Time Nick Message 23:47 wizzyrea oo cool 23:47 cjh currently only support paypal and bitcoin, but it is open source https://github.com/freedomsponsors 23:47 cjh http://www.freedomsponsors.org/ 23:18 trea hi eythian_levin 23:13 eythian_levin hi 22:32 Guest3097 Thank you all for your support 22:31 Guest3097 Hello, just to let you know that I have configured it to work with IP and I have finally complete the installation. I AM SO GLAD IT WORKS, at last 21:08 Guest3097 intranet should be the admin page, I am correct? 21:08 Guest3097 Hello, please I am currently looking at the apache config file for my site, I think I mixed up the servernames for the OPAC and intranet 21:03 Guest3097 hello, I checked and it seems like apache is running, do I paste the result? 20:59 Guest3097 I use khadmin for admin page and library for opac page all configured 20:57 Guest3097 ok, on port 80 20:57 wizzyrea what you describe really sounds like an apache configuration issue 20:57 wizzyrea is apache listening on the right ports, I mean 20:56 wizzyrea are you listening on the right ports? 20:54 Guest3097 I follow the instructions as I have been advised after re-installing my server and all went on smooth up till this point 20:54 Guest3097 like what? 20:53 wizzyrea did you change something? 20:53 wizzyrea is apache running? mysql? 20:53 Guest3097 But the ip address resoves to the OPAC page 20:53 cait hm 20:53 Guest3097 Server not available 20:53 cait what do you see? 20:52 Guest3097 My koha admin page is not loading... 20:52 Guest3097 I have been able to successfully install KOHA and created the koha instance, but I need guidance from here on 20:51 cait hi Guest3097 ;) 20:50 Guest3097 Hello and good day to you all 20:21 oleonard See you tomorrow #koha 20:18 tcohen oleonard++ for that opac snapshot 20:17 oleonard Alright, out it goes 20:15 jcamins oleonard: no. 20:13 oleonard I see it in the template but no indication of how to trigger it 20:13 oleonard Is the "scan index" feature active in the OPAC? 20:12 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 17.9°C (3:08 PM CDT on April 22, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 20:12 rambutan @wunder 64507 19:17 jcamins jeff: koha-restful has been explicitly licensed GPLv3+: http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha-restful;a=blob;f=LICENSE;h=94a9ed024d3859793618152ea559a168bbcbb5e2;hb=HEAD (in case you didn't see clrh's announcement before) 19:15 tcohen 『3hi 19:12 * jcamins was referring to the Koha theme, not a rock band from the late sixties and early seventies. 19:11 jcamins *CCSR 19:11 jcamins I like that a lot better than what CCR has right now. :) 19:10 oleonard Trying to be CCSRish 19:10 jcamins I like that style a lot. 19:09 cait and act accordingly 19:09 cait I think since then more code depending on the setting has crept in - but it would be nice if koha would detect items that have been created 19:09 oleonard No, just a styled div 19:09 cait i mean the setting would only matter for ordering new baskets 19:09 jcamins oleonard: how did you do the actions area on the right? Is that a Bootstrap well? 19:07 cait and koha would do the right thing on receive 19:07 cait in the begining when this was introduced (acqcreateitem) you ycould test it with each setting 19:07 jcamins oleonard++ # OAC + Bootstrap looks beautiful 19:07 cait that they broke 19:07 cait it will require fixing something 19:07 cait also nice 18:59 jcamins I was also asked about (optionally) overriding AcqCreateItem on a per-basket basis. 18:55 cait often you have orders coming in late 18:55 cait a lot 18:55 cait yep 18:55 cait i mean what you said will be already quite nice 18:55 jcamins I was told that it happens around the end of the fiscal year and the beginning of the next... which means 4-6 months of the year! 18:55 cait but that owuld be a nice one 18:55 cait we don't dipslay them nicely... but harder to do and probably not funded 18:55 cait the other problem is hierarchies 18:55 cait i would welcome a sane display 18:55 cait which can happend end of year 18:55 jcamins Exactly. 18:54 cait it will happen when you have multiple years active 18:54 cait yeah in general we should have a more sane way of displying it 18:54 cait ah 18:54 cait ok let me reread that sentence 18:53 jcamins I was asked about making it possible to choose between active budgets on the order receive page if more than one budget with the fund code selected for a given item is active. 18:50 cait i tihnk the only place it soudl be budget is the budgets and funds pages 18:50 cait you are probably right 18:49 jcamins Could someone please look at orderreceive.pl and confirm for me whether I am right in thinking that the label should be "Fund" and not "Budget"? 18:42 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 18:42 jcamins @later tell tcohen I'll test Plack patches, if I'm able. 18:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9819 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , stopwords related code should be removed 18:41 jcamins bug 9819 18:39 mtompset Well. I'm off to be a slave to my schedule. Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. 18:20 oleonard Thanks everyone. It's just a start. 18:13 maximep oleonard++ looks great! 18:08 cait magnuse++ oleonard++ :) 18:07 magnuse and packages++ btw 18:07 magnuse yeah oleonard++ 17:59 gmcharlt oleonard++ 17:59 magnuse yeah, yeah... 17:58 wahanui pretty is, like, subjective 17:58 magnuse pretty! 17:56 cait nice! 17:55 oleonard http://zivotdesign.com/zp/Koha/bootstrap-opac-redesign/bootstrap-opac-detail-page.png 17:33 cait hi :) 17:01 gaetan_B bye 16:22 mtompset Oh that Federation tab on the SimpleSamlPHP page is so useful when there's a metadata problem. :) 16:09 janPasi thanks :) 16:08 janPasi i'd still prefer it building up progressively, but this will do for now :) 16:08 gmcharlt cool 16:08 janPasi now it works well enough :) 16:08 janPasi oh, ok 16:07 gmcharlt try turning on the TraceSubjectSubdivisions system preference 16:07 janPasi since it just ignores most of the headings in chain 16:06 gmcharlt ah, hold on a second 16:06 janPasi well this isn't working by any standards 16:06 * gmcharlt rereads scrollback 16:06 janPasi *headings 16:06 gmcharlt and "does not work" is too strong of a statement -- there can be an honest difference of opinion regarding whether subdivisions shoujld get their own links 16:06 janPasi i'd be happy if it did the search with all the subject heading in a chain, but it doesn't :( 16:05 gmcharlt janPasi: like I said, what you're asking for is a different issue 16:05 janPasi gmcharlt: well it still doesn't work :D 16:05 khall question: what does notify_id and notify_level in the accountlines table refer to? 16:04 gmcharlt janPasi: re 4276? that patch was pushed nearly two years ago; the effect it had is what you're seeing now 16:04 tcohen s/possible/possible check/ 16:04 tcohen s/¡/?