Time Nick Message 00:01 eythian jcamins: new master packages uploaded. going to make bug/patches for the changes I had to make to get it working. 00:24 eythian jcamins: bug 9880 is ready for master 00:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Package updates to make master build 00:27 rangi cool 00:31 eythian https://twitter.com/raganwald/status/314496725345767424 00:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #80 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 01:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #80: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/80/ 01:21 jenkins_koha Magnus Enger: Bug 9256 - Fix search for the packages 01:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 02:27 tcohen good night #koha 02:33 jcamins eythian: thanks. 02:46 eythian http://www.masswerk.at/google60/?home=1 05:35 rangi dev environment? 05:35 rangi hmm 06:24 * cait waves 06:33 * dcook waves and runs off 06:36 cait hm 07:04 another_peter hi, i've installed koha-common as per http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze 07:05 another_peter and it says to go to the admin interface page 07:05 another_peter i've done that, after adding a hosts entry, but it just tells me that my instance is down for maintenance 07:06 another_peter I was hoping it would ask me for the password that the wiki page told me how to extract using xmlstarlet 07:07 rangi if you are seeing the maintenance page 07:07 rangi you arent seeing the admin side 07:07 rangi you are seeing the opac 07:07 rangi so probably a dns/hosts thing 07:07 another_peter ah, right. the wiki page above doesn't really tell one HOW to get to the maintenance page. 07:07 another_peter or if it does, i have reading fail 07:08 rangi its whatever you set it to be when you set up your admin prefix or suffix when you create your config 07:09 another_peter roger. will try that. 07:09 rangi cool 07:11 another_peter ok, tried that. i am still not getting this. so, there is one apache2 site defined. in my case called "parkvale". if I go to http://localhost, I get "It works.". Apache default. If I go to http://parkvale I get the OPAC. If I go to parkvale-intra, which I think is the default suffix based on the config file on the wiki, i go back to "It works." 07:12 another_peter INTRAPORT and OPACPORT are the same in the default config on the wiki page 07:13 another_peter this is obviously not urgent, and I suspect you have more fulfilling things to do with your evening than help me :) 07:13 rangi there are no default things 07:13 rangi it will be whtever you set it to in the config 07:13 another_peter right. 07:13 another_peter there is a config on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze 07:13 rangi if you look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/parkvale 07:14 rangi you will see what the 2 virtualhosts are 07:14 rangi yep, thats a sample (on the wiki) 07:15 another_peter right, i think i understand the problem. thanks. 07:16 rangi no worries, good luck 07:26 another_peter sorted. I needed to edit apache's ports.conf to tell it to listen on 8080, which is what the generated apache site config said (although not what the config file had specified). 07:27 another_peter thanks for interrupting your evening for my plebian problems :) 07:37 another_peter (i wasn't sure of the right way to suggest the relevant change to the wiki page, so I raised a work request for it, apologies if that was poor form) 07:47 reiveune hello 07:52 another_peter hi 07:57 cait good morning/bonjour #koha 08:06 alex_a bonjour 08:06 wahanui privet, alex_a 08:17 matts hi ! 08:21 clrh bonjour 08:27 * magnuse waves from marseille 08:31 gaetan_B hello 08:40 cait1 Can we get some opinions on bug 8662 please? 08:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8662 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Remove unused famfamfam icons 08:49 * magnuse already had hos say on 8662 08:49 magnuse s/hos/his/ 09:06 another_peter Are there bug reporting standards somewhere? I have created myself a bugzilla account, was just looking on the wiki to see if I should include specific things apart from the [ENH] for enhancements. 09:06 another_peter I presume a minor security improvement is not an enhancement. 09:08 cait1 nope 09:08 cait1 that would be a bug 09:08 cait1 I think 09:09 cait1 http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug_Reporting_Guidelines 09:09 cait1 some more here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bug-enhancement-patch_Workflow 09:10 cait1 but don't get scared away, filing a bug is always good - and it can be improved if there is inormation missing or anything 09:10 another_peter cait1: thanks, that's exactly what i was looking for, I cannot imagine how I failed to find it :( 09:12 magnuse should we close ( = mark as RESOLVED FIXED ) bugs when we see they are fixed in master, or will that mess up the release tools etc? 09:14 cait1 magnuse: I am not sure, I think we marked resolved fixed in the past,so it should probably not mess them up 09:16 magnuse maybe check with jcamins, just in case... 09:25 another_peter cait1: thanks for your guidance, i have raised bug 9885 at http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9885 and it will be interesting to see if anyone agrees with me. 09:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9885 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Passwords generated by command line scripts are weak 09:25 huginn 04Bug 9885: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Passwords generated by command line scripts are weak 09:27 cait1 another_peter: i have added eythian to the cc list - as he is the creator of the koha-common scripts 09:29 another_peter cait1: thanks. catalyst are having a bit of a "learn to commit to koha" day on Monday (NZT) and so I am getting up to speed before I attend. 09:29 cait1 ah nice :) 09:30 cait1 so you will be able to ask him in person even :) 09:34 another_peter magnuse: thanks for your comment. do you think that my suggested length for the mysql password is adequate? 09:35 another_peter (well, suitable) 09:40 magnuse another_peter: hm, not my area of expertise... 09:41 magnuse another_peter: if you are in doubt, you might as well make it really secure while you are at it, perhaps? 09:42 another_peter magnuse: I suggested what I thought was a good compromise. The problem does get exponentially harder as the length increases. eythian seemed to approve my suggestions so that's good enough for me for now. 09:43 another_peter I have the code changes done. (Obviously they are rather trivial.) 09:50 magnuse another_peter++ 09:51 * magnuse grabs bug 9883 09:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9883 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Koha::Plugins::Base should not require koha-conf to load 10:00 another_peter thanks for your help with first ever koha bug and attempted patch, cait1 and magnuse and 3thian and r@ngi (I didn't want to alert those two so late at night). 10:48 Herwig Hey all question is it possible to change te appearance off the date in the opac ? ... as we use day/month/year normally in this country in koha its month/day/year ... i just had someone saying my book goes back in time ;) 10:51 Herwig found it ! 10:51 Herwig thx annyhow :) 11:08 magnuse Herwig: you are welcome :-) 11:09 drojf good day #koha 11:12 magnuse moin drojf 11:12 drojf hei magnuse 11:12 drojf how's the hacking going? 11:12 magnuse the smell of cheese is starting to spread around the biblibre office... 11:13 magnuse the hacking is good - lots of bugs moving along 11:13 drojf cheese… that is the moment where i am not sad i could not come :D 11:15 drojf oh, needs signoff down to 67 :) 11:16 magnuse yup! 11:16 magnuse lots of failed qa, but i still call that progress 11:17 drojf of course. nobody is unfailing them before they know about it :) 11:22 jajm dpavlin: http://nopaste.info/10329926be.html 11:42 jcamins magnuse: please close and resolve. 