Time  Nick         Message
03:40 jcamins      Lovely. A huge error in the French PO file.
03:46 jcamins      Why did I push this crap?
07:19 * magnuse    waves
07:19 cait         hi #koha
07:19 magnuse      hiya cait
07:19 cait         hi magnuse :)
07:22 rangi        evening
07:23 cait         hi rangi
07:30 amitgupta_   hi cait
07:36 magnuse      hiya rangi eythian amitgupta_
10:02 magnuse      cait++ for qa'ing bug 10281
10:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10281 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Search domains do not seem to work
10:03 cait         let's hope we didn't miss something :)
10:04 cait         magnuse: i have a patch that needs sign off for 3.12.1 :)
10:04 cait         fixing some translatability issues on the opac detail page
10:04 cait         *hint* hehe
10:12 magnuse      cait: fingers crossed!
10:12 magnuse      cait: which bug?
10:13 magnuse      i can't do it now, but maybe/hopefully in time for 3.12.1
10:15 cait         yeah, no pressure :)
10:15 cait         bug 10249
10:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10249 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Untranslatable strings in Javascript on OPAC detail page
10:18 magnuse      we'll see
10:21 cait         got guests now... cooking in my kitchen
10:43 magnuse      yay
10:44 magnuse      what do we call the first page you see when you log into the staff client? The page that now has two columns of links with nice icons?
10:45 cait         start page?
10:45 magnuse      main menu? start page?
10:45 cait         home page?
10:45 magnuse      yeah, i think maybe start page
10:45 cait         i would go for start or home i think and call menu the top menu
10:45 magnuse      yeah
10:46 magnuse      Bug 10285
10:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10285 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Error 500 in staff client displays old start page
11:12 magnuse      weird, i have a record where 999d seems to be messed up, and any search that returns it gives a 500 error
11:13 pastebot     "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors in intranet-error.log" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/14
11:14 pastebot     "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "relevant parts of the record" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15
11:14 magnuse      i tried to overlay it with a new record from z39.50 but get the same error
11:23 * magnuse    needs a break
11:28 cait         could it be a merged record?
12:05 magnuse      nope, i never tried merging
12:05 magnuse      it happenede after i added ~4000 items
12:05 magnuse      i'll export with the items and see what that looks like
12:09 magnuse      hm, no problems that i can see
12:22 jcamins      Is there anyone around who has an installation with the staff client translated?
12:23 magnuse      yup
12:24 jcamins      Could you please switch to your translated interface and see if the links for blanking out/setting the syspref to "default" for the XSLT sysprefs work?
12:24 magnuse      yup
12:24 magnuse      i have done that several times, but i'll check
12:24 jcamins      Thanks.
12:26 magnuse      works as expected (ona package install of rc3)
12:26 jcamins      Okay...
12:26 jcamins      Hrm.
12:26 magnuse      you are having trouble with it?
12:26 jcamins      In French.
12:27 magnuse      that's weird
12:27 magnuse      try installing nb-NO and see how that works?
12:27 jcamins      I'll say!
12:27 magnuse      it's what i just tested with
12:27 jcamins      Yeah, that's a good idea.
12:29 jcamins      Works in nb-NO.
12:29 jcamins      And de-DE.
12:29 magnuse      sounds like a problem with the french .po file then...
12:30 jcamins      Yep.
12:30 magnuse      koha-translate is rather handy though, isn't it? :-)
12:30 jcamins      Sure is.
12:31 magnuse      and not having tiny_mce in the language dirs makes it that much faster
12:31 jcamins      Well, as it's just French, this falls under the heading of "something that a French speaker should've fixed, and not at all blocker-y."
12:32 magnuse      isn't "Batch item modification" supposed to obey the IndependantBranches setting?
12:32 jcamins      magnuse: yes.
12:33 magnuse      ah, perhaps it's because i'm logged in as a superlibrarian...
12:34 jcamins      That would make sense.
12:34 cait         sorry only half here - ping me if you need me
12:35 jcamins      Oh, don't worry. I will. :P
12:37 jcamins      This is not a good sign. I can't connect to git.k-c.org all the sudden.
12:37 * jcamins    kills the fetch, tries again.
12:39 magnuse      ah, there is a sepcific permission for batch editing and it works rather nicely. w00t!
12:47 cait         i can accessit normally
12:47 cait         well git.koha-community.org that is
12:48 jcamins      Well, I think barring any more unpleasant discoveries, Koha 3.12.0 is getting released when I finish these release notes.
12:48 jcamins      cait: yeah, it was just a momentary glitch, while I happened to be doing a fetch.
12:51 magnuse      jcamins: yay!!
12:53 cait         magnuse: white asparagus - is this a thing in norway?
