Time  Nick            Message
23:23 jops            (and all because we have imported a pmb marc catalog from another library)
23:22 jops            ofastadd? ok we'll try it now
23:21 jops            but maybe it's because we have an unimarc istance and the frameworks are for marc21?
23:21 jops            and are absent the 200 and 215 fields
23:21 wizzyrea        fast add is as short as it gets
23:20 jops            simple_bib
23:20 wizzyrea        for fast add?
23:20 jops            and it works. But actually there are more fields!
23:19 jops            thank you both, we execute the query directly in mysql
23:19 wizzyrea        do it the other way if you used the tarball
23:18 wizzyrea        ^^ also this.
23:18 eythian         it'll save looking up passwords etc.
23:18 eythian         if you are using the packages, use the koha-mysql command to get things into mysql.
23:14 wizzyrea        (all that assumes you are using the packages)
23:12 wizzyrea        if you named your instance "library" it would be koha_library, for example
23:12 wizzyrea        at least the word "instance"
23:12 wizzyrea        koha_instance you replace with your instance name of course
23:11 wizzyrea        I haven't ever tried that, tbh. I was thinking something using the command line like mysql -ukoha_instance -p koha_instance < marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql - but I would try importing it through the interface (and let us know if it works)
23:09 jops            wizzyrea: we find the simple_bib you suggested. We have to import in the marc framework in the koha administration backend?
23:05 jops            thank you for your support cait
23:02 eythian         later caiter
23:02 cait            good night all :)
23:01 huginn          wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
23:01 wizzyrea        @wunder wellington, nz
22:56 wizzyrea        also simple bib
22:54 cait            heh
22:54 wizzyrea        like first time ever :)
22:54 jops            :)
22:54 cait            ah now wizzyrea was faster
22:54 jops            ok, i-ll check it
22:54 cait            in your koha directory
22:54 cait            the sql files should be in installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional/
22:53 wizzyrea        fastadd may be what you want
22:53 wizzyrea        jops, the sql to import for the frameworks is in installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional
22:53 jops            ah ok
22:53 cait            you might want to look into creating your own frameworks
22:53 cait            the normal books is not a lot shorter
22:52 jops            and the best for us, for cataloguing our books, wuold be a specific marc framework, less dispersive
22:51 jops            all this, is because we have added a catalog from another library that has few marc fields compiled
22:48 jops            we were searching the books one
22:48 jops            http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MARC_frameworks
22:47 jops            yes, we tried to find the sql with the frameworks
22:46 cait            or you rerun the installer - but that will mean losing all the work you did so far
22:46 cait            you have to find the sql file that is used to create them and load that into your database
22:45 cait            you can load them probably
22:45 jops            Can we recover it?
22:45 jops            so what do you suggest?
22:44 jops            ah! right
22:44 jops            Installation language is in english
22:44 cait            tick the checkbox during installation
22:43 cait            which language is your installation?
22:43 cait            they are optional
22:43 cait            s
22:43 cait            you  have to tick a checkbox to get the additional framework
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22:43 jops            we discovered that we have only the default MARC framework and don't know why we don't have the other frameworks as reported in the wiki. We don't know what went wrong in installation
22:41 jops            we happily made an istance of koha in our server for our library (social history)
22:39 cait            hi jops
22:39 jops            hi all
22:20 dcook           hi cait :)
22:20 cait            hi dcook
21:51 wizzyrea        hm
21:50 cait            I tihnk I will leave that for another day
21:49 cait            but what is reserved??
21:49 cait            I see that transit is another
21:49 cait            because waitin gis another status
21:49 cait            http://perldoc.koha-community.org/C4/Reserves.html#CheckReserves
21:49 cait            hm
21:49 cait            i am not sure I get the http://perldoc.koha-community.org/C4/Reserves.html#CheckReservesdocs
21:49 wizzyrea        it will come up eventually
21:48 cait            not necessarily
21:48 cait            I thik the items we are taking about here are neither
21:48 wizzyrea        when you check out a book at library A for a patron at library b
21:48 cait            what is in transit for a hold?
