Time Nick Message 00:33 wajasu looks like the only thing i need to change to go from chr to icu zebra, is to substitute "charmap word-phrase-utf.chr" -> "icuchain words-icu.xml" in the /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/default.idx in a couple of places. 00:33 wajasu and rebuild 01:31 drojf wajasu: i think there is not much magic involved 01:34 drojf wajasu: what i see on my list is "install yaz-icu; Syspref UseICU 'use'; Syspref QueryFuzzy 'don't try'; Syspref QueryStemming 'don't try'. then change the file you mentioned, look at words-icu.xml but do nothing for now; restart zebra and rebuild 01:35 drojf we did not do much after the change to verify it worked because other stuff was more important, but i could find cyrillic letters which i could not find before… hth 02:19 wajasu thanks for that info. 02:21 wajasu i did a diff before and after install with chr/icu varying. i did notice those change ccl.properties compared to the current biblio pkgs. 03:14 drojf wajasu: in what way? 03:15 drojf (do the change ccl.properties) 03:15 drojf they 07:45 cait bug 9566 07:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9566 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Only run analytics code if analytics are enabled 07:58 alohabot Hi mib_vgkden, Welcome to #koha. 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If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 08:01 nikumbhabhijeet hi 08:01 wahanui niihau, nikumbhabhijeet 08:02 nikumbhabhijeet we are having issues while configuring send notices 08:03 cait hi 08:03 wahanui que tal, cait 08:03 cait what is your problem? 08:03 nikumbhabhijeet system is running properly 08:03 nikumbhabhijeet postfix configured 08:04 cait which kind of notices do you have problems with? 08:04 cait which version of koha? 08:04 wahanui which version of koha are you using? 08:04 nikumbhabhijeet we can't send notices to borrowers 08:04 nikumbhabhijeet 3.06 08:04 nikumbhabhijeet koha 3.06 08:05 nikumbhabhijeet do you know about any proper documentation for configure notices 08:06 nikumbhabhijeet crontabs triggers, ad all 08:06 cait have you checked the manual? 08:06 cait manual? 08:06 wahanui well, manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 08:06 cait documentation? 08:06 wahanui i guess documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ 08:06 cait also the cronjobs have their own documentation, if you run them with -h or --help 08:06 cait I would suggest 08:06 nikumbhabhijeet we refer the documents 08:06 cait 1) try sending out a cart mail, because they don't need the cronjobs 08:07 cait it will show if your mailserver works in principle 08:07 cait 2) make sure you have set up check-in/checkout slips, check out, checkin and look at the notices tab for this borrower, to see if the notices were generated 08:07 nikumbhabhijeet we conggured postfix with gmail 08:07 cait 3) make sure the cronjob process_messagequeue is set up to actually send the mails 08:08 cait until that runs they are only saved into the messagequeue table 08:08 nikumbhabhijeet no notices generated 08:08 nikumbhabhijeet we saw 08:08 cait so nothing in message_queue? 08:09 nikumbhabhijeet there are no notices at borrower notice 08:09 cait which notice did you try to generate? there are different types of notices 08:10 nikumbhabhijeet we found two notices 08:10 nikumbhabhijeet Checkouts email sent 2013-02-17 11:57:31 Check-ins email sent 2013-02-17 11:57:31 08:11 cait yep, they should have been sent out 08:11 nikumbhabhijeet wait wait i'll see mails 08:11 cait if they didn't arrive, check your mta configuration 08:13 nikumbhabhijeet it's working 08:13 nikumbhabhijeet ya its working 08:13 cait cool 08:16 nikumbhabhijeet thank you 08:16 nikumbhabhijeet bye 08:16 nikumbhabhijeet have a nice day 08:17 cait bye 08:18 nikumbhabhijeet hi 08:18 nikumbhabhijeet we have an another question 08:18 nikumbhabhijeet ru there/ 08:19 cait yes 08:19 cait what is the question? 