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23:55 tcohen and next major release is a couple of years far....
23:54 mtompset But why oh why does CentOS 6.4 only have 5.10.x perl? That's like years out of date!
23:54 mtompset If I succeed... then installing Koha should be easy after that.
23:53 jcamins Good news about the Perl libraries!
23:52 mtompset And spelling. :)
23:52 mtompset Just like my bad grammer.
23:52 mtompset I've figured out a way to nicely package the missing perl libraries for Koha. But there getting it there is painful.
23:51 jcamins That would be why I don't use it.
23:51 jcamins Hello.
23:51 mtompset CentOS is a serious pain!
23:51 melia hello mtompset
23:51 mtompset Greetings, melia.
23:51 tcohen hi mtompset
23:51 mtompset Greetings, tcohen and jcamins.
23:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #1097 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 18 hr ago)
23:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , General staff client typo omnibus
23:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9879 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on suggestions management page
23:47 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7368: POD doc in VirtualShelves.pm
23:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9879 - Use DataTables on suggestions management page
23:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1096: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1096/
23:43 melia :)
23:42 jcamins But we hope those cases are few and far between.
23:42 jcamins In some cases I suppose it might not be possible to reverse the sorting.
23:42 melia ok I will ask about that as well. thanks jcamins!
23:42 jcamins Well, usually.
23:42 jcamins Yes, they should reverse the sort.
23:41 melia also, are you supposed to be able to click the little arrow again to sort in the opposite direction, like go from A to Z and change to Z to A? or is it only meant to work in one direction?
23:41 jcamins If you note on the bug which are backwards, oleonard will fix it. :)
23:41 melia ok I will make some notes on the bug report
23:41 jcamins No, that's a problem.
23:41 melia is that normal?
23:41 melia when I sort by Current Location, it gives me Z to A from top to bottom.
23:41 jcamins Makes sense.
23:40 melia for example, when I sort by Title, it gives me A to Z from top to bottom.
23:40 melia so when I sort the columns, they do sort. but I'm not sure if they're sorting the way they're supposed to.
23:40 jcamins Probably not, but we can hope.
23:40 * jcamins might know the answer.
23:40 wahanui rumour has it the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
23:40 jcamins What's the question?
23:40 jcamins Yeah, he leaves at 4ish.
23:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9882 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use DataTables on batch modifications pages
23:40 melia I am trying to test bug 9882 but have a question about how datatables is supposed to work
23:40 melia did I miss oleonard?
23:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8089' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af89f98a7a82e098a5248c4f2d3c9ff3cd5de201> / Bug 8089: Cache sysprefs with Koha::Cache::Object <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2c8262faef00a2727ac201be34d88cdb0544d99> / Merge branch 'bug_8509' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc49dc70fbad
23:36 jcamins ... and I fail it.
23:33 jcamins I complain, a patch appears.
23:33 jcamins Oh, look at that.
23:25 jcamins Have I complained recently about the fact that you have to click "Test prediction pattern" every time you edit a subscription, regardless whether or not you changed it?
23:22 jcamins Don't get burnt to a crisp.
23:21 * rangi ducks out for lunch in the sun
23:10 cait night #koha
23:10 cait like I should be :)
23:10 jcamins Hehe.
23:09 cait asleep probably
23:09 eythian magnus_away: are you arou...oh you're away
22:51 jcamins Yay!
22:49 rangi they use koha .. proper koha :)
22:49 rangi http://www.riversoflearning.com/ls560spring2013/
22:49 jcamins I see it.
22:49 jcamins 4354.
22:48 cait yep
22:48 jcamins Has that passed QA?
22:48 cait lots of good stuff :)
22:48 cait i also like that I will be able to edit issuingrules hopefully
22:47 cait well I like it :)
22:47 cait yep it's nice
22:47 jcamins I knew I had tested it and liked what I saw.
22:47 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
22:47 jcamins Never mind.
22:47 jcamins Oh, right, all good except a missing unit test.
22:46 rangi hmm
22:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Reports hierarchies management improvements
22:46 jcamins Didn't I push bug 9117?
22:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1096 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 17 hr ago)
22:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7368' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4eacc2da29981c258d4256071e3fc62d2e2d4ab> / Bug 7368: POD doc in VirtualShelves.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7575a8eb8f7d69a80f5c71b6a6de1415b024b7a2> / Merge branch 'bug_9879' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22415bc7333727c5dcc7639
22:27 cait ok
22:26 rangi just the 2 now
22:26 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1095/testReport/
22:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1095: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1095/
22:03 cait well not the follwo up in fact but the bug... and that's especiall ynice since I needed an ldap user testing it :)
22:03 cait and dpavlin++ #for testing it :)
22:02 cait rangi++ #qa follow up for 7973
21:57 cait it is :)
21:56 maximep ok, git bz is really amazing
21:54 rangi if it works, all good :)
21:54 maximep don't have time to debug why the branch isn't working for me
21:53 maximep well, I will do those things the good old way :p
21:53 rangi and status
21:53 cait like changing the patch complexity
21:52 cait the fishsoup branch lets you do some cool koha things
21:52 maximep yes, the master works fine after all
21:51 cait did you give it your login information?
21:51 cait maximep: I am runnign git-bz from the current fishsoup brnach and dobrica updated t it today at the hackfest - wonder what's going wrong for you :(
21:50 cait we adapted it to our needs
21:50 cait might be master is the original script
21:50 cait I am not sur ehow it works
21:50 maximep and shouldn't the changes fron that branch be merged back in master someday ?
21:49 cait let me check
21:49 cait werid
21:49 maximep *on git bz apply
21:49 cait hm
21:49 cait oh?
21:49 maximep xmlrpclib.ProtocolError: <ProtocolError for bugs.koha-community.org/xmlrpc.cgi: 404 Not Found>
21:49 maximep well, the fishsoup branch crashes on git apply
21:47 rangi cool
21:47 cait but I will point
21:47 cait no idea
21:47 rangi maybe it needs a new option?
21:46 rangi the reset sets all the env variables to you can run the makefile without needing someone hitting yes
21:46 rangi perl Makefile.PL
21:46 rangi source install_misc/environment_Makefile.PL
21:46 rangi that is what jenkns uses to do its config
21:45 rangi point him to that
21:45 rangi cait: install_misc/environment_Makefile.PL
21:45 cait hm I think i will point him to th elogs here - hopefully he can figure it out
21:44 cait well git checkout -b fishsoup maybe :)
21:44 rangi cait: jenkins does a fresh make everytime, so the update might work .. but its missing something on its fresh one, it might be something needs to be added to the test setup
21:44 cait maximep: I think you are on the master branch of that repo now - try git checkout fishsoup there
21:44 cait I did that today while testing, so it might have changed something
21:43 maximep is that the right branch ?
21:43 cait rangi: hm maybe - I guess you reran makefile with update already?
21:43 maximep cait: I just followed instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration
21:43 rangi khall: so there is most likely some config missing that isnt being added by thte Makefile ?
