Time  Nick            Message
23:54 jcamins         Something like this: http://www.eatori.com/2013/04/candied-grapefruit-peel-and-dark-chocolate-cookies.html
23:45 * jcamins       contemplates grapefruits and cookies.
22:25 eythian         hi
21:41 mib_n4eweq      thanks.
21:40 mib_n4eweq      hi can anyone please suggest how I could add Arabic/indic keyboard. I am new to Koha, Many thanks
21:24 cait            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/How_to_add_an_OPAC_screen_keyboard
21:24 cait            mib_n4eweq: there is also the sreenkeyboard
21:23 * cait          waves at jcamins
21:19 jcamins         Lots of people won't be listed, of course, but some will.
21:19 jcamins         ^^ you could take a look at that page
21:18 wahanui         koha users is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users_Worldwide
21:18 jcamins         koha users?
21:18 jcamins         koha users worldwide?
21:18 mib_n4eweq      thanks. Is there a list of koha arabic users?
21:18 jcamins         ^^ take a look at that page, I think it might have something about custom keyboards
21:17 wahanui         jquery library is found at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library
21:17 jcamins         jquery library?
21:17 jcamins         Koha is open source, and you can add custom Javascript.
21:17 jcamins         Probably.
21:17 jcamins         I don't know anything about that, sorry.
21:16 mib_n4eweq      is there any guide lines to keyboard setting.  could I add a tool like yamli for arabic?
21:14 jcamins         mib_n4eweq: you can just change your keyboard setting.
21:14 mib_n4eweq      hi can anyone please suggest how I could add Arabic/indic keyboard. I am new to Koha, Many thanks
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20:31 cait            sleep tight
20:31 cait            :)
20:30 magnuse         oh well, time to let that poor brain dream a little - see ya!
20:30 magnuse         ish
20:29 * magnuse       kind of hopes his brain is human ;-)
20:29 magnuse         :-)
20:28 cait            that sounds human
20:28 magnuse         it's slow and unreliable
20:27 magnuse         nope
20:27 cait            your brian is fine :)
20:27 cait            see
20:27 magnuse         yeah, actually i think so
20:27 cait            because that added 4
20:27 cait            maybe we wanted to wait until plugins was pushed
20:27 magnuse         my teflon coated brain is playing tricks with me then :-)
20:27 magnuse         ah, ok
20:27 cait            not sure, I only remember typing the notices
20:26 magnuse         i thought there was one with permissions, but i might remember wrong
20:26 magnuse         yup
20:26 cait            we did that :)
20:26 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9414 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Fix sample letters for German and Norwegian
20:26 cait            bug 9414
20:26 magnuse         actually, i hope i can do some patches for them before it's too late
20:26 magnuse         some time...
20:26 magnuse         yeah, i will...
20:25 magnuse         just need impatience and hubris now...
20:25 cait            can you review them sometime?
20:25 cait            i saw quite a few normarc bugs in bugzilla
20:25 magnuse         that's me!
20:25 cait            lazy :)
20:25 magnuse         i'll have a look at your patch when you are done and see what is missing for norwegian :-)
20:25 cait            I rmeembered we did notices
20:25 cait            maybe we did
20:25 cait            hm oh
20:25 cait            and I changed some existing translations
20:25 magnuse         maybe not
20:25 magnuse         didn't we do that?
20:24 cait            and user flags
20:24 magnuse         ah
20:24 cait            mostly translating the permissons
20:24 cait            so far not
20:24 cait            don't play with the karma!
20:24 magnuse         is there a lot of updating needed?
20:24 cait            LOL
20:24 magnuse         cait++ for doing patches too
20:23 cait            updating the german web installer files
20:23 cait            :)
20:21 * magnuse       can hear the snow melting
20:21 magnuse         here too, actually
20:21 magnuse         that was at 8
20:21 magnuse         <huginn> cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C
20:21 cait            yeah pretty spring like out there
20:20 cait            ah
20:20 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.3°C (10:15 PM CEST on April 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
20:20 cait            @wunder Konstanz
20:20 cait            I see 5
20:20 cait            hm?