12:53 cait         with roasted potatos with parsley and sauce hollandaise?
12:53 jcamins      magnuse: BTW, the chocolate brioche made with "challah" dough is delicious.
12:54 magnuse      cait: yeah, not a big thing perhaps, but i have heard of it
12:54 magnuse      and it sounds delicious
12:54 magnuse      jcamins: noted!
12:54 magnuse      ooh, lunchtime is approaching fast, i think
12:54 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9824' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe54d7ca248b5f12914bd53f1703bb73c871cbdb> / Bug 9824: Make it possible to apply/cancel switch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7acdcb7e2aedf2ff202c009ce053de6dff54e840> / Bug 9824: Followup for removing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=529434cab891a8
12:54 jcamins      I'm not sure it quite tastes like challah, but it's delicious.
12:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #38 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:54 cait         magnuse: best part - my dad is cooking in my kitchen :)
12:55 * magnuse    never had challah, so wouldn't be too worried :-)
12:55 cait         and i can sit here and watch
12:55 magnuse      cait: woot!
12:55 magnuse      hehe
12:56 magnuse      half way through the main list of demands in the rfp now, but there is probably some other stuff i need to look at too
13:02 magnus_lunch @wunder boo
13:02 huginn       magnus_lunch: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on May 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling).
13:15 jcamins      Awww.
13:15 * jcamins    just got a nice e-mail saying that the writer thought jcamins was a good RM. :)
13:17 magnus_lunch whoever_sent_the_email++
13:33 jcamins      [off] Am I the only one who hears "I am using the fact that I'm the 'official' LiveCD manager as a way to make other people do all the work of creating a livecd"?
13:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #38: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/38/
13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Fix incorrect entities in PO files
13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9452: C4::Letters not Plack-compatible
13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10281: searching for a search domain fails
13:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9452 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::Letters does not function under Plack
13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: no need to use SimpleSearch for matching auths
13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: Don't limit valid matches to bibs
13:34 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: show correct matching record
13:34 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9824: Followup for removing filter
13:34 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9824: Make it possible to apply/cancel switch
13:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10281 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Search domains do not seem to work
13:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10230 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Match points do not work with authorities
13:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller
13:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #1180 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:39 jcamins      Grrr.
13:39 jcamins      Where is magnuse when you need him!
13:40 jcamins      I need to know the Norwegian alphabet's order, and I'm somewhat doubtful about what Wikipedia tells me.
13:41 jcamins      Norwegian dictionary. That'll do it.
13:42 jcamins      Huh. Maybe the additional vowels really do go at the end.
13:47 jcamins      magnus_lunch: if you happen to wander by could you please confirm that the Norwegian alphabet is really: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Æ Ø Å
13:51 * jcamins    hopes magnuse wanders by after lunch.
13:55 jcamins      Hooray!
13:55 magnuse      yup, that alphabet you have there is correct
13:55 jcamins      Yay!
13:55 magnuse      the special vowels go at the end
13:55 jcamins      I found it with the vowels in every possible order pretty much everywhere.
13:55 * magnuse    wonders why jcamins is wondering about that
13:55 magnuse      oh?
13:57 jcamins      Yeah, one site had å before ø, one site had æ, å, and ø interfiled...
13:57 magnuse      you can consider the setting for the "alphabet" syspref here as authoritative: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/nb-NO/1-Obligatorisk/system_preferences.sql;h=eeedc86367f0d3ae826a4248147a632f980bdb75;hb=HEAD ;-)
13:57 jcamins      And, I needed it for a screenshot of the alphabet syspref.
13:57 magnuse      wow, weird
13:57 jcamins      Ooh.
13:57 jcamins      I hadn't thought of looking for a default.
13:57 jcamins      Well, I have it now. :)
13:57 magnuse      :-)
14:10 jcamins      Yay! A friend of mine produced a gorgeous graph of the 3.12 translations!
14:14 * magnuse    is curious
14:15 magnuse      anyone know off the tops of their heads how the duplicate control in cataloguing works? does it look at title, isbn, other stuff?
14:17 jcamins      ISBN and author/title.
14:17 magnuse      cool, thanks
14:23 jcamins      Now... why are there still strokes inside this table?
14:23 magnuse      jcamins: are you saving the "gorgeous graph" for the release notes, or would you like to test drive it with actual users? :-)
14:23 magnuse      because someone stroked it
14:25 magnuse      probably someone who lives with a cat, who is used to doing that sort of thing absentmindedly
14:25 jcamins      lol
14:26 jcamins      magnuse: check your e-mail. :)
14:26 magnuse      ooh, thanks!
14:29 magnuse      jcamins++
14:37 jcamins      magnuse: do you have a screenshot of NORMARC analytics?
