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23:59 dcook :)
23:59 tcohen i'm bisecting a bug regarding charset encoding and translations
23:58 tcohen thanks dcook
23:57 dcook user's*
23:57 dcook Also a git users best friend
23:56 dcook https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-log.html
23:56 trea heh
23:55 wizzyrea eythian++
23:53 wahanui git tips is http://blog.apiaxle.com/post/handy-git-tips-to-stop-you-getting-fired/
23:53 eythian wahanui: git tips
23:53 wizzyrea i always learn such interesting things about git here <3
23:52 dcook tcohen: git log --before={2013-01-31} --after={2013-01-01}
23:47 tcohen ?
23:47 tcohen can anyone provide me a commit hash that was cmmited in january
23:37 tcohen you're right
23:37 tcohen i'm sorry, i meant wantarray
23:37 eythian <eythian> and list == hash if you choose to put it into one
23:37 eythian <eythian> there's only list or scalar
23:37 eythian <eythian> there's no such thing as a hash context
23:36 eythian and list == hash if you choose to put it into one
23:36 eythian there's only list or scalar
23:35 eythian there's no such thing as a hash context
23:35 tcohen it is used to detect if a function/method was called in hash or scalar context
23:35 tcohen eythian, i've just read your comment on wanthash
23:27 libsysguy1 so I'm off
23:27 libsysguy1 but now dinner is ready
23:27 libsysguy1 thanks for working with me on it
23:26 * libsysguy1 glares at his inbox
23:25 rangi you should a few more emails
23:25 libsysguy1 okay cool
23:25 rangi ill start the other ones
23:25 libsysguy1 okay cool, I'm going to pull my name servers off of them
23:25 rangi is where its at
23:25 rangi Next step: The registry has been informed about the transfer request.
23:25 rangi cool, yeah i think its just waiting for the registry to update
23:24 rangi you got an email eh?
23:24 libsysguy1 yes I do want to transfer...done
23:24 libsysguy1 it was easy enough on my end
23:24 rangi seems ok tho i might start the others
23:24 libsysguy1 hehe hi wizzyrea
23:24 * wizzyrea waves
23:24 rangi its still going
23:24 wizzyrea omg it's a libsysguy sighting
23:23 libsysguy1 jw how that transfer went
23:23 rangi yep whats up?
23:23 huginn libsysguy1: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <rangi> yep
23:23 libsysguy1 @seen rangi
23:16 * wizzyrea giggles
23:16 wahanui eythian is, like, great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem
23:16 tcohen ok eythian
23:13 eythian tcohen: OK. You'd probably have to poke through the source to work it out properly.
23:13 eythian also, there's no wanthash function in perl because it doesn't really make sense (although I could see the use)...you can return a list and turn it straight into a hash. Really, a hash behaves like a list when passing it around.
23:12 tcohen (of koha-create)
23:12 tcohen i got stuck because i don't fully understand the possible parameter combinations
23:12 tcohen been working a bit on tab completion today
23:11 tcohen oh, thansk eythian
23:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations
23:11 eythian (re bug 10041)
23:11 eythian tcohen: I haven't tested it yet, but I approve of the idea. I'll see about adding a signoff to it soon. Today hopefully.
23:09 wahanui what's up, eythian
23:09 eythian hi
22:23 wizzyrea mtompset: is that better on http://koha-community.org/download-koha/
22:23 tcohen http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze
22:21 melia I thought about making a patron attribute for borrowernumber and then importing the existing borrowernumber data, but it seems like that would need to be constantly updated and could easily get messed up
22:21 cait or staff id
22:21 cait we use it for student id
22:21 cait I think patron attributes is the only way
22:20 melia I actually wanted a rule to match on borrowernumber
22:20 cait melia: unique patron attribute and patron import that is
22:20 cait melia: it does work - i use it a lot
22:19 rangi yep
22:19 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian ?
22:19 wizzyrea because there are several and I always seem to get the wrong one.
22:19 wizzyrea which wiki page is "the wiki page for debian package installation"
22:01 cjh tcohen: sorry for my rambling, wasnt aware of the shorter form.
22:00 tcohen sorry cjh, network problem
22:00 melia well, not really. edveal discovered that if in patron attributes, you check off the box to make it a unique identifier, then that patron attribute will appear in the dropdown menu for patron import matching rules. (don't know if it works or not, but there it is!)
21:59 cjh didnt know it had a short form, neat.
21:59 cjh git bisect start HEAD commitid #HEAD is bad, commitid is good.
21:58 cjh git bisect start; bit bisect bad HEAD; bit bisect good commitid; # should match what you wanted above
21:58 tcohen (thx cjh)
21:57 tcohen i have a test script i plan tu run with git bissect run test.sh
21:57 bag ah rangi melia thinks she may have figured it out
21:57 cjh tcohen: if you look at man git-bisect there is a good example under 'basic bisect commands'
21:56 cjh tcohen: good is the furthest you go back, bad is the furthest you go forward (if those directions make sense)
21:56 cjh tcohen: after starting git bisect you need to make a revision as bad and good
21:45 melia darn. thanks anyway!
21:45 rangi not that i know of melia
21:40 melia is there a way to add a new matching rule for patron import (in tools)?
21:40 tcohen heh
21:40 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
21:40 tcohen rangi?
21:38 tcohen git bisect HEAD commitid?
21:38 tcohen limit backwards
21:37 tcohen how do I tell git bisect to limit its search at some commitid?
21:24 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:30 AM NZST on April 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
21:24 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
21:24 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.8°C (11:20 PM CEST on April 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
21:24 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:23 * cait waves
21:19 wizzyrea hiyas tcohen
21:18 rangi hi tcohen
21:17 tcohen morning rangi wizzyrea
21:16 wizzyrea bye :)
21:16 tcohen bye magnuse
21:16 rangi cya magnuse
21:16 * magnuse wishes all of #koha a good time of the day and wanders off to sleep
21:16 wahanui wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans.
21:16 cait hey wizzyrea
21:14 magnuse hiya wizzyrea
21:14 wizzyrea hello peeps
21:13 magnuse evening rangi
21:12 cait morning rangi
21:10 rangi dishing out bad advice all over the place,
21:10 rangi mtompset: argh is right
21:10 rangi morning
20:39 Dyrcona jcamins: Heh. I'm starting to question the wisdom of volunteering as a mentor this year.
20:39 jcamins Dyrcona: I think it's good that Koha didn't apply for GSoC while I was still RM.
20:28 mtompset That was regarding the tarball Paul's instructions.
20:28 mtompset ARG!
20:21 oleonard Bye #koha
20:16 oleonard More zebra advice on the mailing list from the other Paul...
20:13 mtompset Well, time to survive my wife driving to pick up our son. :) She just got her G1 (learners permit equivalent?) recently.
20:10 mtompset Optimist vs. Old-timers
20:09 mtompset what the 'o' means may vary?
20:09 mtompset a lot of communities start with 'k'.
20:08 mtompset ha = hockey association.
20:03 rambutan kockey, rather
20:02 rambutan kocky?