20:20 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (9:50 PM CEST on April 14, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Falling).
20:20 magnuse         @wunder boo
20:20 magnuse         cait: 20 degrees?!?
18:40 cait            if you run into problems asking on the mailing list would be good - I know we have some active arabic users that are not using the chat
18:39 cait            no problem, hope it works
18:39 mib_c6kjzr      will have a good read of this
18:39 mib_c6kjzr      thanks for the link
18:39 mib_c6kjzr      ok great!
18:39 cait            ^^ this should help :)
18:39 cait            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Correcting_Search_of_Arabic_records
18:38 mib_c6kjzr      just using the 'apt-get insall koha' on a debian box. then followed the web installer
18:38 cait            Koha with ICU will fix that problem, it#s an installation option when using the tarball but it can also be used when you installed from the packages
18:38 cait            how did you install koha?
18:38 cait            you need to install koha with icu indexing
18:37 mib_c6kjzr      we have around 6040 arabic records. and alot of searches just return all 6040
18:37 mib_c6kjzr      most of the searches we perform are returning way too many results
18:37 mib_c6kjzr      however we have a problem with the search
18:36 mib_c6kjzr      cool, we were having a few issues with ours. we've managed to load the arabic records in and are able to browse
18:36 cait            do you have a problem?
18:36 cait            I have some experience with hebrew and we have loaded arabic for testing
18:36 cait            kind of
18:36 cait            hi mib_c6kjzr
18:35 mib_c6kjzr      hey guys. anyone here had any experience using koha with marc records in arabic?
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18:07 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 20.0°C (8:00 PM CEST on April 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
18:07 cait            @wunder Konstanz
17:19 cait            hmmm
17:17 cait            aha
17:11 cait            hi dpavlin :)
16:01 cait            wb tcohen? :)
15:35 gp5st           :)
15:32 cait            getting better every day :)
15:32 cait            yeah, koha has come a long way since then
15:31 cait            :)
15:12 gp5st           so i've finally gotten around to updating this system
15:12 gp5st           in the version we had
15:12 gp5st           and the girls working keep looking on the docs and telling me about features and what not that don't exist
15:12 gp5st           we're a church library
15:10 gp5st           cool:)
15:10 jcamins         I think you're going to be very happy. :)
15:09 jcamins         gp5st: Koha has improved a lot since then.
15:09 gp5st           idk much about the split, but at least there is still an open source version
15:09 gp5st           infact i was pulling from koha.org when that was a thing
15:08 gp5st           before i was just pulling from git
15:08 gp5st           between the not so nice inet here and the headache of ubuntu updates, going from 8.04 to 12.04 wasn't happening. i wiped and put 12.04 on here and am using the ppa to install and update from now on
15:04 gp5st           cool, thanks jcamins
15:04 jcamins         (I always just do /sbin/koha-<tab><tab> so that I get a list of my options, and identify the name that way)
15:03 jcamins         koha-update-schema or something like that and koha-upgrade-to-3.4 or something like that.
15:03 cait            ah :) listen to jcamins :)
15:03 cait            i think you can - but there is a script that has to be run
15:03 jcamins         gp5st: yes, then you'll need to run a few upgrade scripts.
15:03 cait            hm
15:01 gp5st           i have a db dumb from a 3.0 install. i'm installing from the repos right now on an ubuntu 12.04 machine. can i just import my db dump?
14:56 * jcamins       wouldn't.
14:49 cait            would someone be opposed to add a target="_blank" there?
14:49 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7892 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , on staged marc record management open in tab
14:49 cait            bug 7892
14:39 cait            hm git bz doesn't like N°
14:29 cait            for an easy bug this is quite confusing :)
14:29 cait            seems what we use more
14:29 cait            Basket# ?
14:29 cait            hm Basket (No.)
14:27 cait            greetings to the family :) before I forget!
14:27 cait            oh
14:26 magnuse         :-)
14:25 cait            magnuse: I guess that's out of question ... but same here :)
14:25 magnuse         yay!
