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23:59 tweetbot [off] twitter: @Ngaideckard: "As a learning tool I am cataloguing my late father's book collection. He was a Cambridge scholar & had some obscure titles. Loving #Kohails"
23:39 tcohen SIP2 literature?
23:39 tcohen SIP2?
23:04 * mtompset shrugs.
23:04 mtompset Don't know.
23:02 tcohen unless you have a proxy messing in the middle, it shouldn't mind you're on an internal IP
22:58 mtompset I don't know either, really.
22:58 mtompset Your router probably redirects to your private IP address.
22:57 jcamins Anyway, webservices++
22:56 jcamins Not sure what it could be, then.
22:56 jcamins Huh.
22:56 mtompset Failed too.
22:56 jcamins Still, no danger of it being overly secure, eh?
22:56 * jcamins shudders.
22:56 mtompset Okay... going to try IE.
22:55 jcamins I went through the exact same thing- disabled the security plugins, it still didn't work, and eventually I realized it's because I had also turned on every single security precaution available directly in the browser.
22:55 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "I Street Press http://t.co/Z98MA9ku9M #KohaILS"
22:54 jcamins mtompset: XSS blocking is built into FF/Chrome.
22:54 mtompset I turned off NoScript in my firefox, and it still failed.
22:53 mtompset I was thinking 25 hours away from a Dr. Who episode. ;)
22:53 pianohacker 5 o'clock somewhere?
22:52 jcamins You know what time it is?
22:52 mtompset Okay... let me check that.
22:51 jcamins I ran into problems with that.
22:51 jcamins Or login.persona.org.
22:51 jcamins mtompset: do you have XSS globally disabled? You have to allow XSS for persona.org.
22:50 mtompset The redirect back part is a little broken right now. :)
22:49 mtompset So, simplesamlphp does the authentication, and then will redirect back. :)
22:49 mtompset And then I copied and modified the default simplesamlphp authenticate.php file. :)
22:49 mtompset Well, what I'm hacking right now, you tell it the URL to redirect to.
22:47 mtompset ARG! Facebook isn't sending me the security code!
22:45 mtompset I bet it will work for a public IP/name. :)
22:43 mtompset Nope. Can't log in persona on my 192.168.45.200
22:42 mtompset Let me git reset --hard this branch.
22:42 jcamins Odd.
22:42 jcamins I tried it on a VM.
22:42 mtompset I can't log in using persona.
22:42 jcamins Pretty sure.
22:41 mtompset Are you sure?
22:41 jcamins mtompset: that doesn't matter.
22:41 mtompset Strange, I can't log in.. Oh wait! My IP address is private.
22:40 tcohen i'll try to reproduce what I saw, it might be a false positive anyway
22:39 jcamins I tested it and it didn't seem to cause any problems for non-SIP instances, and definitely was a huge improvement if you were using SIP.
22:39 jcamins tcohen: it starts SIP for SIP-enabled instances, I think.
22:39 mtompset Hmm.... I can't get a persona log in to work... let's switch branches.
22:39 tcohen if you install koha-common, out of the box it starts SIP things
22:38 jcamins Set the users, etc.
22:38 jcamins *it
22:38 jcamins tcohen: you have to enable ti.
22:38 tcohen packages try to start some SIP stuff
22:37 tcohen jcamins, does the SIP related stuff need some extra setup to work?
22:35 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
22:35 tcohen @later tell eythian what do u think of having an /etc/default/koha-common file for some configurations? like ENABLE_SIP and such
22:34 mtompset I don't count those. :P
22:34 mtompset print query->redirect.
22:33 jcamins mtompset: checkauth.
22:33 tcohen oh, i always forget... i even have a clock widget with NZ time, but just hour and minutes
22:32 mtompset I just did a grep for print on Auth.pm
22:32 jcamins tcohen: it's Saturday there, so probably not.
22:32 tcohen eythian around?
22:32 mtompset That's not a print. :P
22:32 jcamins I absolutely believe it.
22:32 tcohen my $template_name = ( $type eq 'opac' ) ? 'opac-auth.tmpl' : 'auth.tmpl';
22:31 mtompset Auth.pm?! I call B$.
22:31 tcohen it also prints pages!
22:30 mtompset for redirects. :P
22:29 tcohen :-P
22:29 tcohen Auth.pm prints to STDOUT
22:29 mtompset pianohacker: Actually, Auth.pm isn't such a mess *IF* you bloody indent the thing sensibly. ;)
22:28 mtompset Ah.
22:28 jcamins I thought that was the way Apache authentication works. Turns out that is not so.
22:28 jcamins mtompset: that's not a problem. The problem is that I get CAS errors under Plack occasionally *even though I don't use CAS* because it's so tied up with everything.
22:27 pianohacker hell, you might improve something while you're there
22:27 tcohen oh, I get it
22:27 pianohacker it's such a mess, nobody would notice
22:27 mtompset You would still need to hack up Auth.pm
22:26 jcamins tcohen: right... if you're not using Shibboleth, it shouldn't have any impact.
22:26 jcamins My objection was based on a mistaken belief that mod_shib would require smashing bits of Shibboleth into everything.
22:26 tcohen without?
22:25 jcamins So I wouldn't have any objection.
22:25 jcamins Well, rangi and I discussed it, and it sounds like it would be possible to add support for mod_shib without -- as is the case with CAS -- making it a core functionality.
22:25 mtompset The community is open to assistance to get it to other platforms.
22:25 tcohen and ends with n :-P
22:25 * mtompset chuckles.
22:25 tcohen erhmm, unless its name starts with Debia
22:24 mtompset and that seems to be against the philosophy of this community. We don't want to intentionally tie people to things.
22:24 tcohen oh, that's for sure
22:23 mtompset Not sure but the use of mod_shib means tying people to apache2.
22:22 tcohen mtompset: does mod_shib need it on the same host?
22:17 tcohen gotta change this damn wifi router for once
22:15 * jcamins leaves, since he apparently can't communicate.
22:15 jcamins *feel free
22:15 jcamins Please feel to remove one.
22:15 jcamins I only needed one of "Exactly" or "Yup."
22:15 jcamins Exactly. Yup. So the Persona authentication server (whatever they call it, I've forgotten) can be anywhere accessible to the Koha server.
