Time Nick Message 00:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Remove extra table column header <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ec0005443867050a7f68522a0e1040386d45d90> / Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Add notes for 'Pay selected' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=34ea8fbec751600c332881debb88281b442113b3> / Bug 6413 follow-up: fixing capital case & tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; 00:03 eythian hi 00:15 eythian jcamins: don't suppose you're around? 00:22 tcohen wahanui: release maintenance is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance 00:22 wahanui OK, tcohen. 00:22 tcohen release maintenance? 00:22 wahanui hmmm... release maintenance is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Release_maintenance 00:22 rangi sweet 00:23 tcohen is WIP rangi, but at list I sumarized what u told us 00:23 rangi chris n did it too 00:24 rangi i think its a crazy chris thing 00:24 * cjh gulps 00:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1189: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1189/ 00:24 tcohen heh 00:24 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8215 - Course Reserves 00:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8215 follow-up encoding for branches & itemtypes 00:24 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: Followup FIX QA issues 00:24 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8215 - Add Course Reserves - QA Followup 00:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add Course Reserves 00:24 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: Followup Fix confirmation links for delete course and item 00:24 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8215: FIX ergonomic issue : 'Unchanged()' 00:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) run new files through perltidy 00:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) make sure C4::CourseReserves doesn't export anything 00:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) don't allow deleting course reserves from OPAC 00:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) avoid SQL syntax error in logs 00:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) rename GetItemReservesInfo 00:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) remove extraneous underscore in template 00:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: DBRev 3.13.00.001 for course reserves 00:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8215: (followup) avoid spurious warning in Apache log 00:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #44 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:28 rangi hmm why didnt the db change kick in 00:28 rangi + ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 00:28 rangi DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha.#sql-620e_4a2c2' (errno: 150) at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6878. 00:28 rangi DBD::mysql::db do failed: Can't create table 'koha.#sql-620e_4a2c2' (errno: 150) at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6900. 00:29 rangi foreign key stuff 00:29 gmcharlt wheeee 00:29 tcohen as long as you don't take on release maintenance, you are safe cjh 00:29 rangi that might need to be tested on a populated db 00:30 rangi or at least more populated 00:30 cjh tcohen: glad I didnt make that mistake! 00:30 gmcharlt rangi: 'twas 00:30 rangi interesting 00:30 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 00:30 rangi wonder what the error is, ill investigate a bit later 00:30 tcohen oh, don't tell me... you... recently.... 00:30 cjh it is too late for me :( 00:31 tcohen heh 00:31 gmcharlt rangi: yeah, I've observed on many occassions that MySQL won't create a FK on the first go 00:32 tcohen cjh, if you find things to improve in the proposed workflow i'd like to hear it 00:36 cjh have to have a read, looking forward to finding out how everything ticks :) 00:38 tcohen I forgot to mention we should *update bugzilla* 00:41 gmcharlt rangi: show innodb status (as the mysql root user) might help 00:50 tcohen bye #koha 00:57 rangi thanks gmcharlt will give that a try 01:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #44: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/44/ 01:08 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9508: Standardize the dateformat value from C4::Auth 01:08 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 9508 follow-up : replacing tabs by spaces 01:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9508 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , the dateformat variable is not standardized in template files 01:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #1190 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1188 6 hr 47 min ago) 01:26 zebran00b So what does everybody think of the LibLime distro? 01:26 eythian ... 01:26 eythian .... 01:26 eythian ! 01:26 zebran00b as I suspected 01:27 ibeardslee oh thanks we'd only just got eythian settled down after last time someone mentioned that ;) 01:28 zebran00b eythian: have you tried it? 01:28 eythian no 01:28 zebran00b neither have I but they seem... shifty 01:28 eythian yes 01:28 trea really? >.> 01:29 zebran00b trea: I don't really trust anyone who asks me for my email before letting me download "open source" software 01:29 trea ah k 01:30 zebran00b trea: never tried it, might be a good product, but their marketing department also was a bit frustrating by email 01:32 jcamins eythian: now I am. 01:32 zebran00b eythian: I figured out where I can place my wiki within my Koha instance - /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs. Is that messed up or is that decent? 01:32 eythian zebran00b: I wouldn't. 01:32 jcamins zebran00b: we think it's a shame that they call something so obviously not Koha "Koha." 01:32 eythian I'd set up apache properly to understand where you put it, and not put it somewhere where it could be upset by a future koha update. 01:33 eythian jcamins: just having some oddness with authority linking. 01:33 eythian i.e., some things aren't linking that I think should be. 01:33 jcamins Do you have an example? 01:36 eythian jcamins: from 690$a: <subfield code="a">Emergency Management Hazards and Disasters</subfield> 01:36 eythian and from the auth record: <datafield tag="150" ind1=" " ind2=" "> 01:36 eythian <subfield code="a">Emergency Management Hazards and Disasters</subfield> 01:36 jcamins eythian: that's a 690. 01:37 eythian yep 01:37 eythian it's set up in the framework to link 01:37 jcamins Yeah, but C4::Linker doesn't respect the frameworks. 01:37 jcamins Since other than that C4::Linker is awesome, I used it anyway. 01:37 eythian that might be problematical. 01:38 jcamins Or whatever it's called. 01:38 jcamins Not C4::Linker. 01:38 jcamins C4::Heading? 01:38 eythian C4::Linker::LastMatch is what I last tried 01:39 eythian jcamins: any way I could make it work? 01:39 eythian it should really work for 690 anyway, given that's a topic term field. 01:39 jcamins eythian: right, I wrote C4::Linker. It's C4::Heading that's the problem. 01:39 jcamins Yeah, just add a mapping for 690. 01:40 jcamins There's a hash. 01:40 jcamins You'll know it when you see it. 01:40 eythian ah OK 01:40 jcamins C4::Heading::MARC21 or some such. 01:40 wizzyrea \o/ 02:16 zebran00b I plan to wipe my server and reinstall Koha. Can I copy over an admin settings file or something to restore my system preferences? 02:16 jcamins You can back up your database. 02:17 zebran00b system prefs are in there too? 02:17 jcamins Yep. 02:17 jcamins Everything. 02:17 wahanui i heard everything was grilled 02:18 jcamins Except, obviously, database credentials. 02:21 jcamins And any Zebra customizations. 02:22 jcamins And your wiki if you put it in the Koha tree (but don't do that!). 02:22 rangi just use Alias /wiki/ /where/the/stuff/is/ 02:22 rangi dont actually put it in the tree 02:22 jcamins Right. 02:25 eythian http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tom7/papers/sigbovik2011tom7whatwords.pdf <-- jcamins 02:26 jcamins lol 02:26 eythian it's quite the paper, I've put it aside for reading at a later time :) 02:27 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 02:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1190: FIXED in 1 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1190/ 02:27 jenkins_koha * Chris Hall: Bug 6413 Added ability to add a note when paying or writing off a fine 02:27 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 6413 follow-up: fixing capital case & tabs 02:27 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Add notes for 'Pay selected' 02:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6413 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Notes in Fines doing wonky things 02:27 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 6413 - QA Followup - Remove extra table column header 02:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #1191 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 02:29 jcamins That's kind of incredible. 