Time Nick Message 00:00 eythian dcook: some of us already do 00:00 dcook Eeep! 00:00 dcook Maybe it's a good thing that I'm over in Oz 00:00 dcook I've watched far too much Highlander for this to end well :p 00:02 dcook Ohhh...there are hidden inputs but they don't seem to have values... 00:02 bag HA yes yes you can carry a sword - but you've got to use it :) 00:02 bag in smart ways that is 00:02 dcook That's how jcamins could've opened that coconut a while ago 00:02 dcook Katana > hammer 00:03 bag I had dinner with BobB and Irma last night - it was awesome 00:03 bag they are good peeps - good peeps 00:03 dcook I had forgotten that they were going to be in the US.. 00:03 dcook Glad to hear it :) 00:03 dcook What'd you have? 00:03 bag they brought a nice book that was big for their kids - for our little Ginny 00:03 bag really cool book 00:04 bag I grilled a flank steak, made mash potatoes, and grilled up some summer squash 00:04 bag plus a farmers market salad 00:04 dcook Sounds lovely :) 00:05 bag it was good… except the ginny pie went to sleep before dinner :P … so she didn't get any steak 00:05 bag fly bye larryb'ing 00:37 dcook Rar.. 00:59 eythian http://youtu.be/yd6FLETYZ_c 01:02 cjh what am I listening to. 01:03 dcook My connection would only allow me a minute of it, but it was amusing.. 01:06 dcook Why cataloguing interface why... 01:16 dcook Hmm, papa isn't around, is he? 01:18 bag dcook: so I'm getting pianohacker as part of his summer internship to write a new cataloging interface 01:18 dcook bag++ 01:18 dcook pianohacker++ 01:18 bag more along the lines of the connexion but more of what people want 01:18 bag yeah it's more 01:18 bag pianohacker++ 01:18 dcook So what do people want? 01:19 bag all the names we have for it so far are lame - professional catalogers interface PCI - that's lame 01:19 jcamins Ponies. 01:19 bag we should call it light-rangi 01:19 bag :P 01:19 dcook jcamins: Unicorns? 01:19 jcamins dcook: right. 01:19 jcamins That's what I meant. 01:19 bag oh ponies or unicorns is good 01:19 dcook No reason a person can't have both 01:19 jcamins See, I live in an apartment in New York City, so a pony is impossible enough. 01:19 eythian dcook: doesn't seem to be 01:20 bag so when one checks an item in - onloan field for items is set to NULL? 01:20 dcook Hmm 01:20 bag yes that was a question 01:20 bag heh 01:21 dcook bag: Probably. I haven't looked at the circulation code in a while. 01:22 jcamins bag: it is supposed to be. However, there was a bug for a while (and possibly still is) that resulted in it not getting set to NULL properly. 01:26 bag I wish I had more peanut butter M&M's 01:27 bag ok thanks jcamins I was wondering 01:32 dcook I wish I had...pizza, hazelnut chocolate, a decent internet connection, and...blue skies :) 01:32 dcook Or all the time in the world 01:32 dcook Actually, I'd prefer all the time in the world 01:32 * jcamins has foccaccia. 01:33 dcook Mmm, that sounds even better 01:33 jcamins Coconut-cranberry balls. 01:33 dcook Well, not better than the time...but better than theo thers 01:33 dcook Hmm 01:33 jcamins I was expecting cookies, but that didn't quite happen. 01:33 dcook hehe 01:33 dcook I had a few too many cranberry cookies once upon a time 01:33 jcamins But they are delicious. 01:33 dcook My dad has/had a side business as a baker 01:33 dcook Too many cranberry cookies that weren't able to be sold... 01:34 dcook Damn, now I want chocolate chip cookies.. 01:34 jcamins I baked brownies the other day. 01:37 jcamins And I also made rosemary chocolate oat clusters. 01:37 jcamins Actually, that may have been a week ago, because it was very hot. 01:38 dcook Rosemary chocolate oat clusters? 01:38 dcook Those are four of my favourite words all together.. 01:38 jcamins So good! 01:38 dcook They sound so good! 01:38 jcamins http://dessert.food.com/recipe/no-bake-chocolate-oatmeal-cookies-23821 01:39 jcamins Like those, only steep rosemary in the milk first. 01:39 jcamins Actually, I use powdered milk for that kind of thing. Don't have to worry about scalding it. 01:49 dcook Quick question...how do folks print out debugging info? 01:49 dcook Data::Dumper or another easier way? 01:50 dcook jcamins: I might have to make those this weekend... 01:50 jcamins Data::Dumper. 01:50 eythian dcook: quick and dirty, ususally D::D 01:50 dcook Cool beans. Merci :) 01:51 dcook Oh...I have an idea.. 01:56 dcook Didn't need to print anything. Went with a hunch, and me thinks it was a good one. 01:58 dcook The original bug was that changing the framework while duplicating a record caused all the MARC fields to be cleared 01:58 dcook Fixed that...but if you made changes and changed the framework, your changes got nixed 01:59 dcook Added in an input to say that the framework had been changed, and it used the posted changed data rather than the data from the database :) 01:59 dcook Perhaps a minor win but I think a win nonetheless.. 02:14 dcook Apparently VirtualBox eventually downloaded...O_o 02:26 dcook eythian: Would it still be MTU related if it was just incredibly slow? 02:27 eythian not typically 02:27 eythian try running mtr on the host that's slow, maybe you've got serious packet loss somewhere. 02:27 dcook mtr? 02:27 dcook Mm, that's a command? 02:27 eythian yes 02:28 eythian and by 'on' I really mean 'against' 02:28 eythian it's stort of like traceroute. 02:28 eythian -t 02:28 dcook Apparently I don't have it installed :/ 02:28 eythian you'll need to install it, yes 02:29 dcook Thwarted once again by not having root access 02:29 eythian ah 02:29 dcook We switched the desktops over to a slower internet connection recently, but this is rather brutal... 02:29 eythian you probably have traceroute or tracepath or something, they may help get an idea 02:30 jcamins dcook: you should get root on your VM. It's very helpful for development. 02:31 dcook jcamins: Precisely my thought as well. Hence why I downloaded Virtualbox. 02:31 eythian or just break root on your workstation. Not having it is a bit silly. 