14:38 jcamins      I don't have any Norwegian records with analytics, and I prefer consistent language displays.
14:39 magnuse      not readily available, no
14:40 jcamins      Hmmm... no picture for that then, I think.
14:41 jcamins      Unless you have a sample record with a 773 in Norwegian?
14:43 magnuse      don't worry about it :-)
14:44 jcamins      Okay, I need another enhancement in acquisitions/cataloging/serials.
14:45 jcamins      Or even two.
14:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1180: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1180/
14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Fix incorrect entities in PO files
14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9452: C4::Letters not Plack-compatible
14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10281: searching for a search domain fails
14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: no need to use SimpleSearch for matching auths
14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: Don't limit valid matches to bibs
14:46 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10230: show correct matching record
14:46 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9824: Followup for removing filter
14:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9452 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , C4::Letters does not function under Plack
14:46 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9824: Make it possible to apply/cancel switch
14:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10281 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Search domains do not seem to work
14:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10230 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Match points do not work with authorities
14:46 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller
14:47 jcamins      Bug 6945, bug 9162, bug 9145.
14:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6945 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a link to show a MARC preview in the normal view
14:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9162 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Add a system preference to set which notes fields appears on title notes/description separator
14:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9145 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , Authorities: standard language for UNIMARC
14:49 jcamins      No, not that last one.
14:49 jcamins      bug 9154
14:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9154 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , On item edit page, highlight row of item being edited
14:51 magnuse      success! \o/
15:14 magnuse      um, why did i never thinka bout this before...
15:14 magnuse      what happens if koha tries to send e.g. am "advance notice" or an "item due" message to a patron without an email-address?
15:16 magnuse      buenas dias tcohen
15:18 tcohen       god ettermiddag, magnuse
15:18 magnuse      :-)
15:18 tcohen       # thanks to googleof course
15:19 jcamins      magnuse: it doesn't.
15:19 jcamins      They get printed, don't they?
15:19 magnuse      where and how?
15:20 jcamins      misc/cronjobs/gather_print_notices.pl
15:20 jcamins      And then the librarian has to print the generated PDF and stuff the envelopes.
15:20 magnuse      correct answer: a small print shop in downtown Tucson
15:20 jcamins      lol
15:20 magnuse      ah, that does sound vaguely familiar
15:20 * magnuse    looks at the cronjob
15:22 magnuse      ah cool, you just have to configure a directory where the librarians can find the generated notices (safely...)
15:22 jcamins      Right.
15:22 jcamins      Or e-mail.
15:22 magnuse      yup
15:23 magnuse      and it's html, not pdf, by the looks of the script
15:23 tcohen       ok, triple match point
15:23 magnuse      tennis?
15:23 tcohen       nadal won, yes magnuse
15:24 jcamins      tcohen: PDF, HTML, something printable, anyway.
15:25 * magnuse    redirects output to tcohen to himself temporarily
15:25 jcamins      Right.
15:26 magnuse      :-)
15:29 tcohen       AR>&NRW
15:31 jcamins      Okay, bugfixes that merit mention in the release notes?
15:32 jcamins      Bug the-one-I-just-pushed.
15:32 jcamins      Bug 7241
15:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
15:32 jcamins      What others?
15:32 wahanui      others are too depressing
15:32 jcamins      Bug 9842
15:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9842 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , SIP tests : fix for 07hold.t on Cancel Hold
15:32 jcamins      Bug 9824
15:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller
15:32 jcamins      Jeez. All this release note writing is making me dyslexic. :(
15:42 jcamins      Would anyone like to sign off on bug 10287?
15:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10287 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Budget administration table displayed with single pixel artifact before and after
15:42 jcamins      No?
15:42 wahanui      http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2933/collapsing.gif
15:42 jcamins      Fair enough.
15:43 * jcamins    pushes the one-line fix.
15:44 * druthb     occasionally wonders about jcamins' sanity.
15:44 jcamins      druthb: why?
15:45 jcamins      I gave folks a chance to sign off, no one took it, I did my job.
15:45 * druthb     chuckles
15:45 jcamins      Seems quite sane to me.
15:45 jcamins      The pixels were messing up a screenshot.
15:48 jcamins      druthb: tcohen: magnuse: any non-package-related bugfixes (not enhancements or new features) that you think should be highlighted in the release notes?
15:49 druthb       now I *know* you're nuts--asking me that.  I'm so far out of the loop.
15:49 jcamins      druthb: right, so anything that you remember is definitely important. :P
15:49 druthb       *snrk*
15:49 druthb       wahanui: jcamins?
15:49 wahanui      i heard jcamins was brilliant
15:49 druthb       wahanui: jcamins is also insane.
15:49 wahanui      okay, druthb.