02:30 rangi gmcharlt: you were right it worked the second time 02:48 jcamins Yikes. Apparently running Time Machine and a VirtualBox VM at the same time is a bad idea. 02:48 jcamins How much processing power should rsync really take? 02:48 trea all of it. 02:48 jcamins trea: oh, right. 02:49 jcamins Silly me. 02:51 zebran00b thanks rangi, jcamins. Yeah, I just figured out the Alias bit, thanks for confirming. I don't remember having any zebra customizations, and I'll probably write a new crontab... 02:52 jcamins zebran00b: i you're reinstalling, I have a suggestion. 02:52 jcamins Use packages. 02:52 jcamins *if 02:52 zebran00b yes, I was going to use the debian package 02:52 jcamins In that case, you will not need to edit crontab at all. 02:53 jcamins At least, not for Koha. 02:53 jcamins For other things, perhaps, but this is #koha not #otherthings. ;) 02:56 zebran00b really? Because that's been my whole problem with my current install, search isn't automatically indexing newly uploaded records 02:56 jcamins If that happens with packages, it means that you edited the crontab, thereby breaking things. 02:56 jcamins The packages are set up with indexing out of the box. 02:56 zebran00b i c 02:58 zebran00b jcamins: if I use the current stable version package, do I have to install anything like apache in debian before running the package? Or does it include that along with all dependencies? 02:58 wizzyrea packages? 02:58 wahanui rumour has it packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 02:58 wizzyrea ^^ 02:58 wizzyrea read that 02:58 jcamins wizzyrea++ # beat me to it. 02:59 wizzyrea apache it should take care of, mysql it won't 03:00 zebran00b thx wizzyrea 03:00 wizzyrea but really - read the wiki page :) 03:01 zebran00b on it 03:31 eythian jcamins: if you're feeling like you have too much free time now, bug 10308 wants a signoff :) 03:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10308 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Authorities linker should handle the "local subject added entry" fields. 03:31 jcamins eythian: thanks, but I'm not. :P 03:31 jcamins And I'm taking a Koha break until June 1. 03:32 jcamins However, that'll be the first thing I sign off on after the hiatus. :) 03:32 eythian You'll be back before then. First the hands start shaking, then you'll have trouble forming words, then you'll notice you're putting an H book inbetween A and B, and your so-called hiatus will be over :) 03:32 jcamins lol 03:33 jcamins But not tonight. 03:33 jcamins Bedtime now. 03:33 jcamins Good night, #koha. 03:33 eythian later 03:33 gmcharlt eythian++ 03:33 wizzyrea eythian++ hehe 03:33 trea :D 03:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1191: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1191/ 04:13 dcook :S 04:13 dcook Can someone check a column name for me in the import_batches table? 04:14 cjh dcook: http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/import_batches.html 04:14 dcook I just thought of that after I typed that, hehe 04:14 cjh :) 04:14 dcook Thanks :) 04:14 dcook Hmm, that looks wrong as well.. 04:15 dcook Or maybe that is right... 04:15 * dcook flails 04:15 cjh probably one of those :) 04:15 dcook hehe 04:15 dcook hey ya cait 04:16 eythian wahanui: remind cait later 04:16 wahanui @later tell cait it's early, go back to bed 04:16 huginn wahanui: The operation succeeded. 04:16 wahanui huginn: what? 04:16 huginn wahanui: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 04:16 wahanui ...but i'll give you the answer as soon as rda is <reply>... 04:16 cait eythian: poor wahanui 04:17 eythian wahanui: poor wahanui is <reply>Will he ever win# 04:17 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:17 eythian wahanui: poor wahanui =~ s/#/?/ 04:17 wahanui OK, eythian 04:17 cjh that works? 04:17 eythian course it does 04:18 cjh poor wahanui? 04:18 wahanui Will he ever win? 04:18 cjh excellent. 04:29 cait wahanui botsnack cookies 04:29 wahanui thanks cait :) 04:29 mtj a little off-topic, but hey… -> http://twentytwowords.com/2013/01/11/worlds-biggest-bonfire-fueled-by-a-130-foot-tall-stack-of-pallets-10-pictures/ 04:30 dcook cjh: Issue with my backport. Balance is restored to the force :). 04:46 cait mtj: that looks quite dangerous 04:49 mtj yeah - if the tower fell the wrong way, it would certainly land on the people 04:51 * dcook thinks his fingers are almost too cold to type 04:51 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 04:51 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (2:30 PM EST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 04:52 dcook Bah. This country needs to get some heaters... 04:53 eythian @wunder nzwn 04:53 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling). 04:53 eythian ha ha. 04:53 dcook Must be a first :p 04:58 cjh this morning I couldnt see the sky :( 04:58 dcook I just noticed the rain :( 04:58 cait raining here too 04:58 wizzyrea hey 15 is pleasant 04:59 cait @wunder Konstanz 04:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.2°C (6:55 AM CEST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 05:02 eythian wahanui: wunder is <reply>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/20 05:02 wahanui ...but wunder is not really correct. wellington also has light rain. put that humidity up ;-)... 05:02 eythian wahanui: wunder is also <reply>http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/20 05:02 wahanui okay, eythian. 05:03 cait this light rain is going ot get me really wet on my way to work if it doesn't stop soon 05:11 mtj peeps, has anyone ever spotted a weird xslt error like this… -> http://koha.uac.bj/cgi-bin/koha/opac-export.pl?format=mods&op=export&bib=41454&save=Allez 05:11 cait no 05:12 mtj ...ive just bumped into this, on a 3.10.4 koha 05:12 cait and it looks like the thing breaking it is german? 05:12 cait Biotechnologie... 05:13 eythian those darn Germans breaking things. 05:13 eythian and their germs. 05:13 cait aha 05:13 cait you forgot to mention the boring beer 05:13 eythian I did 05:15 mtj uac.bj's koha looks to be an old 3.0.1 version, but a similar bug looks to still exist 05:18 mtj tho, the difference is that i am getting a similar error on page 3, of a staff keyword search 05:19 mtj ie… http://koha/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/search.pl?idx=kw&q=foobar&offset=40 05:20 mtj so i guess there is some glitchy string in one of the bibs on page 3, thats causing xslt to barf 05:22 * dcook has been wondering what would happen in that case 05:23 dcook If you have bad data, your XSLT detail and search displays bust, no? 05:23 dcook The TT templates seem more forgiving 05:23 mtj some combo of punctuation is causing the xslt transform to blow up 05:23 dcook Or rather the perl scripts behind them 05:24 dcook Which might either be a bug in the XSLT or bad data? 05:28 mtj meh, fone... 05:29 mtj dcook, yeah, i think that might be the quick-fix for this situ - flick the staff-seach syspref back to TT 05:29 mtj … then try to debug the xslt glitch later 05:30 mtj hey cait, thanks for your suggestion too :) 05:32 mtj woah, i just noticed the end of this line... 05:32 mtj "You can adjust xsltMaxDepth (--maxdepth) in order to raise the maximum number of nested template calls and variables/params (currently set to 250)" 05:35 mtj 250 sounds like a lot - but i guess that includes everything, not just nested calls... 05:37 eythian it is a lot, but it's also not unreasonable for a declarative parsing language, where you might be handling big XML input files. 05:37 eythian it's probably a good "not likely to hit in real life, but not likely to use all the RAM if it is it" kinda point. 05:47 mtj eythian, truth is, i'm not sure what file to edit , to bump that value 05:47 eythian mtj: it's not your issue 05:47 eythian it's the symptom of your issue 05:48 cait looks to me like there is a loop 05:48 eythian well, something is recursing infinitely I'd guess 05:48 cait have you checked the record that causes it and the function in slimUtils? 05:48 mtj yeah, i suspect that too, but would be nice to bump --maxdepth to 1000, to confirm that 05:48 cait i think just the same would happen 05:48 eythian pull out the marcxml and run the XSLT by hand 05:48 eythian and I agree with cait 05:49 cait must be a first :P 05:49 eythian :) 05:49 mtj im poking at the <xsl:template name="chopPunctuation"> function now 05:50 mtj …with some success (fingers crossed) 05:51 mtj s/function/template/ ? :) 05:51 eythian template I suppose 05:51 eythian it doesn't have funtions, per se. 05:52 mtj yeah, sorry - i'm a bit of a xslt noob 05:57 mtj yow, its a korean bib title, thats causing the fail 05:58 cait ah 05:58 cait interesting, why? 06:01 mtj hmm, not sure why yet... 06:01 murali hi everyone 06:03 murali I have installed koha 3.8.12.....i am unable to send uname and pwd for patrons while creating a new patron.....i ihave postfix mail server installed on my machine 06:03 murali please anyone help me 06:04 mtj murali, hmm, im not sure koha has that feature? 06:04 eythian I'm pretty sure it does 06:04 eythian though, I've never used it, I'm sure I've heard that it's there. 