02:31 dcook But...if I can't download anything...then I can't really set up a decent VM 02:31 dcook Unless I just take an image of what I have at home and bring it in 02:31 jcamins dcook: oh, I thought you were upgrading. 02:31 dcook eythian: I agree about the silliness. 02:31 jcamins dcook: but bringing in the image might be a good idea. 02:32 dcook Yeah, I have an actual Debian server at home, but I could make an image of it, then load it up into VirtualBox here 02:32 eythian dcook: just drop into the bootload, change the kernel command line to be 'init=/usr/bin/bash' and you have a root shell you can use to add yourself to sudoers. 02:33 dcook Or maybe even use the current Debian VM I have on my netbook...although it probably needs to be updated 02:33 eythian Anyone have any idea why relevance sorting would tend to just sort by biblionumber? 02:34 jcamins eythian: yeah, relevance sorting doesn't work. 02:34 cjh heh 02:34 eythian that's not ideal. 02:34 eythian any way to make it work? 02:34 dcook I always suspected that it didn't work.. 02:35 jcamins Convince some to pay for it? 02:35 jcamins *someone 02:36 mtompset I use VirtualBox on Windows for my development. :) 02:36 * dcook likes eythian's craftiness and jcamins good sense 02:36 dcook Yeah, mtompset, that's what I've been thinking recently. 02:37 mtompset I think the idea of bringing in the image makes complete sense, because a 3 hour setup time just plain sucks. 02:37 dcook At the moment, I ssh into a dev server, but I may as well just have my own dev VM 02:37 mtompset I have a really nice desktop at home, but when I go into the office, I use my netbook that I was using in the Philippines. 02:37 mtompset O THE PAIN! 02:37 dcook You develop on a netbook? 02:38 mtompset Yes. Yes, I have. 02:38 dcook I have a VM on my little Asus eeePC, but that was mostly so I could do something productive when I was sitting in my uni classes :p 02:38 dcook How big is the screen/keyboard? 02:38 mtompset I have an Asus 1015PEM? I think. 02:39 mtompset When I go into the office, I plug in a monitor and keyboard. 02:39 mtompset So, I don't feel constrained that way. 02:39 eythian jcamins: what is it about it that doesn't work? 02:40 mtompset And it works pretty well... just don't expect to set up a VM quickly. 02:40 mtompset What makes me cry is I can set up the same thing on my desktop in less than 20 minutes. 02:40 dcook Yeah, it took me hours to set up that Debian VM the first time on my netbook 02:40 dcook Mind you, that was also my first time ever installing Linux :p 02:40 dcook "*Complimentary one-year trial of ASUS WebStorage." 02:41 dcook Being complimented for a year could be nice... 02:42 mtompset I didn't use it. I still don't trust cloud computing. :P 02:42 eythian mtompset: been playing with git-annex assistant recently. It's quite neat. 02:42 eythian does that sort of thing, except you have control over how and where your data goes. 02:42 jcamins eythian: the criteria do not make sense, the query is built only vaguely correctly, and anything more complicated than a one-word keyword search isn't handled anyway. 02:43 eythian In this case, it's not even trying. It's sorting strictly by biblionumber. 02:44 eythian I'm sure it used to do something sorta sensible. 02:44 dcook This traceroute stuff is wild 02:44 dcook Apparently I go through Hong Kong to get to koha-community.org... 02:44 wizzyrea where else would you go through? Africa? 02:44 eythian which URL of koha-community.org specifically? 02:45 dcook wizzyrea: I was thinking the US 02:45 eythian because it's hosted in different places depending on what server you hit 02:45 dcook www.koha-community.org 02:45 wahanui www.koha-community.org is back, thanks to wizzyrea_away and her super effort 02:45 dcook li190-89.members.linode.com 02:45 * wizzyrea notes that koha-community.org is in London 02:45 eythian that's hosted in the UK 02:45 dcook Yep 02:45 * mtompset grumbles. 02:45 eythian so it makes sense it'd go through asia, that's shorter. 02:45 wizzyrea hong kong is a lot closer than the US :P 02:46 mtompset Cursed encryption isn't decrypting properly. 02:46 dcook With all that PRISM stuff, I was reading that a route isn't always the shortest 02:46 wizzyrea not if you're in the US ::P 02:46 mtompset What sort of encryption garbles the first few bytes and gets the rest correct?! 02:46 wizzyrea the cursed kind? 02:46 eythian mtompset: that would be unexpected. 02:47 dcook So it goes Australia -> Hong Kong -> London 02:47 eythian http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/11/27/a-little-bit-about-relevance-in-koha/ <-- this contradicts you a little bit, jcamins. and I'm sure it's done more than sort by biblionumber. 02:48 jcamins eythian: I was simplifying because I don't give a rats ass, but I was summarizing what it has done since 3.4. 02:48 mtompset It is... in my PHP, I JSON, encrypted, and the Bin2Hex. In my perl I unpack, decrypt, and de-JSON... But the decrypt isn't matching, even though the PHP hexified string matches the hexified string received in Perl. 02:49 jcamins *rat's 02:59 eythian wahanui: relevance ranking is broken by QueryAutoTruncate 02:59 wahanui OK, eythian. 02:59 mtompset Finally tweaked in into working. YAY! 03:01 dcook Hmm, scathing comment on the blog 03:02 eythian I need to learn how zebra works in more detail at some stage. It's still a bit too foreign to me. 03:03 dcook eythian++ 03:03 dcook Hard without a project though, eh? 03:04 eythian that and time, yeah 03:04 dcook If only we had all zee time 03:06 dcook Interesting how Libranto appears in IRC once in 2011 and then pops up to post on ByWater's blog in 2013 03:07 dcook I wonder how many people are out there using (or secretly hating) on Koha without any of us being the wiser 03:08 eythian heh, so the default (non-package) init script for zebrasrv fails on a restart if it wasn't already running. That's a bit dumb. 03:09 eythian (mine you, the init script I have here is very old, so it's possibly fixed now.) 03:11 * dcook thinks the rain should stop and the sun should come out so his clothes dry... 03:11 dcook eythian: That does sound dumb :/ 03:12 trea o/ 03:13 cjh o/*\o 03:13 trea what would cause search results to differ between staff and opac searches? aside from opacsupression, which isn't enabled in this case. 03:15 dcook default sorting would make it look different 03:15 * dcook tries to remember if there are different preferences for the opac and staff client.. 