21:48 wizzyrea        most places, I think, would agree that an item is unavailable and should be marked as such if an item is in transit for a hold, or waiting
21:47 wizzyrea        and any other variants
21:47 huginn          wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
21:47 wahanui         http://xkcd.com/1172/
21:47 wizzyrea        @quote get 123
21:47 cait            if it's on the shelf still, it's fair game
21:47 cait            yeah that was what I was thinking
21:46 wizzyrea        in others they are available only if they are not in transit or waiting or checked out
21:46 wizzyrea        regarding availability, every library's definition is different - in some libraries items are available unless they are checked out
21:45 wizzyrea        and a regular transfer
21:45 wizzyrea        currently though, you can't differentiate between a transfer that belongs to a hold
21:45 wizzyrea        well, an item is not available when it is in transit or waiting
21:43 wizzyrea        sure :)
21:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9253 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , If an item is reserved, at the opac it is marked as available
21:42 cait            wizzyrea: could you take a look at bug 9253?
21:39 wizzyrea        and as we've seen, going on your own doesn't always pay. :/
21:38 cait            bit hard sometimes, but worth it
21:38 cait            yep
21:37 wizzyrea        but still a worthy goal I think
21:36 wizzyrea        not so easy when it's koha-sized
21:36 wizzyrea        as a lone company, or a small team, that's easy
21:36 wizzyrea        something that Tim Berners-Lee said, that I felt was apt - was that one has to respect the sacrifice of those who work to develop at the speed of consensus.
21:35 eythian         hello cait
21:35 cait            morning eythian
21:34 eythian         http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/motivation-community-and-the-cost-of-disagreeing
21:10 * cait          gets headaches thinking about her data privacy documentation
21:10 cait            that's... not good
21:10 cait            fines.pl that is
21:10 cait            did you know that every time fine runs a file with patron infomration is created?
21:06 cait            hm
21:03 cait            back
20:57 cait            brb
20:55 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8451 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Confusing and problematic double prompt for processing transfers
20:55 cait            wizzyrea: do you want to switch bug 8451 to in discussion?
20:53 cait            i'd like routing lists to only show up when there is a routing list
20:52 cait            to have it everywhere?
20:52 cait            it'sin more, so maybe it's ok?
20:52 cait            not sure
20:52 cait            hm
20:52 wizzyrea        maybe a side effect of bootstrap work
20:51 wizzyrea        dk if that was intentional
20:51 wizzyrea        but it's escaped out of readingrec.pl
20:51 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6751 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Link in readingrec.pl to export a barcode file
20:51 wizzyrea        bug 6751
20:50 huginn          04Bug 7986: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export issues
20:50 cait            http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7986
20:50 cait            hm ther eis something
20:50 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7708 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Import/export from a special library (french BDPs)
20:50 wizzyrea        bug 7708
20:49 cait            now it seems to be ok
20:49 cait            I had a perl error even
20:49 cait            weird
20:49 cait            oh it's back
20:48 * wizzyrea      might have  a login sec
20:48 wizzyrea        he just left
20:48 cait            gives me a 504
20:48 cait            hm of course... and rangi is not around, right?
20:48 cait            but bugzilla is.. slooow
20:48 cait            paul explained it somewhere
20:48 wizzyrea        huh.
20:46 cait            quite sure I am not making sense, I am going to find it for you
20:46 cait            so they check out the books and then ... give them a file or something
20:46 cait            a ... communal? library lending to other libraries
20:46 cait            it's a french thing
20:46 cait            ah
20:45 wizzyrea        because I'm really curious :P
20:45 wizzyrea        rather, does anyone know where the bug for that is
20:45 wizzyrea        ok, humor me - what is the stated purpose for "export today's checked in barcodes"
20:44 wizzyrea        it's been lovely for a few days now
20:42 cait            how is wellington today?
20:40 kathryn         hi cait :)
20:40 cait            if there is a wizzyrea... hi kathryn :)
20:40 wizzyrea        hi :)
20:40 cait            hey wizzyrea :)
20:40 wahanui         hmmm... huginn is a bot, not a person.
20:40 wizzyrea        huginn?
20:39 huginn          wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
20:39 wizzyrea        huginn is a bot, not a person.
20:39 wahanui         wizzyrea: I forgot huginn
20:39 wizzyrea        forget huginn
20:38 wahanui         i think huginn is a bot too veera, not a person
20:38 mveron          huginn?
20:37 wahanui         yes, mveron?
20:37 mveron          wahanui?
20:37 wahanui         i heard alohabot was a little tool :) but welcome :)
20:37 mveron          alohabot?
