Time Nick Message 23:59 mtj wizzyrea, 1 tic... 23:58 wizzyrea the web interface seems to be up 23:57 wizzyrea anyway i tweeted at them - maybe they'll fix it. 23:57 wizzyrea right - other end it is then 23:57 eythian if it's from your desktop, you're not really firewalled for that sort of thing 23:56 wizzyrea I'm leaning towards problem on the other end 23:55 wizzyrea yea, I was trying to find out if it was a firewall thing or a problem at the other end 23:55 eythian I haven't tried for a while. 23:55 eythian wizzyrea: check, as we have some people set up on it, but I think it's often flakey. 23:55 wizzyrea can you connect to it from your yaz client? 23:55 dcook morning #koha 23:55 wizzyrea heh! 23:55 wizzyrea (since there are several) 23:55 eythian wizzyrea: I think that one is down more often than up 23:54 wizzyrea nlnzcat.natlib.govt.nz , specifically 23:53 wizzyrea and if they are able to 23:53 wizzyrea curious if you have any clients connecting to the national library z39 target 23:53 mtj sup, wizzyrea ? 23:52 mtj hey liz 23:51 wizzyrea mtj about? 23:36 wizzyrea http://www.z-brary.com/n.html 23:35 eythian I think we'd end up calling "system", or more likely, finding a module that does that sort of thing for us. 23:31 tcohen or will we end up calling system() for those steps? 23:31 tcohen if we wrote it in perl, do we already have dependencies defined for stuff like creating unix users ? 23:29 tcohen or we could just use a stack of completed steps 23:29 tcohen I think what someone proposed about just calling koha-remove could do it 23:26 eythian how do you propose to do it? (not that it's impossible to do an undo stack in bash, I just figured it'd be a lot easier in Perl) 23:23 tcohen rewriting in Perl could take longer 23:23 tcohen eythian: i've been reading koha-create, a refactoring using bash its doable in a couple of days (including testing) 23:13 eythian just makes for impressive pictures and grumpy drivers really. A few trees down in some parts. 23:12 eythian yeah, it's not too serious. 23:12 tcohen are u ok?? 23:12 eythian Across a lot of the country. Wellington, Auckland, Chch and other parts too. 23:11 tcohen or just christchurch? 23:11 tcohen across the whole country? 23:11 eythian surface flooding over many suburbs 23:10 eythian tcohen: a very large dose of rain overnight and earlier this morning 23:10 tcohen what happened eythian ? 23:10 cait heh 23:10 eythian probably because you live in a remote country 23:10 cait wow 23:09 cait loading quite slowly 23:08 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8636104/Wild-weather-hits-the-country <-- cait, this was this morning 22:59 mtj ...oops, forgot to restart tweetbot, when i rebooted on friday 22:58 tweetbot [off] twitter: @Hyperboreasrl: "Reportage dell'evento sul software #KohaILS per la #biblioteca del 19 aprile http://t.co/EB5U9Ik6vT http://t.co/JVBPSh5nkY @Kohails" 22:58 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Vote for your favorite feature idea on the official #KohaILS page: http://t.co/rnheQMYtom" 22:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Batch modifications for Biblios 22:58 tweetbot [off] twitter: @paul_poulain: "Bug 5725 in #KohaILS is batch modification of biblios. A long time expected feature, vote for it !" 22:58 tweetbot [off] twitter: @GaleciaGroup: "Did you know you could look up features in Koha and Evergreen at http://t.co/cFsRf1JpNl? #KohaILS #egils #libraries" 22:25 eythian heh we even had lightning last night, too, which is pretty rare for here. 22:24 eythian Mine just lost overhead power a couple of times for a few minutes, but it did have to take a diversion. 22:24 cjh so he brought the weather back with him, thanks eythian ! 