20:02 oleonard What is it with hockey and Koha? http://koha.com/
20:00 mtompset I just found another meaning for koha. ;) http://www.koha.ca/
19:54 tcohen pet project for today and tomorrow
19:54 mtompset SWEET!
19:54 tcohen yeap
19:54 mtompset You working on that?
19:53 tcohen ;)
19:53 tcohen soon you'll be able to do sudo koha-rebuild-zebra <tab>[options] <tab>[instance]
19:53 mtompset I don't have to remember what I linked the name as. :)
19:52 mtompset I use: $ sudo service koha-{tab} start
19:52 mtompset tab-completion is an awesome time saver. :)
19:52 tcohen i've been learning a bit about bash tab-completion today
19:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations
19:51 tcohen bgkriegel: thanks for testing my patch for bug 10041
19:50 bgkriegel hi tcohen
19:49 tcohen hi bgkriegel
19:49 bgkriegel and Hi all
19:49 mtompset You're welcome, tcohen. After all, it probably will affect me with people wanting other languages in the UI.
19:49 bgkriegel Hi mtompset. Thanks for your email. I'll write to you.
19:48 tcohen yes, I'll use his comment to support my bug report, thanks mtompset
19:48 jcamins tcohen: mtompset reported seeing the same.
19:48 tcohen s/latin/ascii/
19:48 jcamins I use CCL, QP, or PQF, depending on my needs.
19:48 tcohen has anyone noticed problems with non-latin chars on the staff login screen?
19:47 jcamins I also never use the search screen.
19:47 tcohen jcamins, i'm about to fill a bug on translation encoding problems
19:47 mtompset And when you click it, the "Home > Advanced Search" with an "Advanced Search" title.
19:46 jcamins I never look at the home page.
19:46 mtompset Yep. Right on the home page.
19:46 jcamins Do you know, I never noticed that.
19:46 jatara On one of the buttons.
19:46 jcamins Huh.
19:45 oleonard On the home page
19:45 jcamins It says "advanced search" somewhere on the staff client?
19:45 mtompset So, the pretty graphics should drop the word "Advanced" to be more consistent?
19:44 jcamins Librarians looking for "search" are looking for an advanced search rather than quick search.
19:44 jcamins And unnecessarily verbose.
19:43 jcamins Yes, "Advanced search" is redundant.
19:42 mtompset The staff client menu bar at the top only says "search" for a link to the "Advanced Search".
19:42 mtompset Oh, this "search" "advanced search" talk reminds me.
19:40 mtompset Greetings, bgkriegel. :)
19:39 huginn jatara: I've exhausted my database of quotes
19:39 jatara @jeff: Wow! I like your site.
19:27 oleonard [off] It's an important constituency to consider
19:27 jcamins [off] My UX research is basically limited to the non-computer literate individuals.
19:25 jcamins But feel free to ignore my ideas on user interface design in favor of actual knowledge about how users use interfaces. ;)
19:24 jcamins I feel like the navbar has smaller text for that reason.
19:24 jcamins Hmm.
19:23 oleonard One thing I like about having the advanced search link, etc. under the main search bar is that it reflects their importance: Search is more important.
19:23 jcamins Now that cait has suggested it, yes.
19:23 oleonard jcamins: So you would put the advanced search, etc. links right under the navbar?
19:22 jeff senator++ thanks!
19:22 jeff senator: oh, and having just boasted, i see senator answered already! :-)
19:22 jcamins oleonard: right.
19:21 oleonard The header being opacheader jcamins?
19:21 jcamins Awww!
19:21 jeff jcamins: regarding "more attractive" TPAC sites, I'm partial to our own. http://catalog.tadl.org -- be sure to toggle to kids' opac for whimsy. :-)
19:20 jcamins Two rows of nav buttons underneath the header.
19:20 oleonard I'm not sure I understand what you mean
19:20 jcamins But oleonard is probably a better judge of whether it's a good idea.
19:19 jcamins I like that design, as you know.
19:19 cait i should just leave that to oleonard :)
19:18 cait what if we had 2 navigation bars ontop of each other? and header on top top?
19:17 cait oleonard: if anyone can... it#s you :)
19:16 oleonard At some point I'll have to make the Cart and Lists buttons actually work... :|
19:16 cait vufind is pretty big in Germany
19:13 cait https://katalog.hmt-leipzig.de/
19:13 cait i think it's pretty cool :)
19:12 cait they do catalogs for several universities
19:12 cait it's a vufind project here in germany
19:12 senator Dyrcona: cool, we should get him to write that up for the list
19:12 jcamins oleonard: true. And I wasn't saying it needed to be changed right away, just pointing out something that bothered me in case you had a solution.
19:12 senator that's a nice looking katalog
19:12 cait and it already looks lovely :)
19:12 cait makes sense :)
19:12 cait yep
19:12 oleonard cait: I mean we really could do some testing,or at least surveying, before settling on a design
19:11 cait you know people want to put their library logos somewhere :)
19:11 cait oleonard: not sure that argument counts :)
19:10 oleonard Luckily the placement of the Cart button or the "extra" links are things which can be fairly easily changed
19:10 Dyrcona jcamins: senator: jeff told me how they did the lists of sliding books with iframes and hand-managed lists on Saturday after the Evergreen Conference.
19:09 jcamins Not sure how I got Michigan and BC confused, but at least you know what I wanted.
19:09 cait https://katalog.bibliothek.tu-chemnitz.de/
19:08 jcamins Dyrcona: senator: tadl is the one I was thinking of.
19:07 oleonard The CCSR theme gets around that problem by not letting people use opacheader that way ;)
19:06 oleonard True
19:06 cait I am still worried people put large pictures/banners in the opacheader section like they do now
19:05 cait the navigational like elemens
19:05 cait bring
19:05 cait and break the elemnts closer together I think
19:05 cait more visible
19:04 oleonard cait: Do you suggest that because you think they need to be more visible? Or because You'd like to make room in the nav bar?
19:04 oleonard cait: We could, but I'm not sure that makes sense there
19:04 Dyrcona jcamins: I think tadl.org is the prettiest. Ours is plain but uses something other than the stock colors: http://catalog.mvlc.org/eg/opac/home
19:03 cait I think they don't get too long in opac?
19:03 cait oleonard: could we move the card and lists down on the level of the breadcrumbs?
19:02 cait so we need some way to place 2
19:02 senator jcamins: jeff just doesn't want to boast: http://catalog.tadl.org
19:02 jcamins cait: agreed.
19:02 jcamins Dyrcona: do you have links handy to some of the more attractive TPAC sites?
19:02 cait and I think we can agree that we can't fit it into one toolbar?
19:01 cait and we ahve to find a place for everythin!
19:01 cait our opac can do too many things :)
19:01 cait i think the problem is
19:01 jcamins cait: yeah, that's why I condlued it wasn't Sitka.
19:01 cait that looks like the old one too: http://catalogue.bclibraries.ca/opac/en-CA/skin/BBI/xml/rresult.xml?rt=keyword&tp=keyword&t=test&ft=&l=100&d=2&f=&ol=100
19:00 oleonard I don't think Ohio's regional Evergreen system counts: http://www.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/home
18:59 jcamins jeff: do you have links handy to some of the more attractive TPAC sites?
