Time Nick Message 00:43 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 01:44 wizzyrea hiyas 01:47 ribbit hey 02:52 alohabot Hi mib_tm, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 02:53 mib_tm Hi! How do I save a search result in client to Excel file? 02:58 jcamins mib_tm: that feature is not built into Koha. 03:42 drojf http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/28/4157982/amazon-to-acquire-book-recommendation-social-network-goodreads 03:49 wizzyrea mib_tm: probably the best we could do would be to put the results of the search in the cart, and download that. 04:42 rangi oh man, now i have to stop working on goodreads stuff 04:47 Oak kia ora #koha 04:52 jeff rangi: i stopped working on goodreads stuff (unrelated to koha) when i saw the quality of the reviews on popular items. youtube comments with slightly better grammar and more animated gifs. :-( 04:54 rangi tis true, but the lists thing would have been kinda cool, to allow you to sync your koha lists with your goodreads ones 04:55 * jeff nods 04:55 jeff i do hope that amazon doesn't completely change the ToS to be unfriendly 04:57 rangi yeah, they do seem to do that quite a lot 05:01 jeff and someone pointed out that amazon already owns (by way of abebooks) a 40% stake in librarything 05:06 rangi yep 06:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #82 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:15 bag well I like seeing SUCESS jenkins :) and with that catch you later koha peeps :) 06:15 bag SUCCESS 06:15 rangi cya bag 06:32 cait morning #koha 06:33 rangi hi cait 06:33 cait oh hey rangi 06:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #82: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/82/ 06:51 jenkins_koha Liz Rea: Bug 8979 - simple addition of news to CCSR theme 06:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8979 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , "News" does not work with CCSR 06:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #285 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 06:52 cait being busy? :) 06:52 rangi yup 06:52 christophe_c hello 06:58 cait hi christophe_c :) 06:58 christophe_c bonjour cait ;-) 07:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #285: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/285/ 07:30 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 9341: Problem with UNIMARC authors facets 07:30 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bump db number 07:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets 07:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #83 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 07:32 rangi right finally caught up 07:33 cait yay :) 07:48 reiveune hello 07:49 rangi hi sophie_m and reiveune 07:49 marcelr hello #koha 07:50 cait hi marcelr :) 07:50 marcelr hi cait 07:50 * cait continues work on bug 9922 07:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9922 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , holds queue shows home library with AutomaticReturn 07:50 marcelr great 07:50 marcelr still looking at 6554 07:50 cait today is a holiday here :) 07:50 cait bug 6554 07:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates 07:50 marcelr new name 07:50 cait better :) 07:51 cait I am a bit worried about dpavlin's suggestion 07:51 cait it seemed the the docs werenot recommending it? 07:51 marcelr that what i thought too 07:51 marcelr therefore decoding 07:51 cait ok 07:51 marcelr but probably it does not matter too much for koha 07:52 cait I am a bit lost there - glad you and bernardo are working on it 07:52 marcelr :) 07:52 cait i guess there should be some kind of best practice? 07:52 marcelr i will search a little there still 07:53 sophie_m hello rangi and #koha 07:54 marcelr hi sophie_m 07:56 cait hi sophie_m and wizzyrea :) 07:56 wizzyrea hi cait 07:57 cait hm ok 07:57 cait wizzyrea: I am retesting the holds bug 07:57 cait and I got a question 07:57 cait :) 07:57 wizzyrea ok shoot 07:57 cait what I did: 07:58 cait record with 1 item, I am at library A, item is at library B (holding library) 07:58 cait but it belongs to A normally 07:58 wizzyrea sure 07:58 cait :) 07:58 cait I put a record level hold on it 07:58 cait and it bheaving like described on bug - so far so good :) 07:58 wizzyrea cool 07:58 cait but now I tried to undo my confusion about item level holds and I think what I see is werid 07:58 cait so cancelled my hold 07:59 cait transformed it into an item level hold on the item 07:59 cait it is still at library B 07:59 cait when i rerun holds queue, it shows up on the holds queue for library A 07:59 cait but it's not here 07:59 cait it's at B 07:59 cait so noone owuld go and pick it for me? 08:00 wizzyrea right 08:00 wizzyrea this is without the patch right? 08:00 cait ok 08:00 cait scratch that 08:00 cait it's on no list 08:00 * cait is confused 08:00 wizzyrea it's possible that there is more than one bug in the hold queue. 08:01 cait yeah it looks like another bug 08:01 cait I will retest on master again 08:01 cait but maybe you could take a look? ah no... you are off work :) 08:01 wizzyrea but we are really concerned with his question of "we do not ever pick items from home branch" 08:01 wizzyrea well yea, but I can look later. 