21:42 rangi khall: i can replicate the jenkins fail on my machine here, check out master and run t/db_dependent/Plugins.t
21:38 cait also make sure you are using the fishsoup branch from th git repo for full koha functionality :)
21:38 cait and set status :)
21:37 rangi git bz attach -e 8337 HEAD
21:37 rangi so you can obsolete the old one
21:37 rangi -e as well
21:36 maximep after my commit, of course
21:36 maximep is all i need to do, right ?
21:36 maximep git bz attach 8337 HEAD
21:36 maximep to send
21:36 maximep ok, first time using git bz
21:36 rangi and them it would be git bz (or git am) applicable
21:36 rangi and attach it
21:36 rangi or git format-patch
21:36 rangi the git bz attach it
21:35 rangi but you could git apply it
21:35 rangi part of git am is git apply
21:35 rangi git bz does git am
21:35 rangi it is possible yes
21:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , System preferences for longoverdue cron
21:34 maximep is it possible that the patch in bug 8337 doesn't apply with git bz apply, but works with git apply ?
21:30 cait rangi: ok - noted
21:25 rangi running build-git-snapshot is a good way to test
21:24 rangi *nod*
21:24 eythian fyi package builds are the easiest way of testing these things, as they're done in a totally clean environment
21:23 cait already been doing that to him today - poor kyle!
21:22 rangi that would be incentive for him i would think :)
21:22 rangi cait: well if the tests aren't passing on jenkins, it might have to come back out, so just say, look at jenkins, and figure out how to fix the failing tests cos you dont want it reverted
21:21 rangi :)
21:21 mtompset I totally forgot about the koha-disable/koha-enable.
21:21 cait I already have a long page of notes for tomorrow next tome
21:20 cait easier with a bugtho :)
21:20 cait hm can try
21:20 rangi hi mtompset
21:20 mtompset rangi++
21:20 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
21:19 rangi can you bug khall about it if you see him :)
21:17 cait yep not that? :)
21:17 rangi maybe it needs some config or something
21:17 rangi # Looks like you planned 20 tests but ran 16.
21:17 rangi Can't call method "GetPlugins" on an undefined value at t/db_dependent/Plugins.t line 44.
21:17 rangi ok 16 - Test $plugin->get_plugin_http_path()
21:16 rangi then
21:16 rangi thats what is failing now
21:16 rangi not ok 13 - Test run plugin report method
21:16 rangi Use of uninitialized value in string eq at t/db_dependent/Plugins.t line 36.
21:16 rangi ok 12 - Test plugin can install
21:16 rangi that was causing it totally asplode
21:16 rangi yep not that
21:15 cait not sure if jared pushed both patches yet, but it worked for me so I could install passing all tests
21:15 cait filed bundled something?
21:15 cait rangi: did you install the new module eythian packaged?
21:14 wahanui bonjour, eythian
21:14 eythian hi
21:14 rangi i think it will just be the plugins code failing tests now, and i dont know how to fix that
21:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #1095 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 16 hr ago)
21:11 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
21:11 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now
20:15 NateC Hi cait!
20:15 cait hi NateC :)
19:58 cait tcohen: i noted it on the bug
19:56 tcohen thanks
19:56 tcohen of course
19:56 jcamins But the sooner the better.
19:56 jcamins So, not quite such a rush.
19:56 cait tcohen: that gives you a bit more time :)
19:55 jcamins Bug.
19:55 jcamins Hm.
19:55 cait jcamins: what do you think?
19:55 cait it is classified as a bug not an enh
19:55 jcamins Yes.
19:55 cait hm the feature deadline is until tomorrow evening I think
19:54 tcohen yes, but not today
19:54 cait do you think you could provide some as a qa follow up? (doesn't need another sign off?)
19:54 cait I only see one problem - missing unit tests for the new subs
19:54 cait no, the signing is no problem - I see you also included all the feedback so far
19:53 cait checking :)
19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports
19:52 tcohen cait, is the signing a problem for bug 9659
19:48 cait bye oleonard :)
19:48 oleonard cait: I think the pfefferminzschnaps worked! I'll have to test more later, though. Time to go.
19:42 tcohen we all hate when there's an evident bug but things work: side effects!
19:42 * cait gives in and hands you den pfefferminzschnaps
19:41 oleonard My favorite part is when DataTables doesn't give an error, it just doesn't do anything at all.
19:40 cait but it could mean a real problem, so I better have someone take a look
19:39 cait yep probably :)
19:39 jcamins Oh, at least it's nice and easy to fix.
19:39 cait too late :)
19:39 cait "my" variable $res masks earlier declaration in same scope
19:39 jcamins It'll show up in my e-mail shortly.
19:39 jcamins Nah.
19:39 cait I just pasted it on the bug - want me to paste it here too?
19:38 jcamins And qa_scripts++ # for catching errors
19:37 jcamins What's the error?
19:37 jcamins :(
19:37 * cait grumps
19:37 cait we have an error in the qa scripts for the ldap patch
19:37 cait of course
19:37 cait *sigh*
19:34 jcamins Good.
19:34 cait but I think it has
19:33 cait hmI will have to check
19:33 jcamins Does it have unit tests?
19:33 jcamins Makes sense.
19:33 cait and if we start with it working for some use cases it can be improved
19:32 cait :)
19:32 cait it probably still needs work - but I think that will only happen when we give people a chance to test drive it
19:31 cait ithink they did - I will ask paul tomorrow
19:31 jcamins Yes, regression tests are important.
19:31 jcamins I would probably be willing to do that.
19:31 cait the testing group wanted to do a regression test
19:30 cait I was also hoping that given there is no serious problemfoudn with edifact tomorrow it might go in as "experimental"
19:29 cait dpavlin++
19:29 cait then I will run it against my test script now
19:29 cait ok
19:29 jcamins Nope.
19:29 cait if it passes the tests i am inclined to pass qa on it - do you want to veto?
19:28 cait as testing ldap is quite hard I asked dobrica for a second sign off
19:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication
19:28 cait jcamins: bug 7973
19:28 jcamins It's very similar to English, if you think about it: "*Were* I you, I wouldn't try to use a subjunctive sentence."
19:27 * cait won't aks what a subjunctive is
19:26 jcamins datadoctor: the Russian subjunctive isn't that difficult.
19:26 datadoctor at least the subjunctive is easier than Russian
19:25 cait anyone feels sthe urge now to learn German?
19:25 cait :P
19:25 jcamins Oh.
19:25 jcamins According to Leo it's "das Pfefferminz." :P
19:25 cait das Pfefferminz is a candy
19:25 cait it#s die Pfefferminze
19:24 cait actually when talking about the plant
19:24 cait hm
19:24 jcamins It's "das Pfefferminz," so I think I get bonus points for a reasonable guess.
19:24 datadoctor Thanks for the memcached suggestion rangi!
19:24 cait I am still in france
19:24 cait hm no it does not help
19:24 jcamins der Pfefferminzschnaps, then.
19:23 cait der
19:23 oleonard But... The Ballmer Peak! http://xkcd.com/323/
19:23 jcamins What if I called the other... das Pfefferminzschnaps?
19:22 cait you know... alcohol is no solution!