15:49 jcamins      lol
15:50 druthb       wahanui: jcamins is also the best cookie-chef in #koha.
15:50 wahanui      okay, druthb.
15:51 druthb       wahanui: druthb?
15:51 wahanui      Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
15:51 * druthb     nods.
15:56 jcamins      I currently have two bugfixes listed.
15:56 jcamins      bug 7241 and bug 9824.
15:56 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
15:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller
16:00 jcamins      I would like at least one more.
16:11 samuel       hi everybody :-)
16:14 magnuse      that was quick
16:15 jcamins      Bug 9894.
16:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9894 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , 'hidden' value is hard to understand in frameworks
16:16 magnuse      that's a good one
16:16 magnuse      i bet lots of people have been scratching their heads over those weird negative and positive numbers...
16:21 magnuse      jcamins: your offline html5 circ thing - will that only work when you have the right page open before loosing connection to the Net, or is there some html5 trickery that makes it possible to get to it after you lost your connection?
16:22 tcohen       jcamins: i have that bug in my pipeline
16:22 tcohen       delay that until 3.12 was released as it would suit master and not 3.12
16:24 jcamins      magnuse: the latter.
16:24 wahanui      the latter is more perl critic friendly.
16:25 magnuse      jcamins: cool!
16:30 jcamins      Okay, bugfixes section is done.
16:31 magnuse      yay!
16:31 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10287' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71cd0f3c2085d37e9b706816888c0523e52cc9e3> / Bug 10287: Remove 1px artifacts from budget admin page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=764fb175330b99a7dc12061bbcc96706d172567c>
16:34 jcamins      Okay, time to write the frontmatter.
16:36 jcamins      Guess I'd better figure out what goes in it.
16:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:40 magnuse      jcamins: the complete cv of every developer who contributed, i think?
16:52 jcamins      lol
16:52 jcamins      Right.
17:00 jcamins      Grr.
17:00 jcamins      The TOC goes over one page by four lines.
17:00 magnuse      moahahaha
17:00 magnuse      ;-)
17:01 jcamins      Maybe I'll try run-in style.
17:02 jcamins      Yeah, that'll work, if I use em-dashes between.
17:02 magnuse      oops, dogs say it's time for walkies so i guess it's time for walkies
17:03 magnuse      @later tell Viktor: if you want an easy bug to sign off, bug 10288 is for you :-)
17:03 huginn       magnuse: The operation succeeded.
17:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #39: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/39/
17:18 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10287: Remove 1px artifacts from budget admin page
17:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10287 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Budget administration table displayed with single pixel artifact before and after
17:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #1181 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:22 jcamins      14 p. is more reasonable than 43, I think.
18:30 jcamins      I have a problem. I have a white space in the middle of the dedication.
18:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1181: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1181/
18:31 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10287: Remove 1px artifacts from budget admin page
18:31 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10287 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Budget administration table displayed with single pixel artifact before and after
18:33 jcamins      Fixed it. I changed the text to use more smaller words.
18:44 samuel       hi koha world :-)
18:49 jcamins      Hello.
19:01 magnuse      jcamins: clever! ;-)
19:04 drojf        good evening #koha
19:05 magnuse      moin drojf
19:05 magnuse      or is it the wrong time of the day for moin?=
19:05 magnuse      s/=//
19:06 jcamins      Do I have access to debian.koha-community.org/
19:06 drojf        magnuse: depends on the area :D i like to use it all through the day
19:06 jcamins      No.
19:07 jcamins      gmcharlt does.
19:07 magnuse      jcamins: and eythian and maybe mtj?
19:07 jcamins      And eythian, of course, but being in NZ he's...
19:08 jcamins      oh, it's day in NZ now.
19:08 magnuse      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration#debian.koha-community.org
19:08 jcamins      Yep.
19:08 jcamins      I was just looking at that.
19:08 magnuse      ah, ok
19:09 magnuse      it's even monday morning in nz, but they might hava holiday, just like here?
19:09 jcamins      Oh, right.
19:10 jcamins      gmcharlt: ping me please if you happen to pass by the computer?
19:10 gmcharlt     jcamins: pong
19:11 jcamins      gmcharlt: excellent! Can I get you to make a few changes to the header on debian.koha-community.org?
19:11 gmcharlt     sure
19:11 * jcamins    writes what he wants it to say.
19:14 pastebot     "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gmcharlt: header text to clarify what the user is looking at" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/16
19:16 drojf        i think that is missing a word
19:16 drojf        This is an apt repository Koha and its dependencies.
19:16 drojf        for? of?
19:16 jcamins      for.
19:16 jcamins      Right, apt repository *for*.
19:16 jcamins      Sorry.
19:16 jcamins      I've been writing release notes for... 24 hours.