18:57 jcamins It's a consortium.
18:57 jcamins Maybe not Sitka.
18:57 jcamins Hm.
18:57 oleonard Sitka?
18:56 jcamins cait: Sitka has done some nice things.
18:56 cait hehe
18:56 oleonard I wonder if their customers' top request is to change that.
18:56 cait h how does the newer evergreen pac look like?
18:56 oleonard Huh, I didn't realize vufind used "Book Bag"
18:55 cait to fit in
18:55 cait we have lots of options
18:55 cait ok
18:54 jcamins I seem to recall feeling the same about Blacklight.
18:54 jcamins Agreed.
18:53 cait koha is prettier
18:53 cait i just noticed that I don't like the standard vufind so much
18:53 jcamins Ouch.
18:53 jcamins lol
18:53 cait http://vufind.org/demo/Search/Results?lookfor=der&type=AllFields&submit=Find
18:52 * cait looks at other opacs
18:52 oleonard jcamins: Just making a comment about how responsive grids classify things these days: http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#responsive
18:50 jcamins Depending.
18:50 jcamins oleonard: or "public terminals."
18:50 cait hehe
18:49 oleonard jcamins: Nowadays that is referred to as a "small tablet" ;)
18:49 cait not really
18:49 cait but they are not links
18:49 cait i was thinking about that
18:49 jcamins Otherwise Koha doesn't fit well on a 1024x768 monitor.
18:48 jcamins I usually move them into the bar that I don't like: demo.cplibraries.com
18:48 cait and don't look so good then
18:48 cait because when you don't have much room they get pushed down easily right now
18:48 cait i like moving it out of the search bar - the buttons
18:48 * cait nods
18:47 oleonard ...but make it look nicer than in that screenshot
18:47 oleonard CCSR eliminates the "Search" label on the search bar but I tend to think we should keep it.
18:47 cait i know
18:47 oleonard opacheader is optional. It only shows because I have something in the pref.
18:46 cait but with the opacheader/log between cart/lists and the search it might be harder to spot than it is now
18:46 cait I really like the search bar
18:46 cait I fear the cart and lists might get overlooked
18:45 cait couldn't we find some students or so doing a usability study for us? :)
18:45 cait navigation is hard
18:44 oleonard cait: It would give more room for the search bar, which is nice. On the other hand with the cart and lists links up at the top there is already more room.
18:44 cait and I like how clean it is :)
18:43 cait just trying to figure out how this would look like for a library :)
18:43 mtompset There, tcohen, I hope that improves that. :)
18:43 oleonard I don't know cait, it's just an idea
18:43 cait so the library's logo would you always in opacheader now?
18:43 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
18:43 mtompset @later tell wizzyrea That "Current Release" section on http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ needs more tweaking too. The debian link 3.4?! And it might be an idea to remove "the Debian" from the Ubuntu line description.
18:41 oleonard ..but the question applies to the current OPAC design also
18:41 cait oleonard: do we tell you often enough how awesome you are? :)
18:41 oleonard More Bootstrap OPAC work: http://screencast.com/t/IHrchRQFx1r
18:41 cait hm where is the link? :)
18:41 oleonard Of course I've worked with it too long to really know, but I would consider it a detail that would be mostly overlooked until someone went looking for more...something.
18:40 jcamins Am I the only one?
18:39 jcamins At least, it didn't make immediate sense to me the first time I sat down with a Koha OPAC.
18:39 jcamins I don't think it makes immediate sense to a patron now, either.
18:38 jcamins Oh, I know.
18:38 mtompset Hmm... Because that's what was there.
18:37 jcamins oleonard: yeah.
18:37 tcohen I mean, its correct, but also confusing for a non-tech user
18:36 tcohen mtompset: i'd remove "Debian packages on Ubuntu" and put "packages on Ubuntu". Don't understand why pointing packages where built for Debian at all
18:36 wahanui the links are only based on the $9.
18:36 oleonard The links?
18:36 oleonard Which bar?
18:33 jcamins That bar isn't immediately clear to me the way the rest of the page is.
18:32 jcamins I feel like there should be some way to rethink those links so they make more sense.
18:31 jcamins Hm.
18:29 oleonard We would have to hide them in a menu, and I don't think that would be discoverable enough for the average patron
18:27 jcamins The one thing I question is whether or not the Advanced search/authority search/etc. links couldn't somehow be consolidated and put on the nav bar.
18:27 oleonard I'm *not* sure, that is.
18:27 oleonard I'm sure about the logo in the nav bar... I like that it gives more room for the search bar, but I wonder if libraries will miss that option for customization
18:26 jcamins oleonard++ # classy!
18:25 oleonard More Bootstrap OPAC work: http://screencast.com/t/IHrchRQFx1r
18:20 jcamins Also, side thought, there should be someone in the US with write access to the website so I don't have to pester wizzyrea.
18:19 jcamins Hey! I managed to type that entire message without the connection dying!
18:17 mtompset jcamins++
18:17 mtompset Thanks, jcamins.
18:15 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:15 jcamins @later tell wizzyrea could you please change the link on koha-community.org/download-koha/ from {WIKI}/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
18:15 tweetbot [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Linking Authorities in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/dgOLa7RPu9"
18:15 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Linking Authorities in Koha 3.10 http://t.co/JEBmTI9j3p #kohails"
18:14 mtompset I'd like to to point to either http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu
18:12 mtompset "Ubuntu users can find instructions on our wiki for how to use the Debian packages on Ubuntu" points to http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Lucid_using_Koha_packages
18:12 magnuse anyone heard of or tried https://github.com/zemkat/Normac ?
18:12 mtompset Because the link for ubuntu instructions points to a wiki page that has "outdated" box warning at the top.
18:11 oleonard Why?
18:10 mtompset Who has access (i.e. can make changes) to http://koha-community.org/download-koha/?
18:09 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:42 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add privacy table values to faq
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16:16 reiveune1 bye
16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations
16:07 tcohen bug 10041
16:04 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
16:04 tcohen @later tell eythian I wan't your opinion on bug 10041
16:00 tcohen is there a wanthash function in perl?
15:54 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 6 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi kf
15:54 tcohen @seen marcelr
15:43 tweetbot [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Sterling College Chooses ByWater Solutions’ Koha Support http://t.co/yPKoolFqsj"
15:33 vfernandes ok jcamins thanks anyway
15:20 jcamins But I can't help you troubleshoot now. The connectin dies too quickly.
15:19 jcamins *Koha
15:19 jcamins I was wondering about Kha.
15:19 jcamins Wow this connection is bad.
15:16 vfernandes zebra with apt-get, koha tar.gz download and install
15:16 vfernandes zebra or koha?
15:16 jcamins How did you install it?
15:16 jcamins You shouldn't need to if it's a clean install.
15:15 vfernandes so how I can update the files?
15:14 jcamins Yes.