06:04 murali yeah u are ryt eythian 06:05 murali even i read it has that feature 06:05 murali but i am unable to send overdue notices also 06:05 eythian however, you'll have to explain a bit more. 06:06 eythian does any mail work from the machine at all? 06:06 eythian from koha? 06:06 eythian how did you install koha, with the packages or some other method? 06:06 murali some other method 06:06 murali http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/page/28248116/koha-installation-on-ubuntu 06:07 murali the procedure in this link 06:08 eythian ah, I see. 06:09 murali can u pls help me in this regard 06:09 eythian you need to answer the other questions before anyone can help. 06:09 mtj eythian++, aaah thanks for the correction :) 06:10 murali what is the question u want to ask 06:10 mtj hey cait, i found the problem… was some glitchy(ish) title data in a record 06:10 eythian <eythian> does any mail work from the machine at all? 06:10 eythian <eythian> from koha? 06:11 murali no from koha any mail is not working 06:11 mtj murali, eythian is asking *you* what is the question u want to ask :) 06:11 eythian no I'm not 06:11 eythian I'm asking murali to answer the questions I already asked :) 06:11 cait mtj: it's activated in the sysprefs 06:12 cait mtj: globally, only works on manual creation of a new patron 06:12 eythian murali: that's not really an answer. Have you tested sending mail from the machine at all? 06:12 murali from terminal iam able to send mail 06:12 mtj eythian - oops, so you are :) 06:13 murali but from koha iam unable to send 06:13 eythian murali: OK, and that goes through postfix all happily? 06:13 murali thats what i dont understand actuaaly 06:13 mtj cait, the problem bib's title was '설êµì˜ ì—사 (1):' 06:13 murali the command i used is mail -s "subject" 06:14 drojf good morning #koha 06:14 cait mtj: hm, doesn't look too bad 06:14 eythian if you ahve a look in /var/log/mail.info when you do that, you'll see messages from postfix saying what's happening. 06:15 murali k i will check once..... 06:15 eythian I strongly suspect it is going through there. 06:17 murali smtp connect is failed is the error msg in var/log/mail.log 06:18 eythian OK, you're going to have to figure that out probably. 06:18 mtj cait, yeah… it doesnt look to bad ?! 06:18 eythian So you mean that you can't send mail from the terminal and have it go through? 06:18 murali and in koha_error_log the error is memberentry.pl: connect to smtp.gmail.com failed (Connection refused) no (more) retries!, referer: http://127.0.1.1:8000/cgi-bin/koha/members/memberentry.pl?op=add&categorycode=O 06:18 murali if i use mailutils iam able to send mail through terminal 06:19 mtj if i edit the chopPunctuation template slightly, i fix the xslt crash 06:19 eythian well, Koha is attempting to send direct to gmail, which is not a good thing to be doing. 06:19 eythian I don't know why it'd do that. 06:19 mtj from <xsl:when test="contains('.,;/: ' 06:19 mtj to <xsl:when test="contains('.,;/:' 06:19 eythian did you change something in Koha to make it do that? 06:19 murali no ididn't change anything in koha 06:20 murali i have just installed postfix and tried to craete a new patron 06:20 mtj ie: removing the ' ' char, at the end 06:20 murali and this is the error msg in error log 06:20 eythian there's no reason I can think of that Koha would be trying to talk directly to gmail. 06:21 murali should i configure somethng in Mail::Sendpail.pm 06:21 eythian no 06:21 eythian did you change something there? 06:21 murali no 06:21 eythian hmm 06:22 eythian when you send from the terminal, you said it says "smtp connect is failed" 06:22 eythian but you also said it worked. 06:22 eythian Which is it? 06:22 mtj peeps, i gotta go - hope you get your problem sorted murali... 06:22 eythian later mtj 06:22 mtj cya, thanks for your help 06:23 murali i thought it worked 06:23 murali but it might not be working 06:23 eythian did the mail show up at the other end? 06:23 murali no 06:23 eythian that counts as "not working" to me :) 06:23 murali k 06:24 eythian your best bet is probably to configure postfix to send mail first. 06:25 murali do u have any idea how to configure postfix 06:25 murali to send mails 06:25 murali or else any links 06:25 eythian well, you can change its settings by running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix' 06:26 eythian but you'll have to talk to your network person about the information to give to it. 06:26 murali oh k 06:26 murali i will just try it 06:28 murali which option should i select "no configuration or Internet sites or Local only" 06:29 eythian that depends what you want to do with it. Probably the one that lets it talk either to the internet or via a smarthost. 06:30 eythian But to know which it is, you'll have to know how your network is set up. 06:31 murali iam not a regular linux user.......so please could you tell me how to know how my network is set up 06:32 eythian ask the person who set it up. How would you set up a mail client on your desktop computer? You need the same sort of information for sending mail here. 06:35 * eythian has to go now too 06:35 eythian bye all 06:36 murali http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/page/58731341/Configure%20gmail%20with%20postfix%20to%20send%20notices%20from%20Koha 06:36 murali i have installed post fix using this link 06:40 christophe_c hello 3koha 06:41 * magnuse waves 06:46 reiveune hello 06:46 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:48 cait bbl 06:54 drojf hi magnuse 06:54 alex_a bonjour 06:54 wahanui hola, alex_a 06:54 magnuse moin drojf 06:55 samueld hi everybody :-) 06:57 drojf ihi samueld 06:57 drojf *hi 06:59 drojf woah a huge magpie claims my balcony 07:02 dcook [off] Ugh...Dreamweaver sites are...ugh. 07:02 dcook Or at least whoever is implementing them...ugh 07:03 drojf would it be too much to to make it a rule for people with koha roles to regularly attend irc? 07:04 drojf s/to to/to 07:04 dcook Possibly, especially depending on the definition of regular 07:04 jajm hello 07:05 drojf dcook: i think a good start would be to try to attend more irc meetings than the one you are trying to get elected… 07:05 drojf hi jajm 07:06 dcook Good point, although that can be tough with timezone differences 07:06 magnuse timezones-- 07:07 drojf there are likely 2 out of 3 that are possible, i guess 07:07 dcook For instance, for the next IRC meeting, I'll be commuting to work 07:07 dcook I do have an IRC client on my phone though... 07:07 drojf see ;) 07:07 dcook But, I would be opting into that, I think 07:07 dcook Last IRC meeting I did on my phone wasn't too much fun 07:07 drojf i remember slef taking part in a meeting on the phone, standing oitside in the rain :D 07:07 dcook I wound up walking the wrong way home :p 07:08 drojf lol 07:08 drojf we wouldn't want that 07:08 dcook Well, I didn't wind up too far away ;) 07:08 dcook Hmm, you might have a point here. 07:08 dcook IRC is pretty much the best way to communicate with folks, it seems 07:09 drojf anyway, if you plan to invest time in koha (like, being a manager of something), i think it would not be too much to ask to come here once in a while. eg. while you are working on your koha stuff 07:11 dcook I take it you have someone(s) in mind? 07:11 dcook Or is this just a general thought? 07:11 drojf atm i am not very happy about how the live dvd thing is turning out. i hope my mail to the list was not too unfriendly 07:12 drojf i am very sure i talked to vimal about the "use in production" thing before. and now it is what he promotes for "small libraries" 07:13 dcook Mmm, I just get the digests, so I haven't seen it yet 07:13 * dcook waves to asaurat 07:13 asaurat hi! 07:13 dcook Conflicting information is a tough one.. 07:14 drojf bonjour asaurat 07:17 gaetan_B hello 07:28 huginn GERMS!!!! 07:28 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 07:28 kf hmpf 07:29 drojf i'm happy they don't know about my germ_ness 07:30 kf undercover drojf germinator? 07:30 drojf looks like it. you are the only true germ :D 07:30 kf lol 07:32 dcook Hmm, I think it's home time for this misplaced Canadian 07:32 kf have a nice evening dcook 07:32 dcook Maybe I'll have to try installing Koha from the packages in a couple hours at home... 07:32 dcook thanks, kf. Have a nice day ^_^ 07:32 drojf or you could use a live dvd ^^ 07:33 drojf dear log reading person: do not use a live dvd. a package installation is a nice and easy thing to do. 07:35 dcook drojf: hehe 07:35 dcook I'm pretty excited for the packages. 07:35 dcook I wonder a bit how I could do localized packages, but I think jcamins and others have tools/info on that... 07:36 dcook Anyway, time for me to blow this popsicle stand 07:36 cjh and then gitify ;) </shameless_plug> 07:36 dcook night kf, drojf, et al. 07:36 drojf night d… 07:36 drojf too slow 07:37 cjh drojf++ documenting for the sake of log readers. 07:38 drojf :D 07:45 magnuse gitify? 