14:24 cait            everyone disagreeing can do the same :)
14:24 magnuse         If it was Nr. i wouldn't have to translate it :-)
14:24 cait            I am going to provide a patch
14:24 cait            well
14:24 jcamins         Right.
14:24 jcamins         But, as I said, I'm the wrong person to ask.
14:24 cait            because you don't really care ;)
14:24 jcamins         I don't have a problem with it.
14:24 magnuse         cait: i would guess so too
14:23 cait            would No. be bad?
14:22 cait            well American English obviously
14:22 jcamins         Right.
14:22 jcamins         Ah.
14:22 cait            american english
14:21 jcamins         What does AE mean?
14:21 cait            magnuse: i guess handling No. would be kinder
14:20 cait            it seems # is AE
14:20 jcamins         Maybe ask someone who doesn't regularly write both "No." and "Nr."?
14:20 magnuse         how well does the translate process handle # for "number"?
14:19 cait            guess we could also do No.
14:19 cait            http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=264328
14:19 jcamins         I thought we were replacing it with #?
14:18 * cait          pokes jcamins
14:16 cait            and what should we replace N° with?
14:16 cait            so to fix or not to fix?
14:13 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10023 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , degree notation in acq
14:13 jcamins         bug 10023
14:12 cait            jcamins: around?
14:12 cait            bgkriegel: cool )
14:12 cait            i have used the search on git.koha-community.org now and found a lot of occurences
14:12 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations
14:12 bgkriegel       testing Bug 10041
14:12 cait            bye tcohen and thx :)
14:11 bgkriegel       bye cohen
14:11 huginn          bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 23.0°C (11:00 AM ART on April 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
14:11 bgkriegel       @wunder cordoba, argentina
14:11 tcohen          byee bgkriegel cait
14:11 tcohen          gotta leave cait, bgkriegel can help u, but I think that grep is right
14:11 cait            here too :) second day of spring :)
14:11 cait            native english speakers around?
14:11 bgkriegel       a sunny sunday here
14:10 bgkriegel       hi cait
14:10 cait            hi bgkriegel :)
14:09 cait            °
14:09 cait            not recognizing the ^
14:09 cait            i think it looks for every N
14:09 cait            i get loooots of lines
14:08 cait            possible that is not quite right?
14:08 tcohen          grep -R "N°" * | grep -v -e blib
14:08 cait            hm
14:08 cait            that output looks scary :)
14:08 cait            oh
14:06 tcohen          grep -R "N°" * ?
14:06 cait            s
14:06 cait            I want to look for N° in the koha file
14:05 cait            I always fail to grep right :)
14:05 tcohen_hangover ?
14:05 cait            tcohen_hangover: can you help me with something?
14:04 cait            hehe thx
14:04 tcohen_hangover i'll leave them to you
14:04 cait            that's how it should be :)
14:03 tcohen_hangover wont be reading bugs
14:03 cait            :)
14:03 tcohen_hangover this sunday i'm full of family events
14:02 cait            I have almost no commits in this version :(
14:02 cait            I am tempted to do some patches too...
14:02 tcohen_hangover thanks cait
13:59 tcohen_hangover heh
13:58 cait            ;)
13:58 cait            tcohen_hangover: I filed just the right bugs for people with hangover... lots of string changes! :)
13:57 * cait          hands tcohen_hangover a glass of water and aspirin
13:57 cait            that sounds unpleasant
13:57 jcamins         cait: black licorice-flavored listerine.
13:56 cait            fernet? :)
13:55 tcohen_hangover lots of fernet cait
13:55 jcamins         Hehe.
13:55 cait            tcohen_hangover: long night? :)
13:55 * cait          waves to #koha
13:05 magnuse         but you did more today!
13:05 cait            you already gave me karma for that yesterday!
13:04 magnuse         cait++
13:04 magnuse         "only" 40?!?
12:58 cait            so only 40 down
12:58 cait            well i filed some more
12:58 jcamins         Huh.
12:58 jcamins         Only 40?
