Time Nick Message 23:43 dcook Hmm preliminary schedule up, eh? 23:34 rangi or edit a page making a link to the page you want to create 23:33 rangi do a search for the page you want to create 23:33 tcohen how can I create a page on the wiki? 23:32 pianohacker hi dcook! 23:26 dcook Don't know if we've met before, pianohacker, but glad to hear you'll be at ByWater for the summer :) 23:24 pianohacker morning 23:24 dcook morning #koha 23:23 wahanui I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS 23:23 huginn melia: The operation succeeded. 23:23 melia @later tell oleonard hey there's a new patch for bug 2720, if you have a chance to test that one. hopefully it addresses the problems in your testing feedback. thank you!! :) 23:22 pianohacker huh 23:22 wahanui pianohacker, I didn't have anything matching succeeded 23:22 pianohacker wahanui: forget succeeded 23:21 wahanui I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS 23:21 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 23:21 bag @later tell melia HI 23:12 tcohen $(find . -name '*.xml') 23:12 tcohen instead of debian/docs smth like 23:11 tcohen should we generalize that script? 23:11 tcohen i mean, only for debian/docs 23:11 tcohen we dont 23:10 gmcharlt xmllint --noout foo.xml 23:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #1189 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 23:10 rangi thats how i test kohadocs 23:10 rangi xmllint is a good test 23:10 rangi hmm perhaps not 23:09 rangi in xt 23:08 tcohen do we have tests for XML validity? 23:04 wahanui it has been said that gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. 23:04 tcohen ooook gmcharlt 23:03 gmcharlt tcohen: now *this* patch series, you don't get to cherry-pick :) 23:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 8215: (followup) avoid spurious warning in Apache log <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=281448f84e416d5fb925d096c21b1f60421a316f> / bug 8215: DBRev 3.13.00.001 for course reserves <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c199cc6ef91b2b5f52c3c11e788b2d53c27e0b59> / bug 8215: (followup) remove extraneous underscore in template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p= 22:57 rangi true 22:57 tcohen but, it could be a basis for divergence imo, at least the second patch 22:56 rangi not really an enhancement more a bug fix imho 22:56 tcohen minor priority 22:56 rangi but its your call :) 22:56 rangi id make that a minor 22:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9508 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , the dateformat variable is not standardized in template files 22:56 tcohen bug 9508is marked as enh 22:56 rangi its only deprecated features, that are no longer in master, that might have a bug in older versions 22:55 rangi or only in master 22:55 rangi but usually the bugs occur in both 22:55 rangi normally what happnes the more it diverges, is patches need to be rebased 22:55 rangi its quite rare 22:54 rangi *nod* 22:54 tcohen yes, and 3.12-specific bugs will arise once master has diverged a bit more I guess 22:53 rangi i find if you keep up with master its not too bad 22:53 rangi yep well done :) 22:53 tcohen I pushed some trivial patches already, have u seen? 22:53 rangi and then have filters to highlight any mail from the bugs list that mentions 3.10.x etc 22:53 tcohen ok 22:52 rangi i just watch the master commit log 22:52 rangi oh 22:51 tcohen oh, I want to get a list of the bugs I should pay attention for the 3.12.x maintenance task 22:50 rangi for? 22:49 tcohen do u have a saved searhc I could follow rangi? 22:07 rangi they dont often get marked as a version, unless the bug isnt on master as well 22:07 tcohen tus=Signed%20Off&bug_status=Passed%20QA&bug_status=Pushed%20for%20QA&bug_status=Failed%20QA&bug_status=Patch%20doesn%27t%20apply&version=3.12&f5=short_desc&f6=status_whiteboard&v2=authorities&f7=content&product=Koha 22:07 tcohen http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?v4=authorities&o5=substring&f1=OP&o7=matches&v6=authorities&o3=substring&list_id=62361&f8=CP&f0=OP&v3=authorities&o6=substring&o2=substring&f9=CP&v7=%22authorities%22&f4=alias&v5=authorities&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=component&o4=substring&f2=product&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=In%20Discussion&bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&bug_sta 22:07 tcohen or maybe my search is wrong: 22:07 tcohen hmm, is it ok that there are no bugs marked as "3.12"? 21:15 DisneyDave Tcohen, not sure but the SQL dump was 2.3 GB 21:14 DisneyDave Thanks Jcamins 21:12 tcohen do u have a big DB DisneyDave ? 21:11 drojf cait: probably because they don't have the datenautobahn in the us :D 21:11 jcamins DisneyDave: you should not, no. 21:11 cait drojf: but I can't imagine a library trying to do that in Germany :) 21:10 DisneyDave After the schema migration, do I need to reindex Zebra? 21:10 cait drojf: it still seems to be popular in US 21:07 jcamins (not really) 21:07 jcamins drojf: well, they offer a pulse dialing service... 21:06 drojf from the itiva website 21:06 drojf "We’ve re-written the book on how libraries and patrons communicate." i wonder in what year they came up with that :D 21:01 drojf tcohen: yeah i am reading that :) 21:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4246 enhancement, P4, ---, koha.sekjal, RESOLVED FIXED, Koha support for Itiva Talking Tech phone notification service 21:00 tcohen bug 4246 20:59 drojf jcamins: interesting, i did not know that. i don't think i ever heard of itiva 20:59 jcamins DisneyDave: we'd love to! 20:57 jcamins Which is... sort of like a phone call. 20:56 jcamins drojf: we have Itiva. 20:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9082 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , option to notify librarians that i prefer phone calls 20:56 drojf bug 9082 does not look like we have that 20:56 jcamins Last time I upgraded from 3.6.x to 3.10.x it took ~3 hrs to run. 20:56 DisneyDave Thanks jcamins. come visit. Nicole did. 20:56 jcamins That's why I suggested the ride in the amusement park portion of WDW. 20:56 jcamins DisneyDave: it'll take a while. 20:56 drojf "An overview of how we use telephone notifications with Koha." we have telephone notifications? like… autodialing? 20:55 DisneyDave Thanks again. We are doing the schema migration. Seems to be taking a while. Is there any time estimate? I thought itd be fast. 20:50 jcamins bag: how many speakers are needed for the talk on testing? 20:47 DisneyDave . 20:46 DisneyDave I'll use better deoderant tomorrow 20:45 jcamins Hehe. Five minutes before you arrived. 