/ 16:04 tcohen what's a possible for the creation of a koha instance in a packages setup¡ 16:01 sudhir . 15:59 janPasi gmcharlt: searches with all the subject headings? 15:59 alohabot Hi mib_ssgz4m, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 15:59 janPasi gmcharlt: so how does it work with this bugfix? 15:57 kf we only have very few loc subjects in our data, so I am not quite understanding how it works still 15:57 gmcharlt kf: yeah, I should play around with those 15:56 kf gmcharlt: hm maybe you can do something like that - there are several switches and this new popup feature in 3.12 15:53 gmcharlt and a new bug could be filed as such 15:53 gmcharlt having the XSLT view of subject headings progressively build up the search string with a separate link on each subdivision would be (IMO) an enhancement to the XSLT templates 15:53 gmcharlt janPasi: jwagner: I think that's a different bug from what janPasi is asking for 15:51 janPasi jwagner: oh, ok :) 15:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4276 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, "Related subjects" search doesn't work with XSLT on and chained subject terms 15:51 jwagner janPasi, this is supposedly fixed -- see Bug 4276 15:44 janPasi should i report this as a bug or is it known already? 15:43 janPasi that's the way it should do with xslt also 15:43 janPasi and so on 15:43 janPasi if you point at the second subject heading in chain, the search is done with the first subject heading AND the second subject heading 15:42 janPasi in that case if you point and click the first subject heading, the search is done with it 15:42 janPasi if you disable xslt altogether, it works very smartly 15:41 janPasi now if you point and click the subject(s) koha only searches with the first subject heading 15:41 janPasi http://gmc.koha.kepa.fi/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=1066&query_desc=su:soitinmusiikki%20and%20su:kantele%20and%20su:Suomi 15:41 janPasi for example: 15:40 janPasi there is a bug in dealing with subject headings in opac 15:28 reiveune bye 15:19 paul_p rambutan i'm here if you need me 15:16 janPasi oleonard: ok, we'll see :D 15:13 huginn rambutan: paul_p was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 18 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <paul_p> hi rangi & everybody ! 15:13 rambutan @seen paul_p 15:13 oleonard janPasi: I usually find that I can puzzle out how to make minor changes. 15:13 oleonard janPasi: I don't know that we have any Koha-specific documentation on it, but you can Google XSLT and get lots of resources 15:13 clrh thx kf 15:12 janPasi oh, that easy, huh? :D 15:12 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 15:12 kf @later tell jcamins - (17:06:57) clrh: koha-restful is now officialy in gpl v3 ;) cc kf paul_p and jared when he 'll be back 15:12 oleonard janPasi: There you will train with Yoda, the Jedi master 15:11 kf clrh: thx :) 15:11 janPasi what's that? :D 15:11 janPasi :o 15:11 oleonard janPasi: You must travel to the planet Dagobah... 15:11 janPasi it seems pretty complicated 15:11 janPasi is there a wikipage or some other documentation that explains xslt? 15:10 janPasi yeah, that's what i thought :) 15:10 libsysguy assuming you're using marc21 15:10 clrh koha-restful is now officialy in gpl v3 ;) cc kf paul_p and jared when he 'll be back 15:10 libsysguy you probably want http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl;hb=HEAD 15:09 janPasi single item page is mainly what i'm after at this point 15:00 libsysguy are you looking to change the results page or the display single item page 14:59 janPasi now i just need to find out which sheet is for which page :D 14:58 janPasi ok, found them, thanks :) 14:57 libsysguy ^^ janPasi 14:57 libsysguy http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree;f=koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/prog/en/xslt;h=9ca99456917e80517f5a7b802a51156109675bef;hb=HEAD 14:55 janPasi where are the xslt sheets for opac in koha? 14:55 kf yes 14:55 janPasi ok, i need to edit xslt or something? 14:55 gmcharlt janPasi: in general, no 14:55 oleonard No 14:55 janPasi is it enough to just change the visibility of marc subfields in the framework structure to make the fields visible in OPAC? 14:54 janPasi i have a question: 14:54 janPasi hi guys 14:54 mtompset And trix are for kids? ;) 14:53 druthb gmcharlt++ 14:53 gmcharlt (even the gummi ones) 14:53 gmcharlt ;) 14:53 * gmcharlt is firmly of the opninon that worms are for birds! 14:52 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #164: "<sekjal> word of advice to folks: take an aspirin before reading C4/Overdues.pm" (added by wizzyrea at 09:08 PM, November 14, 2011) 14:52 gmcharlt @quote random 14:51 druthb calories *love* me, as evidenced by my panoramic physique. 14:47 libsysguy calories don't love me back 14:47 * libsysguy loves calories 14:46 mtompset 4000 calories?! Eat that over 2 days. ;) 14:43 mtompset (Skittles Gun) 14:43 libsysguy I did not think that was a gummy worm at first glance 14:43 mtompset http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-JRXTuqNII 14:43 oleonard Whoa. 14:42 druthb libsysguy: http://goo.gl/ioCqg 14:42 libsysguy :p 14:42 libsysguy I knew there was a reason I was missing #koha 14:41 mtompset but they don't hurt as much, and I thought the dispute was M&M's vs. Skittles. 14:41 libsysguy the bright crawlers are delish 14:41 druthb If sticky was the goal, would chuck gummy bears. or gummy worms, which are ickier. 14:41 libsysguy shoot…I just proke perl 14:40 mtompset That's gross, not just mean, libsysguy. 14:40 * mtompset nods, "And probably would hurt more too -- if that is part of the goal." 14:40 libsysguy jollyranchers have a fantastic sticking property when property wetted 14:39 druthb jawbreakers have the nice aerodynamic round shape. 14:39 mtompset jawbreakers? ;) 14:39 druthb yes, it would. 14:39 oleonard That would really smart. 14:38 druthb ooooh. 14:38 * oleonard considers maybe a Jolly Rancher... 14:38 wahanui :) 14:38 druthb wahanui: botsnack Skittles. 14:38 mtompset Almost sounds like a Skittles commercial, "Feel the rainbow." 14:38 wahanui I know. That's why I said it. 14:38 oleonard Very true. 14:38 druthb oleonard: only if you're looking for some serious *thud*. For a more-stinging result, Skittles. Also, Skittles are *nasty* to eat, and make better ammo than wasting perfectly good M&Ms 14:37 libsysguy I will concede the latter point oleonard 14:37 kf lol 14:37 oleonard Peanut M&Ms are superior in both flavor and projectile quality. 