07:45 wahanui somebody said gitify was at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify 07:45 kf oh nice 07:52 rangi drojf++ #good email 07:53 * magnuse upgrades a dev install to 3.13.00.001 and smiles at the upgrade message for 3.13.00.000 07:54 kf magnuse: same here this morning :) 07:55 cjh magnuse: sorry didnt see you ask, thankfully wahanui has it covered :) 07:55 cjh magnuse: gitify takes a koha-package install and makes it run from a git repo (instead of the /usr/share/ files) 08:06 zebran00b rangi: u there? 08:06 wahanui there is a lot of clean up that could be done. 08:11 zebran00b any package experts awake? 08:32 mur hi 09:13 drojf yay, it starts to rain the minute i have to leave the house 09:14 drojf ugh. that is a lot of rain. maybe i postpone my departure a little 09:19 rangi well ive done my bit, you cant help those that don't want help 09:21 drojf true 09:22 rangi for the record i never said no dvd at kohacon, just that its a bad idea to use one that is not upgradable 09:23 rangi i also said no, im not going to make one 09:23 kf I read it like that :) 09:26 * drojf gives the "leave the house" thing another try. see you later #koha 09:36 rangi ok now hes annoying me, which means i should definitely not reply 09:38 * rangi files the mail away 09:38 * kf hands rangi the cookie jar 09:40 * rangi eats them all 09:41 kf lol 09:46 dcook Muahaha 09:46 kf are you supposed to be here at this time of the day, dcook? 09:47 dcook Mmm, nope 09:47 rangi hes probably working on a livedvd 09:47 dcook Probably :p 09:47 dcook Just got home from work, so naturally I just installed Xchat and am getting ready to install Koha via the Debian packages 09:48 dcook You know...for a novel thing to do and all 09:48 dcook Must say that Xchat is much nicer on Linux than Windows... 09:51 dcook debian packages? 09:51 wahanui debian packages are at debian.koha-community.org 09:55 rangi packages? 09:55 wahanui it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 09:58 dcook The first page links to it too, but thanks :) 09:59 dcook So far so good 10:13 dcook Ok. Everything installed. Time for configuration... 10:15 kf :) 10:15 dcook I'm significantly less confident now ;) 10:16 dcook If I'm not using DNS, do I still need to do "sudo a2enmod rewrite"? 10:16 rangi yes 10:16 dcook I thought so, but I wasn't sure. Thanks, rangi :) 10:16 kf indradg++ 10:17 dcook "Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' to activate new configuration!" 10:17 dcook But I haven't configured anything yet.. 10:18 kf you activated the module i think 10:18 dcook Yep, that's it 10:19 * magnuse gets his interwebs back 10:19 * magnuse cheers dcook on 10:19 dcook Thanks, magnuse :) 10:19 dcook "Listen on port 8080: $EDITOR /etc/apache2/ports.conf" 10:19 dcook Now if I were to modify my apache conf here...I'd need to restart afterward.. 10:20 magnuse yup 10:20 kf indrag++ 10:20 * dcook hasn't really played with apache config files since late 2011 :/ 10:21 drojf yay package installation \o/ 10:21 * magnuse thinks dcook missed out on a lot of fun, then 10:21 magnuse drojf++ 10:22 dcook Ahh, I think I follow now.. 10:23 dcook Almost 10:23 * dcook goes off to read more apache-specific pages 10:23 rangi ed is back 10:24 drojf dcook: if you are following the wiki, you'll have to restart apache a few times, or just at the end :) 10:24 dcook drojf: Yep, following the wiki 10:25 dcook I figure I'll probably just restart it at the end 10:29 dcook Hmm, I'm a bit stumped 10:30 dcook Oh well, moving on 10:34 rangi [off] for some background, ed single handedly managed to stop the introduction of LCCN into koha for almost a year by demanding it in such an offensive manner that no one wanted to work on it 10:35 dcook [off] fun times 10:35 rangi [off] yep the king of thread hijacks http://osdir.com/ml/misc.koha/2003-12/msg00026.html 10:35 kf [off] sounds like it 10:36 rangi [off] http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.koha/1870 10:36 rangi [off] i should compile them all, it got pretty hilarious by the end 10:37 kf [off] let me guess hw many patches he contributed ? 10:38 rangi [off] actually he stopped patches being committed, i think he is the only person with a negative patch count 10:38 rangi [off] its a skill 10:39 kf [off] lol 10:40 drojf [off] lol 10:40 dcook Hmm... 10:41 dcook Created my instance but no idea how to access it now 10:42 drojf did you do any dns stuff? if no, visit server-ip:8080 10:42 dcook I didn't do any dns stuff, but I also didn't make any changes for apache to listen to 8080 10:42 dcook As I couldn't remember how to do that ;) 10:43 drojf ah. i thought you were doing that when i came in 10:43 dcook I second-guessed myself in the end 10:43 drojf open /etc/apache2/ports.conf or what it is called and add 'Listen 8080' under 'Listen 80' 10:43 drojf and restart. that should be all 10:44 dcook Nice! I see a web installer! 10:44 dcook Danke, drojf! 10:45 drojf [off] not sure if i want to grant users the "freedom" to use an insecure system as a production environment 10:45 drojf dcook: gern geschehen :) 10:45 kf [off] sounds like a job for our sneaky updater.. hacking into the server is easier with default passwords :) 10:46 drojf [off] so, this is ed. seems like a great guy. 10:46 drojf [off] he might be a person i would recommend using a live dvd to :P 10:46 * rangi heads to bed 10:46 kf night rangi :) 10:46 drojf night rangi 10:46 dcook night rangi 10:48 kf nice effect there - every nick being a bit longer :) 10:49 dcook drojf++ 10:49 dcook I thought it might be as easy as putting Listen 8080, but I wasn't sure because of the NameVirtualHost bit having *:80 10:50 dcook Hmm, can't seem to access the OPAC... 10:59 dcook Just realized that there are no bib records in a fresh install so maybe zebra is working.. 10:59 * dcook really should be out in the rain and not on the computer.. 11:04 dcook Ack, out of time 11:04 dcook Thanks again rangi, drojf 11:05 dcook I'll have to look more at this on the weekend\' 11:22 magnuse koha_on_the_weekend++ 11:43 magnuse @wunder boo 11:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 19.0°C (1:20 PM CEST on May 22, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 11:55 * dcook might try to sneak a bit more Koha in tonight... 12:03 dcook Hmm, zebra working. Yay! 12:04 dcook A bit laggy though. 12:04 dcook I guess it's rare that you'd catalogue a book and then want immediate access to it though 12:04 dcook Well, potentially rare... 12:06 jcamins dcook: koha-translate in 3.12 takes care of localizing the packages. 12:06 kf dcook: i think there was work on the indexer for the packages... maybe ask tcohen 12:07 dcook jcamins: I meant in terms of building my own packages 12:07 dcook kf: Good to know. I want to say there was always a bit of a delay though. We have custom zebra settings at work 12:07 jcamins Oh, you just build packages the same way that anyone else does. 12:07 dcook Still not able to access the OPAC following the Debian package install.. 12:08 dcook jcamins: Yeah, I started looking through the wiki, and it mentioned a page to look at. Plus, I seem to remember you having a script in your git repo somewhere. 12:08 kf dcook: which url are you trying? 12:08 dcook Much more interested in accessing the OPAC than building packages at this point though 12:08 dcook Well, I access the staff client by going to 192.168.1.xxx:8080 12:09 dcook But when I try 192.168.1:80, it just gives me Apache's default page 12:09 dcook Which makes a certain amount of sense, I suppose.. 12:09 jcamins dcook: `sudo a2dissite default` 12:09 dcook Mmm 12:10 kf ^^ 12:10 jcamins Then restart Apache. 12:10 dcook You are a gentleman and a scholar, jcamins 12:10 dcook jcamins++ 12:10 dcook Hey ya oleonard 12:10 oleonard Hi 12:10 dcook Whereabouts do the apache config files live for Debian installs? 12:10 dcook That don't use the...koha-sites.conf 12:11 jcamins /etc/apache2/sites* 12:13 dcook Beautiful! 12:13 wahanui it has been said that Beautiful! is that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing? 12:13 dcook Many thanks again, jcamins :) 12:14 dcook Mmm, and sites-enabled is just a symlink...sweet 12:14 magnuse dcook: look at debian/build-git-snapshot if you want to build your own packages. it's fun! 12:14 * dcook claps 12:14 oleonard wahanui: forget Beautiful! 12:14 wahanui oleonard, I didn't have anything matching beautiful 12:14 oleonard wahanui: forget Beautiful\! 12:14 wahanui oleonard, I didn't have anything matching beautiful\ 12:14 kf oleonard: why not let him keep ti? :) 12:15 * oleonard takes all of wahanui's toys for himself 12:15 magnuse dcook: the symlinks are created and destroyed by the a2ensite and a2dissite commands, respectively :-) 12:15 jcamins dcook: I use this: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git;a=blob;f=release-tool.pl;h=383616583ce044e9cbcc145b501ce8b556cac832;hb=HEAD 12:15 jcamins (for building packages) 12:15 magnuse dbic++ 12:17 kf oleonard: lol 12:18 kf oleonard: no pressure at all intended - but do you have a timeframe in mind for the new templates? :) 12:18 jcamins oleonard: okay, maybe a little bit of pressure. :P 12:18 kf not from me- i am just curious :) 12:19 magnuse ooh, yes now we can start nagging oleonard about that ;-) 12:19 oleonard The only timeframe I have at the moment is that I want it in 3.14 12:19 kf yay :) 12:19 magnuse hehe 12:19 oleonard ...and I want it in with plenty of time for y'all to kick the tires. 