Time Nick Message 00:06 jcamins Would someone else like to check master, because as far as I can tell the updates are in order. 00:07 jcamins They weren't, so I corrected them. 00:07 jcamins Twelve hours ago. 00:07 bgkriegel what kind of check? 00:07 jcamins bgkriegel: just check if the updates appear in order. 00:07 jcamins With 3.11.00.030 appearing after 3.11.00.029. 00:07 bgkriegel ok 00:10 eythian jcamins: my copy of master looks correct 00:10 jcamins eythian: thanks. 00:10 jcamins I need to figure out a way to prevent git auto-merging the updates in the wrong order. 00:11 eythian a test case that parses out the updates and checks their order? 00:11 jcamins eythian: yeah, I was thinking of doing that. :) 00:11 jcamins I just have to figure out how to do it. 00:11 bgkriegel the gap between 030 and then 100 is correct? 00:12 jcamins bgkriegel: yup. 00:13 bgkriegel then it's ok 00:14 jcamins Thanks. 00:55 wizzyrea i am really fantastically impressed by the filters and sorting on the intranet detail 00:55 wizzyrea that is made of win. 00:55 jcamins For items? 00:55 wizzyrea eff yea 00:55 jcamins Ah. 00:58 jcamins The more testing there is of the alpha, the better 3.12 will be! 00:58 jcamins Well- 00:58 jcamins if people fix some of the bugs they find, anyway. 00:59 jcamins If you just report them and no one pays any attention it won't make a difference. :P 00:59 cjh knowing about the bugs is still better than not :) 00:59 jcamins True. 00:59 wizzyrea fixing them is better though. 00:59 jcamins Much better. 01:37 MrAgent075 Hello World! :) 01:37 cjh MrAgent075: welcome back 01:37 wahanui cait abducted me. 01:37 cjh heh 01:38 wizzyrea MrAgent075: https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/issues/684 looks it's a known issue 01:38 wizzyrea https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/issues/931 01:38 wizzyrea also this 01:39 wizzyrea https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/issues/3532 and this 01:47 wizzyrea MrAgent075: it looks to me like the buttons here http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/components.html#buttonDropdowns work the way we might expect 01:47 wizzyrea so maybe it's a different version of bootstrap? 01:48 MrAgent075 Different Version of Bootstrap? 01:49 wizzyrea right - like perhaps we don't have the most current one, and we need to upgrade it 01:49 wizzyrea because their examples seem to work sanely with tabs and arrows 01:49 MrAgent075 wizzyrea: I don't think it has to do with those variables that we selected from the 'Customizing' page.... is it? 01:49 wizzyrea naw, owen built his own package 01:50 wizzyrea or included everything and did css overrides 01:50 wizzyrea owen's patch is on your original bug I think 01:50 wizzyrea ] 01:51 MrAgent075 wizzyrea: the issue on [ https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/issues/684 ] seems to be a year old... 01:51 MrAgent075 Yet we didn't see any problems that are described... 01:51 wizzyrea yep, i'm not sure what they're on about - their issue tracking is confusing at best. 01:52 MrAgent075 On that page, I believe they're just adding more rules... Seems strange, when it just works... 01:52 MrAgent075 or defining rules... 01:52 wizzyrea yea, I wouldn't get hung up on it really 01:53 wizzyrea because I found another ticket, in the rabbit warren den of bugs related to bootstrap + accessibility, that was closed yesterday 01:53 wizzyrea and their example page, 01:53 wizzyrea the buttons work pretty sanely 01:53 wizzyrea with the keyboard 01:54 wizzyrea come here for a sec 01:57 eythian jcamins: y'bout? I have a cataloguing question for you. 01:59 eythian guess not. I'll just make up the answer then. 01:59 wizzyrea what was your question? 02:00 eythian How would: "Contacts for consultation : a directory of Maori organisations = Nga ropu kai korero a iwi : he whakamohio" be converted into the 245 field? 02:01 wizzyrea basically it's a translated title? 02:01 eythian Looking at the MARC21 specs, I think it should end up being 245$a="Contacts for consultation :", 245$b="a directory of Maori organisations = Nga ropu kai korero a iwi : he whakamohio" 02:01 wizzyrea I think there's a marc field for that kind of thing 02:01 eythian I thought so to, but the examples don't seem to reflect that 02:01 wizzyrea I don't feel like that's a subtitle 02:01 eythian 245 03$aLe Bureau$h[filmstrip] =$bLa Oficina = Das Büro. 02:02 wizzyrea maybe a 246? 02:02 eythian (from the loc.gov docs) 02:02 wizzyrea hm 02:02 eythian I think the '=' converts the subtitle field into the parallel title field from that point on, roughly 02:03 wizzyrea hm not sure. 02:03 wizzyrea thought I'd try tho 02:03 eythian ahhh 02:03 eythian the docs do say 02:03 eythian $b is not subtitle 02:03 eythian $b is "remainder of title" 02:03 MrAgent075 wizzyrea: so we scrapping idea? [ http://www.pilcrowsquared.com/corey/photos/test.png ] 02:04 eythian "Data includes parallel titles, titles subsequent to the first (in items lacking a collective title), and other title information. " 02:04 eythian I was going wrong thinking it was subtitle 02:04 jcamins eythian: yep. 02:04 wizzyrea ah there you go 02:04 jcamins What's the question? 