03:15 trea i'm getting results in the staff client, but not in the opac 03:16 dcook Huh.. 03:16 dcook Yeah, opacsuppression was the culprit last time that happened to me 03:16 trea that is, i'm only seeing a few items in the opac with the same criterion 03:16 trea when there should be hundreds 03:17 trea nothing of consequence in the opacuserjs that would cause this that i can see 03:17 dcook I've never used Pazpar2 but maybe something with that? 03:17 trea yeah, not sure that applies in this case 03:18 dcook Certainly interesting. I'm not sure what it could be. Maybe put in some debugging code to see what is being sent to Zebra in both cases? 03:19 dcook And/or what's received 03:19 dcook So you can see if it's an issue with the search query or with Koha displaying the results. 03:19 trea right. certainly a good point 03:30 mtompset Libranto? 03:32 mtompset eythian: Ubuntu fails to restart the zebra daemon correctly. I installed sys-rc-conf? (I think that's the name), and made sure that 2,3,4,5 were checked. It started up on reboot after that. 03:33 mtompset And I recall a Debian friend of my complaining about Ubuntu people fixing things in Debian, when in reality they were breaking it -- because he had fixed it before. 03:34 eythian It definitly configures itself for levels 2,3,4,5 in Debian. I'd expect that to work in Ubuntu, but I haven't tried that for a little while. 03:34 eythian Which Ubuntu version? 03:34 mtompset 12.04 03:35 mtompset init.d scripts are partly busted I think. :( 03:35 eythian howso? 03:35 eythian I know it's moving to upstart, but that shouldn't really break anything. 03:36 mtompset Can't tell you, because I just fought it till it worked. :) 03:37 eythian It's worth noting that no one else has mentioned it, so it might not be the packages :) 03:39 eythian though, I'm not convinced that the init scripts should be starting up at position 01 in the process. I wonder if there are situations where that would cause issues. 03:40 eythian you don't happen to have /var on it's own filesystem do you? 03:40 mtompset Not on my local VMs. 03:40 mtompset Not sure about the QA/production sites. 03:41 mtompset I think I'll try to fix my log out before going to bed. 03:49 dcook [off] Bureaucracy is fun 03:51 eythian hi cait 03:51 * dcook waves to cait 03:51 wizzyrea cait is up early 03:52 mtompset Wheeee! log out fixed. :) 03:54 mtompset Greetings, cait. 03:55 cjh cait: \o 03:55 eythian cait: go back to bed! 03:58 dcook 5:58am... 03:58 * dcook blinks 03:59 dcook You should've seen me at 7:30 this morning 03:59 dcook I think I was making a blanket fort... 04:03 cait heh 04:07 cait sounds tempting 04:07 dcook It was pretty awesome ^_^ 04:07 dcook Alas, I had to get up eventually 04:08 dcook I admire your...stalwart ability to get up early ;) 04:14 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. 04:18 * Oak waves 04:42 dcook [off] Microbrew or die... http://vimeo.com/44344504 04:46 dcook Are we talking about the 1990s? 04:46 dcook No, the 1890s. 04:47 cjh have to go see portland. 04:48 cjh TIL 1890 is like 1920 but with more hats and tattoos. 04:50 dcook hehe 04:50 dcook Yeah, I really want to go to Portland sometime. 04:50 dcook I meant to go a couple times with some different people but it never materialized. 04:50 dcook I suppose I could go when I'm in Vancouver post-Kohacon... 04:51 dcook Google says it's only a 5 hour 14 minute car trip... 04:51 dcook 9 hours 20 minutes from Reno 04:51 dcook Perhaps not practical for a day trip :p 04:53 wizzyrea heh the US is huuge. 04:54 cjh dcook: could be a good jog 04:57 dcook I was planning to get new runners anyway... 04:57 dcook wizzyrea: So bigggg 04:57 dcook Like Canada 04:57 dcook Montreal and Vancouver really need a lightspeed tunnel or teleporters... 04:57 dcook Connecting each other (and Sydney) 04:58 dcook (Sydney, Australia...not Sydney, Nova Scotia...) 04:58 dcook (No offense to Sydney, Nova Scotia...) 04:58 dcook Offence? 04:58 cjh one of them. 04:58 wahanui rumour has it one of them is bound to have a good idea ;) 04:59 dcook Apparently offence outside the US 04:59 dcook Oh English... 04:59 wahanui it has been said that english is spoken @ BibLibre :) 04:59 wizzyrea of fence 04:59 wizzyrea offense 04:59 dcook There's a difference between practise and practice but not offense and offence... 04:59 cjh offence 04:59 wizzyrea c/s z/c 04:59 cjh of fense 04:59 cjh wizzyrea: you dun goofed. 05:00 wizzyrea offense is like, what you do in american football 05:00 cjh I hate english, practise/practise, affect/effect, to/two/too.... 05:00 wizzyrea practise/practise? 05:00 wizzyrea LOL 05:00 cjh lol 05:00 cjh wizzyrea: almost as bad as your slip up :p 05:00 cjh it is 5pm, that is too late to be typing in public. 05:01 druthb it is 00:01 here. Much too late. 05:02 dcook 3:02pm...almost too late 05:02 cjh druthb: do you guys have 'sleep' in your country? 05:03 mtj cjh, choose/chose is another silly one 05:03 druthb I don't know about the *guys* in my country. This girl has sleep, yes, but lately, it's been...troubled, and irregular. 05:04 cjh druthb: inclusive pronoun I promise, and sorry to hear that :( 05:04 druthb :P 05:04 dcook Boo troubled sleep :( 05:04 druthb Just poking you, cjh. I had an unintended 3-hour nap after I got off work...fell asleep in the recliner with a fuzzy cat on my lap. 05:05 druthb wizzyrea: Did you hear that Pixel and I will be going it alone soon? 05:06 druthb Lindsey is apartment-hunting in Dallas; she will be taking Captain Midnight with her. 05:07 druthb There's just a lot on my mind lately--about to be an empty-nester, among other upheavals in my life lately. 