15:13 vfernandes so it should be updated
15:13 vfernandes I installed a clean 3.10.3
15:13 jcamins If you used packages or followed the instructions they shouldn't get out of date, though.
15:12 jcamins vfernandes: all the files in etc/zebradb should be updated.
15:11 * gmcharlt_ tries to hug the entire country of New Zealand
15:08 vfernandes jcamins where do I update?
15:07 jcamins vfernandes: that usually happens if you don't update your Zebra configuration.
14:44 kf marcelr++
14:24 vfernandes *maybe is something related to DOM indexing
14:24 vfernandes may
14:24 vfernandes I don't know why this is happening with I try to update and save one authority
14:23 vfernandes :/
14:23 oleonard Sorry vfernandes I don't know how to help with that one
14:23 vfernandes oleonard maybe you can help me with this error: ZOOM error 114 "Unsupported Use attribute" (addinfo: "Koha-Auth-Number") from diag-set 'Bib-1'
14:22 oleonard Oh wait I think I got it working
14:21 oleonard I want to be able to define a block of markup in one place and embed it elsewhere
14:20 oleonard Anyone here familiar with T:T's BLOCK and PROCESS directives?
14:20 rambutan Yep, I'm looking for one
14:20 oleonard In that case I suggest a new IRC client :)
14:19 rambutan with thunderbird chat (this is a recursive complaint) you can never tell if you're logged on or not if people aren't chatting
14:18 oleonard Sorry rambutan it didn't work.
14:18 rambutan teest
14:16 kf magnus: should we put oclc connectiong thingy on the api page?
14:12 kf i couldn't translate that one, so I meant the other :)
14:10 tcohen the one of gplv3 or the one that says I need to lend some mates to my colleage?
14:09 tcohen that's my desk
14:09 kf well a bit of it, but I like the sticker :)
14:09 tcohen oh, i get it
14:09 kf just that :) it's nice to see someone's desk :)
14:08 tcohen meaning?
14:08 kf hm peek
14:08 kf and nice peak into your office :)
14:08 kf tcohen: yum :)
14:07 jatara Good morning/afternoon/evening, y'all!
14:03 tcohen :-D
14:03 * jcamins leaves
14:02 jcamins Ah! Don't use root! :P
14:02 tcohen kf, we have the cookies sort-of covered here http://snag.gy/8oeqh.jpg
14:01 HB <oleonard>: thx is white and some small changes done to the logo (the layout people are keeping an eye on me :) )thx for the tips ++ for the help
13:51 kf good night mtj :)
13:45 * mtj waves good night, x
13:45 mtj kf: yeah, just finished a big upgrade...
13:44 magnus sterling_college++
13:43 kf mtj: shouldn't you be sleeping?:)
13:43 mtj HB: woah, nice opac!
13:42 tweetbot [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Sterling College Chooses ByWater Solutions’ Koha Support http://t.co/5oeMoCpPZ7 #kohails"
13:38 kf for making me laugh :)
13:37 magnus kf: for distracting you?
13:37 kf drojf++ magnus++ oleonard++ :)
13:35 HB the url (opac) i was late lol
13:34 HB jcamins: nice one
13:33 drojf :)
13:33 magnus ...which is cool, btw ;-)
13:33 drojf yay!
13:32 magnus or embed some lolcat vids with the new html5 thingy
13:31 drojf you could MARC up some LOLcats to show them in koha
13:30 magnus and have lots of time for questions and discussion!
13:30 kf plan is to show koha too, 2 hours only slides would be boring
13:29 drojf kf: 2 hours? wow
13:29 kf oleonard: awesome :)
13:23 druthb LOL
13:23 wahanui cait is, like, qam, not your secretary
13:22 druthb wahanui: cait?
13:22 druthb hm.
13:22 wahanui kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert.
13:22 druthb wahanui: kf?
13:22 jcamins Hehe.
13:22 oleonard kf: Slide 1: "Koha is awesome." Drop the mic, show LOLcats for 119 minutes.
13:22 HB ok
13:21 wahanui kf should be writing slides
13:21 magnus slides?
13:20 * magnus sends kf a landslide
13:19 oleonard HB: "#members" would only affect the color of text within the #members <div>
13:19 oleonard HB: "#members a" affects the color of the links within the #members <div>
13:18 tweetbot [off] twitter: @Hyperboreasrl: "L'evento del 19 aprile si avvicina... intanto scoprite le caratteristiche del #software #kohails per la #biblioteca http://t.co/TR5ge77s4T"
13:18 druthb for talking about Koha a lot!
13:17 kf i get karma for not having done my slides?
13:17 druthb kf++
13:16 HB what is the difference between the #members a and #members color the second one did not change annything (or i dont see it)
13:12 vfernandes authorities still not working :/
13:12 kf I have to talk 2 hours about koha :)
13:11 kf yeah it never ends
13:11 * oleonard sends kf all the slides
13:11 oleonard kf: Again?!
13:10 * kf needs some slides!
13:10 kf ?
13:09 magnus man, i need some e's!
13:08 * druthb doesn't have a spare E to give to magnus.
13:07 magnus and with good reason, i'd say
13:07 * jcamins panics.
13:07 jcamins magnus: OH NO! SOMEONE STOLE YOUR E!
13:05 magnus waiving some fines, perhaps?
13:04 * libsysguy waives back at magnus
13:00 * magnus waves to libsysguy
13:00 jcamins HB: this is one of my favorite OPACs: http://catalogue.bu.univ-rennes2.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=smith&searchOn=OPAC
12:58 libsysguy well…only a *tiny* bit :p jk jk
12:57 kf ah right... now you appreciate koha more :)
12:57 libsysguy kf**
12:57 libsysguy how have you been lf
12:57 libsysguy :p
12:57 libsysguy CGI =~ death
12:56 libsysguy I thought some parts of the Koha codebase were bad…that is until I ran across my first bit of legacy CGI code
12:56 libsysguy barely
12:56 libsysguy :)
12:56 kf he is alive!
12:55 libsysguy morning everyone
12:53 HB but good tip maybe i should do that
12:52 HB for now :)
12:51 HB ehm we dont have plans there
12:50 jcamins Are you going to change the color scheme on the search results too?
12:50 jcamins I like the header!
12:45 HB i have to do the hover over text also probably
12:45 gaetan_B1 thanks kf, il try this :)
12:44 oleonard And #members { color: #FFF; } too if you want plain text white too
12:44 oleonard #members a { color: #FFF; }
12:44 kf HB: looks really good so far :) you will get there
12:43 HB our layout peeps want the text white at the top but i'm not there yet lol (searching) ow gonna check thx for the tip :)
12:43 oleonard You can change the color of that link using #members a {}
12:43 HB :)
12:42 oleonard Looks very nice HB
12:42 HB im doing some css editing for our koha the text on the rigt top corner ... what id does that txt have ... i'm not completely sure ... untill now my new look is like this https://koha.inbo.be/
12:41 oleonard Hi HB
12:39 HB Hey koha
12:39 alohabot Hi mib_6dxoru, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
12:38 kf i think it could be done in poedit - maybe just check the menus, I can't right now, sorry
12:38 kf not in pootle :)
12:37 kf there might be in fact
12:37 gaetan_B1 but i can do a substitution with vim
12:37 kf hm
12:37 kf oh in poedit
12:37 gaetan_B1 kf: ok i thought there was a way to do it in poedit
12:37 kf shoudl be possible to do with a text editor and some smart search and replace
12:37 kf you need a line #fuzzy or similar I think
12:37 gaetan_B1 yes indeed (it will help a lot with the bidi problems though)
12:37 kf maybe if you look in one of the po files in a text editor you will see
12:37 kf because unlike en/en-NZ those are not so similar :)
12:37 gaetan_B1 how do you mark all strings fuzzy ?