12:57 cait            and lots of inboxes filled
12:56 cait            sadly only 40 closed
12:56 cait            hey
12:56 jcamins         cait++ # for bug wrangling
12:06 gaetan_B        cait: ok i have to disappear because of vpn troubles, gthanks a lot and see you later !
11:47 gaetan_B        ah it does show up for me too now, thanks :)
11:41 cait            http://translate.koha-community.org/
11:41 cait            and it does show up for me now:
11:41 cait            http://translate.koha-community.org/ku_SOR/310/
11:41 gaetan_B        ok i will check
11:38 cait            hope the files is ok, you will have to check :)
11:38 cait            opac is up
11:37 cait            gaetan_B: uploading now
11:35 cait            http://translate.koha-community.org/ku_SOR/312/
11:35 cait            hm where are you looking?
11:31 gaetan_B        i still only see the weird kurdish project that only has a gnome terminology file attached to it
11:31 gaetan_B        but we had to install this week so
11:31 gaetan_B        i wanted to put 3.12, so that they have all the latest improvements
11:31 gaetan_B        yes they will have 3.10.04
11:30 cait            hm should be baed on the latest 3.10.x version I think?
11:30 cait            one second
11:30 cait            Iwill try to generate files
11:30 cait            gaetan_B: it shoudl show up in the list now for you
11:29 cait            let's do one after the other then
11:29 cait            ah ok
11:29 gaetan_B        actually i don't even know how to generate the files !
11:29 gaetan_B        still nothing, i need a 3.10 project yes
11:28 cait            and do youneed 3.10 too?
11:28 cait            can you upload the files yourself?
11:27 cait            try now :)
11:26 cait            trying to figure that out
11:26 cait            i have to add a project now I think
11:26 gaetan_B        ah ok sorry :)
11:25 cait            not done yet :)
11:25 gaetan_B        hmm can't find it on pootle
11:24 gaetan_B        yeah :)
11:23 cait            so you can take the blame
11:23 cait            ok, we got a language now and I made you admin for it ;)
11:23 gaetan_B        what do you mean by description ?
11:23 gaetan_B        i'll take all the blame required
11:23 gaetan_B        :D
11:23 cait            ok, ruth might kill me, but I am adding some things to pootle right now
11:22 cait            and the descripton?
11:22 gaetan_B        i guess it's not super necessary ;)
11:22 gaetan_B        but since we probably won't have another project in kurdish with the latin script
11:22 gaetan_B        ideally we should add something that means it's the kurdish script and not the latin one, which can also be used for this language
11:21 gaetan_B        for Kurdish Sorani
11:21 cait            let me try something
11:21 gaetan_B        the language code should be ku-sor
11:20 gaetan_B        yep, i'm giving them the translation training tomorrow actually
11:20 cait            if there is a need to?
11:20 cait            we could try and maybe change the code later on?
11:20 cait            but if you give me a language code...
11:20 cait            becasue the scripts need to be adapted
11:20 cait            the problem is we can't totally do it without druthb probably
11:19 cait            hm
11:19 gaetan_B        do you know how to create one ?
11:19 gaetan_B        no
11:19 cait            druthb hasn#t come back to you?
11:19 gaetan_B        do you think we could create it today ?
11:19 cait            ah
11:19 gaetan_B        i wanted to ask you about the translation project
11:19 gaetan_B        week end is friday / saturday so i am working here
11:18 gaetan_B        cait: good !
11:18 cait            how is things?
11:18 cait            yep
11:17 gaetan_B        hi cait :) are you around ?
09:15 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9535 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
09:15 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9947 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield
09:15 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Rebuild zebra reports double numbers for exported records with -z option
09:15 jenkins_koha    * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 9535 - Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
09:15 jenkins_koha    * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9947 - Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield
09:15 jenkins_koha    * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9609: Rebuilding zebra reports double number of exported records.
