Time Nick Message 23:56 rangi (in case it hasnt been posted before) 23:56 rangi http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013/03/people/movers-shakers-2013/galen-charlton-movers-shakers-2013-tech-leaders/ 23:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1085 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:37 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9843' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba22e7daf6bf0344217894e0ac1bad3d6d8022ef> / Bug 9843: Include OpenILS directory in Perl lib directory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4dbd7c452878ef9eea411f54e3f90820bc8a3e1f> 22:49 maximep well, ignore that question. Turns out that code is complicated -_- 22:35 maximep anyone knows why the item barcode would be shown in serials edit ? I guess PrepareItemrecordDisplay in Items never returns a value for the field ? 22:18 dcook Morning #koha 21:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9295 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Introduce operator equal/ notequal to OAI set mapping instead of hardcoded 'equal' value 21:56 drojf i rebased bug 9295 for your signoff pleasure 21:20 cait drojf++ 21:14 jcamins drojf++ 21:14 jcamins Woohoo! 21:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9817 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Add Goodreads reviews tab to the OPAC 21:14 drojf ha. i signed off on bug 9817 20:38 wizzyrea oh I don't care about karma - I do care about koha though 20:37 jcamins You can do any two and you'll still get karma. :) 20:37 wizzyrea will check when I have a minute 20:37 wizzyrea those two may have been grabbed already 20:37 jcamins Yay! 20:36 wizzyrea but I will def try to today 20:36 wizzyrea I had two in mind actually, but headed into a meeting :( 20:36 * jcamins waves to wizzyrea, who surely wants to sign off on two patches. 20:36 * wizzyrea waves 20:35 cait hi wizzyrea 20:35 cait [off] :( ? 20:34 jcamins [off] :( 20:33 drojf [off] first they took my subject and took away all the crazy fun parts that i could do two phd's with instead of an MA, today they took away my second supervisor. i got one week to get this registered or i lose my university jobs. yay 20:30 jcamins [off] Eww. 20:30 jcamins ^^ see? Fun! 20:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9817 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add Goodreads reviews tab to the OPAC 20:30 jcamins Bug 9817 looks fun! 20:29 drojf [off] heh. i'd love to but i'm completely out of order. this "getting my thesis registered" thing is driving me nuts. 20:27 jcamins In fact, everyone is waiting for you to sign off on two patches and bring the needs signoff queue below 100. 20:27 jcamins drojf: it's going well. 20:17 drojf how is the hackfest going? 20:17 drojf good evening #koha 20:13 oleonard See you later #koha 20:05 bgkriegel almost :) I'm redoing 5858. 20:04 oleonard 101 19:48 oleonard bgkriegel++ 19:46 jcamins \o/ 19:46 bgkriegel it works, i'm signing 19:46 * oleonard crosses his fingers 19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin 19:45 jcamins bug 8278 19:44 bgkriegel ok 19:44 oleonard It's not a true authority, just pulling from existing entries. 19:44 oleonard biblioitems.publishercode 19:43 bgkriegel found: authoritites. 19:42 bgkriegel oleonard: testing 8278, where are the publishers defined? 19:40 oleonard I sure hope you feel better soon 19:39 bgallagher I can finally lay in bed now so that's good and makes it better 19:38 oleonard Oh no 19:38 oleonard :( 19:38 bgallagher Not good 19:38 bgallagher Bad food or water sometime 19:38 bgallagher Owen I am so sick 19:37 oleonard Back from dinner eh bgallagher? 19:35 bgallagher Oh yeah it could 19:35 oleonard "Patron was previously restricted until 04/03/2013" Does that not potentially imply that they are no longer restricted? 19:34 bgallagher Cool - how about previously restricted 19:34 oleonard "Patron is still restricted until 04/03/2013" ? 19:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8231 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Warning on Check in if borrower is restricted 19:34 * oleonard is looking at Bug 8231 19:34 oleonard A better way to say "Patron was earlier restricted until 04/03/2013" ? 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin 19:12 oleonard Oh look Bug 8278 is on that list, that one looks like fun! 19:10 oleonard On the other hand, only 21 non-enhancement bugs awaiting signoff, which is a pretty nice number. 19:08 oleonard 104. Help me out guys, only 5 more to get us below 100. 18:44 rangi ok school run time 18:44 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning.2013-03-19-17.59.log.html 18:44 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning.2013-03-19-17.59.txt 18:44 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning.2013-03-19-17.59.html 18:44 huginn Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 18:41:18 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) 18:44 nancyk #endmeeting 18:44 rangi :) 18:43 nancyk Thanks for not making me talk to myself .... I'm determined, not discouraged 18:42 nancyk #action next meeting March 23 UTC 21 18:42 nancyk i was just pulling chains 18:41 rangi thanks very much for all your hard work, and tell me to shut up if i get annoying :) it will work out fine, it always does :) 18:40 rangi (9pm for them) 18:40 rangi and still early enough for the europeans in the evening 18:40 rangi id be at work and could type without a 3 year old helping 18:40 nancyk ok, then your kids will be in school 18:40 rangi that would be 9am 18:39 rangi how about 1pm your time? 18:39 rangi ohh easy 18:39 nancyk 11:38 AM 18:38 rangi hm what time is it now for you? 18:38 nancyk what time of day would you like for the next meeting? 18:38 rangi checked them out when the picked up their badge 18:37 rangi yup 18:37 nancyk but fun 18:37 rangi (silly gimmick) 18:37 rangi and circulated people :) 18:37 rangi for kohacon10 we used koha to track registrations :) 18:37 nancyk next meeting March 23 18:36 rangi it was shared with attendees 18:36 wahanui that is, like, in march 18:36 nancyk where can i find that? 18:36 rangi i think almost everyone did at kohacon12 18:36 rangi hmm if its opt in yep 18:35 nancyk would the wiki be hidden enough? 