Time  Nick         Message
21:35 rangi        khall++ #beating me by 3 in sign offs
21:32 rangi        joubu++ #doing qa
21:31 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
21:31 tcohen       @later tell eythian: take a look at bug 10084
21:16 jcamins      rangi++ # nice e-mail
21:15 Guest2843    thanks a lot
21:15 Guest2843    I also konw I can still access the logs in case I need some other help
21:15 Guest2843    I have learnt many things these two days
21:14 Guest2843    ok, no issues, at least I I appreciate that fact that some people can helpothers in need, God will bless you all
21:14 jcamins      Therefore, there are fewer people around during the weekend.
21:14 jcamins      Often that is while they are at the office.
21:14 jcamins      People are on IRC when they are on IRC.
21:14 jcamins      No one here gets paid to be here.
21:14 jcamins      Most don't.
21:13 Guest2843    oh, so this forum do not work on weekends?
21:13 jcamins      Just a reminder that it's the weekend tomorrow.
21:12 Guest2843    I will be back tomorrow after my server has been installed fresh
21:12 Guest2843    I also appreciate everyone that has helped me since yesterday on this forum, Thanks to you all and have a wonderful weekend
21:11 jcamins      Good luck.
21:11 Guest2843    Thanks so much jcamins, I really appreciate all the help you have given me
21:09 Guest2843    yes, I will ask my host to re-install the server for me, that way I can be sure that everything will be fresh
21:08 jcamins      Okay, in that case all I can conclude is that you have some other problem with your system.
21:08 Guest2843    yes I did
21:08 Guest2843    that's the new user I just created
21:08 jcamins      And you set the user and password?
21:07 Guest2843    root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db kohlib  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'khuser'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
21:07 jcamins      You may have to come up with a new name, because of the "User khlib-koha already exists" issue.
21:06 Guest2843    ok, thanks
21:06 jcamins      Just try running koha-create
21:06 Guest2843    do I bow change to this user and try creating new instance?
21:05 Guest2843    jcamins, thanks I have created new user and added it to /etc/mysql/koha-common
20:55 jcamins      less marc
20:55 wahanui      http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800
20:55 rangi        we should use more MARC
20:53 Guest2843    I will try that now
20:52 Guest2843    yes I can login to MYSQL
20:48 jcamins      If you are able to log in to MySQL you could set up a new user with full privileges on everything and put that one in /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf
20:47 Guest2843    I guess as much too
20:47 jcamins      I have no idea what the problem is, but it sounds like your system is completely messed up.
20:47 jcamins      Hm.
20:47 Guest2843    root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db khlib  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
20:47 Guest2843    Now I got to the point again:
20:45 jcamins      I suggest choosing a differenct instance name, like khlib
20:45 jcamins      That means that either you'll have to do some manual cleanup, or choose a different instance name.
20:45 Guest2843    is this the right response?
20:45 Guest2843    sudo koha-create --create-db khlibrary  User khlibrary-koha already exists.
20:45 Guest2843    this is what I get now:
20:41 Guest2843    I have checked the two files and the contents are the same
20:41 Guest2843    i know sir, thanks a lot, I will do my best
20:40 jcamins      Sounds like a good idea.
20:40 rangi        i wonder if someone should send the call for proposals to code4lib and ngc4lib too
20:40 jcamins      Basically you should do as much as you can on your own because I have my own job to do.
20:39 jcamins      You don't need to.
20:38 Guest2843    yes, that's what I want to check now and I will inform you before I take the next step
20:38 Guest2843    yes, I am following the instruction...
20:38 jcamins      (but make sure you check that /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf file)
20:38 jcamins      ^^ those instructions will tell you what to do next
20:37 wahanui      i heard packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
20:37 jcamins      packages?
20:37 Guest2843    so koha is installed now?
20:37 jcamins      That's fine.
20:37 Guest2843    Unpacking koha-common (from .../koha-common_3.08.11-1_all.deb) ...  Processing triggers for man-db ...  Setting up koha-common (3.08.11-1) ...  insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebraqueue-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides
20:37 Guest2843    I got this error:
20:36 ebegin       e
20:36 ebegin       thanks jcamins. it make sens
20:36 Guest2843    thanks for that... I am continuing now
20:36 jcamins      It displays that whenever you install, because you might be upgrading from an old installation.
20:35 Guest2843    ok
20:35 jcamins      No.
20:35 Guest2843    which means the old was not completely purged?
20:35 jcamins      Right.
20:35 Guest2843    Hello jcamins, now I am on installing koha-common, it displays that Configuring koha-common  ...   koha-common upgrade actions required
20:34 jcamins      Or Pootle.
20:34 jcamins      ebegin: I don't think anyone uses diff for PO files. They can be merged using POedit or the like.
20:33 ebegin       Hey guys, I have a question about how your are diff-ing your .po files... since a single modification changes so many lines in it, it's quite hard to quickly know what have changed
20:31 Guest2843    ok, thanks, I am re-installing them now
20:30 jcamins      Shouldn't be necessary.
20:30 jcamins      Nope.
20:30 Guest2843    Do I reboot the server after purging the two before re-installing them again?
20:29 Guest2843    jcamins,pls I have a question?
20:22 Guest2843    Thanks, I am preparing to do that now, will update you sir,
20:21 jcamins      That'd be my recommendation.
20:20 Guest2843    I will try and purge everything, re-install and then check the files you mention before I do anything else
20:19 Guest2843    oh, ok, That's another good point, never checked anything like that
20:19 tcohen       bye jcamins, #koha, nice weekend for all
20:19 jcamins      Check that the password matches what's in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
20:19 jcamins      /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf
20:19 Guest2843    sorry, I meant, Yes, both
20:19 jcamins      That's what I meant.
20:18 tcohen       koha-common.cnf
20:18 Guest2843    ues, both
20:18 jcamins      Check the file /etc/mysql/koha.conf
20:18 tcohen       purge the mysql-server package too
20:18 Guest2843    that's  why I am really confused
20:18 jcamins      That's odd.