22:24 cait we hadn't rain that bad since you left I think 22:24 cait eythian: ah 22:23 eythian (fortunately not mine) 22:23 eythian (some of them, anyway :) 22:23 eythian cait: today the busses here couldn't run because the streets were flooded 21:56 magnuse g'night #koha 21:51 cait good night drojf 21:51 drojf i'll try that sleep thing. maybe that is an option for you too, cait ;) good night #koha 21:48 cait lol 21:45 cjh heh 21:43 drojf oh, there is a holiday again on thursday… i'd rather have my phone delivered :/ 21:40 cait :) 21:37 drojf but the nz rain sounds nice too. i could use that now. as a background sound for sleeping :D 21:36 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 12.7°C (11:35 PM CEST on May 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 21:36 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:36 cait drojf: possible :) 21:35 drojf i think we had the nicest day this year so far 21:35 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 17.1°C (11:13 PM CEST on May 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 21:35 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 21:31 cjh oh wow! 21:30 cait the buses couldn't run because the road was flooded :) 21:30 cait ask robin about his last day when he tried to come to bsz :P 21:27 cjh it is wet. very very wet. 21:26 huginn` bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 22.0°C (6:00 PM ART on May 05, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 21:25 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina 21:23 bgkriegel http://wwlln.net/WWLLN_movies/Movie_of_Lightning_in_Pacific_BIG.gif 21:23 rangi it sure is 21:23 mtj wow, that is some weather outside, huh! 21:23 wizzyrea it's nice if you can stay inside with book and a cup of tea. 21:22 cait but I am a weird person 21:22 cait wizzyrea: i love rain :) 21:22 rangi thats more realistic 21:22 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8636104/Wild-weather-hits-North-Island-top-of-South 21:21 wizzyrea showers my ass. 21:21 huginn` rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (9:15 AM NZST on May 06, 2013). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Rising). 21:21 rangi @wunder nzwn 21:21 wizzyrea it's as if all of the rain we missed from this summer decided to come all at once 21:20 wizzyrea it's raining buckets here :) 21:10 bgkriegel somewhere yes, still sunday here :) 21:09 cait where is everyone tonight? isn't it mondy morning somewhere? :) 20:23 cait ah 20:23 wahanui cait: I forgot hi cait :) 20:23 cait forget hi cait :) 20:23 cait forget hi cait 20:23 cait forget hi cait? 20:23 wahanui Hi cait :) are you around ? 20:23 kathryn Hi cait :) 20:22 cait morning kathryn :) 19:48 cait so eight hours in the other direction? *ponders* 19:47 cait oh 19:47 jcamins Sunday. 19:37 * cait tries to get this timezones thing right 19:37 cait monday for you? 19:33 gmcharlt hi cait 19:33 cait hi gmcharlt :) 19:32 huginn` cait: Quote #131: "oleonard Yeah, huginn. Perv." (added by Brooke at 04:09 PM, May 04, 2011) 19:32 cait @quote random 19:32 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #14: "joetho: I only looked for missing ccodes- not dysfunctional orphans." (added by wizzyrea at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) 19:32 gmcharlt @quote random 19:18 cait heh 19:16 druthb Eat a bite, snooze...eat a bite, snooze.. 19:16 druthb The chicks are so cute! 19:13 cait wonder if the third egg should be so dark... and if it will hatch too 19:13 cait :) 19:13 cait ew 19:10 druthb ooooo...brought food back to the nest! 18:47 druthb yup. looks breezy, so they're all tucked in warm! 18:45 cait understandable :) 18:44 druthb Parent giving us the ebil eye. 18:44 druthb fuzzy! 18:43 druthb looks like, yah 18:43 cait 2 even? 18:43 cait fluffy babies 18:42 druthb oooooo...falcon! 17:42 * magnuse wanders off to make pizza 17:41 magnuse heh 17:41 cait get up!! 17:41 magnuse yeah 17:41 cait or is he...? 17:41 cait is she sitting on it? 17:41 cait and we missed it! 17:40 magnuse ooh one of the eggs have hatched http://www.library.umass.edu/falcons 16:30 jcamins Well, I'm not sure how the desk would take it, but also it would take several trips. 16:28 cait for the desk? 16:26 jcamins That's problematic. 16:26 jcamins 60lbs. 16:26 jcamins 12. 