18:35 rangi i think most will opt in though 18:34 rangi we have some privacy concious people 18:34 nancyk ok 18:34 rangi yep, so you will want to have a button that they can opt in to that 18:34 nancyk I want to be clear it will be shared with members 18:33 rangi their names, library etc 18:33 nancyk what details? 18:33 nancyk what time of day would you prefer? 18:32 rangi asking (can we share your details) 18:32 nancyk #topic next meeting 18:32 rangi right, you might want to add a button the registration form then 18:32 nancyk i also want to get a list of libraries and contacts from attendees for next year 18:31 nancyk i'll have a look 18:31 rangi cool 18:31 rangi https://blip.tv/the-curious-and-wondering-eye/ 18:30 nancyk I saw some a while ago 18:30 nancyk We have a company that may do that for us for some chosen programs 18:30 rangi did i show you the kohacon10 ones? 18:29 rangi to look back on 18:29 rangi if you could do slightly delayed streaming, ie record and stream .. the recordings are useful 18:29 nancyk i have a plan to email an invite to library orgs who might be interested in attending 18:29 nancyk ok, thaanks 18:28 Thebrookinator I've to change the laundry then get to another meeting. Email me if ye want. 18:28 rangi ohh awesome 18:28 nancyk We are buying a Go Pro camera for some live streaming ..... The Todd cam 18:27 nancyk #topic other 18:27 nancyk good point 18:27 Thebrookinator Hehehe 18:27 rangi at least none of those ones will want payment :) 18:26 Thebrookinator ^ 18:26 rangi nancyk: maybe look at the proposals and pick one :) 18:26 nancyk sounds great 18:26 rangi (everyone else is in marseille out eating dinner i suspect) 18:25 * rangi is sorry he was late, i have 2 kids im trying to get ready for school and kindergarten at the same time 18:25 Thebrookinator Yeah that's so. I'd not mind that changed or kept the same. No preference as long as it's inspirational 18:25 rangi sometimes it works, sometimes it goes horribly wrong :) 18:25 rangi lots of conferences have a keynote from someone who they think would be interesting but often knows nothing about the conference/topic :) 18:24 nancyk later' 18:24 nancyk be thinking, we can talk about it more 18:24 rangi no, outside the area of the conference, not geography :) 18:24 Thebrookinator Yeah Jo is hardly Indian xd 18:24 rangi Thebrookinator: who keynoted from outside library land? 18:23 rangi it has ? 18:23 rangi (paul and I did kohacon09, rosalie blake (the first koha librarian) did kohacon10) 18:23 nancyk don't know, new at this..... I like to be different 18:23 Thebrookinator KohaCon has done both of those 18:23 rangi or more of the kohacon style ? 18:23 rangi do you want to do a traditional keynote of someone totally outside the area? 18:22 rangi hmm 18:22 rangi well maybe 2 days before so you can load them onto the presenation computer :) but we've never done submit your whole talk before you do it before, and it works better than any conference ive been to that does that :-) 18:22 nancyk ok, on the the opening speaker RM, who? 18:21 nancyk Yikes! That's exciting! 18:21 rangi The day they present it :) 18:20 nancyk when do we need to see the final product, as in more than an idea? 18:20 rangi Slides can be the day before 18:20 rangi No but your proposal will be 18:19 Thebrookinator So you'll be all finished your talk with slides by next month or what? 18:19 rangi We had an mc at kohacon10, Russel, worked well 18:19 nancyk #topic Opening speaker 18:18 nancyk ok, you got it! 18:18 rangi I'd go April 14 18:18 rangi Otherwise we will run the risk of not having the programme finalised in time for ppl to ask for permission to attend 18:17 nancyk ok set one 18:17 rangi Set deadlines and ppl will stop procrastinating 18:16 rangi We do need a cut off date 18:16 nancyk #topic hackfest 18:16 nancyk I know 18:15 Thebrookinator If you ever figure that out, you'll be a rich lady. We're largely a community of procrastinators. It all comes right in the end though 18:15 nancyk Thanks 18:15 nancyk Hey nancy, you are doing a great job! 18:14 nancyk How do we get people who have promised to do one, to get them posted? 18:14 nancyk #topic Cut-off date for submission of programs 18:12 nancyk #topic Master of ceremonies Do we need someone to announce people and keep things moving along per schedule? 18:11 nancyk any volunteers? 18:10 nancyk #topic we could use a co-chair 18:10 TheBrookinator Hooray moar folks at Conference 18:09 nancyk #info Please submit your idea for a presentation now, rather than later. They will attract people to come to the convention. 18:09 nancyk #info We have 8 presentation offers so far. 18:08 nancyk #info 23 people have registered for KohaCon 13 so far. 18:08 nancyk #topic KohaCon 13 update 18:08 nancyk ok, i'll go ahead then 18:07 TheBrookinator Don't look at me I'm just following the date and time link. 18:06 nancyk i'll give it a minute, and then report 18:05 jcamins So far as I know you have the correct time. 18:05 rhcl #info Greg Lawson Rolling Hills Consolidated Library, St. Joseph, MO 18:05 jcamins Most people are in Marseilles. 18:04 nancyk have i goofed up because of daylight savings time? 18:03 TheBrookinator Hi KohaCon folks :) 18:02 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient 18:02 nancyk #topic introductions 18:02 huginn Current chairs: nancyk 18:02 nancyk #chair nancyk 18:02 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'kohacon_13_planning' 18:02 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 18:02 huginn Meeting started Tue Mar 19 17:59:10 2013 UTC. The chair is nancyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:02 nancyk #startmeeting KohaCon 13 Planning 17:51 TheBrookinator Marseilles++ 17:51 datadoctor Thank you hackfesters! 17:50 magnuse have fun, anyway! 17:50 magnuse perhaps there wil be less than 100 when the hackfest resumes? ;-) 17:49 magnuse and nz soon 17:49 magnuse 106 bugs need signoff - the hackfesters in marseille are calling it a day - it's up to the people in the americas now! ;-) 17:49 TheBrookinator Ha! I will ghetto alt tab the logs. 17:45 TheBrookinator Ugh can't see chat through mibbit on my touch 17:44 TheBrookinator Hey 17:44 tcohen bye #koha 17:36 cait :) 17:32 sophie_m bye #koha 17:26 oleonard Assigned I suppose 17:26 cait we just need 6 more bug activies to reach yesterday :P 17:26 cait can I move it to failed qa then? or in discussion? 17:25 cait ah good 17:23 jcamins I think bgkriegel is fixing the patch to not delete any fields. 