22:13 mtompset Persona seems to do a callback. tickled by Koha, and then it passed nice things back.
22:11 mtompset I haven't looked at the persona code bits.
22:11 * jcamins is pro-Persona-like authentication.
22:10 jcamins You should make the authentication work like Persona.
22:10 mtompset To which I say, "No! I want my IdP whereever it wants to be. Run free IdP."
22:09 mtompset I figured out that they did the shibboleth server on the same koha machine, so they could mod_shib the environment variables over.
22:09 mtompset My hacking around with the biblibre patch has proved interesting.
22:09 mtompset Likewise.
22:07 pianohacker mtompset: Good to meet you :)
22:07 mtompset No, this was a bunch of pleasantries before. I'm sure... However, I'm too lazy to hunt the irc logs. :P
22:06 tcohen pianohacker is the one gmacharlt always gets quotes from when he asks for some ramdom quote
22:06 mtompset I'm Mark Tompsett. I am secon-ded to SIL Asia Area to work on their Koha library project, and whatever else falls on my plate.
22:06 pianohacker sounds right
22:05 mtompset We have typed ever so briefly, if my horrible memory servers correctly. However, it was just pleasantries before.
22:05 pianohacker mtompset: hello. I don't think we've met, actually. I'm Jesse Weaver, a summer intern with ByWater
22:04 larryb howdy Dr.
22:04 drnoe howdy larryb
22:04 druthb :P
22:04 larryb sorry hey druthb
22:03 larryb heya drnoe
22:03 mtompset pianohacker: Spaces are semantically important. :P
22:03 druthb Hi, larryb! :)
22:03 druthb hi, mtompset! :)
22:03 * druthb blinks
22:03 * mtompset pokes pianohacker, "Goof!"
22:03 gmcharltdruthbpianohackertcohe ahh, one too short!
22:02 pianohacker hmm
22:02 pianohacker hell of a name, that
22:02 mtompset Greetings, gmcharlt druthb pianohacker tcohen.
22:02 pianohacker it's not the weekend yet! Fight the kiwis!
22:01 mtompset Wow! Hardly any scroll back. It must be the weekend. ;)
22:00 tcohen eythian around?
21:54 cait night :)
21:49 pianohacker :|
21:49 cait :)
21:47 druthb :)
21:46 pianohacker cool
21:46 pianohacker right! I remember that trickling across my linkedin
21:45 druthb Nick Koston, CEO of cPanel.
21:45 pianohacker Who is your boss, anyway?
21:45 druthb Uber_geeky_boss++
21:45 pianohacker holy cow, nic
21:45 * pianohacker was hoping to have implant for that, will have to watch Pacific Rim instead :)
21:44 druthb Courtesy of my boss, who bought out a *whole showing* for his employees.
21:44 pianohacker dang
21:44 pianohacker wow, is that out already?
21:44 * druthb is gonna go see the new Star Trek movie tonight. Woot!
21:44 cait the qa queue is full... always... lots to do :)
21:43 gmcharlt hi pianohacker
21:43 pianohacker hallo again gmcharlt
21:43 gmcharlt but yes, I am :)
21:43 gmcharlt cait: meep
21:43 cait gmcharlt: feeling ready? :)
21:43 huginn cait: Quote #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_6368_nepali_food.jpg" (added by wasabi at 10:22 AM, January 27, 2011)
21:43 cait @quote random
21:43 cait :)
21:42 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current Koha. Is pretty dreamy already." (added by gmcharlt at 02:44 AM, October 29, 2010)
21:42 gmcharlt @quote random
20:13 mtompset You too, oleonard.
20:10 oleonard Have a good weekend #koha
20:09 druthb I'll be doing a pull request in about 16 hours. Tomorrow morning, US Central time.
20:09 cait <http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-translate/2013-May/002184.html
20:08 cait not much longer
20:07 oleonard How long do translators have?
20:05 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
20:01 cait hope i didn't miss something
20:01 cait hm looks good
19:56 druthb yes, you should, cait.
19:56 cait hm i should give the german translation files a last check up
19:55 lavamind see ya!
19:52 tcohen bye #koha
19:47 cait marcelr++
19:39 jcamins Looks good to me.
19:39 cait oleonard++
19:39 cait thx oleonard :)
19:36 cait jcamins: what do you think abou tbug 9824?
19:29 cait yay :)
19:27 oleonard Looks good to me cait
19:22 cait i wouldn' have expected that to work
19:21 cait using strins that already exist in the po file
19:21 oleonard What's the "trick" ?
19:19 oleonard Okay
19:19 cait i have attached my follow up
19:19 cait oleonard: if you could take a look now...?
19:16 cait well, we are cheating a little here... but it seems to work
19:16 cait by tricking the translation system :P
19:16 cait trying to figure out a solution that makes everyone happy i gues
19:15 cait true :)
19:15 oleonard It's the bug of the day!
19:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Hide basket with no expected items in basket list by bookseller
19:15 cait i am sending a follow up for bug 9824
19:14 cait probably not as pretty as if you would have done it
19:14 cait not hard :)
19:14 oleonard Depends how hard it is cait ;)
19:14 cait someone aorund for a sign off maybe? :)
19:13 * cait checks if it breaks translations
19:11 cait hm i think i got it working
19:07 cait having only 0 and 1 was painful
19:07 pianohacker that syntax was painful. like, coldfusion levels of painful
19:07 pianohacker Yeah. <!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="abcd" --> vs [% abcd %]
19:07 oleonard I remember it every time I try to git blame something that happened before TT2
19:05 cait it's actually hard to believe, isn't it?
19:04 pianohacker Forgot we hadn't always been in the wonderful land of TT2
19:04 cait weird bug memory strikes again!
19:04 pianohacker oh right! Forgot about that
19:04 cait i actually found what I was looking for by searching bugzilla for shim :P
19:04 jcamins Fortunately, it works.
19:04 huginn 04Bug 8033: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Failed QA , add print receipt option to Koha self-check
19:03 cait see here :) http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8033#c3
19:03 jcamins Yes, $template->param() is a shim, and wrong.
19:03 pianohacker That reminds me of another question I had. I've noticed that a lot of scripts seem to be setting things that way, rather than using $template->param(). Is there a reason for that?