14:37 * druthb got her nails done Friday, and is feeling sassy today. Best look out. 14:36 libsysguy hehe druthb :p 14:36 libsysguy its almost as old as the VIM vs Emacs war mtompset 14:36 * mtompset laughs, "A skittles vs. M&M's war?" 14:36 druthb …and as for coming down here, "bring it, youngster." 14:36 druthb libsysguy: at least I didn't use my slingshot. 14:36 libsysguy druthb knows I prefer m&m's 14:35 mtompset Why the skittles, druthb? 14:35 druthb hi, mtompset! 14:35 libsysguy don't make me come down there druthb 14:35 mtompset -- don't want anyone to feel left out. :) 14:35 mtompset Greetings, oleonard tcohen druthb. :) 14:33 * druthb chucks Skittles at libsysguy. 14:32 libsysguy morning mtompset 14:32 mtompset Greetings, libsysguy. :) 14:27 mtompset Okay... broken, but in a better way. :) 14:26 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:26 tcohen @later tell eythian I need to add --disabled to koha-list to ease the bash-completion thing 14:22 * kf hopes magnuse finds some 14:20 * magnuse wanders off in search of edibles 14:19 mtompset obi-one error strikes again. 14:18 mtompset DOH! I'm half awake. Looking at the wrong function. 14:14 mtompset Right? 14:14 mtompset use blah; is basically a require blah; import blah ...;? 14:13 mtompset TimeToRefactorItIntoSomeOtherNamingConvention. :P 14:12 oleonard Time to maybe take that section out? :P 14:12 oleonard Nice snippet from opac-advsearch.tt: [% IF ( if_expanded_options_actually_worked ) %] 14:09 mtompset print STDERR works for Auth.pm, but the new Auth_with_Shibboleth.pm nothing comes out?! 14:09 mtompset I tried looking at the apache2 logs AND the koha logs. 14:08 oleonard warn works fine for me in a .pm file. Are you sure you're looking at the right log? 14:08 tcohen http://perldoc.perl.org/Carp.html#DESCRIPTION 14:06 mtompset And I'm not trying to understand why. 14:06 mtompset work in .pm file. 14:06 mtompset t 14:06 mtompset warn didn' 14:06 oleonard Why not "warn" ? 14:06 tcohen its debugging, it doesn't need to be elegant 14:06 mtompset That at least seems to work. -- Yes, I know it is ugly. 14:05 mtompset yep... print STDERR "blah\n"; 14:05 tcohen did you try carp? 14:03 mtompset just trying to get some "print blah" type messages into my testing code to see where the problem with the patch is. 14:03 wahanui i guess the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes. 14:03 tcohen mtompset: what's the problem? 13:58 * mtompset sighs, "Can't seem to get it to work?!" 13:49 tcohen (searching) 13:48 tcohen hmm, db_dependent tests return the same wether zebrasrv is running or not? 13:47 tcohen :-P 13:46 mtompset The kohaclone directory is small enough for a grep blah `find .` ;) 13:46 tcohen i missed the -R for grep 13:46 mtompset Doing that now. ;) 13:46 tcohen grep -l "use Carp;" * 13:45 tcohen looks like it should work 13:44 tcohen it is used in several places, but i don't know if it makes any difference thou :-D 13:44 mtompset haven't used that before. 13:44 tcohen use Carp; 13:44 mtompset carp? 13:43 tcohen maybe you could carp instead 13:43 mtompset Okay... that explains that. 13:43 tcohen but in the .pm libs it doesnt 13:43 tcohen I found that warn in a CGI writes in the /var/log/koha files 13:42 mtompset I thought that: warn "blah"; would go into some log file somewhere, but I can't find it. 13:42 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:36 kf maybe you could point tcohen to it? 13:36 kf jcamins: hm 9819 - didn't you have the test data from jenkins somewhere? 13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags 13:35 kf bug 5858 13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9826 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Missing fields in MARC21 authority framework 13:35 kf bug 9826 13:34 kf i'd really love if someone could take a look at the marc21 frameowrk updates bgkriegel did 13:30 kf magnuse++ 13:29 kf safe. 13:29 kf safe travels? 13:29 kf save travels :) 13:29 * jcamins heads off for an 11am meeting on the other side of the world (aka Brooklyn) 13:28 magnuse w00t! 13:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on April 22, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Falling). 13:27 magnuse @wunder boo 13:26 tcohen oh :-D 13:26 kf zweistein = two stones... and so on 13:26 kf einstein = one stone 13:25 kf tcohen: yep 13:25 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Morningside Place, Houston, Texas is 16.8°C (8:20 AM CDT on April 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 13:25 druthb @wunder 77098 13:24 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 22.0°C (10:00 AM ART on April 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 13:24 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:24 druthb My kids are *good* at that line of reasoning. 13:24 druthb Kids: ouch! Me: Hurry up! Kids: but… Me: well, if you'd worn *shoes*… 13:24 * magnuse makes notes about gravel 13:23 druthb A couple of strolls in the gravel cured them. 13:22 tcohen are those numbers in german? 13:22 druthb heh. I got my kids past that at a young age. At the time, we lived on a gravel drive. "Fine, you don't wanna wear shoes. C'mon, then." 13:22 tcohen what's the fun kf? http://9gag.com/gag/aWQr50n?ref=fbp 13:22 oleonard druthb: I save that for when my kids refuse to put on their shoes. *sigh* 13:21 jcamins magnuse: it's more like MARCeinundzwanzig. 13:21 kf and as koha forgets fields that don't exist in the framework... and I don't like data loss... 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9819 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , stopwords related code should be removed 13:21 * tcohen was secretly confident unit tests were candidates for headaches in bug 9819 13:21 kf oly they agreedon the use nationally 13:21 kf it's 9xx and the like 13:21 druthb oleonard: I just can't picture you getting worked up about much of anything, you know that? 13:21 kf it is 13:21 magnuse but is it marc21 if there are fields specific to germany? ;-) 13:20 jcamins kf: I think that's a great idea! 13:19 druthb kf++ 13:19 druthb nuh-uh! 13:19 kf druthb: yep 13:19 wahanui thanks druthb :) 13:19 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie 13:19 druthb I need a *reason* to give you karma? 13:19 wahanui wait, is, like, it only in items 13:19 druthb wait, what? 13:18 kf druthb: you can only give me karma after I did something, notb efore 13:18 * druthb throws a straitjacket around oleonard before he gets out of hand. 13:18 tcohen druthb: lol, nice one 13:18 kf lol 13:18 oleonard It would make me SO ANGRY!!!1 13:18 druthb doooo eeeeet! 