17:22 cait what do other think? the problem with deleting fields is that koha throws away fields it does not know on saving 17:21 cait but hm. 17:21 cait no i tihnk we should not delete I think 17:21 oleonard cait: Yes 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9353 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks 17:21 cait and I meant bug 9353 17:21 cait pretty hard to keep track of things right now 17:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9535 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work 17:21 cait oleonard: was your comment earlier about bug 9535? 17:20 jcamins Yes, what cait said. 17:18 cait long day :) 17:17 clrh cait: yep it was into the next comment >< 17:17 huginn 04Bug 9239: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries 17:17 clrh http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239#c19 ookay 17:17 cait clrh: not sure jcamins is still here - but I think they are planning to do that - moving it into cpan long term 17:15 clrh (continuing reading ) 17:15 clrh if it can be considered as external library why not moving it in a cpan module for example ? 17:14 clrh jcamins: I am having a look to PQF query parser, is there a better way to understand things ? I looked at test, but I don't understand well the purpose of OpenILS directory 17:07 magnuse i might have to upgrade between each test, though, because the problem involves config files... 17:06 magnuse tcohen: that should not be too hard 17:01 * magnuse looks up git bisect 17:00 tcohen if you have a script that can test for the bug, use git bissect 16:59 jcamins magnuse: git bisect? :) 16:49 magnuse jcamins: i'm not sure, it might have been a while since i tried searching on a dev install... 16:46 jcamins (assuming it's new as of the last few days) 16:45 magnuse hm, could be perhaps 16:45 jcamins A change added by QueryParser that triggers it? 16:44 magnuse also after applying the patch for 9256, in the hope that it would fix it 16:44 jcamins I ran into a problem that went away when I reran the installer. 16:43 jcamins Hm. 16:43 magnuse twice 16:43 magnuse yup 16:43 jcamins magnuse: did you re-run the installer? 16:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 16:43 * magnuse is seeing the symptoms of bug 9256 on a dev install now too... 16:42 magnuse gah! 16:40 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 16:40 magnuse @later tell dpavlin: looking for encoding problems? bug 9772 is weird 16:38 * jcamins isn't sure, then. 16:35 oleonard ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 49: Duplicate entry '999-a' for key 'PRIMARY' 16:33 jcamins You can load the SQL file with MySQL. 16:32 oleonard And if one wanted to use the updated version (clobbering any changes)? 16:31 jcamins Don't want to clobber anyone's changes. 16:31 jcamins New installation. 16:29 oleonard Yes, but how does it update my default framework? It doesn't trigger updatedatabase 16:28 jcamins oleonard: I thought it was a patch for the default framework. 16:27 oleonard jcamins: I should be able to import the updated file via the interface or through mysql? 16:26 jcamins I guess. 16:26 jcamins Confirm that recently-added tags show up. 16:25 jcamins Oh. 16:22 frido_s see you 16:22 oleonard bkriegel added an update 16:22 jcamins I suspect it's woefully out of date again. 16:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags 16:19 oleonard How is Bug 5858 to be tested? 16:15 reiveune bye 16:11 paul_p [off] /me hopes that Koha-community 2013 mover and shaker will result in less pain than the previous one. (not really afraid though) 16:10 cait [off]... :) 16:10 oleonard :) 16:10 cait has he sent a photo? 16:10 cait oh 16:09 oleonard [off] There were no takers 16:09 oleonard [off] cait: mib_vrwg6n wanted a new development but could only pay in kisses 16:08 cait [off] huh? 16:08 oleonard [off] Nobody here works for kisses? We're a cold-hearted bunch! 16:08 msales magnuse: we'll do that! :) thank you. 16:05 magnuse msales: probably 15:56 * jcamins did not realize that. 15:56 jcamins sophie_m: okay, so different problems. 15:55 msales jcamins and magnuse: thank you for your answers. Do you think that it is better to install the 3.8 version? 15:55 cait the whitespace one :) 15:55 sophie_m cait : which one ? 15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6030 critical, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Signed Off , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices 15:55 sophie_m jcamins: if you look at bug 6030, you will see that there are many bugs concerning genarating notices 15:54 cait I was wondering about that patch actually... *goes to take a look at it* 15:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Failed QA , Automatic carriage return in message_queue where content_type is html 15:53 sophie_m jcamins: the pb of carriage returns is dealt in Bug 9372 15:53 * oleonard demands that Myshkin stop hogging all of jcamins' time! 15:52 jcamins But that won't happen until sometime either much later today or tomorrow. 15:52 magnuse it's qa'ed now, just needs the attention of some rm or other... ;-) 15:51 * cait nods 15:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 15:51 magnuse msales, jcamins sounds like bug 9256 15:51 jcamins sophie_m: I just copied and pasted the instructions from the bug report. 15:50 wahanui i heard unimarc was http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation 15:50 jcamins UNIMARC. 15:50 jcamins cait: yes. 15:49 cait jcamins: are you talking about a package install with non-marc21? 15:49 jcamins (note: I'm working on other things and don't have a usable internet connection, so my troubleshooting is pretty much limited to asking questions that you've probably already considered) 15:49 jcamins msales: but no problems now when reindexing? 15:48 clrh oleonard: thanks 15:47 msales We set the environment variables this way:export KOHA_CONF =/etc/koha/sites/biblioteca/koha-conf.xml export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib 15:47 oleonard Sure 15:47 msales jcamins: It didn't work, we got the error message when searching for the authority record: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 338. 15:47 clrh May I let you closing it ? 