Time Nick Message
00:47 mtompset Seeing as I'm not a library geek. What's "everyone's" opinion on MODS? I hadn't heard of it, until a facebook friend of mine mentioned it.
00:49 jcamins It's better than MARC.
00:50 mtompset How long has MODS been around compared to MARC?
00:50 jcamins Not nearly as long.
00:51 mtompset But how internationally used is it?
00:53 jcamins Not.
00:55 mtompset So adoption of common standards is slow in library circles too then? ;)
00:56 eythian mtompset: z39.50 was a thing before TCP/IP was.
00:56 eythian and MARC is 10-15 years older again
00:56 mtompset I'll talk that as a round about yes. ;)
00:57 mtompset ^talk^take^
00:58 rangi its a failed standard
00:58 rangi like RDA will be
00:58 rangi MODS was first announced for trial use in June, 2002
00:58 jcamins Hm.
00:58 rangi as of 2013 4 people use it
00:58 jcamins I can't recreate bug 10107.
00:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
00:58 rangi (that second bit i may have made up_
00:58 rangi )
00:59 rangi i was close
00:59 rangi 35
00:59 rangi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metadata_Object_Description_Schema
01:00 jcamins Also, disabling opacbookbag just breaks the search results.
01:12 tweetbot [off] twitter: @nengard: "2 hours later I have finished reading/skimming 1000+ #kohails bug emails - I really have to keep up with those more regularly :)"
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01:35 jcamins Does anyone have any suggestions how to check that links are valid from the command line?
01:36 jcamins I want to confirm that the links in the help files are correct.
01:37 cjh jcamins: wget --spider address
01:38 jcamins cjh: thanks.
01:38 cjh it doesnt download the page but checks if it is there, you can use the return code ($? in shell) to see the results. Probably also want a -q to make it quiet.
01:40 jcamins How do I get git log to show diffs?
01:41 cjh I usually use git show for such things
01:41 jcamins -p
01:41 cjh do you want each commit in the log to also have the diff contents below it?
01:41 jcamins Right.
01:42 jcamins git log -p kc/orgin..HEAD worked
01:42 jcamins kc/master...HEAD
01:44 jcamins And several of the links are wrong.
01:56 tcohen jcamins, you couldn't reproduce bug 10107? or the patch didn't work?
01:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
01:57 jcamins I could not reproduce the problem at all.
01:59 jcamins Where would I find the budget planning page?
02:00 jcamins Okay, here it is.
02:02 tcohen i don't know jcamins, I've just reproduced it in current 3.12.x
02:02 tcohen (ccsr theme, @home)
02:03 jcamins Hmm.
02:04 jcamins Oh, I know.
02:04 jcamins How are you trying to add the items?
02:05 tcohen the bug is on the opac results page
02:05 jcamins Right.
02:05 jcamins But what are you clicking to add the items to the list?
02:05 tcohen you choose some items from the list, and pull the dropdown
02:05 tcohen yes
02:06 tcohen i click the list name
02:06 jcamins Ah.
02:06 jcamins The dropdown does not show up for me.
02:06 jcamins Before or after the patch.
02:06 tcohen maybe you dont have virtualshelves enabled
02:06 jcamins No, I do.
02:07 jcamins Disabling OpacBookbag entirely breaks Javascript on search results.
02:07 jcamins With or without the patch.
02:07 jcamins There is no functioning javascript if I turn off OpacBookbag.
02:08 tcohen maybe some .js is not being loaded?
02:08 jcamins Yeah- bookbag.js.
02:09 jcamins Oh well.
02:09 jcamins It's not getting fixed before the release.
02:09 jcamins I will add a note to the release notes saying that OpacBookbag cannot be disabled.
02:09 jcamins Well- I'll try to.
02:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10006' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c98d65adf742ab0cadacd1ae0811a83d4d711c27> / Bug 10006 - holding branch is not available to XSLT display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0942cac72e8910b3ed6e557c42f6665060c14bd0> / Merge branch 'bug_9831' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1
02:20 tcohen its loading basket.js
02:20 * dcook would welcome a review of basket.js
02:20 tcohen i cannot reproduce the whole-js-problem situation
02:21 jcamins Oh, you're right.
02:21 jcamins The error is in basket.js.
02:21 jcamins Uncaught ReferenceError: MSG_IN_YOUR_CART is not defined
02:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #13 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:44 jcamins rangi: head's up: do not cherrypick *any* encoding-related patches for 3.10.x or 3.8.x.
02:44 jcamins I just reverted them all from 3.12.x.
02:46 dcook Hey, rangi
02:46 dcook Getting a runtime error on http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
02:49 jcamins rangi: you have exactly 3000 patches on master.
02:49 jcamins Unless I pushed some of yours tonight, in which case you have more.
02:53 dcook Hmm, maybe my z39.50 authority thing will be my 30th...:p
02:54 dcook jcamins: Only 7 more before you get into 5th :o
02:55 * dcook heads to lunch
02:55 jcamins dcook: no, I'm already 5th.
02:55 jcamins That was updated last night.
03:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #13: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/13/
03:03 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10070: Anonymous search history is not being set in the cookie
03:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Mandatory
03:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Optional
03:03 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Language settings
03:03 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9925 - Remove unused table-pager include
03:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10070 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , History of anonymous searches is not kept
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Stray Help Files
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Authority Help Files
03:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10050 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update German web installer files for 3.12
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Label Help Files
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Patron Card Help Files
03:03 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Patron Help Files for 3.12
03:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9925 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused table-pager include
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Admin Help Files for 3.12
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Acq Help Files for 3.12
03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Catalogue help files
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Tags & Comments Help
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Add missing tags help file
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update holds help file
03:04 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Lists Help
03:04 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix patron files link
03:04 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix patron routing lists link
03:04 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix Patron statistics link
03:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9818: Fixing capitalization and remove dollar sign
03:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9766 - Remove YUI menu on budget planning page in favor of different column-hiding system
03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9818 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , "Overdue Fines Cap ($)" should not use $ (I18N)
03:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8068: Standardize terms used on acquisitions statistics
03:04 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10106 - Markup error causing misplacement of "reopen" checkbox on invoice edit screen
03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9766 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove YUI menu on budget planning page in favor of different column-hiding system
03:04 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10045: Switch budget to fund in suggestions
03:04 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9831: Correct and add authorised values un French UNIMARC installer
03:04 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 10006 - holding branch is not available to XSLT display
03:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #1149 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8068 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , acq stats refers to budgets when it should be funds
03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10106 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Markup error causing misplacement of "reopen" checkbox on invoice edit screen
03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10045 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Suggestions refer to budgets, but should be funds
03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9831 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Wrong and missing values in installer for French UNIMARC
03:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10006 trivial, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , holding branch is not available to XSLT display
03:07 rangi oooh
03:07 rangi 3000 patches
03:07 rangi i should tweet that
03:10 jcamins You should. :)
03:12 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ranginui: "as of right now (quick before the release manager pushes another one) i have 3000 patches in #kohails"
03:17 jcamins I should be safe for a while at no. 5, too. Nos. 6-9 are no longer active.
03:18 rangi true
03:18 rangi pass joshua very soon
03:19 jcamins Already passed.
03:19 jcamins I just pushed 14 patches.
03:19 jcamins (of mine)
03:19 rangi cool
03:19 jcamins It's the little things...
03:19 rangi soon owen
03:20 rangi will pass liblime :)
03:20 rangi well 500 patches
03:20 rangi acpl is the 3rd organisation
03:25 * jcamins goes to sleep now that the dishes are all washed.
03:25 jcamins Good night, #koha.
03:25 rangi night jcamins
03:44 dcook mtompset, mveron, and myself are pretty neck and neck for 2012ers
03:45 mtompset 2012er's?
03:45 mtompset when you submitted patches?
03:45 dcook When we first submitted patches
03:45 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html
03:45 dcook Apparently you and I started on the same day O_o
03:45 mtompset This isn't a competition. This is a cooperation. Though, if competition gets more things fixed, so be it. ;)
03:45 rangi sort by first commit descending
03:45 rangi (click twice on first commit column)
03:46 dcook I'm not really one for competition, but I like growing numbers ^_^
03:47 dcook At 29, I want 30. At 30, I want 40.
03:48 dcook Lizard-brain incentive to submit more patches :p
03:48 rangi :)
03:48 dcook Now I just need to up the sign-off number...
03:49 dcook I love when that # bugs next to "Needs signoff" shrinks
03:53 dcook mysql_xml_functions++
03:54 dcook They could be better but they're still handy :D
03:57 shiva hi good morning...