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19:48 wahanui         okay, cait.
19:48 cait            wahanui is also right sometimes
19:48 phasefx         haha
19:48 wahanui         ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy....
19:48 cait            wahanui, you are so right sometimes
19:48 cait            :)
19:48 wahanui         Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
19:48 cait            never mind
19:48 cait            hehe
19:47 cait            does this make sense?
19:47 cait            next;    # not overdue
19:47 cait            if ( DateTime->compare( $datedue, $today ) == 1 ) {
19:46 * phasefx       is lurking
19:46 cait            anyone here? :)
19:46 cait            hm
19:19 cait            nice.
19:19 cait            oh fines
18:48 rangi           it means you havent put in the instance name
18:47 koyauni         when I run this (sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v), nothing happens and no error messages seen, what does it mean exactly, please
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18:25 bgkriegel       @wunder cordoba, argentina
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18:10 mveron          @wunder Basel
18:09 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (7:00 PM CET on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
18:09 cait            @wunder Konstanz
17:00 mveron          :-)
17:00 mveron          Ok.
17:00 cait            yep, only saying it's not in string freeze yet
16:59 mveron          But it's OK to work on 3.12?
16:59 cait            it's still changing some :)
16:59 cait            I did 3.8 and 3.10 - still waiting a bit with 3.12
16:59 cait            of course it is
16:58 mveron          cait: I can work on the German translation this evening, is that OK?
16:58 mveron          hi cait :-)
16:58 cait            hi mveron :)
16:58 cait            we were wondering about that brb :)
16:58 mveron          Hi #koha
16:58 mveron          ...oh, that is a long time.
16:58 huginn          mveron: mveron was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <mveron> BRB
16:58 mveron          @seen mveron
16:18 cait            that's the only one I think that would get you into trouble :)
16:18 bgkriegel       :)ok
16:17 cait            you can set everything I think apart from passed qa :)
16:17 cait            yep
16:17 bgkriegel       cait: could I mark a bug as "patch doesn't apply' ?
15:08 cait            and 31 patches waiting for jcamins_away :)
15:07 cait            all bootstrappy patches done!!
15:07 cait            yay
14:40 jcamins_away    WaylonR: check them all, probably.
14:35 * cait          wishes very hard git bz would also allow to set the qa contact
14:35 cait            some today... I am just puzzled
14:32 wahanui         which one is the "native" files?
14:32 bgkriegel       which one?
14:30 cait            the bug is passed qa, I enter my qa contact and it switches back to needs sign-off?
14:30 cait            weird
14:28 cait            bgkriegel the sign off machine :)
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14:26 WaylonR         jcamins_away, i have no idea which field has the suspect wide characters, what am i supposed to do?
13:48 * WaylonR       sighs.
13:48 WaylonR         k....
13:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mdhafen, Failed QA , Tool to move MARC21 series info to 490 tag
13:47 bgkriegel       Take a look at Bug 5608, not exactly what you need, but shows and example of how to write such script
13:47 jcamins_away    Right, you have to write a script to do it.
13:45 WaylonR         if your talking about re-encoding, marc::charset::table kicks out a wide character error, even after the re-encoding inside modbiblio
13:45 jcamins_away    If you do anything other than what bgkriegel describes, you will make the situation worse.
13:42 bgkriegel       in that way both columns are updated
13:42 bgkriegel       directly in Koha
13:42 bgkriegel       first load then, fix, and save
13:42 bgkriegel       if you know perl, you could write a script to change the records
13:40 WaylonR         REGEXP CONCAT('[',UNHEX('00'),'-',UNHEX('7F'),']') ?
13:40 WaylonR         oh...
13:39 bgkriegel       if the wide chars are in marcxml, then I think they are also in marc (both columns).You need to change both
13:38 WaylonR         [^\x00-\x7f] is how to find widechars in perl regex, how do i use this to find widechars in mysql?
13:37 bgkriegel       I think not
13:37 WaylonR         or some such?
13:36 WaylonR         update marcxml from biblioitems where /widechars//
13:36 WaylonR         is there a way to do a search and replace inside mysql?
