyrea: that's totally wrong and by people who don't know anything.
02:24 eythian jcamins: %
02:24 wizzyrea there does seem to be some expectation that 3D = QR code
02:24 dcook Carefully?
02:24 jcamins How do you do remainder division in Perl?
02:23 wizzyrea we have printers for that now
02:23 dcook thanks messages too
02:23 eythian if they're 3D they'd have to be in a cube, and would be hard to scan.
02:23 * dcook likes Galen's thansk messages on patches
02:23 wizzyrea or other way around
02:23 eythian and that'll be why
02:23 wizzyrea apparently there is some marketing around 2D barcodes that are actually 3D
02:23 eythian > A Microsoft Tag is essentially a machine readable web link, analogous to a URL shortening link: when read, the Tag application sends the HCCB data to a Microsoft server, which then returns the publisher's intended URL. The
02:22 wizzyrea snerk
02:22 eythian I see the high-capacity colour ones around. I think microsoft pushes them. As a result, nothing can read them and no one recognises them.
02:19 dcook wikipedia ftw
02:19 wizzyrea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcode#Example_images ok this is properly helpful
02:19 eythian qr codes in '94.
02:18 eythian Also, barcodes came about in 1974, not 1988
02:18 wizzyrea must be marketing
02:18 wizzyrea then I am not sure why people sell scanners for them
02:17 wizzyrea with my eyes, anyway
02:17 eythian there's no such thing as 3D barcodes.
02:17 wizzyrea but I can't tell the difference between examples of 2d and 3d
02:17 eythian yeah
02:17 wizzyrea it was my impression that 1d was the usual ones
02:17 eythian QR codes aren't 3D, and regular ones aren't 2D
02:17 eythian that barcode article is wrong
02:15 wizzyrea snerk
02:15 eythian http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/winter-is-coming-warns-jim-hickey/
02:15 wizzyrea http://www.qrscanner.us/3d-barcodes-2d-barcodes.html < because I had a curious.
02:13 wizzyrea probably not
02:12 eythian I don't think 2D barcodes can scan nearly so easily with a laser bar.
02:10 wizzyrea http://www.barcodesinc.com/symbol/part-motds3578-ubk0005r.htm?green=8511FEFA-759F-5B77-99AD-AAD04D3C727B
02:09 jcamins Oh.
02:09 wizzyrea that seems less useful.
02:09 wizzyrea "does not read 2d barcodes"
02:08 jcamins wizzyrea: http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1268/Barcode-Equipment/Symbol-LS-3578FZ-Industrial-Cordless-Scanner
02:05 eythian that seems like a lot
02:04 wizzyrea oh there's actually one that's more dear than that - 976.50 for a symbol something
02:04 jcamins And I think the referer will do.
02:04 jcamins eythian: I hate to mess up URLs any further.
02:03 wizzyrea http://www.barcodesinc.com/motorola/part-ds6878-prbu0100awr.htm < not so cheap
02:03 wizzyrea http://www.barcodesinc.com/socket/part-soc2870-2559.htm < cheaper
02:02 wizzyrea anywhere between cheap and not cheap.
02:02 eythian and it won't break between tabs
02:02 eythian so you can have multiple search paths in the session at one time
02:02 eythian jcamins: store it in the session keyed to a value in the URL
02:02 mtompset Depends on the country, wizzyrea. ;)
02:02 * wizzyrea looks up how much a bluetooth scanner costs
02:01 jcamins mtompset: yes, so if you start a new session, it's reset.
02:01 mtompset Why would it get reset? If it has been YAMLized into the sessions DB, it will stay for the duration of the session.
02:00 jcamins I mean, if I stored it in the session, it'd get reset anyway.
02:00 rangi sweet
02:00 jcamins But I think that's a limitation people can learn to live with.
01:58 jcamins Yeah, referer is set to the current page.
01:56 rangi :)
01:56 rangi there too
01:56 * jcamins will try.
01:56 jcamins Got it.
01:56 rangi and see if the referer is ok :)
01:56 rangi hit the url
01:56 rangi log out
01:55 rangi ie do a search, grab the url
01:55 rangi it might do the same their
01:55 rangi true
01:55 jcamins Well, this is the staff client, so that's less of an issue for me.
01:54 rangi im not sure about that, but something to test
01:54 jcamins Hmm.
01:54 rangi as its a post
01:53 rangi referer i think is messed up at that point
01:53 rangi they get to the login page
01:53 rangi someone hits a search url
01:53 rangi the opac is not in public mode
01:53 rangi one edge case
01:51 jcamins The way we do searching in Koha, short of replacing C4::Search entirely, it looks like the only way to do multiple search-friendly paging is to use the referer.
01:48 eythian But basically, quite uncommon corner cases.
01:47 eythian Also some people install plugins that supress the referrer information.
01:47 eythian I've seen it happen.
01:47 jcamins Weirdo proxies? Bah.
01:47 jcamins We already say not to use old versions of IE with the staff client.
01:47 eythian weirdo proxies
01:46 jcamins I'm okay with that.
01:46 rangi sometimes
01:46 jcamins Of course.
01:46 rangi IE
01:45 jcamins Does anyone know when $query->referer() won't work?
01:28 rangi apropos of nothing :)
01:26 rangi i used xml::dumper for my exporting of star ratings
01:25 eythian ah right
01:25 jcamins eythian: I need the result number to be passed to the XSLT.
01:23 eythian ?
01:23 eythian jcamins: what are you doing that needs this>
01:21 mtompset My thoughts exactly, if you already can cop out with the way you said.
01:21 jcamins mtompset: I'd prefer not to add any additional dependencies.
01:18 mtompset jcamins: http://search.cpan.org/~josephw/XML-Writer-0.623/Writer.pm seems simpler, but I don't know how useful that might be.
01:18 rangi sweet
01:16 eythian (an android library for interfacing with bluetooth barcode scanners)
01:16 eythian https://github.com/nomad-labs/OjaiClient <-- rangi and maybe others
01:09 jcamins Result number.
01:09 dcook Such as?
01:09 jcamins Yep.
01:08 dcook Meta-metadata, eh?
01:08 jcamins Adding meta-metadata to search results.
01:07 dcook What are you using it for?
01:06 jcamins I decided to just use "<$elem>" . $meta->{$key} . "</$elem>"
01:05 jcamins Well, that's the harder thing.
01:02 dcook Seems like there are lots of examples going the other way around
01:00 jcamins Yeah.
00:57 dcook ? http://phaq.phunsites.net/2012/01/09/convert-a-perl-hash-of-hashes-into-xml-with-xmldumper/
00:57 jcamins I think I'll go with an easier option.
00:57 jcamins dcook: apparently it's complicated.
00:57 dcook jcamins: Nope, but that would be a good thing to know, I imagine
00:46 jcamins Does anyone know how to serialize a Perl data structure with LibXML?
00:14 dcook IE--
00:04 mtompset But this code issue... is one of those silent log filling kind. YAY! another beast to have been slain. ;)