12:19 magnuse good plan 12:19 magnuse even better! :-) 12:19 kf excellent :) 12:20 oleonard At this point I'm still not sure what the proper way of submitting it is. 12:20 kf hm git branch maybe? 12:20 kf we could make use of this pushed for qa status :) 12:21 kf oh 12:21 oleonard I talked before about having it replace CCSR, but I should probably submit it as a third theme for testing purposes. 12:21 kf wouldn't it 'must' be new files in a new theme directory? 12:21 kf just... 12:21 kf I think maybe naming it 'default' like someone suggested would be good 12:22 jcamins kf: I don't think "pushed for QA" would be necessary, since even without using that several patchsets that were developed in branches got in. :) 12:25 oleonard I'm going on the assumption that we want a new default theme, and that we don't want to support more than one theme anymore. 12:25 jcamins oleonard: both sound good to me. 12:25 oleonard My idea, to reiterate, is to replace CCSR with the new theme in 3.14 12:26 oleonard Then in 3.16 or whatever, drop prog and make the new theme default 12:26 jcamins Sounds good to me. 12:26 dcook oleonard++ 12:27 kf oleonard: agreed - i was only wondering if we should drop ccsr directly or one release later 12:27 dcook All right. I think it's bedtime. Thanks again jcamins, kf, drojf, rangi, magnuse, and anyone I missed! 12:27 kf good night dcook 12:27 dcook Your help has been very much appreciated :) 12:28 dcook I think there is a new convert to using Debian packages ;) 12:28 kf dcook: the real fun starts when you do more than one instance :) 12:28 magnuse oleonard++ 12:28 mtj i guess we still need to have some non-bootstrap theme in koha, for older web-browsers? 12:28 kf yep oleonard++ :) 12:29 kf mtj: so it's not degrading? 12:29 oleonard mtj: What problems do you see with older browsers? 12:29 jcamins mtj: why? The OPAC already doesn't work with anything older than IE6. 12:30 mtj hey, i'm completely fine with bootstrap :) 12:31 mtj but, other people on the lists were saying that bootstrap didnt run on their old browers 12:32 mtj …to which my reply would be 'well, upgrade your browser...?' :) 12:32 jcamins Yeah, if you're using IE5 (or even IE6), you need to not be using it anymore. 12:32 kf so what does happen if it does not run? 12:32 oleonard If I had my way we would drop support for IE7 too 12:32 kf i woudl guess it breaks part of the responsiveness 12:32 kf ? 12:33 jcamins kf: well, right now if you try to view the OPAC on IE5 all the Javascript breaks and it's a huge mess. 12:33 oleonard Older browsers can't do responsive, but that should just mean that the design isn't responsive. 12:33 jcamins And, yes, I know this from experience. 12:34 jcamins Same issue in Safari 1. 12:34 oleonard ...and if you're running IE5 on your phone, you've got serious issues we can't address. :P 12:34 jcamins lol 12:34 jcamins Very true. 12:34 wahanui I know. That's why I said it. 12:34 kf oleonard: heh 12:35 mtj cool, i agree with all of that ^^ 12:35 kf mtj: isn't it night for you? 12:36 kf mtj: according to your sleeping rhythm you should move to europe :) 12:38 oleonard Okay, so I'll treat my new theme as a third one for now so that it's easy to test alongside the stable ones. 12:38 jcamins Makes sense to me. 12:38 oleonard Lucky me, I get to play the "maintain your own custom theme" game for a while :) 12:38 mtj kf, yeah, 00:30 here - i'm about to head to bed 12:44 drojf but... what if my windows live dvd system comes with IE5 and i want to keep using it? 12:46 drojf windows 3.11 live floppy disk 12:47 jcamins lol 12:51 NateC 'ello 12:53 magnuse drojf: that's a question for the google group 12:53 oleonard Okay, I had patience enough to jump into the Live DVD thread yesterday, but now it's all gone. 12:54 jcamins lol 12:54 oleonard All of us who suggest that Live DVDs may not be the best way to run Koha in production are evil elitists and we're all wrong. 12:54 jcamins Yeah. 12:54 jcamins I am sending one e-mail. 13:15 magnuse jcamins++ for letting myshkin have a voice too ;-) 13:16 druthb g'mornin', #koha 13:18 NateC hey druthb! 13:18 kf jcamins++ 13:18 kf well myshkin++ really 13:19 jcamins Cats are people too! 13:21 jcamins I could've used my own introduction to Koha as an example of why live cds are problematic. 13:21 jcamins Oh well. 13:23 jcamins That message was more than long enough anyway. 13:24 drojf jcamins: there will be plenty of time while the thread continues. wait till paul enters it 13:24 jcamins drojf: I'm done. 13:24 jcamins Ooh, mute! 13:24 jcamins I always forget about mute. 13:24 drojf :D 13:25 jcamins Done. 13:25 * jcamins leaves. 13:25 NateC So Huntsville County Library System has just signed on for an implementation and ongoing support for Koha 13:26 NateC the significance of this? 13:26 magnuse w00t anyway! 13:26 kf wrong channel? 13:26 NateC IT was the headquarters of Sirsi Dynix! 13:26 kf woot :) 13:26 NateC nope right channel 13:26 kf IT? 13:26 wahanui IT is probably changing a default behaviour 13:26 NateC win for Koah 13:26 kf oh IT 13:26 kf sorry lol 13:26 kf congrats! :) 13:27 magnuse not bad for Koha either ;-) 13:27 NateC my point exactly 13:27 NateC the evil empire is crumbling 13:27 NateC slowly 13:27 NateC so the "service" rep for Sirsi lives in Huntsville and uses their library 13:28 NateC that makes me smile 13:28 magnuse hehe 13:28 drojf lol 13:28 drojf nice 13:36 oleonard Okay, now there's a bug for it: Bug 10309 13:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap 13:48 kf oleonard++ :) 13:48 magnuse oleonard++ 13:49 oleonard Thanks, I should tell you guys every time I file a bug ;) 14:01 tcohen morning #koha 14:05 drojf hi tcohen 14:05 tcohen hi drojf 14:06 * drojf heads home 14:17 tcohen Bug 9735 is a useful one 14:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Choose language using URL parameters in any page 14:20 aj_ Any idead on how to Set email as username in Patron Self Registration module 14:20 aj_ http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Set-email-as-username-in-Patron-Self-Registration-module-tp5755514.html 14:26 oleonard aj_: Since there is no preference for that I assume that you can't do that without modifying the code. 14:27 aj_ any suggestion what code modification would be required 14:28 oleonard aj_: No, but if you search the code for references to one of the prefs, like PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory, you might get some clues. 14:29 aj_ thank you! will try that out 14:30 oleonard aj_: A worthwhile contribution would be to add a new system preference letting the librarian choose how to create the username 14:32 gmcharlt @quote random 14:32 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #218: "rangi: ... graciousness never ever hurts." (added by mtompset at 08:25 AM, October 07, 2012) 14:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #45 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:40 * aj_ slaps aj_ around a bit with a large fishbot 14:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10261: Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c3dd427fa26e4f84d14a81453e12b868936a3bf> 14:51 rafael Hi everyone! 14:52 rafael I am trying to install pt_br translation to koha 3.12 in ubuntu 13.04.... I am getting an Can't find C4 context error. Although I have exported the variable with sudo env PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib/ 14:52 rafael I get: Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) 14:52 kf i think maybe do export 14:52 rafael I tried both env and export 14:52 kf how did you install koha? 14:52 rafael export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib 14:52 kf are you using packages? 14:52 rafael kf, following the wiki. Packages the webinstaller 14:52 kf ah 14:53 rafael kf: yes 14:53 kf in 3.12 there are new commands ot handle installations in packages 14:53 kf i will find the bug for you 14:53 rafael kf: Thanks 14:53 kf i think the problem is the user 14:53 kf the new scripts shoudl take care of that 14:53 kf bug 10041 14:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations 14:54 kf hm perhaps try koha-translate --help 14:55 kf should be as easy as koha-translate -i pt_br i think 14:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9507: prevent submit: refactor some code in a js file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e4c289d3f68aaab5d47172940e30fba0819804e> 14:55 rafael kf: Thanks a lot... To download the the po files do I need to register in the translation communisties. I found the po files there, but no link to download them.. 14:56 kf hm they should be in your version already I think 14:56 kf 3.12 was released with the latest po files from pootle 14:56 kf but if you really want newer files (and there are valid reasons) just register and check the 'review' tab - there is the download button 14:56 rafael kf: Thanks a lot! 14:56 kf registering needs a confirmed email address, but should work 14:57 kf np - hope it works :) 15:01 rafael Installarion of pt-BR worked. I changed the i18n to pt-br in both staff and opac and restarted apache. Reloaded but interface is still in English 15:01 rafael Do I need to recretae an instance? 