Time  Nick         Message
22:52 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9886' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fbdc7b1d6edb9a49d21beccaaa38770119e396f> / Bug 9886: ParseLetter removes too often punctuation characters from fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b1c71e91a19fcf37e302bba66019807b18cb307> / Merge branch 'bug_9671' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a
22:13 jcamins      Ooh, nice!
22:13 rangi        bbl
22:13 rangi        ill get some venison i think, and some veges of some sort
22:13 jcamins      Oh, right.
22:12 rangi        out of season here
22:12 jcamins      I bought another 4lbs today.
22:12 rangi        http://www.hillstfarmersmarket.org.nz/
22:12 jcamins      They're wonderful!
22:12 jcamins      Buy strawberries!
22:12 * rangi      heads off to the market
21:29 rangi        morning
20:25 cait         :)
20:21 rambutan     bye
20:21 oleonard     See y'all later
20:21 oleonard     Stay tuned! Will continue on Monday :)
20:21 jcamins      Yay!
20:21 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Add system preference for excluding articles from jQuery table sorter
20:21 * oleonard   may have a solution for Bug 5766
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19:53 cait         :)
19:47 jcamins      aka hairdresser
19:47 jcamins      *Operators
19:47 jcamins      I just learned an interesting LCSH heading: Beauty Operator.
19:44 jcamins      Kind of cool.
19:44 jcamins      Yeah.
19:43 oleonard     the dev tool?
19:43 * jcamins    learns about Firefox's 3D mode.
19:38 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @talljoy: "#kohails has an amazing community with amazingly helpful members-populated with other users and also developers and support ppl.  #TXLA13"
19:14 bag          awesome talljoy!
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18:59 oleonard     Alright I will hope for the best
18:58 jcamins      It's probably security policy on my computer.
18:58 jcamins      But as long as the problem I was seeing doesn't occur for other people, I'm not too worried.
18:57 jcamins      Okay, I'm logged in, and still it doesn't look right.
18:57 oleonard     Oh of course the add to list isn't there because we're not logged in
18:56 jcamins      Hold on.
18:56 jcamins      I will log in.
18:56 cait         hm
18:56 jcamins      cait: no.
18:56 cait         jcamins: are you logged in?
18:53 jcamins      Right, I see the disabled radio buttons when I should be seeing gray stars.
18:53 oleonard     And I see grey stars
18:53 cait         i see stars
18:52 oleonard     round bubbles = disabled radio buttons :P
18:52 jcamins      So you see stars and not round bubbles?
18:52 oleonard     You're right cait, I didn't catch that
18:51 cait         did you remove it?
18:51 cait         jcamins: hm no add to list for me
18:50 jcamins      Very odd.
18:50 cait         looks fine to me :(
18:50 jcamins      I just shared a link to a page that has broken JS for me no matter which browser I use.
18:49 cait         oh
18:49 cait         ?
18:49 jcamins      cait: can't be. oleonard just reported it working.
18:49 cait         i had no problems either it worked as described
18:49 wahanui      Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information.
18:49 cait         jcamins: plack?
18:48 jcamins      Because I can reproduce it in any browser.
18:48 jcamins      That's bizarre.
18:48 jcamins      Really?
18:47 oleonard     JS isn't broken on that page for me
18:46 jcamins      [off] You can check: http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=smith&branch_group_limit=
18:45 jcamins      I don't think it's the cache.
18:45 jcamins      It happens for me quite consistently.
18:45 jcamins      Right.
18:45 oleonard     The page in question being OPAC search results
18:45 jcamins      oleonard: really?
18:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
18:44 oleonard     I'm concerned about jcamins' comment on Bug 10107 "when I disable the opacbookbag syspref all the other javascript on the page breaks" However I can't reproduce the problem.
18:44 drojf        i blame google groups. and koha on windows
18:40 cait         iirc even
18:40 cait         because that was in squeeze but not in sid... irrc
18:39 cait         i think missing dependency
18:39 drojf        ah
18:39 jcamins      sid
18:38 drojf        i wonder what the default was when you have to add squeeze as a parameter, on a squeeze system
18:38 drojf        i built a package last week, but that wasn't master
18:37 cait         i can ask my coworker why that fixes it on monday
18:37 cait         :)
18:36 drojf        april 2013. that makes more sense
18:36 cait         wehave started testing around beta2 I think
18:36 cait         :)
18:35 drojf        then i fail to read the wiki log :D
18:35 drojf        ah
18:35 cait         that's way more recent
18:35 cait         hm no
18:35 drojf        cait: it really passed. does not make any sense to me, given that you put that on the wiki in december and i have built packages after that, but i won't ask as long as it works now. thanks :)
18:35 wahanui      jenkins is http://jenkins.koha-community.org/
18:35 cait         oh jenkins?
18:33 cait         oleonard++ :)
18:31 huginn`      cait: The operation succeeded.
18:31 cait         @later tell slef http://paste.koha-community.org/485 < that's the git bz problem with diacritics in the commit message
18:30 cait         i had hoped he would be an item record with status available
18:30 cait         interesting :)
18:30 drojf        he is??
18:29 wahanui      well, slef is an item record
18:29 cait         slef?
18:26 drojf        you too tcohen
18:24 tcohen       have a nice weekend #koha
18:23 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10030 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding
18:23 wahanui      bug 10030 is giving me trouble too
18:23 cait         bug 10030
18:23 cait         drojf: fingers crossed
18:21 drojf        it's building, and downloading a million of things so i think it works again
18:20 drojf        i never knew how it is done, i copied and pasted from the wiki the first time too :D
18:19 jcamins      ^^ exactly
18:19 jcamins      If you tell yourself that maybe you'll feel better about copy-and-pasting your day away. :P
18:19 cait         so you don't forget how it's done?
18:19 drojf        :)
18:19 drojf        i see
18:19 * jcamins    shrugs.
18:19 drojf        why?
18:19 jcamins      drojf: it was time to rebuild it from scratch. :P
18:19 drojf        jcamins: i had updated it today, as in get the new apt key, update apt etc.
18:18 drojf        cait: maybe it did
18:17 cait         all i know is that we had the problem you described when building from master - so Ithought it might help
18:17 jcamins      drojf: it was time to rebuild it anyway.
18:16 drojf        hm yeah it kind of deleted the whole build environment
18:15 drojf        not your fault, i should look at things before i paste them ^^
18:15 cait         i am sorry
18:15 cait         oh
18:14 drojf        you said you added a line so i thought i'd just do what it says. but since you did not add but edit it i did something i already did before, again, with different parameters. i doubt that was wise. funny that i thought i should make a backup of my packagebuilder vm just today. which i postponed ^^
18:12 cait         what did I do?
18:11 cait         huh?
18:11 * drojf      should learn not to copy+paste things people on the internet tell him
18:10 drojf        oh you did not add that, but edited. so i probably screw up everything right now
18:09 drojf        doing that now but i can't really imagine that would be a problem
18:05 cait         well... that I don't know
18:05 * drojf      is confused
18:05 drojf        why would that be a problem? i have built packages before
18:05 cait         and then according to him it worked
18:04 cait         sudo pbuilder create --distribution squeeze
18:04 cait         this here
18:04 cait         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
18:04 cait         hm not there
18:04 cait         my coworker made me add a line there
18:04 wahanui      packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
18:04 cait         packages
18:04 cait         drojf: i migh tknow your problem :)
18:03 cait         dro
18:02 pastebot     "drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "building master package" (209 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/484
18:01 wahanui      I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
18:01 drojf        paste?
18:00 jcamins      Any error message?
18:00 drojf        yes. i tried master + 10101 first, but it also happens with just master
18:00 jcamins      Works for me.
18:00 jcamins      Odd.
18:00 jcamins      drojf: really?
18:00 drojf        when i try to build a package of master t/Labels.t fails and the build stops
17:33 jcamins      Good luck.
17:32 asif         ok thanks alot now try my ownself
17:30 asif         i tried but its not copied
17:30 asif         hmmm
17:30 jcamins      You don't need to copy the code into the IRC channel.
17:30 asif         #!/usr/bin/perl  # Copyright 2009 Jesse Weaver # # This file is part of Koha. # # Koha is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the # terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software # Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later # version. # # Koha is distributed in the hope that
17:28 oleonard     asif: None of us has ever tried to install Koha on Windows.
17:28 oleonard     asif: It looks like an error which is a direct result of Koha being installed on Windows, so you'll have to figure it out on your own.
17:28 jcamins      However, this is a very Windows-specific problem, I think.
17:28 jcamins      Looks like you will need to submit a patch for Koha either correct the path, if that's the problem, or correct the way the file is being executed to be cross-platform, if that's the problem.
17:27 asif         oleonard have you anythng from this message
17:26 oleonard     asif: That error message should be a good starting point for figuring out what is wrong.
17:25 wahanui      oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
17:25 asif         oleonard
17:25 asif         i found this is the actual error log "[Fri Apr 26 21:04:42 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (OS 2)The system cannot find the file specified.  : couldn't spawn child process: D:/usr/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/svc/config/systempreferences, referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?tab=patrons"
17:21 asif         i am using mozilla
17:20 oleonard     asif: Usually when Koha runs into an error it logs the error. You should try to find the error log.