19:02 cait template variable is $template->{VARS}->{'something'}
19:01 cait hmmm
19:01 cait template variable?
18:59 pianohacker oleonard: nice
18:57 cait ah opac is almost done
18:57 cait would have been nice ot have arabic to show off the new screens :)
18:57 oleonard pianohacker: I'm working on a replacement/overhaul of CCSR which I hope will be the primary theme eventually
18:57 cait jcamins: yep
18:57 jcamins cait: Chinese (Taiwan) is nearly done, and that's the one that seems to be more-used.
18:57 * cait looks at oleonard :)
18:56 cait so probably not before 3.12.1
18:56 cait and arabic - but they got quite a lot to do
18:56 pianohacker Is ccsr intended to be the primary theme going forward?
18:56 cait i hope chinese makes it :)
18:56 cait well ccsr misses 12... normal opac a lot more
18:56 * oleonard suspects some Greeks might
18:56 jcamins Not me.
18:56 cait does someone speak greek?
18:56 cait hm missing 12
18:55 cait opac probably is
18:55 cait i think they trained them
18:55 jcamins Wasn't BibLibre working with a library to complete the Greek translation?
18:55 wahanui cait: The server at bofh.engr.wisc.edu (port 666) appears to be down.
18:55 cait excuse?
18:55 cait long week?
18:55 cait sorry :)
18:55 cait lol
18:55 cait oh found it
18:54 oleonard http://translate.koha-community.org/projects/312/
18:54 cait jcamins: how do you check it by version?
18:54 cait hehe
18:53 * oleonard encourages the Slovaks to stop by #koha sometime even though none of them understood my bad Czech when I visited
18:53 jcamins Turkish is so close!
18:52 jcamins oleonard: nor did I, but apparently we've had a good Slovak translation for a while.
18:52 oleonard Wow I didn't expect to see Slovak in the top 5.
18:52 jcamins 3.10 had a total of ten at 90%+.
18:51 tcohen heh, i'll start translating en-bad_spoken
18:51 jcamins Five complete translations, and another nine at 90% or more.
18:51 oleonard Great work tcohen! Now, what other languages do you speak? :)
18:50 cait tcohen++
18:50 cait congrats :)
18:49 jcamins woohoo! You made it!
18:49 * tcohen is proud to say es-ES is 100%
18:47 tweetbot [off] twitter: @SanOrSuzanne: "Heading back to LV after a great few days of #KohaILS training with @ByWaterSolution & @nengard"
17:53 JoeLib001 Bye
16:52 oleonard ?
16:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Customize CSS for mobile
16:52 oleonard Is Bug 9558 not solved by use of the OPACMobileUserCSS system preference/
16:45 oleonard We need to find someone who's enough of a hermit and/or masochist to want to be RM for more than one term.
16:43 * jcamins contemplates that happy thought, and goes to eat lunch.
16:39 jcamins Free!
16:39 jcamins On Wednesday at the latest we are both free.
16:38 jcamins oleonard: right.
16:37 oleonard So rangi is officially no longer release maintainer for 3.10.x? That is, the next 3.10.x release is his last?
16:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Use Koha::Cache everywhere
16:37 jcamins There might be something in bug 8089, but I suspect not.
16:36 jcamins Yeah, during my phase when I was trying to fix caching for Plack, rather than simply disabling it.
16:34 pianohacker true. I would be curious to see benchmarks on that, actually, as it sounds like you've already investigated this
16:33 jcamins Only some of them.
16:33 pianohacker true; they're fetched in Auth.pm regardless, though
16:32 jcamins Because the majority of system preferences are never used.
16:32 pianohacker jcamins: Assuming your MySQL server isn't in Tibet, why would one large query be more expensive than 100 small ones?
16:31 jcamins Unfortunately, my benchmarks are not anywhere I can see.
16:29 jcamins pianohacker: fetching *all* the sysprefs is a bit pricey.
16:29 gaetan_B1 bye !
16:27 pianohacker Would save us a query, and if a script is using a variable with the same name, it'll just override it
16:26 pianohacker I was wondering; would there be any real problem with just fetching all of the system preferences at once and throwing them into the template variables?
16:23 oleonard Thanks for your input pianohacker and jcamins
16:23 jcamins oleonard: not enough overhead to care, IMO.
15:57 pianohacker It would be _some_ overhead, though to my knowledge it's never come up in profiling
15:55 oleonard For instance, should there be a rule: "If a preference is used by more than X pages add it in Auth.pm, otherwise handle it in the .pl file"
15:54 oleonard Does adding a system preference as a template param in Auth.pm involve some overhead that one should be concerned about? I'm wondering about the decision whether or not to add something there
15:52 reiveune bye
15:14 jcamins Right.
15:14 tcohen 'relieve'
15:14 tcohen understood!
15:14 tcohen i mean, in maps
15:14 tcohen oh. relief as a geographical term
15:14 jcamins I rarely catalog maps.
15:13 jcamins tcohen: ummm... I want to say that's how altitude/z-access geography is represented on a 2d map, but I'm not 100% sure that that's the only thing it refers to.
15:10 tcohen jcamins, do u have a coloquial explanation of 'relief type' for 006?
15:09 jcamins The 830 is used to create the link.
15:09 jcamins It's the 490 that needs a space.
15:09 jcamins I'm sorry, we only display 490, not 440. I was close.
15:09 jcamins oleonard: ... I didn't say it was a good guess. :P
15:08 oleonard jcamins: Then why does nengard see a problem with the display of 830?
15:07 jcamins oleonard: because we only show 440s? <-- just a guess
15:07 oleonard Sorry to wake you huginn :P
15:07 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #206: "There's a bug for that" (added by chrisc at 11:55 PM, May 24, 2012)
15:07 gmcharlt @quote random
15:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10265 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , 830 needs spaces in opac display
15:07 oleonard Anyone have any guesses as to why I can't get series info to show up in the OPAC at all? Trying to diagnose Bug 10265.
15:01 jcamins At least, my impression was that the new templates were in Spanish.
15:00 jcamins tcohen: One project already did that... and closed source.
14:59 tcohen :-P
14:59 tcohen hmm, shouldn't we make koha es-ES native?
14:59 jcamins I'm glad I don't have to translate.
