Time  Nick         Message
00:00 jcamins      Yeah, but at least we know it happens.
00:01 tcohen       hi rangi
00:03 rangi        yep
00:03 rangi        hi tcohen
00:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1154: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 12 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1154/
00:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #110 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:45 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails  Statistics for the Koha 3.10.5 release http://t.co/h1HEMX7B4K"
01:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #110: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/110/
01:01 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10110: Problems with diacritics in saved SQL reports
01:01 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10110 Followup for Acquisition.pm
01:01 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 9684 : Correct path to compact.xsl
01:02 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10110 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Problems with diacritics in saved SQL reports
01:02 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9684 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Z39.50 Card View broken in CCSR
01:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #1155 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1152 22 hr ago)
02:13 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
02:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1155: FIXED in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1155/
02:19 rangi        yay!
03:19 jcamins      rangi: any idea what one does with 紫菜 (zǐ cài)?
03:20 jcamins      I wanted kombu, which is 海带 (no idea what the pinyin is), but since I don't know any Chinese at all, I ended up with the wrong one.
03:22 jcamins      And then I just spent forty minutes trying to figure out what I had.
03:23 jcamins      I think maybe I need to learn some basic Chinese letters.
03:23 jcamins      /words
03:28 rangi        hmm nope i dont im afraid
03:29 jcamins      I'm not sure one does anything with it if one doesn't read Chinese.
03:29 rangi        heh yeah
03:29 rangi        sea weed eh?
03:30 jcamins      Yeah.
03:30 jcamins      A giant round blob of dried seaweed.
03:30 rangi        http://www.noobcook.com/seaweed-soup-with-pork-balls/
03:31 jcamins      Ooh, it's the same kind!
03:31 rangi        look somethign like the pack?
03:31 rangi        :) google to the rescue
03:31 jcamins      Apparently I was searching for the wrong thing.
03:32 rangi        yeah it took a bit of poking round to find it
03:33 jcamins      I think Shari may kill me if I make another variety of soup this week, though.
03:33 jcamins      Fortunately it's dried so I can save it until she's forgotten that I already made 4 quarts.
03:33 rangi        :-)
03:33 rangi        i suspect soup is probably about the best use for it
03:35 jcamins      We may never run out of soup and stock at this rate.
03:36 jcamins      Four containers of beef stock, five containers (though several small) of chowder, and a 5lb yogurt container full of bisque.
03:36 rangi        hehe
03:36 rangi        if im in NYC in the apocolypse ill make my way to your house
03:37 jcamins      lol
03:37 jcamins      Probably a good plan.
03:37 jcamins      I'll be desperately trying to find people to eat baked goods and -- apparently -- soup.
03:38 rangi        hehe
03:48 rangi        oh
03:48 rangi        http://jenkins-opac.koha.workbuffer.org/
03:49 rangi        thats kept up to date by
03:49 rangi        !jenkins status master_install
03:49 jenkins_koha master_install: last build: 16 (1 hr 35 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_install/16/
03:49 rangi        which kicks off after a succesful Koha_master build
03:49 rangi        04:08:56 + PERL5LIB=/mnt/disk2/jenkins/workspace/master_install
03:49 rangi        04:09:05 + perl installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl
03:49 rangi        04:09:37 Upgrade to done (Bug 2046 - increasing title column length for suggestions)
03:49 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2046 normal, P3, ---, kristina, Pushed to Stable , Suggestions: Title Field too small
03:49 rangi        04:09:37 Finished: SUCCESS
03:50 rangi        http://jenkins-intra.koha.workbuffer.org/ too
03:50 rangi        so the next job to configure is it to run some Mechanize tests against that
03:52 jcamins      Nifty!
04:23 * rangi      pokes at a rudimentary couple
05:29 rangi        http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_install/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(root)/mechanize_tests_t/
06:53 cait         good morning #koha
08:14 * magnuse    waves
08:14 magnuse      rangi++ for signing off normarc stuff
08:15 magnuse      mechanize_tests++
08:15 rangi        now master runs all the tests
08:15 rangi        then builds the packages
08:15 rangi        then upgrades a running koha, and runs some mechanize tests
08:15 magnuse      i started to write one that would test the privacy and reading history stuff, but it's kinda hard to find the time...