13:35 bgkriegel       :)
13:34 cait            cool thx
13:34 bgkriegel       cait: done
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13:21 cait            but I would be happy if it just stopped being wrong too :)
13:21 cait            i love consistenccy
13:21 cait            yeah :)
13:21 bgkriegel       I'm thinking in consitency
13:20 cait            I think shorter :) but not really a preference
13:20 cait            hm
13:20 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9651 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When deleting a fund, button is wrongly labelled with 'Delete this budget'
13:20 bgkriegel       cait: Bug 9651 is easy, but a question: when you delete a budget only asks Delete/Cancel, but delete funds is more polite :) Change to shorter version or simply fix?
12:58 cait            i think if it's the css owen will do a patch :)
12:58 bgkriegel       I think so, the he need to make a solution:)
12:57 cait            i mean the merge that caused the problem?
12:57 cait            maybe note that on the bug?
12:57 cait            ah so must have been owen's changes for bootstrap?
12:56 bgkriegel       cait: was the last merge, do a reset and legends shows up
12:50 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9653 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Filters on suggestion page in intranet are broken
12:50 cait            bug 9653
12:50 cait            done
12:48 bgkriegel       :(
12:48 bgkriegel       yeah
12:48 cait            investigating will take time :(
12:48 cait            maybe I iwll just file a bug for now
12:47 cait            so that was hardly to bemissed... it must be some side effect
12:47 cait            the last changes on this page were to fix the filters
12:47 cait            trying to find it
12:47 cait            bgkriegel: maybe
12:47 bgkriegel       cait: the text is there, but invisible. Must be a css thing
12:42 cait            not totally sure
12:40 WaylonR         cait, how do i fix wide characters?
12:40 cait            I will file a bug :)
12:39 cait            *sigh*
12:39 bgkriegel       then yes
12:39 cait            I only have blue boxes
12:39 cait            yeah
12:39 bgkriegel       empty boxes?
12:38 cait            are they broken for you too?
12:38 cait            go to the suggestions page and check the filters on the left
12:37 bgkriegel       tell me
12:37 cait            bgkriegel: could yo do me a quick favor?
12:36 cait            hm could you export them, fix them and reimport matching on biblionumber?
12:34 wahanui         WaylonR: I forgot data entry
12:34 WaylonR         wahanui, forget data entry
12:34 wahanui         hmmm... data entry is ok, for around 2500 books, i can import it from sidd's existing xls sheets
12:34 WaylonR         data entry.
12:33 bgkriegel       from an import?
12:33 WaylonR         unknown.
12:32 bgkriegel       WaylonR: how many records?
12:30 cait            ok :)
12:30 bgkriegel       done already
12:30 cait            bgkriegel: do you want me to switch it?
12:30 cait            no problem :)
12:30 bgkriegel       cait: I think so, but don't know
12:29 mib_26jow2      i'll go... thank you very much, cait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:29 cait            confirmation too, so it doesn't do anything until you really want to
12:28 cait            when there is a reason, I think for a script that shuffles data around a -h would be very good
12:28 cait            everybody can
12:28 bgkriegel       ok
12:28 cait            no problem
12:28 cait            switch to failed qa :)
12:28 bgkriegel       mib_26jow2: cait is from Germany.
12:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mdhafen, Needs Signoff , Tool to move MARC21 series info to 490 tag
12:28 WaylonR         helllo all! Okay, problem, somehow, wide characters have made it into some records marcxml.. how do i clean all records of wide characters?
12:27 bgkriegel       a question about the status
12:27 cait            oh?
12:27 bgkriegel       cait: I sent you and email about bug 5608
12:27 mib_26jow2      where do you come from?
12:26 mib_26jow2      of course
12:26 cait            so it should not require you to select it again
12:26 cait            that you want to see italian
12:26 cait            but the browser should remember now
12:26 cait            I like it better, it's sometimes good for testing
12:26 mib_26jow2      in your opinion is better have the two choices?
12:24 cait            :) have fun with Koha :)
12:24 mib_26jow2      i'm very happy
12:24 mib_26jow2      thank you very much
12:24 cait            we normally also provide english, so the chooser stays visible
12:24 cait            if the browser is installed in italian it hsould be ok
12:24 cait            heh
12:23 mib_26jow2      and all is good
12:23 mib_26jow2      and now i "put away" english
12:23 cait            :)
12:23 mib_26jow2      it worked
12:23 mib_26jow2      i click on italian
12:22 mib_26jow2      so in the bottom the choice appeared
12:22 cait            yay :)
12:22 mib_26jow2      i checked both italian and english
12:21 mib_26jow2      it works!