14:57 JoeLib001 Sounds like an extra fun chore. XD
14:57 * oleonard cheers tcohen!
14:57 JoeLib001 Hehe. ;-)
14:57 jcamins You can do it! Yay tcohen!
14:57 tcohen ok, 889 words to go es-ES!!
14:55 jcamins I don't see how.
14:55 jcamins Ummm...
14:54 JoeLib001 That could be done with a plugin though?
14:53 JoeLib001 Gotcha.
14:53 jcamins No, nothing in Koha that will do that, to my knowledge.
14:53 jcamins Oh, sorry, 945 not 952.
14:53 JoeLib001 I want to replicate the 050 Call Number in the 945 line.
14:53 jcamins (I don't remember the name, but you'll recognize it when you see it)
14:52 jcamins It's in the Cataloging section of the system preferences.
14:52 jcamins What you want is to set the call number source, or something like that.
14:52 jcamins JoeLib001: not really... it's a plugin that automatically assigns call numbers.
14:51 JoeLib001 Ah, ok. That is somewhat misleading. ;-)
14:51 oleonard JoeLib001: I could be wrong, but I think the callnumber.pl plugin is supposed to increment your call number based on other call numbers stored in items
14:43 JoeLib001 Is that not what the callnumber.pl plugin is supposed to do when I set it in the MARC Structure?
14:42 JoeLib001 I want it to auto fill say the 945 field subfield g with the call number in the 050 field.
14:41 oleonard What do you want it to do?
14:41 JoeLib001 Well, it at least doesn't seem to be doing what I want it do. XD
14:40 JoeLib001 Hello, I am trying to automatically fill in subfields in a 945 field with data from other fields. I was thinking that the plugins in the MARC Structure would do that, but it doesn't seem to be working.
14:20 lavamind yes
14:20 tcohen Jerome :-D
14:19 tcohen who are you?
14:19 lavamind tcohen: did you get my email ?
14:18 tcohen lavamind: would you try changing /bin/sh for /bin/bash?
14:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basqket list by bookseller
14:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10266 normal, P5 - low, ---, rkk0, Pushed to Master , Restricted status doesn't show in OPAC
14:02 jenkins_koha * Lyon3 Team: Bug 9824 - Hide basket with no expected items in basqket list by bookseller
14:02 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Rafal Kopaczka to the history
14:02 jenkins_koha * Rafal Kopaczka: Bug 10266 - Statuses not appearing in the OPAC
14:02 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1177: SUCCESS in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1177/
13:33 oleonard What a flurry of bug activity. Where were you guys on GBSD? :P
12:51 kf hi andrzej
12:51 kf new developer!! :)
12:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #1177 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
12:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basqket list by bookseller
12:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10266 normal, P5 - low, ---, rkk0, Pushed to Master , Restricted status doesn't show in OPAC
12:50 jenkins_koha * Lyon3 Team: Bug 9824 - Hide basket with no expected items in basqket list by bookseller
12:50 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Rafal Kopaczka to the history
12:50 jenkins_koha * Rafal Kopaczka: Bug 10266 - Statuses not appearing in the OPAC
12:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #35: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/35/
12:28 kf tcohen: it always takes longer than you think... probably best to finish as early as possible
12:22 tcohen So is druthb the one I have to hand some cookies to
12:21 tcohen It's no p, but wanted to plan my day
12:20 tcohen bgkriegel is on a trip these days, I have to finish it today on my own
12:20 jcamins tcohen: it depends when I get them from druthb.
12:19 kf only joking *hands tcohen cookies*
12:19 kf tcohen: don't say you aren't done yet? ;)
12:19 tcohen What time are you merging translations tomorrow jcamins
12:17 oleonard Hi
12:15 kf morning tcohen .)
12:15 tcohen Mornin
12:13 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9824' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=309037c904ff8746a9237474d31f842cbb68dc99> / Bug 9824 - Hide basket with no expected items in basqket list by bookseller <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0a6d6e64bca28b4d9bc668f614ed286b07327f9> / Merge branch 'bug_10266' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
12:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #35 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9824 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Hide basket with no expected items in basqket list by bookseller
12:05 jcamins I pushed bug 9824. I trust that someone will fix it properly after the release.
10:16 kf wizzyrea++
09:40 samuel ok
09:38 wizzyrea easy way to get your repo into a hot mess.
09:38 wizzyrea I probably wouldn't rm -rf .git/rebase-apply
09:38 wizzyrea just checkout whichever file had the conflicts
09:38 wizzyrea if you do, don't reset
09:38 wizzyrea assuming you don't have anything else besides the am
09:38 wizzyrea git reset --hard HEAD^
09:38 wizzyrea then
09:38 wizzyrea git am --abort
09:38 wizzyrea it would probably be better to
09:28 samuel i've a question about git . When i 've the following message "It looks like git-am is in progress. Cannot rebase.", can i just do a 'rm -rf .git/rebase-apply` to solve it?
09:27 samuel hi everybody :-)
08:34 kf so perhaps better to get something in now (hopefully)
08:34 kf but i suspected using the plugins wouldn't result in a string safe patch maybe
08:34 kf wizzyrea: yeah i think it woudl be good to make more use of the plugins
08:33 wizzyrea probably worth it in the end
08:33 wizzyrea yea, it would be quite a lot of work to use the plugin
08:27 kf before the release :)
08:27 kf would be nice if jared pushes it
08:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10266 normal, P5 - low, ---, rkk0, Passed QA , Restricted status doesn't show in OPAC
08:14 wizzyrea kf++ thanks for bug 10266
08:06 christophe_c hi mtj ;-)
08:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10267 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No error message when entering an invalid cardnumber
08:05 kf bug 10267
08:03 kf and koha doesn't give a useful error
08:03 kf carnumber is varchar16
08:03 mtj aaah, good spotting
08:02 kf the cardnumer was too long by one
08:02 kf mtj: can't access error logs on this server
08:02 kf we solved it :)
08:01 mtj kf, the error log should have some info, when it fails
08:00 mtj ok, good luck :)
07:58 kf will have to investigate what's going wrong here
07:58 kf thx mtj
07:58 mtj kf, works OK for me, on 3.11.00.301
07:56 mtj hiya christophe_c
07:54 christophe_c hello #koha
07:54 mtj i should make a bug for them
07:54 mtj i just ecently upgraded to wheezy, so fixing a few missing packages...