02:04 wahanui somebody said the question was "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 02:04 jcamins Ah. 02:04 jcamins $aContacts... $ba directory... $cNga ropu... 02:05 eythian jcamins: are you sure, I don't think that's a statement of responsibility 02:05 wizzyrea I agree with eythian here 02:05 wizzyrea it's like a translated title 02:05 eythian there's no '/' in the data, and that's what LOC says is needed. 02:05 jcamins You will *also* need a 246 31 $aNga ropu...$bhe whakamohio 02:05 jcamins Yes. 02:05 jcamins I'm sure. 02:05 jcamins It is a translated title. 02:06 jcamins The rules don't make sense, but there you go. 02:06 jcamins $c is statement of responsibility "etc." 02:07 eythian but $b is "remainder of title", including all the other things. 02:07 jcamins If there's a statement of responsibility, that goes in the middle. 02:07 eythian up to a / that is 02:07 jcamins eythian: I can tell you the records I've seen have always started a new field after =, either $b or $c. 02:08 eythian jcamins: the loc examples don't 02:08 jcamins I can't say whether that's actually "correct," because 245 coding is the most backward part of library cataloging I've yet encountered. 02:08 eythian 245 10$aRock mechanics :$bjournal of the International Society for Rock Mechanics = Felsmechanik. 02:08 eythian it is very confusing 02:08 jcamins Go with that, then. 02:09 * jcamins shrugs, goes back to working on non-MARC things. 02:09 eythian OK. I think this means I don't have to edit my parser all that much, too :) 02:09 * eythian will be spending the next few days staring at MARC, mostly in horror I think. 02:10 wizzyrea hey I wasn't wrong! 02:10 wizzyrea at least not wholly :P 02:17 * dcook thinks the rock mechanics example looks funny 02:17 dcook But I haven't done a ton with parallel titles 02:18 dcook Tough to make something that considers the rules when cataloguers/cataloguing agencies don't follow them consistently 02:19 eythian http://neil.fraser.name/news/2013/03/16/ <-- teaching of CS in Vietnam. 03:44 druthb o/ 03:46 cjh o/*\o 04:00 eythian http://www.partiallyclips.com/filk/nethack/RobBalderDotCom_NetHack.mp3 <-- cjh, wizzyrea, probably others here. 04:06 eythian wahanui: elbereth is <reply>huginn turns to flee! 04:06 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:22 cjh heh awesome 04:23 cjh actually really good. 04:58 tanzeem hi gud day 04:58 tanzeem dudes 04:59 tanzeem i had a requirement on using search and print 04:59 tanzeem the results in one go 04:59 tanzeem currently i can get search results and add it to a custom list page by page only 04:59 tanzeem and get the list printed at last 05:01 tanzeem Is there any way to get all the search result get printed at one button click? 05:07 tanzeem di i need to edit the code 06:30 dcook *waves to cait* 06:30 dcook Gotta jet, but hope you have a good morning ^_^ 06:30 cait heya dcook 06:30 cait oh 06:49 tanzeem hey 06:49 tanzeem gud morning all 06:49 tanzeem i had a douobt anyone to help 07:14 alohabot Hi mib_x4zvvk, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 07:15 kohanewbie anybody awake? 07:17 kohanewbie guess not 07:32 tanzeem I had a requirement on using search and print the results in one go. Currently i can get search results and add it to a custom list page by page only and get the list printed at last. Is there any way to get all the search result get printed at one button click? Or do i need to edit the code for this to add new functionality to print all the results on one bu 07:41 reiveune hello 08:08 matts hi ! 08:08 rangi hi matts, lds and reiveune 08:21 francharb hello #all 08:23 alohabot Hi mib_f133xk, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 08:29 jajm hello 08:29 wahanui que tal, jajm 08:33 christophe_c hello koha 08:34 bag good morning 08:35 asaurat hi! 08:35 khall mornin all! 08:36 * magnuse waves from marseille 08:39 rangi hi francharb, jajm, christophe_c, bag, asaurat, khall and magnuse 08:39 francharb hi rangi 08:39 bag heya rangi 08:40 jajm hi rangi 08:40 christophe_c hi rangi 08:45 magnuse kia ora rangi 08:47 tanzeem hi 08:48 tanzeem anybody konws a solution to my problem posted earlier? 08:48 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (9:30 AM CET on March 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising). 08:49 tanzeem :( 08:54 alex_a hello ! 08:54 alex_a @wunder mrs 08:54 huginn alex_a: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (9:30 AM CET on March 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising). 09:01 Joubu hi #koha! 09:01 cait hi Joubu :) 09:01 cait ready to do some qa? :) 09:08 drojf good morning #koha 09:09 cait good morning drojf 09:09 cait welcome to hackfest bug sqashing madness :) 09:09 slef morning 09:10 drojf nice. squash some for me please. got university madness to deal with :( 09:14 cait ts 09:14 cait morning slef 09:14 dpavlin Marseille hackfest introduction is in progress... 09:16 drojf dpavlin: you are there? 