08:19 wahanui the question is, like, "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 08:20 nikumbhabhijeet our system is not connected to internet while making check-in and check-out transactions 08:21 nikumbhabhijeet after 10 pm we connect our system to internet 08:22 cait it will send out the notices as soon as the processmessagequeue job runs I think 08:22 nikumbhabhijeet is all notices generated between the time ---when offline--- are going to laps or send while connected 08:23 nikumbhabhijeet so we have to configure processmessagequeue on cron setting 08:23 cait all but cart emails I think 08:23 cait and claims in acquisitions and serials 08:23 nikumbhabhijeet at specific time 08:23 cait stuff like that would be send out immediately normally 08:24 nikumbhabhijeet like 5 am morning 08:24 nikumbhabhijeet everyday like this 08:24 cait but everything that shows up in the tabs of borrowers will be sent out 08:24 nikumbhabhijeet ok ok 08:24 cait it's pending 08:24 cait the status 08:24 wahanui the status is clear 08:24 cait and then changes to sent 08:25 nikumbhabhijeet i am feeling good, because this is my first time to chat on koha community 08:25 cait it's pretty qiuet here on weekends 08:25 cait there are a lot more people during the week 08:25 nikumbhabhijeet because we spend much of time to configre koha 08:26 nikumbhabhijeet lot of time 08:26 nikumbhabhijeet by the way, whats your name 08:26 nikumbhabhijeet where are you from 08:26 cait I am from germany 08:26 nikumbhabhijeet myself nikumbh 08:27 nikumbhabhijeet i'm from pune,india 08:28 nikumbhabhijeet thanks again 08:28 cait np 08:28 nikumbhabhijeet r u koha professional like developer 08:30 mtj hi cait and nikumbhabhijeet 08:30 cait hi mtj :) 08:31 mtj nikumbhabhijeet, are there many koha users in pune? 08:31 nikumbhabhijeet hi 08:31 mtj ... or are you the first? 08:31 nikumbhabhijeet not many 08:31 mtj ah, ok... 08:32 mtj i am from new zealand, we have a few here 08:32 nikumbhabhijeet as per my knowledge more of libraries use customised desktpo softwares 08:34 nikumbhabhijeet basically koha is best in category and promotions or anything that get koha popular is not exhist in category 08:34 nikumbhabhijeet look at us we are trying to use koha system from last to years 08:35 nikumbhabhijeet one year back we up and run koha 08:36 nikumbhabhijeet thanks to mr vimal kumar who prepare kohalive dvd 3.06 08:37 mtj cool :p - good to know you are making progress with your koha 08:37 nikumbhabhijeet now we are able to install koha 08:37 mtj if you need help, just ask here on #irc - or on the koha mailing-lists 08:37 mtj mailing-lists? 08:37 wahanui mailing-lists are mailing list. 08:38 mtj mailing lists? 08:38 wahanui mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 08:38 mtj there ^^ :) 08:38 nikumbhabhijeet yesterday i signed up 08:39 nikumbhabhijeet we got some errors while running make-test 08:39 nikumbhabhijeet 3 tests was failed 08:40 nikumbhabhijeet is there anything to worry - 08:40 mtj some errors can be ignored safely, on make-test... 08:40 nikumbhabhijeet but installation done without errors 08:40 nikumbhabhijeet and system is up and running 08:40 mtj also you should try using the koha debian packages - this will save you lots of problems 08:41 nikumbhabhijeet koha 3.10.02 on ubuntu 12.04 08:41 nikumbhabhijeet working very well 08:41 mtj … the debian packages work on ubuntu, too (i think) 08:42 mtj if you are new to koha, use the packages :) 08:42 nikumbhabhijeet we want to prepare debian live dvd 08:42 nikumbhabhijeet i didn't get you 08:43 nikumbhabhijeet meas use the packages 08:43 mtj packages? 