20:18 jcamins      Hm.
20:17 Guest2843    But I have tried removing ans installing with sudo apt-get purge ... but all still gives the same error at the point of creating koha instance
20:17 jcamins      That's good.
20:16 Guest2843    No data, its a new installation
20:16 jcamins      I trust you don't have data in the Koha installation?
20:15 jcamins      I suggest you remove Koha entirely and start over, because that person seemingly screwed up your system.
20:15 Guest2843    yes, at the initial stage which did not work because the zebra server refuses to start, that was the reason for the re-installation which I am now doing myself
20:14 jcamins      Because your Koha instance should never be set up to access the database with the debian-sys-maint user.
20:14 jcamins      Did you have someone else try to set up Koha for you at some point?
20:14 Guest2843    that's the only one I know of
20:13 Guest2843    jcamins, I guess the initial conf file /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
20:13 Guest2843    i have mysql-server installed
20:12 Guest2843    yes
20:12 jcamins      Whichever one you edited. I have no idea.
20:12 tcohen       do u have mysql-server installed Guest2843 ?
20:12 Guest2843    ok, which of the config?
20:12 jcamins      Right, because you hand-edited the configuration file.
20:12 Guest2843    but it keeps giving that error message
20:11 jcamins      That's the right way to do it.
20:11 jcamins      That's good.
20:11 Guest2843    sudo koha-create --create-db ....
20:11 jcamins      Yes, you should use a user that has permission to access your Koha database.
20:11 Guest2843    so do I have to change user?
20:11 jcamins      How did you create the instance?
20:10 Guest2843    well, I just see that, I only login through SSH to my server and run the steps
20:10 jcamins      Why are you using debian-sys-maint?
20:09 Guest2843    I have tried every step I googled and each time and grant all privileges and tred again, the error comes back
20:08 Guest2843    ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
20:08 Guest2843    ok, will give you now
20:07 jcamins      What is the *exact* error message?
20:07 jcamins      Actually, there are two types of permission denied errors you could be getting.
20:07 Guest2843    I installed both koha and dspace on the server
20:07 jcamins      I don't think it will make any difference at all what set of instructions you follow.
20:06 Guest2843    Yes, DSPACE
20:06 jcamins      You're running other services on the same server?
20:05 jcamins      Ah.
20:05 jcamins      What is the exact problem you have been encountering?
20:05 Guest2843    I have been getting permission denied error ,
20:05 Guest2843    actually, I have tried but I always get stucked at the point of creating a koha instance
20:04 jcamins      And if you follow the instructions I pointed you at to the letter, they will work.
20:04 Guest2843    and when I discover those two, I decided to know if they work too?
20:04 jcamins      Koha isn't an acronym, so it needn't all be capitalized.
20:03 Guest2843    thanks for your opinion, I have just be having some hard times installing this KOHA stuff
20:03 Guest2843    ok
20:03 jcamins      ^^ those instructions
20:03 wahanui      packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
20:03 jcamins      packages?
20:03 jcamins      The regular installation instructions are fine, of course, but I always recommend:
20:02 jcamins      I'll let him know at some point.
20:02 jcamins      Thomas's instructions need to be updated.
20:02 Guest2843    2. http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.debian;hb=HEAD
20:01 Guest2843    Hello, has anyone tried these installation steps....  1. http://openlib.org/home/krichel/courses/lis508/doc/koha_installation.html
19:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10084 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , YUI path wrong in CCSR theme with packages
19:36 tcohen       bug 10084
19:13 cait-m_      hm
18:56 gmcharlt     [off] oleonard: consortial borrowing
18:55 oleonard     [off] gmcharlt, can I ask what NCIP support will be used for? Just out of curiosity.
18:55 gmcharlt     [off] but not quite at the point where we can put an an RFC
18:54 gmcharlt     [off] jeff: I can say that there's some interest in NCIP support that ESI is hoping to work on later this fall
18:54 tcohen       got my VPS, named debmaker ;)
18:50 oleonard     ...and I don't think we've really missed the integration NCIP promised.
18:50 oleonard     To add it was too expensive, so we never pursued it.
18:49 oleonard     My library was interested in it at one time because we thought it would make for better integration into our statewide resource sharing system
18:48 jeff         oleonard: thanks. and as for my followup question -- would any NCIPv1 support meet needs, or is nobody asking for it?
18:47 oleonard     I thought something useful was going to come out of the FulfILLment project, but nothing yet.
18:47 oleonard     jeff: Koha doesn't have any NCIP support
18:42 jeff         and a followup question, have libraries sought such support before? would it be a useful thing / is there a need?
18:41 jeff         having consulted the wiki, i think i have my answer, but just to confirm... does koha talk NCIPv1, especially the DCB3 profile (used for regional ILL / resource-sharing)?
18:38 jcamins      Yep. Now that you've done one, you'll be turning them out by the droves in no time. :)
18:38 ebegin       after 6 yrs or so in the Koha community. I guess the first one is the harder.
18:36 jcamins      ebegin++
18:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10083 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , In Transit string doesn't get translated in the staff interface
18:35 ebegin       bug #10083 - first patch ever... can you believe it !
18:14 jcamins      Right, but if YUI has a standard directory structure, we should use it.
18:14 tcohen       but packages make use of the system's one
18:14 tcohen       the difference is that we ship the yui libs
18:14 jcamins      If the other installation methods are putting the file in the wrong place, _that_ is what we should fix.
18:13 jcamins      Though I have to say rewriting the configuration files makes no sense to me.
18:13 jcamins      Yup.
18:13 tcohen       in debian/rules?
18:13 jcamins      $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/opac.css
18:13 jcamins      It should be *
18:13 jcamins      prog is hardcoded.
18:12 jcamins      I see the problem.