09:19 rangi oh, something to mention for the hackfest 09:19 rangi i think we have a problem with the sudoc icons in master 09:19 dpavlin drojf: yap 09:19 rangi http://www.abes.fr/Sudoc/Boite-a-outils-Sudoc-public/Les-icones-Sudoc 09:19 rangi they are licensed cc-by-sa-nc 09:19 drojf dpavlin: cool, have fun 09:20 rangi which isn't gpl3 compatible 09:20 drojf the rest of you too, of course 09:21 rangi could someone who speaks french ask the license holder if they could offer it under a license we could use .. or we will have to remove them before release 09:21 cait I will point someone to it 09:21 rangi thank you 09:22 cait I think they are trying to get the librarian group into #koha right now :) 09:22 cait who was the original patch from? 09:22 rangi it would be a shame to have to remove them again, but we are breaking the license if we distribute them 09:22 rangi biblibre iirc 09:22 cait wanted to know which one :) 09:22 cait but it's ok 09:22 cait I will figure out 09:23 rangi sophie_m 09:23 wahanui sophie_m is looking for a .mrc file to import into the catalog 09:23 rangi bug 9025 09:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9025 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add new icons for item types 09:23 rangi that one 09:24 slef rangi: -nc? Which isn't FOSS-compatible :-/ 09:25 rangi yep 09:25 rangi so we would have to get them under a different license or remove them 09:25 rangi -nc is a blight 09:27 slef rangi: yeah. It's also confused or at least confuses licensors. Have you read any Rob Myers diatribes against it? 09:27 rangi yeah, its like 'as such' it's a field day for lawyers 09:27 magnuse slef: my DUE messages are being sent out with title and author now 09:30 slef magnuse: not heard back about ours yet, but thanks for your help. 09:31 clrh hello 09:31 wahanui hello, clrh 09:32 cait hi claire :) 09:32 cait rangi, slef: I talked to paul_p about the icons 09:32 cait maybe you can state the problem here better than I can? 09:32 drojf i think NC is not a blight. if you don't want your stuff to be used by evil corporations, with CC you don't have another choice than to use it and grant extra permissions to eg. FOSS projects, as far as i can see. a NC flavour as »non-closed« would be nice to have -> »free to use with GPL« or something 09:33 rangi drojf: NC doesn't do what it seeks to do 09:33 drojf true 09:34 rangi cait/paul_p: we cant include the files licensed under cc-by-sa-nc 09:34 rangi its that simple 09:34 rangi they need to be under a FOSS compatible license 09:35 clrh jcamins: hello I am trying to enhance search engine documentation on the wiki and there is a lot of things, do you have a clear overview ? is there an "entry point" ? 09:35 rangi i'm sorry I didn't spot that before it was pushed 09:35 paul_p agreed with rangi. The licence is clearly stated, I don't see what I should/could ask to ABES (except "change your licence" or "bi-licence", which will not be successfull and/or quick) 09:35 rangi yah 09:36 cait clrh: I think a bit too early for jared - maybe around lunch time he will show up 09:36 rangi i think dual license, or change the license is the only thing we could do 09:36 cait clrh: did you see the query parser yet ? it went in yesterday 09:36 clrh cait: nop 09:36 clrh cait: where can I read or see things about this ? 09:37 rangi paul_p: it's a shame, they are nice icons 09:37 clrh ("far in my mind") 09:37 slef drojf: NC is non-commercial, not non-corporation. Tons of people use it as an attack on evil corporations, but it leaves them totally unprotected against them. 09:38 slef drojf: a truly evil corporation will take the -NC work, distribute it massively for free, thereby destroying most of the market for the creator to make money from selling it themselves. 09:41 * rangi was going to try signing off on bug 9352 09:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9352 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Needs Signoff , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 7XX 09:41 drojf slef: i don't think NC is useable as a business model. i would use that for fun/ hobby projects that i somehow think are useful for others. i don't know, blogging or painting stuff, but things that i do not plan to commercialize, but that "are there" and i agree others should be able to use if they like. i don't know what the icon people in our case do 09:42 rangi but i dont have good test data, ill leave that to someone who has more unimarc data to test 09:42 cait i think there was a unimarc db on the sandbox repo 09:42 cait I am using that mostly 09:43 slef drojf: I think I called it the Municipal Flowerbed of licensing: it looks good at first glance but costs us all money, is often a waste of productive land and reduces the demand for commercial flowers. 09:44 reiveune cait: for 5635, the little explain can be in a comment or do you want it on commit message ? 09:44 cait reiveune: commit message would be better I think :) 09:49 drojf slef: i don't see how that reduces the demand of »commercial flowers«. it obvioulsy does not, hence the problem now :P 09:50 drojf anyhow, having looked at the abes site i don't think this license makes much sense in this case 09:50 cait flowers? 