03:57 shiva koha community
03:57 wahanui koha community is an amazing thing
04:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1149: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1149/
04:12 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10070: Anonymous search history is not being set in the cookie
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Mandatory
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Optional
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10070 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , History of anonymous searches is not kept
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10050: Update German web installer files for 3.12 - Language settings
04:12 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9925 - Remove unused table-pager include
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Stray Help Files
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Authority Help Files
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10050 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update German web installer files for 3.12
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Label Help Files
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Patron Card Help Files
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Patron Help Files for 3.12
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Admin Help Files for 3.12
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9925 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused table-pager include
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Acq Help Files for 3.12
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Catalogue help files
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Tags & Comments Help
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Add missing tags help file
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update holds help file
04:12 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Lists Help
04:12 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix patron files link
04:12 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix patron routing lists link
04:12 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9850: Fix Patron statistics link
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9818: Fixing capitalization and remove dollar sign
04:12 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9766 - Remove YUI menu on budget planning page in favor of different column-hiding system
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9818 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , "Overdue Fines Cap ($)" should not use $ (I18N)
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8068: Standardize terms used on acquisitions statistics
04:12 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10106 - Markup error causing misplacement of "reopen" checkbox on invoice edit screen
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9766 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove YUI menu on budget planning page in favor of different column-hiding system
04:12 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10045: Switch budget to fund in suggestions
04:12 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9831: Correct and add authorised values un French UNIMARC installer
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8068 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , acq stats refers to budgets when it should be funds
04:12 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 10006 - holding branch is not available to XSLT display
04:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #14 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10106 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Markup error causing misplacement of "reopen" checkbox on invoice edit screen
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10045 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Suggestions refer to budgets, but should be funds
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9831 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Wrong and missing values in installer for French UNIMARC
04:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10006 trivial, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , holding branch is not available to XSLT display
04:42 * dcook waves to cait
04:42 * cait waves
04:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #14: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/14/
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 9951: Followup for tools/viewlog.pl"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 9951: Followup for Tools"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 10019: Fix for userid containing UTF8 chars"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 10074: QA Followup for InstallAuth.pm"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 10074 - Encoding problems for installer"
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 10074 - Encoding problems at login time"
04:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9951 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Resolve encoding problems where script parameters are not decoded
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Bug 6554 Fix error caused by modifying $_ in a map"
04:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10019 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Encoding problem with utf8 chars in userid
04:51 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Merge branch 'bug_6554' into 3.12-master"
04:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10074 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Encoding problems for login and installer
04:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates
04:58 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone.
05:04 alohabot Hi mib_484e9q, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
05:05 mib_484e9q so I'm learning how to set up koha but I'm having trouble setting up the crontab for Zebra indexing
05:06 mib_484e9q Can anyone tell me how to modify the Zebra indexing line from crontab.example in Koha 3.10 so it works?
05:09 mib_484e9q Right now my crontab line for Zebra indexing is: */10 * * * * __KOHA_USER__ $KOHA_CRON_PATH/../migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null
05:10 mib_484e9q Is that wrong?
05:13 cait mib_484e9q: how did you install koha?
05:14 mib_484e9q I downloaded 3.10 from koha-community.org and followed the install instructions
05:14 mike_ HELLO... NEED HELP ON A KOHA UBUNTU SERVER INSTALL...
05:15 mike_ keep getting this weird error...
05:15 mike_ System maintenance
05:15 mike_ The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator
05:15 cait mib_484e9q: thee are different way
05:15 cait s
05:16 cait what's wrong in your line is that the __things got not replaced
05:16 mib_484e9q why wouldn't they be replaced?
05:16 cait mike_: did you already run the webinstaller?
05:16 cait mib_484e9q: I am not quite sure - did you select a standard or a dev install?
05:17 mike_ the web installer won't run... it's giving me this error
05:17 mib_484e9q standard install
05:17 wahanui it has been said that standard install is what i use. thats all i would know about from the git.
05:17 cait mike_: you are trying to acces the opac, not the intranet
05:17 mike_ I checked the error log... and it's got thousands of failed db table calls... so it's not hooking up to the database at all I think...
05:17 cait try adding 8080 to your url
05:18 mib_484e9q should I just manually add the kohauser name and cron path to the zebra indexing line?
05:18 cait the web installer would tell you that - you are really looking at the wrong page right now
05:18 mike_ I did... but the configuration file sets it to *:80 ... either way I've tried both... neither works
05:18 cait mike_: how did you install koha?
05:18 cait it's really a matter of how you installed it, when using packages it might be it's something like intra.whateveryourdomain is
05:19 mike_ http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
05:19 cait ok
05:19 cait mib_484e9q: actually I am not quite sure :( could you try a ask a bit later when more people are awake?
05:19 mib_484e9q yeah, that's the problem - I'm in Asia lol
05:20 cait so late for you? I am about to leave for work
05:20 mib_484e9q I'll tune back during in the North American morning, thanks @cait
05:20 mike_ maybe... any idea if I can find the database code and build the database myself... if maybe THAT will get it running???
05:20 cait mike_: if you haven't changed anything - try intra.whatever
05:20 cait you have to try to figure out how to go to staff instead of opac
05:20 cait mike_: no
05:20 cait yo uhave to go to the intranetpage
05:21 mike_ ok
05:21 cait tricking the database won't help you because you have to access that
05:21 mib_484e9q mike_ for what its worth, I had to reinstall a few times until I got the hang of it
05:22 cait mike_: did you see the initial configuration heading on the wiki?
05:22 cait did you change the file mentioned there?
05:22 mike_ yeah... ??? uh... not sure... what are you talking about???
05:22 cait if not maybe your intranet url is yourdomain-intra - the example shows suffix
05:23 cait this file is used to set how you will access the intranet page
05:23 mike_ I can only pull it up using the ip addy
05:23 cait sometimes people use different ports, sometimes a url prefix, sometimes a url suffix
05:24 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Pre-Web_Install_Setup
05:24 mike_ what I'm using is... 192.168.0.6:80
05:24 cait that's the opac
05:24 cait you have to find out how to access the staff interface, maybe take a look at how the /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf looks for you
05:25 cait if 192.168.0.6:8080 doesn't work
05:25 mike_ ah ok...
05:25 mike_ yeah it's configured to use *:80 for the staff interface
05:27 mike_ oops found a typo onder intrasuffix... maybe this will help
05:28 mike_ I see... but INTRAPORT and OPACPORT are both set to 80 in that tutorial... is that right??
05:31 cait yeah it seems so
05:32 cait i normally not use the suffix/prefix but different ports
05:32 mike_ hmm... when I restart apache... I get some errors... default virtualHost overlap on port 80... NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6.80 has no virtual hosts...
05:32 cait maybe try removing your instance and creating a new one
05:32 cait using different ports
05:33 mike_ yeah I don't really need a prefix or suffix... just following the tutorial... what matters most is that I get a working machine by tomorrow...
05:34 mike_ um... how do you mean to remove the instance and create a new one???... just rm the koha-sites.conf and start over ???
05:38 cait maybe backup and edit instead of remove
05:38 cait $ sudo koha-create --create-db library this is to create a new instance
05:39 cait this to remove $ sudo koha-remove {instance}
05:41 mike_ ah ok... I'll try that
05:45 mike_ hmm... different error... NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
05:48 mike_ is the virtual host part set up in the koha-sites.conf ???
05:53 cait i think the apache file is generated when you create the instance with the cnfiugration given in that file
05:54 cait but i only have done 1-2 instaces so far, as I mostly use a dev environment
05:54 magnuse "NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts" should not be a big problem, i get that all the time
05:55 cait morning magnuse
05:55 magnuse have a look at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<instance> if you are in doubt about how things are set up
05:55 magnuse hiya cait
05:55 mike_ :) thanks... yeah looking at it right now
05:56 magnuse sorry, i gotta make breakfast, will be back in ~30
05:56 mike_ it responds on port 80 for the OPAC... but not to 8080 for the Intranet... ????
06:00 magnuse did you set "Listen 8080" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf? just a thought...
06:03 mike_ no the tutorial says to add the line "Listen 80" if it's not already there... but it is
06:06 magnuse paste?
06:06 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
06:06 magnuse mike_: could you paste the contents of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<instance> there?
06:07 mike_ sure hold on
06:17 mike_ mmm... ug... anyone know how to copy and paste from putty... ??? :)
06:20 mike_ # If you just change the port or add more ports here, you will likely also
06:20 mike_ # have to change the VirtualHost statement in
06:20 mike_ # /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
06:20 mike_ # This is also true if you have upgraded from before 2.2.9-3 (i.e. from
06:20 mike_ # Debian etch). See /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/NEWS.Debian.gz and
06:20 mike_ # README.Debian.gz
06:21 mike_ NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80
06:21 mike_ Listen 80
06:21 mike_ <IfModule mod_ssl.c>
06:21 mike_ # If you add NameVirtualHost *:443 here, you will also have to change
06:21 mike_ # the VirtualHost statement in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl
06:21 mike_ # to <VirtualHost *:443>
06:21 mike_ # Server Name Indication for SSL named virtual hosts is currently not
06:21 mike_ # supported by MSIE on Windows XP.