05:08 bag why's she moving up that way? 05:09 druthb She's ready to bust out on her own; she'll be moving in with her younger sis Libby, and Lib's boyfriend. 05:09 bag ah that's why dallas 05:09 bag :) 05:09 druthb yah. 05:09 bag hey druthb do you have some time when you are at work tomorrow to chat? 05:10 druthb Tomorrow is going to be moderately busy--a preso to do for a lunch-and-learn, and a meeting later in the afternoon, but I'll be around some. 05:10 bag cool give me a ping when you've got about 5 minutes 05:10 bag thanks :D 05:10 druthb okie. 05:10 druthb The preso will be about...hm..9 am, your time, and the meeting is at 3, your time. Late day, for me. 05:11 druthb Probably between the two. 05:11 bag :) 05:38 cait bbl 05:38 cait well..t onight :) 05:38 dcook ta cait\ 05:41 dcook bbiab 05:47 drojf good morning #koha 06:05 druthb good morning, drojf 06:06 drojf hi druthb 06:08 * druthb heads for bed. Be well, all. 06:10 drojf good night druthb_away 06:13 christophe_c hello #koha 06:27 reiveune hello 06:28 dac hey ya reiveune 06:32 reiveune salut dcook 07:05 * dcook has missed working on Koha... 07:05 * dcook waves to Biblibre folks :) 07:05 * magnuse waves 07:06 dcook hey ya magnuse :) 07:06 magnuse hiya dcook 07:11 gaetan_B hello 07:11 dcook hey ya gaetan_B :) 07:15 dcook Time for me to call it a night 08:21 rangi evening 08:22 cjh evening :) 08:30 AmitG heya mtj 08:30 AmitG Papa around? 10:31 rangi self check? 10:31 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DJ2xyD0wU4 11:42 jwagner morning 11:42 libsysguy morning jwagner 12:27 oleonard Hi #koha 12:48 marcelr hi #koha 12:49 * oleonard 's power is about to go out... 12:49 marcelr hi oleonard 12:52 jcamins oleonard: again? 12:52 oleonard "temporary emergency outage" announced earlier. 12:53 Dyrcona oleonard: Where do you live? 12:53 jcamins I suppose that's one way to balance a budget... 12:53 Dyrcona heh. 12:53 oleonard Southeast Ohio 12:54 Dyrcona Just aksing 'cause you seem to have a lot of these emergency power outages. 12:55 oleonard Really not so many. 12:55 Dyrcona More than you should have, which is 0. 12:55 * oleonard hears the UPS's complaints increase their pace 13:03 marcelr bug 9788 13:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber 13:33 marcelr just testing: marcel marcelr test ignore 13:33 marcelr hmm 13:33 marcelr agressive notify? 13:33 jcamins marcelr: would you like someone else to highlight you? 13:34 marcelr that worked btw 13:34 marcelr changing prefs in chatzilla :) 13:34 jcamins Yay! 13:39 tcohen marcelr marcelr 13:39 marcelr beep worked :) 13:44 drojf beep? 13:44 drojf good luck with that 13:44 drojf marcelr 13:44 marcelr hi drojf; can always disable it again.. 13:45 drojf you will. soon. :P 13:45 marcelr barely hear it btw 13:45 * jcamins starts chanting "marcelr." 13:45 marcelr so should be little bit awake 13:45 drojf maybe we can teach wahanui to reply to something with a sequence of mentions that plays a song ;) 13:46 marcelr wahanui: where are you? 13:46 wahanui i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. 13:48 marcelr kf is not here today 13:48 marcelr just found a nice german word 13:49 marcelr drojf: Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz 13:49 jcamins Gesundheit! 13:50 samueld hi everybody 13:50 marcelr hello samueld 13:50 marcelr just saw your logfiles :) 13:51 samueld hi marcel 13:51 samueld yes, it makes me crazy, i don't find the solution 14:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10406: memove div and more obsolete CSS related to YUI autocomplete <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d9d5581ab7bb458dcca3dcb19c7f5929fa7ea50> 14:41 marcelr memove? 14:43 tcohen the patch author must be some latino with typing problems or smth 14:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 9370: improve splitting of LC call numbers for labels <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=edb8bddff074769a95744b6a7fa59eff61e0cfc1> / bug 9370: add invalid call number to LC splitting test cases <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5e9e15663289489e0baafff73d7bed20434b8ec> / bug 9370: test case for splitting LC call number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= 14:55 marcelr gmcharlt: what is actually the status of 7167? 14:56 marcelr (apart from does not apply anymore :) 14:56 marcelr oops 14:56 gmcharlt marcelr: being sat upon, at the moment -- it is a huge patch which I haven't reviewed in detail yet 14:56 marcelr ok; still have my doubts though 14:57 gmcharlt I've long had reservations about it too 14:58 gmcharlt basically because while the updatedatabase.pl mechanism has been a source of pain for developers and testers, it seems to be nearly worry-free for users 14:59 marcelr it just seems to be a little too complicated for a dev passing by.. 15:01 gmcharlt marcelr: from my POV, it might suffice to simply say (as a matter of policy) that the RM will take resopnsibility for integrating schema changes 15:01 gmcharlt i.e., that no patch would get rejected simply because of a merge conflict in updatedatabase.pl 15:01 marcelr that is clear 15:02 marcelr but maybe we are not talking about the same 15:05 gmcharlt yeah -- my starting point is that I think there are policy changes we can make (or state more clearly) that would obviate the need for such a drastic change to the schema update process 15:08 marcelr have to go now, bye #koha 15:15 reiveune bye 15:20 jcamins drojf: Any idea what "DRUCK_ORT" stands for? "Printing [something]" I think. 15:20 jcamins Could it be place? 15:21 drojf yes it is. place or location 15:23 jcamins Interesting. 15:23 wahanui rumour has it interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 15:23 jcamins Apparently Czech cataloging has gone even further in the 151->152 shift and deleted 151 altogether. 15:25 drojf the what shift? 