09:51 slef cait: s/flowers/creative works/ - I used it as a metaphor years ago. 09:51 slef cait: lots of tulips and other flowers are grown in South Holland, 10 miles from me. 09:52 rangi is fridolyn around? 09:56 cait he is 09:56 cait do yo uwant me to point him to irc? 09:57 rangi fridolyn++ #for giving me the chance to write that comment on bug 9683 09:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9683 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Allow disable rewrite apache mod 09:57 * rangi signs off 09:58 gaetan_B hello 09:58 * cait waves at gaetan_B :) 10:04 clrh something exists yet: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Record_Indexing_and_Retrieval 10:04 clrh \lo/ 10:05 frido_s hie all, Fridolyn SOMERS 10:07 frido_s rangi: hie, you were looking for me ? 10:08 rangi frido_s: yep http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9683#c5 10:08 huginn 04Bug 9683: normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Allow disable rewrite apache mod 10:08 rangi i signed off 10:09 frido_s rangi: super cool 10:10 magnuse rangi: tee hee ;-) 10:11 frido_s RewriteRule (.+) $1?%1%2 [N,R,NE] 10:11 frido_s rangi: do you think we can remove it instead of comment ? 10:12 rangi i think probably remove it and the condition later, commented for now is fine 10:16 rangi as far as i can tell, removing empty parameters is just dangerous, and not ever useful 10:16 cait should koha update to 100? 10:16 rangi yep, thats the alpha release 10:18 rangi right time to sleep 10:18 rangi have a good day 10:25 cait1 oh good 10:26 frido_s rangi: ok, thanks 10:30 brendan_ hello 10:38 liw rangi, if you take all my Debian advice seriously, I will have to start thinking about what I say 11:15 frido_s Rebased Bug 7933, needs QA 11:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7933 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Fields in marc display not the same 11:19 alex_a reiveune++ 11:19 reiveune ?? 11:19 alex_a reiveune: bz 3087 11:19 clrh dpavlin: works for me http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr_deployment#Setup_Solr 11:19 alex_a sed command :) 11:19 matts reiveune++ 11:20 dpavlin clrh++ I allready started reading and following it :-) 11:20 reiveune ha, ok :) 11:21 Viktor Hi! 11:21 cait1 hi Viktor :) 11:22 bag alex_a++ 11:22 cait1 bug 3087 11:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3087 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Z39.50 server returns usmarc format records for UNIMARC DB 11:22 bag signoff on bz 7883 11:23 Viktor Does anyone know if there is a way to lock Koha to always handle input the same way? For example "Always search for barcode and open the checkout history-tab". 11:23 clrh dpavlin: actually, it it old doc but with wrong title in wiki, I am adjusting the "perl lib install" now 11:23 Viktor That would be highly usable :) 11:24 drojf Viktor: if i understand you correctly that should be doable with jquery (change default tab, default menu item) 11:25 Viktor Thanks drojf! 11:26 drojf Viktor: do you know http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library ? that might give you some ideas 11:26 Viktor Question is if I can build it easy enough for the average librarian to use in everyday use on a whim. 11:27 Viktor I guess I could just insert a search box pointing to "cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/issuehistory.pl?biblionumber=input form form" 11:27 drojf you would put the jquery in the local js syspref, there is nothing to handle in everyday use 11:28 Viktor No - Might prepare a few custom boxes and hide them somewhere in a local add on. Thanks drojf 11:44 jcamins clrh: no. 12:24 oleonard Ahoy Hackfesters 12:27 clrh jcamins: actually I found this category: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Category:Record_Indexing_and_Retrieval seems to be the closest 12:27 jcamins clrh: interesting! I didn't know about that category. 12:28 clrh ^^ 12:28 clrh Maybe the name "search engine" would be more appropriate (I thought you created it ;) 12:29 jcamins Search engine would be much more appropriate. 12:37 bag great cheese to finsh up lunch!!! 12:37 bag looking forward to more good cheese! 12:38 oleonard Hey bag, flight go okay? 12:38 bag yup no problems 12:38 oleonard where are you staying? 12:38 bag hotel moderna 12:40 * cait1 waves at oleonard 12:40 cait1 there also was cake - yum. 12:40 oleonard Looks like you'll have good weather this week? 12:41 cait1 it didn't look like it at first but now it's sunny outside 12:41 cait1 hm or it was a bit earlier 12:43 oleonard First thunderstorm of spring happening here at the moment 12:49 cait1 jcamins: already awake? :) 12:49 cait1 I was about to answer the mail on the mailing list about a query parser problem, but then ralized you might be here already 12:50 jcamins Yeah, just pondering the unit test for 7804. 