06:21 mike_ Listen 443
06:21 mike_ </IfModule>
06:21 mike_ <IfModule mod_gnutls.c>
06:21 mike_ Listen 443
06:21 mike_ </IfModule>
06:22 cait mike: try using paste.koha-community.org
06:22 magnuse mike_: better if you paste on http://paste.koha-community.org, then paste the resulting url here
06:22 magnuse that does not look a koha apache config
06:22 magnuse are there other files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ ?
06:26 mike_ http://paste.koha-community.org/480
06:28 cait hm
06:28 cait and i guess yo tried library-intra.tomoffinlandfoundation.org?
06:29 mike_ yeah... I can only get to the server using the ip addy...
06:30 mike_ tonight I"m working on this in my house... but tomorrow it's supposed to be delivered to the organization... so I figured working with the IP would be fine for tonight...
06:32 cait have to go
06:32 cait bbl
06:33 alex_a bonjour
06:34 mike_ thanks for your help cait :):):)
06:35 mike_ magnuse... yeah... only file in sites-enabled is a link called... library
06:44 mike_ magnuse: http://paste.koha-community.org/481
06:47 mike_ magnuse: http://paste.koha-community.org/482
06:49 * magnuse finnishes breakfast
06:50 magnuse mike_: your intranet should be available at library-intra.tomoffinlandfoundation.org:8080
06:50 magnuse have you set that up in dns?
06:50 magnuse and have you added "Listen 8080" anywhere?
06:51 reiveune hello
06:51 wahanui hola, reiveune
06:52 mike_ no to both... I was following this install tutorial... when I got stuck and was unable to get the web interface... haven't got that far I think... ???
06:52 magnuse you can see the opac, is that it?
06:53 mike_ magnuse: however when I type 192.168.0.6:80 I get the message: The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon!
06:54 magnuse yeah, that is the opac and you get that message because you have not run the web installer yet
06:54 mike_ magnuse: but when I type http://192.168.0.6:8080/ I get: Not Found
06:54 mike_ The requested URL / was not found on this server.
06:54 mike_ Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at 192.168.0.6 Port 8080
06:56 mike_ magnuse: earlier I modified the /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and changed INTRAPORT to 8080... though.. still no effect though... but not entirely sure that's the right place to do it... ?????
06:57 magnuse no, changing that will only affect new instances, not ones that have already been created
06:58 magnuse try adding "Listen 8080" to /etc/apache2/ports.conf
06:58 magnuse below where it says "Listen 80"
06:58 huginn GERMS!!!!
06:58 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
06:58 mike_ ah ok... should I put it back??? I was confused because in the tutorial... both INTRAPORT and OPACPORT both = "80"
06:58 magnuse then restart apache with "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
06:59 mike_ ok
06:59 mike_ ok
06:59 drojf good morning #koha
07:00 magnuse mike_: you could change <VirtualHost *:8080> to <VirtualHost *:80> in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/<instance>, but then you definitely need dns set up for it to work
07:00 magnuse i suspect you need it for the setup you have now to work too, though
07:03 mike_ magnuse: ok different error: * Restarting web server apache2 [Thu Apr 25 23:58:29 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:03 mike_ ... waiting [Thu Apr 25 23:58:30 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:03 mike_
07:04 magnuse yeah, i get that all the time, should be harmless
07:05 mike_ ah ok good to know
07:05 mike_ ok restarted apache... but still no change
07:06 mike_ longer error now actually...
07:06 mike_ * Restarting web server apache2 [Fri Apr 26 00:00:56 2013] [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence
07:06 mike_ [Fri Apr 26 00:00:56 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:06 mike_ ... waiting [Fri Apr 26 00:00:57 2013] [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 80, the first has precedence
07:06 mike_ [Fri Apr 26 00:00:57 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:06 asaurat hi
07:06 wahanui hola, asaurat
07:07 magnuse mike_: "_default_ VirtualHost" looks weird
07:07 mike_ magnuse: where??
07:08 mike_ and how to fix???
07:08 magnuse mike_: is there anything about VirtualHost in /etc/apache2/ports.conf ?
07:08 magnuse it says so in a couple of the errors
07:08 magnuse and yeah, how to fix is the big question ;-)
07:09 paul_p 'morning #koha
07:09 magnuse bonjour paul_p
07:10 drojf morning paul_p
07:10 kf morning paul_p
07:10 drojf mike_ magnuse is the default apache site still running?
07:11 mike_ magnuse: hum... NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80 that's all though...
07:12 mike_ drojf... no I shut it down already
07:12 drojf ok
07:13 mike_ drojf: sudo a2dissite 000-default
07:13 mike_ Site default already disabled
07:13 drojf yeah that's not it
07:13 magnuse i think maybe you need a "NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:8080" too
07:15 mike_ magnuse... in /etc/apache2/ports.conf ??? in addition to the NameVirtualHost 192.168.0.6:80
07:16 mike_ I think originally this file had NameVirtualHost *:80
07:16 mike_ Listen 80
07:16 christophe_c hello #koha
07:17 mike_ you think the * to listen to all incoming requests... and the addition of "Listen 8080" might work better.. ??
07:17 mike_ gonna try it...
07:18 magnuse let me check my production server...
07:18 drojf if you are not using dns you need to have two ports
07:18 kf me thinks drojf is right about taht
07:18 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "from /etc/apache2/ports.conf" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/483
07:19 drojf add listen 8080 and make sure that the sites-available/yourinstancename has the same port for intranet
07:19 drojf (if you changed things there)
07:19 mike_ yeah not using DNS right now... I think I will need to though... but not exactly sure on how to make that work...
07:19 magnuse drojf: here is mike_'s apache config: http://paste.koha-community.org/481
07:20 drojf that looks pretty standard. so adding "Listen 8080" to ports.conf and restarting apache might just work
07:21 drojf it will definitely not work without that :)
07:22 mike_ hmm... still 404... ???
07:22 wahanui 404 is better for opac
07:24 drojf disclaimer: i have not read back in the logs what other things you talked about so maybe i missed something relevant
07:24 drojf lol wahanui
07:24 drojf wahanui: forget 404
07:24 wahanui drojf: I forgot 404
07:24 magnuse wahanui: 404 is not found
07:24 wahanui OK, magnuse.
07:24 magnuse 404?
07:24 wahanui well, 404 is not found
07:25 magnuse as long as you have "ServerName library-intra.tomoffinlandfoundation.org" i think you need to have dns set up
07:25 drojf mike_: there was something about you changing 8080 to 80 in the sites-available/library?
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07:26 drojf magnuse: oh, i did not see that! i thought this was a non-dns thing
07:26 magnuse it *might* work if you change that to "ServerName 192.168.0.6:8080" but i'm not sure
07:27 mike_ I tried doing the ip directly magnuse... so far no difference...
07:28 mike_ drojf... I'll have to go check again... my brain's starting to get scrambled... I've been changing this every way I can think of in the last few hours... hahaha... ;) brb
07:30 mike_ drojf: ... oh yeah... ok.. yeah... both OPAC and Intranet were set to use *:80 ... so I tried to set Intranet to *:8080... made no difference though...
07:30 mike_ is Intranet SUPPOSED to be set to 8080... ???
07:30 drojf mike_: maybe you should start with a new instance. without the dns config. it works almost out of the box, you just add the Listen 8080 to ports.conf (you already have that)
07:30 drojf mike_: yes, that is the standard if you don't use dns
07:31 gaetan_B hello
07:31 wahanui que tal, gaetan_B
07:31 mike_ kinda makes sense... but I'm kinda confused why some of these files have both set to *:80... unless that is just a preliminary default... ???
07:31 drojf some of these files?
07:31 drojf which files?
07:31 wahanui which files are needed from the custom jQueryUI zip?
07:31 drojf wahanui: forget which files
07:31 wahanui drojf: I forgot which files
07:32 drojf mike_: what i would do is: delete the instance you have now. delete /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf. create a new instance. done (maybe)
07:33 mike_ did that earlier... but I'll gladly try it again in the hopes of moving forward... :)
07:33 drojf did you delete /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf ?
07:33 mike_ no
07:33 drojf that is where the ports/dns stuff is inside. you don't want that for now
07:33 mike_ ?...
07:33 drojf try an installation without it
07:33 mike_ ok
07:33 drojf then you get defaults
07:33 mike_ sweet... ok I'll give that a try
07:34 mike_ so ... rm /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
07:34 drojf yes. that is the file you edited in the beginning, right?
07:35 mike_ then... sudo kohana-remove library
07:35 drojf koha-remove :)
07:35 mike_ haha... oops... thanks... it's late here I'm starting to get blury eyed...
07:36 drojf :)
07:36 mike_ then koha-list to make sure no instances
07:36 kf hi gaetan_B
07:37 mike_ then sudo koha-create --create-db library to start fresh???
07:37 drojf not sure what it thinks about creating the db if it is already there but i would try that
07:39 crontabnuB anybody awake?
07:40 mike_ drojf:... ok did the rm... and the koha-remove... but then got some errors...
