Time Nick Message 22:54 * dcook concurs 22:54 * jcamins proceeds to get "Seven-and-a-half cents" stuck in Shari's head. 22:52 bgkriegel :) 22:51 wizzyrea well obv ours is the best one :P 22:50 mib_vozrm0 what are some good irc chennals? 22:50 alohabot Hi mib_vozrm0, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 21:43 bgkriegel night cait 21:43 cait good night all :) 21:35 jcamins Hehe. 21:35 bgkriegel hacked-up already :) 21:34 jcamins + a bunch of fixes and a few enhancements from 3.8 and 3.10 21:34 jcamins bgkriegel: 3.6.10ish. 21:34 bgkriegel jcamins: what version are you running? 21:34 jcamins (which is to say, you can do it!) 21:34 Morthland Takes a while. 21:33 Morthland I submitted that patch. 21:33 jcamins All the patches I run are in _a_ version of Koha. 21:33 * jcamins does that. 21:33 rangi or better yet, submit patches :) 21:32 jcamins Well, not so much hacked-up as, I aggressively backport bugfixes. 21:32 Morthland Like when LCCN wasn't an available Z3950 query, we changed that script 21:32 * jcamins also runs a hacked-up version. 21:32 jcamins That's what I do. 21:32 rangi you can build your own packages 21:31 Morthland My only issue is that I run a hacked up version of koha. 21:29 jcamins The only one they don't handle is deciding whether or not to upgrade, in fact. 21:29 wizzyrea the packages do handle many of the more unpleasant upgrade tasks for you 21:29 Morthland This has been a much trickier upgrade then my upgrade from 3.2 to 3.8. I ought to switch to packages. 21:26 Morthland Thanks. 21:26 Morthland Gotchya 21:25 wizzyrea yep, now you need to hit the intranet and do your DB update 21:25 Morthland now I get forwarded to the maintenence page 21:24 jcamins Yes. 21:24 cait :) 21:24 Morthland is that the standard naming scheme for Perl Packages? 21:23 rangi is the name 21:23 rangi libdatetime-format-mysql-perl 21:23 Morthland I got Unable to locate package 21:22 rangi and debian security team (who ubuntu shamelessy use :)) 21:22 rangi packagers take care of that for you 21:22 rangi because if you use CPAN you have to remember to watch all the bug trackers and watch for security updates and upgrade etc 21:22 Morthland Good to know 21:22 rangi only use CPAN as utter last resort 21:22 rangi always apt-get install 21:21 rangi yes 21:21 Morthland if I apt-get install, will that fix? 21:21 Morthland Says the test is failing 21:21 Morthland It wont let me install the dependency 21:20 rangi thats where the packages rule :) they pull all those in for you 21:19 wizzyrea libdatetime-format-perl 21:19 wizzyrea yep, you probably need to install the new dependency 21:19 Morthland Can't locate DateTime/Format/MySQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Koha.pm line 30. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Koha.pm li 21:18 Morthland As of update to 3.10, receiving this error at opac: 20:52 bgkriegel yeah :) 20:52 wizzyrea always better when people can get help in their native language anyway :) 20:51 wizzyrea bgkriegel++ 20:51 bgkriegel Hi rangi. I wrote to him (in spanish) that his email was not understandable (was reading the irc logs) 20:51 rangi hi bgkriegel 20:47 bgkriegel hi 20:31 drojf my guess is "can i put my ebooks (as in files) into koha", but not sure 20:30 wizzyrea hehe 20:29 jcamins Heh. 20:29 rangi well maybe bgkriegel or tcohen will understand that email, because I dont 20:28 kathryn hi cait! 20:28 cait hi kathryn 20:25 cait wb 20:23 rangi back 19:05 cait bye rangi 19:05 * rangi goes to take the kids to school 19:05 cait yeah, I did so far 19:05 rangi so id ignore that 19:05 cait Morthland: I tink you only need that if you wanted to switch on solr 19:05 rangi thats not required anyway, just optional 19:04 Morthland Some of these dependencies I'm sure I have, MooseX::Types, for example. I guess they are just out of date 19:02 jcamins Ah, nifty. 19:01 rangi changed and not synced 19:01 cait it's a monday problem 19:01 * cait hands Morthland the cookie tin 19:00 Morthland It's listed a bunch of perl dependencies, I should install these before running make? 18:59 Morthland It' 18:59 jcamins Changed and... 18:59 jcamins rangi: "!?" ? 18:59 Morthland That fixed it 18:58 Morthland I'm running the flag --prev--instal--log 18:58 Morthland Facepalm 18:58 Morthland I see my problem 18:57 rangi will be prompted only for settings that have been 18:57 rangi Reading values from install log /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log. You 18:57 rangi 6307 koha:f5220e4!? % perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log 18:57 rangi heres what i get running it here 18:56 Morthland I'm running the command sudo 18:56 cait rangi: could it be something related to permissions? the file can't be read or something? 18:56 rangi no 18:56 Morthland should I move the file? 18:56 rangi right, so yep that looks ok 18:56 Morthland webmaster@LibraryServer 18:55 rangi what does it say for WEBMASTER_EMAIL ? 18:55 Morthland For 3.08.03 18:55 Morthland That's what I've got. 18:55 rangi (numbers and paths different) 18:54 rangi DB_TYPE=mysql 18:54 rangi LOG_DIR=/var/log/koha 18:54 rangi KOHA_INSTALLED_VERSION=3.10.02.000 18:54 rangi should look like 18:54 rangi open that file, what does it say? 18:54 cait I did run the make upgrade a little while back and it worked ok for me 18:54 rangi hmm, is that where a tarball install puts it? cos that looks like a package install location, but they might do the same 18:53 cait not sure then 18:53 cait hm 18:53 Morthland yes 18:53 cait /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log - is an existing file? 18:53 mib_k1ip5y I test this code but when i serch in z39.50 i can't use marc21 18:53 Morthland I'm afraid I don't catch your meaning. 18:52 cait s/patch/path 18:52 cait Morthland: and the patch is correct to the log? 18:52 cait Morthland: m that does not look right 18:52 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_planning_meeting,_19_February_2013 18:50 jcamins mib_k1ip5y: http://jai-on-asp.blogspot.com/2010/01/z3950-client-in-cnet-using-zoomnet-and.html 18:50 Morthland I see, "by default, Koha can be installed one of three ways, standard, single, dev 18:49 mib_k1ip5y you think about yaz ? 