16:12 jcamins I have to figure out again how many I need. 16:10 jcamins I think I'll eat lunch then go out and buy some. 16:10 jcamins I just still need bricks. 16:10 jcamins Done! 16:07 * cait shrugs 16:05 jcamins Actually, it's exactly the right size. 16:05 * jcamins did so. 16:05 jcamins Bwahahaha! 16:04 jcamins Maybe what I should do is take the expanding bookend thing that Shari's been using. 16:03 jcamins I only have about... 50cm. 16:02 jcamins That's what I'd do, except I don't have space. 16:02 cait piles of books 16:02 cait I also use books as book ends.... 16:02 jcamins My problem is that most of the suggestions I find online assume that you want to keep your collection of mass market -- or, at best, trade -- paperbacks from falling over. 15:59 jcamins Nope. Though I suppose I could buy bookends, if it came to that. 15:59 cait but that's not your question again I guess :) 15:59 cait they are almost invisible and I like them for this 15:58 cait I have simple bookends made from metal 15:58 jcamins I know exactly what they need to do. They need to keep books from falling over. 15:58 jcamins I need to know what to use for bookends! 15:58 cait you are confusing me 15:58 jcamins Oh, no, I'm not asking what capabilities a good bookend should have. 15:57 jcamins Yes. 15:57 cait it holds the books in place? 15:57 cait hm 15:57 cait ? 15:57 jcamins What makes a good bookend? 15:57 cait hm 15:57 jcamins I need advice. 15:26 cait :) 15:19 jcamins Down to 847 lines. 15:17 jcamins It'd be nice if it alerted, but with offline circ you cannot have any assurance that a hold hasn't already been filled elsewhere. 15:17 jcamins tcohen: I don't think so. 15:16 tcohen jcamins, holds on the item? 15:14 cait we have started showing the status only some time ago 15:14 jcamins Well, with off-line circ there's really nothing that should block a checkout. 15:14 cait or only show a message 15:14 cait i am not sure if it should block checkout 15:13 jcamins I guess in-building use is orthogonal to not for loan. 15:13 cait hm was wrong about 852 15:12 druthb jcamins: it might be in-building use only, or it might be for use with classified docs (or "no minors" or whatever) 15:12 jcamins Maybe. 15:12 jcamins That makes sense. 15:11 jcamins cait: oh, hm. 15:11 * druthb is tempted. 15:11 cait i think it stems from 852 somehow 15:11 cait or under supervision 15:11 cait can only be used in the reading room 15:11 cait i always thought abou treading rooms 15:11 jcamins :P 15:11 cait hm 15:11 jcamins And if you say "the item is restricted," you're going to lose karma. 15:10 jcamins Does anyone know what "item is restricted" means? 15:10 * druthb too. 15:07 * tcohen wants cookies 14:13 bgkriegel for that reason are always welcome :) 14:10 cait ah, cookies work prophylactical too :) 14:03 bgkriegel but no frustration at all 14:02 bgkriegel thanks :) 14:02 * cait hands out cookies 14:02 cait hm hope that's not frustration i hear there? 14:01 bgkriegel yes, we need lots 14:01 cait well, enthuasiasm is always needed :) 14:01 cait :) 14:00 bgkriegel cait++ 14:00 bgkriegel that's enthusiasm :) 13:59 cait helps making it easier to look at some ugly code :) 13:59 cait yeah work never ends... but also lots of good things happen all the time 13:57 bgkriegel work never ends. Put FacetLabelTruncationLength on 50 and all looks good 13:56 cait right now i am testing and documenting ways to hide records and items in opac... see the new bugs... *sigh* 13:55 cait :) 13:53 bgkriegel yes 13:53 cait if the problems you see are always before the ... it's that 13:53 cait there is a system preference for facet length, but it doesnot work correctly for composed characters... if that makes sense? 13:52 cait bgkriegel: it cuts the 'character' in half 13:52 cait bgkriegel: that'd due to facet length 13:49 bgkriegel good, what do you think? 