19:16 drojf        ouch :(
19:17 magnuse      jcamins++
19:17 drojf        jcamins++
19:17 jcamins      All that to write something 14 pages.
19:17 jcamins      I didn't have enough time to write a lot, so instead I spent even more time writing a little.
19:17 drojf        oh i know that superpower
19:19 drojf        »the book of koha 3.12«
19:26 gmcharlt     jcamins: I've updated it, along with a few adjustments of my own
19:26 gmcharlt     please take a look
19:26 jcamins      Thanks!
19:26 jcamins      Looks good.
19:42 jcamins      Okay, I have a problem.
19:42 jcamins      The descender on the 'p' is getting cut off.
19:44 jcamins      Oh, I know what I can do.
19:58 jcamins      What should I call the introduction/RM's note that comes at the beginning of the release notes before the table of contents?
19:59 jcamins      Wow that's depressing. The release notes are 3000 words.
19:59 jcamins      And yet I started working on them weeks ago, and have been working on them since ~3pm yesterday.
19:59 jcamins      (with six hours off for sleep)
20:03 * kf_lunch   waves
20:04 kf_lunch     what did I miss?
20:04 kf_lunch     have we released yet?
20:04 jcamins      Nope.
20:31 magnuse      that is one long lunch, kf_lunch ;-) hope you are counting the hours since *kf* must mean you have been at work all this time
20:37 jcamins      Hm.
20:37 jcamins      There's no documentation for the OpacItemLocation syspref.
20:41 magnuse      :-)
20:44 cait         [off] :( why do so many people believe koha 4.x was the newest? that's depressing. http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&type=member&gid=671467&item=37568117&commentID=0&trk=eml-anet_dig-b_pd-pmr-cn&ut=20u8fW9Zhd9RM1#commentID_0
20:45 jcamins      Because they keep on doing press releases.
20:46 drojf        we could elect a press release manager
20:47 jcamins      [off] What does it say? I'm in a "please log in" loop.
20:49 magnuse      [off] http://paste.koha-community.org/17
20:50 magnuse      [off] do we need a google groupe? nope, we already have a linkedin group
20:50 jcamins      Ta.
20:50 cait         [off] somene trying to install 2.2.9 getting told repeatedly to install the newest version 4.12 :(
20:51 drojf        [off] ah, so linkedin is that google group i have been hearing about?
20:52 jcamins      Wait...
20:52 magnuse      [off] i fear so, drojf
20:52 drojf        [off] it's even worse than i expected
20:52 jcamins      Could someone please tell me whether the syspref is OpacItemLocation or OPACItemsResultsDisplay?
20:55 magnuse      jcamins: looks like they both exist?
20:57 jcamins      ...
20:57 jcamins      Right.
20:57 jcamins      Of course.
20:57 jcamins      Sill me.
20:57 jcamins      *Silly
20:59 jcamins      Okay, found three sysprefs that are not documented.
21:00 magnuse      yay for finding them
21:04 drojf        [off] yay, more live dvd questions
21:04 jcamins      [off] At least he's not e-mailing me directly.
21:04 drojf        [off] "i installed my live dvd in a vm". what?
21:04 jcamins      [off] Oh, support request.
21:04 magnuse      [off] /me looks out of the window and sees http://www.flickr.com/photos/enger/8754360107/in/photostream/lightbox/
21:06 drojf        [off] magnuse i'm really jealous
21:06 jcamins      Wow. Beautiful!
21:06 wahanui      hmmm... Beautiful! is that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing?
21:07 drojf        ugh. screw jquery ui
21:07 jcamins      What's wrong with jQueryUI?
21:08 drojf        the nonexistent backwards compatibility
21:09 drojf        use an example of a while back and be sure it does not work because things change all the time. at least that was my impression
21:09 jcamins      Heh.
21:10 rangi        morning
21:10 drojf        hi rangi
21:10 cait         hi rangi
21:12 samuel       a question of frenchies: we have some problems with po files which have been uploaded in the git repository.Is it possible to modify strings in the repository?
21:15 magnuse      hiya rangi - having the day off in nz, or not?
21:15 rangi        nope, whats today?
21:16 jcamins      samuel: I pushed a bunch of fixes.
21:16 samuel       <magnuse> your photos is very nice. It's the paradise
21:16 jcamins      The French PO files were broken.
21:16 magnuse      rangi: second day of... something
21:16 jcamins      I cannot express how furious I am about that.
21:16 jcamins      I seriously considered pulling French entirely.
21:16 magnuse      samuel: :-)
21:16 rangi        magnuse: ahh nope our next holiday is june 3 i think
21:17 magnuse      ooh, what's that?