17:20 drojf        asif: what browser are you using?
17:19 asif         whenever i made any changes in prefrences and save it it shows "Internal Server Error, please reload the page"
17:19 asif         if someone guide me littl emay be i will be able to fix it more better way
17:19 oleonard     asif: Do you have error logs you can check?
17:18 asif         bcz i dnt face this
17:18 asif         have anybody from you face such issue in linux?
17:18 cait         asif++ :)
17:17 jcamins      asif++
17:17 jcamins      :)
17:17 asif         as soon as make complete my initial working on it will must share with community
17:16 jcamins      If you document on the wiki how you installed Koha on Windows, perhaps other people will decide to work on it too.
17:16 asif         anhow have to fix it now on myself
17:16 asif         as i know it already in practice about koha on window but not successfuly anywhere
17:15 jcamins      And *BSD, I suppose.
17:15 jcamins      asif: the documentation does say that Koha runs under Linux.
17:15 cait         Windows is not free software... I see it more as a logical consequence *shrug*
17:15 asif         bcz i expect someone help me here :(
17:14 asif         really sad to listen this
17:14 * cait       has to agree with jcamins
17:14 jcamins      Be sure to document how you made it work, though, for anyone who wants to work on it in the future.
17:14 asif         hmmmmmm
17:14 jcamins      In that case, you will have to troubleshoot it yourself, I think, because no one else runs Koha under Windows.
17:14 asif         yes i have tried and it works
17:13 jcamins      asif: so *you* are porting Koha to Windows?
17:13 asif         i have customized all prerequisite softwares and Win32 in a single directory and run that and it works
17:12 jcamins      What web browser?
17:12 jcamins      Do you mean that you are using a web browser on Windows?
17:11 asif         and found this error initially its working is smooth on linux but in windows everythng is fyn just facing problem in saving prefrences
17:11 oleonard     asif: How did you install Koha on Windows?
17:10 asif         actually as i mentioned i am working on it for  Koha windows
17:10 asif         not i just start working now and found this error
17:10 jcamins      If it did and something changed, maybe changing that thing back will fix the problem.
17:09 jcamins      Did it work in the past?
17:09 jcamins      I can't because I don't know what caused it, sorry.
17:09 asif         ok plz guide me what to do for fix of above said error
17:08 jcamins      Right, I don't understand what that means because Koha runs on Linux only.
17:08 asif         means i m koha for windows
17:07 jcamins      Koha does not run on Windows.
17:07 jcamins      What do you mean, "for Windows"?
17:07 asif         i am using 3.10.04 for windows
17:06 asif         i am using 3.10.4 for windows
17:05 jcamins      asif: what version of Koha?
17:05 asif         whenever i made any changes in prefrences and save it it shows "Internal Server Error, please reload the page", please guide me what to do now to fix this
17:04 asif         please anyone can guide me about the error i am facing in koha
17:04 oleonard     Hi asif
17:04 asif         hi to everyone
17:02 * druthb     hands jcamins the duct tape.  "Don't let her past ya."
17:02 * druthb     gets the velcro ready for cait's return
16:39 drojf        heh
16:39 jcamins      Anyway, right now offline circ is caveat bibliothecus.
16:38 drojf        but well, you can have ff on android if you care
16:38 drojf        i'm more surprised it does not work on android. not important for koha, but for mobile apps
16:37 drojf        opera is going to change things anyway so they might actually support it in the future
16:37 jcamins      If, you know, we cared.
16:36 jcamins      And we could get Safari and Opera with a shim.
16:36 drojf        it's fine for me ;)
16:35 jcamins      FF, Chrome, and IE10 aren't bad.
16:35 drojf        i just wanted to suggest that but it's not really widespread among browsers it seems
16:34 jcamins      I meant this: http://caniuse.com/#feat=indexeddb
16:34 jcamins      drojf: actually, that was the wrong thing.
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16:30 rambutan     I will be glad to test whatever wonderful things come floating down from the sky on the "other browsers", like Konqueror and Epiphany
16:30 drojf        localstorage is rather limited in size. if you want to have the patron db in there that might be a problem
16:28 rambutan     from the start we will only be using Linux systems for everything on there, including the circ module, whatever that happens to be
16:28 tcohen       bye clrh
16:27 jcamins      Though I believe that localstorage is more of a problem.
16:27 clrh         (leaving good week end)
16:27 rambutan     I'm setting up the computer systems for our new/used bookmobile right now...
16:27 jcamins      http://caniuse.com/#feat=offline-apps
16:27 khall        the big three is good enough to me
16:27 jcamins      And...
16:26 jcamins      http://caniuse.com/namevalue-storage
16:25 khall        and it could grab the necessary offline circ data in an ajaxy way.
16:25 jcamins      Well, partly cross-browser.
16:25 khall        standardized, works cross-browser, cross-platform, no local software to install. Sounds great to me!
16:24 jcamins      I'm wondering whether it would be a good idea.
16:24 khall        that sounds pretty spiffy, if it supports all the current features
16:24 paul_p       jcamins in fact, we could add it, in Firefox plugins, you can embeed the patron DB, and store it in a local DB engine. But we haven't made it yet (and no one asked for it)
16:24 jcamins      No.
16:24 khall        is there a patch out there for this?
16:23 jcamins      khall: as the author of the original KOC application, do you have any thoughts about HTML5 off-line functionality?
16:23 jcamins      paul_p: apparently so. :)
16:23 paul_p       jcamins you were wrong then ;-)
16:22 jcamins      I thought that KOCT had everything that Kyle's system had, but was a different interface.
16:22 clrh         jcamins: existants systems does limit the developmment of another if you need it
16:22 jcamins      I didn't realize that.
16:22 jcamins      Hm.
16:22 jcamins      Oh.
16:21 paul_p       jcamins in koct there's not patron information. It's only in khall system that there is some
16:21 clrh         -t
16:21 clrh         jcamins: koct have not patron database
16:21 jcamins      At that time you just go to mainpage.pl and your web browser downloads the HTML5 off-line application.
16:20 jcamins      So at some point, there is a connection to Koha to download the patron database, right?
16:20 jcamins      But that doesn't help if you don't have the patron database.
16:20 clrh         yep
16:20 clrh         or they can access mozilla server to downlaod addon
16:20 paul_p       jcamins you install the plugin when you setup your browser, and it's always available when you need it. Could we do that with HTML5 ?
16:19 clrh         jcamins: librarians already have koct installed
16:19 clrh         we have another nice developpment called "kss" for "koha synchronised system"  but a little more... complex...
16:19 jcamins      paul_p: at some point you must have a connection for downloading the KOC.
16:18 jcamins      Because the ideal would be for people to just keep working when the connection goes down.
16:18 paul_p       jcamins = how could a library get the HTML5 page if there is no network available ?
16:18 clrh         hm
16:17 jcamins      (that is part of regular Koha)
16:17 rambutan     ic, tnx
16:17 jcamins      clrh: yeah, instead of having KOC + KOCT, I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to take the KOCT code and put it into an HTML5 application.
16:16 clrh         and somewhere there is koct
16:16 clrh         rambutan: I am leading developpment team at BibLibre on Koha and Drupal mainly
16:15 clrh         nop
16:15 clrh         jcamins: about ? hmtl5 ?
16:15 kf           pff
16:15 maximep      is there a hard line on what enhancements can make it into minor releases (like 3.12.1) or is it up to the release manager to choose ?
16:15 jcamins      :P
16:15 jcamins      kf: we want you to do more work, of course. Get to work!
16:14 kf           why is noone trying to send me home today?
16:14 jcamins      I guess the easiest thing to do would be to start with a separate, simplified "off-line circ" page that is downloaded by the manifest for mainpage.pl
16:12 rambutan     ic
16:12 jcamins      rambutan: clrh manages the KOCT FF plugin.
16:12 wahanui      i think clrh is a little busy now, I can send you the zeno mail and some information about this
16:12 rambutan     clrh?
16:10 tcohen       yes, sorry, I didn't read the circ thing, was thinking on stuff like frameworks
16:09 jcamins      tcohen: ideally everything should be synchronous, but if there's no internet connection, circ desks need to continue functioning.
16:09 jcamins      clrh: do you have any thoughts on that?
16:09 tcohen       what doesn't need to be synchronous in koha
16:08 jcamins      I'm wondering if it might not be worth considering.
16:07 oleonard     I have not had any, no. Have you?
16:07 wahanui      localstorage is cool
16:07 drojf        localstorage?
16:07 jcamins      oleonard: any thoughts about using HTML5's off-line functionality in Koha's circ module?
16:06 * jcamins    is tired just thinking of it.
16:06 jcamins      Because I probably get 10 e-mail messages per bug. That's 900k e-mail messages!
16:04 clrh         a project with bugtracker and reports means the project leave, so why not ;)
16:01 jcamins      gmcharlt: oh, I'd like people to remain interested in Koha, I'd just like to not have 90k bugs in the next 40 years before I retire.
16:00 * gmcharlt   would be overjoyed if folks continued to be interested in Koha for that long
16:00 oleonard     Hopefully Koha will trigger the singularity before then.
16:00 jcamins      That would mean that we had to deal with 90k bugs!
