Time  Nick           Message
00:05 oleonard       Hi #koha
00:07 * jcamins      waves
00:08 dcook          hey ya oleonard
00:10 tcohen         hi dcook, r u the one that commented on bug 9659?
00:10 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports
00:11 dcook          Last month? Yup
00:13 tcohen         thanks for testing, I fixed the problem you found and fredericd's comment and bgkriegel signed it
00:15 oleonard       jcamins, I wonder if you've looked at the 'needs signoff' list to see what things would not make it into 3.12 even if they were signed off now?
00:15 dcook          You're welcome, tcohen. I noticed that bgkriegel signed off on it. Looks useful :)
00:15 jcamins        oleonard: I have not.
00:16 jcamins        It's a good idea, though.
00:17 tcohen         yes, its part of my preparation for bug 9634
00:17 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports
00:17 tcohen         which requires quite more code changes, and found that bug when starting to work on it
00:18 tcohen         silly question, how do I create a new page on our wiki?
00:19 oleonard       One way is to link to it from an existing page
00:19 tcohen         i thought of it, but I want to start an RFC
00:20 tcohen         and didn't find where to point it from
00:20 tcohen         aoh, my profile perhaps?
00:20 rangi          do a search
00:20 rangi          if you get no results you can create a page
00:24 oleonard       We really need a standardized way of hooking system preference choices into database columns
00:25 oleonard       ..so that users are not free-typing things which are in the database, like csv profile names
00:27 oleonard       Hi druthb
00:27 druthb         Hi, oleonard!
00:27 oleonard       Are you moved?
00:27 druthb         Moved, and today was my first day on the new gig
00:29 oleonard       Congratulations. I hope it went well
00:30 druthb         It went *very* well.  I'm gonna love it.
00:30 oleonard       Awesome
00:30 druthb         There were six new-hires today, and I felt totally out-classed by the brains in the room.
00:31 druthb         (one told me later, that he felt out-classed by *me*.  The Usual Problem.)
00:32 oleonard       What kind of stuff will you be working on?
00:37 oleonard       I want a script that checks every 'needs signoff' bug for a test plan and automatically fails it if it has none.
00:38 rangi          hmm would be kinda tricky to write
00:40 oleonard       Yeah, the best you could hope for would be checking for no commit message at all (which we still get)
00:40 rangi          yep
01:05 wizzyrea       hey, it's an oleonard!
01:06 * oleonard     waves
01:06 oleonard       I probably have two more minutes before my wife tells me to get the hell off the computer and go to sleep
01:07 rangi          heh
01:07 * wizzyrea     tells you all the things
01:09 * druthb       chuckles.
01:09 * druthb       waves an angry fuzzy cat at wizzyrea
01:10 wizzyrea       ! is he still mad at you?
01:10 druthb         He is greatly pissed, yes.
01:10 wizzyrea       hm
01:11 * wizzyrea     sends pixel lovey head butts
01:11 druthb         Oh, I caught him in my bed for a while last night, pretending to ignore me while wanting to give me his lovey head butts.
01:11 oleonard       wizzyrea I got an email from Corey today saying there were some issues with the new Bootstrap stuff, but without providing details
01:11 druthb         As soon as I petted him, he turned around and stalked off again.
01:11 oleonard       Still waiting to hear back.
01:12 cjh            oleonard: the drop downs within a button group behaved differently from the drop down menus within a navbar
01:12 cjh            oleonard: namely that you couldnt use the keyboard to navigate through the button group drop down.
01:12 cjh            oleonard: however it was found that it only appears in chrome / chromium.
01:12 oleonard       Oh really? That's discouraging.
01:13 wizzyrea       and it looks like it's an upstream bug
01:13 wizzyrea       and they know about it
01:13 wizzyrea       ultimately I think it's ok.
01:13 cjh            wizzyrea: was there a bug that mentioned them knowing it was only in chrome (webkit I guess) and not FF?
01:13 oleonard       So we need to keep up with upgrades. I hope the fix goes into the 2.x branch
01:13 wizzyrea       yea, afaict it should be going in there. we'll see.
01:13 oleonard       I'm not sure if we're ready to ditch IE7 support, which Bootstrap 3 will do.
01:14 cjh            I think holding on to ie7 support is useful for a while still.
01:14 wizzyrea       the ones I saw were generalised "keyboard accessibility of button drop downs"
01:14 wizzyrea       non specific, but fixes recently pushed.
01:14 wizzyrea       I could look again
01:14 cjh            wizzyrea: the ones I noticed were quite old, and most had been closed at some point (without a matching 'resolved' comment)
01:15 wizzyrea       there were about a zillion of them
01:15 cjh            heh yeah
01:15 * oleonard     had better split
01:15 wizzyrea       yes you should go to bed :)
01:15 oleonard       See y'all in 11 hours
01:15 cjh            see ya!
01:15 wizzyrea       later!
01:33 jcamins        You know, I'm starting to suspect that Chrome's handling of submit events is buggy.
01:35 jcamins        My forms randomly submit despite a 'return false' in the handler.
01:36 dcook          Which forms?
01:36 dcook          Koha or other project?
01:36 jcamins        Other project.
01:36 dcook          Hmm
01:36 dcook          I ran into a problem that sounds the same but it might not be
01:36 * dcook        tries to remember the details
01:40 dcook          How do your forms submit and how are you preventing them from submitting?
01:40 dcook          Here's what happened to me
01:41 jcamins        It seems to be specific to when I hit enter.
01:41 dcook          Hmm
01:41 jcamins        And I'm using 'return false' at the end of the function.
01:44 dcook          So when you click on the button it prevents the submit but if you hit enter it still submits
01:44 dcook          Bizarre indeed
01:45 jcamins        Yeah.
01:46 jcamins        I just moved all my handlers into separate functions and it seems to be working better.
01:46 dcook          The issue I had before was with competing Javascript
01:46 jcamins        Yeah, I think that must be the problem.
01:47 dcook          But that's just that was just the one script doing a document.form.submit() before the prevention script could work
01:47 dcook          Are you using the .submit jquery handler?
01:48 jcamins        Yeah.
01:53 dcook          Still having an issue with it?
01:54 jcamins        I don't think so...
01:54 dcook          \o/
01:55 * jcamins      is mostly just avoiding hitting enter now.