15:08 tcohen no you don't 15:08 tcohen you don't need to restart apache either 15:09 maximep try activating opaclanguagesdisplay and look at if it's listed 15:09 maximep on the bottom of pages 15:09 tcohen on the bottom left corner you should see "Portuguese" 15:09 oleonard rafael: Do you have both en and pt-br enabled in system preferences? 15:10 rafael I see. Sorry before you answered I removed my instance and created a new one hopping I would get the installer again... Now I can't reach the webinstaller. I just get a It works apache message. 15:11 rafael http://localhost:8080/ brings me the default apache installed page... Maybe I need to a2ensite again? It says it already exists 15:11 rafael koha-list show me the instance was sucessfuly created 15:13 tcohen run koha-list --enabled 15:13 rafael Got it. Just needed to set the apache virtualhost to 8080 15:14 rafael Thanks a lot 15:14 rafael Now I hve the option to resume the installer in pt_br 15:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #45: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/45/ 15:20 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 2774 - Path to theme is hard-coded in many places 15:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places 15:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #1192 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10080: DBRev 3.13.00.002 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33b6ed32b40133c2c88e17aebf4d3382bd966c6f> / Bug 10080: (followup) change two last instances of the old syspref name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=066b55ef4d39cf422fc4f9755de6341a6b6410bb> / Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches - Followup <http://git.koha-commun 15:26 oleonard The long nightmare is over. 15:28 kf lol 15:28 kf hopefully we didn't miss some weirdness :) 15:30 reiveune bye 15:56 kf gmcharlt++ :) 15:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7718: DBRev 3.13.00.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c62c36508d0bea76322ead627c65e8b19fc9d91a> / Bug 7718 - Remove itemnumber column from serials table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67fb83d52554031f946709495112920fa2fc784c> 16:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1192: SUCCESS in 1 hr 16 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1192/ 16:37 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10261: Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt 16:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9507: prevent submit: refactor some code in a js file 16:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10261 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Link to patron files missing from circ-menu.tt 16:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Some code used to prevent form from being unexpectedly submitted is duplicated 16:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #46 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:02 * cait waves 17:18 gaetan_B bye ! 17:21 tcohen gmcharlt: should 10080 be considered fr 3.12.x? Didn't read it yet 17:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #46: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/46/ 17:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10251: Fix typos in Patron Permissions Help 17:22 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 10288 - Fix a tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" 17:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10251 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Stable , typos in help/members/member-flags.tt 17:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10288 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Tiny typo on "Pending offline circulation actions" 17:22 jcamins but 10080 17:22 jcamins bug 10080 17:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10080 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches 17:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #1193 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:23 jcamins tcohen: absolutely not. 17:23 jcamins IMO 17:23 tcohen because of the DB change? 17:24 tcohen is not relevant right now 17:24 jcamins Because it's high-risk and low-reward. 17:25 tcohen exactly, agreed 17:25 oleonard no reward at all for people who only care about stable. 17:25 gmcharlt yeah, the reasons why it was held back for 3.12 still apply to a stable branch 17:26 gmcharlt one thing to note -- patches don't have to be cherry-picked from master to a stable branch *instantly* 17:26 gmcharlt it's OK to wait to see if there are any side-effects first 18:23 tcohen gmcharlt: is there a roadmap for 3.14 already established somewhere? 18:23 gmcharlt tcohen: no; I need to do that 18:28 tcohen bugzilla doesn't have the concept of milestones, right? 18:28 tcohen (assign a collection of bugs to a goal, called milestone 3.14 , and such) 18:30 tcohen like this http://tinyurl.com/prvx76x 18:30 oleonard cait did you do some batch bug changes like you threatened to the other day? 18:30 rambutan is there a way to enable logging of OPAC search terms, whether the user is logged in or not? 18:31 gmcharlt tcohen: the problem with that is that there's no way to *require* that any particular bugs that make up a milestone actually be worked on 18:32 tcohen which bz version are we on? 18:32 tcohen I mean *at* 18:32 oleonard 4.2.5 18:35 tcohen milestone definition is supported, maybe it just doesn't fit our dev workflow/process 18:36 cait oleonard: negative 18:37 cait i am still trying to come up with a list trying to remember what we did last time 18:37 gmcharlt tcohen: I don't think it does, except possibly as a way to tag bugs *after* we know that the patches have made it in for a particular release 18:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1193: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1193/ 18:37 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches 18:37 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10080 - Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches - Followup 18:37 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10080: (followup) change two last instances of the old syspref name 18:37 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10080: DBRev 3.13.00.002 18:37 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 7718 - Remove itemnumber column from serials table 18:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10080 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Change system pref IndependantBranches to IndependentBranches 18:37 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 7718: DBRev 3.13.00.003 18:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7718 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Remove itemnumber column from serials table 18:37 maximep should I change the Version of bug 9394 to 3.14 or leave it to master ? Isn't master the next version, 3.14 ? 18:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Use reserve_id where possible 18:38 gmcharlt maximep: I say leave it at master 18:38 gmcharlt at least so far, assigning a specific version to a bug is most useful if the bug *only* affects that version 18:39 maximep ok thx 18:39 maximep my first signoff hehe 18:39 maximep it was about time, after 2 years of working on koha -_- 18:39 * magnuse waves goodbye to IndependantBranches 18:40 magnuse maximep++ 18:40 maximep khall++ for the great work you're doing 18:40 cait sorry was afk, reading back now 18:42 magnuse maximep: don't forget to change the status in bugzilla ;-) 18:42 cait oleonard: did you have one specific change in mind? 18:42 cait or a plan? :) 18:42 cait i can try and ask rangi to help me by switching mail off and do the changes we come up with 18:43 oleonard Nope, just thought to wonder after hearing the talk about milestones 18:43 gmcharlt maximep++ 18:43 cait we did some changes to mark things resolved fixed that had been released last time 18:44 cait so i think maybe we would mark pushed to stable and pushed to master bugs from before the release as resolved fixed 18:44 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:44 mtompset I was doing a git rebase on my patch that I'm hacking around on. 18:44 cait gmcharlt, oleonard everyone else opinions on that idea? :) 18:44 cait and maximep++ :) 18:44 * druthb blames cait. 18:44 mtompset -- what idea? 18:44 cait druthb: ? 18:45 * druthb shrugs. 18:45 gmcharlt cait: seems reasonable to me 18:45 cait (20:44:00) cait: so i think maybe we could mark pushed to stable and pushed to master bugs from before the release as resolved fixed 18:45 maximep magnuse: oops, tought I had changed it when I sent the patch. thx 18:45 cait i'd also like to reset some assignees that are no longer active 18:45 cait we still have lots assigned to sekjal and hdl 18:46 cait but not sure if I can do a good search for those... i always struggle with names 18:46 oleonard They'll be back when they start missing us too much. 18:46 magnuse awww... 18:46 cait you think? :) 18:46 mtompset -- I was noticing a code change to older way of checking in the updatedatabase.pl on latest master stuff. 