18:12 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @kohails: "There is still time to get your program proposal in for KohaCon13 in Reno, Nevada http://t.co/a6vT2TaJsa #kohails"
18:12 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @nengard: "There is still time to get your program proposal in for KohaCon13 in Reno, Nevada http://t.co/dJREhppKUX #kohails"
18:12 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "There is still time to get your program proposal in for KohaCon13 in Reno, Nevada http://t.co/8JteoRoJYP #kohails"
18:11 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
18:11 tcohen       bug 9052
18:11 jcamins      Because it works in 3.10.
18:11 jcamins      Yeah, that's a good idea. But we can narrow the problem down to something new.
18:10 tcohen       i'm testing master packages
18:10 tcohen       (related to how libjs-yui puts stuff on the filesystem)
18:09 jcamins      It works on 3.10.
18:09 tcohen       its a packages problem
18:09 tcohen       it is not the case for a standard or dev setp
18:09 tcohen       seems broken here
18:09 tcohen       the default ccsr theme setup
18:09 tcohen       the path to reset-fonts-grids.css and skin.css are wrong in the packages
18:08 cait-m_      typing bad on phone
18:08 tcohen       not templates
18:08 wahanui      templates are written in Template::Toolkit.
18:08 cait-m_      templates
18:08 tcohen       there's a problem with some css path
18:08 cait-m_      templsted
18:08 cait-m_      tcohen - english?
18:08 tcohen       anyone with Debian Squeeze around?
18:06 tcohen       (it looks broken at least on my 12.04 dev server)
18:06 tcohen       has anyone installed koha-common (from squeeze-dev) and enabled ccsr to see how it looks?
17:36 jwagner      Yep, that was it. Searching OK now....
17:23 jwagner      OK, thanks. I've asked our IT to update it.
17:22 jcamins      jwagner: that sounds like a reasonable assumption.
17:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8686 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Raise required version of URI::Escape to 3.31
17:09 jwagner      Is that likely to be Bug 8686?
17:09 jwagner      Undefined subroutine &C4::Search::uri_escape_utf8 called at /home/k32/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 1503.
17:09 jwagner      Hrmm.  I just updated my community code dev server, and am getting this error when I try to search:
16:15 tcohen       thanks
16:15 tcohen       it will build what I've HEAD pointing to then
16:15 jcamins      tcohen: if that's what you have checked out, yes.
16:14 tcohen       jcamins, will build-git-snapshot build HEAD?
16:13 bgkriegel    hello mtompset :)
16:12 jcamins      Exactly.
16:12 mtompset     Ah, the torment of doing a task you prefer not to do for a length of time you rather not consider.
16:12 jcamins      But I don't farm out any of the work for this client, so I'm sitting here, preparing labels.
16:11 jcamins      mtompset: not particularly, actually. I'm just doing labels, which is not one of my favorite tasks.
16:11 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update Novelist section
16:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #328: SUCCESS in 16 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/328/
16:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #328 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:10 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update Novelist section
16:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #42: SUCCESS in 15 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/42/
16:10 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update Novelist section
16:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #33: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/33/
16:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #42 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #33 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:10 mtompset     jcamins: Your day being unproductive?
16:10 melia        aaww
16:09 jcamins      melia: ugh. How can you torment me like that? It's already past noon.
16:09 oleonard     ...or afternoon ...or evening ...or night
16:09 melia        happy Friday morning!
16:09 mtompset     Greetings, bgkriegel and melia. :)
15:56 tweetbot     [off] twitter: @nengard: "@librarything do you have any #kohails libraries using LTFL? Looking for some samples to show."
15:50 reiveune     bye
15:50 nengard      asked on twitter :)
15:50 nengard      not finding any
15:44 oleonard     Thanks
15:44 nengard      let me see if i can find some mention of it
15:44 nengard      not off the top of my head
15:44 nengard      hmmmm
15:44 oleonard     nengard: What about LibraryThing? Do you know any with that?
15:43 nengard      http://catalog.losgatosca.gov/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
15:43 nengard      and
15:43 nengard      model.bywatersolutions.com
15:43 nengard      let me get the urls
15:43 nengard      and our model
15:43 nengard      lost gatos
15:43 oleonard     nengard: Can you give me an example of a library that has NovelistSelect enabled?
15:40 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Add OPAC and Intranet NumbersPreferPhrase prefs
15:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #327: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/327/
15:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #327 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:40 vfernandes   guys anyone know any ttf to use as font on koha PDF that supports iso 8859 and chinese characters?
15:39 gaetan_B     bye !
15:36 jeff         jcamins++
15:36 jeff         clrh++
15:34 clrh         bye
15:34 clrh         but good remark, I will do it
15:34 clrh         jeff: it is just a miss not a won't do
15:34 jeff         also, i didn't want to read the code for inspiration/etc without seeing a license on it first. :-)
15:34 cait         have anice weekend
15:34 jcamins      Have a nice weekend. :)
15:33 cait         bye clrh
15:33 clrh         week end holidays
15:33 clrh         I have to leave so have a good evening day...
15:33 clrh         but don't worry about that please ;)
15:33 cait         clrh: I think someone else then the originator doing the statement would be a bit odd or not? hm
15:33 clrh         ok
15:33 jcamins      clrh: no, not urgent.
15:33 clrh         if it's urgent
15:33 jcamins      And, of course, I'd like my non-Koha projects to have as compatible an API as possible too: http://demo.biblionarrator.com/doc/architecture
15:32 clrh         jcamins: you can add the gpl v3 and doing a pull request ;)
15:32 cait         shared_api++
15:31 jcamins      But if the license were something incompatible with EG, it wouldn't be possible to share.
15:31 jcamins      clrh: Jeff is working on a RESTful API for Evergreen, and compatibility is a good thing.
15:31 cait         clrh: maybe but it soon? it has come up here some time ago too and people are careful about those things
15:30 jcamins      jeff: GPLv3
15:30 clrh         jcamins: what was the true question behind ?