07:40 mike_ does this look right????
07:40 mike_ Removing Koha instance library
07:40 mike_ Stopping Zebra server for library
07:40 mike_ removing dangling symlink /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library
07:40 mike_ * Restarting web server apache2 [Fri Apr 26 00:35:23 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8080 has no VirtualHosts
07:40 mike_ [Fri Apr 26 00:35:23 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:40 mike_ ... waiting [Fri Apr 26 00:35:24 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8080 has no VirtualHosts
07:40 mike_ [Fri Apr 26 00:35:24 2013] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
07:42 crontabnuB crontab not working, kohauser mail says "/bin/sh: koha: not found"
07:42 drojf hm that looks like two things are running. what do you get when you open :8080 in the browser
07:43 crontabnuB line is */10 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null
07:43 mike_ drojf: YAY!!!! OMFG!!! IT FINALLY WORKED!!! :)
07:43 drojf :)
07:44 mike_ I have no idea why though... ???
07:44 magnuse drojf++
07:44 drojf because the dns stuff was fishy, i guess. the problem is, you probably want to use that in production. but you have an instance to play with for now
07:45 mike_ yeah... (passes the ball to drojf for the touch down!) ... :)
07:45 drojf :)
07:45 mike_ ug... yes this is supposed to be a production machine I'm delivering tomorrow afternoon...
07:45 crontabnuB anybody handy with rebuild_zebra.pl and crontab?
07:45 drojf OH!
07:45 mike_ oh the koha headaches I've been having... hahaha
07:46 drojf i never did the dns part. it's more an apache config problem than a koha thing i guess
07:46 drojf maybe there is an example on the wiki?
07:47 drojf or even _in_ the wiki
07:47 mike_ hmm.... well I guess that at least narrows things down... and I've got a sysadmin friend who might be able to help me figure out the DNS part...
07:48 mike_ yeah... wondering if that tutorial needs to be updated... I've been following it to the letter and getting lost...
07:49 magnuse i think the wiki could use some examples of settings in /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and the urls they result in
07:49 magnuse plus that trick about the defaults if you don't set up /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
07:49 * magnuse didn't know that
07:50 drojf magnuse: i discovered that when i prepared my workshops, i didn't know that either. it made my life so much easier
07:50 drojf because i never need dns and always fiddled with that file
07:51 kf drojf: that is what you told me to do too right? :) you shoudl write it down somewhere! :)
07:51 drojf kf: ah yes i remember :)
07:51 magnuse yeah, put it on the wiki! ;-)
07:51 drojf i did, into my own wiki :P but yes, that should probably be in the koha wiki
07:51 mike_ hmmm... well now the weblogin works... but the username and login that I set up earlier seem not to be getting me logged in... ??? is that possible???
07:52 magnuse what would be a good name? "Sample configurations for the Debian packages"?
07:52 kf mike_: hm with packages you don't set up the password I think
07:52 mike_ is the admin password dynamically generated??? should I try to see if I have a new password now that it installed from defaults???
07:52 magnuse mike_: you use the same login that you set up for mysql?
07:52 kf it generates one - you can find it in the koha-conf.xml file
07:52 drojf mike_: where did you set them up? you find the database login stuff in /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
07:53 * kf backs out
07:53 kf will leave that to the experts :)
07:53 magnuse yeah, look in /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
07:53 mike_ ok
07:56 crontabnuB zebra index crontab not working, any help appreciated
07:56 mike_ ah ok... looks like it generated a new unique password... sweet.. ok looks like everythings back on track now... :)
07:57 mike_ ok I'm gonna get finished setting this up....
07:58 mike_ innumerable thanks to you both... magnuse and drojf... (slides a nice tall drink down your way) ;)
07:59 drojf heh. glad it worked ;)
07:59 kf :)
07:59 kf drojf++ magnuse++
08:00 magnuse drojf++ for fixing it - i was groping in the dark
08:01 drojf yay, i'm useful
08:01 magnuse you are!
08:01 magnuse drojf: you can take the rest of the day off now ;-)
08:01 drojf LOL
08:02 mike_ hahaha.... well it's 1 am here and I have vodka cran if anyone wants to help me figure out how to send it on irc... hahaha ;) :D (cheers)
08:06 drojf unfortunately it's 10am here so i'll have that drink later ;)
08:06 kf same here...
08:09 magnuse and here...
08:10 crontabnuB kf drojf magnuse mike_ no tips on fixing zebra_rebuild.pl call in crontab?
08:11 magnuse crontabnuB: how did you install? packages, tarball, git?
08:11 mike_ hehehe... ok... I HAVE been working o a way to send a nice alcohol buzz remotely... not ready yet... but when it is... I'll put you both on the top of the list... hahaha... so if you happen to be walking down the street in the next month.. and suddenly get a nice buzz going... ;) you can credit/blame me... hahahaha... ;) <3
08:11 magnuse lol
08:12 mike_ crontabnuB: sorry I'm a complete newb with koha...
08:15 drojf i added it to the wiki, does that look ok? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze#Initial_Configuration
08:17 kf maybe say where to continue if not creating the file?
08:17 kf do I still have to do the a2enmod rewrite?
08:17 kf or move the bold part under the example
08:17 drojf skip creating the file, do what is next. i thought it was obvious :)
08:18 drojf apparently it is not :)
08:20 drojf hm but i don't see the difference between having it before the example or after. just that people that don't read all first will try to create the file and then read that they don't have to?
08:23 magnuse drojf: looks good to me the way it is, but if kf objects we better listen :-)
08:23 drojf i'll leave it for now. patches welcome :P
08:24 kf :P
08:24 kf I didn't object...
08:25 kf actually I agree it's good
08:25 kf drojf++
08:26 drojf what a karmic morning :)
08:26 magnuse hehe
09:53 tweetbot [off] twitter: @anitsirk: "Created second #kohails patch with the awesome help of @ranginui because it involved a DB upgrade. How can you reflect that in commit count?"
11:57 jcamins Joubu: don't forget to sign off patches before attaching them when QAing.
11:58 kf hi jcamins
12:00 Joubu jcamins: oops, which one?
12:05 jcamins Joubu: there have been two recently. When you've attached a patch without your signoff I've just been adding it.
12:05 francharb alex_a, ici faut parler en anglais
12:05 francharb hi all
12:05 kf hi francharb
12:05 kf :)
12:06 kf hi Joubu too! :)
12:06 francharb hi kf
12:07 kf Joubu++ :)
12:07 alex_a :D
12:07 Joubu jcamins: arf yes, this morning :-/
12:07 Joubu hello kf :)
12:07 kf thx for 10044 :)
12:18 jcamins Well, this is new.
12:18 jcamins Anyone seen this before: http://screencast.com/t/pNwTA91GU
12:19 jcamins Could someone please check on latest master whether that happens to you?
12:20 kf oh ouch
12:20 kf have you checked the frameowrk for this record?
12:20 jcamins Good idea.
12:20 kf I have seen wird things happening when the 952 was messed up
12:20 jcamins I have.
12:20 jcamins The framework is gone.
12:20 jcamins Mystery solved.
12:20 kf that's not good
12:20 * kf hands jcamins a pizza cookie
12:21 kf no idea what that is.. but seems fitting for friday
12:21 jcamins Pizza cookie?
12:21 kf you can inventone :)
12:21 jcamins Hehe.
12:29 jcamins How does anyone manage to run an acquisitions department?
12:29 kf I would have to refer that question to the 2 libraries we got that use acq
12:29 oleonard Acquisitions makes me grumpy too jcamins, but I always assume I just don't understand how it works.
12:29 jcamins oleonard: no, I think it's just that bad.
12:30 jcamins oleonard: I think I may have found a bug in the new acquisitions interface.
12:30 jcamins The edit button on aqbudgets.pl (i.e. the page for editing "Funds"... talk about poor naming) is all about budgets.
12:31 jcamins I don't think I'm pushing bug 2774 this morning.
12:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2774 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Path to theme is hard-coded in many places
12:32 jcamins It's already 8:30.
12:32 * jcamins moves on to the next patch.
12:32 kf too big?
12:32 kf to test?
12:32 jcamins Yup.
12:33 kf what are you looking at now?
12:34 jcamins Bug 10073.
12:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10073 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Passed QA , Show ccode or location also if not bound to Authorized Values in XSLT
12:34 kf ah right
12:34 jcamins Oh, no I'm not.
12:34 jcamins Actually, I'm done for the day.
12:34 kf ah meeting?
12:35 jcamins No, the merge conflict in 10073 caused my web browser to cache a bad gateway response.
12:36 kf k?
12:36 wahanui it has been said that k is there no other way to access it from another web browser
12:36 oleonard I have no idea what Bug 10125 is about. How does COinS use star images?
12:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10125 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , COinS star image must use sprite
12:36 jcamins No idea.
12:36 jcamins I don't think it does.
12:36 jcamins I don't think COinS uses images at all.