08:01 wizzyrea :) 08:01 Joubu hi #koha 08:01 cait you are really concerned about what? 08:01 wizzyrea right now, in master 08:01 wizzyrea depending on automaticitemreturn 08:01 cait ok, test case is item level hold on an available item at another branch :) 08:02 wizzyrea we are picking items from home branches 08:02 cait yeah that's wrong 08:02 cait they are not there 08:02 wizzyrea and... that 08:02 cait :) 08:03 wizzyrea just ummmmmm file a bug about the item level ones 08:03 cait i will 08:03 wizzyrea or... send me email or something 08:03 cait and pass that one 08:03 cait just wanted to check it's not a regression with th epatch 08:03 wizzyrea just so I don't forget :) 08:03 cait but it behaves same on master for me 08:03 wizzyrea well I haven't tested that, truthfully 08:03 wizzyrea but it would NOT at all surprise me if there were another bug. 08:03 cait cc you? :) 08:03 wizzyrea sure that would be lovely 08:03 wizzyrea or assign me for purposes of testing 08:04 cait ok 08:04 cait on it right now, but first passing qa on that record level fix 08:05 cait if it's something in my installation you can still mark it invalid :) 08:05 cait but it matches what I saw the first night at least and what got me so confused about 9922 08:08 cait wizzyrea: 9922 passed all tests and QA :) 08:09 cait wizzyrea: which email do I assign to? 08:09 cait your gmail or catalyst one? 08:10 francharb hello #koha 08:10 rangi hi francharb 08:10 rangi wizzyrea: i got as far as this There was an error in your Gemfile, and Bundler cannot continue 08:10 rangi with selfstarter 08:10 rangi then i remember i hate rails and ruby gems with a passion, and gave up 08:11 cait lol 08:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #83: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/83/ 08:11 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 9341: Problem with UNIMARC authors facets 08:11 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping the version number 08:11 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 9727: Fix typo in variable name 08:11 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 9841 - Improve the link from the "logged in as mysql-user"-warning 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Stable , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets 08:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9415: XML catalog export is missing root node 08:11 cait yah, that sounds like you 08:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9423: Add notforloan value to issue confirmation or blocking message 08:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7018 : need all acq permissions to search 08:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9504: URL escape in OPAC more searches 08:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7875: Change the pending suggestion link in home page so that it directs to pending suggestions 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9727 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Typo in code causes compilation failure with Solr enabled 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9841 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Improve the link from the "logged in as mysql-user"-warning 08:11 cait hating ruby 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9415 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , XML catalog export is missing root node 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9423 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Add notforloan value to issue confirmation or blocking message 08:11 rangi ruby is ok 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7018 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , need all acq permissions to search 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9504 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , URL escape in OPAC more searches 08:11 * cait hides her messages in jenkins :) 08:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7875 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Pending suggestion link (the numbers) from staff client home directs to accepted suggestions instead of pending 08:11 rangi rails is horrid 08:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #286 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:11 rangi and gems is a ridiculous attempt at packaging 08:14 cait rangi: that might be similar to my feelings about holds 08:15 cait in theory... they are a very good idea... but... 08:15 cait hi francharb :) 08:16 francharb hi rangi, hi cait 08:16 cait @later tell wizzyrea - bug 9950 08:16 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 08:26 cait looking at bug 9381 now 08:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9381 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Add Catalan language 08:27 marcelr cait: i already glanced thru that; there should be some way to simplify such things in future :) 08:27 cait i agre 08:28 cait I am not sure I filed a bug for it or not 08:28 cait .. hm. 08:28 cait I think we shoudl do it the same way as sysprfs 08:28 marcelr yes 08:28 cait one global