08:43 wahanui i guess packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 08:43 mtj there ^^ :) 08:58 alohabot Hi mib_vgkden, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 08:58 mib_vgkden hi 11:29 cait @wunder Konstnaz 11:29 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found. 11:29 cait @wunder Konstanz 11:29 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.7°C (12:25 PM CET on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 11:29 cait morning drojf :) 11:35 cait or hm 11:35 cait happy lunch time :) 11:44 cait hm 11:44 cait I don't understand why bug 9636 does not work for me 11:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9636 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Replace YUI buttons on labels pages with Bootstrap 11:45 cait hi bgkriegel :) 11:45 bgkriegel Hello 11:45 cait and thank you for your sign-off:) 11:46 bgkriegel Hi cait, lookin for you 11:46 bgkriegel np 11:46 bgkriegel can't reproduce your problem with bug 9587 11:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9587 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Allow login via mozilla persona - https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/ 11:47 cait ah 11:47 cait try logging into persona first 11:47 cait then log out of koha, but stay in persona 11:47 cait I think that was what rangi's comment meant and it woudl match my testing workflow 11:48 bgkriegel ah, ok 11:48 bgkriegel would try that. 11:48 bgkriegel thanks :) 11:48 cait no, thank you :) 11:48 cait i am working my way through all the bootstrap patches right now 11:48 bgkriegel hehe 11:49 bgkriegel Love that gui changes 11:49 bgkriegel gmcharlt++ 11:49 bgkriegel sorry 11:49 cait heh 11:49 bgkriegel owen+++ 11:50 cait do you mean oleonard? ;) 11:50 bgkriegel yes 11:50 bgkriegel my fingers :( 11:51 cait hm? 11:52 cait i like the changes too 11:52 alohabot Hi mib_26jow2, Welcome to #koha. 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If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 11:52 cait and hope theywill be a lot more accessible 11:53 bgkriegel yes 11:53 mib_26jow2 hi 11:54 mib_26jow2 someone can help me about language translator in koha? 11:54 cait what is your question or problem? 11:54 mib_26jow2 first of all excuse me for my terrible english, i'm italian 11:56 mib_26jow2 i was able to install italian language an now i can activate it in I18N/L10N preference editor 11:56 mib_26jow2 but 11:56 mib_26jow2 nothing is changed 11:57 mib_26jow2 all is in english again 11:57 mib_26jow2 what is my mistake? 11:57 cait did you also activate the language chooser? 11:57 cait search the preferences again for 'lang' 11:57 mib_26jow2 ok 11:58 mib_26jow2 wait pls 11:58 cait make sure choosing the language is activated and then look at the footer of your pages 11:58 cait there should be English | Italian to switch between languages 11:59 mib_26jow2 i'm in 11:59 cait it worked? 12:00 mib_26jow2 home/administration/system preferences/I18N/L10N 12:00 mib_26jow2 i'm here 12:01 mib_26jow2 and the cross is on italian and not on english 12:02 mib_26jow2 both for language and OPAC language 12:03 mib_26jow2 any idea? 12:04 cait yes 12:04 cait but you have to switch 12:04 mib_26jow2 i don't see a switch 12:04 cait set opaclanguagesdisplay 12:04 cait to allow 12:04 cait go back to the start page - scroll down 12:04 mib_26jow2 i search 12:05 cait it's on the i18n page, the last entry 12:05 mib_26jow2 alreading done 12:05 mib_26jow2 and how i can switch? 