15:26 jcamins To hierarchical place names. 15:26 jcamins From non-hierarchical. 15:26 tcohen too much work + fernet during weekend + being 122 = dates mixup 15:26 drojf ah! i should take more marc history classes :) 15:30 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 15:31 tcohen hi mtompset 15:31 jcamins Though I find the redefinition of 752 as place of publication somewhat surprising. 15:31 mtompset Greetings, tcohen jcamins. 15:43 mtompset who redefined it, jcamins? 15:44 jcamins DNB, presumably. 15:45 mtompset DNB? 15:45 jcamins Or NKCR 15:46 mtompset Some business credit bureau or railway line? 15:48 libsysguy jcamins http://osrc.dfm.io/jcamins 15:49 gaetan_B bye ! 15:50 jcamins German and Czech national libraries 15:51 mtompset Okay, that was part of my other guess for DNB... but thank you for the clarification. :) 15:53 mtompset PHP, jcamins? I thought most people here disliked PHP. 15:55 mtompset That's a cool link, libsysguy. 15:55 jcamins libsysguy: interesting. 15:55 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 15:56 jcamins mtompset: I don't know about most people, but _I_ certainly dislike PHP. 15:56 mtompset If you dislike it, then why are you using it? 15:57 jcamins mtompset: variety in my misery? 15:57 libsysguy he lost a bet mtompset 15:58 mtompset I like libsysguy's explanation better. ;) 15:58 jcamins libsysguy: no, that's why you use emacs. :P 15:58 mtompset Ooooo.... burn! 15:58 mtompset Off to lunch... 15:59 libsysguy ouch 15:59 libsysguy I was tortured at a young age 15:59 libsysguy stockholm syndrom 16:03 * wizzyrea waves 16:04 jcamins Isn't it a wee bit early in NZ? 16:04 wizzyrea yep 16:12 gmcharlt @quote random 16:12 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #47: "pianohacker bah, go collision attack the front of a moving car" (added by brendan at 10:15 PM, November 16, 2009) 16:13 jcamins Heh. Very appropriate just seconds after a netsplit. 16:14 wizzyrea pianohacker: witty since forever. 16:15 pianohacker woohah, witty by proxy 16:27 tcohen wizzyrea: what time is it where you r? 16:28 wizzyrea 4:27am 16:30 bag HA I did add a quote as brendan YAY! 16:30 pianohacker wizzyrea: My goodness what are you doing awake? 16:31 wizzyrea I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep 16:31 wizzyrea :) 16:31 wizzyrea might as well do work 16:37 liw sometimes the very early hours of morning are an excellent time to get large amounts of work done: you're somewhat rested, you're not yet hungry, your mind is clear, and best of all, nobody else is awake to bother and distract you 16:39 wizzyrea it's better than lying in bed fretting about not being asleep :P 16:39 wizzyrea :) I meant 16:39 wizzyrea liw++ so true 16:48 druthb o/ 16:57 talljoy wizzyrea you are up early? or late? 16:57 talljoy hi druthb! 16:59 druthb Hi, talljoy! :) 16:59 talljoy how's houston? hot and muggy yet? 16:59 druthb very hot and muggy, yes 17:14 wizzyrea early 17:35 tcohen don't u have a ps3 wizzyrea? 17:36 wizzyrea hm not anymore 17:36 wizzyrea actually, currently we have 0 gaming consoles 17:37 wizzyrea does anyone know where you configure the network printing? 17:37 wizzyrea besides he-who-shall-not-be-named-for-fear-of-waking-him-up 17:37 tcohen http://localhost:641 17:38 tcohen s/4/3/ 17:38 wizzyrea well I meant in Koha - where you define the printers that it should use 17:38 wizzyrea if you are doing network printing 17:40 tcohen if you haven't found it, then it is an usability bug 17:40 jcamins wizzyrea: I think you apply the patch and it just works. It adds a network printer page in admin or tools. 17:41 jcamins Ah- if you're a superlibrarian. 17:42 jcamins (I think) 17:44 wizzyrea oh - I guess the restoration patch hasn't gotten in yet. 17:44 wizzyrea that restores all of that. 17:44 wizzyrea people keep removing it :( 17:46 jcamins wizzyrea: it's still the original restoration patch that is stalled, I think. 17:48 * cait waves 17:48 cait what patch are you talking about? 17:48 wizzyrea bug 8034 17:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8034 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Enable server print queue selection 17:49 jcamins I thought I signed off on that. 17:49 cait ah 17:49 cait hm 17:49 jcamins Possibly twice. 17:53 wizzyrea you did 17:53 * jcamins makes a mental note to go for a third time. 17:54 mtompset Third time's a charm. ;) 17:54 tcohen gmcharlt: have you successfully reproduced bug 10311 17:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10311 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Holds queue ignores item-level holds where only one items exists 17:54 tcohen ? 17:54 mtompset Greetings, cait wizzyrea. :) 17:55 wizzyrea tbh, if nekls saw it, it exists. 17:56 wizzyrea but I see thta wasn't a NEKLS one 18:13 tcohen khall around? 18:13 gmcharlt tcohen: yes, I did 18:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10432 - Display of enabled status on course list is not accessible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=39de7a8de855c61a50191c9b3fca5b6480e10f92> 18:14 tcohen thanks gmcharlt, i'll re-check then 18:14 tcohen couldn't fix the problem with the patch 18:14 tcohen (on 3.12) 18:23 tcohen gmcharlt: i should look for it here, right? http://koha-dev.biblioadmin/cgi-bin/koha/circ/view_holdsqueue.pl 18:24 wizzyrea tcohen - you see the problem? 18:24 tcohen i see the problem 18:24 wizzyrea or you don't see the problem? 18:24 wizzyrea but the patch doesn't fix it? 18:24 gmcharlt tcohen: yes, that's where to look 18:24 tcohen i don't see it fixed with the patch 18:24 gmcharlt tcohen: you are rerunning the holdsqueue cronjob, right? 18:25 tcohen misc/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl 18:25 wizzyrea ^ 18:27 tcohen any special pref to set? 18:28 wizzyrea what's the condition of the hold you have on? 18:28 gmcharlt tcohen: OPACItemHolds, natch 18:29 tcohen i placed the hold from the staff interface 18:29 tcohen on behalf of the user 18:30 wizzyrea it is item level? 