12:37 kf he might confuse thta somehow?
12:37 kf looks more like the star rating to me
12:37 jcamins Yeah, that would make sense.
12:37 jcamins Though I think that star ratings is already using sprites.
12:38 kf hm ccsr?
12:38 wahanui hmmm... ccsr is not behaving
12:38 jcamins Maybe.
12:40 oleonard wahanui++
12:40 oleonard Yeah star ratings use the sprite, and it works in prog
12:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9219' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=03b4dfe846047f233d7de84d8987f6622ee24129> / Bug 9219 - Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6385cfd1dc6c0dbceed0064c35f6f86f86e22be2> / Merge branch 'bug_9659' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
12:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #15 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:41 oleonard Works in ccsr too
12:43 oleonard Looks like it's a Babeltheque thing
12:45 jcamins Ah.
12:46 jcamins Awesome.
12:46 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins
12:46 jcamins The latest LibreOffice can't print avery labels.
12:48 oleonard jcamins: I don't think the issue you see with the toolbar on aqbudgets.pl was introduced by my update
12:48 jcamins oleonard: that's quite possible.
12:48 jcamins Since the entire module is unusable, I would hardly be surprised if someone put the wrong things on the toolbar at the offset.
12:49 oleonard I think it's time for an emergency Acquisitions hackfest in Marseille. To the airport!
12:51 oleonard Oooh, or an emergency Acquisitions hackfest in Konstanz!
12:52 libsysguy semi-relivant: http://people.gnome.org/~michael/data/2013-02-03-re-factoring.pdf
12:54 * druthb chucks Skittles at libsysguy.
12:54 * libsysguy ducks
12:57 tcohen anyone around with time to do a fresh install from master? (an apache setup)
13:03 oleonard http://zivotdesign.com/zp/albums/Koha/development/babeltheque-and-koha-star-ratings.png
13:04 jcamins Possibly not ideal.
13:04 oleonard Easy enough to convert the Babeltheque display to match the local star ratings, but then it's even more confusing
13:05 jcamins I guess if you use one you don't want to use the other?
13:05 oleonard Yeah that's what we always said about book cover image sources :P
13:07 jcamins lol
13:08 kf oleonard: I am all for that :)
13:08 kf oleonard: what about bringing the family for vacation at the lake... ?
13:09 oleonard I thought I would make the family do acquisitions usability testing all day long ;)
13:10 kf lol
13:10 kf maybe with the right... incentive?
13:11 kf you can aks eythian - it's quite nice here in summer
13:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #15: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/15/
13:18 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10115 - Hiding advanced search in Orders search tab removes plus button
13:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10107 - opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
13:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9659 - Better handling of non-existent authorised value categories used in SQL reports
13:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10115 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hiding advanced search in Orders search tab removes plus button
13:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9659 - QA Follow up: Unit tests
13:18 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9659: Move new unit test to db-dependent directory
13:18 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9219 - Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are on moremember.pl
13:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
13:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports
13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9219 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are on moremember.pl
13:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #1150 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:28 oleonard Oh, I get it...
13:28 oleonard The babeltheque stuff only shows if C4::Context->preference('COinSinOPACResults') is set
13:29 oleonard So Babeltheque falls under the broader heading of services which run over COinS / OpenURL / Z39.88?
13:30 oleonard ...of which Babeltheque is the only example at this time?
13:30 jcamins I guess.
13:30 jcamins I always thought the point of COinS was to enable client software to make use of it.
13:33 gaetan_B oleonard: hmm this is weird, i don't think COinS has anything to do with babelthèque, let me ask my colleagues about this...
13:33 oleonard gaetan_B: It doesn't look like it does based on what I see in opac-search.pl
13:33 gaetan_B i would also be extremely surprised
13:34 gaetan_B i really wonder why babelthèque should only work if this syspref is on...
13:34 oleonard See lines 581+ of opac-search.pl
13:34 oleonard The call to GetCOinSBiblio looks like it doesn't have any purpose
13:40 gaetan_B oleonard: ok, Joubu agrees this doesn't seem to have any purpose
13:40 gaetan_B i have no idea how it got in there
13:41 Joubu oleonard: yep, I confirm, it's not the expected behavior...
13:41 oleonard I wonder if COinSinOPACResults defaults to being on in new installations?
13:46 oleonard opac-search.pl has 6 separate variations of foreach (@newresults). Isn't that... inefficient?
14:00 oleonard So yes, COinSinOPACResults defaults to ON even though, "NOTE: this can slow down search response time significantly"
14:00 oleonard I guess it probably doesn't actually slow anything down if nothing is really using it
14:04 Joubu oleonard: did you open a report for that?
14:05 Joubu I have a patch. The idea is to group all loops into just one.
14:06 oleonard No I didn't
14:06 oleonard I have a fix for Bug 10125, but I'll probably need to make it dependent on yours
14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10125 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Babeltheque star image must use sprite
14:13 tcohen jcamins, how will we celebrate the birth of 3.12? Pizza?
14:13 kf oleonard: hm coudl we make the fields in branches longer?
14:14 kf [off] Zentrum für Wissensmanagement doesn't fit in :)
14:14 kf talking about the display :)
14:14 oleonard kf: Where? admin/branches.pl?
14:15 kf yep
14:16 oleonard I hereby grant you permission.
14:19 jcamins tcohen: probably cookies.
14:19 oleonard cookies?
14:19 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
14:19 oleonard You bet they are wahanui
14:19 jcamins khall: moving on to signing off on patches for 3.14? :)
14:20 khall indeed! I'd really like to start trying my hand at QA, but I can't get the dang script to work right!
14:20 jcamins oleonard: to celebrate.
14:21 magnuse did someone mention pizza?
14:21 tcohen i did magnuse
14:22 magnuse w00t!
14:22 tcohen pizza and fernet+coke here
14:22 Joubu oleonard: done (bug 10129). I don't think the image path issue is dependent on my patch.
14:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10129 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Babeltheque does not depend on COinSinOPACResults
14:22 tcohen (for celebrating the 3.12 release)
14:22 jcamins Are we out of bugs for 3.12 in the NSO queue?
14:22 magnuse pizza and um, water here later
14:22 oleonard Thanks Joubu
14:23 khall jcamins: looks that way
14:23 khall http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?list_id=60447&query_format=advanced&bug_status=Needs%20Signoff&version=3.12
14:24 jcamins Cool!
14:24 jcamins Bugs marked for master are often for 3.12 as well, too.
14:25 Joubu jcamins: did you see my patches for bug 10070? Should I open a new report? Switch back the status to need SO?
14:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10070 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , History of anonymous searches is not kept
14:26 jcamins Joubu: if you set the status to PQA, I'll push it next time I'm pushing things.
14:26 magnuse someone with spare time could maybe have a look at the failed qa stuff - see if there are any that should be rescued in time for 3.12
14:27 Joubu jcamins: probably it's better someone tests them, so back to NSO
14:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1150: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1150/
14:27 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10115 - Hiding advanced search in Orders search tab removes plus button
14:27 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10107 - opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
14:27 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9659 - Better handling of non-existent authorised value categories used in SQL reports
14:27 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9659 - QA Follow up: Unit tests
14:27 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9659: Move new unit test to db-dependent directory
14:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10115 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hiding advanced search in Orders search tab removes plus button
14:27 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9219 - Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are on moremember.pl
14:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
14:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports
14:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9219 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Show damaged and lost statuses for issues on circulation.pl as they are on moremember.pl
14:28 oleonard I count 32 non-enhancement patches needing signoff, but I don't know which of those are 3.14
14:31 * magnuse would think most of them are eligible for 3.12
14:31 kf oleonard: all bugs really can still go in
14:31 kf depending on how fast we sign off and qa
14:33 * magnuse discovers to NORMARC bugs that were marked as ENH: bug 7054 and bug 7055 - both would be good to have in 3.12
14:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7054 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , NORMARC: wrong default for 000 position 17
14:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7055 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , NORMARC: Links and defaults for 008 position 15-17 and 35-37
14:33 kf I will only qa bugs for now
14:33 kf until the release is out
14:33 magnuse kf++
14:33 kf every dead bug is a good bug ;)
14:33 kf oleonard: oooh that means I have to send the patch myself? :P
14:34 tcohen kf, there's a big problem with a patch I sent a while ago, which hit 3.8 through master
14:34 kf uhoh
14:34 kf tcohen: which one is it?
14:35 tcohen bug 9812
14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9812 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Several files shouldn't be exposed or browseable through a URL
14:35 tcohen it needs to be fixed for the 3.12 release
14:35 kf tcohen: can you provide a patch or should it be pulled out?
14:36 kf and do you know if it's already in the new 3.8.x release?