20:45 DisneyDave Nicole left? Must have been something I said? 20:45 DisneyDave Once we get this aligned 20:45 DisneyDave We will upgrade to 3.12 soon 20:44 jcamins She is not. She left about fifteen minutes ago. 20:44 jcamins You can tell your bosses that Koha's former RM instructed you to take a break and enjoy the amusement park if you'd like. 20:44 tcohen you should also know that 3.12 is awesome DisneyDave 20:44 DisneyDave Is Nicole on? 20:44 wizzyrea :) 20:44 jcamins :D 20:44 DisneyDave and I finally have someone to help 20:43 DisneyDave I love Koha 20:43 DisneyDave BTW you all rock 20:43 DisneyDave Zebra is done - we are running schema now 20:43 jcamins Yeah, so follow my three-step process and you'll be good to go. 20:42 DisneyDave Dev version: 3.09.00.004 20:42 cait if you can access that? 20:42 jcamins cait: not if they're in maintenance mode. 20:42 cait your about koha page would show the version 20:42 jcamins Hmmm... you could check in MySQL. But, when did you install it? 20:42 DisneyDave Will we need to redo zebra after schema upgrade? 20:41 DisneyDave we are not sure of version prior. How can we tell? 20:41 jcamins DisneyDave: you were on 3.6 before, right? 20:41 tcohen koha-upgrade-to-3.4 20:41 jcamins Actually, not so challenging, you may have gathered. :) 20:40 DisneyDave go to disneykoha.cloudapp.net to see error 20:40 jcamins It's very challenging... step 1: run `sudo koha-upgrade-schema [your-installation-name]`. Step 2: go enjoy a ride at the amusement park. Step 3: regretfully go back to work on your upgraded installation. 20:39 jcamins Packages are awesome. 20:39 jcamins \o/ 20:39 DisneyDave to install the new one, yes we used packages 20:39 jcamins DisneyDave: did you use the packages? 20:39 DisneyDave Come visit WDW 20:38 wahanui i guess jcamins is insane. 20:38 DisneyDave Hey jcamins! 20:38 DisneyDave How do we fix the schema 20:38 DisneyDave and imported it into 3.10 20:38 DisneyDave We copied the MYSQL dump from the old installaton 20:38 jcamins DisneyDave: careful. With that nick people might think that you work at Disney. :) (yes, I know you do) 20:37 DisneyDave We just installed a fresh version of 3.10 20:36 cait hi DisneyDave 20:36 DisneyDave Hello 20:31 nengard and now i head out for the day 20:30 nengard preliminary kohacon program: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_Program 20:29 jcamins (because I had rated it not started it) 20:28 jcamins So I rated it, and there was no music. 20:28 jcamins Then I decided I wanted to listen to more music. 20:28 maximep good! 20:28 jcamins I double clicked an MP3 and it opened. 20:28 jcamins maximep: I don't, actually. 20:28 maximep why would u want to listen to music un itunes :P 20:27 jcamins Apparently that's considered more probable than me wanting to listen to said music. 20:26 jcamins What possible reason could there be for me wanting to rate my own music in iTunes? 19:57 tcohen happy birthday rangi! 19:57 tcohen heh 19:56 oleonard A belated happy birthday to you rangi 19:56 jcamins tcohen: I'd have to have some idea what the heck that does before I could document it, and my goal was actually just to find code to delete. 19:56 jcamins tcohen: ha! 19:55 * tcohen thinks its nice to see jcamins volunteer for documenting now he has spare time :-P 19:51 jcamins That's all. 19:51 jcamins oleonard: it's really hard to figure out what our goal was. 19:51 oleonard Are you seeing a problem jcamins? 19:47 jcamins oleonard: that's what I was thinking it might be too. 19:47 oleonard jcamins: I think it means a main body <div> with no sidebar 19:45 oleonard It's one of the various grid definitions, but I don't recall off the top of my head what it does 19:45 pianohacker *shiver* 19:45 * jcamins makes the sign agains the evil eye... circ/circulation.tt. 19:44 drojf like the yui-tai 19:44 oleonard Where do you see it jcamins? 19:44 drojf a fancy cocktail? 19:44 rangi when are you doing the move ryanlee ? 19:44 jcamins oleonard: any idea what yui-t7 is? 19:43 jcamins yui-- 19:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7883 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Pushed to Master , save and continue editing 19:35 jenkins_koha Liz Rea: Bug 7883 - Save and continue editing for cataloging 19:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1188: FIXED in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1188/ 19:35 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 19:13 jcamins smeagol\: oh, I thought you were asking about installing Koha itself. Naturally you're going to need to be root or have root privileges to install the dependencies. 19:12 smeagol\ jcamins\indexdata.list 19:07 jcamins smeagol\: BTW, what is index.list? 19:00 jcamins That's not really a Koha issue so much as a question of how you administer your servers. No need to change that. 19:00 cait oleonard: it's very nice! 19:00 jcamins smeagol\: you can do it however you'd like. I only ever use sudo. 18:59 smeagol\ Can i put myself in root group to do a git install, or should I do it as sudoer, if I don't, i can't edit index.list or any root owned file? 18:55 jcamins pianohacker++ 18:55 jcamins lol 18:55 cait gmcharlt: you make me use the dictionary a lot :) guess new RM = new vocabulary :) 18:54 cait :) 18:54 gmcharlt also, generally speaking patches aren't going to get bounced just because of trivial merge conflicts with updatedatabase.pl -- dealing wth those is one of my jobs 18:54 pianohacker and yeah, I got the .pref file ;) 18:54 gmcharlt pianohacker++ 18:53 pianohacker contension: disagreements on the running of conventions? 18:53 gmcharlt contention, even 18:53 gmcharlt and DB updates in general ... are still a point of contension 18:53 cait but you of all people will know that :) 18:53 cait also add it to the right .pref file ;) 18:53 gmcharlt pianohacker: yep, still XXX 18:53 cait yes still XXX 18:52 pianohacker Plus, are we still doing the trick of using XXX for the rev number and letting the RM assign it? 18:52 pianohacker anyway. Okay. Saw some syspref additions through atomicupdates, is there a reason we aren't using it? 18:51 pianohacker stop, updatedatabase.pl, stop! 18:51 gmcharlt ryanlee: OK, and now it (the DNS manager) is bending to my will 18:50 oleonard Go and catch it wahanui 18:50 wahanui hmmm... updatedatabase.pl is still running. 18:50 oleonard updatedatabase.pl 18:50 pianohacker What's the usual way to add a systempreference these days? atomicupdate or updatedatabase.pl? 18:50 smeagol\ ok thanks, i'll install as myself from a terminal and not a root prompt, right? 18:48 maximep yeah, nice 18:48 drojf oleonard: that is really cool 18:47 jcamins oleonard++ # nice! 18:46 gmcharlt ryanlee: might need to hold off for a bit -- the web management interface for the DNS service appears to be FUBAR at the moment 18:46 oleonard Progress on the Bootstrap theme's responsiveness: http://screencast.com/t/mYxu11cun 18:44 jcamins I always give myself (ALL) ALL, but in fact you shouldn't need any sudo privileges to develop for Koha using Apache. 18:42 smeagol\ ok, what priviledges should i give me? 18:40 jcamins You don't want to be leaving a root terminal around. 