21:17 wahanui      that is, like, a good idea
21:18 magnuse      rangi: it's pentecost, according to wikipedia
21:19 magnuse      Pentecost Monday is a public holiday in many European countries including Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Denmark, Portugal Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Romania (since 2008), (most parts of) Switzerland, Ukraine and also in the African nations Senegal, Benin and Togo.
21:19 magnuse      In Sweden it was also a public holiday, but Pentecost Monday (Annandag Pingst) was replaced by Swedish National Day on June 6, by a government decision on December 15, 2004. In Italy and Malta, it is no longer a public holiday. It was a public holiday in Ireland until 1973. In the United Kingdom the day is known as Whit Monday, and was a bank holiday until 1967 when it was replaced by the Spring Bank Holiday.
21:19 magnuse      so there :-)
21:19 jcamins      samuel: try the current PO files
21:20 wizzyrea     what happened to the french po files?
21:20 wizzyrea     and good morning
21:21 samuel       <jared> yes, that's what i will suggest, i don't really know what happened these last days with these files
21:21 magnuse      hiya wizzyrea
21:21 jcamins      samuel: no, it's fixed.
21:21 jcamins      You're talking about the error any time you try to view details or results?
21:21 samuel       yes
21:21 jcamins      Yep. Fixed.
21:21 jcamins      By an RM in a towering rage.
21:22 jcamins      :)
21:22 samuel       ok, i understand
21:22 magnuse      pft, details and results, who needs 'em ;-)
21:22 jcamins      Once I have had time to recover from the release, I will be sending an open letter to gmcharlt with lessons I learned.
21:23 jcamins      Including "Transifex is no panacea, and seems to make it easier to break things badly."
21:24 jcamins      Wow. There are some benefits to Time Warner's DNS being broken.
21:24 jcamins      My upload speed is incredible.
21:25 magnuse      yay?
21:25 jcamins      magnuse: yup. :D
21:25 jcamins      [off] http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/relnotes312.pdf
21:25 jcamins      Oh, drat. I forgot something.
21:26 samuel       <jcamins> transifex seems to have success for the frenchies but i don't really know these tool
21:27 magnuse      jcamins++
21:27 jcamins      samuel: clearly it's not successful, since it broke the PO files and it took a non-francophile with vim to fix it. :/
21:27 jcamins      Added to the second paragraph: "Koha 3.12.0 is released under the GNU General Public License version 3 or later."
21:27 drojf        jcamins: why would your upload speed care about the dns?
21:28 jcamins      drojf: because I have a cable connection, so the bandwidth is shared.
21:28 drojf        ah! LOL
21:28 samuel       <jcamins> ok, i understand.
21:28 jcamins      When their DNS goes out, I get a lot more of the bandwidth.
21:29 jcamins      1.4MB/s :D
21:29 jcamins      *up*
21:29 drojf        sure, because you are the only one that is able to use the web :D
21:29 jcamins      Yup.
21:29 jcamins      I love it.
21:29 drojf        use the bandwidth to set up a botnet to ddos the dns
21:30 jcamins      lol
21:30 magnuse      lol
21:32 jcamins      Oh for crying out loud.
21:33 jcamins      WHAT PART OF "THE STRING FREEZE ENDS ON SATURDAY" MAKES IT SOUND LIKE THE STRING FREEZE DOESN'T END UNTIL SUNDAY?!?
21:34 drojf        what happened?
21:34 jcamins      drojf: one of the languages was completed today.
21:35 * wizzyrea   sends camomile tea, and valium
21:35 drojf        i see
21:35 wizzyrea     for *after* the release, of course.
21:35 magnuse      hehe
21:36 magnuse      jcamins: just get the darn thing out the door and be done with it ;-)
21:36 jcamins      wizzyrea: I think I need it during as well.
21:36 jcamins      magnuse: I'm updating the version now.
21:37 magnuse      w00t!
21:37 jcamins      Ummm... DisplayIconsXSLT?
21:39 magnuse      sure, if you insist
21:42 drojf        did you see that ludicrous XSLT display last night?
21:42 jcamins      lol
21:42 jcamins      Yes, I did.
21:42 magnuse      the eurovision song contest?
21:42 jcamins      I fixed it.
21:42 jcamins      Oh, you meant Eurovision.
21:42 jcamins      I didn't fix that.
21:44 drojf        lol that too
21:44 * wizzyrea   suspects that magnuse saw "ludicrous ... display" and went directly to eurovision.
21:45 jcamins      lol
21:45 jcamins      Right... building a release now.
21:46 * magnuse    suspects that wizzyrea just hit the hammer on the head
21:46 * magnuse    is in a silly mood and should get some sleep
21:48 * jcamins    could do with some sleep.
21:58 jcamins      Okay, if jenkins passes, I'm uploading 3.12.0 and passing on the baton in an hour.
