Time Nick Message 02:04 gmcharlt wahanui: be wizzyrea 02:04 wahanui do you like my aspirational, irritatingly American, optimism? 02:35 jcamins lol 02:43 wajasu we 02:44 * wajasu migrates to packages on a cold winter's eve 02:48 * wajasu upgrading from Koha 3.01.00.145 to 3.11.00.001 02:50 wajasu not really a good idea. i wonder if i can change the update to only go to an earlier version. like maybe 3.10 or 3.8.5 02:51 wajasu got to remove biblio items. then runa script to rebuild auths from biblios. then save the DB, and load it in the biblio packages 10.2 03:23 druthb o/ 03:24 bgkriegel Hi druthb 03:24 druthb Hi, bgkriegel. :) 03:24 bgkriegel bad news, more "server error" messages on poolte :( 03:25 druthb So I understand. I'll be takin' a look at that this evening. 03:25 bgkriegel sorry :) 03:26 druthb not your fault! :) You translators are so awesome, and been so very patient with me! 03:26 druthb translators++ 03:26 druthb @karma translators 03:26 huginn druthb: Karma for "translators" has been increased 4 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 4. 03:26 bgkriegel hehe:) 03:27 druthb that's too low! 03:33 * druthb is being a crafty nerd tonight. 03:36 druthb bgkriegel: Every report of trouble I've had has been on 3.12. Are you having problems on 3.8/10 also, or are those workin'. 03:37 bag hey druthb 03:37 druthb hi, bag! :) 03:38 bag @karma druthb 03:38 huginn bag: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 180 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 179. 03:38 bag @karma bag 03:38 huginn bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8. 03:38 bag :D 03:38 bag @karma brendan 03:38 huginn bag: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. 03:39 bgkriegel druthb: logged in, click on My account, Server error, An error has occurred. Thank you for your patience. 03:39 druthb ew 03:40 bgkriegel that's new :) 03:40 bgkriegel normally is file permissions 03:41 druthb yes, it is. does that to me, too. 03:42 bgkriegel if I search for project, on 3.12 is permissions, "You do not have rights to access this translation project" 03:42 druthb Okay...now *that*, I think I know the problem. 03:43 bgkriegel Got it: "Error accessing None, Filesystem sent error: No space left on device" 03:43 bgkriegel you must ask for more space 03:43 druthb sure enough! 03:44 druthb bgkriegel++ 03:44 druthb (or move some crap somewhere else! 03:44 bgkriegel yeah 03:45 druthb okay...gonna take it down for a few. 03:45 druthb we've got a second partition, I'm gonna shift Pootle onto that; that's where the mysql DB already is. 03:46 bgkriegel how much space use translation files? 03:47 jcamins A lot! 03:48 druthb yah, they're enormous. 03:50 druthb bgkriegel: all right...give things a try? 03:52 bgkriegel well, seems all ok 03:52 bgkriegel (save for 3.12, don't have permissions on that project) :) 03:53 bgkriegel think I never have, I sent you an email asking 03:54 druthb got it. Wonder if there's a fast way to *copy* permissions. 03:55 bgkriegel perhaps in the database 03:55 bgkriegel some insert/update 03:55 bgkriegel i'll look 03:56 * wizzyrea1 waves 03:56 druthb hi, wizzyrea1! :) 03:57 wizzyrea1 sup 03:57 * druthb has her wiffle bat out, and is using it gently on the Pootle server 03:57 wizzyrea why be gentle 03:58 * druthb is a kind soul. 03:58 wizzyrea :) 04:05 druthb bgkriegel: You *should* have 3.12 permissions now. Check? 04:06 bgkriegel not yet :) 04:06 bgkriegel :( 04:06 * druthb grumbles. 04:06 druthb You have permission for everything at the "Spanish" level..and I *see* it on Spanish/3.12, but... 04:08 druthb ah-hah. now try? 04:08 bgkriegel yep 04:08 bgkriegel :) 04:08 druthb wahoo! 04:08 * druthb dances the funky chicken. 04:09 bgkriegel not so fast! :) 04:09 * druthb puts a mini-project on her list: Audit all the permission sets on Pootle, make sure they're like they should be. It's *messy* 04:09 druthb eh? 04:10 bgkriegel can see, but not same permissions. 04:10 bgkriegel on 3.10 OverviewNewsTranslateReviewPermissionsFiles 04:10 bgkriegel on 3.12 OverviewNewsTranslateReview 04:10 * druthb scritches her head. 04:11 druthb Hm. Try now? Should be the same 04:11 bgkriegel Hurra! 04:11 bgkriegel Yes :) 04:11 druthb Awesome. 04:11 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, druthb 04:12 * druthb puts INR40 in small coins in the jar. 04:12 bgkriegel but still don't show in my account. Enough for now 04:14 druthb "Settings" from My Account let you manipulate that quick-links page. 04:14 bgkriegel right 04:14 bgkriegel done 04:14 druthb :) 04:14 * druthb likes happy translators! 