15:59 jcamins      oleonard: let's hope not?
15:59 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=100000 was not found.
15:59 oleonard     Now I'm wondering if I'll live to see bug 100000
15:59 oleonard     My fingers keep adding extra zeros to this big new bug numbers.
15:55 reiveune     bye
15:49 jcamins      Not a bad idea.
15:49 jcamins      Heh.
15:49 * oleonard   nominates jcamins to add his rule to the sample data :P
15:48 jcamins      I use them with LCN.
15:48 jcamins      Yeah.
15:47 oleonard     But it's possible?
15:47 jcamins      oleonard: there are none in the sample data.
15:47 oleonard     Do authority imports have any kind of record-matching rule?
15:45 rambutan     well, lookie
15:45 jcamins      Mmmm.
15:44 drojf        also, fresh buckwheat bread!
15:43 * drojf      waves three
15:43 * kf         waves too
15:42 * jcamins    waves
15:37 magnuse      good plan :-)
15:37 * kf         stops worrying about the english and continues configuring
15:36 kf           hm thta looks wrong
15:36 magnuse      kf++
15:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10133 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , System preference search behaves different with translated templates
15:36 kf           magnuse: i filed bug 10133
15:36 * magnuse    tries not to think about that and wanders off to play a little with colorful pieces of plastic
15:35 gaetan_B     bye !
15:35 magnuse      including the xslt sysprefs
15:34 magnuse      kf: when i switch to en the search for "language" finds *a lot* more prefs than when i used norwegian!
15:34 drojf        rambutan: i am a good purpose ;)
15:33 magnuse      kf: i tested with norwegian as the active language, yes. will test en now
15:33 rambutan     not if you can't spend it and it gets taken away from you instead of used for a good purpose
15:33 * kf         hands rambutan a cookie
15:32 kf           rambutan: that is a good thing
15:32 rambutan     OH, no, I'm just trying to spend $$. No big deal
15:32 oleonard     rambutan: Do you have a question?
15:31 kf           magnuse: norwegian templates only?
15:30 huginn       rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <jcamins> Joubu: if you set the status to PQA, I'll push it next time I'm pushing things.
15:30 rambutan     @seen jcamins
15:30 tcohen       jenking uses perl 5.10?
15:30 magnuse      kf: that *is* weird
15:29 huginn       rambutan: bag was last seen in #koha 6 days, 11 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <bag> good evening peeps
15:29 rambutan     @seen bag
15:29 drojf        hahaha
15:29 magnuse      same here, searching for "language" and "Language" does not find DefaultLanguageField008, but searching for "DefaultLanguageField008?" does
15:28 wahanui      yw
15:28 kf           thx wahanui
15:28 kf           lol
15:28 wahanui      did you try flushing the cache and deleting wahanui's cookies
15:28 kf           it's weird
15:28 kf           defaultlanguage wilo find it in german too
15:28 oleonard     Full or partial string
15:28 oleonard     I can search for other preferences for which the preference name is not in the description
15:26 kf           for english it's part of the description too: language
15:26 kf           i think i know why
15:26 huginn       rambutan: natec was last seen in #koha 2 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <NateC> Hiya amitgupta_
15:26 rambutan     @seen natec
15:26 kf           oleonard: doesn't work for german
15:26 huginn       rambutan: nate was last seen in #koha 2 years, 10 weeks, 4 days, 20 hours, 36 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Nate> Hi cait and everyone!
15:26 rambutan     @seen nate
15:25 oleonard     Works for me kf
15:25 kf           can someone confirm a syspref search for language doesn't find DefaultLanguageField008?
15:25 kf           hmm
15:12 kf           I will file an enh as a note to myself
15:12 kf           could be optional
15:12 drojf        there may be libraries that have several branches with one code, but they can just put the same in there then
15:12 kf           well... I have now
15:11 drojf        oh, i did not know we have that! and yes, you are right
15:11 kf           yeah, but what if you have different branches with different orgcodes? :)
15:10 drojf        we have marcorgcode as a syspref?
15:09 * kf         wonders if marcorgcode shoudl not be branch level instead of global
15:08 tcohen       kf, i'd pull that commit from the repo
15:08 drojf        lol
15:08 * magnuse    didn't know we had one
15:08 magnuse      oops
15:08 wahanui      That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
15:08 magnuse      drojf: awesome!
15:07 tcohen       question: value builder scripts are called directly as command line scripts? and rely on their output to stdout?
15:06 alex_a       bye Joubu
15:06 kf           bye Joubu :)
15:06 Joubu        have a good week end #koha! bye
15:05 drojf        that one looks quite majestic though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Male_NZ_giraffe_beetle_Lasiorhyncus_barbicornus_15_January_2011_001_Jamie_Anderson.JPG
15:03 drojf        omg that is… i have no words :D
15:03 kf           lol
15:02 magnuse      hehe
15:02 drojf        koha bugs usually are very intelligent
15:02 magnuse      well, maybe except this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giraffe_weevil
15:02 magnuse      there are no silly bugs!
15:01 kf           oleonard: it's me you can blame, because I file lots of silly bugs for little oddities :)
15:01 kf           yeah i know not easy
15:01 kf           maximep: add time for integrating into koha communtiy :)
15:00 drojf        maximep: :D
15:00 maximep      hard to explain it the the client
15:00 maximep      kf: yeah, I know all that
15:00 kf           maximep: ideally there would be some kind of balance
15:00 maximep      drojf: haha I think you don't know who I work for :P. We have about 150 git branches that we apply to koha =)
15:00 kf           maximep: generally signing off is good if you want others to sign off on your patches
15:00 kf           well... it shoud still not eplode into a perl error... ever, should it? :)
14:59 magnuse      does it say anywhere you can use *?
14:59 drojf        maximep: if you need the enhancements you could build your own packages with the version you want to use plus your patches until they are in koha
14:59 magnuse      i'd say no
14:59 magnuse      um, yay!
14:59 kf           should I file a bug for the horror of using *?
14:59 kf           ok, works now for me too
14:59 magnuse      kf: searching for "black" works for me in master
14:58 * magnuse    thinks so too
14:58 kf           so who can reproduce the black problem?
14:58 kf           oleonard: totally :)
14:58 oleonard     I would like to think it's not that Koha has more bugs, but that we're better at finding them. :|
14:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip
14:57 magnuse      wow, it seems like bug #10000 was yesterday, and now we have 10130
14:57 maximep      I know
14:56 magnuse      if they are enhancements they will not make it into 3.12 even if they are signed off...
14:56 oleonard     It would be better to sign off on something that can make it into 3.12 maximep
14:56 maximep      we need those 2 patches, so I will probably try to do my first signoff if I can =)
14:56 magnuse      hm, guess we should have had a bug squashing day round about now...
14:55 magnuse      yeah, definitely!
14:53 oleonard     And patch signoffs!
14:53 magnuse      no new features will be considered, but bugfixes are very welcome :-)
14:53 maximep      ok that's what I tought. Thanks
14:53 magnuse      maximep: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_to_3.12
14:53 oleonard     maximep: Feature frozen, so yes they will have to wait.
14:52 magnuse      drojf: possibly, but i wouldn't bet on it
14:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , multiple holds per title
14:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Use reserve_id where possible
14:52 maximep      do I understand correctly that 3.12 is frozen ? Bugs like bug 9394 and bug 7710 will have to wait for 3.14, right ?
14:52 drojf        magnuse: regarding the normarc bugs, is it possible that NORMARC is the most crazy flavour of MARC? :P
14:50 drojf        highly addictive!
14:50 magnuse      possibly addictive
14:50 magnuse      it is!
14:49 drojf        but it's fun ;)
14:49 * drojf      neither
14:48 * magnuse    never tried * in the syspref search before
14:47 drojf        but the *black* problem is in english too
14:47 drojf        :)
14:46 kf           drojf: you know my problem... reinstalling templates is in order
14:46 magnuse      hasn't syspref search always been automatically right and left truncated?
14:45 kf           ... I have an idea
14:45 kf           oleonard: it works only in english for me
14:45 oleonard     Yeah I get that too
14:45 kf           Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/* <-- HERE black*/ at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/preferences.pl line 255
14:45 kf           oh, and when you search for *black* the search explodes
14:45 oleonard     it worked for me with "black"
14:44 kf           it seems truncated search is broken?
14:44 kf           and black does not work
14:44 kf           notes does not work
14:44 kf           but I can't find it
14:44 kf           yep
14:44 oleonard     NotesBlacklist ?
14:44 kf           can someone try a search for "black" in the systempreferences search on master for me?
14:44 kf           something with the pref search is not right
14:44 kf           hm
14:42 magnuse      kf++
14:42 drojf        more cookies for me then
14:42 magnuse      tee hee
14:42 * kf         pouts
14:41 drojf        cookie? :)
14:41 drojf        :)
14:41 kf           drojf: hmpf
14:41 drojf        apparently it felt bad to correct spelling too :P
14:40 huginn       kf: The operation succeeded.  Quote #243 added.
14:40 kf           @quote add only when yousend no patches at all you will never break something
14:40 kf           it feels so
14:40 kf           i could... but is it weird to save your own quotes?
14:40 magnuse      ooh, someone save that as a quote?