08:16 rangi        should be getting harder and harder to create regressions
08:16 magnuse      yay!
08:18 magnuse      rangi: are those mechanize tests in koha (yet)?
08:18 * magnuse    loves to look at examples
08:19 rangi        nope not in koha yet
08:19 rangi        but here is an example
08:19 rangi        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=release-tools.git;a=blob_plain;f=install-fresh.pl;h=1da3e7d1de3e43805607528a28364f7323540973;hb=master
08:20 magnuse      cool
08:23 cait         magnuse: german translations done!
08:23 magnuse      yay!
08:23 cait         http://translate.koha-community.org/de/312/
08:23 magnuse      cait++
08:24 cait         morning magnuse:)
08:24 magnuse      was there less to do than earlier versions or have you just been translating like crazy?
08:24 magnuse      hiya cait
08:24 cait         magnuse: bit hard to tell becasue poedit counts differently
08:24 cait         but it seemed not too much
08:24 cait         nicole didn't change a lot of the help files
08:25 magnuse      w00t!
08:25 * magnuse    skips those anyway
08:26 magnuse      oops, gotta go play
10:13 cait         bgkriegel++ # bug 6709
10:13 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Passed QA , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated.
11:30 libsysguy    happy birthday jcamins!
11:30 cait         heya libsysguy
11:30 wahanui      libsysguy is koha's hottest developer or partying with Swedes on his deck
11:30 libsysguy    heya cait
11:31 cait         how's things?
11:31 libsysguy    pretty good
11:32 libsysguy    working like a slave on some old busted systems
11:32 libsysguy    so pretty much the same actually :p jk jk
11:32 cait         tsk
11:32 libsysguy    how are things in these parts of the woods
11:32 cait         :)
11:32 cait         didn't you hear we rewrote Koha in Catalyst since you left? :P
11:33 cait         joking
11:33 libsysguy    id come back
11:33 libsysguy    lol
11:33 jcamins      lol
11:33 libsysguy    actually I'm pretty excited, I met the guy who wrote dbix::class and is a major contributor to catalyst
11:34 libsysguy    and catalyst is having a new release in june
11:36 cait         :)
11:36 jcamins      libsysguy, rangi: thanks!
11:38 libsysguy    how is plack and nginx coming along?
11:38 cait         Alles Gute zum Geburtstag Jared!
11:41 jcamins      libsysguy: I found more things that don't function under Plack!
11:41 jcamins      :P
11:41 libsysguy    heh, well I can't say I didn't see that coming
11:41 libsysguy    but I figured it'd be later
11:41 libsysguy    like - after the announcement that we're plack compliant
11:41 libsysguy    then people run it and hair catches on fire
11:42 jcamins      That cat's out of the bag- Paul announced Plack compliance for 3.10.
11:42 libsysguy    in other news, my cat just used the computer
11:43 jcamins      She has things to do, people to talk to.
11:43 libsysguy    maybe we should have looked at mod_perl compliance first :p
11:43 libsysguy    jk thats a terrible idea ^^
11:43 libsysguy    nobody run with that
11:43 libsysguy    it was cute, she used the trackpad
11:43 jcamins      libsysguy: actually, at least one vendor uses mod_perl.
11:43 libsysguy    her paw is a two-finger swipe
11:44 libsysguy    oh really?
11:44 libsysguy    its not terrible, one step above CGI imo
11:44 libsysguy    but plack is 15 steps above CGI
11:44 libsysguy    lol
11:45 jcamins      It doesn't really work.
11:45 jcamins      So we might as well focus on Plack, which also doesn't work. :P
11:46 libsysguy    better just do it in java then
11:47 jcamins      Hehe.
11:47 libsysguy    even the cat in my lap thought that was a bad idea
11:47 * cait       thinks such an suggestion on the maling list is overdue
11:47 cait         it's been long since someone sugggested rewriting it in java
11:49 libsysguy    at least when I suggested re-writing it I stayed in the same language
11:49 libsysguy    but if you'd like I'll still send an email to the list about java
11:49 cait         ah don't bother
11:50 libsysguy    :p
12:03 jcamins      Myshkin is doing his morning "purr loudly and try to prevent me using the computer" routine.