04:15 druthb translators++ 04:15 bgkriegel TM: not an easy job :) 04:16 druthb Nope. Lots of little frittery details to get right on this. Fortunately, it looks like Pootle will live in the same place for a while; that will help. 04:17 bgkriegel Yes. no need to move. But ask for more space :) 04:18 druthb Once I move the Pootle working directory, that solved the problem. The root partition is not-large, just need to set up some warnings to holler when logs get big. 04:18 druthb (and clean out the /tmp dir from time to time) 04:19 bgkriegel Great. Also, there are other things that can live in translate.k-c:manual, frameworks, xml's 04:20 bgkriegel there are many things to translate 04:20 druthb yah. My goal has been to get *more stuff* under Pootle control, and also smooth out the backend parts... 04:21 druthb like, separating language files from the main repo, then letting Pootle commit to a git repo on its' own from time to time. 04:21 bgkriegel yeah, read about that 04:22 druthb I'd also like to patch the Koha translation bits so you don't need those screwy file names! 04:22 bgkriegel hehe 04:24 druthb as much as jcamins would probably *love* for me to get that done for 3.12, I don't think that most of that will happen. *maybe*, though. 04:25 bgkriegel when 3.12 comes? 04:26 druthb In April. Things are a little bit wild for me right now; I'll be moving in a couple of weeks. But maybe I can squeeze in some time to get some of that accomplished. 04:27 bgkriegel too close 04:27 druthb Probably. With the feature freeze, he may not let me do that sort of massaging. 04:28 bgkriegel yes, probably not 04:30 druthb I could try batting my eyes at him, and tempting him with more of my salsa. 04:31 bgkriegel lol 04:32 bgkriegel it could work, he's talking much about food lately :) 04:32 druthb I am not much to look at, but my cooking is *amazing* 04:35 bgkriegel very good for you, and for those who enjoy it :) 04:35 druthb :) 04:36 * druthb may have to ship some internationally, to a few favorite translators. Or bring it to KohaCon. 04:37 bgkriegel could have a special session :) 04:37 druthb I am planning to present/lead a discussion, about where the translation bits go from here, and priorities and such. 04:38 jcamins May. 04:38 bgkriegel yes, mey 04:38 bgkriegel may 04:38 druthb May? Ooh. Then I might be able to sneak it in! 04:38 jcamins And, splitting the repo does not require any development, so that's not subject to the freeze. 04:39 druthb I may have to torque the /misc/translator/translate script a little, to adjust directories, etc. 04:40 jcamins Nah, step one involves putting all the po files in in a sub-module in the same place. Easy peasy. 04:41 * jcamins leaves to resume dish washing. 04:41 jcamins I successfully finished the brownie pie and cranberry coulis, and sliced 7 radishes. 04:42 jcamins It resulted in many dishes. 04:48 wizzyrea ok now I'm hungry 04:48 wizzyrea it's dinner time. 04:48 wizzyrea also you people should go to bed. 04:48 wizzyrea it's getting late. 04:49 bgkriegel yeah, 1:46 AM here 04:49 druthb 22:46. 04:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:55 bgkriegel bye 05:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #69: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/69/ 05:32 jenkins_koha * D Ruth Bavousett: updated translations for 3.10.3 05:32 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating DB version for release 05:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #276 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 05:51 mtj does anyone know of a patch to move the module dir from under the prog theme dir, in the opac 05:53 mtj … i guess ultimately it has no reason/need to be where it is, and should be moved one dir up? 06:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #276: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/276/ 06:09 jenkins_koha * D Ruth Bavousett: Updated translations for 3.8.10 06:09 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: 3.8.10 release notes 06:09 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Updating DB version for 3.8.10 release 06:16 wizzyrea mtj I do not know of such a thing but i agree it probably should be done. 06:32 wizzyrea i did a little work on ccsr - http://i.imgur.com/qNytA02.png 06:34 wizzyrea (thing one etc is because I wanted to style those menus without being logged in.) 06:37 mtj wizzyrea++ lookin' good 06:37 mtj ah yep ^^ 06:37 wizzyrea there are some weird inconsistencies in ccsr that make me feel a bit twitchy 06:38 mtj yeah, i personally think the magical dissapearing left column is a pain, as well as a feature :/ 06:38 mtj ie: the left opac-nav area 06:42 mtj the ccsr theme is def. easier on the eyes 06:42 mtj the colors are less jarring, its more generally 'soothing' , i think... 