18:49 Morthland I Ctl-Ced out. Let me rerun it. 18:48 Morthland Yes, it is set to /usr/share/koha/misc/koha-install-log 18:48 cait Morthland: it asks 2 questions - for icu and dom - maybe that's what you see? 18:47 rangi morning 18:47 rangi heh 18:47 jcamins Morthland: you replaced /path/to/koha-install-log with the actual path? 18:47 rangi you did put the patch to the actual log eh? 18:47 jcamins Did you try searching Google for "z39.50 .net client"? Because I found the answer to your question on the first result of the first page. 18:47 Morthland it starts a fresh install 18:47 Morthland Following the upgrade instructions, when I run $ perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log 18:46 jcamins Right, but MarcEdit is written in .NET. 18:46 gaetan_B bye ! 18:46 vfernandes bye people :) 18:46 mib_k1ip5y I test it but I need more info about z39.50 18:44 jcamins Have you looked at how MarcEdit does it? 18:44 mib_k1ip5y I look for implement conection in .net but I can't find specification for this protocol 18:41 jcamins ^^ mib_k1ip5y 18:40 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 18:40 jcamins first question? 18:40 jcamins mib_k1ip5y: the answer to your question is probably either "Perl" or "C" but I don't understand your question. 18:39 cait the configuration is done in the gui - administration > z39.50 servers 18:38 mib_k1ip5y yes I know but in client side some code must conect witch server z39.50 18:35 jcamins Z39.50 is a protocol. 18:35 jcamins mib_k1ip5y: what do you mean? 18:34 mib_k1ip5y ? 18:34 mib_k1ip5y witch programing language is used to comunicate in z39.50 in koha 18:31 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Share your library cards with Chris http://t.co/mmLMJukj" 18:31 cait yep :) 18:28 maximep oh, that's a cool new bot 18:27 mib_k1ip5y helo 18:26 alohabot Hi mib_k1ip5y, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 18:22 jcamins There's a guide somewhere on the wiki. 18:22 jcamins You can switch from non-packages to packages, but it's not quite as simple. 18:22 * Brooke is still grateful for packages + Ubuntu. So there :P 18:22 Morthland Will it be a problem if I installed it without packages to use the package update? 18:22 Brooke for yea, Ubuntu is teh awesome. 18:22 jcamins Wait, actually, I'm using Debian in production again. Ubuntu angered me. 18:22 Brooke and I am pleased that this has come to pass 18:21 jcamins I use the packages on Ubuntu. 18:21 jcamins Nope. 18:21 Brooke packages_+_Ubuntu++ 18:21 Morthland Oh. I thought you had to be running Debian 18:21 jcamins No, there's a file called INSTALL.debian (which you read even for Ubuntu). 18:21 Morthland ? 18:21 Morthland You mean the end of the install file on the wiki 18:21 jcamins Packages work fine on Ubuntu. 18:20 Morthland I'm on ubuntu, so no packages. 18:18 jcamins "Enjoy." 18:18 jcamins "Reindex." 18:18 jcamins "Wait." 18:18 jcamins "Install new version." 18:17 jcamins If you're using packages, it's even simpler. 18:17 jcamins Morthland: look at the end of the install file. 18:17 Morthland I seem to recall it being real simple last time, but I cant find the documentation now] 18:14 Morthland Is there a guide to update Koha some where? I need to move from 3.8 to 3.10/ 18:14 jcamins lol 18:14 Brooke ack 18:13 jcamins o/ 18:13 Brooke o/ 17:31 mib_vi5nnw having any soution 17:31 mib_vi5nnw autoemailopacuser not working 17:30 mib_vi5nnw hi 17:30 alohabot Hi mib_vi5nnw, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 17:11 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Share your library cards with Chris http://t.co/xNcNCTBa #kohails" 16:39 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Screencasts for Koha Bug/Ticket Reporting http://t.co/bMLBXm49" 16:27 kf but it easy to forget to turn it off.... 16:27 jcamins Ah. 16:27 kf it is good when you wnat to do bulk changes 16:27 kf in our ticket system... it means my answer went nowhere 16:26 jcamins What's stealth mode? 16:25 kf *sigh* stealth_mode-- 16:23 jcamins (i.e. two patches on the one bug) 16:22 jcamins If it will make your patch easier to understand, go ahead and refactor in a different patch. 16:22 jcamins Hehe. 16:22 * tcohen runs away just in case 16:21 tcohen ok, i won't refactor code then :-P 16:20 jcamins http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Switch-Statements 16:19 jcamins Let me find the bug with the discussion. 16:19 jcamins use Switch is deprecated, and given/when is considered "experimental" 16:18 jcamins We like for () statements. 16:18 tcohen jcamins, do we like switch statements in koha code? 16:18 jcamins Aww. 16:17 sekjal jcamins: Musicbrainz for now, but I'll want to make full metadata records out of the ID3 tags (as well as authority entries for artists) 16:17 jcamins sekjal: in Koha? :) 16:17 * sekjal is cataloging his music, and trying not to freeze 16:13 sekjal hi, kf! 16:13 * kf waves at sekjal 16:12 sekjal it'd be really awesome to see everyone 16:12 bag good great awesome! 16:12 sekjal would need to figure out the funding and time off from work, though 16:12 sekjal bag: considering it; got it on my calendar 16:10 reiveune bye 16:10 bag sekjal: that most important question… Thinking about going to Reno? 16:10 bag sounds interesting 16:09 sekjal a dark brown ale with cinnamon. tastes like raisin bread 16:09 jcamins What kind did you make? 16:09 bag nice nice - I just did a maple brown yesterday 16:08 sekjal bag: beer #4 turned out really, really well! 16:08 * jcamins is using PHP to write a cataloging system right now... first time in about a decade that I did something with PHP. 16:07 sekjal but if I want to modify/understand some else's code, guess I need to learn it 16:07 sekjal yeah... Code4Lib is huge on RoR, but I just can't get into it. I have Perl and PHP, and that'll do pretty much anything I need 16:06 jcamins sekjal: like in Bourne shell? Weird. 16:06 sekjal hey, bag! 16:06 sekjal in Ruby 16:06 sekjal oh, and 0 evaluates to true 16:06 bag hey sekjal 16:06 sekjal no, we just did a very basic intro using the RailsBridge materials 16:05 jcamins sekjal: did they give you any hints on how to prevent libraries spontaneously becoming incompatible? 16:04 sekjal got an intro to Ruby on Rails, though 16:04 jcamins I could really use it, too. 16:04 jcamins Aww. 16:04 sekjal no, I don't think that was discussed this year, not even in a lightning talk 16:03 jcamins 'Cause that would be really useful! 16:03 jcamins Does one of them give you more than 24 hours in a day? 16:03 sekjal going pretty well. just got back from Code4Lib, and have lots of exciting projects to consider 16:02 jcamins How are things at UMass? 