07:52 kf we have one installation where it does not work and another where it does... and both supposedly on the same version
07:51 kf does it work? for you?
07:48 mtj np
07:47 kf toomany windows
07:47 kf sorry for the delay :)
07:47 kf close to master or master
07:46 wahanui i think version is always noted in a comment on top
07:46 mtj ok, what version?
07:44 kf and thx mtj :)
07:43 kf and then try to change the cardnumber you entered
07:43 kf create a patron
07:41 mtj- what do you need testing?
07:41 mtj- hi kf
07:33 kf can someone test something for me?
07:33 kf morning
07:33 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
07:33 huginn GERMS!!!!
07:03 dcook Errr...good morning for non-Oz/Nz folk :)
07:03 dcook Let the weekend begin!
07:03 * dcook is really glad that he figured out the item-level XSLT
06:58 wahanui kai ora, gaetan_B
06:58 gaetan_B hello
06:52 dcook salut alex_a
06:50 alex_a bonjour
06:45 dcook That would do it
06:45 dcook sub buildKohaItemsNamespace
06:45 dcook Aha!
06:43 reiveune :)
06:42 wahanui well, reiveune is working for biblibre
06:42 dcook hey reiveune
06:40 reiveune hello
06:40 wahanui kai ora, reiveune
06:40 reiveune hello
06:15 dcook Which includes the 952s..
06:15 dcook Yeah, looks like the results uses the full marc record passed back from Zebra
06:15 dcook Makes sense
06:13 cait which is why sometiems you get confusing displays when your zebra indexes are not in sync
06:13 cait the items on the detail pages are not
06:13 cait hm you are right, the items in the result list are from the marc
06:13 cait only bibliographic
06:13 dcook items:status and item-by-status is news to me..
06:12 dcook I figure it has to do with the marc items namespace?
06:12 dcook Ok, maybe the handling of items in the search result XSLT throws me for a bit of a loop...
05:54 dcook Although..
05:53 dcook I suppose so since the item data comes from the DB
05:53 dcook Hmm, does the XSLT just handle bibliographic - not item data?
05:50 dcook Hmm, I think I more or less get these XSLTs...
05:21 dcook 3:20. Only 1.3 hours until beer!
04:48 cjh dcook: beer o clock is about 4pm
04:48 dcook Awesome. I was going to before but got side-tracked
04:47 cait dcook: i think i reported a bug somehwere for no errror message when your branchcode prevents items from being added
04:46 dcook How many hours 'til beer o'clock in Sydney..
04:46 dcook That moment when you think you've deleted everything...
04:28 cait hi dcook :)
04:26 dcook hey ya cait :)
04:20 cait hi #koha
04:19 cait hi :)
04:17 * druthb pouncehugs cait
04:17 * eythian notes that it's beer o'clock.
04:06 dcook And a bit of wind judging from the tree on the roof next to me
04:06 dcook Blue skies!
04:06 dcook Yeah!
04:05 eythian they let you see outside, and everything!
04:04 dcook windows are great.
04:04 dcook Well, Windows
04:04 dcook If that wasn't clear :p
04:04 dcook But not of windows
04:04 * dcook is a fan of good metadata
04:04 dcook It is a good chance to clean up records
04:04 dcook I figured that the systems librarian could do it in about 15-30 minutes and then 1-2 people could fix some stickers
04:03 dcook We had to plan a reclassification project in terms of staff time for 6-8 people
04:03 eythian often they'll use it as a chance to clean up records though.
04:03 dcook Although that does remind me of my cataloguing class..
04:03 eythian yeah
04:03 dcook How many libraries have the staff time to really do work like that?
04:03 dcook I mean...
04:03 dcook Mind you, how many librarians really want to do work like that?
04:03 dcook Right, I just mean in terms of "fixing" things up in the end
04:02 * dcook dislikes working with windows shares...
04:02 eythian it needs to be scriptable anyway.
04:02 dcook haha, fair enough
04:02 eythian well, easy to say, I just don't have numbers.
04:02 eythian hard to say.
04:01 dcook If you can keep a count of the dupes, you might be able to pass that off to a cataloguer..
04:01 dcook How many records?
04:01 eythian and I'm not going to fix them all by hand :)
04:01 dcook Mmm, that's true
04:01 eythian the problem here is that I don't know that it'll always be a translated title, or just another way of writing it.
04:00 eythian well, it's not unreasonable. At least then it can be fixed.
04:00 dcook Too bad the 242 is so specific
04:00 eythian heh
03:59 dcook If you're going to make an error, make it consistently
03:59 dcook Paraphrased
03:59 dcook My favourite cataloguing adage
03:58 dcook Cool beans
03:58 eythian they show as "other titles"
03:58 eythian they are/do
03:58 dcook Are they indexed?
03:58 dcook Do they care about other languages, do the 246s appear in the detail page and/or search results?
03:58 dcook user(s)
03:58 dcook Ultimately, it depends on your user
03:57 eythian yeah. I think varying form of title will be close enough
03:57 dcook Yeah, I guess the best thing to do would probably just to make it a 246 :/
03:57 dcook I suppose you might be able to cheat a bit about put the = after the 245$a (at the start of thte 245$b), but that assumes you don't already have a 245$b..
03:56 dcook Good ol' parallel titles
03:56 dcook Yeah..
03:56 eythian that is, into 245$b following an ' = '
03:55 eythian really, the second 245 should become a translated title, but there's no way to know that programatically
03:55 dcook Huh..
03:55 dcook Ahhh
03:55 eythian like that
03:55 eythian 246 _aWelcome to Archives New Zealand
03:55 eythian 245 0 _aTe Rua Mahara o te Kawanatanga, nau mai, haere mai [videorecording]
03:55 eythian 245 0 _aArchives New Zealand [videorecording]
03:54 dcook Might be an idea. What sorts of multiples are they?
03:54 eythian I think if I see multiple 245 records, I'll turn all but the first into 246.
03:53 dcook Indeed
03:53 wahanui okay, eythian.
03:53 eythian which is also not allowed in MARC.
03:53 dcook Mmm
03:53 eythian it actually has _two_ 245s and a 246, but my process was removing the 245s.