12:22 oleonard Hi #koha 12:38 * oleonard will have to appeal for help diagnosing the UNIMARC issue with Bug 9757 12:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Make staff client list contents view more like search results 12:56 tcohen morning 12:58 Viktor morning tcohen 13:18 magnuse jcamins: cool, thanks 13:26 cait we are back :) 13:26 oleonard welcome back! 13:26 wahanui cait abducted me. 13:27 cait I did what? 13:27 cait hi oleonard :) 13:31 * magnuse wonders how hard it would be to add autocomplete on the instance names to the koha-* scripts provided by the packages 13:34 tcohen i've thought of it magnuse 13:35 magnuse me too :-) 13:35 magnuse probably easier to do if the scripts were perl, not bash? 13:36 tcohen the main problem would be having bash-completion as dependency 13:36 tcohen i think its really easy to do right 13:36 tcohen now 13:37 cait jcamins: can you take a look at 9883 maybe? not sure how to proceed there 13:37 tcohen bug 9883 13:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9883 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Koha::Plugins::Base should not require koha-conf to load 13:40 cait and hi tcohen btw :) 13:40 tcohen hi cait 13:40 jcamins cait: if the patch works, I have no objection to it. 13:41 cait i am not sure if it works 13:41 * cait hides from khall 13:41 bag well I see files being uploaded to the test FTP server for edifact - so some people are uploading files :) 13:41 cait I think i will have to add a cpan dependency to make it work 13:41 jcamins cait: I think eythian packaged it. 13:41 cait bag: i think zeno commented on the bug earlier :) 13:41 bag yeah I saw 13:41 jcamins And if the dependency is the only problem, I'm leaving it in. 13:42 cait seems he is testing from italy now :) 13:42 cait koha_community++ 13:42 jcamins I don't think that the patch will work from a functional point of view. 13:42 gaetan_B the group pictures of the hackfest we just took are here : https://depot.biblibre.com/gboisson/hackfest2013/ 13:42 cait jcamins: ah cool - I will check if I can get it from koha repo 13:42 cait jcamins: magnuse tested it successfully 13:44 marcelr biblibre_hackfest++ for all those bugs moving around 13:44 cait hi marcelr :) 13:45 marcelr cait++ for qa :) 13:45 cait thx :) 13:45 cait trying hard to get this queue down - but with a horde of librarians being so busy here it's just not working 13:45 tcohen 3.12? 13:45 wahanui 3.12 is, like, due to be released on May 22, 2013. Master entered a feature slush on March 15, 2013, and will enter a feature freeze on March 22, 2013 and a string freeze on May 1 13:45 marcelr shame that i had so little time this week 13:48 magnuse marcelr: the week is not over yet... ;-) 13:48 marcelr :) 13:48 tcohen what does the '-8' (a.k.a. 'Flag') value means for the 'hidden' value of a subfield? 13:49 tcohen (context: frameworks) 13:49 jcamins tcohen: nothing. 13:49 wahanui it has been said that nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though 13:49 jcamins (I'm pretty sure) 13:50 magnuse it's in the online help, i think? 13:50 tcohen i think i'll provide a patch that puts checkboxes there, and a js function to calculate the value 13:50 jcamins magnuse: "flag" 13:50 tcohen i'm done with going through the docs to find what to put there 13:51 magnuse tcohen_pissed: sounds like a great idea! 13:51 magnuse jcamins: flag? 13:51 tcohen_pissed that's what the docs say magnuse 13:52 oleonard I hope someone will post one of those group shots on Flickr with everyone's names. I see a few faces I don't recognize 13:52 jcamins magnuse: exactly. No one has any idea what "flag" means in this context. 13:52 magnuse ah, sorry, i see it now 13:52 jcamins At least, to the best of my knowledge. 13:53 cait tcohen_pissed: maybe take a look at the authorities frameworks too 13:53 jcamins The only hidden value that I can get to work consistently is 0. 13:53 cait tcohen_pissed: not sure, but I think there was something there 13:53 cait oleonard: did you find me and dpavlin? :) 13:54 oleonard cait: Yes! Judging by the pictures you two are the only ones working ;) 13:54 jcamins Where are the pictures? 13:54 cait heh 13:54 oleonard https://depot.biblibre.com/gboisson/hackfest2013/ 13:54 tcohen_pissed cait, you mean in master or a while ago? 13:54 cait tcohen_pissed: thought it was in master 13:54 tcohen_pissed thanks for the pointer cait 13:55 cait you are welcome :) 13:56 jcamins Interesting. 13:56 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 13:56 tcohen_pissed cait: it just presents "Show all" and "Hide all" option 13:56 cait oh 13:56 cait so it#s simpler, I see 13:57 cait well I think 4 checkboxes would be nice 13:57 cait staff intranet editor collapsed 13:57 tcohen_pissed s/staff/opac/ 13:57 cait marcelr: i am going to take another look at the issuingrules editing? that ok for you? 13:57 jcamins Agreed. 13:57 cait I stole the bug from your qa queue 14:01 cait hi maximep 14:03 marcelr cait: that is fine 14:08 tcohen_pissed oleonard: who are people from first picture? 14:09 oleonard That's dpavlin and cait 14:09 * cait hides 14:10 jcamins Wait... 14:10 dpavlin evil gnomes working on Koha :-) 14:10 jcamins I see. 14:10 cait it looks like I was failing a patch at that moment 14:10 oleonard clrh in the background, and magnuse next to cait? 14:11 cait yep :) 14:11 cait heya libsysguy 14:11 wahanui rumour has it libsysguy is koha's hottest developer or partying with Swedes on his deck 14:11 cait we are in France! 14:12 oleonard France++ 14:13 libsysguy heya cait 14:15 libsysguy hey wahanui fixed my name 14:18 jcamins libsysguy: huh? 14:20 oleonard jcamins: for a while libsysguy wasn't hot or partying anymore 14:21 cait jcamins: about 9883 - I found it fixes the roblem for me after installing the missing module from koha-community.org 14:22 oleonard By the way cait I don't know what the problem was with the offline circ addon but when I switched it to a different user it worked (no more 'authentication failed') 14:24 cait oleonard: oh good - I wondered what it could have been 14:24 jcamins I should update 9883, clarify that I want a follow-up. 14:30 tcohen_pissed oleonard: should we stick with using CGI::checkbox from the .pl or can we arrange things on the template to add some checkboxes? 14:30 oleonard tcohen_pissed: Are you still pissed? :) 14:30 oleonard tcohen_pissed: It's better to do form stuff in the template if you can. 14:31 tcohen_pissed i'm fine with it, but found that everything is done in the .pl for marc_subfield_structure.tt 14:31 tcohen_pissed i thought it could be some coding guideline 14:32 oleonard We already have a bug to get rid of CGI-scrolling-list, so I would think checkboxes are the same kind of thing 14:32 paul_p oleonard = today it was "cheese lunch". If you plan to come to KohaCon13, I promize i'll get some cheese for you with me ;-) 14:32 oleonard paul_p: I will be there! 14:32 tcohen Bric paul_p? 14:33 paul_p tcohen bric ? (or do you mean "brie" ?) 14:33 bag YAY cheese lunch was awesome! 14:33 bag paul_p++ for cheese :) 14:33 oleonard tcohen: I would consider it an improvement to move the checkbox-handling into the template, although I don't know the details of this particular case. 14:33 tcohen yes paul_p 14:33 paul_p tcohen there was no brie (but more than 40 different cheeses) 14:33 * oleonard sheds a tear for missing the cheese lunch 14:34 paul_p tcohen including camembert & roquefort & many odor-full cheese. the room smell strange today ;-) 14:37 tcohen heh 14:38 magnuse yeah, lunch was awesome! 14:39 oleonard DataTables doesn't fire off an event on sort? Grumble. 14:40 oleonard Hm, maybe that info was on an earlier version? 