06:43 mtj no…, i *feel* :) 06:44 wizzyrea i like it, I think. the mobile side is fine I think 06:44 mtj the calming greys of ccsr sooth my tired nerdy eyes 06:44 wizzyrea but it looks a little... it looks like a lot of other things. 06:44 mtj no no wiz… you *feel* 06:44 wizzyrea sorry I FEEL 06:45 wizzyrea :) 06:46 mtj the genericness of the cssr theme is also a feaure too 06:47 wizzyrea well it doesn't have to be flashy. But not looking like every other thing is nice too. 06:49 mtj i have been meaning to have another whack at my koha-bootswatch thingy 06:49 mtj … now that the GPL3/bootstrap stuff has happened 06:49 wizzyrea bootstrap is what we're using in the intranet 06:49 wizzyrea oh right bootswatch :D 06:49 mtj http://bootswatch.com/ 06:49 wizzyrea yes, you should do that. 06:50 wizzyrea the colors in ccsr match those on bootswatch : 06:50 wizzyrea :/ 06:51 mtj hey… grey is the new black - on teh interweb-2.0 06:51 wizzyrea only 2.0? 06:52 mtj er.. no actually we are up to 4.12 here 06:52 mtj no, 5.12 even 06:54 mtj award-winning next gen. 5.12, for the enterprise 06:56 mtj see, once we add something like bootswatch to koha… we could then even start *removing* styling stuff from the koha templates 06:58 mtj that would be pretty satisfying 06:58 wizzyrea hehe yea 08:18 * Oak waves 08:19 Oak hello cait. 08:19 cait hi Oak 08:43 drojf good morning #koha 09:03 rangi bgkriegel++ #61 signoffs! 09:13 Oak bgkriegel++ 09:14 cait bgkriegel++ 10:12 magnuse bgkriegel++ 10:12 * magnuse waves 10:13 rangi hehe sssh he must have heard!! 10:14 rangi @karma bgkriegel 10:14 huginn rangi: Karma for "bgkriegel" has been increased 22 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 22. 10:14 bgkriegel :) 10:15 bgkriegel morning 10:17 cait morning bgkriegel :) 10:17 bgkriegel hi cait 10:18 magnuse hiya bgkriegel 10:18 bgkriegel hi magnuse 10:22 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "Cihuy! :) RT @kohails: #kohails Koha 3.10.3 released http://t.co/0vyY4OO3su" 10:23 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha 3.8.10 released http://t.co/nKqhP8s9Ov" 10:23 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Koha 3.10.3 released http://t.co/81IilTJibA" 10:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @27point7: "Va encore falloir revoir les trads.... Pootle des Danaïdes... RT @kohails #kohails Koha 3.10.3 released http://t.co/NE9SxrbRiT" 10:44 bgkriegel rangi, you sorted tcohen as "Arazi", he'll be happy to top the list (release notes) 11:10 rangi heh 11:57 jcamins Woohoo! 11:58 drojf Yay! 11:58 drojf what are we cheering for? 11:58 jcamins 3.10.3 and 3.8.10. 11:58 jcamins I'm thinking about muffins. 11:59 drojf muffins \o/ 11:59 drojf ;) 11:59 drojf no, new koha is cool too :) 12:00 drojf some names got messed up again in the relese notes 12:00 drojf release even 12:00 jcamins Frédéric? 12:00 drojf Marc VÃ©ron 12:00 jcamins Yeah... I don't understand what's wrong. 12:01 drojf oh yes, frederic too, and CÃ³rdoba 12:01 drojf weird 12:03 drojf i wonder what we are going to install at the workshop. or, if anything at all. i hope that apt caching worked :/ 12:05 jcamins drojf: you should test it. 12:06 drojf luckily somebody else had to set that up. that and an improvised LAN. it is going to be rather experimental ;) 12:06 magnuse a little bit of testing sounds like a good idea :-) 12:07 drojf i suppose the server was set up before the new versions came out 12:10 jcamins drojf: tell them to re-seed it by running an "apt-get install koha-common" through it. 12:11 jcamins After changing the settings to re-check the remotes, of course. 12:11 rangi utf8 weirdness in wordpress ill fix 12:12 jcamins rangi: yeah, but why is it _just_ release notes? 12:12 drojf jcamins: i think he chose an apt mirror. not sure, i send him the caching link too. we'll see. i wonder if i have enough disk space to set up the cache myself before i leave though 12:12 jcamins drojf: well, whatever he did, tell him to update it. :P 12:12 drojf :) 12:12 rangi cos the paste messed it up 12:12 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob_plain;f=misc/release_notes/release_notes_3_10_3.txt;h=ce36f50e334961cb12feaf78e647fe4121e828d5;hb=08496e9fa87fca6c1e21bc3169424ead03a13846 12:13 jcamins rangi: okay, so not a flaw with my revised release notes script? 