15:46 clrh ah ha :) 15:46 oleonard clrh: I did not remember that 7464 was still open because of that issue 15:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9572 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Opac info tooltip from branches is not well positioned 15:46 oleonard clrh: That bug is fixed by Bug 9572 15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9726 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , XISBN service throttle not initialized 15:45 * magnuse claims bug 9726 for testing and possible signoff 15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Display information about library on OPAC detail 15:44 clrh oleonard: hello - I am doing some point on rebases and I would like to know if you plan to do something on bug 7264 15:39 tcohen "single" 15:39 tcohen testing right now 15:39 * jcamins doesn't remember what it's called. 15:39 jcamins But... probably. 15:39 tcohen (was called single, right?) 15:39 jcamins I don't believe the all-in-one-place install works at all. 15:38 tcohen also the all-in-one-place install? 15:37 jcamins Yes. 15:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9843 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OpenILS/QueryParser.pm not (always) installed when installing from tarball 15:37 jcamins bug 9843 15:33 tcohen jcamins, 9843 is for a standard install, right? 15:32 cait tcohen++ 15:26 msales jcamins: thank you! we will make the change you suggest. 15:26 jcamins There are a few out there in various places. 15:26 jcamins Or use a screen scraper that extracts MARC data. 15:26 jcamins mib_vrwg6n: that feature would be quite difficult to implement most likely. You should see if there's any way you can get Z39.50 access to the catalogs you're screen scraping 15:23 jcamins It should be pretty easy to change, but I don't know the exact commands off the top of my head. 15:23 jcamins msales: I think packages default to DOM for authorities. 15:22 mib_vrwg6n i just can give a kiss for this (((: 15:22 jcamins msales: oh! Of course... you should be using GRS-1 with authorities for UNIMARC. 15:21 msales here's the error: zebraidx(7930) [warn] /etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml: stylesheet authority-zebra indexdefs.xls not found in path /etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc: /etc/koha/zebradb/etc: /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/authorities:/etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/fr:/etc/koha/zebradb/xsl… 15:21 oleonard mib_vrwg6n: Then you'll have to write it or sponsor its development 15:21 mib_vrwg6n i need this func. 15:21 mib_vrwg6n i just want to copy plain text format marc format and paste it in textbox after koha will parse it and automaticly will fill cataloginig form 15:21 jcamins msales: you'll need to tell us what the error was. 15:21 msales We installed the koha-common with the Unimarc format, run the Portuguese installer (we previously installed the Portuguese language package), created and the tried to index an authority and a bibliographic record using the command: koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library and got an error. Can anyone help? 15:20 Herwig yay thats the one :) thx 15:20 wahanui somebody said schema was tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org 15:20 oleonard schema? 15:20 Herwig where do i find the koha databas structure i lost the link 15:19 Herwig Hey Koha 15:19 jcamins And think about using Z39.50 instead, since that's more likely to be what you want to do. 15:19 jcamins If you're talking about copying the binary MARC, just stick it in a file and import it. It's one extra step but in the end you get what you want. 15:18 oleonard mib_vrwg6n: No, one requires a MARC file, the other involves plain text 15:18 msales Hi, we are having problems with the zebra indexing 15:16 mib_vrwg6n i think importing and caopying marc record to a textbox are same things 15:16 * jcamins has terrible keylag and doesn't know what he's said until several seconds after he hits enter. 15:16 jcamins You can import but not copy-and-paste. 15:16 jcamins *no functionality... 15:15 jcamins Right. 15:15 jcamins mib_vrwg6n: yes and no. You can import MARC, but there's functionality to copy and paste non-standard MARC into the interface for cataloging. 15:15 mib_vrwg6n just mrc files? 15:15 oleonard mib_vrwg6n: You can import MARC files 15:14 mib_vrwg6n i mean is there a marc parser on koha? 15:14 mib_vrwg6n is it possible to copy marc record to a textbox and automaticly filling catalogging form 15:13 tcohen setting 15:13 tcohen the problem was the finesmode 15:12 tcohen its functional as expected 15:12 tcohen cait, got it 15:12 mib_vrwg6n hi alla 15:12 alohabot Hi mib_vrwg6n, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 15:12 maximep cait: ok, will try the patches for 8378 as soon as my fines are calculated on my dev... hopefully this hour -_- 15:11 cait that is like 3* your fine or so 15:10 cait and give an overdue fines cap instead 15:10 cait don#t give a suspension 15:10 tcohen http://snag.gy/yI92A.jpg 15:09 cait like tell it 1.50 every day (interval = 1) grace period 0 max cap 4.50 15:09 cait you need a fine and a fine interval 15:07 tcohen cait: how did those circulatio rules lookd to you? 15:04 magnuse cool 15:04 jcamins magnuse: should do, yes. 15:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9843 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OpenILS/QueryParser.pm not (always) installed when installing from tarball 15:04 magnuse jcamins: do you think bug 9843 fixes the packages too? 14:56 magnuse dpavlin++ 14:55 wahanui salut, francharb 14:55 francharb hi 14:51 jcamins But that's not really practical. 14:51 jcamins What we really need is a way for users to easily style fields however they want. 14:48 jcamins I like the class idea. 14:48 cait magnuse: maybe, I was hoping to get some more input 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Missing space between 100/700 $a and $c (MARC21/XSLT) 14:47 magnuse cait: should bug 9820 be "in discussion"? 14:47 jcamins The new updatedatabase code is too dangerous for 3.12 I think, but other than that anything that can be finished by the end of the week is fair game. 14:45 tcohen the fact that it says a rental charge is another bug i think, because I've not set rental charges 14:44 tcohen this are my circ rules http://snag.gy/yI92A.jpg 14:44 tcohen cait, i had the calculate and email the admin setting 14:41 jcamins gmcharlt: congratulations! 