14:39 tcohen       thx
14:39 kf           tcohen: only when yousend no patches at all you will never break something
14:37 tcohen       :(
14:37 kf           tcohen++ :)
14:37 kf           unhappy catalogers are no fun
14:37 tcohen       i'm doing a fresh install of all versions to test for the bug and the workaround
14:37 kf           hm that sounds bad
14:37 tcohen       breaks value_builder scripts  reading the corresponding xml
14:36 tcohen       ok
14:36 kf           and if it's bad - mark it blocker
14:36 kf           tcohen: maybe do a separate bug report, and link it
14:36 tcohen       i think it is, yes
14:36 kf           and do you know if it's already in the new 3.8.x release?
14:35 kf           tcohen: can you provide a patch or should it be pulled out?
14:35 tcohen       it needs to be fixed for the 3.12 release
14:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9812 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Several files shouldn't be exposed or browseable through a URL
14:35 tcohen       bug 9812
14:34 kf           tcohen: which one is it?
14:34 kf           uhoh
14:34 tcohen       kf, there's a big problem with a patch I sent a while ago, which hit 3.8 through master
14:33 kf           oleonard: oooh that means I have to send the patch myself? :P
14:33 kf           every dead bug is a good bug ;)
14:33 magnuse      kf++
14:33 kf           until the release is out
14:33 kf           I will only qa bugs for now
14:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7055 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , NORMARC: Links and defaults for 008 position 15-17 and 35-37
14:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7054 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , NORMARC: wrong default for 000 position 17
14:33 * magnuse    discovers to NORMARC bugs that were marked as ENH: bug 7054 and bug 7055 - both would be good to have in 3.12
14:31 kf           depending on how fast we sign off and qa
14:31 kf           oleonard: all bugs really can still go in
14:31 * magnuse    would think most of them are eligible for 3.12
14:28 oleonard     I count 32 non-enhancement patches needing signoff, but I don't know which of those are 3.14
14:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9219 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are on moremember.pl
14:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports
14:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
14:27 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9219 - Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are on moremember.pl
14:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10115 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hiding advanced search in Orders search tab removes plus button
14:27 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9659: Move new unit test to db-dependent directory
14:27 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9659 - QA Follow up: Unit tests
14:27 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9659 - Better handling of non-existent authorised value categories used in SQL reports
14:27 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10107 - opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
14:27 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10115 - Hiding advanced search in Orders search tab removes plus button
14:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1150: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1150/
14:27 Joubu        jcamins: probably it's better someone tests them, so back to NSO
14:26 magnuse      someone with spare time could maybe have a look at the failed qa stuff - see if there are any that should be rescued in time for 3.12
14:26 jcamins      Joubu: if you set the status to PQA, I'll push it next time I'm pushing things.
14:25 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10070 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , History of anonymous searches is not kept
14:25 Joubu        jcamins: did you see my patches for bug 10070? Should I open a new report? Switch back the status to need SO?
14:24 jcamins      Bugs marked for master are often for 3.12 as well, too.
14:24 jcamins      Cool!
14:23 khall        http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?list_id=60447&query_format=advanced&bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&version=3.12
14:23 khall        jcamins: looks that way
14:22 oleonard     Thanks Joubu
14:22 magnuse      pizza and um, water here later
14:22 jcamins      Are we out of bugs for 3.12 in the NSO queue?
14:22 tcohen       (for celebrating the 3.12 release)
14:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10129 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Babeltheque does not depend on COinSinOPACResults
14:22 Joubu        oleonard: done (bug 10129). I don't think the image path issue is dependent on my patch.
14:22 tcohen       pizza and fernet+coke here
14:22 magnuse      w00t!
14:21 tcohen       i did magnuse
14:21 magnuse      did someone mention pizza?
14:20 jcamins      oleonard: to celebrate.
14:20 khall        indeed! I'd really like to start trying my hand at QA, but I can't get the dang script to work right!
14:19 jcamins      khall: moving on to signing off on patches for 3.14? :)
14:19 oleonard     You bet they are wahanui
14:19 wahanui      Cookies are delicious delicacies
14:19 oleonard     cookies?
14:19 jcamins      tcohen: probably cookies.
14:16 oleonard     I hereby grant you permission.
14:15 kf           yep
14:14 oleonard     kf: Where? admin/branches.pl?
14:14 kf           talking about the display :)
14:14 kf           [off] Zentrum für Wissensmanagement doesn't fit in :)
14:13 kf           oleonard: hm coudl we make the fields in branches longer?
14:13 tcohen       jcamins, how will we celebrate the birth of 3.12? Pizza?
14:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10125 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Babeltheque star image must use sprite
14:06 oleonard     I have a fix for Bug 10125, but I'll probably need to make it dependent on yours
14:06 oleonard     No I didn't
14:05 Joubu        I have a patch. The idea is to group all loops into just one.
14:04 Joubu        oleonard: did you open a report for that?
14:00 oleonard     I guess it probably doesn't actually slow anything down if nothing is really using it
14:00 oleonard     So yes, COinSinOPACResults defaults to ON even though, "NOTE: this can slow down search response time significantly"
13:46 oleonard     opac-search.pl has 6 separate variations of foreach (@newresults). Isn't that... inefficient?
13:41 oleonard     I wonder if COinSinOPACResults defaults to being on in new installations?
13:41 Joubu        oleonard: yep, I confirm, it's not the expected behavior...
13:40 gaetan_B     i have no idea how it got in there
13:40 gaetan_B     oleonard: ok, Joubu agrees this doesn't seem to have any purpose
13:34 oleonard     The call to GetCOinSBiblio looks like it doesn't have any purpose
13:34 oleonard     See lines 581+ of opac-search.pl
13:34 gaetan_B     i really wonder why babelthèque should only work if this syspref is on...
13:33 gaetan_B     i would also be extremely surprised
13:33 oleonard     gaetan_B: It doesn't look like it does based on what I see in opac-search.pl
13:33 gaetan_B     oleonard: hmm this is weird, i don't think COinS has anything to do with babelthèque, let me ask my colleagues about this...
13:30 jcamins      I always thought the point of COinS was to enable client software to make use of it.
13:30 jcamins      I guess.
13:30 oleonard     ...of which Babeltheque is the only example at this time?
13:29 oleonard     So Babeltheque falls under the broader heading of services which run over COinS / OpenURL / Z39.88?
13:28 oleonard     The babeltheque stuff only shows if C4::Context->preference('COinSinOPACResults') is set
13:28 oleonard     Oh, I get it...
13:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #1150 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9219 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are on moremember.pl
13:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports
13:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
13:18 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9219 - Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are on moremember.pl
13:18 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9659: Move new unit test to db-dependent directory
13:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9659 - QA Follow up: Unit tests
13:18 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10115 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hiding advanced search in Orders search tab removes plus button
13:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9659 - Better handling of non-existent authorised value categories used in SQL reports
13:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10107 - opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
13:18 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10115 - Hiding advanced search in Orders search tab removes plus button
13:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #15: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/15/
13:11 kf           you can aks eythian - it's quite nice here in summer
13:10 kf           maybe with the right... incentive?
13:10 kf           lol
13:09 oleonard     I thought I would make the family do acquisitions usability testing all day long ;)
13:08 kf           oleonard: what about bringing the family for vacation at the lake... ?
13:08 kf           oleonard: I am all for that :)
13:07 jcamins      lol
13:05 oleonard     Yeah that's what we always said about book cover image sources :P
13:05 jcamins      I guess if you use one you don't want to use the other?
13:04 oleonard     Easy enough to convert the Babeltheque display to match the local star ratings, but then it's even more confusing
13:04 jcamins      Possibly not ideal.
13:03 oleonard     http://zivotdesign.com/zp/albums/Koha/development/babeltheque-and-koha-star-ratings.png
12:57 tcohen       anyone around with time to do a fresh install from master? (an apache setup)
12:54 * libsysguy  ducks
12:54 * druthb     chucks Skittles at libsysguy.
12:52 libsysguy    semi-relivant: http://people.gnome.org/~michael/data/2013-02-03-re-factoring.pdf
12:51 oleonard     Oooh, or an emergency Acquisitions hackfest in Konstanz!
12:49 oleonard     I think it's time for an emergency Acquisitions hackfest in Marseille. To the airport!
12:48 jcamins      Since the entire module is unusable, I would hardly be surprised if someone put the wrong things on the toolbar at the offset.
12:48 jcamins      oleonard: that's quite possible.
12:48 oleonard     jcamins: I don't think the issue you see with the toolbar on aqbudgets.pl was introduced by my update
12:46 jcamins      The latest LibreOffice can't print avery labels.
12:46 wahanui      That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins
12:46 jcamins      Awesome.
12:45 jcamins      Ah.
12:43 oleonard     Looks like it's a Babeltheque thing
12:41 oleonard     Works in ccsr too
12:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #15 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:40 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9219' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=03b4dfe846047f233d7de84d8987f6622ee24129> / Bug 9219 - Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6385cfd1dc6c0dbceed0064c35f6f86f86e22be2> / Merge branch 'bug_9659' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
12:40 oleonard     Yeah star ratings use the sprite, and it works in prog
12:40 oleonard     wahanui++
12:38 jcamins      Maybe.