file for all 08:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #286: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/286/ 08:48 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7018 : need all acq permissions to search 08:48 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 7875: Change the pending suggestion link in home page so that it directs to pending suggestions 08:48 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9748: don't link items in SCO checkout list back to main OPAC 08:48 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 9802 - add test case to ensure man pages have correct XML 08:48 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8378 - <fine> in overdues changed to <<items.fine>> 08:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7018 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , need all acq permissions to search 08:48 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8378 - show all items columns and new items.fine 08:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7875 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Pending suggestion link (the numbers) from staff client home directs to accepted suggestions instead of pending 08:48 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8378 - followup - sample_notices.sql updated to <<items.fine>> 08:48 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8378 - followup - update notices to use <<items.fine>> 08:49 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version 08:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9748 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , noitemlinks not being enforced 08:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9802 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add test case to verify package man pages are well formatted 08:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #84 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 08:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 09:00 Bolf hello can somebody give me littlle consultation about koha 09:00 rangi we won't know until you ask your question 09:01 Bolf is it a good program for work in Medic library 09:02 rangi yes, it is in use in a lot of medical libraries 09:03 Bolf could you give me example?? 09:04 Bolf what languages of programm are avalible?? 09:05 rangi http://translate.koha-community.org/ 09:05 rangi http://gwahsopac.intersearch.com.au/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 09:05 rangi http://kgh.koha-ptfs.eu/ 09:07 cait also: http://beckercat.wustl.edu/ 09:09 cait marcelr++ 09:11 marcelr :) 09:13 gaetan_B hello 09:15 cait hi gaetan_B 09:15 gaetan_B hi cait :) did you get rid of your cold ? 09:16 cait hi gaetan_B - yes i did :) and it helps that today is a holiday here 09:16 cait so long weekend 09:16 gaetan_B oh lucky you :) 09:21 cait yep :) 09:21 cait judging from wizzyrea's post on facebook it's also in nz? rangi? 09:23 rangi yep 09:23 rangi friday and monday 09:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #84: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/84/ 09:29 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9748: don't link items in SCO checkout list back to main OPAC 09:29 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 9802 - add test case to ensure man pages have correct XML 09:29 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8378 - <fine> in overdues changed to <<items.fine>> 09:29 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8378 - show all items columns and new items.fine 09:29 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8378 - followup - sample_notices.sql updated to <<items.fine>> 09:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9748 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , noitemlinks not being enforced 09:29 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8378 - followup - update notices to use <<items.fine>> 09:29 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping db version 09:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9802 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add test case to verify package man pages are well formatted 09:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 09:29 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 9496: improve error checking in rebuild_zebra.pl 09:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9496 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , rebuild_zebra.pl should handle invalid XML records better 10:00 * wizzyrea waves 10:03 cait wb wizzyrea :) 10:03 wizzyrea hehe ty. 10:03 wizzyrea got your message, maybe i'll poke at it 10:03 wizzyrea tonight 10:07 wizzyrea I just finished poking at bug 9894 10:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9894 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , 'hidden' value is hard to understand in frameworks 10:11 cait awesome :) 10:13 wizzyrea I don't know what "flagging" a subfield does 10:13 wizzyrea but it's now supported. :P 10:13 wizzyrea so if you know, please pipe up. 10:13 cait no ide 10:13 cait a 10:13 cait where is that? 10:13 wahanui that is probably in march? 