21:59 jcamins      [off] Well, not so much passing the baton as tossing it in gmcharlt's direction and running like hell.
21:59 drojf        lol
22:01 jcamins      jenkins_koha: it's on the hour. Please notice the new commits in 3.12.x now.
22:01 jenkins_koha jcamins did you mean me? Unknown command 'it's'
22:01 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
22:01 magnuse      heh
22:02 jcamins      jenkins_koha: it is now one minute past the hour!
22:02 jenkins_koha jcamins did you mean me? Unknown command 'it'
22:02 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
22:02 jcamins      Hmph. You'd think jenkins_koha was an automaton or something.
22:04 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Increment version for 3.12.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d28d1ef0fa9872749c12d20e322eda50bca6b0ad> / Update release notes for final 3.12.00 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7233475247afee65969a88ee2360beef5bf81c26>
22:06 * magnuse    does the sensible thing and wanders off - have a nice release party #koha!
22:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #40 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:14 * cait       hides to not get hit by the baton
22:22 jcamins      How many major releases has Koha had?
22:23 rangi        hmm quite a lot
22:23 rangi        lemme look
22:24 jcamins      Thanks.
22:25 rangi        1 1.2 2 2.2 3 3.2 3.4 3.6 3.8 3.10
22:25 rangi        atho its only from 3.4
22:25 rangi        that we started doing major and minor
22:25 rangi        so 1.02 etc was not just bug fixes
22:25 rangi        they were pretty much major releases
22:26 jcamins      Hmm.
22:26 rangi        we only used to increment the major number when we did something big
22:26 rangi        like swithc db, add marc storage etc
22:27 rangi        oh 1.1 we did too
22:28 jcamins      Ooh, so 3.12 is the twelfth major release.
22:28 rangi        yep
22:28 jcamins      Perfect!
22:44 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @KiwiLibrarian: "@megingle @ukulelefi Isn't that fabulous. I'd love to do something snazzy with ours. #KohaILS @ranginui"
22:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #40: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/40/
22:48 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Update release notes for final 3.12.00 release
22:48 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Increment version for 3.12.0 release
22:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #1182 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:49 jcamins      Yay!
22:49 jcamins      It's tagging time!
22:52 jcamins      rangi: how do I do the tag?
22:52 jcamins      I think I've been doing them wrong.
22:53 rangi        heres how i do them
22:53 jcamins      I've been doing git tag -s v3.12.00
22:53 rangi        git tag -f -a v3.10.05 -s -m 'Koha release 3.10.5'
22:53 rangi        you dont need the -f
22:53 rangi        the -a is good
22:54 jcamins      Aren't -a and -s mutually exclusive?
22:55 rangi        it seems to do an annotated signed tag
22:55 jcamins      Okay, yes.
22:55 jcamins      That's what I was doing wrong.
22:55 jcamins      I thought they were mutually exclusive, but I guess not.
22:56 rangi        not sure, they might and -s is just winning ;) but it doesn't complain
23:03 rangi        tag looks good to me
23:03 jcamins      Thanks.
23:04 jcamins      Could someone please check that you're able to download and extract http://download.koha-community.org/koha-3.12.00.tar.gz
23:05 rangi        downloading now
23:05 jcamins      Thanks.
23:08 jcamins      The release notes are still 1.3MB.
23:10 cait         night all
23:10 wahanui      goodnight cait. You'll be back.
23:16 jcamins      Anyone else having problems access git.koha-community.org?
23:17 wizzyrea     it was pretty slow for me earlier
23:17 jcamins      wizzyrea: I'm glad you're here. I need Wordpress help.
23:17 wizzyrea     shoot
23:17 rangi        hmm yeah its not responding very fast at all
23:17 jcamins      I uploaded a PDF... never mind.
23:18 jcamins      The "Upload/Insert" link is not obvious.
23:18 wizzyrea     there should be a tab
23:18 wizzyrea     above the edit box
23:18 wizzyrea     "add media
23:18 jcamins      Yeah.
23:18 jcamins      I was looking for an "Attach" option below, because there's a Media tab.
23:20 wizzyrea     are you still having trouble?
23:20 wizzyrea     or did you figure it out?
23:21 jcamins      Nope.
23:21 jcamins      :)
23:21 jcamins      I got it.
23:21 wizzyrea     good ok :)
23:25 jcamins      [off] http://koha-community.org/?p=4403&preview=true <-- look good to folks?
23:26 jcamins      Other than the lack of links.
23:26 jcamins      I'll fix that.
23:26 jcamins      Well... try.
23:27 wizzyrea     that's the preview - we can't see it until it's posted
23:27 jcamins      You can't?
23:27 jcamins      Oh.
23:27 jcamins      Ummm...