12:36 kf :)
12:36 gaetan_B1 ah yes :)
12:36 gaetan_B1 kf: this is a good idea, this would also allow the translator to see how much work he has done indeed
12:36 kf so you can easily see how much is actually done already and what still has to be done
12:36 kf gaetan_B1 it should work I think - but I woudl try and mark all strings fuzzy in that case
12:33 kf :)
12:33 * oleonard wants that to be a real thing
12:32 kf today is a cookie day. I just want you to be prepared ;)
12:32 * kf hands oleonard and tcohen cookies
12:32 tcohen hi kf
12:32 kf morning tcohen
12:32 tcohen morning #koha
12:26 kf hi oleonard
12:24 oleonard Hi #koha
11:51 gaetan_B we'll make it this way then
11:51 gaetan_B rangi: this is great news :)
11:49 rangi heh yeah didnt work so well
11:49 jcamins rangi: well done on the going to sleep front. :)
11:49 rangi too=took
11:48 rangi gaetan_B: thats what i did for en-NZ too en-GB and renamed
11:48 * rangi is still awake obviously
11:48 rangi yes
11:47 gaetan_B but would modifying the arabic files and just renaming them would work out ?
11:47 gaetan_B the translator understand arabic as an added bonus
11:47 gaetan_B also it will make them easier for them to translate the rest, especially when %s are mingled with text
11:46 gaetan_B so all the %s and code stuff has already been replaced
11:46 gaetan_B they would start with the content of the arabic files
11:46 gaetan_B instead of starting from empty kurdish files
11:45 gaetan_B kf: for the kurdish translation, there is one thing i would like to do to make it easier for them but i need your confirmation
11:45 gaetan_B kf: hello
11:29 mtj jebus, #koha is a mad-house this evening :p
11:11 kf good ngiht rangi
11:11 * rangi stops tormenting the bots and goes to bed
11:05 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
11:05 jcamins @later tell dcook I have no idea what testsearch.pl is, no.
11:05 * kf is innocent
11:04 jcamins huh?
11:04 jcamins ...
11:04 kf lol
11:04 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
11:04 huginn GERMS!!!!
10:59 huginn Oh no, not this fool again
10:40 * drojf has to reboot. after 5 minutes of using windows. ha.
10:38 sher_jillnai magnus_lunch can u help me in the problem mentioned above
10:38 sher_jillnai magnus_lunch sorry actualy i am new here
10:37 sher_jillnai magnus sorry actually i m new here
10:33 magnus sher_jillnai, wahanui is a bot - not an actual person
10:31 wahanui sher_jillnai: sorry...
10:31 sher_jillnai wahanui but i m requesting for your help
10:30 wahanui sher_jillnai: i'm not following you...
10:30 sher_jillnai wahanui please help me
10:30 wahanui OK, sher_jillnai.
10:30 sher_jillnai wahanui yes cjh also told me but i check in the service list there was nothing like SIP and also i check in the Port running list there was also no port is running 6001 which the port number for SIP server
10:30 wahanui OK, sher_jillnai.
10:30 sher_jillnai wahanui yes cjh also told me but i check in the service list there was nothing like SIP and also i check in the Port running list there was also no port is running 6001 which the port number for SIP server
10:30 wahanui OK, sher_jillnai.
10:30 sher_jillnai wahanui yes cjh also told me but i check in the service list there was nothing like SIP and also i check in the Port running list there was also no port is running 6001 which the port number for SIP server
10:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9172 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move TinyMCE library outside of language-specific directory
10:19 magnus hooray for bug 9172
10:11 kf I am not usre I understand still, sorry
10:11 kf ?
10:10 samuel the example i take is what i would like to have. I don't think that i've to modify a xsl file? I just want to have : localisation-itemcallnumber-avaibality...
10:08 kf I really have not much time right now - but what do you want to change there?
10:07 samuel http://catalogue.bu.univ-rennes2.fr/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=168453 ->this example is better
10:06 samuel kf: my example is not good, i can take a french example with the good koha
10:06 wahanui it has been said that SIP server is definitely running
10:06 sher_jillnai SIP server
10:06 sher_jillnai kf can u help me is about Koha SIP service
10:06 kf well not versoin, made for the wrong software
10:06 kf to be honest - because the license is not good and it's made for the wrong version
10:05 kf samuel: sorry, but I think we don't want to help you with this.
10:04 sher_jillnai I RUN THIS COMMOND FOR SIP SERVER ADN NOW STILL THE SERIVE IS NOT SHOWING AND ALSO THE PORT 6001 IS NOT SHOWING IN netstat root@ubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib# KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml
10:04 samuel yes but how can i change words in the items informations (holding site ....)?
10:02 rangi samuel: thats not koha, thats the liblime fork
10:02 samuel I've a question: where can i modify title in the item table of a record (ex:http://hartford.waldo.kohalibrary.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=172999&idx=&limit=&q=au:Lanoux%2C%20Armand.) example: i want to change "site" "shelving location" with other words
10:01 sher_jillnai any body can help me
09:59 samuel hi everybody
09:55 vfernandes no problem :)
09:55 kf vfernandes: sorry, I have no time to help you right now
09:54 vfernandes should I change to GRS?
09:54 vfernandes MARC21 authorities update, DOM: ZOOM error 114 "Unsupported Use attribute" (addinfo: "Koha-Auth-Number") from diag-set 'Bib-1'
09:54 magnus kf: :-)
09:53 vfernandes kf can you help me?
09:52 kf if you don't :)
09:52 kf magnuse: terribly
09:50 magnus well, "try to signoff"
09:50 magnus rangi: yay, go humans!
09:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10049 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Comments tab shows ( ) instead of ( 0 ) on translated templates
09:50 magnus kf: will you be terribly offended if i sign off oleonard's patch on bug 10049?
09:49 rangi of a kind .. humans vs bigots, humans win!
09:48 * magnus thought rangi was watching sports...
09:48 magnus nz++
09:47 rangi http://www.3news.co.nz/Same-sex-marriage-legalised/tabid/1607/articleID/294668/Default.aspx
09:45 kf nz++
09:45 kf woohoo :)
09:45 rangi marriage equality bill passes, same sex marriage is legal in nz
09:45 rangi 77-44
09:44 rangi w00t
09:42 magnus wow, lost power
09:31 drojf later
09:25 vfernandes anyone could help me?