14:40 tcohen oleonard: how do I hook a checkbox to trigger some js function on value change? 14:42 oleonard With jQuery you would attach a click function and inside the function check whether the checkbox was checked or not 14:45 cait tcohen: maybe you could calculate on saving in the perl file even? 14:46 cait ah, but probably needs more of a rewrite 14:46 tcohen exactly 14:52 tcohen what is the event for checkboxes oleonard? $("input[name^='hidden_']").? 14:53 jcamins tcohen: $(...).click(function () {...}); 14:56 oleonard Okay, so DataTables has a sort event, but it fires even if you don't have a default sort. Grumble. 14:56 oleonard tcohen: jcamins answered 14:56 jcamins julian_m++ 14:56 cait Joubu++ 14:57 cait bug 4354 14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4354 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cannot edit existing issuing rules 14:59 cait woohoo :) and bug 9117 14:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Reports hierarchies management improvements 14:59 cait 3.12 gonna rock :) 14:59 jcamins What is the difference between a slip and a quick slip? 15:00 tcohen qslip is only checkouts 15:00 jcamins Ah. 15:00 jcamins Thanks. 15:00 jcamins khall: around? 15:01 cait jcamins: quick only has today's stuff, slip is complete patron account 15:01 khall jcamins: here 15:01 jcamins khall: I'm looking at bug 9014. 15:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add time due to slips 15:02 jcamins It looks good, but I'm not sure I understand the updated POD. 15:03 jcamins In particular, $dateonly. 15:03 oleonard Ugh, the DataTables API docs are so incomplete 15:03 jcamins I know you didn't add that, but with the addition of a time format I'm a little unsure why it still exists. 15:03 khall I'm not sure what you are asking about jcamins 15:03 khall I didn't modify the pod at all, did I? 15:04 jcamins Yeah. 15:04 jcamins You changed the function signature for output_pref. 15:04 khall nm, I see it 15:04 jcamins Sorry, should have specified where I was looking. 15:05 jcamins I'm going to push the patch regardless, but I'm trying to understand why we have $force_time *and* $dateonly. 15:05 khall $force_time can force a hour/minute format 15:05 jcamins $dateonly is orthogonal to the date format, but why aren't we just specifying "none" in the time format? 15:07 khall basically because it would have required modifying more existing code, which I tend to avoid when possible. It would have made for a larger patch 15:07 jcamins I feel like your $force_time parameter solves (or can solve) the same problem as $dateonly, but more elegantly. 15:07 jcamins Okay. 15:07 jcamins That makes sense to me. 15:07 khall I see what you mean though 15:08 khall perhaps an enhancement bug should be filed to remove $date_only from the code 15:08 jcamins Reading the POD I wasn't sure if I was missing a third dimension or not. 15:08 jcamins Yeah, I was thinking that. 15:08 jcamins Thanks. 15:08 khall I'd be willing to give it a go 15:08 * jcamins pushes 9014. 15:09 magnuse woohoo! 15:09 magnuse what is it? 15:10 jcamins bug 9014 15:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add time due to slips 15:10 jcamins :) 15:12 tcohen oleonard, i have a problem with attaching the function using jQuery, the problem is that I need to know the tab that checkbox is 15:12 tcohen so it looks like i'd better hardcode the onClick stuff on each from the template, with the tab name as parameter 15:13 jcamins tcohen: no need. 15:13 jcamins $().click(function () { alert($(this).parents('.tabclass').attr('id')); }); 15:13 jcamins Can you tell I've been doing this a lot? :) 15:14 tcohen heh 15:14 rambutan @seen bag 15:14 huginn rambutan: bag was last seen in #koha 40 minutes and 46 seconds ago: <bag> paul_p++ for cheese :) 15:14 cait bag is here rambutan 15:14 cait talking to paul_p 15:14 cait we are at the same table! :D 15:15 rambutan so where is this? 15:15 oleonard jcamins: FYI: http://jsperf.com/jquery-parents-vs-closest/24 15:16 jcamins oleonard: whoah! I never heard of closest! 15:16 oleonard Yeah, I just learned about it recently. Apparently it's a lot faster in a lot of cases 15:16 jcamins This will hugely simplify vast swathes of Javascript! 15:19 paul_p jcamins = it seems you're pushing. Could you please push to git.koha-community often (someone is waiting for a "patch pushed" to test another one) 15:19 bag the more yui I see disappear - surprisingly is making me more happy :) 15:19 jcamins paul_p: sure. 15:19 jcamins Done. 15:19 paul_p jcamins thx a lot ! 15:20 cait bag: rambutan was looking for you :) 15:20 bag thanks cait - found him in a PM :) 15:22 jcamins Bug 9893 filed. 15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha::DateUtils::output_pref should not use $dateonly parameter 15:22 jcamins That'll be for 3.14. 15:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #1093 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 10 hr ago) 15:24 matthewboh Has anyone used an old Android or iPhone for a scanner! 15:25 jcamins Looks like someone attached the wrong patch to bug 9757? 15:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Make staff client list contents view more like search results 15:25 oleonard Oi! 15:25 datadoctor Hi All! Since our update to 3.10, we have a small number of patrons who have problems logging in. We originally identified a problem with the time period for sessions and changed the cronjob to a shorter time limit. 15:26 datadoctor However some patrons are still reporting issues. Any idea why some could authenticate and not others? 15:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9014' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1f4866312e445117df96b74bce9093fd0b25fa0> / Bug 9014: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7643737d569859d81b9734da1e26d438d3fab69> / Bug 9014 - Add time due to slips <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b900f5f056416c6fd1875e4bf95cb0a3c3e 15:37 tcohen jcamins, is this valid in jquery? $("#hidden_collapsed_".tab) 15:37 tcohen (using variables for selection) 15:37 jcamins $("#hidden_collapsed_" + tab) 15:37 tcohen thanks 15:40 jcamins Is there a good reason that the modules in the log tool are in no order whatsoever? 15:42 jcamins Yay! Bug 7241 works! 15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Passed QA , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 15:44 bag busy two days ahead for QA's and RM :D 15:47 jcamins bag: one day for QA. 15:47 cait bag: do we look like we did nothing the past 3? :) 15:47 bag of course not :) 15:47 bag just saying busy day 15:50 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.199 pasted "After seeing this, I begin to think a bigger rewrite/DB columns patch would be better" (44 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/441 15:51 tcohen what do u think jcamins oleonard cait 15:52 jcamins o.O 15:52 jcamins Yeah... 15:52 jcamins I think you are right. 15:53 cait bag: ;) :) 15:53 cait tcohen: I am confused :) 15:55 datadoctor Go squashers! 15:55 datadoctor You rock! 15:55 oleonard If it improves the usability of that process I don't care how verbose it is. 15:55 tcohen cait, that's the javascript calculatio of the value that is documented http://manual.koha-community.org/3.8/en/catadmin.html#marcbibframeworks 15:55 tcohen i think its... sort of correct, but ugly 15:55 tcohen besides that, it would work 15:56 maximep is it a feature, a bug or a missing feature that a user can't do more than 1 reservation on an item ? 15:56 jcamins maximep: feature. 15:56 wahanui i heard feature was only for 856u (under xslt) and any links in the biblio or item in normal view.. ill do the xslt for normac and unimarc too when i figure it out 15:56 jcamins I don't necessarily agree with the feature, but it is a feature. 