15:30 paul_p       (as new Koha things if I'm not wrong)
15:30 paul_p       I will say : GPL v3
15:30 clrh         seems logical to me actually
15:29 jcamins      I figured you would know. :)
15:29 paul_p       hey ! jcamins++
15:29 jcamins      We're discussing it on #evergreen, and that question came up.
15:29 clrh         someday
15:29 clrh         Yep I will
15:29 clrh         jcamins: you can fork it on github I updated it yesterday
15:29 jcamins      Yes you should. :)
15:29 clrh         we should add a little file ;)
15:29 clrh         like koha I think jcamins
15:28 jcamins      paul_p: Joubu: clrh: what is the license on Koha-RESTful?
15:27 druthb       QED
15:27 druthb       More formal logic:  cait does good presentations.  cait did this presentation. Therefore, it was a good presentation.
15:26 mtompset     Greetings, cait and druthb.
15:26 druthb       The presentation went well.  (No, I wasn't there.  But I know this.  It's cait, ergo, it went well.)
15:26 druthb       cait++
15:24 cait         well almost home, viting friends
15:23 cait         on my way home now
15:23 tcohen       cait++
15:23 cait         :)
15:23 cait         yes
15:23 oleonard     Did you do your presentation cait?
15:22 cait         koha++
15:22 cait         hi oleonard :)
15:19 oleonard     Hi cait
15:17 * cait       waves from a train again
15:14 nengard      oops
15:13 mtompset     nengard++ # thanks, that was half of my problem. opacpublic was the other half.
15:11 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn
15:11 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: link circ and fine rules to right section in circcontrol
15:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #41: SUCCESS in 15 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/41/
15:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #41 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn
15:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: link circ and fine rules to right section in circcontrol
15:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #32: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.8.x/32/
15:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn
15:10 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: link circ and fine rules to right section in circcontrol
15:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #326: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/326/
15:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #326 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #32 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:10 nengard      that's what i think i'm seeing
15:10 oleonard     nengard: They must be if they're not in the table that stores attributes and they're not in deleted_borrowers
15:08 mtompset     Something funky with the syspref settings, I think.
15:07 mtompset     (QA system running squeeze-dev)
15:07 mtompset     Hmm... why is the search area blank and a log in required now?!
15:07 nengard      What happens to borrower attributes when a patron is deleted?   ... are they lost forever?
15:06 * magnuse    wanders off
15:06 magnuse      or liw :-)
15:05 magnuse      tcohen: eythian might know
15:05 tcohen       )
15:05 tcohen       cdd
15:05 tcohen       (context 9052, reset-fonts-grids.xss
15:05 oleonard     Sorry tcohen no idea
15:05 tcohen       oleonard, do u know why sed-ing on the debian/rules instead of pointing stuff to the right place?
15:05 jcamins      I didn't even know that we had a syspref to disable logging in.
15:05 nengard      i think it's opaclogin
15:04 mtompset     Greetings, oleonard and tcohen.
15:04 mtompset     MY brain isn't working right now. "Logging on to the catalog has not been enabled by the library." -- What system preference is that?
15:04 tcohen       hi mtompset
15:04 oleonard     Hi mtompset
15:03 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
15:00 jcamins      3.2.0
15:00 jcamins      Oh, wait, no.
15:00 nengard      well i was bound to miss a pref at some point :)
15:00 jcamins      nengard: that sounds about right.
14:59 nengard      I just found a sys pref that I never added to the manual ... anyone know when HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn was put in to Koha? I see references to it in 3.4 release notes
14:58 oleonard     The LTFL markup in opac-detail is not valid. I wonder if it breaks things for libraries who use it.
14:56 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: make HomeorHoldingBranch clearer
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14:53 * jcamins    contemplates the label creator.
14:53 jcamins      Yay! No problems here!
14:52 oleonard     I don't have a problem with it
14:51 jcamins      I think they're just fine as they are, but thought I would comment on that to you, in case you wanted them to be different.
14:51 oleonard     True
14:51 jcamins      Red instead of yellow, and a much heavier font.
14:51 jcamins      oleonard: I was just struck by something about the login page: the error messages are styled differently than on other pages.
14:50 jcamins      tcohen: rangi has a list FIXME NOW which is a good start.
14:38 tcohen       ok, then is not me but anyone using packages
14:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
14:36 oleonard     Bug 9052?
14:36 oleonard     You're missing the YUI grid CSS files, or they're in the wrong place.
14:35 oleonard     I see what it is
14:35 tcohen       i've installed from packages and loaded/upgraded a 3.8 dump
14:33 oleonard     Of course I don't know if they have customizations, but theirs matches what I see on my dev system
14:33 tcohen       oh, thats pretty
14:33 oleonard     http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=blue
14:32 tcohen       i just found another site that looks like mine
14:31 tcohen       i have color.css and opac.css in my settings, but those are the default ones i guess
14:30 tcohen       don't know?
14:30 oleonard     tcohen: CSS customizations?
14:29 tcohen       oleonard: http://opac2.ceil.openils.com.ar/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=a
14:14 oleonard     Thankfully Overdrive updated their reporting interface and no longer require it
14:14 oleonard     You're lucky you don't use any services that force you to.
14:13 khall        I have 32 bit and a 64 bit vm's for compiling, now the 32 has ie8 and the 64 has ie9. good enough for me
14:13 vfernandes   guys anyone knows any ttf font file that aggregates all characters?
14:13 khall        oleanard, it's the first time i've used ie for anything in years ; )
14:09 oleonard     Now clone that VM and update one of them back to ie9
14:08 khall        It took me an hour to switch from ie9 to ie8 in my win7 vm, but at least I managed to SO 8264!
14:00 oleonard     Man, opac-detail is a beast of a template
13:55 vfernandes   there is any TTF to add to PDFs to support chinese?