19:22 cait if you talk like that... I am not sure if we should give it to you
19:21 oleonard Okay I take it back, I'm ready for the liquor.
19:20 cait well it sounds better :)
19:20 jcamins cait: just because its name is French?
19:19 cait oleonard: right... cookies are better than schnapps
19:19 cait jcamins: I am for the french version
19:19 jcamins oleonard: sounded to me like you needed the liquor.
19:19 oleonard The cookies, not the liquor, cait! :)
19:19 jcamins Peppermint schnapps and creme de menthe.
19:18 jcamins There are at least two kinds of mint liquor.
19:18 * cait hands oleonard the mint chocolate liquor bottle
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9887 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use DataTables on circulation page
19:18 * oleonard will need some to get over Bug 9887
19:18 cait in cookies it sounds good :)
19:17 oleonard That sounds delicious
19:17 jcamins I need to get some to make mint chocolate chip cookies.
19:16 jcamins Does anyone have opinions on mint liquor?
19:15 tcohen yes
19:15 tcohen hehe
19:14 rangi ok, time to go
19:14 rangi hehe
19:14 jcamins So everyone in NZ is going to have to spend an entire day eagerly awaiting 3.12.
19:14 tcohen of course
19:14 rangi (except if we have to do a security one and then its asap)
19:13 rangi every month
19:13 rangi release ont he 22nd
19:13 rangi 15th
19:13 rangi string freeze on the 15h
19:13 rangi its easy to remember
19:13 tcohen :-P
19:13 * jcamins does it EST.
19:13 rangi when you take over you can do it argentinian time :)
19:13 rangi i do it nz time
19:13 rangi 22nd
19:12 jcamins Today/tomorrow.
19:12 tcohen rangi, release dates?
19:11 rangi bbl
19:11 rangi ok school run, then drs
19:10 rangi datadoctor: i find the memcached for sessions works much better than using mysql
19:09 rangi :)
19:09 rangi ahh yeah it will do that
19:08 datadoctor I was having some patron authentication failures after updating Koha, looked at my sessions table, and it was gigantic. Turns out my robots.txt file didn't get transferred over, and Google was filling my sessions table!
19:03 * rangi pings druthb
19:03 jcamins Yes you do.
19:03 rangi i need to do releases today
19:02 cait and we still got some time to iron out bugs
19:02 rangi its 22nd
19:02 rangi oh wow
19:02 cait but I am not too worried
19:02 cait there is always a lot to do
19:02 rangi 3.12 should be a good release
19:02 rangi master is feeling really solid
19:02 rangi cool
19:02 cait I think it shoudl be close too by now, already saw a lot of testing
19:01 cait one of the nice librarians is testing and Joubu said he will take a look at her finding tomorrow morning... i still hope :)
19:01 rangi hopefully that works
19:01 rangi ah yeah
19:01 cait creating orders for serials without having to create items
19:01 cait linking acq and serials
19:01 cait there is especially one I would really like to see
19:00 rangi that happens
19:00 rangi *nod*
19:00 cait some have been in the loop going back and forth
19:00 cait i hope some more tomorrow
19:00 rangi M. de Rooy - 12
19:00 rangi thats a lot of passed qa
19:00 jcamins *didn't
19:00 jcamins I ddin't look.
19:00 rangi Paul Poulain - 20
19:00 rangi Jonathan Druart - 36
19:00 jcamins What was it at the end of the day yesterday?
19:00 rangi Katrin Fischer - 48
19:00 rangi i mean
18:59 rangi at leats that hasnt gone up
18:59 cait but lost hte fight against the qa queue
18:59 jcamins That's awesome!
18:59 cait and we fought hard
18:59 rangi they halved it in 2 days
18:59 cait it was even at 6x in between
18:59 rangi yup
18:59 jcamins Nice!
18:59 jcamins Wow!
18:59 rangi :)
18:59 rangi it was down to 73
18:58 jcamins It's down to 80!
18:58 rangi ahh mostly out of patch doesnt apply queue
18:58 rangi hmm needs signoff went back up today
18:46 jcamins I mean, no, we all have UseTablesortForCirc turned on!
18:46 oleonard You're not encouraging me jcamins!
18:44 jcamins Probably.
18:44 oleonard Everyone has ' UseTablesortForCirc ' turned off anyway though right? :P
18:42 rangi it will sort fine
18:42 rangi nope
18:41 oleonard Do I care?
18:41 rangi no its a datetime object
18:40 oleonard "2009-06-22T23:59:00" is not straight-from-the-db formatted
18:40 oleonard I'm simply confused about the "unformatted" dates I'm getting back when I remove output_pref()
18:40 rangi to sort on
18:40 rangi id use the date straight from the db then
18:39 rangi cool!
18:39 jcamins Yay!
18:39 oleonard That's what I'm trying to do.
18:39 rangi anything else is just a mess
18:39 rangi and always sort on iso
18:39 rangi yep, make everything be a pair, iso and then whatever you display
18:39 jcamins *your
18:39 jcamins oleonard: I maintain that you best option is going to be a custom sort on data-date-iso
18:38 jcamins Much too late.
18:38 jcamins Probably a Koha::Dates that takes as an argument to the constructor either a string, string with incoming format, or datetime, and then we could have an output routine, similar to C4::Dates.
18:38 rangi too late in the cycle
18:38 * oleonard weeps, "All I want to do is sort dates correctly!"
18:38 rangi now would make 3.12 a nightmare
18:38 rangi but not now
18:38 rangi but yeah it needs a cleanup
18:37 rangi :)
18:37 rangi then that would fix that
18:37 rangi so if we made output, call output_pref
18:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9084 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Dates in notices should be formatted according to dateformat system preference
18:37 cait bug 9084
18:36 jcamins Agreed.
18:36 oleonard On one line we have $it->{'displaydate'} = output_pref($it->{'issuedate'});, on another we have $it->{'checkoutdate'} = C4::Dates->new($it->{'issuedate'},'iso')->output('syspref');
18:36 bgkriegel hi, is bugs.k-c site working for you?
18:36 jcamins Yeah.
18:36 cait let me find it
18:36 cait I mean I tested something today that was for making the dates on th enotices tab sort correctly I think
18:36 rangi is so much nicer than
18:36 rangi return $date->output("syspref");
18:36 rangi my $date = C4::Dates->new( $text, 'iso' );
18:36 rangi what i mean is
18:36 cait oh scroling down...
18:35 cait oleonard: hm I tested a patch today that failed qa that was going in this direction I think
18:35 rangi at the moment its just a bunch of helper routines
18:35 rangi once DateUtils was objectified
18:35 jcamins that always works when Jean Luc Picard says it.
18:35 jcamins ...
18:35 wahanui hmmm... directly is easier...
18:35 rangi directly
18:35 * jcamins looks around commandingly and says "Make it so."
18:35 rangi but the plugin could call dateutils
18:34 rangi jcamins: that would be the easiest transition yep
18:34 rangi but seems better now
18:34 rangi and had a lot of issues early on
18:34 jcamins So C4::Dates should be made into a wrapper around Koha::DateUtils?
18:34 cait back
18:34 rangi DateUtils is all post hourly loans
18:34 jcamins Yeah.