12:21 mib_26jow2      wowowowowowow
12:19 cait            then go to the koha start page and check if the chooser appeared
12:19 mib_26jow2      ok, now i try
12:19 cait            both checkboxes checked for each opac and intranet
12:18 cait            activating italian AND english
12:18 cait            try
12:18 cait            and is opaclanguagesdisplay ALLOW?
12:18 cait            do you see the chooser on the link I sent you?
12:18 cait            better use a service to upload it somewhere on the web
12:18 mib_26jow2      can i send you a print of my screen?
12:17 mib_26jow2      maybe
12:17 mib_26jow2      the last line on the bottom is to save
12:17 cait            maybe you didn't install the language properly
12:17 cait            [off] you can see an example here: https://seminar-esslingen.bsz-bw.de/
12:17 mib_26jow2      i haven't it
12:16 cait            at the bottom of every page there is a  langauge chooser
12:16 cait            to the bottom
12:16 cait            but scroll down on tha page
12:16 cait            and yes, you activated it
12:16 cait            every line in the table is one preference
12:16 cait            preferences are all lines
12:15 mib_26jow2      ialian and english
12:15 mib_26jow2      2
12:13 bgkriegel       mib_26jow2: if you click on tab I18N/L10N, how many preferences you see?
12:12 mib_26jow2      it doesn't work
12:09 mib_26jow2      what can i do?
12:08 mib_26jow2      i can only enable language
12:07 mib_26jow2      in i18n there is nothing to click
12:06 cait            at the bottom
12:06 cait            click on italian
12:05 mib_26jow2      and how i can switch?
12:05 mib_26jow2      alreading done
12:05 cait            it's on the i18n page, the last entry
12:04 mib_26jow2      i search
12:04 cait            go back to the start page - scroll down
12:04 cait            to allow
12:04 cait            set opaclanguagesdisplay
12:04 mib_26jow2      i don't see a switch
12:04 cait            but you have to switch
12:04 cait            yes
12:03 mib_26jow2      any idea?
12:02 mib_26jow2      both for language and OPAC language
12:01 mib_26jow2      and the cross is on italian and not on english
12:00 mib_26jow2      i'm here
12:00 mib_26jow2      home/administration/system preferences/I18N/L10N
11:59 cait            it worked?
11:59 mib_26jow2      i'm in
11:58 cait            there should be English | Italian to switch between languages
11:58 cait            make sure choosing the language is activated and then look at the footer of your pages
11:58 mib_26jow2      wait pls
11:57 mib_26jow2      ok
11:57 cait            search the preferences again for 'lang'
11:57 cait            did you also activate the language chooser?
11:57 mib_26jow2      what is my mistake?
11:57 mib_26jow2      all is in english again
11:56 mib_26jow2      nothing is changed
11:56 mib_26jow2      but
11:56 mib_26jow2      i was able to install italian language an now i can activate it in I18N/L10N preference editor
11:54 mib_26jow2      first of all excuse me for my terrible english, i'm italian
11:54 cait            what is your question or problem?
11:54 mib_26jow2      someone can help me about language translator in koha?
11:53 mib_26jow2      hi
11:53 bgkriegel       yes
11:52 cait            and hope theywill be a  lot more accessible
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11:52 cait            i like the changes too
11:51 cait            hm?
11:50 bgkriegel       my fingers :(
11:50 bgkriegel       yes
11:50 cait            do you mean oleonard? ;)
11:49 bgkriegel       owen+++
11:49 cait            heh
11:49 bgkriegel       sorry
11:49 bgkriegel       gmcharlt++
11:49 bgkriegel       Love that gui changes
11:48 bgkriegel       hehe
11:48 cait            i am working my way through all the bootstrap patches right now
11:48 cait            no, thank you :)
11:48 bgkriegel       thanks :)
11:48 bgkriegel       would try that.