14:40 cait hat will get printed to the notice 14:40 cait and then there should be a fine on the bug with a F or FU type 14:40 cait and then you run the fines job 14:40 cait and then you make sure system preference finesmode is production (set to calculate) 14:40 cait you will have to set up circulation rules to charge fines 14:39 cait because it's an overdues notice :) 14:39 cait it will only print overdue fines 14:39 cait that is rental :) 14:39 tcohen 03/19/2013 Rental View item Saludos 5.00 5.00 Print 14:38 cait which code has the debt? when you look at the fines tab? 14:37 tcohen the UI says there is a 5.00 debt 14:37 tcohen i checked out with a due date two days ago 14:36 dpavlin is that item checkouted in last three days? 14:35 dpavlin tcohen: patch doesn't touch fine calculation, it just inserts calculated value in template 14:35 tcohen <item>"<<biblio.title>>" by <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>> Fine: <<items.fine>></item> 14:35 tcohen I edited the default ODUE notice, 14:34 cait tcohen: what was the syntax you used in the overdues template? 14:34 cait very cool :) 14:33 gmcharlt thanks! 14:33 cait gmcharlt++ too 14:33 cait maximep: feel free to give it a test drive 14:33 tcohen yes 14:32 cait created by the fnes cronjob? 14:32 tcohen " Patron has Outstanding fees & charges of 5.00." 14:32 cait is it an overdue fine? 14:32 cait bah. 14:32 cait do you have a fine on the patron account? 14:32 tcohen when the UI says $5.00 14:32 tcohen hmmm cait: Barcode: XXX Fine: $0.00 14:31 magnuse gmcharlt++ 14:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 14:28 maximep dpavlin++ for bug 8378 14:27 oleonard gmcharlt++ 14:27 oleonard http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013/03/people/movers-shakers-2013/galen-charlton-movers-shakers-2013-tech-leaders/ 14:16 matts you're right clrh 14:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8979 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "News" does not work with CCSR 14:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9832 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , QueryParser causes software error if koha-conf.xml has not been updated 14:16 jenkins_koha * Liz Rea: Bug 8979 - simple addition of news to CCSR theme 14:16 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9832: avert software error with QP enabled and misconfigured 14:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1084: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1084/ 14:09 Viktor cait - It did. And confirmed by suspicion :) 14:08 cait Viktor: no problem - hope I made sense - lots of things going on at the same time :) 14:08 Viktor cait Thanks! 14:08 cait I really need this problem resolved :) 14:07 Viktor Sorry about mixing two topics - self service with RFID and staff interface :) 14:07 cait tcohen: I will help you with configuration :) 14:07 cait in administration currencies :) 14:07 tcohen where are currencies set? 14:07 huginn 04Bug 9844: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a barcode queue to checkout / return 14:07 Viktor I made a reques by the way for a barcode queue (checkout / returns) in the staff interface. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9844 14:06 cait we just didn't find it working well at the circ desk 14:06 cait yep self check machines do 14:06 Viktor tcohen dpavlin cait - Yes that's what I suspected. But sometimes when using machines the machine itself has a graphical interface to explain these problems to the user. 14:05 cait and reacting instantly to any error messages or warnings 14:05 cait so that takes more time than doing it one by one 14:05 cait in the stack 14:05 cait it gets hard to find the book 14:05 cait but if you have one not for loan item in the stack 14:05 cait if everything is checked out -it's great 14:05 Viktor tcohen dpavlin - For manual checkout/returns indeed. 14:05 cait because they miss problems 14:04 cait Viktor: we found it's never a good idea 14:04 Viktor dpavlin Glad to hear! That how they are used here to :) What I wonder is how the system handles the fact that you can put a bunch of books on a RFID-based station at once. 14:03 tcohen i think Viktor might be suggesting that their librarians are faster at reading barcodes than the submission-then-re-render-chekin-page step 14:01 dpavlin we are using RFID as fancy replacement for barcodes and it works well for us with Koha 14:01 dpavlin Viktor: I don't quite understand what do you mean by "batch issuing" 14:01 tcohen leme see 13:58 cait it requires the overdues and fine cronjobs to be run, so it's probably not possible to test this on sandboxes :( 13:57 cait so it can go into qa 13:57 cait this is really a big bug for our libraries and I woud love to see that tested and hopefully signed off 13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore 13:57 cait bug 8378 13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , New area in subscriptions and new function when receiving 13:57 clrh matts: bug 7677 shouldnot be new I think 13:56 cait as you are mentining it... I really need someone to test someting :) 13:56 cait :) 13:55 clrh caitbug 9117 too thx ;) 13:55 reiveune ??? 13:55 cait reiveune++ :) 13:54 cait clrh: ah :) 13:54 cait oleonard: I don't know - haven't taken a look at it 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5635 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, stephane.delaune, Passed QA , bulkmarcimport new parameters & features 13:54 clrh bug 5635 \o/ 13:54 clrh Oo 13:54 cait clrh: what did I do? :) 13:54 huginn clrh: I suck 13:54 matts cait++ too 13:54 clrh @cait++ 13:53 clrh cait++ 13:42 Viktor Oh by the way - does anyone use Koha with RFID? At least here in Sweden libraries usually allow batch issuing with RFID. Does SIP2 take care of all that? 13:42 frido_s oleonard: I just rebased for testing 13:40 oleonard frido_s: Isn't it too late to add new features like 9163? jcamins? 13:40 oleonard cait: I assume that bug doesn't qualify for inclusion at this stage 13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9163 new feature, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Cataloguing validation workflow 13:38 cait bug 9163 13:38 magnuse Viktor: good idea. but we are really kind to n00bs, so don't be too afraid of doing things ;-) 13:35 Viktor magnuse: I'll add it. But as long as I feel like a n00b I'll keep asking here first so I dont RFC stuff that already in there ;) 13:35 frido_s I rebased 9163 for signed off, it is a P1 new feature 13:35 magnuse Viktor: and a link to an RFC on the wiki, if you have a lot to say about it :-) 13:34 Viktor I?d say that it would have to be coded so that no closing of the checkout session is possible when there are barcodes left to process. 