18:31 tcohen it is 18:31 * wizzyrea has to "get up" soon 18:32 gmcharlt tcohen: priority > 0, found is null? 18:33 tcohen is zebra involved somehow? 18:33 tcohen (its off right now) 18:33 wizzyrea shouldn't be 18:34 gmcharlt ok 18:34 gmcharlt so without patch, you run the cronjob, the item-level hold doesn't display in the hold queue report 18:34 gmcharlt correct? 18:34 tcohen correct 18:34 gmcharlt and after applying the patch and running the cronjob, what do you see (or not see)? 18:35 tcohen http://snag.gy/J6St5.jpg 18:36 wizzyrea and the hold queue? 18:36 wahanui it has been said that the hold queue is fuckered enough as it is :P 18:36 wizzyrea too right. 18:36 tcohen http://snag.gy/791O4.jpg 18:36 wizzyrea item home library is midway? 18:38 tcohen http://snag.gy/zrCDg.jpg 18:38 tcohen it is wizzyrea 18:38 wizzyrea hm indeed 18:38 wizzyrea oh 18:38 wizzyrea it's checked out 18:38 wizzyrea it won't show on the hold queue if it's out 18:39 wizzyrea check it in and then try :) 18:39 wizzyrea i.e. it's not available to fill a hold right now 18:39 wizzyrea so it's not on the list 18:39 tcohen you're not that asleep wizzyrea 18:40 tcohen you tricked us 18:40 drnoe does anyone have any information to share on the configuration of indexes using DOM (as opposed to GRS-1): i.e. how to create new indexes or add tags to existing indexes? 18:40 tcohen it worked :-D 18:40 * wizzyrea whistles innocently 18:40 wizzyrea \o/ 18:40 wizzyrea yay, and now I have to get up and get ready for the day 18:40 drojf drnoe: there is something on the wiki, but it has a lot of errors unfortunately 18:41 tcohen thanks wizzyrea and gmcharlt 18:41 pianohacker does DOM use some XSLT nonsense? 18:41 drojf (or: it had when i last checked… and gave up setting up DOM indexing for "fun") 18:42 bag @seen hankbank 18:42 huginn bag: hankbank was last seen in #koha 17 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, 20 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <hankbank> yo 18:42 drojf drnoe: but adding fields is not too complicated. i think just looking at the respective files should give you an ideahow to do that 18:44 gmcharlt pianohacker: XSLT is inherent to how the DOM filter works in Zebra 18:45 pianohacker figured as much. 18:45 drojf drnoe: i added indexes to GRS-1 and DOM for bug 9972, maybe having a look at that might be useful 18:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Add/ change some zebra indexes (MARC21) (GRS1+DOM) 18:56 jcamins gmcharlt: I had a thought about indexing... what would you think about adding a command line variable-controlled xsl:include to koha-indexdefs? 18:57 jcamins It seems like that might be helpful for people who are making minor customizations to the DOM indexing configuration. 18:57 gmcharlt jcamins: seems reasonable 18:58 jcamins I was also thinking of a pass-through mode for XSLT. 19:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10297 - categorycode and branchcode should be required when adding patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81bfae93649a2f1a93f4722d052fc529c6495d71> 19:06 pianohacker pass-through mode? 19:06 jcamins pianohacker: right, to allow for writing the XSLT directly. 19:07 jcamins Easily. 19:08 jcamins Naturally you can do it right now by editing the build output. 19:08 drnoe I am way in over my head at this point, but would the index name be in a drop-down (something similar) or would the user need to know the index name? 19:08 cait i thnk te index name would be user defined on command line 19:08 cait i think? 19:09 cait orwould we have an interface? 19:09 drojf drnoe: you can add that with jquery 19:09 drojf if you mean add it as a search option 19:10 jcamins You'd add it with jQuery, and define it for the parser, either in C4::Search or queryparser.yaml, depending. 19:16 drnoe really sorry here, but in what files do I need to be looking for adding tags to an index when using DOM? ~/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/marc_defs/marc21/biblios/biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl ? 19:17 jcamins biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml is the one you'd edit, then you'd generate biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl. 19:18 tcohen bye #koha 19:23 drnoe jcamins: generate (biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl) when indexing? 19:23 jcamins drnoe: no, after making your changes. Take a look at the top of the file for instructions. 19:23 drnoe roger. wilco 19:24 jcamins It's an xsltproc command. The hard part is remembering which order the arguments go in. 19:28 drnoe ah, you mean the clear instructions I totally overlooked...(in my own defence, this is the first time I have looked that any of this). The easy part is making sure I document all of this. 19:38 libsysguy dpavlin around? 19:38 cait he doesn't pay much attnetion to irc - maybe try an email :) 19:38 cait and hi libsysguy 19:38 libsysguy I was just reading one of his repos on github 19:39 libsysguy and hi cait 19:39 libsysguy :P 19:41 * druthb chucks skittles at libsysguy 19:41 * libsysguy ducks 19:41 * libsysguy ducks out for the day, actually 19:41 libsysguy see you guys tomorrow 19:42 rangi *sigh* 19:42 druthb *snrk* 19:42 libsysguy aww rangi missed me 19:42 libsysguy :p 19:43 rangi lemme just say this again 19:43 rangi self check? 19:43 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DJ2xyD0wU4 19:43 druthb I'll be seeing libsysguy shortly for dinner with the boss—anyone want me to put a "kick me" sign on him? 19:44 cait um... now that you ask... 19:45 jcamins The first All-Russian Exhibition and Conference on Sheepherding was on 20-25 September 1912. 