16:00 * chris_n shakes his fist at canonical 15:59 sekjal hi, jcamins 15:59 jcamins Greetings, sekjal! 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on the printers administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9645 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on the quotes management page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9644 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the suggestions management page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9643 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the road types administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9642 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the patron attribute types administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the Koha news management page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on record matching rules page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9639 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on MARC tag structure toolbar with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9637 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on local use system preferences page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9636 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on labels pages with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9635 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on label batches pages with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9633 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the itemtypes administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9646 - Replace YUI button on the printers administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9645 - Replace YUI buttons on the quotes management page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on the currencies administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9644 - Replace YUI button on the suggestions management page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9643 - Replace YUI button on the road types administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on classification sources administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9642 - Replace YUI button on the patron attribute types page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9641 - Replace YUI button on the Koha news management page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9640 - Replace YUI button on record matching rules page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9639 - Replace YUI button on MARC tag structure toolbar with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on cities and towns administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9637 - Replace YUI button on local use system preferences page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9636 - Replace YUI buttons on labels pages with Bootstrap 15:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9629 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on patron category administration pages with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9635 - Replace YUI buttons on label batches pages with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9633 - Replace YUI button on the itemtypes administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9632 - Replace YUI button on the currencies administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9631 - Replace YUI buttons on classification sources administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9630 - Replace YUI button on cities and towns administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9629 - Replace YUI button on patron category administration page with Bootstrap 15:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1053: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1053/ 15:43 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @YvesTomic: "La connexion à Youtube est désormais intégrée à Biblio+ : le service propose des vidéos sur le même sujet du document affiché.#koha #kohails" 15:24 jcamins Yes. 15:24 tcohen should I fill another bug for this one? 15:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports 15:24 tcohen i was revisiting the code to start writing for bug 9634 15:23 tcohen heh 15:23 jcamins What about both? 15:22 jcamins Ah, true. 15:22 tcohen or simply havea typo 15:22 jcamins Someone might copy a report off the wiki before creating the authorized values. 15:22 jcamins Hm. I think probably on running. 15:21 tcohen what do u think jcamins? 15:20 tcohen the user should be warned when saving, or when about to run, not sure 15:20 tcohen i've found that if you write a SQL report calling an undefined authorised_value the GUI shows an empty dropdown menu 15:19 jcamins About what? 15:19 tcohen do we have a way to warn the user on the GUI? 14:50 kf ah ok 14:50 jcamins kf: there was a syspref update. 14:45 drojf heh 14:45 kf fast 14:45 kf you will get poor fust 14:45 * drojf puts 5€ into the bad pun jar 14:44 drojf too many buttons pushed 14:44 kf what, unstable?? 14:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #1053 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1051 2 days 23 hr ago) 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9628 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons and menus on budgets administration pages with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9627 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons and menus on serials pages with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on reports dictionary page with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9623 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on authority types administration page with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI button on MARC frameworks page with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9621 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI menu on lists pages with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9619 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on libraries administration page with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9616 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI menu on patrons page with