18:40 jcamins smeagol\: the user you're going to be developing as. 18:39 smeagol\ ok, who should i install as then. It doesn't really say in install.debian unless i missed it. 18:39 smeagol\ drojf\ yes, a git installation, sorry 18:37 ryanlee gmcharlt, So the move can be made anytime between now and then. 18:36 ryanlee gmcharlt, If that works for you, that is, the old server is probably going to be shut down at the end of next week. 18:36 ryanlee gmcharlt, I see, cool. I'm going to move the site files today probably after I give the website a once over to make sure everything is in order. 18:36 jcamins smeagol\: you _can_ install as root, but if you're talking about a git installation, please don't. 18:35 gmcharlt can you advise what timeframe you're looking at for the server move? 18:34 gmcharlt ryanlee: I'm also a DNS admin for that domain 18:34 wahanui I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS 18:34 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 18:34 pianohacker @later tell rangi "11:32 AM PST < ryanlee> Moving the website (koha-community.org) to a new server, need the domain name pointed at its IP." 18:34 * oleonard looks around and whispers, "He's probably watching us now!" 18:34 pianohacker Probably better to leave him a note, like so: 18:34 drojf smeagol\: do you mean a git installation? 18:33 ryanlee pianohacker, you got rangi's Email address? 18:33 gmcharlt bshum: tell him we're all waving at him 18:33 bshum Random aside, I'm at PGCon (PostgreSQL conference) and the guy sitting next to me migrated his local library from Follett to Koha couple years back. Small world that even at a DB conf I can manage to sit next to other folks who works with libraries. 18:33 smeagol\ Hi, i'm installing a koha dev version. Can I install as root, or should i install as another user? 18:32 ryanlee Lol, so thought I'd come here. 18:32 ryanlee Emailed the tech contact on the WHOIS record but got no reply. 18:32 ryanlee Moving the website to a new server, need the domain name pointed at its IP. 18:31 pianohacker why do you ask? 18:31 pianohacker (on general principle) 18:31 pianohacker rangi++ 18:31 jcamins Yeah, rangi takes care of it. 18:30 ryanlee Does anyone know who manages the domain name: koha-community.org? 18:29 ryanlee Got a question for you guys. 18:29 pianohacker hi ryan 18:28 ryanlee Hey all, this is Ryan from Northeast Kansas Library System. 18:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1188 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1185 1 day 1 hr ago) 18:18 gmcharlt oleonard++ 18:18 cait lol 18:18 oleonard Whoops. 18:18 oleonard jcamins: Olive oil gums up my joints 18:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7883 - Save and continue editing for cataloging <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=da6f7fbb2a176a7194c122a3eeb8d5844fabbc86> 18:17 jcamins oleonard: what is your position on mozzarella marinated in olive oil and herbs? 18:17 * jcamins proffers a foolproof test: 18:16 drojf heh 18:16 oleonard The tough part is to throw in some stupid mistakes, get some patches failed often enough. 18:15 cait the speed of his patch writing at least suggests a super human 18:15 cait :) 18:14 gmcharlt oleonard: yeah, I think a higher level of proof is needed to show that you're not just an excellent CSS-emitting machine ;) 18:13 oleonard Of course that's just the kind of thing a deceptive chatbot would say 18:12 drojf lol 18:11 oleonard Good evening from a real human 18:11 drojf good evening from a real computer 18:08 jcamins (I saw an announcement about a new position several weeks or months ago and made a mental note to say something congratulatory about it) 18:07 * jcamins waves to hankbank and offers (much-) belated congratulations on his library's expansion. 18:05 cait gmcharlt++ lots of follow ups :) 17:58 cait I need to get some other things done this week - maybe i can take a look at the weenend 17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add Course Reserves 17:58 * gmcharlt sends up the QA alert -- bug 8215 (course reserves) is really close to being ready for merge into master 17:50 drojf uh the font suddenly grew 17:47 zzzzzzz webchat 17:47 zzzzzzz woah,sebchat is ridiculous on my phone 17:43 cait sorry that I can't help 17:41 seneca thanks! 17:41 seneca OK - will do, just wanted to see if anyone knew more details about that bug... it seemed not-quite-resolved in the thread 17:40 cait i haven't read about this particular problem - i would suggest you open a new bug on bugzilla 17:40 seneca the bug thread I linked to sounds like it was the same symptom, but there seemed to be some question as to the nature of the issue 17:39 seneca additionally, a regular search for say, "turtles," will return this book and have the availability correct, so it's just the tag cloud query that is incorrect, and only for some records 17:38 seneca clicking through on hat entry shows the correct availability, but the tag cloud results don't 17:38 cait have you tried reindexing? 17:38 cait i see it happens for the lemonade war 17:38 seneca yeah, say for "Turtle in Paradise" 17:38 cait but it only happens for some 17:38 cait hm i see 17:37 seneca then go to the last of the three result pages... 17:37 cait seneca: what exactly happened? I can see the availability just fine 17:37 seneca if you go to our tag cloud and choose the vacation tag, for example 17:37 seneca cait, we didn't notice this happening in alignment with a certain update 17:36 * druthb chuckles 17:36 jcamins Ayup. I could get used to this. 17:36 cait lol 17:36 jcamins Ahhh... life is good when you're not RM. 17:35 cait hm not sure I see the problem in your catalog 17:34 cait did you do an update or something before it stopped working? 17:33 cait seneca: did it work before? 17:32 seneca in case anyone wants to see it first hand 17:32 seneca our site is at libs.mvschool.com 17:31 seneca that's the bug 17:31 seneca http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Bug-9516-New-Item-Availability-Data-missing-from-OPAC-tag-search-td5740600.html 17:31 seneca Hello everyone - we're running into a strange issue that may have something to do with a bug we've found a thread about, but I wanted to check with the experts: 17:02 druthb They frequently talked *about* men, without breaking the sprit of bechdel, IMO…crewmates, work, etc. But quite often, the episodes passed that test. 16:58 * oleonard was reminded of it when thinking about Janeway & 7 of 9 16:56 pianohacker I think at this point it's easier to keep a list of movies that pass bechdel than ones that fail it, unfortunately... 16:53 druthb There were only a couple of women who were more than bit-parts *at all*, and I don't recall them interacting much at all. 16:52 druthb No, I don't believe it did. 16:52 * druthb thinks. 