10:13 cait forget that? 10:13 wahanui cait: I forgot that 10:13 wizzyrea in the visibility section of the subfield editor 10:14 wizzyrea er, I think it's labeled hidden now 10:14 wizzyrea yea, hidden 10:14 wizzyrea under show more constraints 10:14 cait no idea 10:14 wizzyrea it's in the online help 10:14 cait and does the help states what it does? 10:15 wizzyrea no, not at all. 10:15 wizzyrea it just notes its existence 10:15 wizzyrea and jonathan brought it up as part of qa 10:15 wizzyrea technically that bit could go away, it was really just an excuse to muck around in jquery :P 10:15 wizzyrea if it comes to that 10:16 wizzyrea (and javascript) 10:16 cait heh 10:16 cait maybe if it was there before we should not kill it 10:16 wizzyrea yea, that was my thought 10:16 cait but ask for a follow up explaining what it does? 10:16 wizzyrea i mean, it was there, it should probably stay supported. 10:17 cait yeah 10:17 wizzyrea hehe yea, exactly 10:17 cait still.. makes you curious 10:17 wizzyrea yea, exactly. 10:17 wizzyrea i suppose we could do this by the power of science. 10:17 wizzyrea let's investigate! 10:18 cait hehe 10:18 wizzyrea well it thinks that a -8 is "hidden" 10:19 wizzyrea and it does not show in the editor... 10:20 wizzyrea i wonder how it's different from, say, !opac !intranet !editor... 10:20 cait btw - shouldn't you be sleeping or helping the easter bunny to hide eggs? 10:21 wizzyrea oh it's 11:15 10:21 wizzyrea shops were closed today, I couldn't get my chocolate egg buying thing on 10:22 wizzyrea I need to get a basket going for spud tho. 10:22 * wizzyrea is a terrible procrastinator 10:22 cait hehe 10:22 wizzyrea (for that kind of stuff) 10:22 cait it helps to get other things done... 10:22 cait see that good side of it :) 10:22 wizzyrea hee yea 10:32 * cait finishes scrubbing her kitchen clen 10:37 marcelr well jcamins, bug 6554 is for you now ;) 10:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, dpavlin, Passed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates 11:10 jcamins marcelr++ 11:12 marcelr :) 11:29 cait morning jcamins :) 11:30 Oak guten tag cait 11:36 cait hi Oak :) 12:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #313 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 12:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #313: SUCCESS in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/313/ 12:09 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 12:20 druthb o/ 12:22 cait hi druthb 12:22 druthb :) 13:08 cait marcelr++ again :) 13:10 marcelr hi cait 13:11 marcelr cait: first in the qa queue is my own supertiny oneliner for zebra ;) 13:11 cait :) 13:11 cait heh 13:11 cait sec, I am looking for it 13:11 cait had to get the apartment cleaned up and tidied, but coming back to qa right now 13:11 marcelr i cannot do it myself.. 13:11 marcelr no worries 13:12 cait bug 9609? 13:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9609 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Rebuild zebra reports double numbers for exported records with -z option 13:12 marcelr yes 13:13 cait ok :) 13:13 cait will you be around a bit longer? 13:13 marcelr very trivial 13:13 marcelr not so much 13:13 cait I wanted to ask about the workflow behind your holds patches 13:14 marcelr :) 13:14 cait i was wondering how it works all together :) 13:14 marcelr which one in fact? 13:14 cait you did a couple i think 13:14 cait let me see 13:14 marcelr i have even more here 13:14 marcelr :) 13:14 cait bug 9761 13:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9761 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Make it possible to confirm future hold requests at checkin time 13:15 cait I was wondering if this was going in direction of stacks or reservations 13:15 marcelr very nice one with bug 9788 13:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9788 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Improvements for calling GetReservesFromItemnumber 13:15 marcelr what do you mean with stacks 13:16 cait in german we call them magazin 13:16 cait an area where patrons can't go 13:16 marcelr tijdschriften? 13:17 marcelr it is based on reading room concept 13:17 cait ah 13:17 cait so people can put a hold, because they want to use it at this time in the reading room? 13:17 cait something like that? 13:17 marcelr but can be much wider used 13:17 marcelr yes 13:17 marcelr we want to collect these books in front of time 13:17 marcelr and confirm them a day or so earlier 13:18 marcelr point is more they come from a depot than that they are read in reading room actually 13:19 cait ah 13:19 cait I think a depot would translate to closed stacks somehow :) 13:20 cait an area not in the library where patrons can't go and it takes some time to get the books :) 13:20 marcelr ok now we are round :) 13:20 marcelr yes 13:22 cait interesting features :) 13:22 marcelr yeah i would really like them to go in 13:22 marcelr i have more patches to convert to master for that still 13:22 marcelr and what about sru.. ;) 13:30 cait oh yes :) 13:30 cait sru! :) 13:30 marcelr will try again in some weeks :) 13:30 cait :) 13:43 marcelr 30 in passed qa now; time to go :) 14:23 gaetan_B druthb: hello ! do you have a few minutes for me and my quest for understanding rtl ? 