15:56 maximep trying to estimate the time it would take to have recurring reservations. Something like every week on friday from 10 to 12 15:57 jcamins The development time? 15:57 maximep would be way easier if I could just do all the reservations without having to change anything 15:57 maximep yes 15:57 jcamins A lot! 15:57 maximep yeah... first estimated it to something like 80 hours... now I have to explain why haha 15:59 maximep any idea of why this "feature" of 1 hold per borrower was done ? of course I will read all the code 15:59 jcamins That's standard for public libraries. 16:00 jcamins Bugzilla is down? 16:00 maximep ok. So I could add a syspref for it. That would be a start 16:00 maximep looks like it :/ 16:01 oleonard Slow, but works for me. 16:02 jcamins Definitely not working for me. 16:03 * jcamins tries again. 16:06 cait maximep: one reserve on biblio at the same time? 16:06 cait i think we got reports and patches for that in bugzilla 16:06 cait khall: around? 16:07 maximep oh cool! will look for them 16:07 khall yo 16:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9403' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9e4c68d277737c06dc8b73f951d69b1665c5c2a> / Bug 9403: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f7189678d47bb0fc0298ca8191b30f280e5beda> / bug 9403 tiny follow-up to validate podchecker <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e636bed7287163a1dfeb9 16:11 khall maximep: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7710 16:11 huginn 04Bug 7710: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Patch doesn't apply , multiple holds per title 16:11 jcamins Okay, time to head into the city. 16:12 khall depends on http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9394 16:12 huginn 04Bug 9394: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Patch doesn't apply , Use reserve_id where possible 16:12 cait i think it would be nice to have it in circulation rules actually :) 16:12 cait but that's me :) 16:12 maximep khall: thanks! 16:13 khall np 16:13 maximep every time someone adds proper pk to the db, a kitty is resurrected :p 16:13 * oleonard would like to have multiple holds per title be configurable by item type, collection code, and patron category 16:14 khall cait: if we can get it in with the global number, we can then look at making it circ rules based. 16:14 oleonard Is DataTable date sorting always broken for date+time? 16:14 cait khall: ok :) 16:15 cait oleonard: hm I 16:15 cait I don't know actually 16:17 tcohen paul_p: good you asked, hope i was clear 16:19 frido_s see you 16:25 oleonard Shoot, I'm gonna have to actually look at the DataTables date sorting code aren't I? :P 16:30 magnuse @later tell eythian: if you should happen to feel like fixing bug 9890 i'll sign off in ~15 hours :-) 16:30 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 16:30 * magnuse calls it a day 16:30 magnuse have fun, #koha! 16:30 jcamins bug 9890 16:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9890 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fix the new plugin system for package installs 16:32 jcamins khall: I'd really like the plugins to be working for the beta, so if you could fix 9890 and 9883 (or at least give it a try) I would be very grateful. 16:32 jcamins Also, bag, if you could test rangi's patch on a new install, I'd appreciate that as well. 16:32 * jcamins leaves 16:32 bag jcamins I did yesterday 16:33 bag oh wait 16:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1093: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1093/ 16:33 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9884 - Plugin permissions not added to translations 16:33 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9438: biblio notes displayed when adding order 16:33 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Follow-up Bug 9438 - Biblio notes displayed when ordering 16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9884 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Plugin permissions not added to translations 16:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9771 [Revised] Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket groups page with Bootstrap 16:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9769 [Revised] Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket page with Bootstrap 16:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9764 - Replace YUI buttons on authority search popup with Bootstrap 16:33 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 9718 - Add POD and comments for Check_Userid and Generate_Userid subs 16:33 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9045 : Adding --where parameter to filter what kind of borrowers to export and --separator to choose a specific caracter for patron export 16:33 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9045 - Adding some parameters to export_borrowers.pl 16:33 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9014 - Add time due to slips 16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9438 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Biblio notes displayed when ordering 16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9771 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket groups page with Bootstrap 16:33 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9014: Increment version number 16:33 bag jcamins: is there a bug number now? 16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9769 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket page with Bootstrap 16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9764 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on the authority search popup with Bootstrap 16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add POD and comments for Check_Userid and Generate_Userid subs 16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9045 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Adding some parameters to export_borrowers.pl 16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9014 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add time due to slips 16:33 bag YAY more YUI bits the dust 16:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #1094 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 11 hr ago) 16:34 reiveune bye 16:34 jcamins Oh, one last thing. 16:34 jcamins bag: not yet. 16:35 jcamins khall: also, could you take a look at the output on jenkins and see if you have any idea what the errors it is getting could be caused by? 16:38 bag jcamins: I will remind khall in a few 16:38 bag busy with another patch at the moment 16:58 oleonard Okay, so Bug 9887 is going to have to wait until we can find a date sorting algorithm that works with all date types *and* with datetimes. :( 16:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9887 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use DataTables on circulation page 16:58 * oleonard waves his magic wand and makes everyone use ISO date format 16:59 slef oleonard: did you have any thoughts on bug 7494? 16:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout 17:00 slef specifically the availability search 17:00 slef I'm digging into the search code and it seems non-trivial to do 17:00 oleonard I'm not surprised to hear it. I don't have any ideas for you without digging into search code myself. 17:00 slef I feel like I may have done this before and not found a neat solution without repeating lots of search.pl 17:01 oleonard I don't know the history of the bug 17:01 slef oh it's not documented - if it was, I'd know if I'd done it before. 17:02 slef I can try putting ( ( allrecords,AlwaysMatches='' not onloan,AlwaysMatches='') and (lost,st-numeric=0) ) on the search, but I think that caused some problem 17:03 slef (the above is what the OPAC does) 17:03 oleonard I'm also not quite sure what the use case is here. For items without a barcode? 