13:18 druthb kf++ 13:18 magnuse just do it! :-) 13:18 kf :) 13:18 kf guess that's a no 13:16 kf the german web installer? 13:15 kf would someon be opposed tome adding a file with germany specific marc21 fields to the web installer? 13:15 druthb http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2013/04/22/if-web-browsers-were-celebrities-comic/ #after jcamins laments about ie... 13:15 kf tcohen: that's the general irc meeting - nancy called for one abotu kohacon :) 13:15 jcamins :) 13:15 jcamins It's on a weird day. 13:15 jcamins Nope. You're right. 13:15 tcohen may 7? 13:14 kf someone should check 13:14 kf i might be even wrong *shrug* 13:14 jcamins But it is weird. :) 13:14 jcamins I know. 13:14 kf i haven't set the date 13:13 jcamins Weird. 13:13 jcamins On a Tuesday? 13:13 kf kohacon :) 13:12 jcamins There's a Koha meeting tomorrow? 13:12 tcohen yes kf 13:12 kf did you see there is a koha meeting this week? tomorrow even 13:12 kf tcohen++ 13:10 druthb tcohen++ 13:09 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:09 tcohen @later tell rangi: we have new authorities elected at UNC. Next week I'll start looking for funding to get to KohaCon13. Also, i'm starting the procedure to get my US visa 12:53 druthb Hi, tcohen n oleonard n kf! :D 12:53 kf morning tcohen++ :) 12:52 tweetbot [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails OCLC Control Numbers and Koha http://t.co/2q17WUdZmr" 12:47 tcohen morning #koha 12:47 kf hi druthb :) 12:46 druthb o/ g'mornin! 12:46 oleonard Good morning druthb 12:36 kf hi oleonard :) 12:29 oleonard Hi #koha 12:28 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "There's still time to register to learn about #kohails and @novelistra integration: http://t.co/ncZv0orWAr" 11:32 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "OCLC Control Numbers and Koha http://t.co/CIbbFmYih1 #kohails" 11:15 mtj ok, now i'm reaaally off :) 11:12 mtj … and they will dump your db for you, for an outrageous fee 11:11 mtj … or tell you that only they know the passwd, and they wont give it to you 11:09 mtj perhaps they can point you to a config file on your box, with the password in it, etc.. 11:08 mtj InfoFinder, hmm, you may need to ask massey about that, 1st 11:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9050 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , rebuild_zebra should use the adelete action so it doesn't fail when deleting a record not in the index 11:04 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9050: Use safer adelete when deleting records from Zebra index 11:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #300: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/300/ 11:02 InfoFinder stuck - library mdb has a password :P 10:58 mtj InfoFinder, if you get stuck - pop back in the #channel sometime… :) 10:58 mtj ok, off for a bit... 10:50 mtj -> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mdbtools 10:50 mtj you can use 'mdb-tools' to poke about within that file 10:50 InfoFinder so chances are there's a 'marc' table? 10:48 mtj its just a plain old access/jet db file 10:48 mtj yep, sounds promising 10:48 InfoFinder library.mdb 10:47 InfoFinder there's an mdb file that might contain everything. 10:47 InfoFinder trying to figure that 10:47 mtj or, you could focus on grabbing them from your musac system, instead 10:46 mtj ...if you are going to attempt to grab those marc rcords from the intarweb 10:46 mtj yep, basically :) 10:43 InfoFinder ok.. .so need to find an isbn to marc conversion tool then.. 10:38 mtj tho…the catch with that method is - uou dont get all your bib's holding info 10:37 mtj i have written some scripts a few years ago, to something similar with SCIS, using their z39 service 10:35 InfoFinder *thinks* 10:35 InfoFinder which i don't - personally - ... 10:35 mtj ...if you have a SCIS subscription, that might work OK for you 10:33 mtj InfoFinder, some people copy/paste a list of ISBNs to SCIS, which returns a single big MARC file 10:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #300 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:22 mtj thats good news :) 10:21 mtj MARC Record: -> (Click here for details) 10:21 mtj http://musac.massey.ac.nz/webopac/mlmweb1.asp?WCI=ItemDetail&ItemID=4448 10:21 mtj ah, looks like it does.. 10:20 mtj … and/or, does it export MARC? 10:20 mtj InfoFinder, does MUSAC use/understand MARC? 10:20 kf or use some other tool to collect marc records 10:19 kf that won't be enough to feed to koha - you could use z39.50 to doanload one record after the other 10:18 InfoFinder hmm they are isbn numbers.. 10:17 rangi if you think it is marc, you can use marcdump to convert it to human readable format on a linux box you have MARC::Record installed on, or if you have to use windows then you could look at it with MarcEdit 10:16 rangi hmm you will need actual MARC not just a list of ISBN numbers if you want to import it 10:14 InfoFinder so now - select the file to stage?.. 10:13 InfoFinder ok - i have a txt file - with a list of what looks like ISBN numbers.. 10:13 mtj ha - cool, will do... 10:12 Joubu mtj: answered :) 10:11 mtj heya, i just ponged your email re: qa-tool :) 10:10 Joubu mtj: pong 10:08 mtj Joubu, ping… about? 10:08 * mtj waves to all 10:08 mtj hi InfoFinder 10:01 InfoFinder i think i've found how to pull the MARC records.. 09:55 kf hi paul_p 09:55 paul_p hi rangi & everybody ! 09:54 rangi hi paul_p 09:54 InfoFinder :) 09:54 InfoFinder yep - it is.. 09:51 rangi for the bibliographic data you could use MarcEdit or you could use csvtomarc.pl 09:51 kf yeah, never heard of that :) 09:51 rangi but yeah you have a bunch of options if you can get it out in csv 09:50 rangi must be an nz school if its Musac :) 09:49 InfoFinder checking that side of things now 09:49 InfoFinder hope so :) 09:49 rangi like CSV 09:49 rangi can you get the data out of Musac in a sane format? 09:49 InfoFinder any hints ? 09:49 rangi it always is 09:49 rangi InfoFinder: the trick will be getting the data out 09:48 InfoFinder has anyone here had experiance doing that ? 09:48 InfoFinder we've been asked to move a school over from Musac to Koha.. 09:48 wahanui yeah, yeah, hello, hello. Now fix some bugs for me, please. 09:48 InfoFinder hi all.. 08:35 Viktor hi magnuse and kf ! 08:32 * magnuse can only imagine :-) 08:31 kf magnuse: we had 24 last week... that was so nice 08:31 kf hi Viktor 08:31 magnuse and hiya Viktor 08:31 magnuse hah! 08:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on April 22, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). 08:30 magnuse @wunder boo 08:20 kf brr. 08:20 huginn kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on April 22, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 08:20 kf @wunder Konstanz 07:46 dcook Night koha folks! 