18:34 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Koha/Template/Plugin/KohaDates.pm;h=00656fa5907146f6a8e85d5285bf4d8c11090349;hb=HEAD
18:33 rangi cos DateUtils didn't exist when it was written
18:33 rangi from C4::Dates
18:33 rangi im 99% sure the KohaDates plugin use output
18:32 oleonard I wonder if it matters for my purposes that the (mostly) unformatted date is being output as "2009-06-22T23:59:00" instead of "2009-06-22 23:59:00"...
18:31 jcamins Okay, in that case format_date must be cleansed from the codebase with fire and output_pref used instead.
18:30 rangi ish
18:30 rangi that was a long long time ago, Koha:DateUtils is better
18:29 jcamins I think rangi wrote C4::Dates, which makes me automatically prefer it.
18:28 jcamins Only if it is superior.
18:28 oleonard (over C4::DAtes)
18:28 oleonard Isn't DateUtils preferred because it's in the Koha:: namespace?
18:27 jcamins But for 3.14.
18:27 jcamins Or, if we must, format_date should be eliminated.
18:26 jcamins So probably output_pref should be eliminated and format_date should be extended to optionally handle time as well.
18:25 oleonard I don't think there's any existing instance in the templates where the KohaDates filter is used to format a datetime
18:22 jcamins I was looking for regressions.
18:22 jcamins However, I didn't test that.
18:21 jcamins Yes.
18:21 oleonard Worked properly to format dates according to the dateformat system preference and times according to the timeformat system preference?
18:20 jcamins Probably not. I had the impression that it already worked properly.
18:20 oleonard I see that KohaDates.pm hasn't changed though.
18:20 oleonard jcamins: I was wondering whether the new TimeFormat system pref also updated the KohaDates template plugin to properly format times as well
18:19 jcamins oleonard: if you mean "will format_date respect the TimeFormat syspref?" the answer is no.
18:18 jcamins I think I missed some part of this conversation.
18:18 cait oleonard: I think yes - maybe try it
18:17 jcamins What are we talking about?
18:17 cait ok brb
18:17 cait oleonard: hm not sure - I mean bugs always can be master maybe?
18:17 oleonard So that wasn't part of the new time format pref jcamins?
18:17 tcohen alright
18:17 jcamins It's definitely a bug.
18:17 jcamins tcohen: I would accept the Javascript for 3.12.
18:17 jcamins I don't know.
18:16 oleonard Does the KohaDates filter work now with date + time?
18:16 jcamins (and then eliminated)
18:16 jcamins But I think probably C4::Dates should be updated to handle time and output_pref made into a wrapper.
18:16 jcamins output_pref also handles time.
18:15 oleonard Dates.pm
18:15 jcamins Where is format_date defined?
18:15 jcamins I do not know.
18:14 oleonard How is output_pref different from format_date? $it->{'dd'} = output_pref($it->{'date_due'});
18:13 oleonard ...unless we knew of an existing bug which couldn't be fixed in time for 3.12?
18:11 cait and I miht not make much sense, I apologize for htat
18:11 cait I mean the ones we are seatting to 3.14 now
18:11 cait bugs means new features/enhancements?
18:05 * jcamins is all for that!
18:04 gmcharlt preferably as soon as I'm elected, so that we can keep master flowing
18:04 jcamins Assuming you're elected, did you have any thoughts about when you'd like to branch?
18:03 gmcharlt ;)
18:03 gmcharlt not from my point of view! *cough*, *cough*
18:02 jcamins Success!
18:02 jcamins Yay!
18:02 gmcharlt why is my office suddenly full of black smoke?
18:01 jcamins I don't think that worked.
18:01 * jcamins tries electing gmcharlt the way the pope was elected in the Dan Brown novel... cheers and shouts "Galen Charlton" in unison with everyone else in the room.
18:00 gmcharlt although, of course, branching 3.12 is a separate issue from who is currently pushing patches to master
18:00 gmcharlt that would certainly be a courtesy to the community
18:00 jcamins gmcharlt: I guess you have to be elected before we can branch 3.12 and I can hand over the keys to the master branch to you?
17:59 gmcharlt ah, right - jcamins is right, if master is being used for 3.12 bugs
17:59 * gmcharlt reflects
17:59 jcamins Once 3.12 is branched they'll be set back to master.
17:59 * gmcharlt would have said master :)
17:58 jcamins 3.14.
17:58 tcohen gmcharlt: bugs for 3.14, should be tagged 3.14 or master?
17:49 slef bbl
17:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout
17:49 slef Changes submitted for bug 7494
17:46 jcamins And then you stick the dates in @data-iso-date
17:45 jcamins oleonard: http://www.datatables.net/plug-ins/sorting
17:45 tcohen we will have this for 3.14, for sure http://snag.gy/rYVJC.jpg
17:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Material type icons not showing for XSLT default view in intranet
17:44 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9403: Increment version number
17:44 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: bug 9403 tiny follow-up to validate podchecker
17:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9403: Follow-up: Move "Type" in XSLT result list to match OPAC result list
17:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
17:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9403: Material type icons not showing for XSLT default view in intranet
17:44 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 7241: Increment version number
17:44 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 7241, follow-up: viewlog link for circulation
17:44 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 7241 follow-up: DB changes
17:44 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 7241: circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
17:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1094: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1094/
17:39 jcamins I don't remember what it's called, but Datatables can sort on data that's been attached to its cells in a non-CDATA sort of way.
17:38 oleonard Sort on hidden data?
17:38 jcamins oleonard: use the added-data sort feature.
17:38 oleonard No problem.
17:38 oleonard Oh yeah, make that "A date sort function that works with three different date formats, each with or without times in two different formats"
17:36 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , updatedatabase improvements
17:36 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9043 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Adding system preferences to control the visibility of the content on the Advanced Search page
17:36 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5958 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Availability Limit with icu
17:36 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2384 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add location group as search limit in OPAC
17:36 slef @query availability limits
17:36 jcamins Good plan.
17:35 slef ok, I'll leave it undone in the new feature
17:35 jcamins Availability limits are fundamentally broken.
17:35 jcamins In fact, I'm sure it doesn't.
17:35 jcamins slef: it probably doesn't work in the staff client either.
17:35 jcamins tcohen: yes, "that's a good project for 3.14." :P
17:34 tcohen you said that?
17:34 slef jcamins: in the staff interface?
17:34 jcamins tcohen: yeah, that's why I said it should wait for 3.14.
17:34 jcamins Never has.
17:34 jcamins slef: availability search in the OPAC does not work.
17:31 tcohen do we have a dependency tree for C4 and Koha modules?
17:26 slef surely this search "kw:phone and ( ( allrecords,AlwaysMatches:'' not onloan,AlwaysMatches:'') and (lost,st-numeric:0) )" should return a book if any copies are not onloan
17:25 slef argh but if that's the case, how can the availability search in OPAC work?
17:23 slef oleonard: aha, the problem was that a book matches the onloan index if any copies are issued :-/
17:14 gaetan_B bye !
17:08 tcohen jcamins, de-serializing the hidden field from marc_subfield_structure into separate values is a really big rewrite.