14:36 tcohen i think it is, yes
14:36 kf tcohen: maybe do a separate bug report, and link it
14:36 kf and if it's bad - mark it blocker
14:36 tcohen ok
14:37 tcohen breaks value_builder scripts reading the corresponding xml
14:37 kf hm that sounds bad
14:37 tcohen i'm doing a fresh install of all versions to test for the bug and the workaround
14:37 kf unhappy catalogers are no fun
14:37 kf tcohen++ :)
14:37 tcohen :(
14:39 kf tcohen: only when yousend no patches at all you will never break something
14:39 tcohen thx
14:40 magnuse ooh, someone save that as a quote?
14:40 kf i could... but is it weird to save your own quotes?
14:40 kf it feels so
14:40 kf @quote add only when yousend no patches at all you will never break something
14:40 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. Quote #243 added.
14:41 drojf apparently it felt bad to correct spelling too :P
14:41 kf drojf: hmpf
14:41 drojf :)
14:41 drojf cookie? :)
14:42 * kf pouts
14:42 magnuse tee hee
14:42 drojf more cookies for me then
14:42 magnuse kf++
14:44 kf hm
14:44 kf something with the pref search is not right
14:44 kf can someone try a search for "black" in the systempreferences search on master for me?
14:44 oleonard NotesBlacklist ?
14:44 kf yep
14:44 kf but I can't find it
14:44 kf notes does not work
14:44 kf and black does not work
14:44 kf it seems truncated search is broken?
14:45 oleonard it worked for me with "black"
14:45 kf oh, and when you search for *black* the search explodes
14:45 kf Quantifier follows nothing in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/* <-- HERE black*/ at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/preferences.pl line 255
14:45 oleonard Yeah I get that too
14:45 kf oleonard: it works only in english for me
14:45 kf ... I have an idea
14:46 magnuse hasn't syspref search always been automatically right and left truncated?
14:46 kf drojf: you know my problem... reinstalling templates is in order
14:47 drojf :)
14:47 drojf but the *black* problem is in english too
14:48 * magnuse never tried * in the syspref search before
14:49 * drojf neither
14:49 drojf but it's fun ;)
14:50 magnuse it is!
14:50 magnuse possibly addictive
14:50 drojf highly addictive!
14:52 drojf magnuse: regarding the normarc bugs, is it possible that NORMARC is the most crazy flavour of MARC? :P
14:52 maximep do I understand correctly that 3.12 is frozen ? Bugs like bug 9394 and bug 7710 will have to wait for 3.14, right ?
14:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9394 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Use reserve_id where possible
14:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , multiple holds per title
14:52 magnuse drojf: possibly, but i wouldn't bet on it
14:53 oleonard maximep: Feature frozen, so yes they will have to wait.
14:53 magnuse maximep: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roadmap_to_3.12
14:53 maximep ok that's what I tought. Thanks
14:53 magnuse no new features will be considered, but bugfixes are very welcome :-)
14:53 oleonard And patch signoffs!
14:55 magnuse yeah, definitely!
14:56 magnuse hm, guess we should have had a bug squashing day round about now...
14:56 maximep we need those 2 patches, so I will probably try to do my first signoff if I can =)
14:56 oleonard It would be better to sign off on something that can make it into 3.12 maximep
14:56 magnuse if they are enhancements they will not make it into 3.12 even if they are signed off...
14:57 maximep I know
14:57 magnuse wow, it seems like bug #10000 was yesterday, and now we have 10130
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip
14:58 oleonard I would like to think it's not that Koha has more bugs, but that we're better at finding them. :|
14:58 kf oleonard: totally :)
14:58 kf so who can reproduce the black problem?
14:58 * magnuse thinks so too
14:59 magnuse kf: searching for "black" works for me in master
14:59 kf ok, works now for me too
14:59 kf should I file a bug for the horror of using *?
14:59 magnuse um, yay!
14:59 magnuse i'd say no
14:59 drojf maximep: if you need the enhancements you could build your own packages with the version you want to use plus your patches until they are in koha
14:59 magnuse does it say anywhere you can use *?
15:00 kf well... it shoud still not eplode into a perl error... ever, should it? :)
15:00 kf maximep: generally signing off is good if you want others to sign off on your patches
15:00 maximep drojf: haha I think you don't know who I work for :P. We have about 150 git branches that we apply to koha =)
15:00 kf maximep: ideally there would be some kind of balance
15:00 maximep kf: yeah, I know all that
15:00 maximep hard to explain it the the client
15:00 drojf maximep: :D
15:01 kf maximep: add time for integrating into koha communtiy :)
15:01 kf yeah i know not easy
15:01 kf oleonard: it's me you can blame, because I file lots of silly bugs for little oddities :)
15:02 magnuse there are no silly bugs!
15:02 magnuse well, maybe except this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giraffe_weevil
15:02 drojf koha bugs usually are very intelligent
15:02 magnuse hehe
15:03 kf lol
15:03 drojf omg that is… i have no words :D
15:05 drojf that one looks quite majestic though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Male_NZ_giraffe_beetle_Lasiorhyncus_barbicornus_15_January_2011_001_Jamie_Anderson.JPG
15:06 Joubu have a good week end #koha! bye
15:06 kf bye Joubu :)
15:06 alex_a bye Joubu
15:07 tcohen question: value builder scripts are called directly as command line scripts? and rely on their output to stdout?
15:08 magnuse drojf: awesome!
15:08 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
15:08 magnuse oops
15:08 * magnuse didn't know we had one
15:08 drojf lol
15:08 tcohen kf, i'd pull that commit from the repo
15:09 * kf wonders if marcorgcode shoudl not be branch level instead of global
15:10 drojf we have marcorgcode as a syspref?
15:11 kf yeah, but what if you have different branches with different orgcodes? :)
15:11 drojf oh, i did not know we have that! and yes, you are right
15:12 kf well... I have now
15:12 drojf there may be libraries that have several branches with one code, but they can just put the same in there then
15:12 kf could be optional
15:12 kf I will file an enh as a note to myself
15:25 kf hmm
15:25 kf can someone confirm a syspref search for language doesn't find DefaultLanguageField008?
15:25 oleonard Works for me kf
15:26 rambutan @seen nate
15:26 huginn rambutan: nate was last seen in #koha 2 years, 10 weeks, 4 days, 20 hours, 36 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <Nate> Hi cait and everyone!
15:26 kf oleonard: doesn't work for german
15:26 rambutan @seen natec
15:26 huginn rambutan: natec was last seen in #koha 2 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <NateC> Hiya amitgupta_
15:26 kf i think i know why
15:26 kf for english it's part of the description too: language
15:28 oleonard I can search for other preferences for which the preference name is not in the description
15:28 oleonard Full or partial string
15:28 kf defaultlanguage wilo find it in german too
15:28 kf it's weird
15:28 wahanui did you try flushing the cache and deleting wahanui's cookies
15:28 kf lol
15:28 kf thx wahanui
15:28 wahanui yw
15:29 magnuse same here, searching for "language" and "Language" does not find DefaultLanguageField008, but searching for "DefaultLanguageField008?" does
15:29 drojf hahaha
15:29 rambutan @seen bag
15:29 huginn rambutan: bag was last seen in #koha 6 days, 11 hours, 50 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <bag> good evening peeps
15:30 magnuse kf: that *is* weird
15:30 tcohen jenking uses perl 5.10?
15:30 rambutan @seen jcamins
15:30 huginn rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <jcamins> Joubu: if you set the status to PQA, I'll push it next time I'm pushing things.
15:31 kf magnuse: norwegian templates only?
15:32 oleonard rambutan: Do you have a question?
15:32 rambutan OH, no, I'm just trying to spend $$. No big deal
15:32 kf rambutan: that is a good thing
15:33 * kf hands rambutan a cookie
15:33 rambutan not if you can't spend it and it gets taken away from you instead of used for a good purpose
15:33 magnuse kf: i tested with norwegian as the active language, yes. will test en now
15:34 drojf rambutan: i am a good purpose ;)
15:34 magnuse kf: when i switch to en the search for "language" finds *a lot* more prefs than when i used norwegian!
15:35 magnuse including the xslt sysprefs
15:35 gaetan_B bye !
15:36 * magnuse tries not to think about that and wanders off to play a little with colorful pieces of plastic
15:36 kf magnuse: i filed bug 10133
15:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10133 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , System preference search behaves different with translated templates
15:36 magnuse kf++
15:36 kf hm thta looks wrong
15:37 * kf stops worrying about the english and continues configuring
15:37 magnuse good plan :-)
15:42 * jcamins waves
15:43 * kf waves too
15:43 * drojf waves three
15:44 drojf also, fresh buckwheat bread!
15:45 jcamins Mmmm.
15:45 rambutan well, lookie
15:47 oleonard Do authority imports have any kind of record-matching rule?
15:47 jcamins oleonard: there are none in the sample data.
15:47 oleonard But it's possible?
15:48 jcamins Yeah.
15:48 jcamins I use them with LCN.
15:49 * oleonard nominates jcamins to add his rule to the sample data :P
15:49 jcamins Heh.
15:49 jcamins Not a bad idea.