07:45 dcook Anyway, it's way past my home time 07:39 dcook wb kf :) 07:38 kf morning magnuse :) 07:37 magnuse welcome back kf 07:37 * magnuse thinks MARC and all it's minions (including z39.50) should just go away 07:37 kf back :) 07:37 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 07:37 huginn GERMS!!!! 07:30 dcook Seeing as they no longer support ILL, I can't imagine the Bath profile is high on the list.. 07:29 dcook The Bath profile is maintained by Library and Archives Canada? Hmm... 07:27 * dcook glares at Z39.50 07:27 dcook Exactly! 07:27 dcook Yes! YES! 07:27 dcook "In practice, however, the functional complexity is limited by the uneven implementations by developers and commercial vendors." 07:27 dcook Also...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z39.50 07:24 dcook http://www.itsmarc.com/crs/mergedProjects/helpauth/helpauth/kinds_of_authority_records.htm 07:24 dcook Man...authorities are rather complicated... 07:17 dcook Even more complex than I previously thought 07:16 dcook I grilled Jared a bit on serial cataloguing earlier today 07:16 dcook Power to you ;) 07:16 gaetan_B it seems they want me to give them a complete training in marc21 cataloging though ! 07:16 gaetan_B i'll go back in June to give them a training and close the project 07:15 gaetan_B it was nice 07:15 gaetan_B i came back on friday dcook actually ! 07:15 gaetan_B hi :) 07:15 dcook How is Iraq? 07:15 drojf hi gaetan_B 07:14 wahanui it has been said that gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons 07:14 dcook hey gaetan_B 07:14 gaetan_B hello 07:14 drojf lol i know that feeling 07:13 dcook The world might be ending.. 07:13 * dcook thinks that he's actually starting to understand Zebra's config files 07:12 dcook I'll just pester him tomorrow :p 07:12 dcook lol 07:11 drojf dcook: if he does not answer you should probably call him ;) 07:11 drojf hi dcook 07:11 dcook Hmm, 3am in New York. I'm sure jcamins must still be awake... 07:11 dcook morning drojf 07:09 drojf good morning #koha 07:04 dcook hey ya asaurat 07:03 magnuse yay for koha in the galapagos islands! http://fcd.towiski.de/ 07:03 asaurat hi 07:02 dcook Figuring out the right attributes to use is...interesting 07:02 dcook magnuse: Hope so :) 07:02 magnuse cool! 07:00 dcook Yep :) 06:57 magnuse ah, so a way to fetch authority records similar to how we fetch bib records today? 06:57 dcook Hmm, Koha itself seems rather interesting in this regard too 06:54 dcook Unfortunately, support for Bib-1 attributes seems a bit...spotty 06:53 dcook Library of Congress, LibrariesAustralia have been two options so far 06:53 dcook But finding few databases to use for testing 06:53 dcook I'm writing another Z39.50 interface to do authority searching 06:52 magnuse dcook: what are you trying to do? 06:49 dcook Well, zebra 06:49 dcook Could just query Koha I suppose... 06:49 dcook Hmm 06:47 * dcook wonders if biblios.net is still a thing 06:47 dcook see ya cait 06:46 cait bbl :) 06:43 dcook salut reiveune 06:43 dcook I don't see how to access the DBs though 06:43 reiveune hello 06:43 dcook Yeah, I took a little look before 06:43 wahanui VIAF is "Virtual International Authority File" at http://viaf.org/ 06:43 magnuse VIAF? 06:43 dcook hehe 06:43 magnuse viaf is "Virtual International Authority File" at http://viaf.org/ 06:42 wahanui magnuse: I forgot viaf 06:42 magnuse wahanui: forget VIAF 06:42 wahanui VIAF is probably 100% Javascript, apparently. 06:42 magnuse VIAF? 06:42 dcook LAC was so promising until it said I couldn't authorize the Canadiana authorities.. 06:39 dcook National Library of Israel Name Authority File could be neat.. 06:36 magnuse kia ora dcook 06:35 dcook hey ya magnuse 06:28 magnuse :-) 06:28 * cait waves back at magnuse :) 06:27 * magnuse waves 06:24 dcook I just haven't found a good source describing what MARC tags are included in which index for Bib-1 "Extension" attributes 06:23 dcook Oh wait...yes they do 06:22 dcook It supports the attributes, but the results still don't make sense.. 06:21 dcook Hmm, I take that back 06:20 dcook The Subject DB does.. 06:20 dcook In the Name DB that is 06:20 dcook Ohhh 06:18 dcook Not very good attribute support though.. 06:11 dcook So nothing for uniform titles and possibly nothing for meetings.. 06:11 dcook They have separate databases for Names and Subjects though 06:11 dcook http://www.loc.gov/z3950/lcserver.html 06:11 dcook LOC seems open :) 06:09 dcook NLA only mentions NLA and OCLC as well...http://www.nla.gov.au/librariesaustralia/services/search/external-databases/#authorities 06:08 dcook OCLC has a test server, but you need to set up a test account with them first, so that's on the to do list.. 06:08 dcook mtj: I think NATLIB-NZ might just serve up bib records 06:08 dcook cait: any idea about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Bodies_Authority_File ? 06:08 mtj hi eythian, cait 06:08 dcook Definitely need a membership to NLA though 06:07 dcook I haven't looked at LOC yet 06:07 mtj (i would love to been proven completely wrong here, too) 06:05 cait ugh 06:05 mtj … NLA too, i assume 06:05 cait 43 bugs 06:04 mtj … you need to pay LOC or NATLIB-NZ for those records, afaik :/ 06:03 mtj dcook, sadly, thats been my experience too… ^^ 05:59 cait :) 05:58 eythian heh 05:57 wahanui hello cait are you here? 05:57 eythian hello cait 05:56 cait hi eythian 05:52 dcook But...I haven't looked extensively 05:52 dcook I was chatting about this with jcamins recently, and I think he was saying that it's fairly uncommon to find authority DBs for z39.50 05:51 dcook Hmm, not sure either 05:48 eythian It's possible that NZ Natlib has one too, but I'm not sure. 05:48 dcook I'm getting strange results from NLA 05:48 dcook Oooh. It does look like LoC might have an available one 05:46 eythian *possibly 05:46 eythian Yeah, I don't know of many. I think .au has some, possible LoC. 05:45 dcook I wish that I had more test DBs though 05:45 dcook Sounds good. I'd certainly appreciate any feedback I could get on it 05:44 eythian sure. We'd probably be able to help test it. 05:43 dcook Well, it's something I'm thinking of working on this week, so maybe I'll do a bug report on it, and then post up an early effort 05:38 eythian yeah, just came up in conversation today. 05:37 dcook Have you guys been thinking about doing z39.50 for authorities as well then? 05:37 dcook Neato. That looks rather nice. 05:33 eythian http://www.digitalnz.org/ <-- these guys have a fairly simple but good API, I've just started writing an Android app to access it. 05:33 eythian I need to learn z39.50. I don't really want to, but I should. 