17:08 slef Junking all copies after 3 years rather undermined my "you need to know which one is needs repair at next check-in"
17:08 oleonard I could probably think of lots of reasons but that doesn't mean they would care :)
17:07 slef If you've a good argument why they should care, let me know, but I couldn't think of one.
17:07 slef Believe it or not, some libraries only care that they've got N copies and don't much care exactly which one is where or how much a particular copy is circulated because they will junk all copies after 3 years.
17:06 oleonard That hurts my brain's librarian centers.
17:06 slef multiple truly-identical copies
17:06 slef if it's not checked in, you probably aren't issuing it
17:06 oleonard Doesn't really matter? How would that work?
17:05 slef but the availability is a good addition
17:05 slef either it doesn't really matter or you should barcode them
17:04 oleonard For catalogs with multiple copies I don't know how you'd know which you were dealing with.
17:03 slef yep
17:03 oleonard I'm also not quite sure what the use case is here. For items without a barcode?
17:03 slef (the above is what the OPAC does)
17:02 slef I can try putting ( ( allrecords,AlwaysMatches='' not onloan,AlwaysMatches='') and (lost,st-numeric=0) ) on the search, but I think that caused some problem
17:01 slef oh it's not documented - if it was, I'd know if I'd done it before.
17:01 oleonard I don't know the history of the bug
17:00 slef I feel like I may have done this before and not found a neat solution without repeating lots of search.pl
17:00 oleonard I'm not surprised to hear it. I don't have any ideas for you without digging into search code myself.
17:00 slef I'm digging into the search code and it seems non-trivial to do
17:00 slef specifically the availability search
16:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout
16:59 slef oleonard: did you have any thoughts on bug 7494?
16:58 * oleonard waves his magic wand and makes everyone use ISO date format
16:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9887 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use DataTables on circulation page
16:58 oleonard Okay, so Bug 9887 is going to have to wait until we can find a date sorting algorithm that works with all date types *and* with datetimes. :(
16:38 bag busy with another patch at the moment
16:38 bag jcamins: I will remind khall in a few
16:35 jcamins khall: also, could you take a look at the output on jenkins and see if you have any idea what the errors it is getting could be caused by?
16:34 jcamins bag: not yet.
16:34 jcamins Oh, one last thing.
16:34 reiveune bye
16:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #1094 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 11 hr ago)
16:33 bag YAY more YUI bits the dust
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add time due to slips
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Adding some parameters to export_borrowers.pl
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add POD and comments for Check_Userid and Generate_Userid subs
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9764 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on the authority search popup with Bootstrap
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9769 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket page with Bootstrap
16:33 bag jcamins: is there a bug number now?
16:33 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9014: Increment version number
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9771 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket groups page with Bootstrap
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9438 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Biblio notes displayed when ordering
16:33 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9014 - Add time due to slips
16:33 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9045 - Adding some parameters to export_borrowers.pl
16:33 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9045 : Adding --where parameter to filter what kind of borrowers to export and --separator to choose a specific caracter for patron export
16:33 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 9718 - Add POD and comments for Check_Userid and Generate_Userid subs
16:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9764 - Replace YUI buttons on authority search popup with Bootstrap
16:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9769 [Revised] Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket page with Bootstrap
16:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9771 [Revised] Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket groups page with Bootstrap
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9884 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Plugin permissions not added to translations
16:33 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Follow-up Bug 9438 - Biblio notes displayed when ordering
16:33 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9438: biblio notes displayed when adding order
16:33 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9884 - Plugin permissions not added to translations
16:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1093: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1093/
16:33 bag oh wait
16:32 bag jcamins I did yesterday
16:32 * jcamins leaves
16:32 jcamins Also, bag, if you could test rangi's patch on a new install, I'd appreciate that as well.
16:32 jcamins khall: I'd really like the plugins to be working for the beta, so if you could fix 9890 and 9883 (or at least give it a try) I would be very grateful.
16:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9890 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fix the new plugin system for package installs
16:30 jcamins bug 9890
16:30 magnuse have fun, #koha!
16:30 * magnuse calls it a day
16:30 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded.
16:30 magnuse @later tell eythian: if you should happen to feel like fixing bug 9890 i'll sign off in ~15 hours :-)
16:25 oleonard Shoot, I'm gonna have to actually look at the DataTables date sorting code aren't I? :P
16:19 frido_s see you
16:17 tcohen paul_p: good you asked, hope i was clear
16:15 cait I don't know actually
16:15 cait oleonard: hm I
16:14 cait khall: ok :)
16:14 oleonard Is DataTable date sorting always broken for date+time?
16:14 khall cait: if we can get it in with the global number, we can then look at making it circ rules based.
16:13 * oleonard would like to have multiple holds per title be configurable by item type, collection code, and patron category
16:13 maximep every time someone adds proper pk to the db, a kitty is resurrected :p
16:13 khall np
16:12 maximep khall: thanks!
16:12 cait but that's me :)
16:12 cait i think it would be nice to have it in circulation rules actually :)
16:12 huginn 04Bug 9394: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , Use reserve_id where possible
16:12 khall depends on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9394
16:11 jcamins Okay, time to head into the city.
16:11 huginn 04Bug 7710: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , multiple holds per title
16:11 khall maximep: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710
16:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9403' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9e4c68d277737c06dc8b73f951d69b1665c5c2a> / Bug 9403: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f7189678d47bb0fc0298ca8191b30f280e5beda> / bug 9403 tiny follow-up to validate podchecker <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e636bed7287163a1dfeb9
16:07 khall yo
16:07 maximep oh cool! will look for them
16:06 cait khall: around?
16:06 cait i think we got reports and patches for that in bugzilla
16:06 cait maximep: one reserve on biblio at the same time?
16:03 * jcamins tries again.
16:02 jcamins Definitely not working for me.
16:01 oleonard Slow, but works for me.
16:00 maximep looks like it :/
16:00 maximep ok. So I could add a syspref for it. That would be a start
16:00 jcamins Bugzilla is down?
15:59 jcamins That's standard for public libraries.
15:59 maximep any idea of why this "feature" of 1 hold per borrower was done ? of course I will read all the code
15:57 maximep yeah... first estimated it to something like 80 hours... now I have to explain why haha
15:57 jcamins A lot!
15:57 maximep yes
15:57 maximep would be way easier if I could just do all the reservations without having to change anything
15:57 jcamins The development time?
15:56 maximep trying to estimate the time it would take to have recurring reservations. Something like every week on friday from 10 to 12
15:56 jcamins I don't necessarily agree with the feature, but it is a feature.
15:56 wahanui i heard feature was only for 856u (under xslt) and any links in the biblio or item in normal view.. ill do the xslt for normac and unimarc too when i figure it out
15:56 jcamins maximep: feature.
15:56 maximep is it a feature, a bug or a missing feature that a user can't do more than 1 reservation on an item ?
15:55 tcohen besides that, it would work
15:55 tcohen i think its... sort of correct, but ugly
15:55 tcohen cait, that's the javascript calculatio of the value that is documented http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks
15:55 oleonard If it improves the usability of that process I don't care how verbose it is.