12:38 wahanui      hmmm... ccsr is not behaving
12:38 kf           hm ccsr?
12:37 jcamins      Though I think that star ratings is already using sprites.
12:37 jcamins      Yeah, that would make sense.
12:37 kf           looks more like the star rating to me
12:37 kf           he might confuse thta somehow?
12:36 jcamins      I don't think COinS uses images at all.
12:36 jcamins      I don't think it does.
12:36 jcamins      No idea.
12:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10125 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , COinS star image must use sprite
12:36 oleonard     I have no idea what Bug 10125 is about. How does COinS use star images?
12:36 wahanui      it has been said that k is there no other way to access it from another web browser
12:36 kf           k?
12:35 jcamins      No, the merge conflict in 10073 caused my web browser to cache a bad gateway response.
12:34 kf           ah meeting?
12:34 jcamins      Actually, I'm done for the day.
12:34 jcamins      Oh, no I'm not.
12:34 kf           ah right
12:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10073 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Show ccode or location also if not bound to Authorized Values in XSLT
12:34 jcamins      Bug 10073.
12:33 kf           what are you looking at now?
12:32 jcamins      Yup.
12:32 kf           to test?
12:32 kf           too big?
12:32 * jcamins    moves on to the next patch.
12:32 jcamins      It's already 8:30.
12:31 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
12:31 jcamins      I don't think I'm pushing bug 2774 this morning.
12:30 jcamins      The edit button on aqbudgets.pl (i.e. the page for editing "Funds"... talk about poor naming) is all about budgets.
12:30 jcamins      oleonard: I think I may have found a bug in the new acquisitions interface.
12:29 jcamins      oleonard: no, I think it's just that bad.
12:29 oleonard     Acquisitions makes me grumpy too jcamins, but I always assume I just don't understand how it works.
12:29 kf           I would have to refer that question to the 2 libraries we got that use acq
12:29 jcamins      How does anyone manage to run an acquisitions department?
12:21 jcamins      Hehe.
12:21 kf           you can inventone :)
12:21 jcamins      Pizza cookie?
12:21 kf           no idea what that is.. but seems fitting for friday
12:20 * kf         hands jcamins a pizza cookie
12:20 kf           that's not good
12:20 jcamins      Mystery solved.
12:20 jcamins      The framework is gone.
12:20 jcamins      I have.
12:20 kf           I have seen wird things happening when the 952 was messed up
12:20 jcamins      Good idea.
12:20 kf           have you checked the frameowrk for this record?
12:20 kf           oh ouch
12:19 jcamins      Could someone please check on latest master whether that happens to you?
12:18 jcamins      Anyone seen this before: http://screencast.com/t/pNwTA91GU
12:18 jcamins      Well, this is new.
12:07 kf           thx for 10044 :)
12:07 Joubu        hello kf :)
12:07 Joubu        jcamins: arf yes, this morning :-/
12:07 alex_a       :D
12:07 kf           Joubu++ :)
12:06 francharb    hi kf
12:06 kf           hi Joubu too! :)
12:05 kf           :)
12:05 kf           hi francharb
12:05 francharb    hi all
12:05 francharb    alex_a, ici faut parler en anglais
12:05 jcamins      Joubu: there have been two recently. When you've attached a patch without your signoff I've just been adding it.
12:00 Joubu        jcamins: oops, which one?
11:58 kf           hi jcamins
11:57 jcamins      Joubu: don't forget to sign off patches before attaching them when QAing.
09:53 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @anitsirk: "Created second #kohails patch with the awesome help of @ranginui because it involved a DB upgrade. How can you reflect that in commit count?"
08:26 magnuse      hehe
08:26 drojf        what a karmic morning :)
08:25 kf           drojf++
08:25 kf           actually I agree it's good
08:24 kf           I didn't object...
08:24 kf           :P
08:23 drojf        i'll leave it for now. patches welcome :P
08:23 magnuse      drojf: looks good to me the way it is, but if kf objects we better listen :-)
08:20 drojf        hm but i don't see the difference between having it before the example or after. just that people that don't read all first will try to create the file and then read that they don't have to?
08:18 drojf        apparently it is not :)
08:17 drojf        skip creating the file, do what is next. i thought it was obvious :)
08:17 kf           or move the bold part under the example
08:17 kf           do I still have to do the a2enmod rewrite?
08:17 kf           maybe say where to continue if not creating the file?
08:15 drojf        i added it to the wiki, does that look ok? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze#Initial_Configuration
08:12 mike_        crontabnuB: sorry I'm a complete newb with koha...
08:11 magnuse      lol
08:11 mike_        hehehe... ok... I HAVE been working o a way to send a nice alcohol buzz remotely... not ready yet... but when it is... I'll put you both on the top of the list... hahaha... so if you happen to be walking down the street in the next month.. and suddenly get a nice buzz going... ;)   you can credit/blame me... hahahaha... ;) <3
08:11 magnuse      crontabnuB: how did you install? packages, tarball, git?
08:10 crontabnuB   kf drojf magnuse mike_ no tips on fixing zebra_rebuild.pl call in crontab?
08:09 magnuse      and here...
08:06 kf           same here...
08:06 drojf        unfortunately it's 10am here so i'll have that drink later ;)
08:02 mike_        hahaha.... well it's 1 am here and I have vodka cran if anyone wants to help me figure out how to send it on irc... hahaha  ;) :D (cheers)
08:01 drojf        LOL
08:01 magnuse      drojf: you can take the rest of the day off now ;-)
08:01 magnuse      you are!
08:01 drojf        yay, i'm useful
08:00 magnuse      drojf++ for fixing it - i was groping in the dark
07:59 kf           drojf++ magnuse++
07:59 kf           :)
07:59 drojf        heh. glad it worked ;)
07:58 mike_        innumerable thanks to you both... magnuse and drojf... (slides a nice tall drink down your way) ;)
07:57 mike_        ok I'm gonna get finished setting this up....
07:56 mike_        ah ok... looks like it generated a new unique password... sweet.. ok looks like everythings back on track now... :)
07:56 crontabnuB   zebra index crontab not working, any help appreciated
07:53 mike_        ok
07:53 magnuse      yeah, look in /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
07:53 kf           will leave that to the experts :)
07:53 * kf         backs out
07:52 drojf        mike_: where did you set them up? you find the database login stuff in /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
07:52 kf           it generates one - you can find it in the koha-conf.xml file
07:52 magnuse      mike_: you use the same login that you set up for mysql?
07:52 mike_        is the admin password dynamically generated??? should I try to see if I have a new password now that it installed from defaults???
07:52 kf           mike_: hm with packages you don't set up the password I think
07:52 magnuse      what would be a good name? "Sample configurations for the Debian packages"?
07:51 mike_        hmmm... well now the weblogin works... but the username and login that I set up earlier seem not to be getting me logged in... ??? is that possible???
07:51 drojf        i did, into my own wiki :P but yes, that should probably be in the koha wiki
07:51 magnuse      yeah, put it on the wiki! ;-)
07:51 drojf        kf: ah yes i remember :)
07:51 kf           drojf: that is what you told me to do too right? :) you shoudl write it down somewhere! :)
07:50 drojf        because i never need dns and always fiddled with that file
07:50 drojf        magnuse: i discovered that when i prepared my workshops, i didn't know that either. it made my life so much easier
07:49 * magnuse    didn't know that
07:49 magnuse      plus that trick about the defaults if you don't set up /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
07:49 magnuse      i think the wiki could use some examples of settings in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and the urls they result in
07:48 mike_        yeah... wondering if that tutorial needs to be updated... I've been following it to the letter and getting lost...
07:47 mike_        hmm.... well I guess that at least narrows things down... and I've got a sysadmin friend who might be able to help me figure out the DNS part...
07:47 drojf        or even _in_ the wiki
07:46 drojf        maybe there is an example on the wiki?
07:46 drojf        i never did the dns part. it's more an apache config problem than a koha thing i guess
07:45 mike_        oh the koha headaches I've been having... hahaha
07:45 drojf        OH!
07:45 crontabnuB   anybody handy with rebuild_zebra.pl and crontab?
07:45 mike_        ug... yes this is supposed to be a production machine I'm delivering tomorrow afternoon...
07:45 drojf        :)
07:45 mike_        yeah... (passes the ball to drojf for the touch down!)  ... :)
07:44 drojf        because the dns stuff was fishy, i guess. the problem is, you probably want to use that in production. but you have an instance to play with for now
07:44 magnuse      drojf++
07:44 mike_        I have no idea why though... ???
07:43 drojf        :)
07:43 mike_        drojf:  YAY!!!!  OMFG!!!  IT FINALLY WORKED!!! :)
07:43 crontabnuB   line is */10 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null
07:42 drojf        hm that looks like two things are running. what do you get when you open :8080 in the browser
07:42 crontabnuB   crontab not working, kohauser mail says "/bin/sh: koha: not found"
07:40 mike_        [Fri Apr 26 00:35:24 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:40 mike_        ... waiting [Fri Apr 26 00:35:24 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8080 has no VirtualHosts
07:40 mike_        [Fri Apr 26 00:35:23 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:40 mike_        * Restarting web server apache2                                                                                               [Fri Apr 26 00:35:23 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8080 has no VirtualHosts
07:40 mike_        removing dangling symlink /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library
07:40 mike_        Stopping Zebra server for library
07:40 mike_        Removing Koha instance library
07:40 mike_        does this look right????