09:15 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #296: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/296/
09:08 magnuse         i have not had time to investigate the details yet
09:08 magnuse         i have one customer reporting that she gets logged out when she tried to save sysprefs
09:07 tweetbot        [off] twitter: @27point7: "Retour Americain sur le Hackfest koha de marseille RT @clrh @oleonard @ByWaterSolution http://t.co/1rVp8lIeyj #kohails"
09:07 cait            no I don#t think that was the problem :) but good to know
09:06 jeff            of course, if it was multiple libraries... perhaps unlikely that all of their clocks were off -- unless it was all the same set of server-side systems and THEIR clocks were off...
09:06 jeff            ie uses absolute cookie expiry times vs firefox (and i think all others) use an offset calculated from the server time and the cookie expiry time.
09:05 jeff            were their local clocks off by a large amount?
09:04 magnuse         ouch
09:04 cait            and we had libraries reporting problems with being ogged out all the time
09:04 cait            oh
09:04 cait            but there is a work around doing it from the basket instead
09:03 cait            drag and drop of baskets into a basket group does not work
09:03 cait            magnuse: not much but a bit
09:02 magnuse         hehe, slightly...
09:02 jeff            very different scope.
09:02 * jeff          read that as "internet"
08:59 magnuse         does anyone have an idea about how much of the intranet is problematic in internet explorer?
08:49 cait            heh
08:47 magnuse         and i'd love to see it get in to 3.12, dont get me wrong :-)
08:46 magnuse         yeah, kind of :-)
08:45 cait            .... and it is kind of a bug fix...
08:42 magnuse         yeah, there should be no side effects
08:42 cait            adding additional scripts seems pretty save, jcamins can decide
08:42 magnuse         i hope i can find the time to test it
08:42 magnuse         cool
08:42 cait            magnuse: i would say leave it :)
08:41 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10041 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Provide a koha-translate script to aid package users on installing translations
08:41 magnuse         hm, isn't Bug 10041 an enh? or do we give special treatment to improvements to the packages?
08:41 ndroftheline    oooooh misunderstood your versioning
08:41 cait            ndroftheline: we are still doign bugfix releases for 3.8 and 3.10 - what you saw was jenkins running the tests as rangi pushed some bug fixes to those brnaches
08:40 cait            may 22nd
08:40 magnuse         3.12 is due out in ~1.5 months
08:40 magnuse         3.8 is oldstable
08:39 magnuse         3.10 is the current stable branch
08:39 magnuse         no, 3.8 is very stable
08:39 ndroftheline    wow you guys are at 3.8 in unstable? awesome.
08:36 jenkins_koha    Starting build #296 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:36 cait            where weird probably means something only libraries are using :P
08:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7449 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup
08:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9535 major, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
08:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9947 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield
08:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Rebuild zebra reports double numbers for exported records with -z option
08:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9838 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , SIP tests : fix in 04patron_status.t
08:36 jenkins_koha    * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7449: billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup
08:36 jenkins_koha    * Chris Nighswonger: Bug 9535 - Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
08:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9571 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
08:36 jenkins_koha    * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9947 - Creating item for received serial prefills enumchron subfield
08:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9952 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , MARC tab: tab 0 is not translated correctly
08:36 jenkins_koha    * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9609: Rebuilding zebra reports double number of exported records.
08:36 jenkins_koha    * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9838: fix on 04patron_status.t
08:36 jenkins_koha    * David Cook: Bug 9571 - Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
08:36 jenkins_koha    * Owen Leonard: Bug 9571 [Alternate] Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
08:36 jenkins_koha    * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9952: translation of the "tab 0" in MARC detail
08:36 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.10.x build #94: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/94/
08:36 ndroftheline    sounds like there are a few weird perl modules required that peple have trouble with sometimes...?
08:36 ndroftheline    oh yes i'm sure that will be the fun part
08:35 magnuse         ndroftheline: getting all the dependencies installed will probably be the fun part...
08:33 ndroftheline    http://download.koha-community.org/koha-3.10.04.tar.gz
08:33 ndroftheline    thanks! but i needed the tarball, and i already found it (:
08:33 cait            and http://debian.koha-community.org
08:32 wahanui         well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
08:32 cait            but packages?