03:52 dcook Well, we didn't want to say anything...:p
03:52 eythian no, it's my fault.
03:52 dcook Or a bad migration in the past
03:52 eythian ahh
03:52 wizzyrea that really sounds like a crazy cataloger.
03:52 dcook Bizarre
03:52 eythian just the 246.
03:51 dcook Other than the 246 variant?
03:51 dcook So there's no title field anywhere?
03:50 eythian narp
03:50 dcook Is there a 240?
03:50 wahanui unless is probably meant to give code that reads more like natural language? but i'm not a fan either
03:50 dcook Unless...
03:50 dcook Off the top of my head, I don't think so
03:50 * eythian wonders if 246 but no 245 is a sensible thing to see.
03:42 trea sorted
03:41 wizzyrea ^
03:40 ibeardslee = Inbox Zero
03:40 ibeardslee Ctrl+A, Shift+Del
03:39 dcook night jcamins. Thanks again for that database tip
03:38 * jcamins heads to bed, having gotten to within striking distance of Inbox Zero... for the second time today.
03:38 * dcook thumbs up
03:36 jcamins It works well. They get cookies, I get A) an excuse to bake, and B) reimbursed for ingredients.
03:29 dcook Lucky friends :)
03:28 jcamins dcook: I bake cookies for a lot of my friends.
03:27 dcook Mmm cookies
03:25 wizzyrea http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/cookie%20monster%20gif
03:25 * dcook successfully stored and retrieved his pdf without blowing anything up :)
03:24 dcook cookies*
03:24 dcook I don't think I know anyone else who makes as many cookie
03:24 dcook I'm just curious if jcamins and his wife eat them all
03:24 dcook Well, they're not going into my mouth.
03:23 eythian where do you think cookies go?
03:22 eythian ...
03:22 dcook Where do all the cookies go?
03:20 jcamins They are!
03:17 dcook Mmm, those look delicious, jcamins
03:16 * dcook remedies the problem and prepares for explosion
03:16 jcamins Well, the cookies bore more than a passing resemblence to those, anyway.
03:15 * druthb blinks
03:15 druthb Peter Piper picked a peck...
03:15 jcamins Came out really good.
03:15 jcamins dcook: http://recipes.howstuffworks.com/double-chocolate-cranberry-chunkies-recipe.htm
03:15 wizzyrea "Buffalo bison that other Buffalo bison bully, themselves bully Buffalo bison.
03:15 dcook Ah, that's because I'm an idiot
03:14 dcook It's a good sign that the computer hasn't exploded..
03:14 * dcook actually works
03:14 dcook Also what kind of cookies, jcamins?
03:14 dcook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo
03:14 mtompset Have a great day, everyone.
03:14 dcook Speaking of which..
03:14 dcook The nerd in me couldn't help but concentrate on the extra s
03:14 dcook I think bison is also plural and singular
03:13 jcamins It totally ruins the joke when the sentence is incoherent.
03:13 dcook [off] Sound like Americans coming up to BC
03:13 jcamins I shouldn't IRC and put away cookies at the same time.
03:13 jcamins *there are
03:11 jcamins There bisons coming all the way from across the Atlantic just for some grass.
03:11 jcamins And, by the way, Polish bison grass is the best.
03:10 jcamins Vodka is made from several starches.
03:09 wizzyrea lol :)
03:09 dcook Everytime I hear the word "pants", in any context, I think of that video you sent me
03:09 wizzyrea it's interrupting my previously selected musical work accompaniment. This aggression will not stand, man.
03:09 dcook hehe
03:09 wizzyrea their website is pants.
03:08 dcook Wikipedia says differently it seems
03:08 * dcook too
03:08 * wizzyrea thought vodka was made out of potatoes
03:08 * wizzyrea has no idea
03:08 dcook I wonder what the least original Polish vodka brand is..
03:07 dcook One of the most original Polish vodka brands, eh?
03:07 dcook http://www.zubrowka.com/
03:07 wizzyrea still nothin.
03:06 eythian it's made from real Polish bison grass.
03:05 wizzyrea no, those words do not make sense together for me.
03:05 wizzyrea in polish
03:05 dcook Polish bison grass vodka would've probably made more sense too
03:05 wizzyrea do not, I probably wouldn't actually say the aforementioned w
03:05 dcook Have to love English sometimes
03:05 wizzyrea not paw lish
03:04 wizzyrea oh PO lish
03:04 wizzyrea I read "bison grass polish" and thought... that exists?
03:04 dcook Haven't tried it yet though. I hear it's amazing.
03:04 * dcook recently got some Bison Grass Polish vodka...
03:03 dcook Good ol' xkcd
02:49 mtompset I'm sure you all knew that was coming. :)
02:49 mtompset http://xkcd.com/323/
02:48 mtompset All this beer talk makes me think of a comic.
02:47 dcook There is a wine shop nearly within spitting distance..
02:47 dcook Really need to get a beer fridge at work...
02:46 dcook All I have is a coke zero and some cough drops :/
02:46 dcook hehe
02:43 jcamins Wise.
02:43 * eythian has two bottles of whisky at work with me today to put a lie to the other option :)
02:43 eythian heh
02:43 dcook ;)
02:43 eythian (Millenium, that is)
02:43 dcook Millennium or liquor?
02:42 eythian I don't think that's much of a thing in these parts.
02:42 druthb ...and if you ever get to do a Millenium serials conversion.... well, start by finding and purchasing the *largest* bottle you can find of your favorite liquor...
02:41 eythian heh
02:41 druthb The wierder the data, the *more* likely it is you will torque off a cataloger by tinkering with it. They're *proud* of their mental wierdness.
02:41 jcamins Nice!
02:41 jcamins lol
02:41 eythian in fact, the only title information is a single subtitle
02:40 eythian and one that has no 222 nor a 254$a
02:40 wizzyrea "special"
02:40 jcamins GERMS!
02:40 eythian (of course, some other records are really ... different quality. Like no ISBD punctuation.)
02:39 jcamins Understandably.
02:39 eythian just no 245$a which was throwing my conversion off :)
02:39 eythian these records are actually pretty complete, it has 210$a, 222$a, 245$b, and 246$a
02:38 druthb slightly less chance of pissing off the catalogers. Don't mess with their wierd data.