18:53 gmcharlt mtompset: hmm? 18:53 mtompset the old long style if with TransformToNum in it vs. CheckVersion() 18:54 jcamins mtompset: yes. 18:54 gmcharlt mtompset: ah, yeah, the course reserves patch has been around for yonks before it got merged 18:54 mtompset Was there a reason? 18:54 jcamins CheckVersion makes it easier to transition to the proposed database update scheme. 18:55 gmcharlt and I plain goofed with the 3.13.00.000 18:55 gmcharlt jcamins: which to emphasize, remains just a proposal from my POV 18:55 mtompset So, should all the if's be nice and pretty and the same? 18:56 jcamins mtompset: it doesn't really matter. 18:57 mtompset okay, so then, which way should I be doing it? 18:57 gmcharlt mtompset: CheckVersion 18:57 mtompset Okay... just making sure. :0 18:58 cait jcamins: did you see the updatedatabase improvment showed up in the release notes? 18:59 jcamins I did not. 18:59 jcamins Oh well. 18:59 cait i think the script is not prepared for reverts 18:59 jcamins Yeah, definitely not prepared for reverts. 18:59 * jcamins checks if he cares... 18:59 jcamins nope. :D 18:59 cait heh 19:00 gmcharlt jcamins: which actually might speak to the one use for milestones that I can see 19:01 gmcharlt (BZ milestones, that is) 19:01 jcamins gmcharlt: yeah, I definitely think those could be good. 19:01 jcamins But that requires an active bug wrangler. 19:03 jcamins And I think Dyrcona can speak to how much work that is. 19:03 gmcharlt in part, although one part lends itself to automation, namely tagging bugs that change state to 'pushed to master' with the upcomnig major release milestone 19:04 cait gmcharlt++ btw :) 19:05 jcamins I guess if people could be taught to not mark milestones on bugs they've not actually fixed most could be automated. 19:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: prefer CheckVersion in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec3c8e95e012e65cb2444c8ed62e48af34b3788c> 19:08 gmcharlt mtompset++ 19:09 mtompset Thank you. Not a biggie. :) 19:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #1194 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:29 cait hi pianohacker 19:29 pianohacker hi cait 19:29 pianohacker how's it going? 19:29 cait good, busy :) 19:30 pianohacker know the feeling :) what are you up to? 19:31 cait hm too many things at once? :) 19:32 pianohacker yeah, medical issues, helping friends move, work, etc. 19:33 pianohacker just runnin' all over the place 19:33 cait oh right, you mentioned something about your hearing? 19:34 pianohacker yeah, had surgery for a bone-attached hearing aid on monday, and the little healing cap over the gauze decided to fall off yesterday 19:35 cait hm and that's not good then? 19:37 pianohacker no, not really. in doctor's office right now, working over phone internet 19:37 pianohacker anyway 19:37 pianohacker I'm griping 19:37 pianohacker what are you up to 19:38 cait just a lot of work and different projects 19:38 cait lots of interest this year in koha :) 19:39 cait and need to update our manuals and prepare a bigger training 19:39 pianohacker good! 19:39 pianohacker that's excellent news 19:43 cait hope your ear is going to be ok 20:04 jcamins ... 20:04 jcamins oh my. 20:09 drojf hm. so arguments are unhealthy, to question something is an incredibly negative response and all that somehow relates to a longish article about sexism that i am not going to read tonight? i guess i just take my "trolly" label and not respond to that thread anymore 20:10 jcamins Huh? 20:10 drojf its that thread you don't read ;) 20:10 rangi drojf: thats what i did 20:10 cait the new pootle looks great 20:10 drojf cait: yay 20:10 cait wonder if it will be hard to upgrade? 20:10 rangi took it as an attempt to shut down discussion, shut down my discussion, ill refer ppl who get hacked to that thread :) 20:10 cait drojf: for example i like that: http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/pootle/en/stable-2.5.0/features/checks.html#overriding-quality-checks 20:10 drojf it looked easy in the mail ;) 20:11 rangi cait: bgkriegel is TM eh? 20:11 cait yep 20:11 jcamins rangi: indeed. 20:11 drojf but i am not responsible for that server. it's always easy if you just have to nag somebody :P 20:11 cait but not sure if he had time to take a look at the server and the internals yet 20:11 pianohacker And thus the reasoning behind the mute key in GMail and my great love for it :P 20:11 rangi soon as i get the .po files for 3.10.6 nad 3.8.13 20:11 rangi he should be able to try if he wants 20:11 cait bgkriegel bgkriegel bgkriegel 20:11 * cait tries summoning :P 20:11 jcamins pianohacker: wait, there's a *key* for mute in GMail? 20:12 rangi 2.5.0 does look awesome 20:12 jcamins tirtmi 20:12 cait jcamins: ? 20:12 rangi 2.5.1 is scheduled for 6 montsh 20:12 drojf bgkriegel bgkriegel bgkriegel 20:12 * drojf tries to help 20:12 rangi they are copying us :-) *grin* 20:12 jcamins cait: pianohacker said there was a key. 20:12 cait drojf: apertium? http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/pootle/en/stable-2.5.0/features/machine_translation.html#available-machine-translation-services 20:13 drojf cait: yay! 20:13 rangi he's in peru at the moment iirc 20:13 rangi training koha users 20:14 rangi koha_southish_america++ 20:14 cait bgkriegel++ :) 20:14 jcamins http://www.kino-teatr.ru/kino/movie/sov/8476/annot/ <-- I would like the OPAC to do this. 20:14 jcamins (mouse over the names) 20:15 rangi cool 20:15 druthb rangi: ready to retire as RMaint? 20:15 druthb ;-) 20:15 rangi jcamins: do they store images as part of VIAF ? 20:15 rangi druthb: yes indeed! 20:16 * druthb is ready to finish her retirement as â„¢. 20:16 druthb Look for a pull req pair when I get home shortly. 20:16 rangi ok gotta go take kids to school 20:16 rangi thanks :) 20:16 cait cya later rangi 20:19 jcamins rangi: nope. :( 20:24 pianohacker jcamins: yep, m 20:25 jcamins pianohacker: nice! 20:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1194: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1194/ 20:25 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: prefer CheckVersion in updatedatabase.pl 20:26 jcamins This may delay my unsubscribing from koha-devel. 20:27 pianohacker hahahahaha 20:29 jcamins pianohacker: I actually previously announced that I was going to set koha-devel to NOMAIL tomorrow, due to the high volume of nonsense and low volume of non-bikeshed painting. 20:29 jcamins I am not sure if you have done the community a favor or a disservice. :P 20:30 cait hm and i didn't get tha tmail yet 20:31 cait pianohacker: what did you do? 20:31 jcamins cait: told me about 'm' so that I can just mute everthing rather than outright setting it to NOMAIL. 20:31 cait oh 20:31 cait what does mute mean? 20:32 jcamins (a button is too much work) 20:32 jcamins Just what it sounds like... hide the thread. 20:33 pianohacker future replies wont end up in your inbox 20:46 drojf i forgot, what's with the most important topic of version naming? 20:46 drojf or numbering 20:46 wahanui i guess numbering is confusing me 20:51 drojf ah, postponed to next meeting 21:10 cait hm we have about 700 bugs in pushed to master/pushed to stable now 21:10 cait some from last release - 2012 21:18 cait hi BobB 21:19 drojf "It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013" 21:19 drojf does koha run on hurd? 21:19 jcamins If you recompile Zebra for it, probably. 21:19 pianohacker I imagine the question is more "does zebra/mysql/perl/our five quadrillion dependencies run on hurd" 21:20 pianohacker aaaaaaand yeah, zebra's going to be the worst 21:20 pianohacker just because it's zebra 21:21 pianohacker oh wow 21:22 drojf ha. i'll just use nozebra ^^ 21:22 wizzyrea err 21:22 wizzyrea nozebra is deprecated 21:23 wizzyrea your outcomes will be less than good I think. 21:23 pianohacker i didnt realize anyone had bothered to deprecate it 21:23 wizzyrea re: numbering, I think we are going to keep Pi, and start big number incrementing afterwards 21:24 wizzyrea so release 3.14, then 4, 5, 6 etc 21:24 wizzyrea maybe we'll skip four and 5 - not sure. 21:24 pianohacker figured the first search attempt with more than ~1000 bibs would cure anyone's desire to use it 21:24 wizzyrea 4 & 5 could create confusion with the other not-koha 21:25 pianohacker oh, we're pulling a chrome? 21:25 wizzyrea that's the proposal 21:25 magnuse jcamins: http://esme.priv.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=4 21:25 * wizzyrea would be content to just skip all the way to 10 21:25 wizzyrea and start there. 21:25 wizzyrea (all that above makes it sound like I really have a strong opinion - I don't. Whatever will be fine by me) 21:25 Dyrcona Sounds more like a Slackware to me.... ;) 21:26 pianohacker if only for the release after 21:26 pianohacker koha: spinal tap edition 21:26 wizzyrea ^.