12:13 rangi nope if you switch that to utf8 in your browser its fine 12:13 rangi and is fine in git itself 12:13 jcamins Ohh, I see now. 12:14 rangi will fix the ones on the site 12:16 rangi http://koha-community.org/koha-3-10-3-released/ 12:16 rangi fixed 12:16 jcamins Thanks! 12:16 rangi and 3.8.10 fixed now too 12:17 rangi cant fix the emails unfortunately 12:17 magnuse rangi++ 12:17 jcamins Heh. Definitely not. 12:18 magnuse oh, come one, how many email systems would you have to break into? how hard can it be? 12:18 magnuse ;-) 12:19 rangi heh 12:19 drojf nice html emails with iframes would do the trick 12:19 * drojf hides 12:19 magnuse lol 12:20 rangi heh 12:21 magnuse yeah, the world needs more iframes! 12:22 jcamins Actually, iframes are pretty cool... I had never realized that the only reason tinyMCE worked was because of an iframe. 12:23 drojf jcamins: does it cache only what i get via another computer or also what i install locally on the same machine? 12:25 jcamins Both. 12:26 drojf excellent 12:26 jcamins drojf: provided you tell the local machine about the cache. 12:26 jcamins (likewise, you have to tell the remove machines about the cache) 12:29 jcamins *remote 12:32 drojf thanks. looks like it is working, at least apt-get update does something. it does not find koha-community.rg, but that might be due to my typo ;) 13:04 drojf test 13:05 jcamins Reason number one billion to dislike Facebook: they DOS my server at 10:55pm every other day. 13:05 drojf have you found out more about it? 13:06 jcamins No. 13:06 jcamins I found out that I think on Monday I'm going to have to call and demand to talk to someone, because this is absurd. 13:09 jcamins o.O 13:09 jcamins I turned on the access logs. 13:09 jcamins I am now reviewing them. 13:09 jcamins I had assumed that what was going on was that at 10:55 a misbehaved spider started working. 13:10 jcamins Not so much... 13:10 drojf but? 13:10 jcamins This misbehaved spider just goes into overdrive at 10:55. 13:10 jcamins I have requests from these IP addresses about once per minute all day. 13:11 jcamins Oh-ho! Take it back. 13:11 jcamins There are two spiders. 13:11 jcamins One is behaving. 13:11 jcamins One is not. 13:12 jcamins The misbehaving one is only at around 10:55. 13:12 drojf someone is interested in you ;) 13:12 jcamins The other one sends approximately one request per minute. 13:13 drojf does that count as behaving? 13:14 jcamins Yes. 13:40 magnuse weird! 13:41 magnuse how long does the misbehaviour last? 13:41 magnuse can you block it at the firewall? 13:41 drojf have you setup a spider trap by accident? 13:44 jcamins magnuse: about five minutes, until my server gives up. 13:44 jcamins I'd prefer not to, because I don't want to break sharing things on Facebook. 13:45 magnuse jcamins: ah yes 13:45 magnuse is it always from the same ip? 13:45 magnuse ...just curious 13:45 jcamins There are about a dozen IPs. 13:46 * magnuse takes the dogs for a walk - will spend some more time trying to wrap up the digital signs afterwards 13:46 jcamins Woohoo! 13:46 jcamins magnuse++ 13:50 magnuse ooh, thanks 13:51 magnuse better be enthusiastic now, not sure you will be when (if) it reaches you after qa... ;-) 13:51 magnuse preview here: http://kohawip.libriotech.no/cgi-bin/koha/opac-sign.pl 13:51 magnuse or maybe you were enthusiastic about the dogs getting a walk... 13:52 drojf lol 13:52 jcamins The signs. 13:52 wahanui the signs are hopeful 13:52 magnuse hehe 13:52 magnuse thanks wahanui 13:55 magnuse gotta object orient the code, i guess. wish i could DBICify it... 14:03 drojf off to the workshop /o/ 15:02 druthb o/ 15:25 kata looks like 3.10.3 is released. if i pull koha-common from stable, are those packages ready yet? ETA? 15:26 jcamins No, and probably Monday or Tuesday, I'd think. 15:27 kata ok 15:53 * testdrojf waves 16:03 * druthb waves to testdrojf 16:05 * jcamins waves to both testdrojf and druthb while taking a break from crying over onions. 16:21 magnuse jcamins: don't cry over onions, they're not worth it 16:27 testdrojf lol 16:28 druthb magnuse++ 18:26 kata ok did packages install. used "-intra" as suffix. if library was my instance name, what URL should i use for the staff interface 18:43 jcamins library-intra.yourdomain.com 18:48 jcamins The gnocchi is just about done, andd the sauce is done. 18:48 jcamins *and 18:50 jcamins And, of course, I finished the soup several hours ago. 20:49 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @jsicot: "je ne suis pas fou l'outil d'import #kohails mangeait bien du marcxml avant ??" 21:52 testdrojf somebody here? :) 21:54 testdrojf acquisition question: how do i actually send an order? can i do that internally by email or do i have to print it and fax?