02:38 eythian yep
02:38 jcamins Unless they already have a 245$a, in which case you can leave it.
02:38 eythian probably more sensible.
02:38 eythian that's also a valid option.
02:38 jcamins It looks to me like you need to copy the 222$a into 245$a, and then keep the 222 as-is.
02:38 eythian the problem is that Koha doesn't seem to handle 222.
02:37 eythian should I just merge the 222 and 245 into a 245?
02:37 jcamins [off] Yes... I find it to mean that your catalogers are mental, and probably professional serials catalogers. :P
02:37 eythian they are serials
02:36 eythian jcamins: I have some records with a 222$a and a 245$b (no 245$a.) Is this something you'd find meaningful?
02:31 dcook Cool beans
02:31 dcook I might not worry, but I like to know things ;)
02:30 cjh it doesnt matter, but that is why the keys are sorted in canonical form.
02:30 dcook I think I gotcha now
02:30 dcook Ohhh, that kind of hashing
02:30 cjh dcook: you dont have to worry about it :)
02:30 dcook cjh: I'm not sure that I follow.
02:30 dcook Very much appreciated, jcamins :)
02:29 jcamins Probably obvious, but...
02:28 jcamins And I was pointing that out to clarify that if keys are ordered, that doesn't make it an array.
02:28 * dcook frowns
02:28 cjh canonical representation is often used for hashing, the same json value should always give the same hash, so they format it to allow this (remove whitespace, sort keys, etc.)
02:28 jcamins dcook: none, except that you can get complaints about the JSON not being canonical when you use some parsers online.
02:27 dcook What's the significance of having the ordered keys?
02:22 jcamins *canonical representation
02:22 jcamins Though the canonical of an object has ordered keys.
02:21 dcook Love it
02:21 dcook Mmm, right
02:19 cjh yeah, unordered and key/value rather than offset/value :)
02:17 dcook Amongst other things I'm sure..
02:17 dcook And the difference is that an object is unordered while an array is ordered?
02:17 mtompset Hmmm... I thought I patched this silent warning before.
02:15 cjh yeap
02:14 dcook Then : delineates key-value pairs..
02:14 cjh <3 json
02:14 jcamins Exactly.
02:14 dcook [off] Yeah, I remember trying to figure out how it all nested together. Do the curly brackets { represent objects and the square brackets [ represent arrays?
02:13 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Issues json" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/12
02:12 jcamins Also, things like this...
02:12 jcamins [off] I spend a lot of time looking at things like this: http://demo.biblionarrator.com/record/77?format=json
02:12 dcook All the JSON!
02:12 * dcook really wants to play with the report web service in Koha :D
02:11 dcook Which really wasn't too hard but it was a first
02:11 dcook Got a bunch of JSON files and was told, "Now extract some urls from that"
02:11 dcook Mmm, I did do some JSON parsing earlier in the year
02:11 * jcamins is finding 2013 more the year of JSON.
02:11 dcook XPATH seems like second nature now
02:11 dcook And XPATH I guess
02:10 dcook I think 2013 is the year of XSL/XML pour moi :p
02:10 dcook Mind you, the 2000 dollar quote was ridiculous for a tiny data migration..
02:10 dcook I've played a bit with the XSLTs here and modified one in the past to go from inmagic tagged format to marcxml (\o/ saved the library 1800+ dollars by doing it myself)
02:09 dcook And possibly coach others in how to do that
02:09 dcook Or that I can maintain and develop it
02:09 dcook But I need to show that I can do that :p
02:09 jcamins :D
02:09 jcamins "Make the OPAC look like it's from the 2010s not the 2000s!"
02:09 dcook Once I get my box running Koha (hopefully this weekend), I'll use the XSLTs, and then make the case here
02:08 dcook But I'm not much of an expert on XSL...yet
02:08 dcook I just need to make the case to the boss
02:08 jcamins Not to mention nicer-looking.
02:08 dcook I know ;)
02:08 wizzyrea easier*
02:08 wizzyrea makes all that much easire
02:08 dcook I plan to
02:08 wizzyrea perhaps you should investigate it
02:08 dcook Nope :/
02:08 wizzyrea you don't use xslt?
02:08 dcook Or one subfield
02:08 * dcook truly dislikes editing the detail and result templates (and perl scripts) just to show one extra field
02:07 wizzyrea marky mark is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eSN8Cwit_s
02:07 dcook \o/
02:07 dcook I'm a fan of format-agnostic, but achieving it is another thing. I suppose you could do it through mappings..
02:07 jcamins I am decidedly anti-DB field-based stuff.
02:07 jcamins There it is!
02:07 eythian marky mark?
02:07 jcamins I was thinking something a bit more format-agnostic.
02:07 * dcook has had this issue routinely
02:06 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800
02:06 wizzyrea we should use more marc
02:06 dcook And there are going to be times when people want data from their bibliographic record which isn't stored in the database
02:06 dcook The only thing about not using marc is that you have to rely on the database
02:06 jcamins use more marc
02:06 dcook hehe
02:06 jcamins more marc!
02:06 jcamins how about more marc?
02:06 jcamins let's add more marc?
02:06 jcamins let's have more marc?
02:06 jcamins let's have more marc/
02:06 jcamins more marc?
02:06 jcamins Because...
02:06 dcook Mhm!
02:05 jcamins Except preferably not in a MARC-y way.
02:05 cjh it isnt very developer friendly either :p
02:05 dcook (Although I just saw the XSLT defaults for master and they look pretty swag)
02:05 jcamins What we really need is the ability to say "if the record is being accessed via the OPAC, these fields are (not) visible," etc.
02:05 dcook It's not very librarian/user friendly either
02:05 jcamins Well, four, if you count the two details and two results view.
02:05 jcamins cjh: only in one limited context.
01:59 cjh jcamins: isnt that what we currently do with xslt? although in xslt we also transform the data and lay it out.
01:59 druthb puh.
01:59 dcook Mmm, I could dig that for sure
01:57 * druthb watches the translation updates chugga chugga
01:57 jcamins So for example, you define a "public" view which includes such-and-such information, a "public save" view, a "staff export" view, etc., etc.
01:57 jcamins Yeah.
01:56 dcook Views?