^ 21:26 jcamins magnuse: a nice start! 21:27 magnuse have fun #koha! 21:28 jcamins I guess we have a meeting in two weeks. 21:28 jcamins I think maybe I'll miss it. 21:33 pianohacker uh oh 21:40 pianohacker "but sir, why not just make a Koha that's just as fast, and call that Koha 10?" 21:40 pianohacker "... but this one goes up to eleven" 21:41 jcamins lol 21:41 jcamins Exactly. 21:41 jcamins You know what? It's time to go home. 21:41 jcamins Bye. 21:43 pianohacker bye jcamins 21:43 drojf wizzyrea: i know about nozebra. i'll just use a version old enough ;) 21:43 drojf also, what about koha 3000? :D 21:44 pianohacker only if we switch to python 22:05 mtompset Switch to python?! That would be a truly fundamental change. 22:09 rambutan1 Please re-write Koha in Python or Ada. See perl errors: http://paste.koha-community.org/22 22:10 wizzyrea some of those searches are humorous 22:10 rambutan1 clearly perl ain't no good for nothin' 22:10 wizzyrea dfghtgvyjkfyjuyjktrtv 22:12 rambutan1 If a programming language can't even self-initialize variables.... 22:12 cait not sure we can blame perl for us programming badly 22:12 wizzyrea ^ 22:12 cait rambutan1: it can and it does 22:12 cait or your search wouldn't work i gues 22:12 cait s 22:12 cait it just warns 22:15 wizzyrea popcorn? 22:15 wahanui popcorn is a vital part of any work day. 22:15 wizzyrea popcorn is also http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jon-stewart-popcorn11.gif 22:15 wahanui okay, wizzyrea. 22:15 wizzyrea popcorn? 22:15 wahanui i heard popcorn was http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/jon-stewart-popcorn11.gif 22:17 wizzyrea confetti is also http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 22:17 wahanui okay, wizzyrea. 22:18 pianohacker popcorn _and_ confetti? 22:18 pianohacker :( 22:18 cait why looking so sad? 22:19 pianohacker was hoping for both... 22:19 pianohacker what happened to rhcl, anyway? 22:23 YoungPublicLibrarian Hello? 22:23 wahanui somebody said Hello was it necessary to make hold limit nil in system preference if it is already set in circulation privilege different for different users group 22:24 pianohacker hah, bot's being overeager 22:24 pianohacker hi, YoungPublicLibrarian 22:25 YoungPublicLibrarian Is there anyone on that is versed in writing reports for koha? 22:25 wizzyrea ask? 22:25 wahanui Don't ask to ask, just ask. 22:25 wizzyrea :) 22:26 YoungPublicLibrarian Yes, well... Asking a room that knows nothing about what you're asking is somewhat counter productive... 22:27 pianohacker well, of course 22:27 wizzyrea no seriously, go ahead. 22:27 pianohacker and we do appreciate that 22:27 pianohacker but we're such a small community that if we don't know the answer we know who does 22:27 wizzyrea has anybody experienced processing returns that doesn't remove the reserve from the list of reserves? 22:28 wizzyrea I have someone reporting that and it's rather mystifying. 22:28 eythian hi 22:28 wahanui niihau, eythian 22:28 pianohacker hi eythian 22:29 eythian jcamins: that'll be the second time someone pointed out muting threads to you then :) 22:29 YoungPublicLibrarian I was wondering if there is a way to write a report to display all items hidden from the OPAC by a specific branch? 22:30 wizzyrea that should be possible 22:30 wizzyrea how are you hiding them? 22:32 pianohacker ohh man, just dug through email 22:32 eythian hi papa 22:32 pianohacker gmcharlt++ 22:32 wizzyrea ikr 22:32 pianohacker gmcharlt: I love you so much for fixing that typo you don't even know 22:33 * wizzyrea too 22:33 pianohacker I care about spelling more than I should and that bugged me _so_ _much_ while working on sysprefs 22:33 wizzyrea i don't think it was a typo 22:33 wizzyrea I think it was a frenchism 22:33 YoungPublicLibrarian There is a selection list in the cataloguers window that an option is "Hidden from OPAC" That is how they are hidden. 22:35 wizzyrea you feelin alright you're usually cheerier than this. :/ 22:35 wizzyrea not that you have to be cheerful mind you. 22:35 gmcharlt pianohacker: next thing to tackle... my nemesis, wthdrawn! 22:35 pianohacker hehehe 22:35 pianohacker wizzyrea: ? 22:36 wizzyrea items = biblio or items = item 22:37 YoungPublicLibrarian The old cataloguer had hidden each issue of all our magazines and the new cataloguer wants a list of all hidden items to see what else was hidden from OPAC. That's what I need the report for, but I couldn't find any references to the hidden from OPAC field in the scheme or library. 22:37 * eythian points gmcharlt in the direction of the 'creat' system call, and the 'referer' HTTP header. 22:38 gmcharlt heh 22:40 YoungPublicLibrarian Anyone have any ideas? 22:40 eythian YoungPublicLibrarian: where is the option? is it on the biblio or item level? 22:40 wizzyrea in edit record or edit items? 22:41 wizzyrea ha jinx 22:41 * eythian knows nothing about "hidden from opac" but could probably make an educated guess with more information. 22:41 wizzyrea same 22:41 pianohacker It sounds like an addition to, of all things, the wthdrawn authorized values 22:42 YoungPublicLibrarian Lol, if I was the cataloguer I would know the answers. I do believe its under item level and edit record. But I'm not sure. I do know the field is "c-shelving location:" 22:43 wizzyrea easy enough then 22:43 gmcharlt YoungPublicLibrarian: is there anything set in the OpacHiddenItems system preference? 22:43 wizzyrea she just wants to know what they are I think 22:44 YoungPublicLibrarian That I have no idea about, gmcharlt. Wizzyrea is correct. 22:44 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Bibs_Marked_On_Order 22:44 wizzyrea it'll be like this 22:44 wizzyrea but instead of items.notforloan it'll be... 22:45 wizzyrea items.location = whatever your value is 22:45 wizzyrea which you can find in the authorised value definitions 22:45 wizzyrea and you can add a limit for branch 22:45 wizzyrea which there are many recipes for in the library 22:46 YoungPublicLibrarian Okay. I'll try that and come back in a few days if I need more help. Thank you all so much! 22:46 wizzyrea good luck 22:51 YoungPublicLibrarian Hmmm, guess I need help sooner than I thought... How would I find the value of the item.location for the report? Would it say in the cataloguer area when editing the items? 22:51 jcamins eythian: I knew about muting... what I did not realize was that there was a keyboard shortcut. 22:52 eythian what MUA do you use? 22:52 jcamins Just gmail. 22:52 wizzyrea which you can find in the authorised value definitions -> more -> administration -> authorised value -> loc 22:52 eythian ah OK. 22:53 YoungPublicLibrarian Umm... You lost me. Where would the authorized value definitions be? On the scheme? 22:54 eythian YoungPublicLibrarian: in the staff client. 22:55 wizzyrea either click the giant "Administration" button -> Authorized values 22:55 wizzyrea or click More -> Administration -> Authorized Values 22:56 YoungPublicLibrarian Ah, crap... I'll have to work with my director on that then. I'm not allowed to have that level of control. 22:56 wizzyrea bother. 22:56 wizzyrea you can run reports though? 22:58 YoungPublicLibrarian Nope, I have a contact that can. As tech support I'm not trusted with those kind of privileges. :/ 22:58 wizzyrea O.o 22:58 eythian that does kinda mean you can't do support... 22:59 pianohacker yeah, normally tech support has rather high privileges 22:59 pianohacker otherwise solving issues like this is a game of telephone that just ends painfully for everyone 22:59 wizzyrea ^^ 22:59 YoungPublicLibrarian So I write up the reports, have my contact enter the report, I test it, make changes to the text file, have my contact repost the report and so on... It's rather tiresome... 23:00 pianohacker yeah, sounds like it 23:01 YoungPublicLibrarian Unfortunately, because I'm young and know more, tech wise, than my director I am not trusted with any kind of privileges for the network or system... Everything has to go through the director while she's right there. No matter how small... 23:02 pianohacker ahhhhhh, YoungPublicLibrarian, I sympathize more than you could know 23:02 wizzyrea hm. stink 23:03 pianohacker was in a similar situation at my first job, though my barriers had different names :) 23:04 YoungPublicLibrarian Yeah... But oh well. You do what you can... 23:05 YoungPublicLibrarian When my director gets back from vacation I'll get with her and try to find the correct value... 23:05 eythian "We do what we must because we can"? 23:05 pianohacker yup. the true sign of craziness is sticking with libraries despite the people that work in them, including ourselves 23:06 YoungPublicLibrarian Ain't that the truth... 23:10 YoungPublicLibrarian Thank you to everyone that helped me out. I really appreciate it. I know just enough about Koha and SQL to get me into trouble but not enough to do what I want all the time... 23:11 pianohacker not a problem 23:11 pianohacker best of luck 23:13 YoungPublicLibrarian Have a good day everyone! Later.