19:45 jcamins Thought you all might want to know. 19:45 cait lol 19:49 drnoe jcamins: so the next question is where to add/edit target indexes called in biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml? 19:50 pianohacker rangi: what are you dealing with self-check machines for 19:50 jcamins pianohacker: his sins. 19:50 jcamins drnoe: same deal as with GRS-1, so you can add Bib-1 attributes, or not, as you like. 19:50 pianohacker sins that potent normally get a mob sent after you, not a 3M representative 19:51 rangi pianohacker: lots of our koha clients use them, they are so incredibly fragile 19:51 rangi did you know you can make a 3m machine crash 19:51 pianohacker rangi: amen to that 19:51 rangi if you send a checkout suceeded response 19:51 pianohacker hah! did you look at it funny again? 19:51 pianohacker wtf 19:51 rangi that doesnt have a due date 19:51 * cait is not surprised 19:55 drojf so? write a new checkout machine firmware. like rockbox, for 3m machines :P 19:56 drojf make it do pong too, like rockbox 19:56 jcamins drojf: I was thinking rPi-based. 19:57 pianohacker drojf: The hardware in those things is proprietary as fuck 19:57 drojf a whole machine instead of the other thing? wpuld probably work 19:57 rangi been done 19:57 drojf which one? 19:57 rangi but who wants to be a hardware vendor 19:57 rangi not this guy 19:57 drojf heh 19:58 * jcamins either. 19:58 jcamins I just think it would be cool to have an rPi-based selfcheck. 19:58 drojf "hi. this is my machine. buy it, it just works. we will never meet again. goodbye" 19:58 rangi http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/lianza2006/img_1452 19:58 cait lol 19:59 pianohacker drojf: as far as custom firmware goes, 3m self-checks (at least the ones I've dealt with), interface with all of the hardware in them using a completely proprietary set of serial interfaces 19:59 rangi yeah yo have to build your own stack 19:59 drojf that does not sound like fun, really 19:59 rangi all the way through to the demagnetiser (or these days rfid) 19:59 jcamins An embedded selfcheck would also be cool. 19:59 jcamins Who wants to play with a RTOS? 19:59 drojf jcamins: embedded in the items? :) 20:00 pianohacker rangi: How would you even go about reverse-engineering that? Most of the serial debuggers I saw didn't even see half the interfaces 20:00 rangi this was pre rfid 20:00 rangi so you dont 20:00 rangi we blackboxed 20:00 jcamins drojf: I was thinking 8052, but if you have a way to make a Turing-complete item, you could do that instead. :P 20:00 pianohacker ? 20:00 rangi you dont have to know how it does it 20:01 rangi just what its doing 20:01 rangi and build something that does the same 20:01 rangi in this case, a pc, with linux and python acting as the sip client 20:01 pianohacker oh, okay 20:01 pianohacker that makes more sense 20:02 cait hm i think you can buy the rfid readers now... 20:02 cait and the interface to them must be documented? 20:02 rangi bwahaa 20:02 rangi you're new round here eh? 20:02 rangi :) 20:02 cait too optimistied? 20:02 drojf lol 20:02 rangi yes 20:02 cait optimistic? :) 20:02 rangi thats the one 20:02 cait drojf: hasn't wildau done something like that? 20:02 cait building their own hardware for projects nad stuff? 20:02 drojf cait: not sure but they are rfid freaks 20:03 cait i thought i heard they did 20:03 rangi http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/vienna/Chris_lworks_IMG_0779 <-- the olden days 20:03 cait they build this weird machine to mass check preprogrammed tags 20:03 cait i saw it at bibliothekartag ... 2 years ago 20:03 cait well not weird, but an interesting idea and seemed to work 20:03 cait hi kathryn 20:03 cait :) 20:03 kathryn hello cait! 20:03 wahanui hello cait are you here? 20:03 drojf rangi: great computer you got there ;) 20:04 rangi http://gallery.katipo.co.nz/vienna/IMG_0817 20:04 rangi its the UN's computer 20:04 rangi UNIDO in fact 20:06 rangi 2003 iirc 20:07 drojf that computer looks pretty old for 2003 too ;) 20:08 rangi its the UN :) 20:09 rangi right time to take kids the school 20:13 druthb wahanui: cait? 20:13 wahanui cait is qam, not your secretary 20:13 druthb :P 20:13 druthb wahanui: druthb? 20:13 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 20:13 * druthb nods. 20:14 druthb wahanui: jcamins? 20:14 wahanui it has been said that jcamins is RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search. 20:14 druthb lulz 20:15 pianohacker hey ruth 20:17 druthb hi, pianohacker! :D 20:17 druthb wahanui: pianohacker? 20:17 wahanui it has been said that pianohacker is a brilliant young whooper-snapper. 20:17 druthb :D 20:17 * druthb is kind of giddy today. 21:00 mtompset I still say it is whipper-snapper, druthb. :P 21:01 druthb :P 21:02 talljoy druthb what did you put in your herbal tea today? lol 21:02 druthb :D 21:03 druthb It was a pot of fierce this morning. 21:03 talljoy i reckon so! those are fun days! 21:03 talljoy RAWR 21:10 drojf good night #koha 21:10 cait bye drojf 21:10 trea o/ 21:18 mtompset DOH! I missed saying by to drojf. :( 21:18 cait he'll come back 21:18 rangi http://prism-break.org/ 21:19 rangi perfect :) 21:20 wizzyrea ^.^ I like that! 21:20 mtompset Silly question... if the IS_NULLABLE='NO' means a required field, then why on the patron screen are address and city not listed as required, and why is cardnumber allowed to be NULL?! 21:24 wizzyrea though if you are using iOS to begin with you should probably give up. 21:24 wizzyrea cyanogen if you are wanting android 21:42 jcamins mtompset: I'm pretty sure a NOT NULL text column can have '' 21:43 mtompset It can, jcamins. But that still doesn't really answer the cardnumber question. 21:43 jcamins Yeah, I have no answer to that. 22:06 mtompset Oooo.... AddMember_Opac. 22:07 mtompset Ewwwww.... fixup_cardnumber. 22:08 pianohacker huh? 22:09 mtompset What's your take on the comment above sub fixup_cardnumber in C4::Members.pm which is called by AddMember_Opac in the same module? 