16:51 oleonard "Into Darkness" didn't exactly pass the Bechdel test did it? 16:49 druthb Yes, although Seven is *much* less of a serious character. The comedic relief of Data, in a catsuit to make the fanboys drooool. (Well, fair 'nuf. And fangirls.) But Janeway was an awesome captain, given the screwy situations. 16:47 pianohacker druthb: Even just having janeway and 7 of 9 in the same series makes for an interesting combo :) 16:39 druthb (Disclaimer: I'm in a unique position, having seen VOY through two sets of eyes, and it's *radically* different through a woman's lens. So I'm biased about such matters.) 16:38 druthb Definitely. Uhura is less aloof and prissy than she was in TOS, but it's still very 60's-ish. 16:38 pianohacker yeah, they definitely brought that forward, especially for Uhura and (Alice Eve) 16:36 druthb the new films, while rearranging the universe…have one thing in common with TOS that seems to irk some women. Instead of the strong, competent women of DS9 and VOY and ENT, we're seeing very TOSsy, here-I-am-in-a-short-skirt-save-me-Jim-Kirk women. 16:32 pianohacker gotcha 16:32 oleonard pianohacker: I'm grumpy about Abrams' new movies. Makes me want to go back and watch the original series instead. 16:30 pianohacker oleonard: Which series? 16:19 druthb And in a room full of Unix/Linux/Mac geeks, watching the previews system crash and show a *windows* error was *priceless* 16:19 * oleonard is a Star Trek curmudgeon 16:19 druthb indeed. 16:19 pianohacker ... which was quite good 16:18 druthb …and the boss-man occasionally does nice things for us. Last Friday, he bought out a whole 7:00PM showing of the new Star Trek film for us. 16:17 druthb Standing desks, if you want 'em... 16:17 druthb A few folks do not have desks, but have chosen sofas, or (in one case) a honkin' big conference table. 16:16 oleonard Maybe not so good for after-lunch productivity, unless they offer siesta couches too? 16:16 druthb Srsly. Snacks, everyone equipped with dual monitors that wants 'em, with *nice* headphones. 16:16 oleonard Swank. 16:15 druthb One of the many benefits at cPanel. Daily catered lunch 16:15 pianohacker that sounds really good 16:15 druthb mmmm…Jamaican buffet…. 16:12 druthb Hi, pianohacker! :) 16:12 pianohacker good morning druthb 16:12 druthb mornin'. 16:11 melia morning druthb :) 16:11 * druthb blames melia, today. 16:11 wahanui thanks druthb :) 16:11 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie 16:11 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, druthb 16:11 druthb awesome! 16:07 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, pianohacker 16:07 pianohacker Rafael_br: okay, awesome. 16:07 Rafael_br pianohacker: Yes, it is asking me the language. For now I have only en. I will read the docs about installing other languages 16:06 pianohacker Rafael_br: Did the installer open up after you logged in? 16:06 pianohacker hahahaha 16:06 oleonard pianohacker: Thinking of updating the web installer interface perhaps? ;) 16:05 Rafael_br Thanks a lot! I can go lunch happily. I will be here frequently this days... I am setting up a small library in Brasil for a Educational Workers Center.. I also hope to contribute with translation t portuguese! 16:04 pianohacker oleonard: In other, unrelated news: http://codepen.io/TimPietrusky/pen/eHGfj 16:03 Rafael_br maybe this step is missing in ubuntu installer wiki 16:03 pianohacker Rafael_br: the opac will be on 80, yes 16:03 Rafael_br so my admin interface is in 8080. And after I run the web installer client will access in 80, right? 16:03 Rafael_br pianohacker: It worked, I get a login dialog 16:02 Rafael_br pianohacker: Thanks 16:01 pianohacker Rafael_br: add Listen 8080 to /etc/apache/ports.conf ,then restart apache 16:01 Rafael_br netstat -ntl show me no listening in 8080 16:00 Rafael_br pianohacker: It is not listening in 8080 16:00 Rafael_br pianohacker: No response. 16:00 pianohacker thanks wahanui 15:59 pianohacker Rafael_br: Try going to http://localhost:8080/ 15:59 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org 15:59 oleonard paste? 15:59 oleonard Just ask! 15:59 pianohacker oleonard: Thanks, I was trying to find that 15:58 oleonard pianohacker: We also have http://paste.koha-community.org :) 15:58 Rafael_br pianohacker: http://pastebin.com/FVC6xkD4 15:57 Rafael_br pianohacker: Yes, 1 sec 15:56 wahanui jcamins: that doesn't look right 15:56 jcamins Or change the port. 15:56 pianohacker Rafael_br: Any chance you could post /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/biblioteca on pastebin.com ? 15:56 jcamins Right. 15:55 Rafael_br jcamins: Ok.. But I have no domain registered. So I just cheat tweaking hosts file. 15:55 jcamins No, just birtual host configuration. 15:55 Rafael_br jcamins: Ok, I will resume this step I skipped. Thanks a lot everyone. I think everything will be ok now 15:54 Rafael_br jcamins: I see.. And apache rewrite need dns to take care of it, tight? 15:54 jcamins Apache doesn't know which you want. 15:54 jcamins You have two sites on tje same port and same IP. 15:54 Rafael_br jcamins: I see, maybe because of rewrite modules? Ok, I will configure DNS 15:53 jcamins That doesn't work. 15:53 Rafael_br jcamins: No because I am ok with using it from 127.0.0.1:80 for now 15:53 jcamins And you set up DNS? 15:52 Rafael_br INTRAPORT="80" # TCP listening port for the administration interface 15:52 Rafael_br oleonard: I used the /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf exampled in ubuntu installation wiki. 15:51 oleonard Rafael_br: Yes, if you configured the staff interface to run on :80. Usually that's the port the OPAC runs on. 15:51 jcamins My patch failed qa and I didn't care enough. 15:51 jcamins Yes. Hence the DEBUG guess. 15:51 Rafael_br Maybe this is what I got wrong 15:50 Rafael_br oleonard: But to run the webinstaller I have to access the webinterface in,localhost:80 right? 15:50 jcamins Right, because you can't gwt ti the installer. 15:50 pianohacker jcamins: Does that cause the installer to try to select from the db before it's ready? 15:50 oleonard Rafael_br: If the web installer hasn't run there won't be any tables yet 15:50 Rafael_br the database seems to be empty 15:49 jcamins oleonard, no, still waitinfg on tje check. 15:49 Rafael_br hum, no tables created 15:49 Rafael_br mysql> show tables from koha_biblioteca; Empty set (0.00 sec) 15:49 jcamins Somehow tje DEBUG environment variablw is set. 15:48 gaetan_B bye ! 15:46 pianohacker np 15:45 Rafael_br pianohacker: will log in sql. Sorry did not see your suggestion 15:45 oleonard jcamins is on a Caribbean beach sipping piña coladas after receiving his RM bonus check 15:44 Rafael_br jcamins: you mean /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/biblioteca ? I can't find debug enabled here 15:44 * jcamins isn't really here though. 