15:55 datadoctor You rock!
15:55 datadoctor Go squashers!
15:53 cait tcohen: I am confused :)
15:53 cait bag: ;) :)
15:52 jcamins I think you are right.
15:52 jcamins Yeah...
15:52 jcamins o.O
15:51 tcohen what do u think jcamins oleonard cait
15:50 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.199 pasted "After seeing this, I begin to think a bigger rewrite/DB columns patch would be better" (44 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/441
15:47 bag just saying busy day
15:47 bag of course not :)
15:47 cait bag: do we look like we did nothing the past 3? :)
15:47 jcamins bag: one day for QA.
15:44 bag busy two days ahead for QA's and RM :D
15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Passed QA , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number
15:42 jcamins Yay! Bug 7241 works!
15:40 jcamins Is there a good reason that the modules in the log tool are in no order whatsoever?
15:37 tcohen thanks
15:37 jcamins $("#hidden_collapsed_" + tab)
15:37 tcohen (using variables for selection)
15:37 tcohen jcamins, is this valid in jquery? $("#hidden_collapsed_".tab)
15:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9014' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1f4866312e445117df96b74bce9093fd0b25fa0> / Bug 9014: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7643737d569859d81b9734da1e26d438d3fab69> / Bug 9014 - Add time due to slips <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b900f5f056416c6fd1875e4bf95cb0a3c3e
15:26 datadoctor However some patrons are still reporting issues. Any idea why some could authenticate and not others?
15:25 datadoctor Hi All! Since our update to 3.10, we have a small number of patrons who have problems logging in. We originally identified a problem with the time period for sessions and changed the cronjob to a shorter time limit.
15:25 oleonard Oi!
15:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Make staff client list contents view more like search results
15:25 jcamins Looks like someone attached the wrong patch to bug 9757?
15:24 matthewboh Has anyone used an old Android or iPhone for a scanner!
15:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #1093 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 10 hr ago)
15:22 jcamins That'll be for 3.14.
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha::DateUtils::output_pref should not use $dateonly parameter
15:22 jcamins Bug 9893 filed.
15:20 bag thanks cait - found him in a PM :)
15:20 cait bag: rambutan was looking for you :)
15:19 paul_p jcamins thx a lot !
15:19 jcamins Done.
15:19 jcamins paul_p: sure.
15:19 bag the more yui I see disappear - surprisingly is making me more happy :)
15:19 paul_p jcamins = it seems you're pushing. Could you please push to git.koha-community often (someone is waiting for a "patch pushed" to test another one)
15:16 jcamins This will hugely simplify vast swathes of Javascript!
15:16 oleonard Yeah, I just learned about it recently. Apparently it's a lot faster in a lot of cases
15:16 jcamins oleonard: whoah! I never heard of closest!
15:15 oleonard jcamins: FYI: http://jsperf.com/jquery-parents-vs-closest/24
15:15 rambutan so where is this?
15:14 cait we are at the same table! :D
15:14 cait talking to paul_p
15:14 cait bag is here rambutan
15:14 huginn rambutan: bag was last seen in #koha 40 minutes and 46 seconds ago: <bag> paul_p++ for cheese :)
15:14 rambutan @seen bag
15:14 tcohen heh
15:13 jcamins Can you tell I've been doing this a lot? :)
15:13 jcamins $().click(function () { alert($(this).parents('.tabclass').attr('id')); });
15:13 jcamins tcohen: no need.
15:12 tcohen so it looks like i'd better hardcode the onClick stuff on each from the template, with the tab name as parameter
15:12 tcohen oleonard, i have a problem with attaching the function using jQuery, the problem is that I need to know the tab that checkbox is
15:10 jcamins :)
15:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add time due to slips
15:10 jcamins bug 9014
15:09 magnuse what is it?
15:09 magnuse woohoo!
15:08 * jcamins pushes 9014.
15:08 khall I'd be willing to give it a go
15:08 jcamins Thanks.
15:08 jcamins Yeah, I was thinking that.
15:08 jcamins Reading the POD I wasn't sure if I was missing a third dimension or not.
15:08 khall perhaps an enhancement bug should be filed to remove $date_only from the code
15:07 khall I see what you mean though
15:07 jcamins That makes sense to me.
15:07 jcamins Okay.
15:07 jcamins I feel like your $force_time parameter solves (or can solve) the same problem as $dateonly, but more elegantly.
15:07 khall basically because it would have required modifying more existing code, which I tend to avoid when possible. It would have made for a larger patch
15:05 jcamins $dateonly is orthogonal to the date format, but why aren't we just specifying "none" in the time format?
15:05 khall $force_time can force a hour/minute format
15:05 jcamins I'm going to push the patch regardless, but I'm trying to understand why we have $force_time *and* $dateonly.
15:04 jcamins Sorry, should have specified where I was looking.
15:04 khall nm, I see it
15:04 jcamins You changed the function signature for output_pref.
15:04 jcamins Yeah.
15:03 khall I didn't modify the pod at all, did I?
15:03 khall I'm not sure what you are asking about jcamins
15:03 jcamins I know you didn't add that, but with the addition of a time format I'm a little unsure why it still exists.
15:03 oleonard Ugh, the DataTables API docs are so incomplete
15:03 jcamins In particular, $dateonly.
15:02 jcamins It looks good, but I'm not sure I understand the updated POD.
15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add time due to slips
15:01 jcamins khall: I'm looking at bug 9014.
15:01 khall jcamins: here
15:01 cait jcamins: quick only has today's stuff, slip is complete patron account
15:00 jcamins khall: around?
15:00 jcamins Thanks.
15:00 jcamins Ah.
15:00 tcohen qslip is only checkouts
14:59 jcamins What is the difference between a slip and a quick slip?
14:59 cait 3.12 gonna rock :)
14:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Reports hierarchies management improvements
14:59 cait woohoo :) and bug 9117
14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4354 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cannot edit existing issuing rules
14:57 cait bug 4354
14:56 cait Joubu++
14:56 jcamins julian_m++
14:56 oleonard tcohen: jcamins answered
14:56 oleonard Okay, so DataTables has a sort event, but it fires even if you don't have a default sort. Grumble.
14:53 jcamins tcohen: $(...).click(function () {...});
14:52 tcohen what is the event for checkboxes oleonard? $("input[name^='hidden_']").?
14:46 tcohen exactly
14:46 cait ah, but probably needs more of a rewrite
14:45 cait tcohen: maybe you could calculate on saving in the perl file even?
14:42 oleonard With jQuery you would attach a click function and inside the function check whether the checkbox was checked or not
14:40 tcohen oleonard: how do I hook a checkbox to trigger some js function on value change?
14:40 oleonard Hm, maybe that info was on an earlier version?
14:39 oleonard DataTables doesn't fire off an event on sort? Grumble.
14:38 magnuse yeah, lunch was awesome!