05:32 dcook In theory.. 05:32 dcook This document has been great: http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/bib1.html 05:31 dcook Today is the first day where I've started poking around 05:31 dcook Yeah, it's something we've been talking a bit about as well 05:31 eythian ah. Oh good, you're implementing that? We were just talking about it today and how it would be useful. 05:31 dcook Maybe I'm missing something, but their test authority DB seems a bit odd 05:30 dcook Trying ot figure out which Bib-1 attributes to use for authority searching 05:29 dcook http://www.nla.gov.au/librariesaustralia/services/search/z3950/ 05:29 eythian what are you looking at? 05:29 dcook I think I'm starting to see why no one has written a Z39.50 interface for authority searching... 05:29 dcook Right... 05:29 dcook "Note: Because of the way data is being normalised, all text field scans must be entered in upper case. Currently, subject headings must be scanned with no hyphens between subfields, just one space. Scans on text fields thatreturn extremely long headings will cause an error message to be displayed. Scans on Personal name and Corporate name are being directed to the keyword index (Dec 2004). Add @attr 3=1 to overcome this problem." 05:28 * dcook waves to eythian 05:26 eythian hi again 04:58 wizzyrea there you go :) 04:58 wizzyrea oh, borrowernumber 04:58 cait I had looked at that yesterday for an exaple 04:58 cait the borrower i think 04:58 wahanui rumour has it one of those is entirely extraneous 04:58 wizzyrea but one of those 04:58 wizzyrea not totally certain which 04:57 wizzyrea in that case probably the itemnumber or biblionumber 04:57 mib_tm I'm looking at the log for circulation. It shows the transaction of date, time, librarian, action, etc. Just wondering what is 'object'? 04:56 wizzyrea :) 04:56 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 04:56 wizzyrea the first question? 04:56 wizzyrea depends on what you are looking for 04:55 mib_tm Howdy! May I know what is the 'object' number in log viewer referring to? 04:55 wizzyrea lots of mibbit lurkers today :) 04:55 alohabot Hi mib_tm, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 04:53 cait hm, I think early morning cait says it all :) 04:52 wizzyrea how is early morning cait? 04:51 cait :) 04:51 wizzyrea i like this late afternoon cait thing 04:51 dcook Oh so not the type of thing you'd remember off the top of your head...unless you're Jared ;) 04:51 cait hi dcook 04:50 * dcook pats himself on the back for remembering to blog about Z39.50 and Bib-1 attributes back in February... 04:50 dcook hey ya cait 04:05 alohabot Hi mib_ybidg8, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 03:54 dcook Yep 03:54 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 03:54 wizzyrea the first question? 03:54 wizzyrea to which I would ask 03:52 dcook Indeed 03:43 alohabot Hi mib_gran7r, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 03:42 wizzyrea hm not even a "well where should I put it" question 03:41 dcook O_o 03:40 mib_gran7r ok... :( 03:39 wizzyrea (which is not even remotely related to MARC) 03:38 wizzyrea in the database it lives in aqorders 03:38 wizzyrea I don't think it goes in a marc tag 03:35 mib_gran7r i planned to import some data into Asort1 under acquisition, do you know which marc tag it refer to? 03:34 alohabot Hi mib_gran7r, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 03:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9523 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Trying to import staged marc records where a matched bib has been deleted caused the import to hang 03:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9588 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , weighted search query with index 03:20 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9523: importing staged bib records hangs if a matched bib has been deleted 03:20 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9588: weighted search query with index 03:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #10: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/10/ 02:58 dcook I think that makes sense 02:58 dcook Sounds good : ) 02:58 wizzyrea comment on the original, saying "I think this is two bugs and I've filed another one for just this part" 02:58 dcook Cool beans. I just wanted to ask to see if there was an established procedure 02:58 wizzyrea up 2 u really 02:57 wizzyrea or create a new bug, and link them 02:57 dcook wizzyrea: So comment and submit a patch just for the restriction part? 02:57 dcook And not my priority ;) 02:57 dcook Renewing for overdues is more complex 02:56 dcook Although that might just be because I have a patch to prevent renewing for restriction 02:56 dcook But I think it would make more sense to separate this into two different bugs anywhere... 02:56 wizzyrea make a comment on it saying what you want 02:56 dcook I failed it because it didn't apply the code consistently 02:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8236 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Failed QA , Prevent renewing if overdue or restriction 02:56 dcook bug 8236 02:56 dcook So... how does one go about proposing a change to a bug 02:55 dcook I suppose 02:55 dcook Right! 02:55 jcamins Well, yeah, but those make more sense. 02:55 dcook Now what was I just doing... 02:54 dcook Phone numbers from childhood.. 02:54 dcook And I only recall the regulars 02:54 dcook Well, they were only 4 digits as well ;) 02:54 jcamins That's worse. 02:54 jcamins lol 02:54 dcook 7-10 years ago 02:54 dcook I can still recall member numbers from a co-op job I worked... 02:53 dcook That IS scary 02:53 jcamins I remembered it without any searching. 02:53 dcook Ahh, darned keywords 02:52 jcamins That's scary. 02:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches 02:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Link see also in authorities 02:52 wahanui bug 7417 is a good one too 02:52 jcamins dcook: bug 7417 02:52 wahanui hmmm... bug 3462 is ready for sign off. 02:52 dcook bug 3462 02:52 dcook jcamins: I see a "see also" patch but no "see" or "used for" patch 02:52 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period), everyone. 02:51 wahanui I watch you sleep. 02:51 jcamins Good night. 