12:04 cait         he wants to spend time iwth you :)
14:14 bgkriegel    morning tcohen
14:14 tcohen       morning
14:16 cait         good morning my favourite koha developers from argentina :)
14:16 tcohen       :-P
14:16 bgkriegel    :)
14:16 bgkriegel    hi cait
14:16 tcohen       hi cait
14:17 jcamins      I'm thinking about making strawberry pancakes.
14:17 cait         :)
14:17 jcamins      I'm also thinking of coming up with something more unusual.
14:17 cait         put matcha in the dough to make the pancakes green? :P
14:17 jcamins      Matcha... strawberry...
14:17 jcamins      YES!!!!!
14:18 cait         heh
14:18 tcohen       morning jcamins
14:19 jcamins      I have sencha!
14:19 cait         didn't you say you bought matcha powder recently?
14:19 jcamins      I bought powdered tea.
14:19 jcamins      Or, rather, "green tea powder."
14:20 cait         hmm
14:20 jcamins      However, matcha is a much finer powder.
14:20 jcamins      This is definitely sencha.
14:20 jcamins      A high grade of sencha, perhaps, but definitely sencha.
14:20 jcamins      :'(
14:20 jcamins      Guess I'll make some tea.
14:20 cait         ooh
14:21 cait         it's time we got those teleporters
14:21 cait         so I could just send you some of mine
14:21 cait         ... and then got me invited to the breakfast :)
14:23 jcamins      hehe.
14:24 tcohen       cait, you could buy one of these and pick us all yesterday, so we celebrate jcamins birthday together http://www.ebay.com/itm/Back-to-the-Future-Movie-II-Time-Machine-Delorean-Flashing-Lights-and-Sound-box-/261207740934?pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item3cd131d206
14:25 cait         tcohen: maybe we need to remodel it into a van then :)
14:25 cait         or I would have to do lots of trips
14:25 tcohen       i love driving, let me handle it
14:25 cait         heh
14:25 tcohen       happy birthday jcamins
14:25 cait         that's good, I don't have a driver's license
14:25 jcamins      tcohen: thanks.
14:28 bgkriegel    o yes, Happy Birthday jcamins
14:32 jcamins      Yes, the sencha is very fine indeed.
14:32 cait         bgkriegel: you got a pm :)
14:33 jcamins      Wow.
14:33 jcamins      Mr. Troll is back.
14:35 cait         don't be mean
14:35 jcamins      Did you read his e-mail?
14:35 cait         I did
14:35 jcamins      [off] OH MY GOD KOHA BROKE EVERYTHING!!!
14:36 jcamins      I'm sorry, if you can't follow instructions and insist on sending frantic e-mails when you do something wrong, you'd damn well better not be blaming people who volunteer their time.
14:45 drojf        hi #koha
14:45 cait         hi drojf :)
14:45 drojf        happy birthday jcamins!
14:45 jcamins      Thanks.
14:45 cait         translations all done :)
14:45 jcamins      Wow!
14:45 drojf        cool!
14:45 cait         was not so much
14:45 drojf        cait++
14:45 jcamins      cait: at least for now.
14:45 jcamins      Maybe I'll push lots of strings before Wednesday. :P
14:45 cait         hoped to do some testing with german installed today, but still wading through mails and patches :)
14:46 cait         jcamins: you probably will, but it's still nice to get the help files out of the way
14:46 cait         :)
14:48 jcamins      Understandable.
14:48 wahanui      Understandable. is why i was running it against a local copy
14:49 drojf        we have surprise upgrades now? ;
14:49 drojf        ;)
14:49 cait         to keep things exciting :)
14:50 jcamins      drojf: if you don't pay attention, yes.
14:51 * jcamins    thinks of adding the sencha leaves anyway.
14:52 cait         maybe try on half of the dough?
14:52 jcamins      Bahaha!
14:52 jcamins      Caution!
14:52 jcamins      What's that?
14:52 wahanui      i guess that is a good idea.
14:53 jcamins      wahanui: probably.
14:53 wahanui      jcamins: i'm not following you...
14:53 tcohen       do we already ship ccsr-related po files?
14:53 jcamins      tcohen: not until 3.12.
14:54 jcamins      Okay, I see recipes that call for adding sencha tea leaves to batter.