13:48 tcohen       ok, i'll dig a bit on it
13:47 oleonard     It doesn't look that way to me
13:46 tcohen       ccsr
13:46 oleonard     prog or ccsr theme?
13:46 tcohen       did a simple search
13:46 tcohen       im using the current master packages on a demo site
13:45 oleonard     tcohen: Under what circumstances do you see "refine your search" at the bottom of the search result page?
13:45 wahanui      i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
13:45 tcohen       ok oleonard
13:44 oleonard     That redesign is for (I hope) 3.14 tcohen
13:43 tcohen       also, will this beauty make it into 3.12? http://content.screencast.com/users/oleonard/folders/Jing/media/341eaeb3-0eb0-4576-a766-3666722b30aa/Bootstrap%20redesign_%20OPAC%20user%20page.png
13:42 tcohen       oleonard, is it ok that the "refine your search" appears at the bottom of the opac on search result page?
13:37 magnuse      yay! ;-)
13:36 oleonard     Hey, we just re-implemented Drupal View blocks :)
13:36 HB           thx Magnuse ... have found some extra info on the web also i'm reading
13:36 oleonard     Link block1 to report1, block2 to report2, etc.
13:35 tcohen       we could have several widgets available
13:35 magnuse      it would be cool to have a built-in, configurable block/widget/thingy for "new stuff"...
13:34 magnuse      oleonard: yeah
13:33 HB           ok
13:32 oleonard     ...if JS-dependent, unfortunately.
13:32 magnuse      but i think fetching json from a public report is the modern way to do it...
13:31 magnuse      HB: rangi has a script here: https://github.com/ranginui/Koha-recently-acquired-books
13:30 * oleonard   wonders that happened to that "holds rewrite"
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
13:30 oleonard     ...and others have been "critical" for looong time... Bug 4045
13:28 tcohen       thanks oleonard
13:28 oleonard     ...although some of those are probably incorrectly marked as critical.
13:28 oleonard     Here's rangi's "FIXME NOW" saved search, for instance: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=FIXME%20NOW&sharer_id=1&list_id=59894
13:27 oleonard     tcohen: Search Bugzilla?
13:26 oleonard     Hi gaetan_B
13:26 gaetan_B     hello
13:25 tcohen       jcamins, is there a list of blocker bugs for 3.12?
13:13 jcamins      Probably not.
13:13 jcamins      No idea, sorry.
13:11 vfernandes   jcamins do you know if there is any way to patron cards support chinese characters?
13:11 HB           ok np i have time ;)
13:10 jcamins      Unfortunately, it's much too late for him, and the weekend.
13:08 jcamins      I don't have an example, but I think rangi might have done it.
13:07 HB           ok you got me some extra work :) thx
13:05 jcamins      Then the javascript would be to fetch the JSON for that and display it attractively.
13:05 jcamins      That's a report that would work.
13:05 jcamins      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#List_of_Items_added_to_catalog_in_last_30_days
13:04 HB           ok i try to find out what that is :)
13:04 jcamins      *can
13:04 jcamins      HB: you cn do a search, or you can use a public report and javascript.
13:03 HB           i did make a list manualy in the html but maybe it can be done automatic ...https://koha.inbo.be/
13:02 HB           the last 10 or 5
13:02 HB           well the ones that are added recently
13:02 tcohen       in order of cataloguing?
13:01 tcohen       'latest' meaning?
13:00 HB           like a list
12:59 HB           question ... is there a way to generate in the opac a list of the latest new works
12:59 HB           Hey Koha
12:50 * tcohen     hopes he can commit to the tab-completion work today
12:49 vfernandes   patron cards supports chinese characters?
12:47 marcelr      thx
12:46 tcohen       ok, back to work, let me know anthing else I help with
12:45 marcelr      well..
12:45 tcohen       heh
12:45 tcohen       we have a deadline for 6554
12:44 tcohen       but that would be another discussion
12:44 marcelr      yes
12:44 tcohen       np, I think we should remove outputing from that lib anyway
12:43 marcelr      will take a look
12:43 marcelr      thanks
12:43 marcelr      tcohen: i see your adjustment
12:43 marcelr      hi koha
12:39 huginn       tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 19 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <marcelr> it is good that we do not have a dashboard on obsoleted patches..;)
12:39 tcohen       @seen marcelr
12:33 tcohen       morning #koha
12:32 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:14 magnuse      hehe
12:13 khall        yep! I'm thinking about upgrading to 12 ; )
12:12 magnuse      khall: got your 9 screens fired up and ready to go? :-)
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12:11 khall        good day magnuse!
12:10 magnuse      bonjour khall
11:54 MikeC        At least I'm in now
11:54 MikeC        good advice. Thanks.
11:53 jwagner      You can log into Koha with that, but only use it long enough to create a proper Koha staff user ID and password. Then work with that login. Don't use the admin login inside Koha for everyday work
11:52 jwagner      look for lines starting <user> and <pass>
11:52 jwagner      but you can look there and try
11:51 MikeC        Found it. Thanks! I don't remember typing that password! :)
11:51 jwagner      not sure, it depends on how you did your install, and I'm not familiar with the newer methods
11:51 MikeC        This file? /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
11:50 MikeC        Let me check. Thanks
11:50 jwagner      MikeC, if it's the Koha admin login, you should find it in the koha-conf.xml file. Depending on how you did your install, it may be under /koha-dev/etc directory
11:43 MikeC        Can someone please tell me how to change the administrative password? I installed Koha on an Azure VM as a "proof of concept." I promptly forgot about it, until a few days ago. Naturally, the company wants to use it in production, but I can't find the password. I have SSH and root access on the VM.
10:46 vfernandes   patron cards supports chinese characters?
10:02 Guest2803    *around
10:01 Guest2803    Hello mtj, looks like you are still aorund
09:56 wahanui      i think no one is saying a word, soooooo
09:56 vfernandes   no one?
09:39 vfernandes   it's possible to have in patron cards more than 3 fields?