08:32 cait            ah not yet in the debian repos yet I think?
08:31 ndroftheline    oh nvm got it
08:31 ndroftheline    where can i find your release tree? i need a tarball package with a specific version to package it
08:25 ndroftheline    yeah but i'm still something of a noob packager and i'm working on kiwix first, but koha is definitely on my list of must-haves, so i'll at least get it installed
08:25 magnuse         that would be cool
08:25 ndroftheline    hrm...maybe i will package you for fedora
08:24 magnuse         ndroftheline: nope
08:24 magnuse         ndroftheline: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze
08:24 ndroftheline    nice! you obviously don't have a packager for fedora yet, right?
08:24 magnuse         ndroftheline: yup
08:24 ndroftheline    oh, cool! are those in the debian repos?
08:23 cait            we have debian packages now that also work for ubuntu, so that's the route most people go
08:22 cait            not sure how different fedora is to other linux distributions
08:22 cait            and so it might not be best to follow that
08:22 cait            probably noone updated it since then
08:21 ndroftheline    has the install process not changed since fc7?
08:21 ndroftheline    huh...there are instructions for fedora core 7
08:20 ndroftheline    woops, sorry - got distracted installing something else
08:15 wahanui         well, wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org
08:15 cait            wiki?
08:15 cait            did you check the wiki?
08:14 cait            not me, but someone certainly has
08:14 ndroftheline    hail, friends! i'd like to get koha installed on fedora 18, has anybody in here done that?
08:13 * magnuse       discovers http://libill.hartford.edu/koha/index.asp
08:13 cait            hi ndroftheline
08:11 cait            can i close this?
08:11 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6274 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Permanent storage of user-uploaded files
08:11 cait            hm bug 6274
08:06 cait            missed that scrolling back up
08:06 cait            oh thx
08:05 jeff            cait: from earlier: magnuse: this is some of the research i was doing to prep for the talk I gave at the Evergreen conference yesterday: http://goo.gl/ZbMQ4 and this is a copy of my slides: http://goo.gl/0ya0K
08:05 magnuse         hehe
08:05 jeff            thanks. as noted, this representation of the idea came from somewhere else... i think a link pasted in #code4lib months back to someone's photo of a whiteboard sketch. not certain. :-)
08:05 cait            slide? where? :)
08:03 magnuse         well, it's sad, really, but a nice visualisation of it...
08:02 magnuse         jeff: i love slide #28 - Library Technology Standards v.s. Everything Else
08:01 magnuse         no bug for it yet, though?
08:00 magnuse         ah, thanks
07:59 rangi           magnuse: opds
07:59 magnuse         sounds like an interesting idea!
07:58 magnuse         jeff: the url worked nicely
07:57 jeff            now that i've seen koha-restful, once i get some license clarification (and hey, library-rest-api has no license specified -- oops!) i may use it for some additional inspiration.
07:56 jeff            ugh. that was wordy. please let me know i truncated before the url. :-)
07:56 jeff            myself and some others in the Evergreen community have started hacking on a proof of concept RESTful api for library systems with a pluggable implementation layer, similar to SIPServer (which I know has since been forked for inclusion in Koha). very very early experimental stages, but the idea is to have it be callable by mod_perl on an evergreen system or plack/etc on a koha system: https://github.com/tadl/library-rest-api
07:55 jenkins_koha    Starting build #94 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:55 magnuse         rangi: what was that electronic resource thing you were working on again?
07:52 magnuse         jeff++
07:50 rangi           yeah
07:49 jeff            i made a similar assumption, but i'll try to ask and perhaps it can be made more explicit. :-)
07:48 magnuse         jeff: i woul assume the license is compatible with koha, but you'd better ask paul_p or maybe clrh when they are around
07:48 rangi           jeff: it'd have to be gpl3+ or compatible, or you cant actually use it with Koha, but yeah they should put a license statement
07:48 cait            *confused*
07:48 cait            not sure I understand what you mean
07:48 rangi           ah yep it is cool
07:47 rangi           to data methods
07:47 rangi           authentication methods are quite different
07:47 jeff            i've had a few conversations in here about koha's restful and rest-style API support, but i think today is the first i've come across koha-restful, http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha-restful;a=summary -- anyone know what license that is under? there doesn't seem to be any license in the repo or in the source files.