15:43 jcamins Disable DEBUG in your Apache host file. 15:42 Rafael_br But I cant access the web installer... Trying to reach localhost:80 gives me the first error 15:42 jcamins You need to go through the web installer. 15:42 pianohacker No, that should have worked 15:41 Rafael_br should I repeat : sudo koha-create --create-db biblioteca 15:41 pianohacker Would you mind logging into mysql and checking to see if that table exists and has contents? 15:41 pianohacker Rafael_br: Yes, it should be 15:40 Rafael_br I did the steps to create the koha instance in sql. Replacing library for biblioteca (liubray in portuguese). Now I see that this table was not created... Is this table created by the installer? 15:40 pianohacker Rafael_br: Hmm, it sounds like something went a bit funky while installing the database 15:39 Rafael_br maintenance.pl: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 317. 15:39 Rafael_br [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Tue May 21 12:28:37 2013] maintenance.pl: DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha_biblioteca.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 558. 15:39 Rafael_br pianohacker: in log, prior to the line I pasted I get 15:35 pianohacker Rafael_br: Is there anything else on screen or in your error logs? That error makes sense, but there's a number of things that could cause it 15:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' 15:33 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 6399 - tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' 15:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #43: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/43/ 15:30 reiveune bye 15:29 Rafael_br I googled this error, I found a bug, but with problems to create an order. But I have not been able to access the interface admin at all. 15:27 Rafael_br The only step I did not follow was to tweak trhe host file, because for now I am ok with using localhost:80 15:26 Rafael_br Is this a known issue? Should I downgrade to 3.10? 15:26 Rafael_br I am trying to install koha 3.12 in ubuntu 13.04 using the instructions in the wiki page. I have carefulled followed every step, but when I try to login to admin interface I get the following eror: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 2054. 15:26 pianohacker hello 15:25 Rafael_br Hi everyone. 15:17 pianohacker I can only imagine the browser hackery required to make it, though... 15:17 pianohacker that's very handy 15:15 oleonard I'm trying it here because I used it with success on another project 15:15 oleonard enquire.js lets you trigger JavaScript events based on media-query-like breakpoints 15:14 pianohacker that sounds quite interesting 15:14 pianohacker ooh 15:13 * oleonard is working right now with Modernizr + enquire.js to try to address some responsive layout issues with the new Bootstrap OPAC 15:11 oleonard Every time I think about how it might be used with Koha I go off on a tangent about some other JS issue 15:10 oleonard It was recommended to me but I don't know much about it yet 15:09 pianohacker oleonard: I've been experimenting a bit with require on a personal project, and we used require at the USGS. I quite like it 15:08 oleonard pianohacker: Have you used require.js/angular.js/something similar? 15:06 oleonard Hi pianohacker 15:01 pianohacker good morning 14:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #43 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10178 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 14:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10191 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , 2 option tags are not closed in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt 14:50 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10178 - Typos in plugins for 006 and 008 in MARC21 14:50 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10191: Close 2 option tags in unimarc_field_115a.tt and unimarc_field_116.tt 14:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #42: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/42/ 14:49 nengard i wouldn't have signed off if i had a problem with it 14:49 nengard oh, i'm not picky - as long as it get clarified I trust oleonard to choose how to do that 14:49 tcohen but doesn't add a tooltip :-D 14:49 tcohen yes, it clarifies the user on how to add tags 14:48 nengard I agree that we can do a follow up with adding that tip to other pages, but the patch is sound and fixes the problem 14:48 nengard yes ... i signed off on it :) 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6399 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , tooltip for tags that says 'separate by comma' 14:47 tcohen nengard: are u ok with the solution oleonard provided for bug 6399? 14:46 nengard HA 14:43 wahanui I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS 14:43 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 14:43 gmcharlt @later tell drojf hoarystable ? 14:43 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #65: "<wizzyrea_> koha doesn't make you pizza... it only makes you pizza metadata" (added by gmcharlt at 05:00 PM, March 02, 2010) 14:43 gmcharlt @quote random 14:27 drojf how does the repository work now? 3.12=squeeze, 3.10==oldstable… what about 3.8? 14:23 * tcohen found MGMT good background music for the Rmaint task 14:22 drojf maybe it has always been there and i kicked it out of my notes immediately 14:21 drojf *too 14:20 drojf now that i wanted to tell people "it's easy, just use this", i consider the page to confusing to do that 14:19 drojf i'm sure that wasn't on there when i prepared my workshop, around last december. unforunately i am too stupid to use the compare revisions thing 14:18 oleonard copypasta? 14:15 drojf why is there "When installing on Ubuntu Lucid, you will need to manually install these files first: "-stuff in the "Koha on debian squeeze"-wiki page? 14:14 nengard :p (is what i meant) 14:13 nengard :) 14:13 nengard hmm ... well jenkins is working, just not on the manual 14:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #42 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:07 nengard LOL 14:07 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 14:07 jenkins_koha oleonard did you mean me? Unknown command 'RTFM!' 14:07 oleonard jenkins_koha: RTFM! 14:06 nengard not a big deal, just curious 14:05 nengard anyone know why jenkins isn't checking the manual anymore? 14:05 nengard hehe 14:03 cait bbl 14:01 cait no idea, it seems it was always there, but we never noticed 14:01 nengard anyone know what 'flagged' means in terms of subfields in frameworks? 13:58 gerundio btw, it won't make it to 3.10.x either, right? 