09:38 vfernandes   hi :)
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08:47 Guest2777    have a great day
08:47 mtj          cya
08:47 mtj          no probs :)
08:47 Guest2777    I appreciate all your help,
08:46 mtj          ...that should fix everything :)
08:46 Guest2777    thanks a lot for your great help
08:46 mtj          .
08:46 mtj          $ sudo apt-get install koha-common
08:46 mtj          $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server
08:45 mtj          $ sudo apt-get purge mysql-server
08:45 mtj          $ sudo apt-get purge koha-common
08:45 Guest2777    Thanks, will do just that
08:44 mtj          thats what i would do...
08:44 mtj          then, install koha-common, install mysql-server
08:43 mtj          try uninstall koha-common, then uninstall mysql-server...
08:42 Guest2777    thanks, have a great weekend
08:42 mtj          ok, see you next time :p
08:42 Guest2777    Thanks a lot mtj, will try what you said
08:41 mtj          hmm, i have to go now sammy
08:40 Guest2777    no problem , i believe you are correct
08:39 mtj          hmm, i no nothing about dspace, sorry :/
08:38 Guest2777    ok, so no issues?
08:38 mtj          dspace uses postgres, not mysql  - i think
08:37 Guest2777    so can you help with the procedure to do the backup? sorry, I am new to all these
08:37 mtj          ah, ok...
08:37 Guest2777    ok, that's what I am about to ask, because I also have dspace installed on the server
08:36 mtj          if you have some important data on mysql, etc...
08:35 mtj          but, please backup your databases 1st!
08:35 Guest2777    ok will try that now, thanks
08:35 mtj          $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server
08:35 mtj          $ sudo apt-get purge mysql-server
08:35 Guest2777    maybe, I have not done that
08:34 mtj          have you tried un-installing mysql-server package?
08:34 Guest2777    let me contact my hos support, I will come back for the installation
08:34 Guest2777    I appreciate allyour help
08:34 Guest2777    mtj, you have really tried
08:34 mtj          a very strange problem
08:33 mtj          hmm, sorry - i am out of ideas here… :/
08:33 Guest2777    sorry, *why, not while
08:33 Guest2777    if it could connect to mysql, while giving permission error when using koha-create....
08:32 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db test5  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
08:31 mtj          yes
08:31 Guest2777    I have to exit mysql first?
08:30 mtj          does that work? ^^
08:30 mtj          $ sudo koha-create --create-db test5
08:30 mtj          wow, ok....
08:29 Guest2777    it works
08:29 Guest2777    yes
08:28 mtj          does that work ^^
08:28 mtj          $ mysql -u debian-sys-maint -pYOURPASSWORD
08:27 Guest2777    mtj, i am waiting for you
08:26 Guest2777    ok,
08:26 Guest2777    I hope you guys will still be here to help
08:26 mtj          Guest2777, one moment...
08:26 Guest2777    Well, let me contact my host on this permission thing, I will come back if they are able to fix it for me
08:25 mtj          thats ok :)
08:25 Guest2777    ok thanks
08:25 Guest2777    sorry about that
08:24 * rangi      will delete that from the logs
08:24 rangi        you really shouldn't paste your password in here, it is publicly logged
08:24 rangi        hmm
08:23 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# ps -ef | grep mysql  root      4506     1  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe  mysql     4617  4506  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock --port=3306  root      4618  4506  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 logger -t mysqld -p daemon.error  root      4830  3169  0 12:16 pts/1    00:00:00 gr
08:23 mtj          is mysql actually running?
08:22 mtj          $ ps -ef | grep mysql
08:22 Guest2777    and I did everything the way it should...
08:21 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db adlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
08:21 mtj          $ sudo koha-create --create-db test4
08:21 mtj          yes
08:19 Guest2777    do I try to create instance now
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08:19 Guest2777    done
08:17 mtj          fyi, if you restart mysql after -  'flush privileges' is not needed...
08:16 Guest2777    will do that now
08:16 Guest2777    exactly, thanks
08:16 mtj          sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
08:15 mtj          mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'n4aSHUP04s1J32X5';
08:15 Guest2777    sorry, is flush privileges necessary
08:15 mtj          $ mysql -u root -p <password>
08:15 Guest2777    ok, let me do it that way now, thanks for your help
08:15 mtj          restaet *after* the GRANT command
08:14 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# mysql -uroot -p  Enter password:   Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.  Your MySQL connection id is 35  Server version: 5.1.66-0+squeeze1 (Debian)    Copyright (c) 2000, 2012, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.    Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its  affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective  owners.    Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to
08:14 Guest2777    no error, infact I can paste it for you here
08:14 Guest2777    I restarted mysql, granted all privileges, using the correct password in the file
08:14 mtj          did you get an error message after running the GRANT command?
08:13 mtj          did you use the correct password, from the file?
08:13 mtj          did you restart mysql , after?
08:11 dcook        All right. I'm clearing out for the weekend. See most of you next week ;)
08:09 Guest2777    the info on that page is very clear to follow and I did that successfully
08:08 Guest2777    That was the exact step I followed
08:08 Guest2777    do you think this was crested successfully, because I was expecting additional messages if it was created correctly
08:07 mtj          http://mirzmaster.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/mysql-access-denied-for-user-debian-sys-maintlocalhost/
08:07 Guest2777    but when I tried it earlier it gave permission error
08:07 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db adminlib  User adminlib-koha already exists.
08:06 mtj          ok
08:05 Guest2777    yes
08:03 mtj          have you looked in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf  , to  find the password you need?
08:00 Guest2777    do I  --restart mysql, then grant all privileges and then test again
08:00 mtj          so, you need to fix that first
07:59 mtj          yep, same error....
07:59 Guest2777    do I do that?
07:59 Guest2777    Please I really appreciate your help, let me do this again --- restart mysql, then grant all privileges and then test again
07:58 Guest2777    yes, same error
07:57 mtj          … you havent fixed your previous problem
07:57 mtj          if you get ': Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'' error...