14:24 druthb sure. :) 14:26 gaetan_B great :) 14:26 gaetan_B so, i see there has been quite a lot of work on making the interface work with an rtl language 14:26 gaetan_B i'll have a deeper look at this 14:26 gaetan_B but what i am confused with right now 14:27 gaetan_B is how i should go about handling the data 14:27 gaetan_B when it has bidirectionnal text 14:27 druthb Right. The big problem is we have a LOT of CSS in there that has float:left and similar sorts of things. But the languages table actually *tells* which languages are RTL. 14:28 druthb So my patch for that looks, and if the current language is one of those, it just inserts some CSS to override those. Obviously, that patch needs updating for 3.10/3.12. 14:28 druthb When I was working with it (with some Arabic speakers), they didn't seem to have any big trouble with bi-directional, with that patch. So it may have been on the right track. 14:29 gaetan_B actually right now i'm more concerned with making sure a title such as : 14:29 gaetan_B تعلم HTML4 ÙÙ‰ 24 درسا 14:29 gaetan_B displays properly in both an rtl and an ltr interface 14:29 gaetan_B right now if you create a record with this title, it will not work out very well 14:29 gaetan_B but 14:29 gaetan_B i'm not even sure there is a good solution to this problem 14:30 druthb I've got on my queue to get back to my patch. It *seemed* to resolve that correctly, by taking the viewpoint of "let the browser do that, it knows how." 14:31 gaetan_B i need to look into your patch i guess :) 14:32 druthb Take a look. Like I said, it needs updating, as it was done under 3.6.x, and the staff client in particular has changed since then. 14:34 gaetan_B druthb: one thing that would help right now was if i could find examples of records who mix both directions. Do you have any at hand ? Or something on the catalog for the project you did in Kordan ? 14:34 gaetan_B s/Kordan/Jordan/ 14:34 druthb I don't have anything on tap right here, but you could create a dummy record with the title you posted a few minutes ago. :) 14:35 druthb (that's what I did—I don't read a bit of Arabic. It's a strange irony, that the Translation Manager only speaks English.) 14:35 gaetan_B oh, and also francharb is asking me to say hi ;) druthb 14:35 * druthb waves to francharb 14:35 francharb francharb waves to druthb 14:35 * francharb waves to druthb 14:36 francharb better that way 14:36 francharb ;) 14:36 druthb :D 14:36 francharb double waves are better 14:36 francharb ;) 14:38 druthb gaetan_B: I'm still unpacking from a big move at my house, so it'll probably be a week or two before I get any time to start hacking on that RTL patch, but it's one of the things right near the top of my list, when I can. I want that problem solved. 14:38 gaetan_B cool, keep me informed, i will try to help 14:38 gaetan_B i am still at a stage where i am just trying to figure things out though 14:38 druthb great. At some point, I'll need a signoff for it! :) 14:39 gaetan_B well, i don't read Arabic, but i'll manage something with Karam 14:40 druthb :) 14:40 druthb I have a couple of friends who read Arabic, too. And Hebrew, which is also RTL, IIRC. 14:40 gaetan_B it is indeed 14:50 jcamins Actually, Hebrew tends to have slightly (but only slightly!) fewer problems with mixed-direction text. 14:50 jcamins Probably just because it's easier to spot the spaces. 14:50 druthb heh 14:52 jcamins druthb: do you get off today? 14:52 jcamins It's a holiday, apparently. 14:52 jcamins (who knew!) 14:52 druthb nope. I'm in workin. 14:53 * jcamins too 14:53 druthb Our next holiday is Memorial Day. 14:53 jcamins Bet you're shocked, eh? :P 14:53 druthb I still have a *lot* of culture shocks going on here. 14:54 * jcamins was referring to the fact that he was working as a shock. 14:54 druthb :P 14:55 druthb Shari and I share the opinion, I think, that you work too much. But if ya gotta, ya gotta. 15:08 rambutan @seen druthb 15:08 huginn rambutan: druthb was last seen in #koha 12 minutes and 23 seconds ago: <druthb> Shari and I share the opinion, I think, that you work too much. But if ya gotta, ya gotta. 15:08 jcamins khall: around? 15:10 druthb @seen rambutan 15:10 huginn druthb: rambutan was last seen in #koha 2 minutes and 28 seconds ago: <rambutan> @seen druthb 15:10 druthb :P 15:43 gmcharlt heh 15:44 rambutan ehh 15:47 datadoctor Has anyone worked on a self-pay station for Koha, where patrons can pay their fines using a credit card? 15:48 jcamins datadoctor: it can be done if you have a SIP payment thing. 15:49 datadoctor I was thinking of using the Paypal API - I think it can direct a credit card payment without requiring the patron to create a Paypal account. Of course there would be transaction fees and percentages. 15:49 cait i think that would be better separate from koha 15:50 cait or maybe a plugin 15:50 jcamins Definitely. 15:50 jcamins No, not a plugin. 15:50 datadoctor That makes sense. 15:50 jcamins Separate. 15:50 cait k 15:50 jcamins Communicate via SIP. 15:51 jcamins When dealing with money, you want to separate things as much as possible so that if there's an exploit, the minimum number of people are impacted. 15:51 datadoctor I like the SIP advice. 