17:03 slef yep 17:04 oleonard For catalogs with multiple copies I don't know how you'd know which you were dealing with. 17:05 slef either it doesn't really matter or you should barcode them 17:05 slef but the availability is a good addition 17:06 oleonard Doesn't really matter? How would that work? 17:06 slef if it's not checked in, you probably aren't issuing it 17:06 slef multiple truly-identical copies 17:06 oleonard That hurts my brain's librarian centers. 17:07 slef Believe it or not, some libraries only care that they've got N copies and don't much care exactly which one is where or how much a particular copy is circulated because they will junk all copies after 3 years. 17:07 slef If you've a good argument why they should care, let me know, but I couldn't think of one. 17:08 oleonard I could probably think of lots of reasons but that doesn't mean they would care :) 17:08 slef Junking all copies after 3 years rather undermined my "you need to know which one is needs repair at next check-in" 17:08 tcohen jcamins, de-serializing the hidden field from marc_subfield_structure into separate values is a really big rewrite. 17:14 gaetan_B bye ! 17:23 slef oleonard: aha, the problem was that a book matches the onloan index if any copies are issued :-/ 17:25 slef argh but if that's the case, how can the availability search in OPAC work? 17:26 slef surely this search "kw:phone and ( ( allrecords,AlwaysMatches:'' not onloan,AlwaysMatches:'') and (lost,st-numeric:0) )" should return a book if any copies are not onloan 17:31 tcohen do we have a dependency tree for C4 and Koha modules? 17:34 jcamins slef: availability search in the OPAC does not work. 17:34 jcamins Never has. 17:34 jcamins tcohen: yeah, that's why I said it should wait for 3.14. 17:34 slef jcamins: in the staff interface? 17:34 tcohen you said that? 17:35 jcamins tcohen: yes, "that's a good project for 3.14." :P 17:35 jcamins slef: it probably doesn't work in the staff client either. 17:35 jcamins In fact, I'm sure it doesn't. 17:35 jcamins Availability limits are fundamentally broken. 17:35 slef ok, I'll leave it undone in the new feature 17:36 jcamins Good plan. 17:36 slef @query availability limits 17:36 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2384 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Add location group as search limit in OPAC 17:36 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5958 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Availability Limit with icu 17:36 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9043 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Adding system preferences to control the visibility of the content on the Advanced Search page 17:36 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , updatedatabase improvements 17:38 oleonard Oh yeah, make that "A date sort function that works with three different date formats, each with or without times in two different formats" 17:38 oleonard No problem. 17:38 jcamins oleonard: use the added-data sort feature. 17:38 oleonard Sort on hidden data? 17:39 jcamins I don't remember what it's called, but Datatables can sort on data that's been attached to its cells in a non-CDATA sort of way. 17:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1094: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1094/ 17:44 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 7241: circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 17:44 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 7241 follow-up: DB changes 17:44 jenkins_koha * Adrien Saurat: Bug 7241, follow-up: viewlog link for circulation 17:44 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 7241: Increment version number 17:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9403: Material type icons not showing for XSLT default view in intranet 17:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number 17:44 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 9403: Follow-up: Move "Type" in XSLT result list to match OPAC result list 17:44 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: bug 9403 tiny follow-up to validate podchecker 17:44 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9403: Increment version number 17:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Material type icons not showing for XSLT default view in intranet 17:45 tcohen we will have this for 3.14, for sure http://snag.gy/rYVJC.jpg 17:45 jcamins oleonard: http://www.datatables.net/plug-ins/sorting 17:46 jcamins And then you stick the dates in @data-iso-date 17:49 slef Changes submitted for bug 7494 17:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Use partial barcode or callnumber as a fallback for the barcode search in checkout 17:49 slef bbl 17:58 tcohen gmcharlt: bugs for 3.14, should be tagged 3.14 or master? 17:58 jcamins 3.14. 17:59 * gmcharlt would have said master :) 17:59 jcamins Once 3.12 is branched they'll be set back to master. 17:59 * gmcharlt reflects 17:59 gmcharlt ah, right - jcamins is right, if master is being used for 3.12 bugs 18:00 jcamins gmcharlt: I guess you have to be elected before we can branch 3.12 and I can hand over the keys to the master branch to you? 18:00 gmcharlt that would certainly be a courtesy to the community 18:00 gmcharlt although, of course, branching 3.12 is a separate issue from who is currently pushing patches to master 18:01 * jcamins tries electing gmcharlt the way the pope was elected in the Dan Brown novel... cheers and shouts "Galen Charlton" in unison with everyone else in the room. 18:01 jcamins I don't think that worked. 18:02 gmcharlt why is my office suddenly full of black smoke? 18:02 jcamins Yay! 18:02 jcamins Success! 18:03 gmcharlt not from my point of view! *cough*, *cough* 18:03 gmcharlt ;) 18:04 jcamins Assuming you're elected, did you have any thoughts about when you'd like to branch? 18:04 gmcharlt preferably as soon as I'm elected, so that we can keep master flowing 18:05 * jcamins is all for that! 18:11 cait bugs means new features/enhancements? 18:11 cait I mean the ones we are seatting to 3.14 now 18:11 cait and I miht not make much sense, I apologize for htat 18:13 oleonard ...unless we knew of an existing bug which couldn't be fixed in time for 3.12? 18:14 oleonard How is output_pref different from format_date? $it->{'dd'} = output_pref($it->{'date_due'}); 18:15 jcamins I do not know. 18:15 jcamins Where is format_date defined? 18:15 oleonard Dates.pm 18:16 jcamins output_pref also handles time. 18:16 jcamins But I think probably C4::Dates should be updated to handle time and output_pref made into a wrapper. 18:16 jcamins (and then eliminated) 18:16 oleonard Does the KohaDates filter work now with date + time? 18:17 jcamins I don't know. 18:17 jcamins tcohen: I would accept the Javascript for 3.12. 18:17 jcamins It's definitely a bug. 18:17 tcohen alright 18:17 oleonard So that wasn't part of the new time format pref jcamins? 18:17 cait oleonard: hm not sure - I mean bugs always can be master maybe? 18:17 cait ok brb 18:17 jcamins What are we talking about? 18:18 cait oleonard: I think yes - maybe try it 18:18 jcamins I think I missed some part of this conversation. 18:19 jcamins oleonard: if you mean "will format_date respect the TimeFormat syspref?" the answer is no. 18:20 oleonard jcamins: I was wondering whether the new TimeFormat system pref also updated the KohaDates template plugin to properly format times as well 18:20 oleonard I see that KohaDates.pm hasn't changed though. 18:20 jcamins Probably not. I had the impression that it already worked properly. 18:21 oleonard Worked properly to format dates according to the dateformat system preference and times according to the timeformat system preference? 