15:55 reiveune bye
15:59 oleonard My fingers keep adding extra zeros to this big new bug numbers.
15:59 oleonard Now I'm wondering if I'll live to see bug 100000
15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=100000 was not found.
15:59 jcamins oleonard: let's hope not?
16:00 jcamins That would mean that we had to deal with 90k bugs!
16:00 oleonard Hopefully Koha will trigger the singularity before then.
16:00 * gmcharlt would be overjoyed if folks continued to be interested in Koha for that long
16:01 jcamins gmcharlt: oh, I'd like people to remain interested in Koha, I'd just like to not have 90k bugs in the next 40 years before I retire.
16:04 clrh a project with bugtracker and reports means the project leave, so why not ;)
16:06 jcamins Because I probably get 10 e-mail messages per bug. That's 900k e-mail messages!
16:06 * jcamins is tired just thinking of it.
16:07 jcamins oleonard: any thoughts about using HTML5's off-line functionality in Koha's circ module?
16:07 drojf localstorage?
16:07 wahanui localstorage is cool
16:07 oleonard I have not had any, no. Have you?
16:08 jcamins I'm wondering if it might not be worth considering.
16:09 tcohen what doesn't need to be synchronous in koha
16:09 jcamins clrh: do you have any thoughts on that?
16:09 jcamins tcohen: ideally everything should be synchronous, but if there's no internet connection, circ desks need to continue functioning.
16:10 tcohen yes, sorry, I didn't read the circ thing, was thinking on stuff like frameworks
16:12 rambutan clrh?
16:12 wahanui i think clrh is a little busy now, I can send you the zeno mail and some information about this
16:12 jcamins rambutan: clrh manages the KOCT FF plugin.
16:12 rambutan ic
16:14 jcamins I guess the easiest thing to do would be to start with a separate, simplified "off-line circ" page that is downloaded by the manifest for mainpage.pl
16:14 kf why is noone trying to send me home today?
16:15 jcamins kf: we want you to do more work, of course. Get to work!
16:15 jcamins :P
16:15 maximep is there a hard line on what enhancements can make it into minor releases (like 3.12.1) or is it up to the release manager to choose ?
16:15 kf pff
16:15 clrh jcamins: about ? hmtl5 ?
16:15 clrh nop
16:16 clrh rambutan: I am leading developpment team at BibLibre on Koha and Drupal mainly
16:16 clrh and somewhere there is koct
16:17 jcamins clrh: yeah, instead of having KOC + KOCT, I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to take the KOCT code and put it into an HTML5 application.
16:17 rambutan ic, tnx
16:17 jcamins (that is part of regular Koha)
16:18 clrh hm
16:18 paul_p jcamins = how could a library get the HTML5 page if there is no network available ?
16:18 jcamins Because the ideal would be for people to just keep working when the connection goes down.
16:19 jcamins paul_p: at some point you must have a connection for downloading the KOC.
16:19 clrh we have another nice developpment called "kss" for "koha synchronised system" but a little more... complex...
16:19 clrh jcamins: librarians already have koct installed
16:20 paul_p jcamins you install the plugin when you setup your browser, and it's always available when you need it. Could we do that with HTML5 ?
16:20 clrh or they can access mozilla server to downlaod addon
16:20 clrh yep
16:20 jcamins But that doesn't help if you don't have the patron database.
16:20 jcamins So at some point, there is a connection to Koha to download the patron database, right?
16:21 jcamins At that time you just go to mainpage.pl and your web browser downloads the HTML5 off-line application.
16:21 clrh jcamins: koct have not patron database
16:21 clrh -t
16:21 paul_p jcamins in koct there's not patron information. It's only in khall system that there is some
16:22 jcamins Oh.
16:22 jcamins Hm.
16:22 jcamins I didn't realize that.
16:22 clrh jcamins: existants systems does limit the developmment of another if you need it
16:22 jcamins I thought that KOCT had everything that Kyle's system had, but was a different interface.
16:23 paul_p jcamins you were wrong then ;-)
16:23 jcamins paul_p: apparently so. :)
16:23 jcamins khall: as the author of the original KOC application, do you have any thoughts about HTML5 off-line functionality?
16:24 khall is there a patch out there for this?
16:24 jcamins No.
16:24 paul_p jcamins in fact, we could add it, in Firefox plugins, you can embeed the patron DB, and store it in a local DB engine. But we haven't made it yet (and no one asked for it)
16:24 khall that sounds pretty spiffy, if it supports all the current features
16:24 jcamins I'm wondering whether it would be a good idea.
16:25 khall standardized, works cross-browser, cross-platform, no local software to install. Sounds great to me!
16:25 jcamins Well, partly cross-browser.
16:25 khall and it could grab the necessary offline circ data in an ajaxy way.
16:26 jcamins http://caniuse.com/namevalue-storage
16:27 jcamins And...
16:27 khall the big three is good enough to me
16:27 jcamins http://caniuse.com/#feat=offline-apps
16:27 rambutan I'm setting up the computer systems for our new/used bookmobile right now...
16:27 clrh (leaving good week end)
16:27 jcamins Though I believe that localstorage is more of a problem.
16:28 tcohen bye clrh
16:28 rambutan from the start we will only be using Linux systems for everything on there, including the circ module, whatever that happens to be
16:30 drojf localstorage is rather limited in size. if you want to have the patron db in there that might be a problem
16:30 rambutan I will be glad to test whatever wonderful things come floating down from the sky on the "other browsers", like Konqueror and Epiphany
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16:34 jcamins drojf: actually, that was the wrong thing.
16:34 jcamins I meant this: http://caniuse.com/#feat=indexeddb
16:35 drojf i just wanted to suggest that but it's not really widespread among browsers it seems
16:35 jcamins FF, Chrome, and IE10 aren't bad.
16:36 drojf it's fine for me ;)
16:36 jcamins And we could get Safari and Opera with a shim.
16:37 jcamins If, you know, we cared.
16:37 drojf opera is going to change things anyway so they might actually support it in the future
16:38 drojf i'm more surprised it does not work on android. not important for koha, but for mobile apps
16:38 drojf but well, you can have ff on android if you care
16:39 jcamins Anyway, right now offline circ is caveat bibliothecus.
16:39 drojf heh
17:02 * druthb gets the velcro ready for cait's return
17:02 * druthb hands jcamins the duct tape. "Don't let her past ya."
17:04 asif hi to everyone
17:04 oleonard Hi asif
17:04 asif please anyone can guide me about the error i am facing in koha
17:05 asif whenever i made any changes in prefrences and save it it shows "Internal Server Error, please reload the page", please guide me what to do now to fix this
17:05 jcamins asif: what version of Koha?
17:06 asif i am using 3.10.4 for windows
17:07 asif i am using 3.10.04 for windows
17:07 jcamins What do you mean, "for Windows"?
17:07 jcamins Koha does not run on Windows.
17:08 asif means i m koha for windows
17:08 jcamins Right, I don't understand what that means because Koha runs on Linux only.
17:09 asif ok plz guide me what to do for fix of above said error
17:09 jcamins I can't because I don't know what caused it, sorry.
17:09 jcamins Did it work in the past?
17:10 jcamins If it did and something changed, maybe changing that thing back will fix the problem.
17:10 asif not i just start working now and found this error
17:10 asif actually as i mentioned i am working on it for Koha windows
17:11 oleonard asif: How did you install Koha on Windows?
17:11 asif and found this error initially its working is smooth on linux but in windows everythng is fyn just facing problem in saving prefrences
17:12 jcamins Do you mean that you are using a web browser on Windows?
17:12 jcamins What web browser?
17:13 asif i have customized all prerequisite softwares and Win32 in a single directory and run that and it works
17:13 jcamins asif: so *you* are porting Koha to Windows?
17:14 asif yes i have tried and it works
17:14 jcamins In that case, you will have to troubleshoot it yourself, I think, because no one else runs Koha under Windows.
17:14 asif hmmmmmm
17:14 jcamins Be sure to document how you made it work, though, for anyone who wants to work on it in the future.
17:14 * cait has to agree with jcamins
17:14 asif really sad to listen this
17:15 asif bcz i expect someone help me here :(
17:15 cait Windows is not free software... I see it more as a logical consequence *shrug*
17:15 jcamins asif: the documentation does say that Koha runs under Linux.
17:15 jcamins And *BSD, I suppose.
17:16 asif as i know it already in practice about koha on window but not successfuly anywhere
17:16 asif anhow have to fix it now on myself
17:16 jcamins If you document on the wiki how you installed Koha on Windows, perhaps other people will decide to work on it too.
17:17 asif as soon as make complete my initial working on it will must share with community
17:17 jcamins :)
17:17 jcamins asif++
17:18 cait asif++ :)
17:18 asif have anybody from you face such issue in linux?
17:18 asif bcz i dnt face this
17:19 oleonard asif: Do you have error logs you can check?