01:55 dcook          lol
01:56 jcamins        ... and it's not putting in links.
01:56 jcamins        Humbug.
01:57 dcook          :(
01:57 jcamins        Oh, that's because I don't have links enabled.
01:58 dcook          Always nice when it's that easy
02:14 jcamins        Ooh... I now have a link loop. I wonder whether the display will recurse infinitely before exploding.
02:16 * druthb       watches Pootle updating 3.8...
02:16 dcook          I had a link loop earlier as well. I had a timeout pre-set...for 6 minutes.
02:17 dcook          Now I just want to output a multidimensional array from a resursive function :@
04:05 eythian        http://instacod.es/66133
07:04 dcook          hey cait :)
07:11 dcook          @wunder Sydney, Australia
07:11 huginn         dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (5:30 PM EST on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
07:12 cait           @wunder Marseille
07:12 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 6.0°C (7:30 AM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
07:12 dcook          You win :p
07:18 dcook          Night #koha. Hope everyone has fun at the Marseille hackfest!
07:58 drojf          good morning #koha
07:59 rangi          hi paul_p and drojf
07:59 paul_p         good morning #koha.
07:59 khall          morning all!
07:59 paul_p         Hackfest day 2 starting
07:59 rangi          hi khall
08:00 drojf          hi rangi, paul_p and khall
08:00 rangi          paul_p: get below 100 today? :)
08:01 paul_p         would be cool, but I wouldn't bet, as librarians are feeding the list at the same time...
08:02 drojf          you have a bug reporting librarian force? :)
08:04 bag            good morning
08:06 Joubu          hi #koha
08:08 reiveune       hello
08:08 rangi          hi bag, Joubu cait and reiveune
08:09 cait           bonjour rangi
08:15 gaetan_B       hello
08:16 frido_s        good morning all
08:20 christophe_c   hello #koha
08:36 alex_a_        khall: Are you the author of these 3 patches: 8037, 8352 and 8956 ?
08:39 khall          alex_a_: yes, that is correct
08:40 alex_a_        khall: these 3 patches does not apply
08:41 alex_a_        But i think there is not lot of work to get it works
08:41 christophe_c   magnus_away:++
08:43 cait           magnus_here++ :)
08:50 * magnuse      waves from marseille
08:51 * cait         waves too
09:01 khall          alex_a_: I should be able to get all those rebased today. Thanks for the heads up!
09:04 alex_a_        khall: cool ! thx
09:09 * wizzyrea     waves to europe
09:09 wizzyrea       good morning :)
09:10 cait           hi wizzyrea :)
09:12 magnuse        kia ora wizzyrea
09:13 wizzyrea       kia ora magnuse!
09:15 clrh           o/
09:16 clrh           does the koha-comunity have the "replace text" extension ? just wanted to rename a category (without editing all pages ;))
09:16 clrh           http://www.tipsandtricks-hq.com/how-to-use-category-and-rename-a-category-in-mediawiki-547
09:18 magnuse        clrh: don't think so...
09:18 clrh           yup so manual move =D
09:23 magnuse        clrh: yeah, unless you want to wait and ask gmcharlt if he could install the extension
09:29 mtj            hi peeps, bonjour Marseille :)
09:29 mtj            Joubu, about?
09:31 mtj            i have a suggestion regarding the koha qa-tools
09:32 mtj            basically, the idea was to have the 'offical' repo for the qa-tools at git.kc.org
09:33 mtj            … and the github repo as a synced mirror only
09:34 mtj            so, i am suggesting that this would be the offical repo - http://git.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=qa-test-tools.git
09:36 mtj            (both repos are currently synced/identical, fyi)
09:39 mtj            also, the repo name has been renamed too. as chris.c created an existing koha-qa-tools repo, already
09:40 Joubu          mtj: yes you are right
09:40 mtj            so, a bad repo name choice by me :/
09:40 mtj            heya Joubu  :)
09:41 Joubu          hello mtj
09:42 mtj            are you ok to push to git.kc.org? and i will sync the github repo from the kc.org repo…
09:43 Joubu          mtj: yep, but I don't know if I have rights for pushing on git.kc.org
09:43 mtj            1 tic….  i'll PM you some info
09:47 bag            Joubu: bug 5334 already pushed to master so I have that h2 > Acquisitions detail < already in the code
09:47 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5334 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , add explicit foreign key constraints
09:47 bag            it's just not working for me
09:54 * magnuse      shifts into signing off-mode and hopes to remain there for the rest of the day
09:58 * magnuse      takes a shot at Bug 9745
09:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9745 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Don't nuke translated permissions with changes introduced in bug 9382
10:07 paul_p         cait I won't QA bug 9358 because it's MARC21 specific and can't say if it's valid or not
10:07 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9358 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Fixed field plugins for MARC21 should be updated for MARC21 update #15
10:07 cait           paul_p: oh ok, can you put me in as qa contact maybe?
10:08 cait           i will look at it a little later
10:08 paul_p         cait done
10:10 cait           thx
10:11 cait           jcamins: ping me when you are around later?
10:15 paul_p         cait QAing bug 8190
10:15 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8190 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a logging module to Koha, that can report log message to staff interface (for developer use)
10:21 clrh           jcamins: hello awaken ?*
10:22 clrh           I did a big wiki refactoring categories in "search" part.. would like feedbacks before sending to koha-devel list
10:22 clrh           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Search_Engine >> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Solr/Lucene and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Zebra
10:24 cait           clrh: looks logical to me
10:28 clrh           I hope I won't break to much habits ><
10:28 clrh           thanks cait
10:29 cait           magnuse: (11:19:58) clrh: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Search_Engine >> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Solr/Lucene and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Zebra
10:29 magnuse        looks good!
10:30 magnuse        clrh++
12:00 jcamins        clrh: I'm around for a bit now.
12:21 clrh           jcamins: I sent a mail to koha-devel about doc refactoring
12:21 clrh           this morning I presented solr integration to french librarians
12:21 jcamins        I saw. :)
12:21 jcamins        Well, I saw the e-mail.
12:22 clrh           I got a question about your work:
12:23 clrh           what is really behind "1(d). Implement Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra" http://www.cpbibliography.com/services/koha/searchrewrite.html
12:23 jcamins        Mostly it's about refactoring C4::Search.