12:50 oleonard jcamins hasn't slept since Thursday evening 12:50 jcamins I'll take a look. 12:54 clrh rangi: hello, when does this board reinitialized ? http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ 12:54 clrh (has been) 12:54 cait1 oleonard: why did he not? 12:55 cait1 clrh: I think rangi is keeping it as it was 12:55 cait1 clrh: but everyone should show up on the dashboard 12:55 oleonard Based on the bugzilla activity cait1 12:55 cait1 http://dashboard.koha-community.org 12:55 * cait1 nick ciat 12:55 cait1 hm 12:56 clrh it would have been interresting to reinitialize it when hf starts 12:56 cait clrh: I think noone thought of it and now rangi is asleep 12:57 clrh ;) 12:57 clrh ooki 12:57 clrh I wil ask him tomorrow ^^ 13:01 tcohen is bz down or its our isp? 13:02 jcamins Works for me. 13:04 cait bag++ 13:08 tcohen its our isp, was hearing mgmt's kids @ grooveshark and stopped too 13:13 oleonard tcohen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxQtTp4V32E 13:14 tcohen OMGH 13:14 tcohen thanks oleonard !! 13:15 cait hm git bz is very slow for me too 13:27 Herwig Hey Koha ive been doing library work the last week and i noticed in aquisitions that i sometimes get more then 1 discription in my catalog from 1 item in the aquisitions - add basket - add order follow up ... do i do something wrong ? 13:27 clrh what is brendan nickname ? 13:27 bag bag 13:27 bag brendan = bag 13:27 clrh https://trello.com/board/community-biblibre-koha-devs/4f1d247284210f0e6300d7d7 the board I show you bag 13:28 bag thank you! 13:28 bag whoops… merci 13:29 reiveune paul_p: can you confirm me the english availability of this explain please : list of fields that will not be imported : can be either 001 to 999 or field, subfield and subfield's matching value as such 200avalue 13:32 jcamins khall: around? 13:33 frido_s bug 9806 needs to be splitted in feature and cosmetic changes (sometimes folding) . I've added a comment 13:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9806 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Patch doesn't apply , Show more information on basketgroups lists 13:34 paul_p jcamins just called khall that is in front of me ;-) 13:34 jcamins Thanks. 13:36 frido_s does someone know what means "good reads" at OPAC ? 13:37 oleonard Integration with this service: http://www.goodreads.com/ 13:38 matts cait, khall, I've answered to your concerns about BZ 7673, if you may want to have a look at it again... :) 13:38 cait matts: ok :) 13:38 cait bug 7673 13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , New patron permissions 13:41 clrh dpavlin: I got error with moose dependencies :'( 13:41 clrh errorSS 13:48 bag christophe_c: admin/patron-attr-types.pl line 300 needs { } 13:50 christophe_c ok thx bag 13:51 bag christophe_c: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9835 13:51 huginn 04Bug 9835: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Brackets missing for branches for patron attribute types 13:51 christophe_c ok bag I take it 13:53 magnuse christophe_c++ 13:53 christophe_c magnuse: the ++ for bag in fact ;-) 13:54 magnuse ok bag++ then :-) 13:54 bag christophe_c++ 13:55 christophe_c ;-) 13:57 jcamins Good news, everyone! 13:58 magnuse yay! 13:58 magnuse what? 13:58 jcamins Apparently while we were all doing useful things, patent law in the United States became *even* *stupider*. 13:58 oleonard Oh gawd what now 13:58 magnuse um, is that good news? it's so stupid it might just implode 13:59 jcamins oleonard: apparently the US now has a first-to-file system instead of first-to-invent. 13:59 jcamins Which I think means that Microsoft can patent things that Apple did in the 80s and vice versa. 14:00 oleonard Anyone have anything they'd like me to look at? 14:05 jcamins paul_p: could you (or someone else who speaks French) please confirm the license on the sudoc icons? 14:06 paul_p jcamins = yes, I confirm, it's clearly cc-nc-sa, which is not GPL compatible 14:07 jcamins Thanks. 14:07 jcamins I will revert. 14:07 paul_p i've nothing against it (except it's fancy icons, shame they've this licence...) 14:08 paul_p cait = QAing but 9780 14:08 cait bug 9780 14:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Signed Off , Deleting a record suppress bibliographic info in orders using that record 14:08 cait i am on bug 9103 right now 14:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9103 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , overdue_notices.pl should use AutoEmailPrimaryAddress syspref 14:08 jcamins Reverted. 14:14 cait :,( 14:14 jajm cait: bug 9117 freshly rebased :) 14:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Reports hierarchies management improvements 14:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Merge branch 'bug_9025' into 3.12-master" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=300b1276d6294972fa7a94ac529a653342644ca2> 14:16 cait jajm: thanks :) htat's next in row now 14:17 cait guess it will take all night to read all the bug mails produced today :) 14:18 cait oleonard: is yui menu dead yet? :) 14:19 oleonard almost! 