13:58 drojf true 13:57 gerundio anyhow, since it isn't going to make it to 3.8.x I'll have to patch it myself everytime I update in that branch 13:56 gerundio in order to submit the patch according to koha's rules 13:56 gerundio I know I had some trouble with git at the time 13:56 gerundio drojf, vfernandes did something regarding the patch too 13:55 drojf afaics 13:55 drojf gerundio: then you submitted the patch ;) the others only signed off and passed qa. and chris did a tiny follow-up 13:54 gerundio drojf, yes :p 13:53 drojf [off] gerundio: oh, that realname thing. aren't you rolando? :) 13:49 gerundio you can see the bug history 13:49 gerundio drojf, long time since I've done it, in the end it wasn't even me the one to submit the patch 13:48 gerundio jcamins, ok :) 13:47 jcamins There will be minor changes to the config files, but no changes to the process. 13:47 gerundio jcamins, I know 13:47 drojf gerundio: what do you mean by "solved it in the first place"? did you write the patch against 3.8 and not master? 13:47 jcamins Right, but that's because there were no changes, not because you didn't have to update them. 13:46 gerundio my config file from 3.8.5 to 3.8.12 remained exactly the same 13:46 jcamins The same files exist. They just have to be updated the same as they were from 3.8.5 to 3.8.12. 13:45 cait gerundio: what do you mean? 13:43 gerundio but other than that, config files and such remained the same? 13:42 jcamins Well, much longer. 13:42 jcamins gerundio: same process, but it takes a bit longer. 13:42 cait it owuld be similar 13:42 gerundio btw, in the meantime I'm thinking of updating koha to 3.10.x or 3.12.x ... is the upgrade process similar to this one I just performed or are there any major changes to it? 13:40 gerundio ok, thanks for the heads up cait++ 13:40 cait it should be in 312, but it will not go down fromthere 13:40 cait therefore it won't go into maintenance versions 13:39 cait it's a new feature 13:39 gerundio does this mean that it won't make it to the 3.8.x branch where I solved it in the 1st place? 13:39 cait why do you think it is not? 13:39 cait it should be in there 13:38 gerundio I've seen version 3.12.0 release notes (http://koha-community.org/koha-3-12-0-released/) and it's there 13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7973 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication 13:38 gerundio but I just noticed that bug 7973 says "This patch has been pushed to master." on March 23rd but didn't make it to this release 13:37 gerundio so far so good 13:37 cait Dyrcona: i don't know anything about uruguay, but wellington seemed rather nice :) 13:37 gerundio I'm performing my 1st Koha update from 3.08.05 to 3.08.12 13:37 gerundio hey guys, long time :) 13:35 drojf now make that an auto-reply to every live dvd topic 13:35 drojf oleonard++ # useful email > complaining on irc 13:25 Dyrcona As for Uruguay, it looks like a good choice based on personal liberty and lifestyle. 13:25 Dyrcona I did not know that Catalyst runs stuff.co.nz. 13:23 jcamins Uruguay? 13:23 jcamins And, I can't say I'm too surprised by the mention... Catalyst runs stuff.co.nz. 13:22 * Dyrcona has been thinking of moving there, but is now leaning towards Uruguay. 13:22 jcamins Dyrcona: I didn't realize that you followed NZ news. 13:22 Dyrcona jcamins: Right. In an op-ed about Wellington and the latest round of disparaging remarks against the capital city. 13:21 jcamins :) 13:21 jcamins Dyrcona: the Koha Catalyst not the EG Catalyst, right? 13:20 Dyrcona Ooh. Catalyst IT got mentioned in an op-ed on stuff.co.nz. No mention of Koha, though. 13:17 drojf [off] and that is not even the »official« live dvd yet. soon millions of libraries will be using that 13:16 cait [off] mmh yeah 13:14 drojf [off] »my knowledge of Linux is growing but not sufficient to manage a full install from packages, so I'm using Vimar Kumal's Live-DVD to set up our system« … that live dvd thing scares me 13:10 * drojf hides 13:10 drojf like html 13:07 cait there are lots of nice open source options for creating websites 13:05 jcamins My thought exactly. Drupal already exists and does not require a large up-front investment. 13:05 samueld yes, good idea and with the financial restrictions in high school, that will be difficult 13:04 jcamins *;) 13:04 jcamins Well... maybe, anyway. ;0 13:04 jcamins That should persuade your boss it's not a good idea. :) 13:03 jcamins samueld: tell him/her that if s/he wants to do that, s/he will almost certainly have to pay a developer to write the feature. 13:03 samueld yes, that 's for why i battle with the head of the library who wants to have a complete website with koha, instead of using other tools like drupal 13:03 cait no i think actually 16 is quite reasonable 13:03 * oleonard dusts off wahanui 13:03 cait oleonard: a warning message would be nice, that the value entered is too long, not sure how easy it is to do - could we use the new form validation thing? 13:03 oleonard Sorry wahanui 13:03 wahanui oleonard: that doesn't look right 13:03 oleonard cait: Change the db? 13:02 cait oleonard: not sure i understand your suggestions - cardnumber is 16 chars 13:02 jcamins And, yeah, I think using that is a bad idea. 13:01 cait samueld: the koha as a cms hack is probably not suitabel for current versions 13:01 jcamins You have a syntax error in the Perl. 13:00 samueld what does it mean this message when i use opac as a cms "Software error: Global symbol "$cgi" requires explicit package name at /home/koha/kohaclone/opac/pages.pl line 63. syntax error at /home/koha/kohaclone/opac/pages.pl line 70, near ") {" Execution of /home/koha/kohaclone/opac/pages.pl aborted due to compilation errors." 13:00 cait oleonard: we were setting up staff acounts, trying to use the name 13:00 drojf i wonder if it is worth to ask people again to stop cross-posting or just give up 12:57 oleonard Or better just to up the limit to 50 or 100 and forget maxlength? 12:57 oleonard Easy enough to set maxlength on the text input, but I suspect people also want some kind of JS warning if they have hit the limit (say, from a barcode scan) 12:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10267 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No error message when entering an invalid cardnumber 12:56 oleonard I'm surprised Bug 10267 hasn't come up before 12:43 drojf hi oleonard and tcohen 12:41 tcohen morning cait oleonard 12:33 oleonard Hi 12:33 cait hi oleonard 12:29 cait hi khall_away :) 12:27 * drojf waves to cait 12:27 * cait waves 12:27 drojf looks like it. probably hung-over from release parties 12:26 NateC all quiet on the Koha front? 12:26 drojf not much going on here today 12:26 drojf hi NateC 12:23 wahanui morning is a state of cat 12:23 NateC morning! 