12:23 clrh           http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/C_%26_P_Search_Rewrite_RFC#.28d.29_Adjust_the_query_parser_to_use_Koha::SearchEngine::Zebra I must read this I think ;)
12:24 jcamins        As you know, without refactoring our existing search code we'll never be able to use a consistent interface to Solr/Zebra.
12:24 clrh           actually I found your "estimation effort" really few compared to the work I see in my mind (cleaning existing code and moving in right place)
12:24 clrh           jcamins: yep
12:25 jcamins        The estimate *is* low.
12:25 clrh           :)
12:25 clrh           and today if you have this proce for "d" only, would it be sufficent to have solr / zebra switch "working" ?
12:25 jcamins        I didn't estimate "this is how much it would take to finish the work," I estimated "this is how much I would have to be paid in order to volunteer my time to do this important project."
12:26 clrh           okay
12:26 jcamins        There also needs to be a QP driver for Solr.
12:26 clrh           qp ? query parser yep
12:27 clrh           I must have a look ><
12:27 jcamins        Fortunately QP drivers are very easy. :)
12:27 clrh           \o/
12:27 jcamins        Myshkin says hi.
12:27 jcamins        Loudly.
12:29 oleonard       Hi #koha
12:31 * oleonard     wonders what's up with the dashboard
12:31 * oleonard     sees nothing under 'bug statuses'
12:33 oleonard       Oh, I left JS disabled last night :P
12:34 bag            anybody looking to sign off on something?  if so bug 8037
12:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add holds and funds to items already received in parcel.pl
12:34 bag            :)
12:42 jcamins        How does one get news to show up on the OPAC?
12:42 jcamins        Ah.
12:42 jcamins        You have to put something into the position box.
12:42 tcohen         you create the message
12:46 jcamins        tcohen: I created a news item, but I didn't put anything in the box for position.
12:46 jcamins        When I stuck a 1 in, that fixed it.
12:57 oleonard       Hi cait
12:58 oleonard       I'll be glad to see 3.8.x go, I'm tired of using the wayback machine to find the documentation on the old tabs plugin
12:59 * oleonard     can never remember how to trigger a certain tab to show
12:59 * cait         waves to oleonard
12:59 cait           working on bug 9256 now
12:59 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
12:59 magnuse        \o/
12:59 jcamins        oleonard: hehe.
13:00 clrh           feeling alone on #hfk13 hashtag on twitter, evrybody works ;)
13:00 cait           I have a nonpublic account :(
13:00 cait           but I did use the hashtag yesterday... until I remembered
13:00 cait           that noone would see it
13:02 magnuse        cait: hehe
13:02 jcamins        cait: I'm around for a few minutes.
13:02 cait           @wunder marseille
13:02 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 12.0°C (1:30 PM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
13:04 tcohen         @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:04 huginn         tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (9:00 AM ART on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
13:04 tcohen         I feel like I was in marseille
13:05 cait           heh
13:05 cait           you have your own personal hackfest? :)
13:05 magnuse        @wunder boo
13:05 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (1:50 PM CET on March 19, 2013). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -17.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
13:05 tcohen         not exactly but the weather conditions match
13:05 * magnuse      made the right choice
13:07 reiveune       :)
13:08 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1084 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:10 oleonard       I'll bet you hackfest folks would like to sign off on Bug 8278 and Bug 9773!
13:10 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
13:10 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery
13:10 tcohen         cait, i've had my own hackfest now that u mention
13:11 * magnuse      waves to Viktor
13:11 tcohen         i'll have to assist our librarians the rest of the week didn't have my attention for a while!
13:11 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8979' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f3cf47b829f0adfddf03066c11a9749ac4087e6> / Bug 8979 - simple addition of news to CCSR theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c16a80f51fd26644c285653b7f4ad8a3555ab54e> / Merge branch 'bug_9832' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=84d8cce883afa
13:12 matts          Bug 7673 has been signed-off... now waiting for QA...
13:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , New patron permissions
13:13 * Viktor       waves back to magnuse from Hylte
13:14 tcohen         jcamins, have you made up your mind on what won't get into 3.12?
13:26 Viktor         I think I just hit a RFC - is it possible to buffer/queue barcodes when issuing loans/returning? I think not and that the RFC :)
13:27 Viktor         I would absolutly love a AJAX solution where you can scan as fast as you want to a (visible) box where the system fetches barcodes to process.
13:27 Dyrcona        Viktor: We have not quite that in Evergreen (by accident) and it causes all kinds of problems for staff.
13:28 Viktor         Some testing today on a 70Mbit+ fiber indicated that the system is slower than the staff/scanners. At least without Plack.
13:28 Viktor         Dyrcona Interesting - do you have time to tell me more?
13:28 magnuse        yeah, that is a weak point...
13:29 Viktor         Since we will still have a lot of manual issuing I want to speed things up. Barcodes are lost when scanning to quick.
13:29 Dyrcona        Viktor: The short of it is, the staff can't be bothered to pay attention to the screen, so they'll scan a bunch of things, and hand them to the patron, only to find out later that half the stuff didn't check out for some reason or another.\
13:29 Dyrcona        Yeah, I'd expect the system to be slower than the staff/scanners. If it isn't, then it isn't doing much.
13:29 Viktor         Dyrcona - Sound like the same problem you get without that function too :)
13:30 oleonard       "staff can't be bothered to look at the screen" seems to be a common problem
13:30 Viktor         oleonard :)
13:30 Dyrcona        Viktor: It is worse when this "feature" is enabled. Mainly because staff don't really understand what it does.
13:31 Viktor         Dyrcona: Does the system show visually that there are barcodes not yet processed?
13:31 Viktor         I figure you would have to be very clear visually with this sort of thing...
13:32 Dyrcona        Viktor: Not really, no. It turns out it was an experiment that found its way into the master repo before we had much in the way of rules about such things.
13:32 Viktor         Or could we just add some sort of "checkout in batch"?
13:32 Dyrcona        Anyway, I'll let you discuss your feature, and maybe I'll learn how to fix ours. :)
13:32 Viktor         Dyrcona: Sad to hear. But it gives me hope of being able to make something like this happen in a working way :)
13:33 Viktor         Dyrcona :) Learning from others is great. Good to hear from someone that uses something like this.