07:40 mike_        drojf:... ok did the rm... and the koha-remove... but then got some errors...
07:39 crontabnuB   anybody awake?
07:37 drojf        not sure what it thinks about creating the db if it is already there but i would try that
07:37 mike_        then sudo koha-create --create-db library   to start fresh???
07:36 kf           hi gaetan_B
07:36 mike_        then koha-list to make sure no instances
07:36 drojf        :)
07:35 mike_        haha... oops... thanks... it's late here I'm starting to get blury eyed...
07:35 drojf        koha-remove :)
07:35 mike_        then... sudo kohana-remove library
07:34 drojf        yes. that is the file you edited in the beginning, right?
07:34 mike_        so ... rm  /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
07:33 mike_        sweet... ok I'll give that a try
07:33 drojf        then you get defaults
07:33 mike_        ok
07:33 drojf        try an installation without it
07:33 mike_        ?...
07:33 drojf        that is where the ports/dns stuff is inside. you don't want that for now
07:33 mike_        no
07:33 drojf        did you delete /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf ?
07:33 mike_        did that earlier... but I'll gladly try it again in the hopes of moving forward... :)
07:32 drojf        mike_: what i would do is: delete the instance you have now. delete /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf. create a new instance. done (maybe)
07:31 wahanui      drojf: I forgot which files
07:31 drojf        wahanui: forget which files
07:31 wahanui      which files are needed from the custom jQueryUI zip?
07:31 drojf        which files?
07:31 drojf        some of these files?
07:31 mike_        kinda makes sense... but I'm kinda confused why some of these files have both set to *:80... unless that is just a preliminary default... ???
07:31 wahanui      que tal, gaetan_B
07:31 gaetan_B     hello
07:30 drojf        mike_: yes, that is the standard if you don't use dns
07:30 drojf        mike_: maybe you should start with a new instance. without the dns config. it works almost out of the box, you just add the Listen 8080 to ports.conf (you already have that)
07:30 mike_        is Intranet SUPPOSED to be set to 8080... ???
07:30 mike_        drojf:  ... oh yeah... ok.. yeah... both OPAC and Intranet were set to use *:80 ... so I tried to set Intranet to *:8080... made no difference though...
07:28 mike_        drojf... I'll have to go check again... my brain's starting to get scrambled... I've been changing this every way I can think of in the last few hours... hahaha... ;) brb
07:27 mike_        I tried doing the ip directly magnuse... so far no difference...
07:26 magnuse      it *might* work if you change that to "ServerName 192.168.0.6:8080" but i'm not sure
07:26 drojf        magnuse: oh, i did not see that! i thought this was a non-dns thing
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07:25 drojf        mike_: there was something about you changing 8080 to 80 in the sites-available/library?
07:25 magnuse      as long as you have "ServerName library-intra.tomoffinlandfoundation.org" i think you need to have dns set up
07:24 wahanui      well, 404 is not found
07:24 magnuse      404?
07:24 wahanui      OK, magnuse.
07:24 magnuse      wahanui: 404 is not found
07:24 wahanui      drojf: I forgot 404
07:24 drojf        wahanui: forget 404
07:24 drojf        lol wahanui
07:24 drojf        disclaimer: i have not read back in the logs what other things you talked about so maybe i missed something relevant
07:22 wahanui      404 is better for opac
07:22 mike_        hmm... still 404... ???
07:21 drojf        it will definitely not work without that :)
07:20 drojf        that looks pretty standard. so adding "Listen 8080" to ports.conf and restarting apache might just work
07:19 magnuse      drojf: here is mike_'s apache config: http://paste.koha-community.org/481
07:19 mike_        yeah not using DNS right now... I think I will need to though... but not exactly sure on how to make that work...
07:19 drojf        (if you changed things there)
07:19 drojf        add listen 8080 and make sure that the sites-available/yourinstancename has the same port for intranet
07:18 pastebot     "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "from /etc/apache2/ports.conf" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/483
07:18 kf           me thinks drojf is right about taht
07:18 drojf        if you are not using dns you need to have two ports
07:18 magnuse      let me check my production server...
07:17 mike_        gonna try it...
07:17 mike_        you think the * to listen to all incoming requests... and the addition of "Listen 8080" might work better.. ??
07:16 christophe_c hello #koha
07:16 mike_        Listen 80
07:16 mike_        I think originally this file had NameVirtualHost *:80
07:15 mike_        magnuse... in /etc/apache2/ports.conf  ???   in addition to the NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80
07:13 magnuse      i think maybe you need a "NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:8080" too
07:13 drojf        yeah that's not it
07:13 mike_        Site default already disabled
07:13 mike_        drojf:  sudo a2dissite 000-default
07:12 drojf        ok
07:12 mike_        drojf... no I shut it down already
07:11 mike_        magnuse:  hum...   NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80   that's all though...
07:10 drojf        mike_ magnuse is the default apache site still running?
07:10 kf           morning paul_p
07:10 drojf        morning paul_p
07:09 magnuse      bonjour paul_p
07:09 paul_p       'morning #koha
07:08 magnuse      and yeah, how to fix is the big question ;-)
07:08 magnuse      it says so in a couple of the errors
07:08 magnuse      mike_: is there anything about VirtualHost in /etc/apache2/ports.conf ?
07:08 mike_        and how to fix???
07:07 mike_        magnuse: where??
07:07 magnuse      mike_: "_default_ VirtualHost" looks weird
07:06 wahanui      hola, asaurat
07:06 asaurat      hi
07:06 mike_        [Fri Apr 26 00:00:57 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:06 mike_        ... waiting [Fri Apr 26 00:00:57 2013] [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence
07:06 mike_        [Fri Apr 26 00:00:56 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:06 mike_        * Restarting web server apache2                                                                                               [Fri Apr 26 00:00:56 2013] [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence
07:06 mike_        longer error now actually...
07:05 mike_        ok restarted apache... but still no change
07:05 mike_        ah ok good to know
07:04 magnuse      yeah, i get that all the time, should be harmless
07:03 mike_
07:03 mike_        ... waiting [Thu Apr 25 23:58:30 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:03 mike_        magnuse: ok different error:   * Restarting web server apache2                                                                                               [Thu Apr 25 23:58:29 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:00 magnuse      i suspect you need it for the setup you have now to work too, though
07:00 magnuse      mike_: you could change <VirtualHost *:8080> to <VirtualHost *:80> in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<instance>, but then you definitely need dns set up for it to work
06:59 drojf        good morning #koha
06:59 mike_        ok
06:59 mike_        ok
06:58 magnuse      then restart apache with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
06:58 mike_        ah ok... should I put it back???   I was confused because in the tutorial... both INTRAPORT and OPACPORT both = "80"
06:58 wahanui      Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
06:58 huginn       GERMS!!!!
06:58 magnuse      below where it says "Listen 80"
06:58 magnuse      try adding "Listen 8080" to /etc/apache2/ports.conf
06:57 magnuse      no, changing that will only affect new instances, not ones that have already been created
06:56 mike_        magnuse:  earlier I modified the /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and changed INTRAPORT to 8080... though.. still no effect though... but not entirely sure that's the right place to do it...  ?????
06:54 mike_        Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at 192.168.0.6 Port 8080
06:54 mike_        The requested URL / was not found on this server.
06:54 mike_        magnuse: but when I type http://192.168.0.6:8080/  I get:   Not Found
06:54 magnuse      yeah, that is the opac and you get that message because you have not run the web installer yet
06:53 mike_        magnuse: however when I type 192.168.0.6:80   I get the message: The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon!
06:52 magnuse      you can see the opac, is that it?
06:52 mike_        no to both... I was following this install tutorial... when I got stuck and was unable to get the web interface... haven't got that far I think... ???
06:51 wahanui      hola, reiveune
06:51 reiveune     hello
06:50 magnuse      and have you added "Listen 8080" anywhere?
06:50 magnuse      have you set that up in dns?
06:50 magnuse      mike_: your intranet should be available at library-intra.tomoffinlandfoundation.org:8080
06:49 * magnuse    finnishes breakfast
06:47 mike_        magnuse: http://paste.koha-community.org/482
06:44 mike_        magnuse: http://paste.koha-community.org/481
06:35 mike_        magnuse... yeah... only file in sites-enabled is a link called... library
06:34 mike_        thanks for your help cait :):):)
06:33 alex_a       bonjour
06:32 cait         bbl
06:32 cait         have to go
06:30 mike_        tonight I"m working on this in my house... but tomorrow it's supposed to be delivered to the organization... so I figured working with the IP would be fine for tonight...
06:29 mike_        yeah... I can only get to the server using the ip addy...
06:28 cait         and i guess yo tried library-intra.tomoffinlandfoundation.org?
06:28 cait         hm
06:26 mike_        http://paste.koha-community.org/480
06:22 magnuse      are there other files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ ?