17:19 asif if someone guide me littl emay be i will be able to fix it more better way
17:19 asif whenever i made any changes in prefrences and save it it shows "Internal Server Error, please reload the page"
17:20 drojf asif: what browser are you using?
17:20 oleonard asif: Usually when Koha runs into an error it logs the error. You should try to find the error log.
17:21 asif i am using mozilla
17:25 asif i found this is the actual error log "[Fri Apr 26 21:04:42 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] (OS 2)The system cannot find the file specified. : couldn't spawn child process: D:/usr/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/svc/config/systempreferences, referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?tab=patrons"
17:25 asif oleonard
17:25 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
17:26 oleonard asif: That error message should be a good starting point for figuring out what is wrong.
17:27 asif oleonard have you anythng from this message
17:28 jcamins Looks like you will need to submit a patch for Koha either correct the path, if that's the problem, or correct the way the file is being executed to be cross-platform, if that's the problem.
17:28 jcamins However, this is a very Windows-specific problem, I think.
17:28 oleonard asif: It looks like an error which is a direct result of Koha being installed on Windows, so you'll have to figure it out on your own.
17:28 oleonard asif: None of us has ever tried to install Koha on Windows.
17:30 asif #!/usr/bin/perl # Copyright 2009 Jesse Weaver # # This file is part of Koha. # # Koha is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the # terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software # Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later # version. # # Koha is distributed in the hope that
17:30 jcamins You don't need to copy the code into the IRC channel.
17:30 asif hmmm
17:30 asif i tried but its not copied
17:32 asif ok thanks alot now try my ownself
17:33 jcamins Good luck.
18:00 drojf when i try to build a package of master t/Labels.t fails and the build stops
18:00 jcamins drojf: really?
18:00 jcamins Odd.
18:00 jcamins Works for me.
18:00 drojf yes. i tried master + 10101 first, but it also happens with just master
18:00 jcamins Any error message?
18:01 drojf paste?
18:01 wahanui I eat paste! It's tasty! http://paste.koha-community.org
18:02 pastebot "drojf" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "building master package" (209 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/484
18:03 cait dro
18:04 cait drojf: i migh tknow your problem :)
18:04 cait packages
18:04 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
18:04 cait my coworker made me add a line there
18:04 cait hm not there
18:04 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way
18:04 cait this here
18:04 cait sudo pbuilder create --distribution squeeze
18:05 cait and then according to him it worked
18:05 drojf why would that be a problem? i have built packages before
18:05 * drojf is confused
18:05 cait well... that I don't know
18:09 drojf doing that now but i can't really imagine that would be a problem
18:10 drojf oh you did not add that, but edited. so i probably screw up everything right now
18:11 * drojf should learn not to copy+paste things people on the internet tell him
18:11 cait huh?
18:12 cait what did I do?
18:14 drojf you said you added a line so i thought i'd just do what it says. but since you did not add but edit it i did something i already did before, again, with different parameters. i doubt that was wise. funny that i thought i should make a backup of my packagebuilder vm just today. which i postponed ^^
18:15 cait oh
18:15 cait i am sorry
18:15 drojf not your fault, i should look at things before i paste them ^^
18:16 drojf hm yeah it kind of deleted the whole build environment
18:17 jcamins drojf: it was time to rebuild it anyway.
18:17 cait all i know is that we had the problem you described when building from master - so Ithought it might help
18:18 drojf cait: maybe it did
18:19 drojf jcamins: i had updated it today, as in get the new apt key, update apt etc.
18:19 jcamins drojf: it was time to rebuild it from scratch. :P
18:19 drojf why?
18:19 * jcamins shrugs.
18:19 drojf i see
18:19 drojf :)
18:19 cait so you don't forget how it's done?
18:19 jcamins If you tell yourself that maybe you'll feel better about copy-and-pasting your day away. :P
18:19 jcamins ^^ exactly
18:20 drojf i never knew how it is done, i copied and pasted from the wiki the first time too :D
18:21 drojf it's building, and downloading a million of things so i think it works again
18:23 cait drojf: fingers crossed
18:23 cait bug 10030
18:23 wahanui bug 10030 is giving me trouble too
18:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10030 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding
18:24 tcohen have a nice weekend #koha
18:26 drojf you too tcohen
18:29 cait slef?
18:29 wahanui well, slef is an item record
18:30 drojf he is??
18:30 cait interesting :)
18:30 cait i had hoped he would be an item record with status available
18:31 cait @later tell slef http://paste.koha-community.org/485 < that's the git bz problem with diacritics in the commit message
18:31 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
18:33 cait oleonard++ :)
18:35 cait oh jenkins?
18:35 wahanui jenkins is http://jenkins.koha-community.org/
18:35 drojf cait: it really passed. does not make any sense to me, given that you put that on the wiki in december and i have built packages after that, but i won't ask as long as it works now. thanks :)
18:35 cait hm no
18:35 cait that's way more recent
18:35 drojf ah
18:35 drojf then i fail to read the wiki log :D
18:36 cait :)
18:36 cait wehave started testing around beta2 I think
18:36 drojf april 2013. that makes more sense
18:37 cait :)
18:37 cait i can ask my coworker why that fixes it on monday
18:38 drojf i built a package last week, but that wasn't master
18:38 drojf i wonder what the default was when you have to add squeeze as a parameter, on a squeeze system
18:39 jcamins sid
18:39 drojf ah
18:39 cait i think missing dependency
18:40 cait because that was in squeeze but not in sid... irrc
18:40 cait iirc even
18:44 drojf i blame google groups. and koha on windows
18:44 oleonard I'm concerned about jcamins' comment on Bug 10107 "when I disable the opacbookbag syspref all the other javascript on the page breaks" However I can't reproduce the problem.
18:45 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10107 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , opacbookbag shouldn't prevent from adding items to a list in the OPAC
18:45 jcamins oleonard: really?
18:45 oleonard The page in question being OPAC search results
18:45 jcamins Right.
18:45 jcamins It happens for me quite consistently.
18:45 jcamins I don't think it's the cache.
18:46 jcamins [off] You can check: http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=smith&branch_group_limit=
18:47 oleonard JS isn't broken on that page for me
18:48 jcamins Really?
18:48 jcamins That's bizarre.
18:48 jcamins Because I can reproduce it in any browser.
18:49 cait jcamins: plack?
18:49 wahanui Plack is a FastCGI thingy that works with Koha. See http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack for more information.
18:49 cait i had no problems either it worked as described
18:49 jcamins cait: can't be. oleonard just reported it working.
18:49 cait ?
18:49 cait oh
18:50 jcamins I just shared a link to a page that has broken JS for me no matter which browser I use.
18:50 cait looks fine to me :(
18:50 jcamins Very odd.
18:51 cait jcamins: hm no add to list for me
18:51 cait did you remove it?
18:52 oleonard You're right cait, I didn't catch that
18:52 jcamins So you see stars and not round bubbles?
18:52 oleonard round bubbles = disabled radio buttons :P
18:53 cait i see stars
18:53 oleonard And I see grey stars
18:53 jcamins Right, I see the disabled radio buttons when I should be seeing gray stars.
18:56 cait jcamins: are you logged in?
18:56 jcamins cait: no.
18:56 cait hm
18:56 jcamins I will log in.
18:56 jcamins Hold on.
18:57 oleonard Oh of course the add to list isn't there because we're not logged in
18:57 jcamins Okay, I'm logged in, and still it doesn't look right.
18:58 jcamins But as long as the problem I was seeing doesn't occur for other people, I'm not too worried.
18:58 jcamins It's probably security policy on my computer.
18:59 oleonard Alright I will hope for the best
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19:43 * jcamins learns about Firefox's 3D mode.
19:43 oleonard the dev tool?
19:44 jcamins Yeah.
19:44 jcamins Kind of cool.
19:47 jcamins I just learned an interesting LCSH heading: Beauty Operator.
19:47 jcamins *Operators
19:47 jcamins aka hairdresser
19:53 cait :)
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20:21 * oleonard may have a solution for Bug 5766
20:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Add system preference for excluding articles from jQuery table sorter
20:21 jcamins Yay!
20:21 oleonard Stay tuned! Will continue on Monday :)
20:21 oleonard See y'all later
20:21 rambutan bye
20:25 cait :)
21:29 rangi morning
22:12 * rangi heads off to the market
22:12 jcamins Buy strawberries!
22:12 jcamins They're wonderful!
22:12 rangi http://www.hillstfarmersmarket.org.nz/
22:12 jcamins I bought another 4lbs today.
22:12 rangi out of season here
22:13 jcamins Oh, right.
22:13 rangi ill get some venison i think, and some veges of some sort
22:13 rangi bbl
22:13 jcamins Ooh, nice!
22:52 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9886' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fbdc7b1d6edb9a49d21beccaaa38770119e396f> / Bug 9886: ParseLetter removes too often punctuation characters from fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4b1c71e91a19fcf37e302bba66019807b18cb307> / Merge branch 'bug_9671' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a