13:34 magnuse        Viktor: an enhancement request in bugzilla describing the problem and your suggestion for a solution would be a good start
13:34 Viktor         I?d say that it would have to be coded so that no closing of the checkout session is possible when there are barcodes left to process.
13:35 magnuse        Viktor: and a link to an RFC on the wiki, if you have a lot to say about it :-)
13:35 frido_s        I rebased 9163 for signed off, it is a P1 new feature
13:35 Viktor         magnuse: I'll add it. But as long as I feel like a n00b I'll keep asking here first so I dont RFC stuff that already in there ;)
13:38 magnuse        Viktor: good idea. but we are really kind to n00bs, so don't be too afraid of doing things ;-)
13:38 cait           bug 9163
13:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9163 new feature, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Cataloguing validation workflow
13:40 oleonard       cait: I assume that bug doesn't qualify for inclusion at this stage
13:40 oleonard       frido_s: Isn't it too late to add new features like 9163? jcamins?
13:42 frido_s        oleonard: I just rebased for testing
13:42 Viktor         Oh by the way - does anyone use Koha with RFID? At least here in Sweden libraries usually allow batch issuing with RFID. Does SIP2 take care of all that?
13:53 clrh           cait++
13:54 clrh           @cait++
13:54 matts          cait++ too
13:54 huginn         clrh: I suck
13:54 cait           clrh: what did I do? :)
13:54 clrh           Oo
13:54 clrh           bug 5635 \o/
13:54 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5635 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, stephane.delaune, Passed QA , bulkmarcimport new parameters & features
13:54 cait           oleonard: I don't know - haven't taken a look at it
13:54 cait           clrh: ah :)
13:55 cait           reiveune++ :)
13:55 reiveune       ???
13:55 clrh           caitbug 9117 too thx ;)
13:56 cait           :)
13:56 cait           as you are mentining it... I really need someone to test someting :)
13:57 clrh           matts: bug 7677 shouldnot be new I think
13:57 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , New area in subscriptions and new function when receiving
13:57 cait           bug 8378
13:57 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
13:57 cait           this is really a big bug for our libraries and I woud love to see that tested and hopefully signed off
13:57 cait           so it can go into qa
13:58 cait           it requires the overdues and fine cronjobs to be run, so it's probably not possible to test this on sandboxes :(
14:01 tcohen         leme see
14:01 dpavlin        Viktor: I don't quite understand what do you mean by "batch issuing"
14:01 dpavlin        we are using RFID as fancy replacement for barcodes and it works well for us with Koha
14:03 tcohen         i think Viktor might be suggesting that their librarians are faster at reading barcodes than the submission-then-re-render-chekin-page step
14:04 Viktor         dpavlin Glad to hear! That how they are used here to :) What I wonder is how the system handles the fact that you can put a bunch of books on a RFID-based station at once.
14:04 cait           Viktor: we found it's never a good idea
14:05 cait           because they miss problems
14:05 Viktor         tcohen dpavlin - For manual checkout/returns indeed.
14:05 cait           if everything is checked out -it's great
14:05 cait           but if you have one not for loan item in the stack
14:05 cait           it gets hard to find the book
14:05 cait           in the stack
14:05 cait           so that takes more time than doing it one by one
14:05 cait           and reacting instantly to any error messages or warnings
14:06 Viktor         tcohen dpavlin cait - Yes that's what I suspected. But sometimes when using machines the machine itself has a graphical interface to explain these problems to the user.
14:06 cait           yep self check machines do
14:06 cait           we just didn't find it working well at the circ desk
14:07 Viktor         I made a reques by the way for a barcode queue (checkout / returns) in the staff interface. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9844
14:07 huginn         04Bug 9844: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a barcode queue to checkout / return
14:07 tcohen         where are currencies set?
14:07 cait           in administration currencies :)
14:07 cait           tcohen: I will help you with configuration :)
14:07 Viktor         Sorry about mixing two topics - self service with RFID and staff interface :)
14:08 cait           I really need this problem resolved :)
14:08 Viktor         cait Thanks!
14:08 cait           Viktor: no problem - hope I made sense - lots of things going on at the same time :)
14:09 Viktor         cait - It did. And confirmed by suspicion :)
14:16 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #1084: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1084/
14:16 jenkins_koha   * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9832: avert software error with QP enabled and misconfigured
14:16 jenkins_koha   * Liz Rea: Bug 8979 - simple addition of news to CCSR theme
14:16 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9832 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , QueryParser causes software error if koha-conf.xml has not been updated
14:16 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8979 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "News" does not work with CCSR
14:16 matts          you're right clrh
14:27 oleonard       http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013/03/people/movers-shakers-2013/galen-charlton-movers-shakers-2013-tech-leaders/
14:27 oleonard       gmcharlt++
14:28 maximep        dpavlin++ for bug 8378
14:28 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 minor, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
14:31 magnuse        gmcharlt++
14:32 tcohen         hmmm cait:  Barcode: XXX Fine: $0.00
14:32 tcohen         when the UI says $5.00
14:32 cait           do you have a fine on the patron account?
14:32 cait           bah.
14:32 cait           is it an overdue fine?
14:32 tcohen         " Patron has Outstanding fees & charges of 5.00."
14:32 cait           created by the fnes cronjob?
14:33 tcohen         yes
14:33 cait           maximep: feel free to give it a test drive
14:33 cait           gmcharlt++ too
14:33 gmcharlt       thanks!
14:34 cait           very cool :)
14:34 cait           tcohen: what was the syntax you used in the overdues template?
14:35 tcohen         I edited the default ODUE notice,
14:35 tcohen         <item>"<<biblio.title>>" by <<biblio.author>>, <<items.itemcallnumber>>, Barcode: <<items.barcode>> Fine: <<items.fine>></item>
14:35 dpavlin        tcohen: patch doesn't touch fine calculation, it just inserts calculated value in template
14:36 dpavlin        is that item checkouted in last three days?
14:37 tcohen         i checked out with a due date two days ago
14:37 tcohen         the UI says there is a 5.00 debt
14:38 cait           which code has the debt? when you look at the fines tab?
14:39 tcohen         03/19/2013 	Rental View item Saludos 		5.00 	5.00 	Print
14:39 cait           that is rental :)
14:39 cait           it will only print overdue fines
14:39 cait           because it's an overdues notice :)
14:40 cait           you will have to set up circulation rules to charge fines
14:40 cait           and then you make sure system preference finesmode is production (set to calculate)
14:40 cait           and then you run the fines job
14:40 cait           and then there should be a fine on the bug with a F or FU type
14:40 cait           hat will get printed to the notice
14:41 jcamins        gmcharlt: congratulations!