13:34 magnuse Viktor: an enhancement request in bugzilla describing the problem and your suggestion for a solution would be a good start 13:33 Viktor Dyrcona :) Learning from others is great. Good to hear from someone that uses something like this. 13:32 Viktor Dyrcona: Sad to hear. But it gives me hope of being able to make something like this happen in a working way :) 13:32 Dyrcona Anyway, I'll let you discuss your feature, and maybe I'll learn how to fix ours. :) 13:32 Viktor Or could we just add some sort of "checkout in batch"? 13:32 Dyrcona Viktor: Not really, no. It turns out it was an experiment that found its way into the master repo before we had much in the way of rules about such things. 13:31 Viktor I figure you would have to be very clear visually with this sort of thing... 13:31 Viktor Dyrcona: Does the system show visually that there are barcodes not yet processed? 13:30 Dyrcona Viktor: It is worse when this "feature" is enabled. Mainly because staff don't really understand what it does. 13:30 Viktor oleonard :) 13:30 oleonard "staff can't be bothered to look at the screen" seems to be a common problem 13:29 Viktor Dyrcona - Sound like the same problem you get without that function too :) 13:29 Dyrcona Yeah, I'd expect the system to be slower than the staff/scanners. If it isn't, then it isn't doing much. 13:29 Dyrcona Viktor: The short of it is, the staff can't be bothered to pay attention to the screen, so they'll scan a bunch of things, and hand them to the patron, only to find out later that half the stuff didn't check out for some reason or another.\ 13:29 Viktor Since we will still have a lot of manual issuing I want to speed things up. Barcodes are lost when scanning to quick. 13:28 magnuse yeah, that is a weak point... 13:28 Viktor Dyrcona Interesting - do you have time to tell me more? 13:28 Viktor Some testing today on a 70Mbit+ fiber indicated that the system is slower than the staff/scanners. At least without Plack. 13:27 Dyrcona Viktor: We have not quite that in Evergreen (by accident) and it causes all kinds of problems for staff. 13:27 Viktor I would absolutly love a AJAX solution where you can scan as fast as you want to a (visible) box where the system fetches barcodes to process. 13:26 Viktor I think I just hit a RFC - is it possible to buffer/queue barcodes when issuing loans/returning? I think not and that the RFC :) 13:14 tcohen jcamins, have you made up your mind on what won't get into 3.12? 13:13 * Viktor waves back to magnuse from Hylte 13:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , New patron permissions 13:12 matts Bug 7673 has been signed-off... now waiting for QA... 13:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8979' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f3cf47b829f0adfddf03066c11a9749ac4087e6> / Bug 8979 - simple addition of news to CCSR theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c16a80f51fd26644c285653b7f4ad8a3555ab54e> / Merge branch 'bug_9832' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84d8cce883afa 13:11 tcohen i'll have to assist our librarians the rest of the week didn't have my attention for a while! 13:11 * magnuse waves to Viktor 13:10 tcohen cait, i've had my own hackfest now that u mention 13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery 13:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin 13:10 oleonard I'll bet you hackfest folks would like to sign off on Bug 8278 and Bug 9773! 13:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1084 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:07 reiveune :) 13:05 * magnuse made the right choice 13:05 tcohen not exactly but the weather conditions match 13:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (1:50 PM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 13:05 magnuse @wunder boo 13:05 cait you have your own personal hackfest? :) 13:05 cait heh 13:04 tcohen I feel like I was in marseille 13:04 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (9:00 AM ART on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 13:04 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:02 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (1:30 PM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 13:02 cait @wunder marseille 13:02 jcamins cait: I'm around for a few minutes. 13:02 magnuse cait: hehe 13:00 cait that noone would see it 13:00 cait but I did use the hashtag yesterday... until I remembered 13:00 cait I have a nonpublic account :( 13:00 clrh feeling alone on #hfk13 hashtag on twitter, evrybody works ;) 12:59 jcamins oleonard: hehe. 12:59 magnuse \o/ 12:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 12:59 cait working on bug 9256 now 12:59 * cait waves to oleonard 12:59 * oleonard can never remember how to trigger a certain tab to show 12:58 oleonard I'll be glad to see 3.8.x go, I'm tired of using the wayback machine to find the documentation on the old tabs plugin 12:57 oleonard Hi cait 12:46 jcamins When I stuck a 1 in, that fixed it. 12:46 jcamins tcohen: I created a news item, but I didn't put anything in the box for position. 12:42 tcohen you create the message 12:42 jcamins You have to put something into the position box. 12:42 jcamins Ah. 12:42 jcamins How does one get news to show up on the OPAC? 12:34 bag :) 12:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add holds and funds to items already received in parcel.pl 12:34 bag anybody looking to sign off on something? if so bug 8037 12:33 oleonard Oh, I left JS disabled last night :P 12:31 * oleonard sees nothing under 'bug statuses' 12:31 * oleonard wonders what's up with the dashboard 12:29 oleonard Hi #koha 12:27 jcamins Loudly. 12:27 jcamins Myshkin says hi. 12:27 clrh \o/ 12:27 jcamins Fortunately QP drivers are very easy. :) 12:27 clrh I must have a look >< 12:26 clrh qp ? query parser yep 12:26 jcamins There also needs to be a QP driver for Solr. 12:26 clrh okay 12:25 jcamins I didn't estimate "this is how much it would take to finish the work," I estimated "this is how much I would have to be paid in order to volunteer my time to do this important project." 