06:22 magnuse      that does not look a koha apache config
06:22 magnuse      mike_: better if you paste on http://paste.koha-community.org, then paste the resulting url here
06:22 cait         mike: try using paste.koha-community.org
06:21 mike_        </IfModule>
06:21 mike_        Listen 443
06:21 mike_        <IfModule mod_gnutls.c>
06:21 mike_        </IfModule>
06:21 mike_        Listen 443
06:21 mike_        # supported by MSIE on Windows XP.
06:21 mike_        # Server Name Indication for SSL named virtual hosts is currently not
06:21 mike_        # to <VirtualHost *:443>
06:21 mike_        # the VirtualHost statement in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl
06:21 mike_        # If you add NameVirtualHost *:443 here, you will also have to change
06:21 mike_        <IfModule mod_ssl.c>
06:21 mike_        Listen 80
06:21 mike_        NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80
06:20 mike_        # README.Debian.gz
06:20 mike_        # Debian etch). See /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/NEWS.Debian.gz and
06:20 mike_        # This is also true if you have upgraded from before 2.2.9-3 (i.e. from
06:20 mike_        # /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
06:20 mike_        # have to change the VirtualHost statement in
06:20 mike_        # If you just change the port or add more ports here, you will likely also
06:17 mike_        mmm... ug... anyone know how to copy and paste from putty... ??? :)
06:07 mike_        sure hold on
06:06 magnuse      mike_: could you paste the contents of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<instance> there?
06:06 wahanui      I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
06:06 magnuse      paste?
06:03 mike_        no the tutorial says to add the line "Listen 80" if it's not already there... but it is
06:00 magnuse      did you set "Listen 8080" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf? just a thought...
05:56 mike_        it responds on port 80 for the OPAC... but not to 8080 for the Intranet... ????
05:56 magnuse      sorry, i gotta make breakfast, will be back in ~30
05:55 mike_        :)  thanks... yeah looking at it right now
05:55 magnuse      hiya cait
05:55 magnuse      have a look at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<instance> if you are in doubt about how things are set up
05:55 cait         morning magnuse
05:54 magnuse      "NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts" should not be a big problem, i get that all the time
05:54 cait         but i only have done 1-2 instaces so far, as I mostly use a dev environment
05:53 cait         i think the apache file is generated when you create the instance with the cnfiugration given in that file
05:48 mike_        is the virtual host part set up in the koha-sites.conf ???
05:45 mike_        hmm... different error... NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
05:41 mike_        ah ok... I'll try that
05:39 cait         this to remove $ sudo koha-remove {instance}
05:38 cait         $ sudo koha-create --create-db library  this is to create a new instance
05:38 cait         maybe backup and edit instead of remove
05:34 mike_        um... how do you mean to remove the instance and create a new one???... just rm the koha-sites.conf and start over ???
05:33 mike_        yeah I don't really need a prefix or suffix... just following the tutorial... what matters most is that I get a working machine by tomorrow...
05:32 cait         using different ports
05:32 cait         maybe try removing your instance and creating a new one
05:32 mike_        hmm... when I restart apache... I get some errors... default virtualHost overlap on port 80... NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6.80 has no virtual hosts...
05:32 cait         i normally not use the suffix/prefix but different ports
05:31 cait         yeah it seems so
05:28 mike_        I see... but INTRAPORT and OPACPORT are both set to 80 in that tutorial... is that right??
05:27 mike_        oops found a typo onder intrasuffix... maybe this will help
05:25 mike_        yeah it's configured to use *:80 for the staff interface
05:25 mike_        ah ok...
05:25 cait         if 192.168.0.6:8080 doesn't work
05:24 cait         you have to find out how to access the staff interface, maybe take a look at how the /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf looks for you
05:24 cait         that's the opac
05:24 mike_        what I'm using is... 192.168.0.6:80
05:24 cait         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Pre-Web_Install_Setup
05:23 cait         sometimes people use different ports, sometimes a url prefix, sometimes a url suffix
05:23 mike_        I can only pull it up using the ip addy
05:23 cait         this file is used to set how you will access the intranet page
05:22 cait         if not maybe your intranet url is yourdomain-intra - the example shows suffix
05:22 mike_        yeah... ??? uh... not sure... what are you talking about???
05:22 cait         did you change the file mentioned there?
05:22 cait         mike_: did you see the initial configuration heading on the wiki?
05:21 mib_484e9q   mike_ for what its worth, I had to reinstall a few times until I got the hang of it
05:21 cait         tricking the database won't help you because you have to access that
05:21 mike_        ok
05:20 cait         yo uhave to go to the intranetpage
05:20 cait         mike_: no
05:20 cait         you have to try to figure out how to go to staff instead of opac
05:20 cait         mike_: if you haven't changed anything - try intra.whatever
05:20 mike_        maybe... any idea if I can find the database code and build the database myself... if maybe THAT will get it running???
05:20 mib_484e9q   I'll tune back during in the North American morning, thanks @cait
05:20 cait         so late for you? I am about to leave for work
05:19 mib_484e9q   yeah, that's the problem - I'm in Asia lol
05:19 cait         mib_484e9q: actually I am not quite sure :( could you try a ask a bit later when more people are awake?
05:19 cait         ok
05:19 mike_        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
05:18 cait         it's really a matter of how you installed it, when using packages it might be it's something like intra.whateveryourdomain is
05:18 cait         mike_:  how did you install koha?
05:18 mike_        I did... but the configuration file sets it to *:80  ... either way I've tried both... neither works
05:18 cait         the web installer would tell you that - you are really looking at the wrong page right now
05:18 mib_484e9q   should I just manually add the kohauser name and cron path to the zebra indexing line?
05:17 cait         try adding 8080 to your url
05:17 mike_        I checked the error log... and it's got thousands of failed db table calls... so it's not hooking up to the database at all I think...
05:17 cait         mike_: you are trying to acces the opac, not the intranet
05:17 wahanui      it has been said that standard install is what i use.   thats all i would know about from the git.
05:17 mib_484e9q   standard install
05:17 mike_        the web installer won't run... it's giving me this error
05:16 cait         mib_484e9q: I am not quite sure - did you select a standard or a dev install?
05:16 cait         mike_: did you already run the webinstaller?
05:16 mib_484e9q   why wouldn't they be replaced?
05:16 cait         what's wrong in your line is that the __things got not replaced
05:15 cait         s
05:15 cait         mib_484e9q: thee are different way
05:15 mike_        The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator
05:15 mike_        System maintenance
05:15 mike_        keep getting this weird error...
05:14 mike_        HELLO... NEED HELP ON A KOHA UBUNTU SERVER INSTALL...
05:14 mib_484e9q   I downloaded 3.10 from koha-community.org and followed the install instructions
05:13 cait         mib_484e9q: how did you install koha?
05:10 mib_484e9q   Is that wrong?
05:09 mib_484e9q   Right now my crontab line for Zebra indexing is: */10 * * * *  __KOHA_USER__  $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null
05:06 mib_484e9q   Can anyone tell me how to modify the Zebra indexing line from crontab.example in Koha 3.10 so it works?
05:05 mib_484e9q   so I'm learning how to set up koha but I'm having trouble setting up the crontab for Zebra indexing
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04:58 mtompset     Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone.
04:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates
04:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10074 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Encoding problems for login and installer
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Merge branch 'bug_6554' into 3.12-master"
04:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10019 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Encoding problem with utf8 chars in userid
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 6554 Fix error caused by modifying $_ in a map"
04:51 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9951 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Resolve encoding problems where script parameters are not decoded
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 10074 - Encoding problems at login time"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 10074 - Encoding problems for installer"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 10074: QA Followup for InstallAuth.pm"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 10019: Fix for userid containing UTF8 chars"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 9951: Followup for Tools"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 9951: Followup for tools/viewlog.pl"
04:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #14: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/14/
04:42 * cait       waves
04:42 * dcook      waves to cait
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10006 trivial, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , holding branch is not available to XSLT display
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9831 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Wrong and missing values in installer for French UNIMARC
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10045 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Suggestions refer to budgets, but should be funds
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10106 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Markup error causing misplacement of "reopen" checkbox on invoice edit screen
04:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #14 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:12 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 10006 - holding branch is not available to XSLT display
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8068 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , acq stats refers to budgets when it should be funds
04:12 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9831: Correct and add authorised values un French UNIMARC installer
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10045: Switch budget to fund in suggestions
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9766 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove YUI menu on budget planning page in favor of different column-hiding system
04:12 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10106 - Markup error causing misplacement of "reopen" checkbox on invoice edit screen
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8068: Standardize terms used on acquisitions statistics
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9818 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , "Overdue Fines Cap ($)" should not use $ (I18N)
04:12 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9766 - Remove YUI menu on budget planning page in favor of different column-hiding system
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9818: Fixing capitalization and remove dollar sign
04:12 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix Patron statistics link
04:12 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix patron routing lists link
04:12 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix patron files link
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Lists Help
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update holds help file
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Add missing tags help file
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Tags & Comments Help
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Catalogue help files
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Acq Help Files for 3.12
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9925 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused table-pager include
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Admin Help Files for 3.12
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Patron Help Files for 3.12
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Patron Card Help Files
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Label Help Files
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10050 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update German web installer files for 3.12
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Authority Help Files
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Stray Help Files
04:12 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9925 - Remove unused table-pager include
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Language settings
04:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10070 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , History of anonymous searches is not kept
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Optional
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Mandatory
04:12 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10070: Anonymous search history is not being set in the cookie
04:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1149: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1149/
03:57 wahanui      koha community is an amazing thing
03:57 shiva        koha community
03:57 shiva        hi good morning...