11:48 bgkriegel       ah, ok
11:47 cait            I think that was what rangi's comment meant and it woudl match my testing workflow
11:47 cait            then log out of koha, but stay in persona
11:47 cait            try logging into persona first
11:47 cait            ah
11:46 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9587 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow login via mozilla persona - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/
11:46 bgkriegel       can't reproduce your problem with bug 9587
11:46 bgkriegel       np
11:46 bgkriegel       Hi cait, lookin for you
11:45 cait            and thank you for your sign-off:)
11:45 bgkriegel       Hello
11:45 cait            hi bgkriegel :)
11:44 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9636 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Replace YUI buttons on labels pages with Bootstrap
11:44 cait            I don't understand why bug 9636 does not work for me
11:44 cait            hm
11:35 cait            happy lunch time :)
11:35 cait            or hm
11:29 cait            morning drojf :)
11:29 huginn          cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.7°C (12:25 PM CET on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
11:29 cait            @wunder Konstanz
11:29 huginn          cait: Error: No such location could be found.
11:29 cait            @wunder Konstnaz
08:58 mib_vgkden      hi
08:58 alohabot        Hi mib_vgkden, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :)
08:43 mtj             there ^^ :)
08:43 wahanui         i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
08:43 mtj             packages?
08:43 nikumbhabhijeet meas use the packages
08:42 nikumbhabhijeet i didn't get you
08:42 nikumbhabhijeet we want to prepare debian live dvd
08:42 mtj             if you are new to koha, use the packages :)
08:41 mtj             … the debian packages work on ubuntu, too  (i think)
08:41 nikumbhabhijeet working very well
08:41 nikumbhabhijeet koha 3.10.02 on ubuntu 12.04
08:40 mtj             also you should try using the koha debian packages - this will save you lots of problems
08:40 nikumbhabhijeet and system is up and running
08:40 nikumbhabhijeet but installation done without errors
08:40 mtj             some errors can be ignored safely, on make-test...
08:40 nikumbhabhijeet is there anything to worry -
08:39 nikumbhabhijeet 3 tests was failed
08:39 nikumbhabhijeet we got some errors while running  make-test
08:38 nikumbhabhijeet yesterday i signed up
08:38 mtj             there ^^ :)
08:38 wahanui         mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
08:38 mtj             mailing lists?
08:37 wahanui         mailing-lists are mailing list.
08:37 mtj             mailing-lists?
08:37 mtj             if you need help, just ask here on #irc - or on the koha mailing-lists
08:37 nikumbhabhijeet now we are able to install koha
08:37 mtj             cool :p - good to know you are making progress with your koha
08:36 nikumbhabhijeet thanks to mr vimal kumar who prepare kohalive dvd 3.06
08:35 nikumbhabhijeet one year back we up and run koha
08:34 nikumbhabhijeet look at us we are trying to use koha system from last to years
08:34 nikumbhabhijeet basically koha is best in category and promotions or anything that get koha popular is not exhist in category
08:32 nikumbhabhijeet as per my knowledge more of libraries use customised desktpo softwares
08:32 mtj             i am from new zealand, we have a few here
08:31 mtj             ah, ok...
08:31 nikumbhabhijeet not many
08:31 mtj             ... or are you the first?
08:31 nikumbhabhijeet hi
08:31 mtj             nikumbhabhijeet, are there many koha users in pune?
08:30 cait            hi mtj :)
08:30 mtj             hi cait and nikumbhabhijeet
08:28 nikumbhabhijeet r u koha professional like developer
08:28 cait            np
08:28 nikumbhabhijeet thanks again
08:27 nikumbhabhijeet i'm from pune,india
08:26 nikumbhabhijeet myself nikumbh
08:26 cait            I am from germany
08:26 nikumbhabhijeet where are you from
08:26 nikumbhabhijeet by the way, whats your name
08:26 nikumbhabhijeet lot of time
08:25 nikumbhabhijeet because we spend much of time to configre koha
08:25 cait            there are a lot more people during the week
08:25 cait            it's pretty qiuet here on weekends
08:25 nikumbhabhijeet i am feeling good, because this is my first time to chat on koha community
08:24 cait            and then changes to sent
08:24 wahanui         the status is clear
08:24 cait            the status
08:24 cait            it's pending
08:24 nikumbhabhijeet ok ok
08:24 cait            but everything that shows up in the tabs of borrowers will be sent out
08:24 nikumbhabhijeet everyday  like this
08:24 nikumbhabhijeet like 5 am morning
08:23 cait            stuff like that would be send out immediately normally
08:23 nikumbhabhijeet at specific time
08:23 cait            and claims in acquisitions and serials
08:23 cait            all but cart emails I think
08:23 nikumbhabhijeet so we have to configure processmessagequeue on cron setting
08:22 nikumbhabhijeet is all notices generated between the time ---when offline--- are going to laps or send while connected
08:22 cait            it will send out the notices as soon as the processmessagequeue job runs I think
08:21 nikumbhabhijeet after 10 pm we connect our system to internet
08:20 nikumbhabhijeet our system is not connected to internet  while making check-in and check-out transactions
08:19 wahanui         the question is, like, "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
08:19 cait            what is the question?