15:52 datadoctor And I will think through the security issues carefully. If I can separate the system from Koha that is ideal, however I do want to pull fines information and push fines resolutions. 15:53 cait that should be possible 15:53 cait using sip I think 15:54 cait there might be a sip/fine related patch in bugzilla 15:54 datadoctor Interesting. 15:54 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 15:55 gaetan_B bye koha, happy easter ! 15:55 datadoctor happy easter! 15:56 datadoctor watch for giant rabbits. 15:58 cait scary :) 15:58 datadoctor thanks for the advice on fines payment jcamins and cait - I'll let you know if anything develops here. 16:07 reiveune bye 16:32 * Oak waves 16:32 Oak jcamins++ 17:00 Joubu have a good week end #koha! 17:02 cait you too Joubu :) 17:36 cait @wunder Konstanz 17:36 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.3°C (6:30 PM CET on March 29, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 18:03 bag @wunder 93102 18:03 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 14.6°C (10:59 AM PDT on March 29, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 18:06 druthb @wunder 77063 18:06 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 25.1°C (1:01 PM CDT on March 29, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 18:07 druthb yo bag! 18:07 bag yo druthb 18:07 bag hot there eh? 18:07 druthb I was just thinking of you…. There's a guy across the hall from me here who has a taste of your laid-back attitude. 18:07 druthb (he wears shorts and flip-flops to work, even) 18:08 bag well at least I brush my teeth :P 18:08 druthb I've not gotten close enough to Kurt to figure that out, but I think he does. He keeps his office dark, so it's hard to tell. 18:08 bag find out if he brews his own beer :) then you'll know :P 18:09 druthb heh 18:09 druthb We have lots of interesting characters here. our current RM makes jcamins look tall and fat. 18:10 jcamins lol 18:10 bag is he a skinny hobbit? 18:10 druthb yep! 18:10 bag and that is really hard to believe - if you're talking about the same jcamins I know 18:11 bag jcamins++ you're a tall hobbit - which is one of the "highest" honors 18:11 jcamins Hehe. 18:13 druthb oh! bag, this is right down the street from the office:http://www.myhobbitcafe.com/ 18:13 bag cool 18:14 druthb anyone want to say hi to libsysguy? He's just walked into my office. 18:15 * cait waves 18:15 * jcamins waves 18:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #287 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:12 rangi wow that was a useful message 19:12 rangi spammers-- 19:14 jcamins Why yes, thank you, I would like you to use Javascript to redirect me to your home page when I leave my web browser open to a record in the catalog for a while. 19:15 jcamins I'm sure no one would ever open up a record and then go look at something else for a while. 19:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #287: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/287/ 19:18 jenkins_koha David Cook: Bug 9781 - Fix bug in 3.8.x (dynarch) calendar positioning in IE 19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9781 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , [3.6.X/3.8.x] Fix dynarch calendar positioning in IE 19:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #288 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #288: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/288/ 20:01 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8942 : Adding a test to make sure we don't use single quotes for js 20:01 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 8942: Translation process breaks javascript 20:01 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 8942: Translation process breaks javascript (followup 1) 20:01 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 8942: Translation process breaks javascript (followup 2) 20:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8942 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Translation process breaks javascript in calendar.inc 20:01 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Removing a single quote in the js 20:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #85 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #85: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/85/ 20:42 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 8942 : Adding a test to make sure we don't use single quotes for js 20:42 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 8942: Translation process breaks javascript 20:42 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 8942: Translation process breaks javascript (followup 1) 20:42 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 8942: Translation process breaks javascript (followup 2) 20:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8942 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Translation process breaks javascript in calendar.inc 20:42 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Removing a single quote in the js 20:45 wizzyrea hiyas 20:59 jcamins wizzyrea: wrong bug? 21:01 wizzyrea yea thanks. 21:05 * jcamins calls it a night, heads to Trader Joe's and home.