14:54 cait         jcamins: reassuring
14:55 jcamins      But it calls for a lot more sencha than if you're using matcha.
14:55 jcamins      Tablespoons instead of half teaspoons.
14:55 cait         hm
14:55 cait         I can imagine that
14:55 cait         because it's not as finely powdered
14:55 jcamins      Yep.
14:55 jcamins      I shall make up a new recipe.
14:56 cait         yay!
14:56 jcamins      Actually, maybe I want green tea pancakes with strawberry syrup.
14:56 cait         mmh
14:56 jcamins      Since it's going to be more subtle green tea flavor, good to go with a more subtle strawberry flavor.
14:59 * cait       nods in agreement
15:02 jcamins      And I'd better add a small amount of coconut.
15:08 cait         you are making me hungry again
15:12 jcamins      I changed my mind.
15:12 jcamins      I'm making green tea scones.
15:13 cait         heh
15:14 cait         will you actually make the food at some point? :)
15:14 jcamins      Oh yeah.
15:14 jcamins      I'm just waiting for the oven to preheat.
15:14 jcamins      I'm using the same recipe...
15:14 cait         :)
15:15 jcamins      Oh, drat.
15:16 jcamins      I nearly forgot to add the egg.
15:16 jcamins      Fortunately, I didn't actually forget, just nearly forgot. :)
15:16 cait         you nearly gave me a heart attack here ;)
15:18 * drojf      wonders if baking with green tea is a thing outside of jcamins' kitchen
15:18 cait         drojf: yep
15:18 drojf        yes it it :)
15:19 drojf        i did not know
15:20 cait         drojf: i love green tea chocolate... but hard to come by
15:21 cait         [off] I want one of those... https://www.google.de/search?q=kitkat+matcha&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ez19UfL2JcvntQbU1IDYCA&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=943&bih=746
15:23 drojf        [off] lol, that looks healty ;)
15:23 drojf        [off] i'd like to try this http://shop.metamate.cc/product/mati-kati-chocolate/mati-kati-brown-2/
15:24 cait         [off] heh
15:24 jcamins      I decided to bake the scones in muffin tins.
15:25 cait         :)
15:26 cait         photos? :)
15:26 jcamins      Uhhh...
15:26 jcamins      we'll see what they look like, then I will consider.
15:27 cait         ...k
15:27 drojf        [off] cait: http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l3201&_nkw=kitkat+matcha&_sacat=0 ;)
15:27 cait         hm maybe I don't want thm that much...yet
15:28 jcamins      I'd rather make my own green tea candy.
15:28 cait         yeah
15:28 cait         I have to look into recipes
15:29 drojf        diy++
15:29 drojf        nestle--
15:31 bgkriegel    Anyone know where to download a sample of UNIMARC records?
15:32 jcamins      sample records?
15:32 jcamins      records?
15:32 wahanui      i think records is quite common
15:32 jcamins      free records?
15:32 jcamins      open records?
15:32 jcamins      example records?
15:32 jcamins      No.
15:32 bgkriegel    some, to test some unimarc bugs
15:32 cait         bgkriegel: hmm try the sandbox repo
15:32 cait         and thx for trying those :)
15:32 bgkriegel    ah, yes
15:32 cait         there should be the sample database there - I have set up an installation with it
15:33 bgkriegel    Could I export from the sanbox and use in my install?
15:33 cait         hm that should work too i guess
15:34 bgkriegel    ok, thanks
15:48 jcamins      [off] drojf: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/164899_10100151683502089_1733887999_n.jpg
15:49 drojf        [off] that looks delicious
15:50 jcamins      drojf: you could easily make those with rice flour.
15:51 drojf        i should
15:52 jcamins      Super easy, too.
15:53 * cait       suggests more people moving to konstanz...
15:53 cait         or inventing teleporters...
15:53 jcamins      Combine appropriate proportions of flour, baking powder, sugar, salt, sencha leaves, coconut, butter, and green tea.
15:53 jcamins      :P
15:54 * drojf      deletes the question he was typing :)
15:55 jcamins      And appropriate proportions are... ~1 c. flour, 2 Tbsp baking powder, 1 Tbsp (maybe?) sugar, 1/2 tsp (maybe?) salt, sencha leaves until it's flecked with green, 1 Tbsp coconut, 4 Tbsp butter, ~1 c. green tea.