18:21 jcamins Yes. 18:22 jcamins However, I didn't test that. 18:22 jcamins I was looking for regressions. 18:25 oleonard I don't think there's any existing instance in the templates where the KohaDates filter is used to format a datetime 18:26 jcamins So probably output_pref should be eliminated and format_date should be extended to optionally handle time as well. 18:27 jcamins Or, if we must, format_date should be eliminated. 18:27 jcamins But for 3.14. 18:28 oleonard Isn't DateUtils preferred because it's in the Koha:: namespace? 18:28 oleonard (over C4::DAtes) 18:28 jcamins Only if it is superior. 18:29 jcamins I think rangi wrote C4::Dates, which makes me automatically prefer it. 18:30 rangi that was a long long time ago, Koha:DateUtils is better 18:30 rangi ish 18:31 jcamins Okay, in that case format_date must be cleansed from the codebase with fire and output_pref used instead. 18:32 oleonard I wonder if it matters for my purposes that the (mostly) unformatted date is being output as "2009-06-22T23:59:00" instead of "2009-06-22 23:59:00"... 18:33 rangi im 99% sure the KohaDates plugin use output 18:33 rangi from C4::Dates 18:33 rangi cos DateUtils didn't exist when it was written 18:34 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=Koha/Template/Plugin/KohaDates.pm;h=00656fa5907146f6a8e85d5285bf4d8c11090349;hb=HEAD 18:34 jcamins Yeah. 18:34 rangi DateUtils is all post hourly loans 18:34 cait back 18:34 jcamins So C4::Dates should be made into a wrapper around Koha::DateUtils? 18:34 rangi and had a lot of issues early on 18:34 rangi but seems better now 18:34 rangi jcamins: that would be the easiest transition yep 18:35 rangi but the plugin could call dateutils 18:35 * jcamins looks around commandingly and says "Make it so." 18:35 rangi directly 18:35 wahanui hmmm... directly is easier... 18:35 jcamins ... 18:35 jcamins that always works when Jean Luc Picard says it. 18:35 rangi once DateUtils was objectified 18:35 rangi at the moment its just a bunch of helper routines 18:35 cait oleonard: hm I tested a patch today that failed qa that was going in this direction I think 18:36 cait oh scroling down... 18:36 rangi what i mean is 18:36 rangi my $date = C4::Dates->new( $text, 'iso' ); 18:36 rangi return $date->output("syspref"); 18:36 rangi is so much nicer than 18:36 cait I mean I tested something today that was for making the dates on th enotices tab sort correctly I think 18:36 cait let me find it 18:36 jcamins Yeah. 18:36 bgkriegel hi, is bugs.k-c site working for you? 18:36 oleonard On one line we have $it->{'displaydate'} = output_pref($it->{'issuedate'});, on another we have $it->{'checkoutdate'} = C4::Dates->new($it->{'issuedate'},'iso')->output('syspref'); 18:36 jcamins Agreed. 18:37 cait bug 9084 18:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9084 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Dates in notices should be formatted according to dateformat system preference 18:37 rangi so if we made output, call output_pref 18:37 rangi then that would fix that 18:37 rangi :) 18:38 rangi but yeah it needs a cleanup 18:38 rangi but not now 18:38 rangi now would make 3.12 a nightmare 18:38 * oleonard weeps, "All I want to do is sort dates correctly!" 18:38 rangi too late in the cycle 18:38 jcamins Probably a Koha::Dates that takes as an argument to the constructor either a string, string with incoming format, or datetime, and then we could have an output routine, similar to C4::Dates. 18:38 jcamins Much too late. 18:39 jcamins oleonard: I maintain that you best option is going to be a custom sort on data-date-iso 18:39 jcamins *your 18:39 rangi yep, make everything be a pair, iso and then whatever you display 18:39 rangi and always sort on iso 18:39 rangi anything else is just a mess 18:39 oleonard That's what I'm trying to do. 18:39 jcamins Yay! 18:39 rangi cool! 18:40 rangi id use the date straight from the db then 18:40 rangi to sort on 18:40 oleonard I'm simply confused about the "unformatted" dates I'm getting back when I remove output_pref() 18:40 oleonard "2009-06-22T23:59:00" is not straight-from-the-db formatted 18:41 rangi no its a datetime object 18:41 oleonard Do I care? 18:42 rangi nope 18:42 rangi it will sort fine 18:44 oleonard Everyone has ' UseTablesortForCirc ' turned off anyway though right? :P 18:44 jcamins Probably. 18:46 oleonard You're not encouraging me jcamins! 18:46 jcamins I mean, no, we all have UseTablesortForCirc turned on! 18:58 rangi hmm needs signoff went back up today 18:58 rangi ahh mostly out of patch doesnt apply queue 18:58 jcamins It's down to 80! 18:59 rangi it was down to 73 18:59 rangi :) 18:59 jcamins Wow! 18:59 jcamins Nice! 18:59 rangi yup 18:59 cait it was even at 6x in between 18:59 rangi they halved it in 2 days 18:59 cait and we fought hard 18:59 jcamins That's awesome! 18:59 cait but lost hte fight against the qa queue 18:59 rangi at leats that hasnt gone up 19:00 rangi i mean 19:00 rangi Katrin Fischer - 48 19:00 jcamins What was it at the end of the day yesterday? 19:00 rangi Jonathan Druart - 36 19:00 rangi Paul Poulain - 20 19:00 jcamins I ddin't look. 19:00 jcamins *didn't 19:00 rangi thats a lot of passed qa 19:00 rangi M. de Rooy - 12 19:00 cait i hope some more tomorrow 19:00 cait some have been in the loop going back and forth 19:00 rangi *nod* 19:00 rangi that happens 19:01 cait there is especially one I would really like to see 19:01 cait linking acq and serials 19:01 cait creating orders for serials without having to create items 19:01 rangi ah yeah 19:01 rangi hopefully that works 19:01 cait one of the nice librarians is testing and Joubu said he will take a look at her finding tomorrow morning... i still hope :) 19:02 cait I think it shoudl be close too by now, already saw a lot of testing 19:02 rangi cool 19:02 rangi master is feeling really solid 19:02 rangi 3.12 should be a good release 19:02 cait there is always a lot to do 19:02 cait but I am not too worried 19:02 rangi oh wow 19:02 rangi its 22nd 19:02 cait and we still got some time to iron out bugs 19:03 rangi i need to do releases today 19:03 jcamins Yes you do. 19:03 * rangi pings druthb 19:08 datadoctor I was having some patron authentication failures after updating Koha, looked at my sessions table, and it was gigantic. Turns out my robots.txt file didn't get transferred over, and Google was filling my sessions table! 19:09 rangi ahh yeah it will do that 19:09 rangi :) 19:10 rangi datadoctor: i find the memcached for sessions works much better than using mysql 19:11 rangi ok school run, then drs 19:11 rangi bbl 19:12 tcohen rangi, release dates? 19:12 jcamins Today/tomorrow. 19:13 rangi 22nd 19:13 rangi i do it nz time 19:13 rangi when you take over you can do it argentinian time :) 19:13 * jcamins does it EST. 19:13 tcohen :-P 19:13 rangi its easy to remember 19:13 rangi string freeze on the 15h 19:13 rangi 15th 19:13 rangi release ont he 22nd 19:13 rangi every month 19:14 rangi (except if we have to do a security one and then its asap) 19:14 tcohen of course 19:14 jcamins So everyone in NZ is going to have to spend an entire day eagerly awaiting 3.12. 19:14 rangi hehe 19:14 rangi ok, time to go 19:15 tcohen hehe 19:15 tcohen yes 19:16 jcamins Does anyone have opinions on mint liquor? 19:17 jcamins I need to get some to make mint chocolate chip cookies. 19:17 oleonard That sounds delicious 19:18 cait in cookies it sounds good :) 19:18 * oleonard will need some to get over Bug 9887 19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9887 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use DataTables on circulation page 19:18 * cait hands oleonard the mint chocolate liquor bottle 19:18 jcamins There are at least two kinds of mint liquor. 19:19 jcamins Peppermint schnapps and creme de menthe. 19:19 oleonard The cookies, not the liquor, cait! :) 19:19 jcamins oleonard: sounded to me like you needed the liquor. 