07:56 Guest2777    ok, let me try again
07:56 mtj          $ sudo koha-create --create-db test3
07:56 mtj          $ sudo koha-create --create-db test2
07:56 mtj          $ sudo koha-create --create-db test1
07:56 mtj          so, try to make a new koha, then...
07:55 Guest2777    I have done that just now and yet no change
07:54 mtj          you have nothing to lose...
07:54 mtj          restart mysql
07:53 Guest2777    I have granted all privileges  but yet the error still comes up
07:53 Guest2777    yes
07:53 mtj          Guest2777, you still have the same error - you havent fixed it
07:46 Guest2777    please anyone who can help?
07:34 christophe_c hello #koha
07:21 Guest2777    do you suggest I re-start mysql?
07:21 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# sudo koha-remove admlibrary  Removing Koha instance admlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
07:20 Guest2777    I then try to remove and re-create it, then the error comes back again:
07:20 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db admlibrary  User admlibrary-koha already exists.
07:20 Guest2777    hello, thanks I was able to correct that and when I tried to create the instance, it give me this message
07:14 dcook        Love deleting en masse
07:14 dcook        :D
07:14 dcook        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git#Delete_your_Branch
07:03 mtj          etc...
07:03 mtj          http://brianoneill.blogspot.co.nz/2009/09/access-denied-for-user-debian-sys.html
07:03 mtj          http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8938187/error-access-denied-for-user-debian-sys-maintlocalhost-using-password-y
07:02 Guest2777    doing that... and also checking the link you just gave
07:02 mtj          http://mirzmaster.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/mysql-access-denied-for-user-debian-sys-maintlocalhost/
07:02 mtj          Guest2777, google the error….
07:01 Guest2777    ok, can you guide me on that
07:01 dcook        Or...actually..
07:01 dcook        Maybe uninstall mysql and then reinstall?
07:01 dcook        Don't know, Guest2777
06:59 Guest2777    pls is there anyone who can assist me further?
06:59 drojf        debian wheezy is supposed to be released 4th/5th of may. does that have any consequences for koha?
06:58 drojf        hi dcook
06:58 dcook        morning drojf
06:57 Guest2777    ok, thanks, hope someone else will be able to assist further
06:57 magnuse      Guest2777: i'm out of ideas i'm afraid
06:57 drojf        good morning #koha
06:54 Guest2777    exactly
06:54 magnuse      ah yes, it said it was already installed
06:54 Guest2777    I pasted the response when creating the mysql server some few lines above
06:54 Guest2777    It only tells me it was automatically installed
06:53 magnuse      Guest2777: did you set a password for the root user when you installed mysql?
06:51 Guest2777    so what do you suggest I do,
06:48 magnuse      sounds like you don't get access to create the database for the new instance
06:48 magnuse      hm, i've never seen that error
06:46 Guest2777    any help please?
06:45 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db admlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
06:45 Guest2777    Trying to create instance, I gett error:
06:42 Guest2777    root@sam2:~# sudo apt-get install mysql-server  Reading package lists... Done  Building dependency tree         Reading state information... Done  mysql-server is already the newest version.  The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:    dbconfig-common  Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 43 not upgraded.
06:42 Guest2777    hello, thanks so far, I got to the mysql server install, is this response correct?
06:42 dcook        Always nice to have some time
06:42 magnuse      thanks dcook - it's still in the very early stages - go live is in september
06:41 reiveune     hello
06:41 dcook        hope the migration goes well, magnuse :)
06:41 * dcook      waves to reiveune
06:34 Guest2777    ok, I will try that now
06:33 magnuse      install mysql and set up a config file, i think are the next steps
06:33 magnuse      so have another look at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian and do the rest of it
06:33 cjh          Guest2777: koha-common is now installed, you should be able to create an instance.
06:33 magnuse      if you get no explicit error messages it probably worked
06:32 magnuse      yeah, that's what i said: there is no "congratulations, you just installed koha-common" ;-)
06:32 Guest2777    Please what should I do now, there was nothing like "congratulations, you just installed koha-common"
06:30 Guest2777    soory I did not receive anything like that
06:29 Guest2777    ok, thanks, so what next should I do now
06:29 magnuse      there is no "congratulations, you just installed koha-common" ;-)
06:29 magnuse      Guest2777: that sounds about right
06:28 Guest2777    Please someone help me out
06:28 magnuse      dcook: just getting started... probably going to work on a migration
06:28 Guest2777    is this what I should get or Ishould still expect other messages after Setting up koha-common (3.10.04-1) ...?
06:27 Guest2777    Setting up libstring-random-perl (1:0.22-3) ...  Setting up koha-common (3.10.04-1) ...  root@sam2:~#
06:27 Guest2777    everything was going well and now this are the last two lines of the command - sudo apt-get install koha-common
06:26 Guest2777    Hello, I started the KOHA installation following the process as stated in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
06:25 dcook        How about you?
06:24 dcook        And now it's only 40 minutes until 5 :)
06:24 dcook        Earlier it was...authorities and Marc Org Codes
06:23 dcook        Well, at least I think it's a bug
06:23 dcook        Bug blastin'
06:18 magnuse      wassup?
06:15 magnuse      hiya dcook
06:15 dcook        hey ya magnuse :)
06:15 * magnuse    waves
06:13 * dcook      celebrates
06:13 dcook        One less template change
06:13 dcook        Thankfully, the "check out" tab in the patron record just removes the option without even needing to display another warning message
06:12 dcook        Making "CanBookBeRenewed" check to see if the borrower is restricted..
06:11 dcook        Oohhh
06:08 * dcook      crosses fingers
06:08 mveron       cait ++
06:08 cait         koha_community++
06:08 cait         and now it's breakfast time
06:08 cait         so all cross fingers for me please ;)
06:07 cait         had one in march too and now in april.... and will have one in may
06:07 cait         mtj: guess it's not only you
06:07 dcook        I was just about to say that
06:06 mtj          cait, is it just me…. or have you been doing lots of presentations lately?