14:44 tcohen         cait, i had the calculate and email the admin setting
14:44 tcohen         this are my circ rules http://snag.gy/yI92A.jpg
14:45 tcohen         the fact that it says a rental charge is another bug i think, because I've not set rental charges
14:47 jcamins        The new updatedatabase code is too dangerous for 3.12 I think, but other than that anything that can be finished by the end of the week is fair game.
14:47 magnuse        cait: should bug 9820 be "in discussion"?
14:47 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9820 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Missing space between 100/700 $a and $c (MARC21/XSLT)
14:48 cait           magnuse: maybe, I was hoping to get some more input
14:48 jcamins        I like the class idea.
14:51 jcamins        What we really need is a way for users to easily style fields however they want.
14:51 jcamins        But that's not really practical.
14:55 francharb      hi
14:55 wahanui        salut, francharb
14:56 magnuse        dpavlin++
15:04 magnuse        jcamins: do you think bug 9843 fixes the packages too?
15:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9843 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OpenILS/QueryParser.pm not (always) installed when installing from tarball
15:04 jcamins        magnuse: should do, yes.
15:04 magnuse        cool
15:07 tcohen         cait: how did those circulatio rules lookd to you?
15:09 cait           you need a fine and a fine interval
15:09 cait           like tell it 1.50 every day (interval = 1) grace period 0 max cap 4.50
15:10 tcohen         http://snag.gy/yI92A.jpg
15:10 cait           don#t give a suspension
15:10 cait           and give an overdue fines cap instead
15:11 cait           that is like 3* your fine or so
15:12 maximep        cait: ok, will try the patches for 8378 as soon as my fines are calculated on my dev... hopefully this hour -_-
15:12 alohabot       Hi mib_vrwg6n, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
15:12 mib_vrwg6n     hi alla
15:12 tcohen         cait, got it
15:12 tcohen         its functional as expected
15:13 tcohen         the problem was the finesmode
15:13 tcohen         setting
15:14 mib_vrwg6n     is it possible to copy marc record to a textbox and automaticly filling catalogging form
15:14 mib_vrwg6n     i mean is there a marc parser on koha?
15:15 oleonard       mib_vrwg6n: You can import MARC files
15:15 mib_vrwg6n     just mrc files?
15:15 jcamins        mib_vrwg6n: yes and no. You can import MARC, but there's functionality to copy and paste non-standard MARC into the interface for cataloging.
15:15 jcamins        Right.
15:16 jcamins        *no functionality...
15:16 jcamins        You can import but not copy-and-paste.
15:16 * jcamins      has terrible keylag and doesn't know what he's said until several seconds after he hits enter.
15:16 mib_vrwg6n     i think importing and caopying marc record to a textbox are same things
15:18 msales         Hi, we are having problems with the zebra indexing
15:18 oleonard       mib_vrwg6n: No, one requires a MARC file, the other involves plain text
15:19 jcamins        If you're talking about copying the binary MARC, just stick it in a file and import it. It's one extra step but in the end you get what you want.
15:19 jcamins        And think about using Z39.50 instead, since that's more likely to be what you want to do.
15:19 Herwig         Hey Koha
15:20 Herwig         where do i find the koha databas structure  i lost the link
15:20 oleonard       schema?
15:20 wahanui        somebody said schema was tracked in git. or found at http://schema.koha-community.org
15:20 Herwig         yay thats the one :) thx
15:21 msales         We installed the koha-common with the Unimarc  format, run the Portuguese installer (we previously installed the Portuguese language package), created and the tried to index an authority and a bibliographic record using the command: koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f library and got an error. Can anyone help?
15:21 jcamins        msales: you'll need to tell us what the error was.
15:21 mib_vrwg6n     i just want to copy plain text format marc format and paste it in textbox after koha will parse it and automaticly will fill cataloginig form
15:21 mib_vrwg6n     i need this func.
15:21 oleonard       mib_vrwg6n: Then you'll have to write it or sponsor its development
15:21 msales         here's the error: zebraidx(7930) [warn] /etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc/dom-config-marc.xml: stylesheet authority-zebra indexdefs.xls not found in path /etc/koha/zebradb/authorities/etc: /etc/koha/zebradb/etc: /etc/koha/zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/authorities:/etc/koha/zebradb/lang_defs/fr:/etc/koha/zebradb/xsl…
15:22 jcamins        msales: oh! Of course... you should be using GRS-1 with authorities for UNIMARC.
15:22 mib_vrwg6n     i just can give a kiss for this (((:
15:23 jcamins        msales: I think packages default to DOM for authorities.
15:23 jcamins        It should be pretty easy to change, but I don't know the exact commands off the top of my head.
15:26 jcamins        mib_vrwg6n: that feature would be quite difficult to implement most likely. You should see if there's any way you can get Z39.50 access to the catalogs you're screen scraping
15:26 jcamins        Or use a screen scraper that extracts MARC data.
15:26 jcamins        There are a few out there in various places.
15:26 msales         jcamins: thank you! we will make the change you suggest.
15:32 cait           tcohen++
15:33 tcohen         jcamins, 9843 is for a standard install, right?
15:37 jcamins        bug 9843
15:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9843 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OpenILS/QueryParser.pm not (always) installed when installing from tarball
15:37 jcamins        Yes.
15:38 tcohen         also the all-in-one-place install?
15:39 jcamins        I don't believe the all-in-one-place install works at all.
15:39 tcohen         (was called single, right?)
15:39 jcamins        But... probably.
15:39 * jcamins      doesn't remember what it's called.
15:39 tcohen         testing right now
15:39 tcohen         "single"
15:44 clrh           oleonard: hello - I am doing some point on rebases and I would like to know if you plan to do something on bug 7264
15:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7264 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Display information about library on OPAC detail
15:45 * magnuse      claims bug 9726 for testing and possible signoff
15:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9726 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , XISBN service throttle not initialized
15:46 oleonard       clrh: That bug is fixed by Bug 9572
15:46 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9572 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Opac info tooltip from branches is not well positioned
15:46 oleonard       clrh: I did not remember that 7464 was still open because of that issue
15:46 clrh           ah ha :)
15:47 clrh           May I let you closing it ?