12:25 clrh and today if you have this proce for "d" only, would it be sufficent to have solr / zebra switch "working" ? 12:25 clrh :) 12:25 jcamins The estimate *is* low. 12:24 clrh jcamins: yep 12:24 clrh actually I found your "estimation effort" really few compared to the work I see in my mind (cleaning existing code and moving in right place) 12:24 jcamins As you know, without refactoring our existing search code we'll never be able to use a consistent interface to Solr/Zebra. 12:23 clrh http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_%26_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC#.28d.29_Adjust_the_query_parser_to_use_Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra I must read this I think ;) 12:23 jcamins Mostly it's about refactoring C4::Search. 12:23 clrh what is really behind "1(d). Implement Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra" http://www.cpbibliography.com/services/koha/searchrewrite.html 12:22 clrh I got a question about your work: 12:21 jcamins Well, I saw the e-mail. 12:21 jcamins I saw. :) 12:21 clrh this morning I presented solr integration to french librarians 12:21 clrh jcamins: I sent a mail to koha-devel about doc refactoring 12:00 jcamins clrh: I'm around for a bit now. 10:30 magnuse clrh++ 10:29 magnuse looks good! 10:29 cait magnuse: (11:19:58) clrh: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Search_Engine >> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Solr/Lucene and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Zebra 10:28 clrh thanks cait 10:28 clrh I hope I won't break to much habits >< 10:24 cait clrh: looks logical to me 10:22 clrh http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Search_Engine >> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Solr/Lucene and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Zebra 10:22 clrh I did a big wiki refactoring categories in "search" part.. would like feedbacks before sending to koha-devel list 10:21 clrh jcamins: hello awaken ?* 10:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use) 10:15 paul_p cait QAing bug 8190 10:11 cait jcamins: ping me when you are around later? 10:10 cait thx 10:08 paul_p cait done 10:08 cait i will look at it a little later 10:07 cait paul_p: oh ok, can you put me in as qa contact maybe? 10:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9358 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15 10:07 paul_p cait I won't QA bug 9358 because it's MARC21 specific and can't say if it's valid or not 09:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9745 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Don't nuke translated permissions with changes introduced in bug 9382 09:58 * magnuse takes a shot at Bug 9745 09:54 * magnuse shifts into signing off-mode and hopes to remain there for the rest of the day 09:47 bag it's just not working for me 09:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5334 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , add explicit foreign key constraints 09:47 bag Joubu: bug 5334 already pushed to master so I have that h2 > Acquisitions detail < already in the code 09:43 mtj 1 tic…. i'll PM you some info 09:43 Joubu mtj: yep, but I don't know if I have rights for pushing on git.kc.org 09:42 mtj are you ok to push to git.kc.org? and i will sync the github repo from the kc.org repo… 09:41 Joubu hello mtj 09:40 mtj heya Joubu :) 09:40 mtj so, a bad repo name choice by me :/ 09:40 Joubu mtj: yes you are right 09:39 mtj also, the repo name has been renamed too. as chris.c created an existing koha-qa-tools repo, already 09:36 mtj (both repos are currently synced/identical, fyi) 09:34 mtj so, i am suggesting that this would be the offical repo - http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=qa-test-tools.git 09:33 mtj … and the github repo as a synced mirror only 09:32 mtj basically, the idea was to have the 'offical' repo for the qa-tools at git.kc.org 09:31 mtj i have a suggestion regarding the koha qa-tools 09:29 mtj Joubu, about? 09:29 mtj hi peeps, bonjour Marseille :) 09:23 magnuse clrh: yeah, unless you want to wait and ask gmcharlt if he could install the extension 09:18 clrh yup so manual move =D 09:18 magnuse clrh: don't think so... 09:16 clrh http://www.tipsandtricks-hq.com/how-to-use-category-and-rename-a-category-in-mediawiki-547 09:16 clrh does the koha-comunity have the "replace text" extension ? just wanted to rename a category (without editing all pages ;)) 09:15 clrh o/ 09:13 wizzyrea kia ora magnuse! 09:12 magnuse kia ora wizzyrea 09:10 cait hi wizzyrea :) 09:09 wizzyrea good morning :) 09:09 * wizzyrea waves to europe 09:04 alex_a_ khall: cool ! thx 09:01 khall alex_a_: I should be able to get all those rebased today. Thanks for the heads up! 08:51 * cait waves too 08:50 * magnuse waves from marseille 08:43 cait magnus_here++ :) 08:41 christophe_c magnus_away:++ 08:41 alex_a_ But i think there is not lot of work to get it works 08:40 alex_a_ khall: these 3 patches does not apply 08:39 khall alex_a_: yes, that is correct 08:36 alex_a_ khall: Are you the author of these 3 patches: 8037, 8352 and 8956 ? 08:20 christophe_c hello #koha 08:16 frido_s good morning all 08:15 gaetan_B hello 08:09 cait bonjour rangi 08:08 rangi hi bag, Joubu cait and reiveune 08:08 reiveune hello 08:06 Joubu hi #koha 08:04 bag good morning 08:02 drojf you have a bug reporting librarian force? :) 08:01 paul_p would be cool, but I wouldn't bet, as librarians are feeding the list at the same time... 08:00 rangi paul_p: get below 100 today? :) 08:00 drojf hi rangi, paul_p and khall 07:59 rangi hi khall 07:59 paul_p Hackfest day 2 starting 07:59 khall morning all! 07:59 paul_p good morning #koha. 07:59 rangi hi paul_p and drojf 07:58 drojf good morning #koha 07:18 dcook Night #koha. Hope everyone has fun at the Marseille hackfest! 07:12 dcook You win :p 07:12 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 6.0°C (7:30 AM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 07:12 cait @wunder Marseille 07:11 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (5:30 PM EST on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 07:11 dcook @wunder Sydney, Australia 07:04 dcook hey cait :) 04:05 eythian http://instacod.es/66133 02:17 dcook Now I just want to output a multidimensional array from a resursive function :@ 02:16 dcook I had a link loop earlier as well. I had a timeout pre-set...for 6 minutes. 