Bootstrap 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9628 - Replace YUI buttons and menus on budgets administration pages with Bootstrap 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9627 - Replace YUI buttons and menus on serials pages with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9648 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace YUI buttons on authorized values administration page with Bootstrap 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9624 - Replace YUI button on reports dictionary page with Bootstrap 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9623 - Replace YUI button on authority types administration page with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9395 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Pushed to Master , Problem with callnumber and standard number search in OPAC and Staff Client 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9622 - Replace YUI button on MARC fameworks page with Bootstrap 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9621 - Replace YUI menu on lists pages with Bootstrap 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9619 - Replace YUI buttons on libraries administration page with Bootstrap 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9616 - Replace YUI menu on patrons page with Bootstrap 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9648 - Replace YUI buttons on authorized values administration page with Bootstrap 14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve OAI management interface 14:42 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9395: Increment version number 14:42 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 9395: Problem with callnumber and standard number searches 14:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8906: Followup replace 'Clear' with 'Delete' 14:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8906: Followup FIX hardcoded localhost url 14:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8906 - Improve OAI management interface 14:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1052: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1052/ 14:30 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "[EN] A month from now : the HackFest Koha at #BibLibre - http://t.co/gX1Ztrwy #HFK13 #kohails" 14:28 kf paul_p: hm I will ask him :) 14:24 kf paul_p: I see dpavlin will be around? what about mglavica? 14:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9646' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f4069fb8ac37cf6fd9fcc5ebacac5176c31079f> / Bug 9646 - Replace YUI button on the printers administration page with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9deb165db1912c58bd085b46bf7f6ac7c9867e5> / Merge branch 'bug_9645' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha. 14:22 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @kohails: "#kohails À un mois de la HackFest Koha... http://t.co/elYlRJIP" 14:22 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 14:22 kf @later tell oleonard we need more patches! :) 14:19 tcohen thanks jcamins 14:19 kf drojf: cool 14:19 jcamins Not a word character. 14:19 tcohen what did \W meant in perl regexpt? 14:14 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 16.0°C (11:00 AM ART on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 14:14 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 14:14 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @BibLibre: "Bilan à un mois de la HackFest Koha à #BibLibre - http://t.co/zXFXn8RH #HFK13 #kohails" 13:39 drojf [off] have been to a meeting with a professor, all fine so far. and my water is back already 13:38 kf hey drojf - how is your homework? 13:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #1052 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:35 drojf back 13:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9628' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d7063ff03c0c950e127eef75af70f02644c1a18> / Bug 9628 - Replace YUI buttons and menus on budgets administration pages with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b648c94f936798b8f38a937b791c921da6c805f> / Merge branch 'bug_9627' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? 13:32 tcohen morning #koha 12:54 vfernandes ok thanks kf 12:54 kf there only Policy was translated 12:54 kf acquisitions.pref Policy 12:53 kf I think I assument something was missing 12:53 kf it's translated Erwerbung in german, which means acuisitions 12:53 kf hm funny 12:52 kf let me check german 12:52 kf so maybe you translate that directly 12:52 kf there is no # in it 12:52 kf hmm would have to check that one 12:52 vfernandes ? 12:52 vfernandes acquisitions.pref is translated to "" 12:51 kf vfernandes: it shoudl be easy to fix 12:51 kf so the comments with the syspref name in front make it strings stay close together 12:51 kf po files are ordered alphabetically, but syspref translation alphabetically woudl be quite a nightmare - because you are puzzling together sentences 12:51 vfernandes ok... i'll edit the po files 12:50 kf yeah, the comments are there so they stay in order 12:50 vfernandes really? :/ 12:50 kf look at other languages if you want to see what I mean :) german or french 12:50 kf the command is the same, only have to translate them in pootle a bit differently 12:50 vfernandes perl translate install pt-PT 12:49 kf so delete all constructs like acquisitions.pref#OrderPdfFormat# from the translated strings 12:49 vfernandes ohhh :D which is the command to translate? 12:49 kf you leave out the comment part at the beginning 12:49 kf the pref files are a bit different than other files to translate 12:49 kf no :) 12:49 vfernandes kf it's suppose appear "acquisitions.pref#OrderPdfFormat#" in the preferences translations? 12:48 kf it always came around after a bit 12:48 kf not sure what's up, maybe rangi can take a look at it tonight? 