14:37 tcohen heh
14:34 paul_p tcohen including camembert & roquefort & many odor-full cheese. the room smell strange today ;-)
14:33 * oleonard sheds a tear for missing the cheese lunch
14:33 paul_p tcohen there was no brie (but more than 40 different cheeses)
14:33 tcohen yes paul_p
14:33 oleonard tcohen: I would consider it an improvement to move the checkbox-handling into the template, although I don't know the details of this particular case.
14:33 bag paul_p++ for cheese :)
14:33 bag YAY cheese lunch was awesome!
14:33 paul_p tcohen bric ? (or do you mean "brie" ?)
14:32 tcohen Bric paul_p?
14:32 oleonard paul_p: I will be there!
14:32 paul_p oleonard = today it was "cheese lunch". If you plan to come to KohaCon13, I promize i'll get some cheese for you with me ;-)
14:32 oleonard We already have a bug to get rid of CGI-scrolling-list, so I would think checkboxes are the same kind of thing
14:31 tcohen_pissed i thought it could be some coding guideline
14:31 tcohen_pissed i'm fine with it, but found that everything is done in the .pl for marc_subfield_structure.tt
14:30 oleonard tcohen_pissed: It's better to do form stuff in the template if you can.
14:30 oleonard tcohen_pissed: Are you still pissed? :)
14:30 tcohen_pissed oleonard: should we stick with using CGI::checkbox from the .pl or can we arrange things on the template to add some checkboxes?
14:24 jcamins I should update 9883, clarify that I want a follow-up.
14:24 cait oleonard: oh good - I wondered what it could have been
14:22 oleonard By the way cait I don't know what the problem was with the offline circ addon but when I switched it to a different user it worked (no more 'authentication failed')
14:21 cait jcamins: about 9883 - I found it fixes the roblem for me after installing the missing module from koha-community.org
14:20 oleonard jcamins: for a while libsysguy wasn't hot or partying anymore
14:18 jcamins libsysguy: huh?
14:15 libsysguy hey wahanui fixed my name
14:13 libsysguy heya cait
14:12 oleonard France++
14:11 cait we are in France!
14:11 wahanui rumour has it libsysguy is koha's hottest developer or partying with Swedes on his deck
14:11 cait heya libsysguy
14:11 cait yep :)
14:10 oleonard clrh in the background, and magnuse next to cait?
14:10 cait it looks like I was failing a patch at that moment
14:10 jcamins I see.
14:10 dpavlin evil gnomes working on Koha :-)
14:10 jcamins Wait...
14:09 * cait hides
14:09 oleonard That's dpavlin and cait
14:08 tcohen_pissed oleonard: who are people from first picture?
14:03 marcelr cait: that is fine
14:01 cait hi maximep
13:57 cait I stole the bug from your qa queue
13:57 jcamins Agreed.
13:57 cait marcelr: i am going to take another look at the issuingrules editing? that ok for you?
13:57 tcohen_pissed s/staff/opac/
13:57 cait staff intranet editor collapsed
13:57 cait well I think 4 checkboxes would be nice
13:56 cait so it#s simpler, I see
13:56 cait oh
13:56 tcohen_pissed cait: it just presents "Show all" and "Hide all" option
13:56 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
13:56 jcamins Interesting.
13:55 cait you are welcome :)
13:54 tcohen_pissed thanks for the pointer cait
13:54 cait tcohen_pissed: thought it was in master
13:54 tcohen_pissed cait, you mean in master or a while ago?
13:54 oleonard https://depot.biblibre.com/gboisson/hackfest2013/
13:54 cait heh
13:54 jcamins Where are the pictures?
13:54 oleonard cait: Yes! Judging by the pictures you two are the only ones working ;)
13:53 cait oleonard: did you find me and dpavlin? :)
13:53 cait tcohen_pissed: not sure, but I think there was something there
13:53 jcamins The only hidden value that I can get to work consistently is 0.
13:53 cait tcohen_pissed: maybe take a look at the authorities frameworks too
13:52 jcamins At least, to the best of my knowledge.
13:52 magnuse ah, sorry, i see it now
13:52 jcamins magnuse: exactly. No one has any idea what "flag" means in this context.
13:52 oleonard I hope someone will post one of those group shots on Flickr with everyone's names. I see a few faces I don't recognize
13:51 tcohen_pissed that's what the docs say magnuse
13:51 magnuse jcamins: flag?
13:51 magnuse tcohen_pissed: sounds like a great idea!
13:50 tcohen i'm done with going through the docs to find what to put there
13:50 jcamins magnuse: "flag"
13:50 tcohen i think i'll provide a patch that puts checkboxes there, and a js function to calculate the value
13:50 magnuse it's in the online help, i think?
13:49 jcamins (I'm pretty sure)
13:49 wahanui it has been said that nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though
13:49 jcamins tcohen: nothing.
13:49 tcohen (context: frameworks)
13:48 tcohen what does the '-8' (a.k.a. 'Flag') value means for the 'hidden' value of a subfield?
13:48 marcelr :)
13:48 magnuse marcelr: the week is not over yet... ;-)
13:45 marcelr shame that i had so little time this week
13:45 wahanui 3.12 is, like, due to be released on May 22, 2013. Master entered a feature slush on March 15, 2013, and will enter a feature freeze on March 22, 2013 and a string freeze on May 1
13:45 tcohen 3.12?
13:45 cait trying hard to get this queue down - but with a horde of librarians being so busy here it's just not working
13:45 cait thx :)
13:45 marcelr cait++ for qa :)
13:44 cait hi marcelr :)
13:44 marcelr biblibre_hackfest++ for all those bugs moving around
13:42 cait jcamins: magnuse tested it successfully
13:42 cait jcamins: ah cool - I will check if I can get it from koha repo
13:42 gaetan_B the group pictures of the hackfest we just took are here : https://depot.biblibre.com/gboisson/hackfest2013/
13:42 jcamins I don't think that the patch will work from a functional point of view.
13:42 cait koha_community++
13:42 cait seems he is testing from italy now :)
13:41 jcamins And if the dependency is the only problem, I'm leaving it in.
13:41 bag yeah I saw
13:41 cait bag: i think zeno commented on the bug earlier :)
13:41 jcamins cait: I think eythian packaged it.
13:41 cait I think i will have to add a cpan dependency to make it work
13:41 bag well I see files being uploaded to the test FTP server for edifact - so some people are uploading files :)
13:41 * cait hides from khall
13:41 cait i am not sure if it works
13:40 jcamins cait: if the patch works, I have no objection to it.
13:40 tcohen hi cait
13:40 cait and hi tcohen btw :)
13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9883 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Koha::Plugins::Base should not require koha-conf to load
13:37 tcohen bug 9883
13:37 cait jcamins: can you take a look at 9883 maybe? not sure how to proceed there
13:36 tcohen now
13:36 tcohen i think its really easy to do right
13:36 tcohen the main problem would be having bash-completion as dependency
13:35 magnuse probably easier to do if the scripts were perl, not bash?
13:35 magnuse me too :-)
13:34 tcohen i've thought of it magnuse
13:31 * magnuse wonders how hard it would be to add autocomplete on the instance names to the koha-* scripts provided by the packages
13:27 cait hi oleonard :)
13:27 cait I did what?
13:26 wahanui cait abducted me.
13:26 oleonard welcome back!