15:47 msales         jcamins: It didn't work, we got the error message when searching for the authority record: Can't call method "raw" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm line 338.
15:47 oleonard       Sure
15:47 msales         We set the environment variables this way:export KOHA_CONF =/etc/koha/sites/biblioteca/koha-conf.xml export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib
15:48 clrh           oleonard: thanks
15:49 jcamins        msales: but no problems now when reindexing?
15:49 jcamins        (note: I'm working on other things and don't have a usable internet connection, so my troubleshooting is pretty much limited to asking questions that you've probably already considered)
15:49 cait           jcamins: are you talking about a package install with non-marc21?
15:50 jcamins        cait: yes.
15:50 jcamins        UNIMARC.
15:50 wahanui        i heard unimarc was http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation
15:51 jcamins        sophie_m: I just copied and pasted the instructions from the bug report.
15:51 magnuse        msales, jcamins sounds like bug 9256
15:51 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
15:51 * cait         nods
15:52 magnuse        it's qa'ed now, just needs the attention of some rm or other... ;-)
15:52 jcamins        But that won't happen until sometime either much later today or tomorrow.
15:53 * oleonard     demands that Myshkin stop hogging all of jcamins' time!
15:53 sophie_m       jcamins: the pb of carriage returns is dealt in Bug 9372
15:53 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Failed QA , Automatic carriage return in message_queue where content_type is html
15:54 cait           I was wondering about that patch actually... *goes to take a look at it*
15:55 sophie_m       jcamins: if you look at bug 6030, you will see that there are many bugs concerning genarating notices
15:55 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6030 critical, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Signed Off , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices
15:55 sophie_m       cait : which one ?
15:55 cait           the whitespace one :)
15:55 msales         jcamins and magnuse: thank you for your answers. Do you think that it is better to install the 3.8 version?
15:56 jcamins        sophie_m: okay, so different problems.
15:56 * jcamins      did not realize that.
16:05 magnuse        msales: probably
16:08 msales         magnuse: we'll do that! :) thank you.
16:08 oleonard       [off] Nobody here works for kisses? We're a cold-hearted bunch!
16:08 cait           [off] huh?
16:09 oleonard       [off] cait: mib_vrwg6n wanted a new development but could only pay in kisses
16:09 oleonard       [off] There were no takers
16:10 cait           oh
16:10 cait           has he sent a photo?
16:10 oleonard       :)
16:10 cait           [off]... :)
16:11 paul_p         [off] /me hopes that Koha-community 2013 mover and shaker will result in less pain than the previous one. (not really afraid though)
16:15 reiveune       bye
16:19 oleonard       How is Bug 5858 to be tested?
16:19 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags
16:22 jcamins        I suspect it's woefully out of date again.
16:22 oleonard       bkriegel added an update
16:22 frido_s        see you
16:25 jcamins        Oh.
16:26 jcamins        Confirm that recently-added tags show up.
16:26 jcamins        I guess.
16:27 oleonard       jcamins: I should be able to import the updated file via the interface or through mysql?
16:28 jcamins        oleonard: I thought it was a patch for the default framework.
16:29 oleonard       Yes, but how does it update my default framework? It doesn't trigger updatedatabase
16:31 jcamins        New installation.
16:31 jcamins        Don't want to clobber anyone's changes.
16:32 oleonard       And if one wanted to use the updated version (clobbering any changes)?
16:33 jcamins        You can load the SQL file with MySQL.
16:35 oleonard       ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 49: Duplicate entry '999-a' for key 'PRIMARY'
16:38 * jcamins      isn't sure, then.
16:40 magnuse        @later tell dpavlin: looking for encoding problems? bug 9772 is weird
16:40 huginn         magnuse: The operation succeeded.
16:42 magnuse        gah!
16:43 * magnuse      is seeing the symptoms of bug 9256 on a dev install now too...
16:43 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21
16:43 jcamins        magnuse: did you re-run the installer?
16:43 magnuse        yup
16:43 magnuse        twice
16:43 jcamins        Hm.
16:44 jcamins        I ran into a problem that went away when I reran the installer.
16:44 magnuse        also after applying the patch for 9256, in the hope that it would fix it
16:45 jcamins        A change added by QueryParser that triggers it?
16:45 magnuse        hm, could be perhaps
16:46 jcamins        (assuming it's new as of the last few days)
16:49 magnuse        jcamins: i'm not sure, it might have been a while since i tried searching on a dev install...
16:59 jcamins        magnuse: git bisect? :)
17:00 tcohen         if you have a script that can test for the bug, use git bissect
17:01 * magnuse      looks up git bisect
17:06 magnuse        tcohen: that should not be too hard
17:07 magnuse        i might have to upgrade between each test, though, because the problem involves config files...
17:14 clrh           jcamins: I am having a look to PQF query parser, is there a better way to understand things ? I looked at test, but I don't understand well the purpose of OpenILS directory
17:15 clrh           if it can be considered as external library why not moving it in a cpan module for example ?
17:15 clrh           (continuing reading )
17:17 cait           clrh: not sure jcamins is still here - but I think they are planning to do that - moving it into cpan long term
17:17 clrh           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239#c19 ookay
17:17 huginn         04Bug 9239: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries
17:17 clrh           cait: yep it was into the next comment ><
17:18 cait           long day :)
17:20 jcamins        Yes, what cait said.
17:21 cait           oleonard: was your comment earlier about bug 9535?
17:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9535 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Patron card creator "Remove duplicates" function doesn't work
17:21 cait           pretty hard to keep track of things right now
17:21 cait           and I meant bug 9353
17:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9353 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Signed Off , Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks
17:21 oleonard       cait: Yes
17:21 cait           no i tihnk we should not delete I think
17:21 cait           but hm.
17:22 cait           what do other think? the problem with deleting fields is that koha throws away fields it does not know on saving
17:23 jcamins        I think bgkriegel is fixing the patch to not delete any fields.
17:25 cait           ah good
17:26 cait           can I move it to failed qa then? or in discussion?