12:48 kf ithas been slow and a bit .... unstable for me since yesterday afternoon 12:46 marcelr timing out now 12:46 jcamins rangi is still here, so the server isn't down. 12:46 marcelr :) 12:46 jcamins Well, as long as it's not me. 12:45 marcelr jcamins_away: hi and yes 12:44 jcamins_away Is anyone else having trouble accessing bugs.k-c.org? 11:33 vkm ok 11:32 kf the max holds in circ matrix is not fully implemented 11:32 kf vkm: check bugzilla with the keyword maxreserves 11:31 vkm because my hold limit always picks from system preference 11:31 vkm hello is it necessary to make hold limit nil in system preference if it is already set in circulation privilege different for different users group 11:24 kf np hope it works 11:24 vfernandes maybe... thanks kf for all the help :) 11:23 kf it might be the files on pootle were not based on your completed files 11:23 kf and then run the command, it just does what the translation manager does :) 11:23 kf you have to be on a master branch when you run it, just put the complete 3.10 files in the po directory 11:22 kf maybe worth a try to see if there is a mistake 11:22 vfernandes okay... now i can't do that... but later i will test it 11:22 kf and compare that to the one in pootle 11:22 kf and run perl translate update <langcode> on it 11:22 kf get a 3.10 staff po file 11:21 kf so what I wanted to suggest to you for a test 11:21 kf Portughese is quite a bit lower 11:21 vfernandes 76%? damn that's nice :) 11:21 kf vfernandes: see here for German - updates from a complete 3.10: http://translate.koha-community.org/de/312/ 11:20 kf hm additional languages? 11:20 wahanui languages are just tools, you should pick the right one for the right job 11:20 kf languages? 11:20 wahanui i heard on the wiki was more information about the packages 11:20 kf and on the wiki 11:20 kf if I wrote you it's probably in the archives somewhere 11:20 kf well it's strange because the percentage of german is much higher 11:19 vfernandes i remember your email but saidly I deleted it :/ 11:18 vfernandes yes... 11:17 kf you said you got a complete translation of 3.10? 11:17 kf (low translation percentage compared between 3.10 and 3.12) 11:17 kf but you were gone by the time that I got to answer you 11:17 kf vfernandes now I remember - I was wondering about your low percentage in the po files 11:17 kf oh 11:17 kf and run: perl translate install <langcode> 11:17 kf just change into the misc translator dirctory 11:16 kf no, don't do that :) 11:16 kf ah 11:16 vfernandes one question: which is the correct way to apply translations? before I was runnig the script tmpl_proccess 11:09 vfernandes yes, I think that will be the correct aproach 11:09 kf I think they were blocked mostly becuse he signed off and it was unimarc 11:09 kf hm I will test and maybe set to signed off - then jonthan could take another look 11:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Signed Off , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets 11:09 vfernandes of bug 9341? i've created a new clean branch and changed the files again, but the changes are the same 11:08 kf I noticed that jonathan's sign off got lost and wonder how the best way to deal with it now is 11:08 kf in the patch :) 11:07 vfernandes in what kf? 11:06 kf did you have to change a lot? 11:06 vfernandes but you are testing right :) 11:06 vfernandes When I had submitted those patches there wasn't patch submitting codelines 11:05 kf vfernandes: hope I am testing right, but they looked safe and I am testing in an unimarc installation 11:05 kf vfernandes: :) 11:03 vfernandes they will be a very nice improvement for UNIMARC implementations 11:02 vfernandes it's nice to see my UNIMARC patches pass QA 11:02 vfernandes thanks kf, kf++ 11:01 kf vfernandes: I will try again then :) 10:46 vfernandes done :) let me put the other patches obsolete 10:41 vfernandes i'll upload a new patch 10:41 vfernandes ok... 10:36 kf a clean master branch, no other changes in between, that could be a reason too for the problem I think 10:35 kf if you could update your branch witht he patches to latest master and resend them, that might help 10:35 kf it didn't apply for me 10:35 kf sorry, got distracted 10:35 kf oh 10:29 vfernandes tell me what I need to do... 10:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9341 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Patch doesn't apply , Problem with UNIMARC authors facets 10:28 vfernandes hi... bug 9341 10:21 kf yes 10:19 vfernandes kf are you here? 10:19 vfernandes hello :) 09:39 magnuse paul_p: nice! always good to sit next to an empty seat! 09:34 huginn kf: Quote #83: "<wizzyrea> you can watch the sunrise around the world in #koha" (added by druthb at 06:29 PM, July 13, 2010) 09:34 kf @quote random 09:33 huginn rangi: Quote #21: "<owen> I think we need more quotes!" (added by jdavidb at 04:18 PM, August 06, 2009) 09:33 rangi @quote random 09:26 kf hope I will get that lucky on my way to marseille 09:26 kf sounds like perfect travel 09:26 kf :) 09:26 paul_p magnuse yes, good journey, flights on time, nothing lost, not waiting too long at borders/security controls. and, best of all : no-one sitted on my right in the plane, good for having more room for my legs ! 08:54 kf hi paul_p 08:51 magnuse had a godd journey? 08:51 magnuse bonjour paul_p 08:51 marcelr hi paul_p 08:51 paul_p good morning #koha. (I'm back to BibLibre office, so it's still morning ;-) ) 08:41 rangi heh 08:39 kf [off] i checked for the ones I send you - not in koha 08:39 rangi hehe i dunno if any of the cards are live :) 08:37 marcelr hi rangi 08:36 magnuse rangi: i'll see what i can do too 08:36 drojf rangi: do people send you empty cards, or do you get actual accounts too? :) 08:31 * kf whispers marcelr 08:30 rangi rijksmuseum even 08:30 * rangi wonders if the rijkmuseum have library cards ? :) 08:21 kf :) 08:21 marcelr :) 08:21 rangi marcelr++ 08:21 kf no idea 08:20 rangi what does that even mean? 08:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9657 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED INVALID, New catalog in Koha 08:20 rangi hmm bug 9657 08:06 marcelr hi drojf gaetan_B 08:06 gaetan_B hello 08:04 wahanui privet, asaurat 08:04 asaurat hi 08:02 drojf hi marcelr 08:00 magnuse hiya marcelr 08:00 marcelr hi magnuse 07:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9498 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Update encoding for Norwegian sample Z39.50 servers 07:53 magnuse bgkriegel++ for signing off bug 9498 07:51 * cait runs out 07:51 cait thx :) 07:51 marcelr cait++ for qa 07:51 marcelr hi cait 07:50 cait and bbl :) 07:50 cait morning marcelr 07:50 marcelr hi koha 07:50 magnuse :-) 07:49 cait why do you always see your typos while bugzilla is saving it already? :( 07:48 reiveune hi cait, magnuse :) 07:48 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:48 reiveune hello 07:46 alex_a salut cait magnuse :) 07:39 cait hi alex_a 07:39 magnuse kia ora alex_a 07:39 wahanui niihau, alex_a 07:39 alex_a bonjour 07:37 cait instead of moving it 07:37 cait maybe we could do something with a big miror 07:36 cait it's big,.... we will need a long ladder too 07:36 cait heh 07:36 dcook All right. Finally turning in for the night. Ta, #koha! 07:30 drojf lol 07:30 drojf [off] | Sun Transportation Services | Email CEO @suntransportation.com 07:30 magnuse pf, stretch out your arm and you can probably cover all of it with your thumb. how big can it be? 07:29 cait lol 07:28 drojf maybe i can find a company that specializes in sunsportation services. they will know better how to deliver it 07:28 cait but it looks kinda big 07:27 cait if you pay for the postage... 