06:03 cait         mveron:  :)
06:02 mveron       cait: Good luck!
06:02 cait         mveron: cross fingers? giving a presentation this morning :)
06:01 dcook        Although I almost never look at the FAQ...
06:01 dcook        And the FAQ has a good entry about that
06:00 dcook        Really does seem like permissions are often an issue there
06:00 dcook        Maybe :p
06:00 mtj          and… others have a snowballs chance in hell of helping anyone with zebra problems, thats not running koha pkgs
05:59 dcook        No offense to those who do more...you're stars!
05:59 dcook        I've thought about doing development from home, but 7.5-9 hours a day at work is more than enough of that
05:59 dcook        I might have to set up my home library and do just that
05:58 dcook        But yeah, from the user standpoint...I don't know why a person would use anything but Debian packages
05:57 dcook        I'm only somewhat familiar with cron :p
05:57 mtj          s/you/a person new to cron or koha/
05:57 dcook        I've never set Zebra up from scratch though
05:57 dcook        Indexing isn't too bad
05:56 dcook        lol
05:56 mtj          well, not you personally, david… :)
05:56 dcook        Oh yeah?
05:55 mtj          you have a snowballs chance in hell of getting zebra running/indexing without the pkgs
05:55 dcook        Of course, I'd have to experiment/learn to build packages before I could make a case for switching over to Debian
05:54 dcook        Especially for multi-instance admins
05:54 mtj          yep
05:54 dcook        Also just plain convenient for any administrator
05:54 dcook        mtj: Yeah, I was thinking that as I was going through the wiki
05:53 mtj          dcook, i think a big win for the deb packages are around n00bs and zebra problems
05:53 * dcook      waves back to mtj
05:52 mveron       cait: But does it any harm if I upload it to the de-CH?
05:52 mveron       hi mtj
05:51 cait         I tried that
05:51 * mtj        waves to mveron, cait, sammy, dcook
05:51 cait         but if you fix it, next update will overwrite
05:51 cait         we should fix htat
05:51 cait         yeah
05:51 cait         for the pref file?
05:51 mveron       while saving de-DE-prfe.po (for translation to de-CH
05:51 mveron       Pootle says: header field 'Project ID Version' still has the initial default value
05:50 mveron       I'ts OK :-)
05:50 cait         hope at least wlel paid? :)
05:49 mveron       Long time.. to much work...
05:49 cait         nice to see you!
05:49 cait         hi mveron :)
05:49 mveron       ...and good morning Cait :-)
05:49 mveron       Good morning #koha
05:37 Guest2777    Please I need help with KOHA installation, is there anyone who can help?
05:36 Guest2777    hello there
05:35 dcook        Now I know why everyone says to use Debian packages...
05:35 dcook        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages
05:21 dcook        Just about to Google a previous conversation of ours :p
05:21 dcook        I was thinking I was the only one too
05:21 * dcook      puts up his hand
05:19 cait         someone still there? :)
04:41 * wizzyrea   too
04:40 eythian      yeah, wanted to finish a document.
04:40 eythian      I think wahanui is already there.
04:40 wizzyrea     half past!
04:40 eythian      wahanui: is it beer o'clock?
04:22 dcook        bbiab!
04:22 dcook        Off to lunch with me
04:21 dcook        :)
04:21 wizzyrea     \o/
04:21 dcook        [off] On a non-Koha related topic, cheers to New Zealand for legalizing same-sex marriage!
04:20 bag          heya dcook
04:19 * dcook      tips his hypothetical hat to bag
04:18 bag          heya cjh
04:17 cjh          hi bag :)
04:15 bag          evening
03:51 trea         for they know not what they do
03:51 dcook        The bots became ops and quickly cast down their human overlords
03:51 wahanui      you are a Cylon, and they all have plans.
03:51 wizzyrea     wizzyrea?
03:51 trea         forgive us
03:51 dcook        And that was the beginning of the the end for the humans
03:51 wizzyrea     mua ha ha ha ha
03:51 cjh          heh
03:50 wizzyrea     oh maybe I can
03:50 trea         heh
03:50 eythian      alas, I can't op wahanui.
03:50 eythian      haha
03:49 wizzyrea     but only between certain hours
03:49 wizzyrea     eythian: it woudld be funnier if you said that and then made wahanui kick her ;P
03:47 wahanui      go back to bed, cait.
03:47 eythian      wahanui: cait
03:44 wahanui      Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
03:44 huginn       GERMS!!!!
03:39 dcook        Hmm, according to the help, the existing record matching rules aren't supposed to work
03:37 dcook        "'Required match checks' - ??"
03:37 dcook        I love Koha documentation sometimes
03:36 dcook        Mmm, there it is
03:34 jcamins      dcook: nah, just sample data.
03:33 dcook        I'm not going to stop saying it, wahanui :P
03:33 wahanui      i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
03:33 dcook        Interesting...
03:30 dcook        Hmm, would that be a patch on kohastructure.sql?
03:29 jcamins      And, yeah, it really should.
03:27 wizzyrea     ^.^
03:27 dcook        Liz, you're a star
03:27 dcook        Ahh
03:27 dcook        Yeah?
03:27 wizzyrea     you can add them, i thought
03:26 dcook        Hmm...the MARC import should include Record matching rules for other fields than just the ISBN
00:19 sammy2       from Nigeria
00:07 eythian      sammy2: from Zuid-Afrika, or Nigeria?
00:06 sammy2       I am currently trying to do a re-installation, will inform you when I am through so you can give me further help
00:06 sammy2       Hello wizzyrea
00:03 eythian      (new enough? ;)
00:03 eythian      wizzyrea: fix it please
00:02 eythian      wizzyrea: it's not working