15:56 jcamins      Mix dry ingredients, cut in butter, add green tea.
15:56 jcamins      Couldn't be easier.
15:56 jcamins      Oh, and one egg.
15:57 drojf        i've seen chestnut flour that i'd love to try. but its ~20x the price of wheat flour :(
15:58 jcamins      Yikes.
15:58 jcamins      That's why I suggested rice flour.
15:58 jcamins      Only 2x.
15:58 cait         gluten--
15:59 drojf        i think i still have some rice flour. much more expensive here too though
16:02 jcamins      Even more than 2x wheat?
16:04 drojf        i think i paid more like 10x. it's not really common to use anything else than wheat over here. so you'll find it in organic markets.
16:05 cait         have you tried asia stores?
16:05 cait         i think it#s used in sweets too
16:05 cait         so maybe you could find it there a bit cheaper
16:05 drojf        yes. i don't remember if it was around the same or if i did not trust it to be gluten "clean"
16:06 jcamins      It costs 10x at the grocery store.
16:06 drojf        for some reason i did not buy it there
16:06 cait         ok
16:06 jcamins      Well, 6x-10x.
16:07 drojf        i have to do an expedition to the huge asia store at some point anyway. i only got smaller ones here
16:13 * cait       wants chocolate
16:15 jcamins      I should do something to make my ice cream cake look fancy.
16:15 jcamins      Suggestions?
16:15 jcamins      Other than pickled ginger, which I've already dismissed.
16:17 cait         how does the cake work?
16:17 cait         i need more information
16:18 jcamins      I make some sort of crust (traditionally crushed oreos), spread softened ice cream over it, put a thin layer of more crust, then a layer of hot fudge, then I put it in the freezer.
16:18 jcamins      Because hot fudge melts ice cream.
16:18 cait         mmmh
16:18 cait         vanilla ice cream=
16:18 cait         ?
16:19 jcamins      Cookie dough ice cream, actually.
16:19 cait         i would suggest matcha... but you forgot to buy that :)
16:19 cait         ooooh
16:19 cait         teleporters!!
16:19 jcamins      I didn't *forget* to buy matcha.
16:19 jcamins      I bought "green tea powder," not realizing that sencha is also translated as "green tea powder."
16:19 cait         i think it sounds awesome as it is
16:19 jcamins      Oh, yes, it will be very delicious.
16:20 jcamins      And totally unnecessary, since we do have strawberry cheesecake brownies.
16:20 cait         *sigh*
16:20 cait         you are torturing me
16:20 jcamins      But that's not really the point, when I bake.
16:20 jcamins      ("necessary")
17:09 bgkriegel    done spanish translation. Now time to update po files
17:11 jcamins      Don't rest on your laurels just yet. String freeze is several days away. :P
17:12 bgkriegel    yeah, I know :(
17:13 cait         :)
17:14 cait         wonder if i will ever get that bug queue down to 15
17:14 cait         it really always jumps back to 20... when i think i have got a small dent into it
17:14 magnuse      cait++ for qa'ing normarc stuff!
17:15 cait         magnuse: I was lazy there... I have to admit
17:15 magnuse      jcamins: there is a nice, fat ++ waiting for you if you push it ;-)
17:15 cait         but the changes look pretty safe :)
17:15 * magnuse    hopes so
17:25 smeagol      This is an odd problem. Fines are not being assessed nightly for all patrons with items overdue. Some patrons are, and some patrons aren't. The ones who aren't being assessed fines by cron are getting fines assessed at checkin. Question: Shouldn't all patrons be assessed fines by fines.pl cron AND upon checkin? This either or business is confusing..
17:26 cait         smeagol: it sounds not quite right
17:26 smeagol      Patrons are leaving the library thinking they owe no fines when they do. Their fines are being assessed upon checkin. Has anyone seen this problem?
17:26 cait         all should get assessed by nightly I think - are you using hourly loans?
17:26 cait         which version are you using?
17:27 smeagol
17:27 cait         hm ok
17:27 smeagol      We are not actively using hourly loans. Is this a syspref?