07:26 drojf i thought you could fedex it? 07:26 cait do you come by to collect it? 07:26 cait ok deal 07:24 drojf i'll take your sun if that helps your head 07:24 drojf aaaw. that sun people talk about. what does it look like? :) 07:24 cait and I have headache because it probably wasn't supposed to be so nice so fast 07:23 cait and I cansee some sun 07:23 cait snow has thawed here 07:23 drojf 0-8°. so i guess snow in the night, rain and mud by day 07:23 magnuse snow and +8? 07:20 drojf and rain and snow :D 07:19 drojf ha, up to 8° at the end of the month 07:18 magnuse [off] ouch! 07:18 drojf [off] water in the house is turned off for some maintenance. for 10h! wtf. yeah for working at home :/ 07:17 magnuse they promise us +5 in a few days 07:15 drojf lol 07:15 magnuse hey konstanz = bodø! 07:15 drojf we only change between light grey and dark grey 07:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 07:15 magnuse @wunder boo 07:15 drojf "clear". i would like that 07:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 07:15 magnuse @wunder konstanz 07:15 magnuse ooh nice 07:15 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 8.0°C (8:00 AM CET on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 07:15 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:14 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 1.4°C (7:43 AM CET on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 07:14 magnuse @wunder berlin, germany 07:14 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 07:14 magnuse @wunder berlin 07:14 drojf hei magnuse 07:14 drojf hi cait 07:14 magnuse moin drojf 07:14 drojf good morning #koha 07:14 magnuse nengard++ for volunteering 07:14 cait morning drojf 07:12 cait ! 07:12 magnuse i'm actually going to dedicate next weekend to that 07:11 magnuse i should try and get the digital signs ready for submission 07:10 magnuse gah! too true! 07:10 cait and scary because it means we are done with that versionso soon! 07:09 cait that's super cool 07:09 cait hehe 07:09 magnuse 4 weeks/1 month until marseille 07:09 cait morning magnuse 07:09 magnuse hiya cait 07:08 cait hi magnuse :) 07:08 * magnuse waves 06:12 bigbrovar . 05:52 * dcook goes back to looking at opac tags 05:52 cait that's the other side :) 05:52 * dcook realizes that he's actually been sitting at his desk for way too long 05:49 cait um... 05:49 dcook I only include the ;) because I just realized that I was at work the whole time you were sleeping O_o. You don't sleep enough :p 05:49 dcook Good sleep? ;) 05:41 cait hi dcook :) 05:40 dcook hi cait :) 04:43 alohabot Hi mib_lc60qq, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 04:31 dcook Aha! http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client 04:30 dcook or "perl install xx-XX", I suppose? 04:30 dcook from the misc/translator directory? 04:30 dcook translate install xx-XX? 04:30 dcook How does one generate templates from PO files again? 04:19 schnydszch tnx <rangi> 04:10 dcook For once, librarian humour that I don't actually get :p 04:06 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #220: "jcamins: Facebook may not like unspecified relationships, but rare books catalogers do!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:41 PM, October 19, 2012) 04:06 gmcharlt @quote random 04:03 wizzyrea later peps 03:32 * rangi has to go 03:30 rangi you need -x 03:30 rangi hmm no -w 03:30 rangi thats right 03:27 schnydszch <rangi> add -k to -b -w -v? 03:27 schnydszch <rangi> add -k to -b -w- -v? 03:25 dcook mtj: I think you're right. Nothing like writing up a "new" secret code and then selling access to it for an arm and a leg 03:25 rangi that will not delete the records then you can look in /tmp and see what it looks like exported 03:24 rangi that looks ok, you could try running the rebuild with -k 03:24 schnydszch the one in mibpaste is the marcxml of my record, could there be something wrong? 03:23 schnydszch <wizzyrea> coz i see in the conversation you're talking about interesting topic RDA :) 03:22 * wizzyrea giggles 03:22 wahanui wizzyrea: The rolling stones concert down the road caused a brown out 03:22 wizzyrea excuse? 03:22 schnydszch http://mibpaste.com/BxaCVg 03:22 schnydszch <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <record xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim http://www.loc.gov/standards/marcxml/schema/MARC21slim.xsd" xmlns="http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim"> <leader>00468nam a2200169Ia 4500</leader> <controlfield tag="008">110402s9999 xx 03:20 rangi have a look at the marcxml column of biblioitems for that record 03:20 schnydszch actually I also got this yesterday I think. there could be something wrong with my record? but I can't figure it out 03:20 schnydszch i run -b -w -v 03:19 wahanui schnydszch: Failure to adjust for daylight savings time. 03:19 schnydszch excuse me koha community, what does this mean: Error exporting record 93569 (biblio) XML at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl line 395 03:18 mtj i think the people that are really excited about RDA are the trainers and documentation publishers 03:18 dcook I mean yours, rangi :p 03:15 dcook Mmmm, great blog post 03:15 dcook They said, "You don't understand. The robots are our friends." 03:14 dcook http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/11/why-people-really-love-technology-an-interview-with-genevieve-bell/265596/ 03:14 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2004/03/31/the-m-in-marc-is-for-mental/ 03:14 dcook Agreed. Poor humans.. 