17:26 cait           we just need 6 more bug activies to reach yesterday :P
17:26 oleonard       Assigned I suppose
17:32 sophie_m       bye #koha
17:36 cait           :)
17:44 tcohen         bye #koha
17:44 TheBrookinator Hey
17:45 TheBrookinator Ugh can't see chat through mibbit on my touch
17:49 TheBrookinator Ha! I will ghetto alt tab the logs.
17:49 magnuse        106 bugs need signoff - the hackfesters in marseille are calling it a day - it's up to the people in the americas now! ;-)
17:49 magnuse        and nz soon
17:50 magnuse        perhaps there wil be less than 100 when the hackfest resumes? ;-)
17:50 magnuse        have fun, anyway!
17:51 datadoctor     Thank you hackfesters!
17:51 TheBrookinator Marseilles++
18:02 nancyk         #startmeeting KohaCon 13 Planning
18:02 huginn         Meeting started Tue Mar 19 17:59:10 2013 UTC.  The chair is nancyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:02 huginn         The meeting name has been set to 'kohacon_13_planning'
18:02 nancyk         #chair nancyk
18:02 huginn         Current chairs: nancyk
18:02 nancyk         #topic introductions
18:02 wahanui        #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
18:03 TheBrookinator Hi KohaCon folks :)
18:04 nancyk         have i goofed up because of daylight savings time?
18:05 jcamins        Most people are in Marseilles.
18:05 rhcl           #info Greg Lawson Rolling Hills Consolidated Library, St. Joseph, MO
18:05 jcamins        So far as I know you have the correct time.
18:06 nancyk         i'll give it a minute, and then report
18:07 TheBrookinator Don't look at me I'm just following the date and time link.
18:08 nancyk         ok, i'll go ahead then
18:08 nancyk         #topic KohaCon 13 update
18:08 nancyk         #info 23 people have registered for KohaCon 13 so far.
18:09 nancyk         #info We have 8 presentation offers so far.
18:09 nancyk         #info Please submit your idea for a presentation now, rather than later.  They will attract people to come to the convention.
18:10 TheBrookinator Hooray moar folks at Conference
18:10 nancyk         #topic we could use a co-chair
18:11 nancyk         any volunteers?
18:12 nancyk         #topic Master of ceremonies  Do we need someone to announce people and keep things moving along per schedule?
18:14 nancyk         #topic Cut-off date for submission of programs
18:14 nancyk         How do we get people who have promised to do one, to get them posted?
18:15 nancyk         Hey nancy, you are doing a great job!
18:15 nancyk         Thanks
18:15 Thebrookinator If you ever figure that out, you'll be a rich lady. We're largely a community of procrastinators. It all comes right in the end though
18:16 nancyk         I know
18:16 nancyk         #topic hackfest
18:16 rangi          We do need a cut off date
18:17 rangi          Set deadlines and ppl will stop procrastinating
18:17 nancyk         ok set one
18:18 rangi          Otherwise we will run the risk of not having the programme finalised in time for ppl to ask for permission to attend
18:18 rangi          I'd go April 14
18:18 nancyk         ok, you got it!
18:19 nancyk         #topic Opening speaker
18:19 rangi          We had an mc at kohacon10, Russel, worked well
18:19 Thebrookinator So you'll be all finished your talk with slides by next month or what?
18:20 rangi          No but your proposal will be
18:20 rangi          Slides can be the day before
18:20 nancyk         when do we need to see the final product, as in more than an idea?
18:21 rangi          The day they present it :)
18:21 nancyk         Yikes!  That's exciting!
18:22 nancyk         ok, on the the opening speaker RM, who?
18:22 rangi          well maybe 2 days before so you can load them onto the presenation computer :) but we've never done submit your whole talk before you do it before, and it works better than any conference ive been to that does that :-)
18:22 rangi          hmm
18:23 rangi          do you want to do a traditional keynote of someone totally outside the area?
18:23 rangi          or more of the kohacon style ?
18:23 Thebrookinator KohaCon has done both of those
18:23 nancyk         don't know, new at this..... I like to be different
18:23 rangi          (paul and I did kohacon09, rosalie blake (the first koha librarian) did kohacon10)
18:23 rangi          it has ?
18:24 rangi          Thebrookinator: who keynoted from outside library land?
18:24 Thebrookinator Yeah Jo is hardly Indian  xd
18:24 rangi          no, outside the area of the conference, not geography :)
18:24 nancyk         be thinking, we can talk about it more
18:24 nancyk         later'
18:25 rangi          lots of conferences have a keynote from someone who they think would be interesting but often knows nothing about the conference/topic :)
18:25 rangi          sometimes it works, sometimes it goes horribly wrong :)
18:25 Thebrookinator Yeah that's so. I'd not mind that changed or kept the same. No preference as long as it's inspirational
18:25 * rangi        is sorry he was late, i have 2 kids im trying to get ready for school and kindergarten at the same time
18:26 rangi          (everyone else is in marseille out eating dinner i suspect)
18:26 nancyk         sounds great
18:26 rangi          nancyk: maybe look at the proposals and pick one :)
18:26 Thebrookinator ^
18:27 rangi          at least none of those ones will want payment :)
18:27 Thebrookinator Hehehe
18:27 nancyk         good point
18:27 nancyk         #topic other
18:28 nancyk         We are buying a Go Pro camera for some live streaming .....  The Todd cam
18:28 rangi          ohh awesome
18:28 Thebrookinator I've to change the laundry then get to another meeting. Email me if ye want.
18:29 nancyk         ok, thaanks
18:29 nancyk         i have a plan to email an invite to library orgs who might be interested in attending
18:29 rangi          if you could do slightly delayed streaming, ie record and stream .. the recordings are useful
18:29 rangi          to look back on
18:30 rangi          did i show you the kohacon10 ones?
18:30 nancyk         We have a company that may do that for us for some chosen programs
18:30 nancyk         I saw some a while ago
18:31 rangi          https://blip.tv/the-curious-and-wondering-eye/
18:31 rangi          cool
18:31 nancyk         i'll have a look
18:32 nancyk         i also want to get a list of libraries and contacts from attendees for next year
18:32 rangi          right, you might want to add a button the registration form then
18:32 nancyk         #topic next meeting
18:32 rangi          asking (can we share your details)
18:33 nancyk         what time of day would you prefer?
18:33 nancyk         what details?