17:28 cait         no it's in your circulation rules
17:28 cait         we put in a bug a few days ago to make the recalculation be controlled by a pref too
17:28 cait         but that would not help you right now.. hm.
17:28 cait         if you look at the account - should the fines job have calculated those fines? I mean are they right or not?
17:29 smeagol      Does the fine type, "fu" vs "f" have anything to do with how fines are calculated?
17:29 cait         hm in theory fu is still accrueing and f is not
17:29 cait         I think
17:29 cait         or the other way around
17:30 smeagol      Ok..some of these people have items checked out, and overdue, but fines are NOT accruing (by fines cron) and fine type is F
17:31 smeagol      These people have their fines calculated upon checkin..
17:31 cait         it's really hard to tell for me without being able to check out the accounts
17:32 smeagol      But I'm not sure why one patron's fines are set to "F" and the other to "FU"..??
17:32 cait         it could mean the book was returned in between
17:32 cait         or renewed maybe
17:32 smeagol      or renewed?
17:33 smeagol      yes, maybe the problem is with renewals....
17:34 smeagol      Will have to look into this. Just wondering if anyone had seen this before..
17:34 smeagol      thanks
17:34 cait         we are not actively using that versioon... so hard to tell
17:34 cait         haven't seen any bug reports tho
17:35 smeagol      ok, thanks for your help. every little bit helps.
18:09 * magnuse    hopes Bug 8300 can still make it into 3.12, even if it is marked as an enh
18:09 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
18:09 cait         hm
18:09 cait         jcamins: ?
18:09 jcamins      Yep.
18:10 cait         8300?
18:10 jcamins      I hadn't noticed that it passed.
18:10 cait         i know rangi was working on tests last night, but not sure if those are related
18:10 cait         looks like jonathan and marcel did some work on it
18:15 jcamins      bug 9250
18:15 wahanui      bug 9250 is, like, signed off and i did a followup for koha-common.xml. should it be "signed off" or "needs signoff", because of the followup
18:15 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9250 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Passed QA , Provide commands to allow handling of SIP servers in the packages
18:19 magnuse      jcamins: "yes please" to that one too
18:19 magnuse      ;-)
18:19 jcamins      magnuse: yeah, that's going in as well.
18:19 jcamins      Hopefully also 10094.
18:20 magnuse      bug 10094
18:20 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10094 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , koha-list should have an --disabled option
18:20 magnuse      w00t!
18:23 * jcamins    throws a party.
18:23 jcamins      I managed to write data to IndexedDB.
18:23 jcamins      Jeez but that standard is opaque.
18:24 jcamins      To put it mildly.
19:11 rangi        wth
19:11 rangi        automatic upgrade
19:11 rangi        heh
19:12 cait         good morning rangi :)
19:13 rangi        morning
19:13 rangi        ahh and mathieu and manos talking about differetn things .. not the best day on the mailing lists, lucky i slept through it ;)
19:15 cait         weekend :)
19:23 rangi        oh 209 developers
19:25 rangi        jcamins: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_install/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(root)/mechanize_tests_t/ added a few more tests
19:25 jcamins      Nice!
19:26 rangi        apparently TAP gets confused sorting
19:26 rangi        http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_install/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(root)/mechanize_tests_t/10___looking_for_45th_link___To_the_borrower_details/?
19:26 rangi        easier to see
19:27 rangi        gmcharlt: you might be interested too, means we can start accepting mechanize tests for new features
19:27 rangi        and can get people building lots of them for the hackfest :)
19:35 rangi        heh bug 10070
19:35 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10070 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , History of anonymous searches is not kept
19:36 rangi        bug 6554 sure made a mess
19:36 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates
19:40 jcamins      It certainly did.
19:41 jcamins      The bottom crust for the ice cream cake is way thicker than I planned.
19:42 cait         crumble?
19:42 jcamins      I haven't decided yet.
19:43 * rangi      tests the koha-disable changes
19:49 trea         mm.
19:49 rangi        early morning trea
19:49 trea         hi there
19:49 wahanui      bidet, trea
19:50 trea         uh, thanks i guess wahanui.
19:52 cait         morning trea
19:53 trea         morning cait
20:14 wizzyrea     hi
20:14 wahanui      niihau, wizzyrea
20:39 jcamins      I have a problem.