03:14 dcook AACR2 and MARC are already conflated more than enough as it is... 03:14 rangi exactly 03:14 rangi yeah 03:14 dcook It's like the whole "don't submit a patch with whitespace changes" 03:13 dcook I also dislike how RDA tries to combine AACR2 changes and MARC changes 03:13 rangi no human should ever have to see it 03:13 dcook On the other hand, MARC is...MARC 03:13 rangi yep 03:13 dcook individual institution = special library 03:13 dcook Until they had to migrate their data...that's when MARC came in super handy 03:13 dcook Je ne sais pas...on one hand, I've used non-MARC systems that worked great for that individual institution 03:11 dcook She knew it well ;) 03:11 rangi :) 03:11 dcook I brought up that xkcd as well actually :p 03:10 * dcook loves that quote 03:10 huginn rangi: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 03:10 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 03:10 rangi @quote get 123 03:10 dcook There were quite a few "yeah, I know it would be better if...but..." 03:09 dcook I was hanging out with a friend the other night and trying to explain library technology. 03:09 dcook truer words, eh? 03:07 rangi confusing them is what got us into this mess :) 03:06 rangi storage mechanism, should not be entry or display 03:06 rangi and therein lies in the ENTIRE problem 03:06 dcook No doubt, wahanui. No doubt... 03:06 rangi and that sentence makes sense 03:06 rangi s/creation/storage/ 03:06 wahanui it has been said that the is a stop word 03:06 dcook what the... 03:06 wizzyrea hehe 03:05 rangi im pretty sure the cataloguers had some part to play 03:05 rangi thats not how i remember it 03:05 rangi The MARC standard is responsible for the creation of millions of bibliographic records from all parts of the globe. 03:05 rangi thats funny 03:05 * dcook now recalls some of the arguments on the bibframe listserv 03:05 rangi http://bibframe.org/contribute/ 03:05 dcook Ahhh 03:04 rangi http://bibframe.org/ 03:04 * dcook knows he gets the bibframe emails and stores them somewhere... 03:04 dcook Well, they were pretty excited about bibframe too :p 03:03 rangi you wait until they start getting excited about bibframe instead 03:03 wizzyrea :) so mostly I think, it's just a long awaited snooze of a change 03:02 wizzyrea it took AGES to figure out 03:02 dcook hehe 03:02 dcook Myself and some classmates had a hard time seeing the benefit of RDA when an RDA trainer did a seminar for one of our classes in 2011 03:02 wizzyrea because it's NEW and EXCITING and DIFFERENT 03:01 dcook I know a few librarians who seem to be pretty into RDA. I must make a note to ask them questions about why they use it again... 03:01 dcook True enough 03:00 rangi but you can 03:00 rangi no one knows why you'd want to 03:00 rangi if you have the framework you can tick the box 02:59 * dcook agrees with wizzyrea 02:59 dcook I do like the FRBR idea, but that doesn't seem to be anywhere yet either 02:59 * wizzyrea suspects they don't either 02:59 rangi exactly 02:59 dcook I don't know "why" people want it 02:59 dcook True, so far everyone seems to be asking yes or no questions 02:59 rangi but it is pointless 02:59 rangi seriously it was just to prove to the nat lib that storing rda isnt hard 02:59 rangi there is yet to be someone who needs it though 02:58 rangi yep 30 mins 02:58 dcook Is that "if" someone needed it, there is still work to do 02:58 dcook But that's my point ;) 02:58 dcook True 02:58 rangi if that provided any value at all 02:58 dcook Admittedly, carrier type, content type, media type do seem a bit...redundant 02:58 rangi with about 5 mins work we could 02:58 dcook So we can't really search them yet 02:58 rangi cos no one is going to know the jargon 02:57 rangi because you'd have to make a whole new dropdown to search them 02:57 rangi they aren't yet 02:57 dcook How are they indexed? 02:57 dcook Fair enough 02:56 rangi if we store it, we can search it 02:56 rangi but i couldnt figure out any way to use display them in any useful fashion so someone else can 02:56 dcook Mmm, with the xslt 02:56 dcook Search it? 02:56 dcook subfields* 02:56 dcook All the fields in 338 have a max length of 0 02:56 dcook Your framework needs a little edit ;) 02:56 dcook But that's why we have item types :/ 02:56 rangi and search it 02:56 rangi so you could store it 02:56 dcook They do seem like they could be useful as search limiters...maybe 02:56 rangi thats why i did the framework 02:56 rangi exactly 02:55 dcook Agreed 02:55 dcook For reading by machines rather than people. 336, 337, 338 definitely look like they're for librarians 02:55 rangi yep 02:55 dcook This page (http://www.loc.gov/marc/RDAinMARC.html) mentionst that MARC already contained most of these codes 02:55 rangi it doesnt provide any value to me as a library user at all 02:55 dcook Good point, rangi 02:55 rangi thats my whole beef with RDA 02:55 rangi you are doing it wrong 02:55 rangi but if you are cataloguing for librarians 02:54 wizzyrea if you know what to do with it I'm sure a patch would be welcome 02:54 dcook Although lookings at 336, 337, 338...I could see them as being additions to the extent 02:54 rangi cept maybe some librarians 02:54 rangi because currently the data is of no value at all to any user 02:54 dcook There is that ;) 02:54 rangi yes, whenever anyone figures out what to do with them 02:54 dcook Typically by non-users 02:54 dcook That's what I mean though. It needs to be customized. 02:54 rangi you can use custom xslt, you can pick what xslt you want, in the sysprefs 02:54 dcook Well, the RDA framework that you put up does include more tags (like 336, 337, 338), but these needs to be manually added to the XSLTs or the TT templates need to be updated to show this information 02:52 rangi in what way? 02:52 dcook The more I look at RDA, the more I think that Koha can't actually handle it without editing 02:51 dcook Yeah, I saw rangi's post about frameworks, although I'm not quite sure that it's entirely correct 02:51 wizzyrea xls?? xsl. 02:51 wizzyrea They probably need to be added to the xlst stylesheets 02:51 libsysguy or I think rangi had a similar post 02:50 libsysguy probably tuesday 02:50 libsysguy when she is around 02:50 libsysguy you'd probably have to ask talljoy 02:50 libsysguy dcook 02:50 dcook Unless perhaps one is using XSLT? 02:50 dcook While a RDA framework will show RDA tags in the cataloguing module, it won't show them on any templates, right? 