03:54 dcook        They could be better but they're still handy :D
03:53 dcook        mysql_xml_functions++
03:49 dcook        I love when that # bugs next to "Needs signoff" shrinks
03:48 dcook        Now I just need to up the sign-off number...
03:48 rangi        :)
03:48 dcook        Lizard-brain incentive to submit more patches :p
03:47 dcook        At 29, I want 30. At 30, I want 40.
03:46 dcook        I'm not really one for competition, but I like growing numbers ^_^
03:45 rangi        (click twice on first commit column)
03:45 rangi        sort by first commit descending
03:45 mtompset     This isn't a competition. This is a cooperation. Though, if competition gets more things fixed, so be it. ;)
03:45 dcook        Apparently you and I started on the same day O_o
03:45 rangi        http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html
03:45 dcook        When we first submitted patches
03:45 mtompset     when you submitted patches?
03:45 mtompset     2012er's?
03:44 dcook        mtompset, mveron, and myself are pretty neck and neck for 2012ers
03:25 rangi        night jcamins
03:25 jcamins      Good night, #koha.
03:25 * jcamins    goes to sleep now that the dishes are all washed.
03:20 rangi        acpl is the 3rd organisation
03:20 rangi        well 500 patches
03:20 rangi        will pass liblime :)
03:19 rangi        soon owen
03:19 jcamins      It's the little things...
03:19 rangi        cool
03:19 jcamins      (of mine)
03:19 jcamins      I just pushed 14 patches.
03:19 jcamins      Already passed.
03:18 rangi        pass joshua very soon
03:18 rangi        true
03:17 jcamins      I should be safe for a while at no. 5, too. Nos. 6-9 are no longer active.
03:12 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ranginui: "as of right now (quick before the release manager pushes another one) i have 3000 patches in #kohails"
03:10 jcamins      You should. :)
03:07 rangi        i should tweet that
03:07 rangi        3000 patches
03:07 rangi        oooh
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10006 trivial, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , holding branch is not available to XSLT display
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9831 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Wrong and missing values in installer for French UNIMARC
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10045 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Suggestions refer to budgets, but should be funds
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10106 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Markup error causing misplacement of "reopen" checkbox on invoice edit screen
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8068 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , acq stats refers to budgets when it should be funds
03:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #1149 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
03:04 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 10006 - holding branch is not available to XSLT display
03:04 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9831: Correct and add authorised values un French UNIMARC installer
03:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10045: Switch budget to fund in suggestions
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9766 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove YUI menu on budget planning page in favor of different column-hiding system
03:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10106 - Markup error causing misplacement of "reopen" checkbox on invoice edit screen
03:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8068: Standardize terms used on acquisitions statistics
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9818 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , "Overdue Fines Cap ($)" should not use $ (I18N)
03:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9766 - Remove YUI menu on budget planning page in favor of different column-hiding system
03:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9818: Fixing capitalization and remove dollar sign
03:04 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix Patron statistics link
03:04 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix patron routing lists link
03:04 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix patron files link
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Lists Help
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update holds help file
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Add missing tags help file
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Tags & Comments Help
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Catalogue help files
03:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Acq Help Files for 3.12
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Admin Help Files for 3.12
03:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9925 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused table-pager include
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Patron Help Files for 3.12
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Patron Card Help Files
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Label Help Files
03:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10050 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update German web installer files for 3.12
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Authority Help Files
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Stray Help Files
03:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10070 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , History of anonymous searches is not kept
03:03 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9925 - Remove unused table-pager include
03:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Language settings
03:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Optional
03:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Mandatory
03:03 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10070: Anonymous search history is not being set in the cookie
03:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #13: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/13/
02:55 jcamins      That was updated last night.
02:55 jcamins      dcook: no, I'm already 5th.
02:55 * dcook      heads to lunch
02:54 dcook        jcamins: Only 7 more before you get into 5th :o
02:53 dcook        Hmm, maybe my z39.50 authority thing will be my 30th...:p
02:49 jcamins      Unless I pushed some of yours tonight, in which case you have more.
02:49 jcamins      rangi: you have exactly 3000 patches on master.
02:46 dcook        Getting a runtime error on http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
02:46 dcook        Hey, rangi
02:44 jcamins      I just reverted them all from 3.12.x.
02:44 jcamins      rangi: head's up: do not cherrypick *any* encoding-related patches for 3.10.x or 3.8.x.
02:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #13 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:21 jcamins      Uncaught ReferenceError: MSG_IN_YOUR_CART is not defined
02:21 jcamins      The error is in basket.js.
02:21 jcamins      Oh, you're right.
02:20 tcohen       i cannot reproduce the whole-js-problem situation
02:20 * dcook      would welcome a review of basket.js
02:20 tcohen       its loading basket.js
02:20 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10006' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c98d65adf742ab0cadacd1ae0811a83d4d711c27> / Bug 10006 - holding branch is not available to XSLT display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0942cac72e8910b3ed6e557c42f6665060c14bd0> / Merge branch 'bug_9831' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1
02:09 jcamins      Well- I'll try to.
02:09 jcamins      I will add a note to the release notes saying that OpacBookbag cannot be disabled.
02:09 jcamins      It's not getting fixed before the release.
02:09 jcamins      Oh well.
02:08 jcamins      Yeah- bookbag.js.
02:08 tcohen       maybe some .js is not being loaded?
02:07 jcamins      There is no functioning javascript if I turn off OpacBookbag.
02:07 jcamins      With or without the patch.
02:07 jcamins      Disabling OpacBookbag entirely breaks Javascript on search results.
02:06 jcamins      No, I do.
02:06 tcohen       maybe you dont have virtualshelves enabled
02:06 jcamins      Before or after the patch.
02:06 jcamins      The dropdown does not show up for me.
02:06 jcamins      Ah.
02:06 tcohen       i click the list name
02:05 tcohen       yes
02:05 tcohen       you choose some items from the list, and pull the dropdown
02:05 jcamins      But what are you clicking to add the items to the list?
02:05 jcamins      Right.
02:05 tcohen       the bug is on the opac results page
02:04 jcamins      How are you trying to add the items?
02:04 jcamins      Oh, I know.
02:03 jcamins      Hmm.
02:02 tcohen       (ccsr theme, @home)
02:02 tcohen       i don't know jcamins, I've just reproduced it in current 3.12.x
02:00 jcamins      Okay, here it is.
01:59 jcamins      Where would I find the budget planning page?
01:57 jcamins      I could not reproduce the problem at all.
01:56 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
01:56 tcohen       jcamins, you couldn't reproduce bug 10107? or the patch didn't work?
01:44 jcamins      And several of the links are wrong.
01:42 jcamins      kc/master...HEAD
01:42 jcamins      git log -p kc/orgin..HEAD worked
01:41 jcamins      Right.
01:41 cjh          do you want each commit in the log to also have the diff contents below it?
01:41 jcamins      -p
01:41 cjh          I usually use git show for such things
01:40 jcamins      How do I get git log to show diffs?
01:38 cjh          it doesnt download the page but checks if it is there, you can use the return code ($? in shell) to see the results. Probably also want a -q to make it quiet.
01:38 jcamins      cjh: thanks.
01:37 cjh          jcamins: wget --spider address
01:36 jcamins      I want to confirm that the links in the help files are correct.
01:35 jcamins      Does anyone have any suggestions how to check that links are valid from the command line?
01:20 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @nengard: "@imarshut see here: http://t.co/x2RJ7k86FW #kohails"
01:12 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @nengard: "2 hours later I have finished reading/skimming 1000+ #kohails bug emails - I really have to keep up with those more regularly :)"
01:00 jcamins      Also, disabling opacbookbag just breaks the search results.
00:59 rangi        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metadata_Object_Description_Schema
00:59 rangi        35
00:59 rangi        i was close
00:58 rangi        )
00:58 rangi        (that second bit i may have made up_
00:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
00:58 jcamins      I can't recreate bug 10107.
00:58 rangi        as of 2013 4 people use it
00:58 jcamins      Hm.
00:58 rangi        MODS was first announced for trial use in June, 2002
00:58 rangi        like RDA will be
00:58 rangi        its a failed standard
00:57 mtompset     ^talk^take^
00:56 mtompset     I'll talk that as a round about yes. ;)
00:56 eythian      and MARC is 10-15 years older again
00:56 eythian      mtompset: z39.50 was a thing before TCP/IP was.
00:55 mtompset     So adoption of common standards is slow in library circles too then? ;)
00:53 jcamins      Not.
00:51 mtompset     But how internationally used is it?
00:50 jcamins      Not nearly as long.
00:50 mtompset     How long has MODS been around compared to MARC?
00:49 jcamins      It's better than MARC.
00:47 mtompset     Seeing as I'm not a library geek. What's "everyone's" opinion on MODS? I hadn't heard of it, until a facebook friend of mine mentioned it.