20:39 jcamins      The icing is not setting.
20:40 wizzyrea     hm that is a prblem
20:41 jcamins      Probably when I realized that the recipe my mother sent me was missing ingredients I should have called her rather than just guessing.
20:43 cait         what did you make the icing with?
20:44 jcamins      A great deal of enthusiasm and bad judgement?
20:44 cait         lol
20:44 jcamins      Milk, butter, salt, chocolate chips, cocoa powder, rice flour.
20:46 cait         hm
20:47 jcamins      I added more rice flour.
20:47 jcamins      It's a little thicker.
20:49 rangi        sounds like its missing icing sugar
20:49 wizzyrea     ^^ corn starch might work too
20:49 wizzyrea     since icing sugar is really just corn starch + fine sugar
20:49 rangi        (powdered sugar in americanese)
20:50 jcamins      Oh, right.
20:50 jcamins      I also added sugar.
20:50 jcamins      That was missing from the recipe.
20:50 rangi        well here i think its just fine sugar
20:50 wizzyrea     hm darn it now I have to look it up ^>^
20:51 jcamins      wizzyrea: no, icing sugar is really fine sugar.
20:51 cait         jcamins: i do my icing with lemon juice and powdered sugar
20:51 wizzyrea     we're all right
20:51 jcamins      cait: I'm making ice cream cake. It's supposed to be iced with hot fudge.
20:51 wizzyrea     some has corn starch, some doesn't
20:51 wizzyrea     but it's all called either powdered sugar or icing sugar
20:51 cait         I know that you can add egg whites (beaten up?) to make it easier to work with
20:51 trea         is the ice cream on the outside?
20:52 cait         jcamins: so what't the icing for then?
20:52 jcamins      It's actual hot fudge.
20:52 wizzyrea     maybe the fudge is runny until it's on the ice cream
20:52 jcamins      *actually
20:52 jcamins      I called it "icing" because that's what I'm using it for.
20:52 jcamins      wizzyrea: but my mother has to microwave it to get it soft enough to spread.
20:53 wizzyrea     dunno then
20:53 jcamins      Me either.
20:53 jcamins      On the plus side, I have a ton of whatever it is.
20:53 rangi        hehe
20:54 jcamins      And it tastes good.
20:54 jcamins      And it actually is thicking.
20:54 jcamins      Gradually.
20:55 jcamins      Oh, and the hot fudge goes on top, in answer to the question.
20:56 jcamins      Thin layer of crust, thick layer of ice cream, thin layer of crumbs, hot fudge.
20:57 cait         ok, I don't get where the other stuff you made fits in there
20:57 jcamins      What other stuff?
20:57 wahanui      well, other stuff is cool too
20:58 cait         the icing stuff?
20:58 jcamins      I haven't made anything else.
20:58 jcamins      It's hot fudge, not icing.
20:58 jcamins      I just called it icing.
20:58 cait         ooh
20:58 jcamins      Because that's how I'm using the hot fudge.
20:58 * magnuse    would just like to add that powdered sugar is called "melis" in norwegian, before he wanders off to bed
20:58 cait         puderzucker :)
20:59 cait         and good night :)
20:59 jcamins      Okay...
20:59 wizzyrea     puderzucker - makes perfect sense
20:59 jcamins      egg white it is.
21:00 wizzyrea     hm you said rice flour eh?
21:00 wizzyrea     for teh glutenfree?
21:01 rangi        so, what do people think of this idea
21:01 rangi        http://download.koha-community.org/
21:01 rangi        make and old dir
21:01 rangi        and put the old releases in that
21:02 rangi        keep recent ones out
21:02 wizzyrea     i like it
21:03 rangi        anyone hate it?
21:07 drojf        i think it's a good idea
21:07 drojf        (sorry, no hate ;)
21:09 rangi        there we go
21:10 jcamins      I like it.
21:10 * jcamins    emerges from his epic hot fudge battle covered in chocolate.
21:11 wizzyrea     how did you manage that
21:12 jcamins      I think it must have splashed.
21:12 drojf        did you get some on the cake too? :)
21:12 jcamins      Oh yes.
21:12 jcamins      Lots on the cake.