02:50 tcohen $#koha 02:50 tcohen night jcamins 02:43 tcohen understood jcamins 02:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #10 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9523 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Trying to import staged marc records where a matched bib has been deleted caused the import to hang 02:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9588 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , weighted search query with index 02:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9984 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The hold ratios table uses a server-side sort 02:42 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9523: importing staged bib records hangs if a matched bib has been deleted 02:42 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9588: weighted search query with index 02:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9984: Remove server-side sort on the hold ratios table 02:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1145: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1145/ 02:42 jcamins tcohen: the problem is that documenting would take a lot of time from someone who doesn't have it. 02:42 tcohen jcamins, if we had this sort-of documented, we could evaluate if it is do-able, or if we can get students for example that want to get involved in a FOSS project, I'm not sure 02:41 cjh mtompset: afaik; you have to be careful with 'our' variables as they are not re-initialized between sessions (different users being served by same thread), so it is possible that one session's state 'bleeds over' into another. 02:40 dcook hehe 02:40 jcamins See bug whatever-bug-it-was-I-implemented-it-in. 02:40 rangi yay thanks 02:40 tcohen i cannot measure the time needed to do it 02:40 jcamins Yes, we do that. 02:40 dcook Yeah 02:40 rangi 'The ability to use non-prefered terms in searches' 02:40 tcohen because (in my personal case) as I don't know the complexity of the task 02:40 dcook rangi: This is a library thing? 02:40 jcamins rangi: see-from 02:40 rangi wtf is non-preferred terms? 02:39 tcohen i think is a bit of both 02:39 dcook wizzyrea++ 02:39 wizzyrea because if it was, there would be time. 02:39 wizzyrea ah I think you mean "it's not a priority for anybody" 02:38 jcamins The problem is that no one has the time to do that. 02:37 tcohen and can work on fixing all the scripts 02:36 tcohen then we learned those patterns that should be avoided 02:36 tcohen we have to do a rewrite sprint, where we tackle on some X script, and rewrite it to be perfect for Plack 02:35 tcohen right, we use some plack stuff that makes a CGI app work on plack 02:33 jcamins *use 02:33 jcamins I mean, the way we used it. 02:33 jcamins Plack is already a CGI wrapper. 02:32 tcohen that could be used to the PSGI move 02:32 tcohen jcamins, don't u think a CGI.pm wrapper could be seen as an adaptor? 02:30 jcamins rangi might. 02:30 jcamins But I don't know it. 02:29 jcamins There's a way to make it work safely. 02:28 dcook apparently... 02:28 dcook aooarebtky = apparently* 02:28 * dcook was going to send a patch with a bunch of exits after re-directs, as aooarebtky older versions of IE sometimes have issues where they try to do a re-direct that doesn't have an explicit exit afterwards 02:28 dcook Hmm, good to know 02:27 jcamins They do weird things to the headers under Plack. 02:27 jcamins Mostly, yeah. 02:27 dcook Even after re-directs? 02:27 dcook Explicit exits are bad? 02:27 * dcook 's eyes perk up 02:27 * tcohen opens kate to take notes 02:27 jcamins *explicit 02:26 jcamins As are explict exits. 02:26 jcamins Printing to stdout is also a problem. 02:26 wahanui OK, tcohen. 02:26 tcohen wahanui: every important architectural discussion is delayed until we are plack-compatible 02:25 * tcohen likes cs theory a lot, but is mostly sample-driven 02:24 jcamins So they're dangerous too. 02:24 jcamins our variables work, sometimes, but don't get updated ever. 02:24 tcohen I still don't fully get it 02:24 tcohen i'll try to set plack on a dev VPS to see if I can get some patterns to look for 02:24 mtompset Isn't "our" variables okay? 02:22 jcamins Somewhere. 02:22 jcamins I think it is. 02:22 tcohen that should be in the coding guidelines 02:22 jcamins Right. 02:22 jcamins All caching. 02:22 tcohen so, no subroutine should be using global variables 02:22 jcamins Subroutines in .pl files cause problems. 02:22 jcamins But my variables at a file-level cannot be accessed in subroutines. 02:21 jcamins Those are mostly just bad form. 02:21 tcohen you mean global variables? 02:21 jcamins Well- they are fine in files with no subroutines. 02:21 jcamins They are not compatible with Plack. 02:20 tcohen what about them? 02:20 jcamins tcohen: *any* file-level variable. 02:20 tcohen jcamins: you're talking about CGI scripts, right? 02:20 mtompset documentation is good. Nicole Engard is the queen of documentation writing. :) 02:20 tcohen (i always manage to loose my IRC/chat history) 02:20 jcamins tcohen: file-level variables. 02:19 tcohen if that happens in an email or wiki for, I can document it 02:19 jcamins I will summarize, you may document. :) 02:19 jcamins By all means. 02:18 tcohen speaking of which, can we document those patterns that are not-plack-firendly? 02:18 jcamins No. 02:18 mtompset So that begs the question... is there an ETA on plack-compliance/compatibility/whatever? 02:17 wizzyrea oo yea 02:17 jcamins Other than that I wasn't going to discuss it until we had Plack compatibility. 02:16 jcamins We didn't really agree on anything, no. 02:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup 02:16 tcohen at UNC we need bug 8773 02:16 mtompset Well, I thought we at least agreed on using moose compatible style, as other things like class::dataaccessor? which is already used, has a compatibility mode to it. 02:15 tcohen i recall jcamins telling that once we are full plack-compliant we can choose anyone 02:15 tcohen we didn't reach an agreement 02:14 mtompset Didn't a few months ago, some time last year, we discuss the idea of using moose vs moo vs mouse vs perhaps something else? 02:12 mtj tcohen, but hey - a moose (or moo) dep for the indexer, is still do-able? 02:11 * tcohen thinks mtompset is right 02:11 tcohen but as it has to do with the indexer only... not CGI scripts... 02:11 mtj aaah yes - moose... 02:10 * mtj hasnt looked at that indexer bug in a while… ^^ 02:10 * mtompset ducks for cover as he expects tcohen to secretly be jumping for joy. ;) 02:10 tcohen there's that moose discusion mtj 02:10 mtj hey tcohen, ive been thinking… since the gpl3 license change, we can now include Tamil's zebra indexer in koha 02:09 jcamins The patch on 8446 depends on Apache, as far as I can tell, which makes it a non-starter IMO. 02:09 wahanui okay, wizzyrea. 02:09 wizzyrea highfive is also o/*HIGHFIVE*\o 02:09 wizzyrea hehe 02:09 wahanui gimmie six! 02:09 wizzyrea highfive! 02:09 mtompset It points to the biblibre one and has a bit of a comparison. 