02:49 dcook bag, khall, libsysguy: Can you explain this blog post to me a bit? http://bywatersolutions.com/2013/02/08/rda/ 02:30 schnydsch <bgkriegel> other biblio records with the same title are the results, but i cannot find the exact title 02:29 bgkriegel bye 02:20 bgkriegel schnydsch: if you search for the title, get no results? 02:18 schnydsch i did what u told me jcamins but still got the same error.. hhmm.. 01:48 schnydsch lemme try again, maybe -z -b -a got along the way 01:48 jcamins_away Then, when you go in to re-enable the cron job, you add "-x" to the end of the command line. 01:48 rangi marcxml doesnt 01:48 jcamins_away During that time, you need the cron job to be disabled. 01:48 rangi iso2709 has a size limit 01:48 jcamins_away You run rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -x *once* 01:48 rangi yup 01:47 schnydsch <rangi> you mean -b -a -r -x? 01:47 jcamins_away All of whom have it working with -x. 01:47 jcamins_away schnydsch: yes, many, many libraries. 01:47 rangi yep, fixed with -x 01:47 schnydsch i mean biblio records with more that 600 items? 01:46 schnydsch could this be a bug? does anybody in the group have biblio records more than 600? 01:46 jcamins_away I'm sorry, I don't have any more suggestions if rebuilding zebra with -x didn't fix the problem. 01:46 schnydsch but when I got up 600 yesterday through merging I got that mess 01:46 schnydsch yeah, it was working before the biblio record had only 500 or less items 01:45 schnydsch when i search the biblionumber in catalog, The record you requested does not exist (). and the biblionumber in URL is blank 01:45 jcamins_away And I can't think what it could be. 01:45 jcamins_away So there must be an additional issue here. 01:44 jcamins_away I've seen that problem before, and it is fixed by adding -x 01:44 jcamins_away Very odd. 01:44 schnydsch with /cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=XXXXX it's there 01:43 schnydsch when i search the barcode/acc. no., there is no biblionumber on URL 01:43 jcamins_away So if you go to /cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=XXXXX what happens? 01:42 jcamins_away Are you trying to directly access the record? 01:42 schnydsch the title is Supreme Court Reports Annotated 01:42 jcamins_away When does that show? 01:42 schnydsch what shows is The record you requested does not exist (). 01:42 schnydsch it does not show when I search particular barcode/accession no. 01:41 jcamins_away And it's showing up in search results? 01:41 bgkriegel schnydsch: how are you trying to access it? 01:41 jcamins_away Very weird. 01:40 eythian Weird. 01:40 schnydsch i still get The record you requested does not exist (). 01:40 dcook Looks like it was assigned to you? 01:40 eythian why's that got my name on it? 01:39 jcamins_away That's the one. 01:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records 01:39 bgkriegel dcook: bug 7818 01:36 jcamins_away It just didn't work with DOM and we didn't have a way of checking, so it was disabled for authorities. 01:36 bgkriegel ah, ok 01:35 jcamins_away -x always worked with GRS-1. 01:35 jcamins_away No. 01:35 bgkriegel but this is only for DOM? my install use grs-1 and also works 01:34 dcook Hmm. Cool. 01:33 jcamins_away bgkriegel: heh, yeah, the help should probably be updated then. 01:33 wahanui dom indexing is a lot faster than GRS-1. 01:33 jcamins_away DOM indexing. 01:33 eythian oh cool. I should update the package scripts so they let that work. 01:33 bgkriegel just tried and works, but help still said "only for biblios" 01:33 dcook Which bug changed that? 01:32 jcamins_away Since 3.8.3ish. 01:31 eythian jcamins_away: can we use -x with authorities now? 01:31 schnydsch ok thanks. i'll rebuild first with -b -a -r -x. then -z -b -a -x 01:30 jcamins_away But you have a recent version. 01:30 jcamins_away If you were using an old version, you would have needed two: -z -b -x and -z -a 01:30 jcamins_away Right, you need to change it to -z -b -a -x 01:29 schnydsch i have -z -b -a 01:29 jcamins_away It doesn't matter. 01:29 schnydsch jcamins, what cronjobs are those? 01:29 schnydsch 3.8.5 01:29 jcamins_away You may have to rebuild just biblios, and have two cronjobs instead of just one. 01:29 wahanui version is always noted in a comment on top 01:29 jcamins_away schnydsch: what version? 01:29 jcamins_away Good point. 01:29 jcamins_away Not since 3.8.3ish. 01:28 bgkriegel -x is not for biblios only? 01:27 jcamins_away You have to rebuild the indexes... mixing some entries with -x and some entries without gets messy. 01:26 schnydsch -x -b was working for me then.. but haven't tried -b -a -r -x 01:26 schnydsch ok i'll try that first. 01:25 jcamins_away And you'll have to rebuild the indexes with -b -a -r -x first 01:25 jcamins_away It has to be -z -b -a -x 01:25 jcamins_away Right, that won't work. 01:25 schnydsch I have -z -b -a running every 3 minutes 01:25 jcamins_away If you use -x when indexing, it will start showing up again. 01:25 jcamins_away schnydsch: the problem is with indexing. 01:24 schnydsch yeah 01:24 bgkriegel ? 01:24 bgkriegel do you know the biblionumber (koha internal number) 01:23 schnydsch ..its supposed biblionumber, what comes out is "The record you requested does not exist (). I have cron job -z -b -a running every 3 minutes 01:23 schnydsch good morning koha community. we're using koha 3.8.5 in debian installation.is there a limit in items in a bibliographic record?one bibliographic record we have has 690 items.before that days before, the biblio record and its items are working good but now when I'm seaching it comes out as No Title, and when I click it it has no biblionumber. When I search.. 01:22 bgkriegel and cait too 01:21 bgkriegel :) 01:21 dcook You too, bgkriegel :p 01:21 dcook Looks like Owen has been busy... 01:21 * dcook just noticed the 60 patch emails sitting in his patches folder. 00:58 dcook Yeah, I saw that with my dev install ;) 00:58 bgkriegel dcook: yes, and prints a warning if webserver can't write the file 00:40 dcook Looks like Koha re-writes the actual templates 00:40 dcook Nvm 00:31 dcook When they're editing the help pages on the staff client? 00:31 dcook How does Koha store user-generated help data? 00:31 dcook Random question for anyone who has a moment 00:22 mveron :quit 00:21 mveron Good night all