09:25 vfernandes when doing MARC21 authorities updates I get that error
09:21 cjh sher_jillnai: I have little experience with SIP so can't help you from here anyway, if you need help there is this channel or paid support. goodluck :)
09:20 drojf sher_jillnai: http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/
09:20 vfernandes MARC21 authorities update, DOM: ZOOM error 114 "Unsupported Use attribute" (addinfo: "Koha-Auth-Number") from diag-set 'Bib-1'
09:20 drojf sher_jillnai: people here are volunteering with help in their spare time, please don't bother them if they have other things to do. if you need somebody to help you immediately, you should have a look at the paid support page
09:19 vfernandes hello :)
09:18 sher_jillnai stay cjh
09:18 wahanui somebody said cjh was just finishing off a report on the remaining issues with plack, which should help finish that work off
09:18 sher_jillnai cjh please
09:18 cjh time for me to go home, goodnight #koha
09:17 cjh sher_jillnai: you can check if it is running by running 'ps --pid 13784'
09:17 drojf gaetan_B: i don't remember seeing a coded field for it
09:17 gaetan_B see you :)
09:17 gaetan_B ok i have to go again
09:17 gaetan_B drojf: thanks this seems to be it ! not normalized though, but that will do :)
09:16 cjh sher_jillnai: that to me sounds like the SIP server has started and is running with the process id of 13764
09:16 drojf gaetan_B: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd546.html
09:15 sher_jillnai cjh at the buttom of the code it give me this line too after excuting the command u recomend me Wed Apr 17 13:07:06 2013 -- startup -- procid:13784
09:14 kf maybe somehwere around there
09:14 sher_jillnai cjh i check in the service the SIP service not running and even i check in netstat the port 6001 is not running too but the 6010 is running but this is not the port in the SIPconfig.xml file
09:13 huginn kf: Codes for languages associated with an item when the language code in field 008/35-37 of the record is insufficient to convey full information. This includes records for multilingual items, items that involve translation, and items where the medium of communication is a sign language. The sources of the codes are: MARC Code List for Languages or other code lists such as ISO 639-1 (Codes for the (1 more message)
09:13 kf @marc 041
09:13 kf try the 0 tab
09:13 * gaetan_B is having this special feeling someone can't help having when thinking about marc too much
09:13 * gaetan_B is browsing furiously through the marc21 default framework
09:11 kf ther eis catalouging language somewhere I think
09:11 kf hm probably
09:11 gaetan_B is there a MARC21 field where you can put which writing system the document is written in ? (latin, cyrillic, arabic, and so on)
09:03 cjh I am not familiar with that output, but it looks like a warning only. Is SIP now running?
09:03 sher_jillnai now the last hope is you ppl
09:03 sher_jillnai but from one week i m facing this problem
09:02 sher_jillnai so please do not b fedup with me
09:02 sher_jillnai cjh i m totaly new here
09:02 sher_jillnai cjh did u got my msg
09:00 sher_jillnai cjh now it give me the code of the SIPconfig.xml and also in the start it give me UNIVERSAL->import is deprecated and will be removed in a future perl at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/SIP/Sip/MsgType.p m line 22
08:58 cjh KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml
08:58 sher_jillnai cjh ok let me try this
08:58 sher_jillnai BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at C4/Auth.pm line 63.
08:58 cjh sorry that should be KOHA_CONF not KOHACONF, my bad.
08:58 sher_jillnai Can't call method "config" on unblessed reference at C4/Context.pm line 778.
08:58 sher_jillnai Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at C4/Templates.pm line 208.
08:58 sher_jillnai and the error is unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at C4/Context.pm line 360.
08:57 sher_jillnai root@ubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib# KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml
08:57 sher_jillnai cjh i tired but it gives me the same error
08:54 sher_jillnai cjh tn alot let me try and i will let u know
08:54 sher_jillnai ok let me try
08:51 cjh there we are, but change 'mysite' to be the correct folder.
08:50 cjh KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/mysite/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml
08:50 cjh eik, sorry bad copy and paste.
08:50 cjh you need to have KOHACONF set, KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/mysite/koha-conf.xml perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml
08:50 cjh you need to have KOHACONF set, KOHACONF=/etc/koha/sites/mysite/koha-conf.xml and then the rest of your command
08:48 sher_jillnai but after executing that command form lib directory i.e. root@ubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib# perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS C4/SIP/SIPServer.pm /etc/koha/SIPconfig.xml it give me some sort of errors like unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at C4/Context.pm line 360.
08:47 drojf sher_jillnai: what description have you been using?
08:46 sher_jillnai as per the description i followed the steps for starting the SIP Server
08:45 sher_jillnai and the koha which i am using is version 3.10.04.000 and the perl version is 5.014002
08:44 sher_jillnai so i was saying that i want to configuring the SIP for koha
08:44 magnuse the way to do it is you describe your problem and if anyone can help you they will step forward
08:44 sher_jillnai ok fine
08:43 cjh sher_jillnai: if you want to ask a question then please ask the channel
08:43 magnuse nah, that's not a good idea
08:43 sher_jillnai magnuse please come to pm
08:43 magnuse welcome!
08:42 sher_jillnai magnuse its my first time
08:42 sher_jillnai mahnuse
08:42 magnuse shaunm: wahanui is a bot...
08:42 sher_jillnai thnx wahanui
08:41 magnuse what is your actual problem?
08:40 magnuse sher_jillnai: we heard you the first time
08:40 sher_jillnai hello any body here i need some help for configuring SIP in Koha
08:39 wahanui sher_jillnai: sorry...
08:39 sher_jillnai wahanui can u help me
08:39 sher_jillnai thanx wahanui
08:39 wahanui bidet, sher_jillnai
08:39 sher_jillnai hello
08:39 sher_jillnai root@ubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib/C4# perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS /SIP?SIPServer.pm ?etc/ koha/SIPconfig.xml Can't open perl script "/SIP?SIPServer.pm": No such file or directory root@ubuntu:/usr/share/koha/lib/C4# perl -IC4/SIP/ -MILS /SIP/SIPServer.pm
08:39 sher_jillnai its related to SIP
08:38 sher_jillnai i need your help please some one help me out
08:38 sher_jillnai hello every body
08:30 rangi hi drojf :)
08:30 drojf hi rangi :)
08:29 rangi fwiw i have a bunch of libraries using it without issues
08:28 drojf liblime *hides*
08:27 rangi who is they?
08:10 zebil why they don't fix it still!
08:09 zebil but i know that poblem was exist in all versions in koha
08:01 kf it might be well worth filing a bug
08:01 kf I am not sure there is a specific bug report
08:00 zebil so this is a known bug
07:58 kf I amhoping the dev above will fix it - but it's quite big and so didn't make it into 3.12
07:58 kf maybefor others too
07:58 kf if you have advanced patters
07:58 kf prediction patterns are not working right
07:56 zebil hmm
07:51 magnuse but i'm afraid i'm not very familiar with how the subscription module works...