08:19 cait            yes
08:18 nikumbhabhijeet ru there/
08:18 nikumbhabhijeet we have an another question
08:18 nikumbhabhijeet hi
08:17 cait            bye
08:16 nikumbhabhijeet have a nice day
08:16 nikumbhabhijeet bye
08:16 nikumbhabhijeet thank you
08:13 cait            cool
08:13 nikumbhabhijeet ya its working
08:13 nikumbhabhijeet it's working
08:11 cait            if they didn't arrive, check your mta configuration
08:11 nikumbhabhijeet wait wait i'll see mails
08:11 cait            yep, they should have been sent out
08:10 nikumbhabhijeet Checkouts 	email 	sent 	2013-02-17 11:57:31 Check-ins 	email 	sent 	2013-02-17 11:57:31
08:10 nikumbhabhijeet we found two notices
08:09 cait            which notice did you try to generate? there are different types of notices
08:09 nikumbhabhijeet there are no notices at borrower notice
08:08 cait            so nothing in message_queue?
08:08 nikumbhabhijeet we saw
08:08 nikumbhabhijeet no notices generated
08:08 cait            until that runs they are only saved into the messagequeue table
08:07 cait            3) make sure the cronjob process_messagequeue is set up to actually send the mails
08:07 nikumbhabhijeet we conggured postfix with gmail
08:07 cait            2) make sure you have set up check-in/checkout slips, check out, checkin and look at the notices tab for this borrower, to see if the notices were generated
08:07 cait            it will show if your mailserver works in principle
08:06 cait            1) try sending out a cart mail, because they don't need the cronjobs
08:06 nikumbhabhijeet we refer the documents
08:06 cait            I would suggest
08:06 cait            also the cronjobs have their own documentation, if you run them with -h or --help
08:06 wahanui         i guess documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
08:06 cait            documentation?
08:06 wahanui         well, manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
08:06 cait            manual?
08:06 cait            have you checked the manual?
08:06 nikumbhabhijeet crontabs triggers, ad all
08:05 nikumbhabhijeet do you know about any proper documentation for configure notices
08:04 nikumbhabhijeet koha 3.06
08:04 nikumbhabhijeet 3.06
08:04 nikumbhabhijeet we can't send notices to borrowers
08:04 wahanui         which version of koha are you using?
08:04 cait            which version of koha?
08:04 cait            which kind of notices do you have problems with?
08:03 nikumbhabhijeet postfix configured
08:03 nikumbhabhijeet system is running properly
08:03 cait            what is your problem?
08:03 wahanui         que tal, cait
08:03 cait            hi
08:02 nikumbhabhijeet we are having issues while configuring send notices
08:01 wahanui         niihau, nikumbhabhijeet
08:01 nikumbhabhijeet hi
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07:45 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9566 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Only run analytics code if analytics are enabled
07:45 cait            bug 9566
03:15 drojf           they
03:15 drojf           (do the change ccl.properties)
03:14 drojf           wajasu: in what way?
02:21 wajasu          i did a diff before and after install with chr/icu varying.   i did notice those change ccl.properties compared to the current biblio pkgs.
02:19 wajasu          thanks for that info.
01:35 drojf           we did not do much after the change to verify it worked because other stuff was more important, but i could find cyrillic letters which i could not find before… hth
01:34 drojf           wajasu: what i see on my list is "install yaz-icu;  Syspref UseICU 'use'; Syspref QueryFuzzy 'don't try'; Syspref QueryStemming 'don't try'. then change the file you mentioned, look at words-icu.xml but do nothing for now; restart zebra and rebuild
01:31 drojf           wajasu: i think there is not much magic involved
00:33 wajasu          and rebuild
00:33 wajasu          looks like the only thing i need to change to go from chr to icu zebra, is to substitute "charmap word-phrase-utf.chr" -> "icuchain words-icu.xml" in the /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/default.idx in a couple of places.