18:33 rangi          their names, library etc
18:34 nancyk         I want to be clear it will be shared with members
18:34 rangi          yep, so you will want to have a button that they can opt in to that
18:34 nancyk         ok
18:34 rangi          we have some privacy concious people
18:35 rangi          i think most will opt in though
18:35 nancyk         would the wiki be hidden enough?
18:36 rangi          hmm if its opt in yep
18:36 rangi          i think almost everyone did at kohacon12
18:36 nancyk         where can i find that?
18:36 wahanui        that is, like, in march
18:36 rangi          it was shared with attendees
18:37 nancyk         next meeting March 23
18:37 rangi          for kohacon10 we used koha to track registrations :)
18:37 rangi          and circulated people :)
18:37 rangi          (silly gimmick)
18:37 nancyk         but fun
18:37 rangi          yup
18:38 rangi          checked them out when the picked up their badge
18:38 nancyk         what time of day would you like for the next meeting?
18:38 rangi          hm what time is it now for you?
18:39 nancyk         11:38 AM
18:39 rangi          ohh easy
18:39 rangi          how about 1pm your time?
18:40 rangi          that would be 9am
18:40 nancyk         ok, then your kids will be in school
18:40 rangi          id be at work and could type without a 3 year old helping
18:40 rangi          and still early enough for the europeans in the evening
18:40 rangi          (9pm for them)
18:41 rangi          thanks very much for all your hard work, and tell me to shut up if i get annoying :) it will work out fine, it always does :)
18:42 nancyk         i was just pulling chains
18:42 nancyk         #action next meeting March 23 UTC 21
18:43 nancyk         Thanks for not making me talk to myself .... I'm determined, not discouraged
18:44 rangi          :)
18:44 nancyk         #endmeeting
18:44 huginn         Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 18:41:18 2013 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
18:44 huginn         Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning.2013-03-19-17.59.html
18:44 huginn         Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning.2013-03-19-17.59.txt
18:44 huginn         Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2013/kohacon_13_planning.2013-03-19-17.59.log.html
18:44 rangi          ok school run time
19:08 oleonard       104. Help me out guys, only 5 more to get us below 100.
19:10 oleonard       On the other hand, only 21 non-enhancement bugs awaiting signoff, which is a pretty nice number.
19:12 oleonard       Oh look Bug 8278 is on that list, that one looks like fun!
19:12 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
19:34 oleonard       A better way to say "Patron was earlier restricted until 04/03/2013" ?
19:34 * oleonard     is looking at Bug 8231
19:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8231 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Warning on Check in if borrower is restricted
19:34 oleonard       "Patron is still restricted until 04/03/2013" ?
19:34 bgallagher     Cool - how about previously restricted
19:35 oleonard       "Patron was previously restricted until 04/03/2013" Does that not potentially imply that they are no longer restricted?
19:35 bgallagher     Oh yeah it could
19:37 oleonard       Back from dinner eh bgallagher?
19:38 bgallagher     Owen I am so sick
19:38 bgallagher     Bad food or water sometime
19:38 bgallagher     Not good
19:38 oleonard       :(
19:38 oleonard       Oh no
19:39 bgallagher     I can finally lay in bed now so that's good and makes it better
19:40 oleonard       I sure hope you feel better soon
19:42 bgkriegel      oleonard:  testing 8278, where are the publishers defined?
19:43 bgkriegel      found: authoritites.
19:44 oleonard       biblioitems.publishercode
19:44 oleonard       It's not a true authority, just pulling from existing entries.
19:44 bgkriegel      ok
19:45 jcamins        bug 8278
19:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin
19:46 * oleonard     crosses his fingers
19:46 bgkriegel      it works, i'm signing
19:46 jcamins        \o/
19:48 oleonard       bgkriegel++
20:04 oleonard       101
20:05 bgkriegel      almost :) I'm redoing 5858.
20:13 oleonard       See you later #koha
20:17 drojf          good evening #koha
20:17 drojf          how is the hackfest going?
20:27 jcamins        drojf: it's going well.
20:27 jcamins        In fact, everyone is waiting for you to sign off on two patches and bring the needs signoff queue below 100.
20:29 drojf          [off] heh. i'd love to but i'm completely out of order. this "getting my thesis registered" thing is driving me nuts.
20:30 jcamins        Bug 9817 looks fun!
20:30 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9817 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add Goodreads reviews tab to the OPAC
20:30 jcamins        ^^ see? Fun!
20:30 jcamins        [off] Eww.
20:33 drojf          [off] first they took my subject and took away all the crazy fun parts that i could do two phd's with instead of an MA, today they took away my second supervisor. i got one week to get this registered or i lose my university jobs. yay
20:34 jcamins        [off] :(
20:35 cait           [off] :( ?
20:35 cait           hi wizzyrea
20:36 * wizzyrea     waves
20:36 * jcamins      waves to wizzyrea, who surely wants to sign off on two patches.
20:36 wizzyrea       I had two in mind actually, but headed into a meeting :(
20:36 wizzyrea       but I will def try to today
20:37 jcamins        Yay!
20:37 wizzyrea       those two may have been grabbed already
20:37 wizzyrea       will check when I have a minute
20:37 jcamins        You can do any two and you'll still get karma. :)
20:38 wizzyrea       oh I don't care about karma - I do care about koha though
21:14 drojf          ha. i signed off on bug 9817
21:14 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9817 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Add Goodreads reviews tab to the OPAC
21:14 jcamins        Woohoo!
21:14 jcamins        drojf++
21:20 cait           drojf++
21:56 drojf          i rebased bug 9295 for your signoff pleasure
21:56 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9295 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Introduce operator equal/ notequal to OAI set mapping instead of hardcoded 'equal' value
22:18 dcook          Morning #koha
22:35 maximep        anyone knows why the item barcode would be shown in serials edit ? I guess PrepareItemrecordDisplay in Items never returns a value for the field ?
22:49 maximep        well, ignore that question. Turns out that code is complicated -_-
23:37 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9843' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba22e7daf6bf0344217894e0ac1bad3d6d8022ef> / Bug 9843: Include OpenILS directory in Perl lib directory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4dbd7c452878ef9eea411f54e3f90820bc8a3e1f>
23:39 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1085 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:56 rangi          http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2013/03/people/movers-shakers-2013/galen-charlton-movers-shakers-2013-tech-leaders/
23:56 rangi          (in case it hasnt been posted before)