23:27 wizzyrea     published
23:27 wizzyrea     I mean
23:27 jcamins      Well, once I get it working I'll publish it. :)
23:28 * wizzyrea   has a login so I can probably look at it
23:30 jcamins      Do we include the complete release notes in the e-mail announcement?
23:30 wizzyrea     probably include your pdf
23:30 jcamins      I meant, inline.
23:30 jcamins      I can't remember.
23:30 rangi        i do for the text ones
23:30 rangi        but id link to the post for the pdf
23:31 rangi        it'd be too big for a mailing list
23:31 jcamins      Yeah, definitely linking to the PDF.
23:31 jcamins      rangi: did the tarball unzip okay for you?
23:32 rangi        it sure did
23:32 jcamins      Great!
23:32 jcamins      Guess it's time to relink koha-latest.tar.gz.
23:32 rangi        sweet
23:32 rangi        you should send it to mr breeding too
23:33 rangi        he has a contact form you can paste it into
23:33 jcamins      Will do.
23:33 rangi        awesome thanks
23:34 jcamins      For the download header...
23:34 jcamins      remove the link to 3.6.x?
23:34 rangi        sounds like a plan to me
23:34 jcamins      Actually, maybe I should leave it with "Final (no longer supported) release of Koha 3.6.x.
23:34 rangi        hmm yeah, that'd work
23:35 jcamins      And maybe move it to old_releases.
23:35 * wizzyrea   just read "paroxysms of horror" in the release notes, snorted
23:35 jcamins      lol
23:35 jcamins      Thanks.
23:35 jcamins      Guess I should've sanitized some of the subjects?
23:35 wizzyrea     naw, it gives us personality ;)
23:36 wizzyrea     of which we have an abundance
23:38 jcamins      Hehe.
23:38 jcamins      We certainly do.
23:38 wizzyrea     actually we show quite a bit of restraint in our bug descriptions
23:38 jcamins      We do, actually.
23:39 wizzyrea     and reports
23:39 jcamins      Okay, download.koha-community.org is updated.
23:39 jcamins      Release is tagged.
23:40 jcamins      Announcement posted on website.
23:41 rangi        nice
23:41 rgbv         hi rangi
23:41 rangi        heya, you made it rgbv
23:41 jcamins      Once I've sent the e-mail, I'll do the thing to mbreeding.
23:41 jcamins      Anything else?
23:41 wahanui      Anything else is a guess
23:41 rangi        thats about it
23:42 rangi        rgbv: you should have got an invite message from me? in irc?
23:42 jcamins      I send this to koha-devel and koha@?
23:42 rangi        thats what i normally do
23:45 jcamins      rangi: could you please moderate the message?
23:45 rangi        will do
23:46 jcamins      Thanks.
23:46 jcamins      Apparently the text-only release notes are a bit large.
23:46 rangi        done
23:46 jcamins      Thanks!
23:46 jcamins      tcohen: 3.12.x is YOURS!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
23:46 jcamins      :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
23:46 jcamins      :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
23:46 jcamins      confetti
23:46 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
23:46 jcamins      more confetti
23:46 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
23:46 jcamins      more confetti
23:46 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
23:46 jcamins      more confetti
23:46 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
23:47 jcamins      That is to say, I am not displeased.
23:47 rangi        hehe
23:47 wizzyrea     hehe
23:47 wizzyrea     more confetti!
23:47 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
23:49 wizzyrea     now, go find yourself a drink
23:49 dcook        huzzah, jcamins
23:49 drojf        yay \o/
23:49 wizzyrea     jcamins++
23:49 drojf        more confetti
23:49 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
23:49 dcook        jcamins++
23:49 drojf        jcamins++
23:49 pastebot     "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Announcement for librarytechnology?" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18
23:50 kathryn      woowoo!!!!!
23:50 cjh          jcamins++
23:50 cjh          congrats #koha
23:50 jcamins      Does that sound good?
23:50 rangi        i like it
23:50 jcamins      Excellent.
23:50 cjh          looks good.
23:56 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @oleonard: "Hooray! Koha 3.12 released! http://t.co/lS686wLyfP #KohaILS"
23:56 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ranginui: "#KohaILS 3.12 released, yes thats right we sometimes even release early take that dinosaurs http://t.co/Wke25oMud4 congrats to release team"
23:57 rangi        hmm im a bit more passive aggressive than owen :)
23:57 jcamins      lol
23:57 jcamins      Yes, it would seem so.
23:58 rangi        hehe
23:58 rangi        https://twitter.com/oleonard/status/336269365307637760
23:58 jcamins      lol
23:59 dcook        hehe
23:59 jcamins      And you know what this means, right?
23:59 jcamins      I can make fennel salad and eat dinner!