13:26 cait we are back :)
13:18 magnuse jcamins: cool, thanks
12:58 Viktor morning tcohen
12:56 tcohen morning
12:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Make staff client list contents view more like search results
12:38 * oleonard will have to appeal for help diagnosing the UNIMARC issue with Bug 9757
12:22 oleonard Hi #koha
11:42 jcamins magnuse: please close and resolve.
11:22 jajm dpavlin: http://nopaste.info/10329926be.html
11:17 drojf of course. nobody is unfailing them before they know about it :)
11:16 magnuse lots of failed qa, but i still call that progress
11:16 magnuse yup!
11:15 drojf oh, needs signoff down to 67 :)
11:13 drojf cheese… that is the moment where i am not sad i could not come :D
11:13 magnuse the hacking is good - lots of bugs moving along
11:12 magnuse the smell of cheese is starting to spread around the biblibre office...
11:12 drojf how's the hacking going?
11:12 drojf hei magnuse
11:12 magnuse moin drojf
11:09 drojf good day #koha
11:08 magnuse Herwig: you are welcome :-)
10:51 Herwig thx annyhow :)
10:51 Herwig found it !
10:48 Herwig Hey all question is it possible to change te appearance off the date in the opac ? ... as we use day/month/year normally in this country in koha its month/day/year ... i just had someone saying my book goes back in time ;)
10:00 another_peter thanks for your help with first ever koha bug and attempted patch, cait1 and magnuse and 3thian and r@ngi (I didn't want to alert those two so late at night).
09:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9883 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Koha::Plugins::Base should not require koha-conf to load
09:51 * magnuse grabs bug 9883
09:50 magnuse another_peter++
09:43 another_peter I have the code changes done. (Obviously they are rather trivial.)
09:42 another_peter magnuse: I suggested what I thought was a good compromise. The problem does get exponentially harder as the length increases. eythian seemed to approve my suggestions so that's good enough for me for now.
09:41 magnuse another_peter: if you are in doubt, you might as well make it really secure while you are at it, perhaps?
09:40 magnuse another_peter: hm, not my area of expertise...
09:35 another_peter (well, suitable)
09:34 another_peter magnuse: thanks for your comment. do you think that my suggested length for the mysql password is adequate?
09:30 cait1 so you will be able to ask him in person even :)
09:29 cait1 ah nice :)
09:29 another_peter cait1: thanks. catalyst are having a bit of a "learn to commit to koha" day on Monday (NZT) and so I am getting up to speed before I attend.
09:27 cait1 another_peter: i have added eythian to the cc list - as he is the creator of the koha-common scripts
09:25 huginn 04Bug 9885: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Passwords generated by command line scripts are weak
09:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9885 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Passwords generated by command line scripts are weak
09:25 another_peter cait1: thanks for your guidance, i have raised bug 9885 at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9885 and it will be interesting to see if anyone agrees with me.
09:16 magnuse maybe check with jcamins, just in case...
09:14 cait1 magnuse: I am not sure, I think we marked resolved fixed in the past,so it should probably not mess them up
09:12 magnuse should we close ( = mark as RESOLVED FIXED ) bugs when we see they are fixed in master, or will that mess up the release tools etc?
09:10 another_peter cait1: thanks, that's exactly what i was looking for, I cannot imagine how I failed to find it :(
09:10 cait1 but don't get scared away, filing a bug is always good - and it can be improved if there is inormation missing or anything
09:09 cait1 some more here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow
09:09 cait1 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines
09:08 cait1 I think
09:08 cait1 that would be a bug
09:08 cait1 nope
09:06 another_peter I presume a minor security improvement is not an enhancement.
09:06 another_peter Are there bug reporting standards somewhere? I have created myself a bugzilla account, was just looking on the wiki to see if I should include specific things apart from the [ENH] for enhancements.
08:49 magnuse s/hos/his/
08:49 * magnuse already had hos say on 8662
08:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Remove unused famfamfam icons
08:40 cait1 Can we get some opinions on bug 8662 please?
08:31 gaetan_B hello
08:27 * magnuse waves from marseille
08:21 clrh bonjour
08:17 matts hi !
08:06 wahanui privet, alex_a
08:06 alex_a bonjour
07:57 cait good morning/bonjour #koha
07:52 another_peter hi
07:47 reiveune hello
07:37 another_peter (i wasn't sure of the right way to suggest the relevant change to the wiki page, so I raised a work request for it, apologies if that was poor form)
07:27 another_peter thanks for interrupting your evening for my plebian problems :)
07:26 another_peter sorted. I needed to edit apache's ports.conf to tell it to listen on 8080, which is what the generated apache site config said (although not what the config file had specified).
07:16 rangi no worries, good luck
07:15 another_peter right, i think i understand the problem. thanks.
07:14 rangi yep, thats a sample (on the wiki)
07:14 rangi you will see what the 2 virtualhosts are
07:13 rangi if you look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/parkvale
07:13 another_peter there is a config on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze
07:13 another_peter right.
07:13 rangi it will be whtever you set it to in the config
07:13 rangi there are no default things
07:13 another_peter this is obviously not urgent, and I suspect you have more fulfilling things to do with your evening than help me :)
07:12 another_peter INTRAPORT and OPACPORT are the same in the default config on the wiki page
07:11 another_peter ok, tried that. i am still not getting this. so, there is one apache2 site defined. in my case called "parkvale". if I go to http://localhost, I get "It works.". Apache default. If I go to http://parkvale I get the OPAC. If I go to parkvale-intra, which I think is the default suffix based on the config file on the wiki, i go back to "It works."
07:09 rangi cool
07:09 another_peter roger. will try that.
07:08 rangi its whatever you set it to be when you set up your admin prefix or suffix when you create your config
07:07 another_peter or if it does, i have reading fail
07:07 another_peter ah, right. the wiki page above doesn't really tell one HOW to get to the maintenance page.
07:07 rangi so probably a dns/hosts thing
07:07 rangi you are seeing the opac
07:07 rangi you arent seeing the admin side
07:07 rangi if you are seeing the maintenance page
07:06 another_peter I was hoping it would ask me for the password that the wiki page told me how to extract using xmlstarlet
07:05 another_peter i've done that, after adding a hosts entry, but it just tells me that my instance is down for maintenance
07:05 another_peter and it says to go to the admin interface page
07:04 another_peter hi, i've installed koha-common as per http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze
06:36 cait hm
06:33 * dcook waves and runs off
06:24 * cait waves
05:35 rangi hmm
05:35 rangi dev environment?
02:46 eythian http://www.masswerk.at/google60/?home=1
02:33 jcamins eythian: thanks.
02:27 tcohen good night #koha
01:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
01:21 jenkins_koha Magnus Enger: Bug 9256 - Fix search for the packages
01:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #80: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/80/
00:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #80 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:31 eythian https://twitter.com/raganwald/status/314496725345767424
00:27 rangi cool
00:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Package updates to make master build
00:24 eythian jcamins: bug 9880 is ready for master
00:01 eythian jcamins: new master packages uploaded. going to make bug/patches for the changes I had to make to get it working.