11:59 drojf hi #koha 11:53 samueld hi, i've a git question: I've made a git remote update and a git rebase v3.12.00 on my test instance but i keep the same version( 3.11.00.203), An idea? 10:24 rangi that will be cool :) 10:23 magnuse just you wait until we have cool linked data URIs ;-) 10:23 cait very cool rangi++ 10:23 rangi yeah, isbn and issn is really all we have for now 10:21 magnuse too bad we don't have better IDs than ISBN to base it on... 10:14 magnuse rangi++ 10:14 magnuse wow, that is very cool! 10:09 rangi plus https://gitorious.org/koha/mainline/commit/4b60235d77b9b77ac35a5436ecfef65e74ecd581 10:08 rangi http://ratings.koha-community.org/ 10:08 rangi getting there 09:32 christophe_c magnuse: ;-) 09:32 magnuse christophe_c++ 07:22 cait yesterday was a holiday, today is just vacation :) 07:22 gaetan_B hi cait :) still on holiday ? 07:20 cait hi matts and gaetan_B :) 07:18 wahanui kai ora, gaetan_B 07:18 gaetan_B hello 07:16 matts hi #koha ! 07:16 dcook night #koha 07:16 dcook hi francharb 07:13 cait morning dcook 07:13 dcook morning cait :) 07:11 cait good morning #koha 06:54 samueld hi everybody :-) 06:53 aj_ it was not enabled in the previous installation 06:53 aj_ can i enable Use memcached and memoize to cache the results of some function calls? during update? 06:52 aj_ i am upgrading to koha 3.12 on a production environment 06:41 christophe_c hello #koha 06:38 jajm hello 06:33 dcook hey ya reiveune 06:33 reiveune hello 06:12 dcook [off] Preferably both 06:11 dcook [off] Also wish that governments would employ better web designers or use better CMSs... 05:55 magnuse rfps-- 05:47 dcook [off] people who steal handbags off buses should be...*insert something unusually and particularly nasty here* 05:46 eythian np 05:46 magnuse thanks! 05:46 magnuse eythian++ 05:46 magnuse excellent 05:46 eythian magnuse: yep 05:46 magnuse that looks promising :-) 05:46 wahanui koha-common is, like, the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance) 05:46 magnuse koha-common 05:46 magnuse The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: 05:45 eythian magnuse: try apt-get install koha-common=3.12.00-1 05:43 eythian the RC version numbers were built in a way that doesn't work. 05:43 eythian ah. 05:42 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "how do i get to 3.12.0 from here?" (12 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/21 05:10 aj_ Can anyone suggest how to modify email headers from koha? 04:34 dcook All right, belated lunch time pour moi 04:32 dcook eythian++ 04:32 dcook I was hoping that the 3.12 packages would be up in time for my first Koha-Debian install 04:32 wizzyrea eythian++ 04:32 dcook ^_^ 04:30 eythian * uploaded 04:27 eythian dependencies for moving 3.10 to oldstable built, new stuff uploading now. 04:17 wizzyrea wooot 04:12 dcook :D 04:09 eythian down to 287MB now, that's more reasonable 04:07 dcook Wow 04:07 eythian that's how much is unused 04:07 dcook Hmm, I wonder why the tools aren't always doing it then 04:07 wizzyrea yeh, I'd get rid of it 04:07 eythian 989M totaal 04:07 eythian $ reprepro dumpunreferenced | xargs du -hc | tail -1 04:06 eythian unless they actively go looking for them 04:06 eythian no. 04:06 dcook Any chance of people downloading the wrong/outdated files? 04:05 eythian right now the whole thing is 1.2GB 04:05 eythian none, there's tools to do it for me. 04:05 wizzyrea harm in nuking it? 04:05 eythian it's supposed to clean them up, but apparently it doesn't always. 04:04 eythian just old, supersceeded versions, but with their large files still around. 04:04 eythian that kind of thing 04:04 eythian 31293440 68% 654.81kB/s 0:00:21 04:04 eythian koha/pool/main/k/koha/koha_3.9-1~git+20121101121026.5994dd21.tar.gz 04:04 * dcook says only because he plans to install Koha via packages sometime this week 04:04 dcook Like what? 04:02 eythian I think the Koha debian repo needs some trimming. It's far too large with unused files. 03:24 druthb LOL 03:19 jcamins Hehe. 03:19 wahanui I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS 03:19 huginn wahanui: The operation succeeded. 03:19 wahanui @later tell cait it's early, go back to bed 03:19 jcamins remind cait later 03:19 wizzyrea <snort> 03:18 wahanui OK, eythian. 03:18 eythian wahanui: The operation succeeded is <reply>I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS 03:17 wizzyrea that would have been epic. 03:17 eythian I was almost expecting a botwar there. 03:17 wizzyrea lol eythian 03:17 wahanui ...but i'll give you the answer as soon as rda is <reply>... 03:17 huginn wahanui: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 03:17 wahanui huginn: huh? 03:17 huginn wahanui: The operation succeeded. 03:17 wahanui @later tell cait it's early, go back to bed 03:17 eythian wahanui: remind cait later 03:16 wahanui OK, eythian. 03:16 eythian wahanui: remind cait later is <reply>@later tell cait it's early, go back to bed 03:16 wizzyrea haha pwnt 03:15 jcamins Darn. 03:15 huginn jcamins: Error: I can't send notes to myself. 03:15 jcamins @later tell huginn @later tell jcamins hi 03:15 jcamins Hey, what happens if you send huginn an @later with instructions to @later someone else... 03:15 eythian it also makes huginn cranky. Or at least confused. 03:14 zebran00b I know, but IRC chat protocols are fairly low on my to-do list 03:13 * eythian runs 'dch -v 3.12.00-1' 03:12 eythian zebran00b: IRC doesn't use '@' like that, it was around long before twitter :) 03:10 zebran00b cheers @eythian @rangi @jcamins 03:10 * eythian would recommend virtual hosts, as it makes things easier should you want to split them up in the future 03:10 jcamins If you're proxying, use nginx. 03:10 rangi or do mod_proxy stuff, which would be needless complication :) 03:10 jcamins Which would be the opposite of what all the instructions are going to assume. 03:09 eythian yes, you would 03:09 jcamins zebran00b: I think in order to have that work you'd have to combine them into a single virtualhost. 03:09 eythian that just means you didn't have your apache configured to understand the wiki location. 03:09 zebran00b I tried something like that, and when I went to example.com/wiki, all I got was a Koha missing page error. 03:08 zebran00b interesting, it must be my fault from my muddled install 03:08 jcamins They're different virtual hosts. 03:08 jcamins But that doesn't impact mediawiki at all. 03:08 eythian or give it its own domain at wiki.example.com 03:08 eythian You could put mediawiki into example.com/wiki quite happily, for example 03:07 eythian perl doesn't override anything, but Koha does require that it is always at a fixed location from the root of the URL. 03:07 eythian zebran00b: well, I think there are some assumptions in your question that may be incorrect. 03:06 huginn zebran00b: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 03:06 zebran00b @huginn point and match. 03:05 huginn zebran00b: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 03:05 zebran00b @eythian would you happen to know if I wanted to have, say, a mediawiki installed on the same server as Koha but with Koha still at the home directory level, how do I make the mediawiki accessible? AFAIK perl overrides the actual directory tree in the URL, right? 