14:20 oleonard Actually the menus may all be done. 14:20 oleonard Bug 8278, Bug 9769, Bug 9773 14:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8278 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI autocomplete in UNIMARC 210c plugin 14:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9769 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI buttons on acquisitions basket page with Bootstrap 14:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery 14:20 oleonard Odds and ends left. 14:22 oleonard And then there's the basketgroups drag and drop JS which I'm scared to look at :( 14:23 oleonard But I have a patch ready to "isolate" that page by calling YUI dependencies directly and remove them from the global header 14:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1083 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 14:37 cait but 9103 passed qa 14:37 cait bug 9103 14:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9103 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , overdue_notices.pl should use AutoEmailPrimaryAddress syspref 14:37 cait oleonard++ :) 14:37 cait hope you get sign-offs on those :) 14:37 cait *hint* 14:37 clrh http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Solr_deployment#Install_perl_libs dpavlin it works for me know! 14:39 clrh http://git.biblibre.com/?p=koha;a=tree;f=C4/RPN2Solr;h=e431911f8fb1038079b9fa5704ff1a07a300947b;hb=dev/solr dpavlin 14:43 Joubu dpavlin: patch already exists: bug 9727. It is waiting qa 14:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9727 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Signed Off , Typo in code causes compilation failure with Solr enabled 14:44 Joubu cc cait: Bug 9727 wait for qa. It is a really easy patch ;) 14:44 jajm khall: bug 6739 doesn't apply on master, could you rebase it please? 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6739 major, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Patch doesn't apply , expired patrons not blocked from opac actions 14:45 cait bug 9727 14:45 cait Joubu: hm I don't have solr 14:45 cait maybe I can use dpavlin's setup :) 14:48 cait Joubu: I talked to dpavlin - will look at 9117 now - but this next 14:49 magnuse germs? 14:49 wahanui i guess germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 14:49 magnuse germs? 14:49 wahanui germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 14:49 magnuse germs? 14:49 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 14:50 clrh \o/ 14:57 dpavlin Joubu: I just signed off bug 9727 -- I have same fix :-) 14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9727 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Signed Off , Typo in code causes compilation failure with Solr enabled 15:08 oleonard tcohen: Can you please add a test plan to your patch for Bug 9731? 15:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9731 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Remove changelanguage.pl in favor of (already present) opac-changelanguage.pl 15:13 tcohen done 15:14 oleonard Thanks 15:14 tcohen its actually a trivial fix, both files are almost identical 15:14 tcohen there were still wrong references to the old-not-deleted one 15:22 * matts will smile for sign-offs (and qa's too) ! :) 15:24 matts otherwise i'll pout ! 15:24 jcamins matts: does that work? 15:24 matts Not for the moment, but I have hope ! 15:25 jcamins Hehe. 15:25 matts C'mon people ! I've got small patches, big patches, all freshly rebased and waiting for you ! 15:28 oleonard Don't forget the finely-aged patches! 15:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1083: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1083/ 15:30 jenkins_koha Jared Camins-Esakov: Revert "Merge branch 'bug_9025' into 3.12-master" 15:31 tcohen rebasing but 7440 is no fun at all 15:38 jcamins tcohen: I gave up on 7430. 15:38 magnuse bug 7440 15:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7440 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Vestiges of NoZebra should be removed 15:38 jcamins I was going to do 7440 after 7430 got in, but when 7430 became an albatross I decided to just leave it. 15:39 jcamins Wait... 15:39 jcamins bug 7340 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7340 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced enhancement 15:39 jcamins bug 7430 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED WONTFIX, ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio 15:39 jcamins No, I did get it right. 15:39 jcamins I was going to do 7430 and then 7440, but when 7430 didn't work out I couldn't bring myself to do 7440, so now you get to look at it. 15:44 tcohen i hate you :-P 15:49 jajm cait: i'm writing a follow-up for bug 9117, will be available soon 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Reports hierarchies management improvements 15:51 cait jajm: thx - continuing testing :) 15:52 cait jajm: oh 15:52 oleonard Ugh, a wild UTF-8utf-8 appears... 