07:46 cait            hm?
07:46 rangi           cait: maybe we should split it into types of API
07:45 cait            to the list
07:45 jeff            and of course gmcharlt put out a similar blog post calling for API users to stand and be counted: http://evergreen-ils.org/blog/?p=966
07:45 cait            rangi: I added persona :)
07:44 magnuse         jeff: very cool, thanks!
07:44 jeff            magnuse: this is some of the research i was doing to prep for the talk I gave at the Evergreen conference yesterday: http://goo.gl/ZbMQ4 and this is a copy of my slides: http://goo.gl/0ya0K
07:44 rangi           x509 and persona
07:44 rangi           CAS
07:44 rangi           LDAP
07:44 rangi           we should have a list of those too
07:44 rangi           client side certs .. not really its an authentication method
07:43 rangi           x509?
07:42 magnuse         rangi: would the x.somenumber thing you did for authentication qualify for "my" list?
07:41 magnuse         jeff: is it available anywhere?
07:36 jeff            heh. i just did a survey of that kind of thing for Evergreen.
07:31 cait            hm
07:31 magnuse         yay
07:31 cait            I added 2 :)
07:31 magnuse         or should it include the apis we get information *from*, for example for enhanced content?
07:31 magnuse         hm, should that page only show things where koha acts as the server?
07:30 magnuse         sure
07:30 cait            CAS maybe?
07:30 cait            :)
07:29 rangi           cool :)
07:29 magnuse         it's a start... http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/APIs_and_protocols_supported_by_Koha
07:17 cait            magnuse++ :)
07:15 magnuse         and hi rangi
07:15 magnuse         i'll start one on the wiki then
07:15 rangi           hi cait and magnuse
07:15 rangi           no but we should make one
07:14 magnuse         it would be quite an impressice list...
07:14 magnuse         is there some page somewhere that lists all the APIs and protocols koha supports?
07:14 cait            hi #koha
07:14 cait            hey magnuse :)
07:13 * magnuse       waves
07:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9838 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , SIP tests : fix in 04patron_status.t
07:03 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9571 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
07:03 jenkins_koha    * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9838: fix on 04patron_status.t
07:03 jenkins_koha    * David Cook: Bug 9571 - Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
07:03 jenkins_koha    * Owen Leonard: Bug 9571 [Alternate] Fix width for textareas in Edit Item screen
07:03 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.8.x build #295: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/295/
06:55 * magnuse       waves
06:26 jenkins_koha    Starting build #295 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
04:07 bag             :)
04:00 jeff            jcamins: there was a pretty good tradition on usenet for people who were quite obviously asking homework questions of a newsgroup... try to give answers that should be glaringly obviously wrong without being noticed by the requestor
03:15 bag             oh jcamins that's funny
03:15 bag             evening
03:03 jcamins         "Hi, I got an RFP, and I don't feel like answering it. Please do my work for me."
03:02 jcamins         Are you kidding me?
00:44 jcamins         Good night. :)
00:43 tcohen          ok, pizza party, here we go, good night jcamins !
00:41 tcohen          *and she's not ready yet*
00:41 jcamins         Hehe.
00:41 tcohen          heh
00:41 tcohen          got time to send two patches
00:41 tcohen          i was waiting for my gf to be ready to go out
00:40 jcamins         Time for dinner, then sleep.
00:40 jcamins         We just got back.
00:39 tcohen          will go out tonight?
00:39 tcohen          u need to enjoy it then
00:37 jcamins         The last day is tomorrow. :(
00:37 tcohen          s/h//
00:37 jcamins         Book fair!
00:37 jcamins         Yup.
00:36 tcohen          where u offline today?
00:28 jcamins         Lots of e-mail.
00:28 jcamins         Wow.