19:19 cait jcamins: I am for the french version 19:19 cait oleonard: right... cookies are better than schnapps 19:20 jcamins cait: just because its name is French? 19:20 cait well it sounds better :) 19:21 oleonard Okay I take it back, I'm ready for the liquor. 19:22 cait if you talk like that... I am not sure if we should give it to you 19:22 cait you know... alcohol is no solution! 19:23 jcamins What if I called the other... das Pfefferminzschnaps? 19:23 oleonard But... The Ballmer Peak! http://xkcd.com/323/ 19:23 cait der 19:24 jcamins der Pfefferminzschnaps, then. 19:24 cait hm no it does not help 19:24 cait I am still in france 19:24 datadoctor Thanks for the memcached suggestion rangi! 19:24 jcamins It's "das Pfefferminz," so I think I get bonus points for a reasonable guess. 19:24 cait hm 19:24 cait actually when talking about the plant 19:25 cait it#s die Pfefferminze 19:25 cait das Pfefferminz is a candy 19:25 jcamins According to Leo it's "das Pfefferminz." :P 19:25 jcamins Oh. 19:25 cait :P 19:25 cait anyone feels sthe urge now to learn German? 19:26 datadoctor at least the subjunctive is easier than Russian 19:26 jcamins datadoctor: the Russian subjunctive isn't that difficult. 19:27 * cait won't aks what a subjunctive is 19:28 jcamins It's very similar to English, if you think about it: "*Were* I you, I wouldn't try to use a subjunctive sentence." 19:28 cait jcamins: bug 7973 19:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication 19:28 cait as testing ldap is quite hard I asked dobrica for a second sign off 19:29 cait if it passes the tests i am inclined to pass qa on it - do you want to veto? 19:29 jcamins Nope. 19:29 cait ok 19:29 cait then I will run it against my test script now 19:29 cait dpavlin++ 19:30 cait I was also hoping that given there is no serious problemfoudn with edifact tomorrow it might go in as "experimental" 19:31 cait the testing group wanted to do a regression test 19:31 jcamins I would probably be willing to do that. 19:31 jcamins Yes, regression tests are important. 19:31 cait ithink they did - I will ask paul tomorrow 19:32 cait it probably still needs work - but I think that will only happen when we give people a chance to test drive it 19:32 cait :) 19:33 cait and if we start with it working for some use cases it can be improved 19:33 jcamins Makes sense. 19:33 jcamins Does it have unit tests? 19:33 cait hmI will have to check 19:34 cait but I think it has 19:34 jcamins Good. 19:37 cait *sigh* 19:37 cait of course 19:37 cait we have an error in the qa scripts for the ldap patch 19:37 * cait grumps 19:37 jcamins :( 19:37 jcamins What's the error? 19:38 jcamins And qa_scripts++ # for catching errors 19:39 cait I just pasted it on the bug - want me to paste it here too? 19:39 jcamins Nah. 19:39 jcamins It'll show up in my e-mail shortly. 19:39 cait "my" variable $res masks earlier declaration in same scope 19:39 cait too late :) 19:39 jcamins Oh, at least it's nice and easy to fix. 19:39 cait yep probably :) 19:40 cait but it could mean a real problem, so I better have someone take a look 19:41 oleonard My favorite part is when DataTables doesn't give an error, it just doesn't do anything at all. 19:42 * cait gives in and hands you den pfefferminzschnaps 19:42 tcohen we all hate when there's an evident bug but things work: side effects! 19:48 oleonard cait: I think the pfefferminzschnaps worked! I'll have to test more later, though. Time to go. 19:48 cait bye oleonard :) 19:52 tcohen cait, is the signing a problem for bug 9659 19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports 19:53 cait checking :) 19:54 cait no, the signing is no problem - I see you also included all the feedback so far 19:54 cait I only see one problem - missing unit tests for the new subs 19:54 cait do you think you could provide some as a qa follow up? (doesn't need another sign off?) 19:54 tcohen yes, but not today 19:55 cait hm the feature deadline is until tomorrow evening I think 19:55 jcamins Yes. 19:55 cait it is classified as a bug not an enh 19:55 cait jcamins: what do you think? 19:55 jcamins Hm. 19:55 jcamins Bug. 19:56 cait tcohen: that gives you a bit more time :) 19:56 jcamins So, not quite such a rush. 19:56 jcamins But the sooner the better. 19:56 tcohen of course 19:56 tcohen thanks 19:58 cait tcohen: i noted it on the bug 20:15 cait hi NateC :) 20:15 NateC Hi cait! 21:11 rangi !jenkins build koha_master now 21:11 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now 21:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #1095 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 16 hr ago) 21:14 rangi i think it will just be the plugins code failing tests now, and i dont know how to fix that 21:14 eythian hi 21:14 wahanui bonjour, eythian 21:15 cait rangi: did you install the new module eythian packaged? 21:15 cait filed bundled something? 21:15 cait not sure if jared pushed both patches yet, but it worked for me so I could install passing all tests 21:16 rangi yep not that 21:16 rangi that was causing it totally asplode 21:16 rangi ok 12 - Test plugin can install 21:16 rangi Use of uninitialized value in string eq at t/db_dependent/Plugins.t line 36. 21:16 rangi not ok 13 - Test run plugin report method 21:16 rangi thats what is failing now 21:16 rangi then 21:17 rangi ok 16 - Test $plugin->get_plugin_http_path() 21:17 rangi Can't call method "GetPlugins" on an undefined value at t/db_dependent/Plugins.t line 44. 21:17 rangi # Looks like you planned 20 tests but ran 16. 21:17 rangi maybe it needs some config or something 21:17 cait yep not that? :) 21:19 rangi can you bug khall about it if you see him :) 21:20 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 21:20 mtompset rangi++ 21:20 rangi hi mtompset 21:20 cait hm can try 21:20 cait easier with a bugtho :) 21:21 cait I already have a long page of notes for tomorrow next tome 21:21 mtompset I totally forgot about the koha-disable/koha-enable. 21:21 rangi :) 21:22 rangi cait: well if the tests aren't passing on jenkins, it might have to come back out, so just say, look at jenkins, and figure out how to fix the failing tests cos you dont want it reverted 21:22 rangi that would be incentive for him i would think :) 21:23 cait already been doing that to him today - poor kyle! 21:24 eythian fyi package builds are the easiest way of testing these things, as they're done in a totally clean environment 21:24 rangi *nod* 21:25 rangi running build-git-snapshot is a good way to test 21:30 cait rangi: ok - noted 21:34 maximep is it possible that the patch in bug 8337 doesn't apply with git bz apply, but works with git apply ? 21:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8337 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Patch doesn't apply , System preferences for longoverdue cron 21:35 rangi it is possible yes 21:35 rangi git bz does git am 21:35 rangi part of git am is git apply 21:35 rangi but you could git apply it 21:36 rangi the git bz attach it 21:36 rangi or git format-patch 21:36 rangi and attach it 21:36 rangi and them it would be git bz (or git am) applicable 21:36 maximep ok, first time using git bz 21:36 maximep to send 21:36 maximep git bz attach 8337 HEAD 21:36 maximep is all i need to do, right ? 21:36 maximep after my commit, of course 21:37 rangi -e as well 21:37 rangi so you can obsolete the old one 21:37 rangi git bz attach -e 8337 HEAD 21:38 cait and set status :) 21:38 cait also make sure you are using the fishsoup branch from th git repo for full koha functionality :) 21:42 rangi khall: i can replicate the jenkins fail on my machine here, check out master and run t/db_dependent/Plugins.t 21:43 rangi khall: so there is most likely some config missing that isnt being added by thte Makefile ? 