15:52 cait jajm: could you also fix another small thing? single quotes in javascript string 15:57 cait jajm++ 16:01 tcohen i think i need to redo the patch for 7440 jcamins 16:01 jcamins :( 16:10 paul_p cait QAing bug 9341 now 16:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Signed Off , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets 16:10 cait paul_p: still working on report hierarchies - very nice feature 16:20 tcohen donde rebasing bug 7440 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7440 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Vestiges of NoZebra should be removed 16:25 drojf oh my 16:25 paul_p cait QAing bug 8979 16:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8979 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , "News" does not work with CCSR 16:30 paul_p cait QAing bug 7441 (cc khall ) 16:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7441 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , search results showing wrong branch? 16:31 cait paul_p++ :) 16:34 reiveune bye 16:36 cait oleonard: around? 16:36 oleonard Yes 16:42 cait ah 16:43 cait I am passing qa on 9117 16:43 cait and wanted to ask if you have taken a look at it by chance? 16:43 cait I think it turned out rather nice :) 16:43 cait and maybe... someday git bz will let me attach all five patches back to the bug 16:43 oleonard No I haven't seen it in action 16:44 cait right now I have messed up the bug... *sigh* 16:45 jcamins cait: how much longer will you folks be hacking away? It strikes me that your day is probably just about over, in which case it might make sense for me to wait and just push everything at once. 16:46 cait yep 16:46 jcamins Push or fail, obviously. 16:46 cait we are about to wrap up I think 16:46 cait people started talking about dinner 16:47 oleonard Mmm.... dinner. 16:47 oleonard Hopefully francharb and gaetan_B won't take you on too long a walk to find it ;) 16:49 gaetan_B oleonard: :D the walk back from the ukrainian restaurant is much easier than the walk to get there somehow 16:50 jcamins Hehe. 16:59 cait oleonard: I am more worried tht they actually know where it is and it#s not closed on this day 17:08 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/progress.pl 17:08 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/bug_counts.pl 17:09 cait http://stats.workbuffer.org/its_a_bugs_life.html 17:27 * chris_n welcomes bug 7804 to the century club 17:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, In Discussion , Add Koha Plugin System 17:28 chris_n http://tinyurl.com/c2ybkcd 17:32 jcamins Ouch. 17:34 gaetan_B bye 18:02 MikeC Can someone tell me whether there were database schema changes from 3.08 to 3.10, please? 18:03 jcamins MikeC: yes, many. 18:03 jcamins updatedatabase takes care of them. 18:04 MikeC what about 3.09 to 3.10? Someone here decided to use the development branch for our last update. Now I'm being asked to "fix it." 18:05 jcamins MikeC: 3.9 was used for development versions leading up to 3.10. 18:05 jcamins updatedatabase will take care of that too. 18:07 MikeC fantastic. I'm building a brand new 3.10 box. If I do a sql dump on old box, and restore it to the new box, I can just run updatedatabase? 18:08 jcamins Yes. 18:08 jcamins Easy peasy. 18:08 MikeC wonderful! Thank you very much! 18:08 jcamins You're welcome. 18:14 chris_n did someone say "easy?" 18:15 jcamins chris_n: it is easy! 18:15 MikeC it was said. I am currently copying the sql file from old box to new box. 18:15 chris_n it? 18:15 * chris_n looks around for the bot 18:16 jcamins wahanui: hello 18:16 wahanui what's up, jcamins 18:24 drojf i still don't know what to answer to the person asking if they should change the default password of a live cd they are running in production. 18:25 slef drojf: "yes, but you're lost anyway and should really do a proper installation." 18:45 oleonard Hunh, I guess I did test Bug 9117 at some point, since I submitted a follow-up for it :P 18:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Reports hierarchies management improvements 18:45 * oleonard has been sleep-patching 19:11 NCAR_Lib Are you around, Galen? 19:11 NCAR_Lib Michael here... 19:11 oleonard gmcharlt? 19:11 wahanui gmcharlt is probably an expert in all things library technology. 19:11 gmcharlt hi NCAR_Lib 19:11 NCAR_Lib Oh hi. Our Koha instance seems to be down at the moment. 19:13 NCAR_Lib Is something amiss on your end? 19:13 gmcharlt NCAR_Lib: indeed; we're working on it and will have it back up shortly 19:13 NCAR_Lib Oh, ok. Thanks. Just shoot me an email when all is well again. 19:13 gmcharlt sure thing 19:43 MikeC Hi again. The updatedatabase script is failing because it cannot locate C4/Context.pm. The file exists at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm, so I assume it's an include folder issue. Where is that set? 19:44 jcamins faq? 19:44 wahanui somebody said faq was found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 19:44 jcamins You'll need to set your environment variables. 