07:51 magnuse that might be because there are known problems with the way things work now
07:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7688 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Change subscriptions numbering pattern and frequencies
07:51 magnuse there is an enhancement suggested in this area: bug 7688
07:50 zebil also i tried that in other demo koha sites
07:50 zebil 3.10.04
07:48 magnuse zebil: which version of koha are you using?
07:45 zebil or i am doing something wrong...
07:44 zebil but if you have other type subscription, etc. bimonthly or 1/3 quarterly, prediction system is working not correctly
07:43 zebil if you have a monthly serial subscription everything is ok
07:43 zebil in test prediction
07:42 zebil there is something wrong in serial subscription module
07:42 zebil i think i should ask and if someone want to help...
07:41 wahanui no one is saying a word, soooooo
07:41 zebil no one?
07:40 zebil is there anyone there to help me?
07:40 zebil hi there
07:32 huginn gaetan_B: Error: No such location could be found.
07:32 gaetan_B @wunder Baghdad
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07:32 gaetan_B @wunder Sulaymaniyah
07:31 gaetan_B :D can't believe it !
07:31 huginn gaetan_B: Error: No such location could be found.
07:31 gaetan_B @wunder Sulaimani
07:31 gaetan_B hallo kf :) Cludy / dusty today
07:31 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.1°C (9:25 AM CEST on April 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
07:30 kf @wunder Konstanz
07:30 kf how is kurdistan?
07:30 kf hi gaetan_B
07:28 gaetan_B hello
07:24 kf totally correct wahanui
07:23 wahanui kf should be writing slides
07:23 magnuse slides?
07:22 magnuse yeah!
07:22 kf at least I got to see you in marseille
07:22 kf oooh
07:22 magnuse it's official: no reno for me, i'm afraid
07:21 kf hi magnuse
07:21 magnuse kia ora kf
07:21 kf good morning #koha
07:03 christophe_c bonjour magnuse
07:02 Joubu hello #koha
07:02 reiveune salut magnuse :)
07:01 magnuse bonjour christophe_c and reiveune
06:55 christophe_c hello #koha
06:54 * magnuse waves
06:53 reiveune hello
06:44 cait bbl
06:40 drojf moin cait
06:39 cait morgen drojf
06:20 kohaUser_SL and the Debian iso is being downloaded now
06:20 wahanui VirtualBox is good for that sort of thing
06:20 kohaUser_SL VirtualBox
06:20 kohaUser_SL I downloaded Koha Latest
06:18 kohaUser_SL thanks alot for the info\:)
06:18 kohaUser_SL im not much familiar with linux..ill give a try and come again if i encouter any issues
06:18 kohaUser_SL oki
06:18 kohaUser_SL hmm
06:13 dcook You'll find people here are most helpful when you have a specific problem that you've encountered and can't figure out on your own / from the documentation
06:13 dcook I suggest going one step at a time
06:12 dcook Git will be missing (if you want to do development)
06:12 dcook Zebra might be missing?
06:12 dcook Possibly Mysql, but I'm not sure
06:12 dcook Probably Apache as well
06:12 dcook Debian will definitely have Perl already installed
06:12 kohaUser_SL hmm
06:12 dcook I've installed Debian on a VM using the first CD/DVD from the Debian website, and installed Git from the Debian repositories, but that's about it so far
06:11 dcook That's where the Koha wiki docs come in handy though ;)
06:11 dcook I think it detects and updates missing Perl dependencies but I'm not sure about other software
06:10 dcook I probably am mistaken now that I think about it...
06:10 dcook But, if I'm not mistaken, the Debian packages provided by Koha should install any missing software
06:10 dcook I doubt it
06:08 kohaUser_SL so Koha will work on this Standard Debian system is it?
06:08 kohaUser_SL :)
06:08 kohaUser_SL ahh great..
06:07 dcook Their words - not mine. Forgot quotation marks ;)
06:06 dcook To avoid needless downloads, please do not download other CD or DVD image files unless you know that you need packages on them.
06:06 dcook The first CD/DVD disk contains all the files necessary to install a standard Debian system.
06:06 dcook http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/
06:01 kohaUser_SL i need to download
06:01 kohaUser_SL altogether there will be around 50 GB
06:01 kohaUser_SL ?
06:01 kohaUser_SL or is there any pakage less file size
06:00 kohaUser_SL do I have to download all of them?
06:00 kohaUser_SL to download
06:00 kohaUser_SL mm i need to download Linux Debian and when I go to their site to download it has 8 DVDs
05:59 kohaUser_SL :)
05:59 eythian although, I'm going right now. Someone may be here
05:59 wahanui Don't ask to ask, just ask.
05:59 eythian ask?
05:59 kohaUser_SL i have a small question
05:58 kohaUser_SL ?
05:58 kohaUser_SL a anyone here
05:58 kohaUser_SL hi
05:37 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:37 dcook @later tell jcamins Any idea what testsearch.pl is or why it's still around?
05:22 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:22 dcook @later tell bag Did anything ever come of make_spelling_suggest.pl?
05:16 kohaUser_SL thanx
05:16 kohaUser_SL sure
05:16 eythian see that link
05:16 kohaUser_SL whats the addres?
05:15 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
05:15 eythian wahanui: mailing lists
05:15 kohaUser_SL ok
05:14 eythian I would also recommend joining the Koha mailing lists to get information.
05:12 kohaUser_SL Im from Sri Lanka
05:12 kohaUser_SL hello..
05:12 kohaUser_SL :)
05:11 * cait waves from germany
05:11 eythian I'm in New Zealand. Koha is also originally from New Zealand, but now it's completely worldwide.
05:10 kohaUser_SL and this software?
05:10 kohaUser_SL which country are u from?
05:10 eythian many of the people in this channel are, yes
05:10 kohaUser_SL ?
05:10 kohaUser_SL hmm are you guys Koha developers
05:09 eythian this is just an IRC channel, if there are people here they'll talk, but they aren't always around.
05:09 eythian no
05:08 kohaUser_SL ?
05:08 kohaUser_SL is this chat 24x7 supported/
05:07 kohaUser_SL okay
05:07 kohaUser_SL hm
05:03 eythian but on the other hand, you might have a budget, in which case that'd probably do fine
05:03 eythian if you're busy, you might want to increase that
05:03 eythian our small to medium sized libraries get away with ~4GB and 2 processors that are about 2.5-3GHz
05:02 kohaUser_SL hmm
05:02 eythian it varies based on the library
05:02 wizzyrea depends on how busy the library is
05:01 kohaUser_SL Ram and processor?
05:01 kohaUser_SL ?
05:01 kohaUser_SL what are the recomended hardware configuration for the server
05:01 eythian The better your server, the faster Koha will run, in general.
05:01 eythian one with good CPUs and enough RAM.
05:00 kohaUser_SL hmm what so u mean by a good linux server?
05:00 cait hi eythian :)
05:00 cait lol
05:00 wahanui go back to bed, cait.
05:00 eythian wahanui: cait
05:00 wahanui cait is qam, not your secretary
05:00 eythian wahanui: cait
05:00 eythian hi cait
04:59 eythian ah, very cool. In that case, I'd strongly suggest a modern Koha version (3.10 or so) and a good Linux server.