21:43 maximep cait: I just followed instructions at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 21:43 cait rangi: hm maybe - I guess you reran makefile with update already? 21:43 maximep is that the right branch ? 21:44 cait I did that today while testing, so it might have changed something 21:44 cait maximep: I think you are on the master branch of that repo now - try git checkout fishsoup there 21:44 rangi cait: jenkins does a fresh make everytime, so the update might work .. but its missing something on its fresh one, it might be something needs to be added to the test setup 21:44 cait well git checkout -b fishsoup maybe :) 21:45 cait hm I think i will point him to th elogs here - hopefully he can figure it out 21:45 rangi cait: install_misc/environment_Makefile.PL 21:45 rangi point him to that 21:46 rangi that is what jenkns uses to do its config 21:46 rangi source install_misc/environment_Makefile.PL 21:46 rangi perl Makefile.PL 21:46 rangi the reset sets all the env variables to you can run the makefile without needing someone hitting yes 21:47 rangi maybe it needs a new option? 21:47 cait no idea 21:47 cait but I will point 21:47 rangi cool 21:49 maximep well, the fishsoup branch crashes on git apply 21:49 maximep xmlrpclib.ProtocolError: <ProtocolError for bugs.koha-community.org/xmlrpc.cgi: 404 Not Found> 21:49 cait oh? 21:49 cait hm 21:49 maximep *on git bz apply 21:49 cait werid 21:49 cait let me check 21:50 maximep and shouldn't the changes fron that branch be merged back in master someday ? 21:50 cait I am not sur ehow it works 21:50 cait might be master is the original script 21:50 cait we adapted it to our needs 21:51 cait maximep: I am runnign git-bz from the current fishsoup brnach and dobrica updated t it today at the hackfest - wonder what's going wrong for you :( 21:51 cait did you give it your login information? 21:52 maximep yes, the master works fine after all 21:52 cait the fishsoup branch lets you do some cool koha things 21:53 cait like changing the patch complexity 21:53 rangi and status 21:53 maximep well, I will do those things the good old way :p 21:54 maximep don't have time to debug why the branch isn't working for me 21:54 rangi if it works, all good :) 21:56 maximep ok, git bz is really amazing 21:57 cait it is :) 22:02 cait rangi++ #qa follow up for 7973 22:03 cait and dpavlin++ #for testing it :) 22:03 cait well not the follwo up in fact but the bug... and that's especiall ynice since I needed an ldap user testing it :) 22:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1095: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1095/ 22:26 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1095/testReport/ 22:26 rangi just the 2 now 22:27 cait ok 22:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7368' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f4eacc2da29981c258d4256071e3fc62d2e2d4ab> / Bug 7368: POD doc in VirtualShelves.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7575a8eb8f7d69a80f5c71b6a6de1415b024b7a2> / Merge branch 'bug_9879' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=22415bc7333727c5dcc7639 22:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1096 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 17 hr ago) 22:46 jcamins Didn't I push bug 9117? 22:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Reports hierarchies management improvements 22:46 rangi hmm 22:47 jcamins Oh, right, all good except a missing unit test. 22:47 jcamins Never mind. 22:47 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. 22:47 jcamins I knew I had tested it and liked what I saw. 22:47 cait yep it's nice 22:47 cait well I like it :) 22:48 cait i also like that I will be able to edit issuingrules hopefully 22:48 cait lots of good stuff :) 22:48 jcamins Has that passed QA? 22:48 cait yep 22:49 jcamins 4354. 22:49 jcamins I see it. 22:49 rangi http://www.riversoflearning.com/ls560spring2013/ 22:49 rangi they use koha .. proper koha :) 22:51 jcamins Yay! 23:09 eythian magnus_away: are you arou...oh you're away 23:09 cait asleep probably 23:10 jcamins Hehe. 23:10 cait like I should be :) 23:10 cait night #koha 23:21 * rangi ducks out for lunch in the sun 23:22 jcamins Don't get burnt to a crisp. 23:25 jcamins Have I complained recently about the fact that you have to click "Test prediction pattern" every time you edit a subscription, regardless whether or not you changed it? 23:33 jcamins Oh, look at that. 23:33 jcamins I complain, a patch appears. 23:36 jcamins ... and I fail it. 23:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8089' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af89f98a7a82e098a5248c4f2d3c9ff3cd5de201> / Bug 8089: Cache sysprefs with Koha::Cache::Object <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2c8262faef00a2727ac201be34d88cdb0544d99> / Merge branch 'bug_8509' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc49dc70fbad 23:40 melia did I miss oleonard? 23:40 melia I am trying to test bug 9882 but have a question about how datatables is supposed to work 23:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9882 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use DataTables on batch modifications pages 23:40 jcamins Yeah, he leaves at 4ish. 23:40 jcamins What's the question? 23:40 wahanui rumour has it the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 23:40 * jcamins might know the answer. 23:40 jcamins Probably not, but we can hope. 23:40 melia so when I sort the columns, they do sort. but I'm not sure if they're sorting the way they're supposed to. 23:40 melia for example, when I sort by Title, it gives me A to Z from top to bottom. 23:41 jcamins Makes sense. 23:41 melia when I sort by Current Location, it gives me Z to A from top to bottom. 23:41 melia is that normal? 23:41 jcamins No, that's a problem. 23:41 melia ok I will make some notes on the bug report 23:41 jcamins If you note on the bug which are backwards, oleonard will fix it. :) 23:41 melia also, are you supposed to be able to click the little arrow again to sort in the opposite direction, like go from A to Z and change to Z to A? or is it only meant to work in one direction? 23:42 jcamins Yes, they should reverse the sort. 23:42 jcamins Well, usually. 23:42 melia ok I will ask about that as well. thanks jcamins! 23:42 jcamins In some cases I suppose it might not be possible to reverse the sorting. 23:42 jcamins But we hope those cases are few and far between. 23:43 melia :) 23:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1096: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1096/ 23:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9879 - Use DataTables on suggestions management page 23:47 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7368: POD doc in VirtualShelves.pm 23:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9879 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on suggestions management page 23:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , General staff client typo omnibus 23:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #1097 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1088 1 day 18 hr ago) 23:51 mtompset Greetings, tcohen and jcamins. 23:51 tcohen hi mtompset 23:51 mtompset Greetings, melia. 23:51 melia hello mtompset 23:51 mtompset CentOS is a serious pain! 23:51 jcamins Hello. 23:51 jcamins That would be why I don't use it. 23:52 mtompset I've figured out a way to nicely package the missing perl libraries for Koha. But there getting it there is painful. 23:52 mtompset Just like my bad grammer. 23:52 mtompset And spelling. :) 23:53 jcamins Good news about the Perl libraries! 23:54 mtompset If I succeed... then installing Koha should be easy after that. 23:54 mtompset But why oh why does CentOS 6.4 only have 5.10.x perl? That's like years out of date! 23:55 tcohen and next major release is a couple of years far....