03:04 zebran00b oops, I'm juggling projects on way too many platforms 03:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 03:03 wizzyrea more confetti 03:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 03:03 wizzyrea confetti 03:02 jcamins 3.12. 03:02 eythian that'll be 3.12 :) 03:02 zebran00b admittedly I only drove by a headline on Twitter, I didn't actually read anything 03:02 zebran00b whats this I saw about a release? 03:01 eythian 10.12 is still a long way away :) 03:01 zebran00b congrats to whomever here was involved in 10.12 03:01 zebran00b its still my biggest pain 03:00 zebran00b lol, why change my handle now? 03:00 eythian -n 03:00 eythian really, who isn't a zebran noob? 02:52 rangi we do do it pretty weirdly 02:51 rangi yep 02:51 dcook Intriguing.. 02:51 rangi the zone1 ones are still better 02:51 wizzyrea at least the way we do it 02:50 wizzyrea man highlighting really throws people 02:50 rangi thats a pretty sweet deal 02:50 rangi http://www.gplhost.com/hosting-vps-zone2.html <-- sydney 02:49 dcook If my local library goes down, changes vendors, etc. My data is gone. 02:49 rangi *nod* 02:49 dcook Hence why having a reading list with my local library isn't necessarily that useful 02:49 wizzyrea ooooo 02:49 dcook Mhm 02:49 rangi dcook: federate/distribute the service = less likely to go down 02:49 dcook I guess I want to spread myself...but limit who can see me 02:49 dcook But I want to have access to my information 02:48 rangi http://www.gplhost.com/ <-- cool! 02:48 dcook I don't know if I necessarily want to spread myself out per se 02:48 rangi any of those spread yourself out ideas i like 02:48 rangi status.net 02:47 rangi https://www.libravatar.org/ 02:47 eythian libre.fm 02:47 rangi libravatar 02:47 rangi sorry not gravatar 02:47 rangi yep, thats why opt in 02:47 rangi like gravatar 02:47 dcook Admittedly, not everyone wants that information to be public 02:47 rangi we would do it distributed 02:47 rangi ideally 02:46 dcook \o/ 02:46 rangi and not rely on 3rd party things that go away, or change, or sell our data ;-) 02:46 rangi we should share it 02:46 rangi we ahve a bunch of data now, reviews, tags, star ratings 02:46 rangi *nod* 02:45 * dcook would have a much easier time trusting the Koha community with his reading habits rather than a company that's going to up and sell when it sees green 02:44 dcook Hmm, good point, rangi 02:43 rangi http://www.ptfs-europe.com/rebuslist/ 02:43 rangi if ptfs-europes rebus was floss id use that 02:42 rangi theres no reason someone cant make lists.koha-community.org too ;-) 02:42 dcook I talked about putting something together but it just wasn't much of a priority, since our clients are mostly special libraries 02:42 dcook Yeah, rangi and I chatted a bit about that a while ago 02:41 mtj they seem to have some useful api stuff -> http://www.goodreads.com/api 02:40 dcook Another reminder of why I need my own system for managing my reading lists... 02:39 rangi https://secure.flickr.com/photos/ranginui/8550215249/ 02:39 rangi they work 02:38 dcook :'( 02:38 rangi oh i did some of those a while ago then i got bored when amazon bought them 02:38 dcook What?! 02:38 dcook :o 02:38 wizzyrea and then... amazon bought them :( 02:37 * dcook perks up 02:37 dcook I heard goodreads patches? 02:37 mtj wow, i just noticed all the goodreads patches 02:28 wizzyrea rangi++ 02:27 rangi ill push all the ratings.koha-community.org code to gitorious too as soon as its doing something if people want to fork and do reviews or tags :) 02:22 rangi that makes sense for data 02:22 rangi somethign like that 02:22 rangi havent fully thought that through 02:22 rangi to the list 02:22 rangi when they add their feed 02:22 rangi i think ill get people to agree to cc-sa 02:21 rangi why not 02:21 mtj tagging too, even? 02:18 rangi recommendations and reviews to follow 02:17 rangi because its keyed by isbn/issn 02:17 rangi (its just star ratings at this stage) 02:17 rangi course evergreen will be able to use the ratings too 02:15 mtj whiskey + coding = win 02:15 rangi i gotta get it actually caching too, but thast one more line 02:15 wizzyrea meh. it's birthday SEASON. 02:15 rangi when i was lounging around on the couch 02:15 rangi after whisky 02:15 rangi that was saturday i think 02:14 rangi heh 02:14 wizzyrea legend. 02:14 wizzyrea it's YOUR birthday and you are giving US presents 02:14 mtj wow, truely awesome idea 02:14 wizzyrea oh that's brilliant 02:14 rangi based around the same idea 02:14 rangi recommendations.koha-community.org 02:14 rangi next stop after this 02:14 rangi to allow ppl to register/add feeds 02:13 rangi i just have to build the UX for ratings 02:13 rangi so yeah the export bit is done 02:13 rangi sweet 02:13 mtj hey chris, thanks for the key add, too - works perfect 02:12 rangi and offer a communitywide rating :) 02:12 rangi and it will harvest data 02:12 rangi but my idea is have that site, let people add their feed 02:12 jcamins Yeah, encode_json/decode_json is pretty easy too. 02:12 rangi ill offer in json, or xml 02:12 rangi the feed from ratings.koha-community.org 02:11 rangi to easy 02:11 rangi to get from an object to xml and back again 02:11 rangi and xml2pl 02:11 rangi pl2xml 02:11 rangi mostly cos i can do 02:11 rangi and offer a new feed :) 02:11 rangi and it will aggregate 02:11 rangi which will let you paste in the url of your xml feed 02:11 jcamins Neat! 02:10 rangi when i finish it 02:10 rangi http://ratings.koha-community.org/ 02:10 rangi for this 02:09 jcamins Why as XML? 02:09 jcamins Nice! 02:09 rangi gets you the star ratings, with isbn or issn if one exists as xml 02:08 rangi jcamins: did i show you this yet https://gitorious.org/koha/mainline/commit/4b60235d77b9b77ac35a5436ecfef65e74ecd581 00:59 jcamins I never saw what place I was putting it in. 00:59 jcamins rangi: definitely our own instance... I got a very nice note informing me that I had to abandon my quest because it was in the wrong place. 00:58 Brooke 0/ 00:40 dcook Hmm, this could be fun 00:29 wizzyrea ohh cool 00:28 rangi http://questhub.io/perl/explore/latest/tag/Koha 00:27 rangi i was playing in play-perl 00:26 wizzyrea ohh 00:26 rangi none of them, unless you want to muck around 00:25 wizzyrea wait what realm am I supposed to join 00:25 rangi https://github.com/berekuk/play-perl/blob/master/app/views/event-atom.tt 00:25 rangi and TT 00:25 rangi its all dancer 00:24 rangi i reckon running our own instance is the way to go 00:24 jcamins I mean, I saw a link up at the top left, so I clicked it, but talk about lack of feedback! 00:24 rangi you choose it when you create a user 00:24 jcamins I can't figure out how to see the realm. 00:23 jcamins Apparently I created a quest in the wrong realm. 00:23 jcamins questhub.io is not the most obvious user interface, is it? 00:17 dcook hey Brooke 00:17 Brooke hi dcook 00:00 wizzyrea hi brooke