02:16 * druthb watches Pootle updating 3.8... 02:14 jcamins Ooh... I now have a link loop. I wonder whether the display will recurse infinitely before exploding. 01:58 dcook Always nice when it's that easy 01:57 jcamins Oh, that's because I don't have links enabled. 01:57 dcook :( 01:56 jcamins Humbug. 01:56 jcamins ... and it's not putting in links. 01:55 dcook lol 01:55 * jcamins is mostly just avoiding hitting enter now. 01:54 dcook \o/ 01:54 jcamins I don't think so... 01:53 dcook Still having an issue with it? 01:48 jcamins Yeah. 01:47 dcook Are you using the .submit jquery handler? 01:47 dcook But that's just that was just the one script doing a document.form.submit() before the prevention script could work 01:46 jcamins Yeah, I think that must be the problem. 01:46 dcook The issue I had before was with competing Javascript 01:46 jcamins I just moved all my handlers into separate functions and it seems to be working better. 01:45 jcamins Yeah. 01:44 dcook Bizarre indeed 01:44 dcook So when you click on the button it prevents the submit but if you hit enter it still submits 01:41 jcamins And I'm using 'return false' at the end of the function. 01:41 dcook Hmm 01:41 jcamins It seems to be specific to when I hit enter. 01:40 dcook Here's what happened to me 01:40 dcook How do your forms submit and how are you preventing them from submitting? 01:36 * dcook tries to remember the details 01:36 dcook I ran into a problem that sounds the same but it might not be 01:36 dcook Hmm 01:36 jcamins Other project. 01:36 dcook Koha or other project? 01:36 dcook Which forms? 01:35 jcamins My forms randomly submit despite a 'return false' in the handler. 01:33 jcamins You know, I'm starting to suspect that Chrome's handling of submit events is buggy. 01:15 wizzyrea later! 01:15 cjh see ya! 01:15 oleonard See y'all in 11 hours 01:15 wizzyrea yes you should go to bed :) 01:15 * oleonard had better split 01:15 cjh heh yeah 01:15 wizzyrea there were about a zillion of them 01:14 cjh wizzyrea: the ones I noticed were quite old, and most had been closed at some point (without a matching 'resolved' comment) 01:14 wizzyrea I could look again 01:14 wizzyrea non specific, but fixes recently pushed. 01:14 wizzyrea the ones I saw were generalised "keyboard accessibility of button drop downs" 01:14 cjh I think holding on to ie7 support is useful for a while still. 01:13 oleonard I'm not sure if we're ready to ditch IE7 support, which Bootstrap 3 will do. 01:13 wizzyrea yea, afaict it should be going in there. we'll see. 01:13 oleonard So we need to keep up with upgrades. I hope the fix goes into the 2.x branch 01:13 cjh wizzyrea: was there a bug that mentioned them knowing it was only in chrome (webkit I guess) and not FF? 01:13 wizzyrea ultimately I think it's ok. 01:13 wizzyrea and they know about it 01:13 wizzyrea and it looks like it's an upstream bug 01:12 oleonard Oh really? That's discouraging. 01:12 cjh oleonard: however it was found that it only appears in chrome / chromium. 01:12 cjh oleonard: namely that you couldnt use the keyboard to navigate through the button group drop down. 01:12 cjh oleonard: the drop downs within a button group behaved differently from the drop down menus within a navbar 01:11 oleonard Still waiting to hear back. 01:11 druthb As soon as I petted him, he turned around and stalked off again. 01:11 oleonard wizzyrea I got an email from Corey today saying there were some issues with the new Bootstrap stuff, but without providing details 01:11 druthb Oh, I caught him in my bed for a while last night, pretending to ignore me while wanting to give me his lovey head butts. 01:11 * wizzyrea sends pixel lovey head butts 01:10 wizzyrea hm 01:10 druthb He is greatly pissed, yes. 01:10 wizzyrea ! is he still mad at you? 01:09 * druthb waves an angry fuzzy cat at wizzyrea 01:09 * druthb chuckles. 01:07 * wizzyrea tells you all the things 01:07 rangi heh 01:06 oleonard I probably have two more minutes before my wife tells me to get the hell off the computer and go to sleep 01:06 * oleonard waves 01:05 wizzyrea hey, it's an oleonard! 00:40 rangi yep 00:40 oleonard Yeah, the best you could hope for would be checking for no commit message at all (which we still get) 00:38 rangi hmm would be kinda tricky to write 00:37 oleonard I want a script that checks every 'needs signoff' bug for a test plan and automatically fails it if it has none. 00:32 oleonard What kind of stuff will you be working on? 00:31 druthb (one told me later, that he felt out-classed by *me*. The Usual Problem.) 00:30 druthb There were six new-hires today, and I felt totally out-classed by the brains in the room. 00:30 oleonard Awesome 00:30 druthb It went *very* well. I'm gonna love it. 00:29 oleonard Congratulations. I hope it went well 00:27 druthb Moved, and today was my first day on the new gig 00:27 oleonard Are you moved? 00:27 druthb Hi, oleonard! 00:27 oleonard Hi druthb 00:25 oleonard ..so that users are not free-typing things which are in the database, like csv profile names 00:24 oleonard We really need a standardized way of hooking system preference choices into database columns 00:20 rangi if you get no results you can create a page 00:20 rangi do a search 00:20 tcohen aoh, my profile perhaps? 00:20 tcohen and didn't find where to point it from 00:19 tcohen i thought of it, but I want to start an RFC 00:19 oleonard One way is to link to it from an existing page 00:18 tcohen silly question, how do I create a new page on our wiki? 00:17 tcohen which requires quite more code changes, and found that bug when starting to work on it 00:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports 00:17 tcohen yes, its part of my preparation for bug 9634 00:16 jcamins It's a good idea, though. 00:15 jcamins oleonard: I have not. 00:15 dcook You're welcome, tcohen. I noticed that bgkriegel signed off on it. Looks useful :) 00:15 oleonard jcamins, I wonder if you've looked at the 'needs signoff' list to see what things would not make it into 3.12 even if they were signed off now? 00:13 tcohen thanks for testing, I fixed the problem you found and fredericd's comment and bgkriegel signed it 00:11 dcook Last month? Yup 00:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports 00:10 tcohen hi dcook, r u the one that commented on bug 9659? 00:08 dcook hey ya oleonard 00:07 * jcamins waves 00:05 oleonard Hi #koha