22:09 mtompset I don't see any DB locking, like the comment says should be done. 22:12 pianohacker mtompset: That code has enough smells to start a perfume shop 22:12 pianohacker but none of them good... 22:12 wizzyrea @quote get 250 22:12 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #250: "<cjh> This code smells of wine." (added by wizzyrea at 04:52 AM, May 24, 2013) 22:12 pianohacker hahahaha 22:13 * pianohacker has written very good code with his good friends Tequila and Vodka trio-programming with him, thank you very much 22:13 pianohacker mtompset: but yeah, unless something further up the stack is locking the tables, yeah, it's depending on blind luck 22:13 wizzyrea @quote add <pianohacker> That code has enough smells to start a perfume shop 22:13 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #257 added. 22:13 mtompset wizzyrea: that wasn't the whole quote. :P 22:13 pianohacker dammit, more smells than a waste treatment plant is a better analogy anyway 22:14 jcamins pianohacker: some of us are allergic to perfume. 22:14 pianohacker hahahaha true 22:14 wizzyrea @quote add *pianohacker has written very good code with his good friends Tequila and Vodka trio-programming with him, thank you very much 22:14 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #258 added. 22:15 pianohacker ^ none of the above in a professional context, however! I did write a one-line recursive lamdba-based depth-first search in Python for algorithms once though with a large beer by my side 22:16 mtompset Because I'd like to add code that called AddMember_Opac, but with the mess no being locked properly, I am thinking I'll have to fix that first. 22:17 mtompset And speaking of drunk coding... that requires sharing this xkcd. 22:17 mtompset http://xkcd.com/323/ 22:17 pianohacker heh, yup 22:23 eythian hi 22:23 wahanui bidet, eythian 22:25 mtompset ARG! 22:25 mtompset ./tools/import_borrowers.pl: # FIXME: fixup_cardnumber says to lock table, but the web interface doesn't so this doesn't either. 22:25 pianohacker hahahahahahaha 22:25 pianohacker distributed irresponsibility 22:25 cjh hahahha brilliant! 22:26 mtompset What have I found?! The horror! The horror! 22:26 wizzyrea @quote add <mtompset> What have I found?! The horror! The horror! 22:26 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #259 added. 22:26 wizzyrea it's a quoty kind of day 22:27 cjh @quote add <wizzyrea> it's a quoty kind of day 22:27 huginn cjh: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 22:27 pianohacker recursion-blocked! 22:27 wizzyrea PWNT 22:27 cjh lol 22:28 cjh @quote add <wizzyrea> it's a quoty kind of day 22:28 huginn cjh: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 22:28 wizzyrea ^.^ 22:28 cjh 10:28 [oftc] -!- Mode change [+R] for user cjh 22:28 cjh no love from huginn 22:28 wizzyrea @quote get 23 22:28 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #23: "<gmcharlt> /msg huginn register nick password" (added by wizzyrea_ at 04:25 PM, August 06, 2009) 22:28 wizzyrea >.> 22:28 wizzyrea <.< 22:28 pianohacker of course there's a quote for that 22:28 wizzyrea also, I'm using memory bits for it. 22:29 cjh @quote add <wizzyrea> it's a quoty kind of day 22:29 huginn cjh: The operation succeeded. Quote #260 added. 22:29 * cjh mumbles something nasty about huginn 22:29 pianohacker hey, grumble at wahanui if anything 22:29 pianohacker creepy malapropistic stalker bot 22:29 cjh wahanui is awesome! 22:29 cjh good night 22:29 wahanui If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me. 22:30 cjh never gets old :D 22:30 mtompset Good day (24 hour period), cjh. :) 22:30 cjh mtompset: thanks, but i'm not going to sleep, just wanted wahanui to be creepy :) 22:30 mtompset Doesn't that make you creepy? :P 22:31 eythian wahanui: be cjh is <reply>just wanted wahanui to be creepy 22:31 wahanui OK, eythian. 22:31 cjh heh 22:31 mtompset cjh? 22:31 wahanui cjh is just finishing off a report on the remaining issues with plack, which should help finish that work off 22:31 cjh be cjh? 22:31 wahanui just wanted wahanui to be creepy 22:31 mtompset be mtompset? 22:32 mtompset Good. Nothing yet. :) 22:32 cjh be mtompset is <reply>be mtompset? 22:32 cjh wahanui: be mtompset is <reply>be mtompset? 22:32 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, cjh 22:32 * mtompset laughs at cjh. 22:33 pianohacker does he seriously have recursion protection? 22:33 cjh that was what I was wondering, I have never seen him reply to himself. 22:34 mtompset wahanui, dump your source code and database to a paste for cjh and pianohacker. :P 22:34 wahanui mtompset: sorry... 22:34 cjh worth a shot. 22:34 eythian trust me, you don't want to see the source. 22:34 pianohacker http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot.html 22:35 cjh is it bad code? or worse, php? 22:36 eythian it's perl, it's just pretty ugly perl 22:36 pianohacker eythian: is that above the right link? 22:36 pianohacker author matches, at least, but wasn't sure 22:37 eythian yeah 22:37 eythian though I think we're using an older version 22:37 pianohacker ... older than 1999? 22:37 pianohacker good god 22:37 cjh heh 22:38 eythian oh, maybe not then 22:39 rangi trea: 22:39 rangi self check? 22:39 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DJ2xyD0wU4 22:40 trea Oh Guffman 23:28 dcook morning #koha 23:28 eythian hi dcook 23:33 mtompset Greetings, dcook eythian rangi pianohacker cjh wizzyrea druthb and anyone else I may have forgotten. :) 23:33 cjh dcook: morning 23:33 mtompset So, I added the lock around the code in AddMember_Opac... I even put a 30 second delay to see what would happen if it took too long. 23:33 cjh mtompset: belated good morning :) 23:34 mtompset Now to test the 90 second lock. :) 23:36 mtompset I hate waiting for testing. 23:36 pianohacker good night, wahanui 23:36 wahanui If you feel like someone is looking through your window, it's OK, it's just me. 23:37 pianohacker yup, you do that 23:37 mtompset Nice. 90 seconds worked. 23:45 mtompset Okay... I think I'm going to post a bug for the LOCKing mess I found. 23:46 mtompset or should I say lack of locking mess. 23:59 jcamins Hm. How much chocolate do I need to make 1 qt of chocolate-covered strawberries? 23:59 mtompset Enough to cover your keyboard in warm rootbeer? 23:59 jcamins 1-1/3 to 1-1/2 c.