01:56 jcamins What would be really useful would be "views" of MARC records.
01:56 dcook Because you never know what information you want to keep and what info you want to toss
01:56 dcook I guess that gets awfully complicated though
01:53 dcook Or on export
01:53 dcook Maybe "cleaning" the items on import would be an idea
01:53 dcook I definitely get the logic of having a lot of this information in the items table
01:52 dcook True true
01:52 jcamins Well, it makes sense- you don't want to do a lookup in issues every time you look at an item.
01:52 dcook I suppose some of this data shouldn't actually be in the items table
01:51 dcook Definitely problematic
01:50 jcamins That's why it's problematic: the items are out of sync with the rest of the catalog.
01:50 jcamins No, definitely not.
01:50 dcook I think issues would be the only other place and that's clear..
01:49 dcook I doubt that any associated records were created to match a problematic onloan status
01:49 dcook Yep :)
01:49 jcamins And reindex.
01:49 jcamins Or that.
01:49 dcook I just set the onloan column to null
01:48 jcamins If you check them out than check them back in it fixes it.
01:48 jcamins Oh, yeah, that can get problematic.
01:48 dcook Silly items. You're not onloan anymore.
01:47 dcook Hmm, importing items seems like a bad idea...
01:46 dcook Re-indexing Zebra and...all done!
01:45 jcamins \o/
01:44 dcook Good one, jcamins
01:44 dcook Huzzah! We have items!
01:44 dcook new old lib that is
01:43 dcook It should probably send up a fail message rather than 99 items added though in that case :/
01:43 dcook I'm going to try it out with a new lib
01:43 wizzyrea ^ would explain the items thing
01:42 dcook It would appear not
01:40 jcamins dcook: and you have libraries defined that match the ones in your sample data?
01:40 wahanui I know. That's why I said it.
01:40 jcamins Very true.
01:40 wahanui well, the problem with galley-style kitchens is that you get dizzy removing cookies from the baking sheet to put on the cooling rack.
01:40 jcamins The problem with galley-style kitchens?
01:37 dcook http://imgur.com/wb7Ox25
01:35 jcamins (because that's when it was broken... I thought)
01:34 jcamins Bug 9839 fixed item import only when "handle matching bibs" is set to "ignore."
01:33 dcook They just...haven't been
01:33 dcook Because it is saying that the items have been added
01:33 dcook Possibly?
01:33 jcamins \o/
01:33 jcamins Actually, I think that's a different bug.
01:32 jcamins Uh-oh.
01:32 dcook Mhm
01:32 wizzyrea ?
01:32 wizzyrea are you on master/
01:32 wizzyrea !
01:31 dcook :S
01:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9839 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , when importing MARC records, item record not created even when set to "always add"
01:31 dcook bug 9839
01:22 dcook According to Koha, 99 items have been added, but in fact it was 0...
01:22 dcook Hmm, I think someone already has reported a bug about items not being exported/imported...
01:19 dcook Maybe two
01:19 dcook At most, I think it's a kilo of frozen raspberries
01:18 dcook Touché
01:17 jcamins Yeah, but how many kilos of dried berries do you buy at a time?
01:17 dcook I'm not sure anything stays in our house longer than A week
01:17 dcook A few weeks?
01:17 dcook Thanks for the advice :). This looks much nicer now. I just need to import some records and I'm good to go.
01:16 jcamins This is kind of sad. I just bought cranberries a few weeks ago and I'm already nearly out.
01:16 jcamins Ah.
01:16 dcook jcamins: I think I'm more exuberant on Fridays ;)
01:12 jcamins dcook: you only hug people on Fridays? :P
01:07 dcook Yes, Friday
01:07 * dcook checks that it is Friday
01:06 dcook Hmm, you can tell it's Friday...
01:06 dcook I sort of want to hug you right now, jcamins
01:06 dcook ^_^
01:06 jcamins Yup.
01:06 dcook So I can just drop it, re-create it, and then go to the staff client and use the web installer?
01:06 dcook O_O
01:06 jcamins Follow the prompts.
01:06 jcamins Navigate to the staff client.
01:06 jcamins Nah, that's the hard way.
01:05 cjh dcook: import kohastructure.sql
01:05 dcook jcamins: Right, so drop, create, but...then how do you populate the database?
01:05 cjh I used to do the gitify process by hand for every dev instance >.>
01:05 cjh jcamins: simple enough to change now though ;)
01:05 cjh jcamins: I feel your pain.
01:04 jcamins cjh: my development system predates koha-gitify.
01:04 * mtompset smiles, "They are great, aren't they?"
01:04 cjh mtompset: I live in package wonderland :D
01:04 mtompset cjh: Only works for packages. :P
01:04 cjh drop database foo; create database foo;
01:04 jcamins create database koha;
01:04 dcook A new schema or using Koha scripts?
01:04 dcook jcamins: How do you mean recreate?
01:04 dcook cjh: If only...:(
01:03 cjh koha-remove and koha-create :)
01:03 * mtompset nods at jcamins, "Me too."
01:03 jcamins dcook: I usually drop the database, recreate the database, and go through the installer again.
01:03 dcook cjh: I might not chance it this time. Once I get a set up at home, perhaps
01:00 dcook lol, druthb
01:00 druthb lulz.. http://librarianproblems.com/post/50608334613/someone-asks-if-the-books-are-organized-by-title
00:59 dcook Yeah, I saw that, which got me thinking that it might work
00:59 cjh so it will wipe any data already in them :)
00:59 cjh just had a peek, kohastructure.sql has a 'drop table if exists' for each table
00:58 dcook More importantly...anyone have any idea why "message_transports" has a branchcode column?
00:55 dcook Then re-run updatedatabase.pl?
00:55 dcook Would it be enough to re-run "kohastructure.sql", the mysql/en/mandatory *.sql files, and maybe some optional ones?
00:54 dcook So I have a dev system which has a database that I want to "reset"
00:46 druthb Hi, mtompset!
00:46 mtompset Greetings, druthb.
00:43 * mtompset sighs, "I believe the shibboleth patch by biblibre must work using mod_shib. :( -- I can't seem to figure out how the environment variable gets set in the apache server otherwise."
00:36 mtompset I'm glad the build problems were resolved. :)
00:36 mtompset Greetings, #koha.