13:48 tcohen got your message last night (--lang) 13:48 tcohen hi bgkriegel 13:48 bgkriegel hi tcohen 13:38 bgkriegel the url is working, of course 13:38 bgkriegel I still see ي , �... (those ?? symbols) 13:37 bgkriegel you did QA for 10174. The text of facets looks well for you? 13:37 cait yes? :) 13:37 wahanui go back to bed, cait. 13:37 bgkriegel cait? 13:36 bgkriegel hello 12:39 jcamins I'm sure he'd like me to think that. 12:39 jcamins Hehe. 12:37 cait :P 12:37 cait when he has to steal your buisciuts you probably don't feed him well enough! 12:36 jcamins Myshkin just ate my biscuit! 10:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7441 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , search results showing wrong branch? 10:38 cait bug 7441 09:55 huginn` magnuse: unknown tag 081 09:55 magnuse @marc 081 09:33 magnuse guten morgen cait 09:32 cait morning magnuse :) 09:22 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on May 05, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). 09:22 magnuse @wunder boo 09:19 * magnuse waves 08:35 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.6°C (10:35 AM CEST on May 05, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 08:35 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:21 druthb Hi, cait! :D 07:21 cait :) 07:21 cait hi druthb 07:21 cait good morning 05:24 * wizzyrea waves 02:29 bgkriegel good bye 02:26 bgkriegel another french warning (no use utf8), Serials.pm, line 2388 02:23 bgkriegel tcohen: an idea (and more work) for you. Add --lang to koha-create, so to offer and use translated interface on web installer (and use localized sql files). 02:19 bgkriegel :) 02:19 wahanui rumour has it tcohen is 120 02:19 bgkriegel tcohen? 02:19 bgkriegel another: line 1487 in C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm, a warning message in french, no use utf8 01:47 tcohen "As a compatibility measure, the use utf8 pragma must be explicitly included to enable recognition of UTF-8 in the Perl scripts themselves (in string or regular expression literals, or in identifier names)" 01:46 tcohen I think comments are not an issue 01:45 bgkriegel diacritics 01:44 bgkriegel there are other two lines with UTF symbols, but on comments 01:43 bgkriegel yeap 01:43 bgkriegel for me, it works 01:43 tcohen if there's non-ASCII in the code use utf8 is a must 01:43 bgkriegel Ok, so I sign (he wrote asking me) 01:42 jcamins It is good. 01:42 jcamins Actually, I understand Karam's patch now. 01:42 bgkriegel I asked Karam, he said is for arabic one or is an arabic symbol 01:42 tcohen I see ¿ 01:42 tcohen why do u say its arabic? 01:41 bgkriegel they use arabic 01:41 jcamins To me it looks wrong, but Lyon wrote a patch especially to add it. 01:41 bgkriegel was my thinking 01:40 bgkriegel a strange one 01:40 tcohen a typo 01:40 jcamins I have no idea what it was for. 01:39 jcamins I have no idea. 01:39 bgkriegel tcohen: nice cat :) 01:38 bgkriegel if not, then we must use utf8 01:38 bgkriegel can be removed? 01:37 bgkriegel ah,ok 01:37 jcamins I just moved it. 01:37 jcamins Actually, that's not from my patch. 01:37 tcohen heh 01:37 tcohen http://snag.gy/TOSsw.jpg 01:36 bgkriegel or seems to be 01:36 jcamins Oh, I see. 01:36 bgkriegel inverted 01:36 bgkriegel an invertes ? 01:36 bgkriegel s/[()!?¡¿؟]/ /g; 01:36 bgkriegel last 01:36 bgkriegel lat between[] 01:35 jcamins What strange symbol? 01:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9183 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , C4::Search should only have one ZOOM event loop 01:33 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10176 major, P5 - low, ---, karamqubsi, Needs Signoff , Invalid URLs in 'Refine Search Results' when it uses UNICODE symbols 01:33 bgkriegel jcamins: I'm sending a mail to koha devel. Karam found a strange solution to Bug 10176, which fixes the use of a more strange symbol in Bug 9183 (line 574 in Search.pm). There is an Arabic symbol in a perl substitute. 01:33 jcamins Yes? 01:25 wahanui somebody said jcamins was too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. 01:25 bgkriegel jcamins?