21:12 jcamins      Hopefully it will solidify, because it's going to be really hard to serve otherwise.
21:12 jcamins      It's kind of full.
21:14 rangi        http://download.koha-community.org/
21:14 rangi        try a shift refresh
21:14 rangi        can you notice a difference?
21:14 jcamins      No need for a shift-refresh.
21:14 jcamins      Looks great!
21:15 * rangi      aims to shift more ppl to the packages :)
21:16 jcamins      An excellent aim.
21:16 liw          mmm, packages
21:18 drojf        great. i can't dismount a partition in truecrypt, because a process is using it. and that process is truecrypt. :/
21:26 jcamins      drojf: change your working directory?
21:26 wahanui      jcamins: that doesn't look right
21:30 drojf        jcamins: it was the terminal but it was not obvious because i was logged into somewhere else via ssh. you get a message saying to use fuser or lsof to find out what process is using it and that only shows truecrypt itself ;)
21:31 jcamins      Ah.
21:32 drojf        looks like i repaired my raspberry pi \o/
21:33 trea         how was it broken drojf?
21:35 drojf        the sd card slot seems to be of bad quality. it got picky with some sd cards and in the end none worked. i had to glue a piece of plastic on top of it to press it into the slot
21:35 trea         oh i see
21:35 drojf        and it only took me 7834 attempts :D
21:36 drojf        it also involved recovering the partition table of the card because that got lost in the process of finding the problem. no idea why that happend. seems alright again now
22:30 eythian      hi
22:30 wahanui      bidet, eythian
22:30 eythian      t/hee
22:40 wizzyrea     did you add that?
22:40 wizzyrea     it seems a popular greeting lately ?!
22:42 tcohen       hi wizzyrea
22:42 eythian      wizzyrea: I did, I was bored one day :) It's just as random as any of the others.
22:42 wizzyrea     hehe
23:14 * jcamins    returns, the triumphant maker of sushi!
23:14 eythian      ohh sushi.
23:14 * eythian    starts thinking about lunch
23:34 cjh          mmmmhhhhmmm sushi
23:35 jcamins      [off] https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/923064_10100151887248779_709441492_n.jpg
23:36 tcohen       looks great jcamins !!!
23:36 cjh          jcamins: was that made with the seaweed from yesterday?
23:37 jcamins      Yup.
23:37 cjh          and it isn't soup!
23:37 jcamins      Nope.
23:38 jcamins      There's a lot left.
23:38 tcohen       do u use wasabi too?
23:38 jcamins      In fact, that was just one piece of a large blob.
23:38 jcamins      Yup.
23:43 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Libraries as Publishers http://t.co/FBtoC8Di1T #kohails"
23:50 jcamins      mtj: where were you thinking of putting sample MARC records?
23:50 mtj          i hadnt got that far yet :)
23:50 mtj          ./misc ?
23:51 mtj          do you have a suggestion?
23:51 mtj          or perhaps ./t/data ?
23:51 jcamins      No, I was just going to point out that providing it as optional sample data in the installer would be a bad idea because people will check everything without reading.
23:52 jcamins      What are you thinking the records would be for?
23:52 jcamins      We already have MARC files in t.
23:53 jcamins      What they're called, of course, is another question.
23:53 mtj          aah, so we do?!
23:53 jcamins      Somewhere.
23:53 jcamins      One or more of the tests uses MARC data.
23:54 jcamins      I don't remember which, but I do remember noticing that.
23:54 mtj          ./t/db_dependent/Record/testrecords
23:55 mtj          they are called .dat, rather than .marc or .mrc  (just to test you)
23:55 jcamins      Bingo.
23:55 mtj          oooh, tho…. no UNIMARC records in that dir
23:56 mtj          so, thats a worthy bug
23:57 mtj          i had to qa/test an import-marc patch a few days ago, and i got thinking...
23:58 mtj          hmm, where are some marc records when you need them, for testing? :/
23:58 mtj          hence, the bug :)
23:58 rangi        on the wiki?
23:58 wahanui      on the wiki is more information about the packages
23:58 rangi        thats where id put them
23:59 rangi        unless your bug includes stripping them back out of the tarball and the packages
23:59 rangi        i dont see any point bundling them up for people
23:59 rangi        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Free_sample_MARC_data