04:59 * cait waves
04:59 kohaUser_SL I'm planinng to install this software in a Major public library in Sri Lanka
04:58 eythian no worries
04:58 kohaUser_SL thanks a lot for the information
04:58 kohaUser_SL ok :)
04:58 kohaUser_SL hmm
04:58 eythian Koha 2.2 is very, very old and strongly not recommended.
04:57 kohaUser_SL which says it has a Koha package for windows
04:57 kohaUser_SL http://www.koha.rwjr.com/
04:57 kohaUser_SL when i search in the internet i found this link
04:57 kohaUser_SL hmm
04:56 eythian Debian is recommended
04:56 kohaUser_SL what is the version of linux i have to use?
04:56 eythian Yes
04:55 kohaUser_SL ?
04:55 kohaUser_SL that means i have to install a Linux in a virtual machine and install Koha on there right
04:55 kohaUser_SL ah is it..
04:54 wizzyrea inside some kind of virtual machine that runs on top of windows, yes.
04:53 wizzyrea natively? no.
04:53 kohaUser_SL ?
04:52 kohaUser_SL i would like to know whether Koha can be installed in Windows environment
04:52 wizzyrea hiyas
04:52 kohaUser_SL hi
04:42 dcook That's what I was thinking. Thanks, eythian :)
04:38 eythian not that I'm aware of
04:37 dcook Does anyone know if there has been work to add Z39.50 search/import for authorities as well as biblios?
02:02 dcook mtj++
02:00 mtj heya eythian, papa
01:59 mtj dcook, ok cool, i might have a little poke at it now...
01:59 eythian hello papa
01:56 dcook A bit low on the list of ones to write myself though..
01:56 dcook I'd test it for sure
01:55 * dcook nods
01:55 dcook :D
01:53 mtj hmmm, sounds like a patch that might get accepted...
01:52 dcook I notice Australians don't like dealing with American dates
01:52 jcamins mtj: yeah, according to the region.
01:51 dcook pretty and in accordance to their syspref
01:51 mtj rather than 'awesome book is due at 2013-04-22 23:59:00'
01:49 mtj i think people probably want those dates/timestamps pretty-formatted, as default?
01:49 dcook Mmm, sounds familiar
01:48 mtj … and/or does anyone have a patch or workaround, for it?
01:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9084 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Dates in notices should be formatted according to dateformat system preference
01:47 mtj hi all, has anyone else bumped into bug 9084
01:03 jcamins Hehe.
01:02 dcook I say mind you too much...
01:02 dcook Mind you, thanks to being winter 6-8 months of the year, I've never really encountered insect issues in Saskatchewan
01:01 dcook Mind you, they're very large containers
01:01 dcook Off the top of my head, the folks I know with bulk flour and sugar make do just using air-tight containers
01:01 dcook Intriguing!
01:00 jcamins So I put bay leaves in the flour and sugar.
01:00 jcamins When I have 30lbs of flour, the possibility of moths is *really* appalling.
01:00 jcamins It's because I buy my flour and sugar in bulk.
00:55 dcook I have never heard of that practice before now.
00:53 jcamins You have all the little bits of bay leaves that broke.
00:53 dcook In terms of getting it out or the fact that there is none left?
00:53 dcook No French books, but maybe I could pick up Italian..
00:53 jcamins I hate the very end of the bucket of sugar/flour.
00:52 dcook Reminds me that I really need to get a library card from my local library...
00:52 dcook 10.12 million out of 22 million
00:51 jcamins Actually, 46% sounds really good to me.
00:45 dcook Of course, 96 would be better than 46, but...for having a public library system which leaves much to be desired, that might not be too bad..
00:45 dcook While I doubt the accuracy of statistics, especially when they aren't explicit in their methodology, I'm willing to just ^_^ at that
00:43 dcook 46% of Australians aged over 18 years visited a library in 2006
00:43 dcook While I generally extremely dislike statistics, what the Australian Bureau of Statistics came up with is kind of cool: http://tinyurl.com/bv38omc
00:40 dcook As could that...
00:40 dcook I feel like that could be taken out of context...
00:40 dcook ...
00:39 dcook While I certainly do enjoy hearing about the cookies, I can't wait to try some!
00:39 dcook :D
00:38 jcamins I tend to be accompanied by baked goods, as a general rule.
00:38 jcamins Probably pretty good.
00:37 dcook What are the chances of us getting Jared cookies at Kohacon13?
00:37 dcook So I'm going to lay this on the table...
00:36 dcook Possibly just baked goods in general
00:36 dcook I might also have a deep-seeded love of oatmeal...and chocolate
00:36 dcook I'm digging the idea of lemon verbena chocolate oatmeal..
00:36 dcook Ah right and you have chocolate..
00:34 jcamins ... or maybe not.
00:34 jcamins Maybe even odder than lemon verbena!
00:33 dcook Yeah, I was looking back and thinking that vanilla would be odd in this case
00:33 jcamins But the lemon verbena might need a bit more "flower" to back it up.
00:33 jcamins Oh, vanilla is definitely delicious.
00:32 * dcook might have a deep-seeded love of vanilla
00:32 dcook But...vanilla!
00:32 dcook You do have a penchant for the unique, eh?
00:32 jcamins And I think I'll use rose water instead of vanilla.
00:32 dcook Naturally
00:32 jcamins Naturally.
00:32 jcamins And from there lemon verbena was the obvious thing.
00:31 jcamins So I started thinking about what would make cookies relaxing.
00:30 jcamins Caffeinated cookies at this time of night seemed like a bad idea.
00:30 jcamins But other than peppermint schnapps, the only liquor I have on hand is tia maria, which is caffienated.
00:30 jcamins Then I thought about alcoholic flavorings.
00:29 jcamins And I'm fresh out of avocado.
00:29 jcamins But those have all been done.
00:29 jcamins Coconut, nuts, etc.
00:29 jcamins First I thought about possible additions.
00:29 jcamins Which led exactly where you might expect.
00:29 * dcook is thinking that maybe an early lunch is a good idea...
00:29 dcook Different and no-bake are always good ideas
00:29 jcamins But I also wanted to do something different.
00:28 jcamins I decided I wanted to do no-bake cookies.
00:28 jcamins But you dry out the leaves and then steep them in hot water to make a delicious and soothing infusion.
00:27 jcamins It is a plant, anyway.
00:27 jcamins Actually... I'm not sure if it's an herb.
00:27 jcamins It's an herb.
00:26 jcamins Lemon verbena.
00:26 dcook I would certainly agree. Verbena?
00:26 jcamins My quest for entertainment in the cookie baking department is leading in some very interesting directions, I must say.
00:26 jcamins Hehe.
00:25 * dcook 's stomach gurgles
00:25 dcook ...
00:25 jcamins We're having leftovers, and I'm making lemon verbena chocolate oatmeal no-bake cookies.
00:24 dcook hehe
00:24 jcamins dcook: just to be different, I am _not_ talking about cooking fancy meals today.