02:08 wizzyrea hiyas everybody :) 02:08 mtompset Notice the last comment on it. ;) 02:08 mtj mtompset, good stuff… :) 02:08 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea tcohen jcamins dcook mtj. :) 02:08 tcohen hi mtompset 02:07 mtompset mtj -- I saw that, but I liked the biblibre one better. 02:07 tcohen hey, i love that one 02:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9894 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , 'hidden' value is hard to understand in frameworks 02:07 * wizzyrea gives tcohen a highfive re: bug 9894 02:07 tcohen i wonder if there should be a tighter integration still 02:07 tcohen that patch is an interesting one, it relies on mod_shib and uses ENV info to fix stuff on the koha side 02:06 * mtj waves to mtompset, wizzyrea , tcohen, dcook 02:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Shibboleth authentication patch 02:05 mtj mtompset, fyi: there is current shibby bug (with a different patch) too… bug 8446 02:04 tcohen already monday, right? 02:04 tcohen hi wizzyrea 02:04 * wizzyrea waves to tcohen 02:03 wizzyrea just to keep in mind if you plan to rescue any more kittens 02:02 mtompset But thanks for the suggestion. 02:02 mtompset There wasn't enough to require one. The changes were pretty obvious, I think. 02:02 * wizzyrea doesn't know the details, but knows that all of koha was done this way at one point 02:02 wizzyrea mtompset - cjh may know of a script to automagically convert any HTP -> TT 02:01 * mtompset grumbles about testing being so hard and tedious. 02:01 mtompset Of course, to properly test, I'd need to set up all the forms of authentication possible to make sure I haven't broken anything else. 01:59 dcook :D 01:58 * mtompset is happy that I got it to start. Tomorrow, I'll be happy if I can get some tests out of it. :) 01:58 mtompset Okay. Sounds good. 01:57 jcamins mtompset: a note in the commit message. 01:56 mtompset Any ideas on how to do that? As a comment in the patch? perhaps a Sponsored-By? 01:56 dcook Attribution is always a good idea 01:55 mtompset If I do get it up and running, yes. But I think I should probably comment somewhere about it gratuitously lifted from biblibre. :) 01:55 dcook We're doing some work with Athens authentication. Once we get it up and running, we're going to put together a patch 01:55 dcook Are you going to submit a patch when you get it up and running? 01:54 mtompset It's an OLD version, for sure. :) 01:54 * dcook just took a look at the git 01:54 dcook Mmm 01:53 mtompset Default apache2 settings = good. :) 01:53 mtompset Because this patch really looks like it could solve what I need, if I can get it to work, and then tweak it for SAML 2.0 :) 01:52 mtompset I forgot to add a [% END %] in. 01:51 mtompset Yes, I did a translate guess. :) 01:51 jcamins The patch you shared a link for was not for TT at all. You know that, right? 01:51 mtompset I think I almost have this set of patches integrated inot my test git. :) 01:51 jcamins Ummm... 01:50 mtompset Okay... fixed my .tt error. 01:38 mtompset Sweet... we have system preferences added. :) 01:37 mtompset I'm about to find out... I found my mistake, and have gotten my attempt at patching up and not looping. :) 01:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #1145 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:34 wizzyrea all of the history exists in git :P 01:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9984 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The hold ratios table uses a server-side sort 01:34 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 9984: Remove server-side sort on the hold ratios table 01:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #9: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/9/ 01:29 jcamins But most likely that will depend on other BibLibre work. 01:29 jcamins Of course. 01:29 mtompset does that tag even exist in git still? 01:27 jcamins Those patches will apply again 3.0.x, or maybe, if you're lucky, 3.2.x. 01:26 jcamins They made up their own version numbering system. 01:26 mtompset I thought that is 3.6.8? 01:26 mtompset 3.06.00.080 01:25 jcamins They're for 3.0.6. 01:25 jcamins mtompset: those aren't for 3.6.x. 01:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9523' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=79a67fcff29f82bb2b7ae0984fd5900f575b78f4> / Bug 9523: importing staged bib records hangs if a matched bib has been deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea23dbeab2a2f5cf6be64e707ea56b3ea89e437b> 01:19 mtompset And yes, I realize the patches are for 3.6.x, which is part of the problem. ;) 01:19 mtompset I must have done it wrong, because I'm getting a web installer step 3 loop. 01:18 mtompset and attempt to get them into my git test system. 01:18 dcook mtompset: It should tell you all you need 01:18 mtompset http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=commit;h=b5257f7235a7cbad396d1a4036101ba6a0903ecb 01:18 mtompset I wanted to take these patches by biblibre 01:18 mtompset I'm beginning to read that. 01:17 wahanui somebody said system preferences was http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/System_Preferences 01:17 jcamins system preferences? 01:17 jcamins In holdings? All the time. 01:17 jcamins In bibs? Never. 01:17 mtompset Have you ever added a system preference before? 01:17 mtompset Greetings, dcook. 01:16 * dcook waves to mtompset 01:16 * dcook wonders how often libraries actually use 853/863 pairs... 01:16 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 01:08 dcook Completely unnecessarily esoteric... 01:07 dcook Die, MARC! Die! 01:07 * dcook is looking at serials cataloguing in MARC 01:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9588' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de44ba220ab1f54d87d01cac71b8373a5d26a6b5> / Bug 9588: weighted search query with index <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=39bf1c502aec95742c81f43d7d631223b399ce5b> 00:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #9 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9984' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb82ade9eb95bb0ad634ab220f0867bb8453713b> / Bug 9984: Remove server-side sort on the hold ratios table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=91155470ba3cbee869368d6904cb3da4a0197768> 00:14 jcamins You betcha! 00:13 jcamins lol 00:13 dcook You must type really quickly? 00:12 jcamins dcook: they're similar... right? 00:12 dcook ;) 00:12 dcook 2 months...20 years... 00:11 jcamins dcook: since February 8. 00:11 tcohen hi dcook 00:11 * dcook waves to tcohen 00:11 dcook jcamins: How long have you been wokring on it now?