19:44 jcamins Somewhere on the FAQ are instructions for that. 19:44 jcamins export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib 19:44 jcamins And `export KOHA_CONF=/wherever/you/find/koha-conf.xml` 19:46 MikeC Thanks - reading FAQ now 19:58 chris_n after munging about a bit with python, I remember why it is that I hate snakes 19:59 jcamins lol 20:04 rangi morning 20:04 jcamins Morning. 20:04 wahanui Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. 20:04 cjh chris_n: is it because they don't have feet? 20:05 oleonard You know it's been a long day of testing when you want to stab updatedatabase.pl in the neck. 20:05 oleonard ...for varying values of "long" 20:06 jcamins oleonard: what did updatedatabase.pl do to you? 20:06 oleonard It presents me with conflicts, over and over and over 20:06 jcamins Ah. 20:06 jcamins Yes. 20:08 rangi wizzyrea: i talked with the hackfesters on irc last night about the sudoc icons 20:08 wizzyrea cool 20:08 wizzyrea what did they say? 20:08 rangi its not just dangerous, we simply cant include it, it is not compatible with the GPL 20:08 cjh ohhh non-commercial, ouch. 20:08 jcamins I reverted it. 20:08 wizzyrea there you have it 20:08 rangi thanks 20:09 rangi maybe biblibre can talk them into releasing it under a sane license 20:09 wizzyrea they probably don't know what exactly they are doing 20:10 jcamins :-O 20:10 oleonard Dear patch authors: If you introduce a new system preference in your patch, please divulge the name of this preference in your test plan. 20:10 jcamins [off] A major library organization that doesn't know what it's doing?!? Not possible! 20:13 drojf heh 20:14 jcamins [off] Not just not possible. _unpossible_ 20:16 cjh [off] if the sudoc icons made it into 3.12 alpha, we should probably repackage 20:17 jcamins cjh: drat. 20:17 jcamins Good call. 20:17 jcamins I'll do that later. 20:17 cjh I haven't checked if it's in there, but I thought it quicker to mention it than check. 20:17 jcamins It is. 20:19 drojf it will become a rare, sought-after version. they will call it "the one with the forbidden icons" 20:19 cjh heh 20:20 drojf it will be traded on the black market. as a live cd 20:20 cjh drojf++ 20:20 jcamins lol 20:20 chris_n hehe 20:20 chris_n cjh: its because they are silent and deadly 20:21 * chris_n is working with Inline::Python 20:23 cjh oh wow.. 20:41 slef anyone tried any of the distributed bug trackers? 20:42 jcamins Not me. 21:07 eythian hi 21:07 wahanui hello, eythian 21:08 eythian slef: they look interesting, I've been meaning to give them a go some time 21:26 alohabot Hi mib_mgp7zn, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 21:29 mib_mgp7zn 4dsdgsdg 21:30 jcamins Right on! 21:30 rangi heh 21:31 drojf what about we make mibbit go into #koha_test and the bot there says "if you actually read this, click on #koha"? :P 21:32 rangi heh 21:32 jcamins Heh. 21:36 jcamins I would be willing to include the RDA framework in 3.12, but only if there is a firm commitment from a *librarian* to test a patch adding it in the next week. 21:37 jcamins I'm not sure if it's worth responding or whether I should just ignore the thread. 21:37 drojf yay, not a librarian 21:37 rangi i just responded saying 21:37 cait it's too late... i am ignoring it for tonight 21:37 rangi just import the file from the wiki 21:38 rangi and then if someone actually figures out a way for RDA to actually be useful to a library user .. in 30 years time you will be all set 21:38 jcamins Well, yeah, that's the obvious solution. 21:40 jcamins But I am willing to make allowances for librarians' beliefs that they need someone else to do things for them. 21:41 rangi im over that ;-) im all "learn stuff" 21:41 jcamins Hey, my solution involved them learning things too. 21:42 rangi true 21:42 jcamins 'Cause of course there isn't a patch. 21:42 * jcamins noticed. 21:43 rangi yeah i couldnt be bothered doing one, cos after doing the framework i realised, this is stupid and pointless 21:43 rangi maybe for a brand new library 21:43 * jcamins doesn't blame you. 21:43 rangi with all of its records RDA 21:43 rangi you could do something 21:44 rangi but mix and match for the next 15 years 21:44 rangi blargh 21:44 rangi inconsistent display issues ftl 21:45 jcamins Heh. 21:45 jcamins Exactly. 21:45 jcamins Does the GPL/AGPL really require that *every* file include the license? 21:45 jcamins Because I feel kind of silly adding the exact same text to several dozen files when the majority are ~12 lines long. 21:46 rangi it doesn't require it, but it is nicer if that file gets pulled out by itself 21:46 jcamins Hm. 21:47 rangi i think debian packaging (for debian proper) might require it 21:54 jcamins Not really an issue for my other project at the moment. 21:59 drojf good night 21:59 wahanui I watch you sleep. 21:59 cjh heh 22:17 cait wizzyrea: around? 22:19 rangi shes at a meeting 22:23 cait ah ok :) 22:39 wizzyrea im back now - sup 22:42 cait hada question about a bu 22:42 cait g 22:42 cait but I think Imisread anyway 22:42 cait :) 22:42 wizzyrea oh, okies 22:42 cait bye #koha 22:42 wizzyrea bye :) 22:51 dcook Morning #koha 23:20 tcohen julian maurice 23:20 tcohen ' 23:20 tcohen ? 23:21 rangi he will be asleep its past midnight in france 23:22 tcohen tz, that bi*ch