12:06 cait click on italian 12:06 cait at the bottom 12:07 mib_26jow2 in i18n there is nothing to click 12:08 mib_26jow2 i can only enable language 12:09 mib_26jow2 what can i do? 12:12 mib_26jow2 it doesn't work 12:13 bgkriegel mib_26jow2: if you click on tab I18N/L10N, how many preferences you see? 12:15 mib_26jow2 2 12:15 mib_26jow2 ialian and english 12:16 cait preferences are all lines 12:16 cait every line in the table is one preference 12:16 cait and yes, you activated it 12:16 cait but scroll down on tha page 12:16 cait to the bottom 12:16 cait at the bottom of every page there is a langauge chooser 12:17 mib_26jow2 i haven't it 12:17 cait [off] you can see an example here: https://seminar-esslingen.bsz-bw.de/ 12:17 cait maybe you didn't install the language properly 12:17 mib_26jow2 the last line on the bottom is to save 12:17 mib_26jow2 maybe 12:18 mib_26jow2 can i send you a print of my screen? 12:18 cait better use a service to upload it somewhere on the web 12:18 cait do you see the chooser on the link I sent you? 12:18 cait and is opaclanguagesdisplay ALLOW? 12:18 cait try 12:18 cait activating italian AND english 12:19 cait both checkboxes checked for each opac and intranet 12:19 mib_26jow2 ok, now i try 12:19 cait then go to the koha start page and check if the chooser appeared 12:21 mib_26jow2 wowowowowowow 12:21 mib_26jow2 it works! 12:22 mib_26jow2 i checked both italian and english 12:22 cait yay :) 12:22 mib_26jow2 so in the bottom the choice appeared 12:23 mib_26jow2 i click on italian 12:23 mib_26jow2 it worked 12:23 cait :) 12:23 mib_26jow2 and now i "put away" english 12:23 mib_26jow2 and all is good 12:24 cait heh 12:24 cait if the browser is installed in italian it hsould be ok 12:24 cait we normally also provide english, so the chooser stays visible 12:24 mib_26jow2 thank you very much 12:24 mib_26jow2 i'm very happy 12:24 cait :) have fun with Koha :) 12:26 mib_26jow2 in your opinion is better have the two choices? 12:26 cait I like it better, it's sometimes good for testing 12:26 cait but the browser should remember now 12:26 cait that you want to see italian 12:26 cait so it should not require you to select it again 12:26 mib_26jow2 of course 12:27 mib_26jow2 where do you come from? 12:27 bgkriegel cait: I sent you and email about bug 5608 12:27 cait oh? 12:27 bgkriegel a question about the status 12:28 WaylonR helllo all! Okay, problem, somehow, wide characters have made it into some records marcxml.. how do i clean all records of wide characters? 12:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mdhafen, Needs Signoff , Tool to move MARC21 series info to 490 tag 12:28 bgkriegel mib_26jow2: cait is from Germany. 12:28 cait switch to failed qa :) 12:28 cait no problem 12:28 bgkriegel ok 12:28 cait everybody can 12:28 cait when there is a reason, I think for a script that shuffles data around a -h would be very good 12:29 cait confirmation too, so it doesn't do anything until you really want to 12:29 mib_26jow2 i'll go... thank you very much, cait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12:30 bgkriegel cait: I think so, but don't know 12:30 cait no problem :) 12:30 cait bgkriegel: do you want me to switch it? 12:30 bgkriegel done already 12:30 cait ok :) 12:32 bgkriegel WaylonR: how many records? 12:33 WaylonR unknown. 12:33 bgkriegel from an import? 12:34 WaylonR data entry. 12:34 wahanui hmmm... data entry is ok, for around 2500 books, i can import it from sidd's existing xls sheets 12:34 WaylonR wahanui, forget data entry 12:34 wahanui WaylonR: I forgot data entry 12:36 cait hm could you export them, fix them and reimport matching on biblionumber? 12:37 cait bgkriegel: could yo do me a quick favor? 12:37 bgkriegel tell me 12:38 cait go to the suggestions page and check the filters on the left 12:38 cait are they broken for you too? 12:39 bgkriegel empty boxes? 12:39 cait yeah 12:39 cait I only have blue boxes 12:39 bgkriegel then yes 12:39 cait *sigh* 12:40 cait I will file a bug :) 12:40 WaylonR cait, how do i fix wide characters? 12:42 cait not totally sure 12:47 bgkriegel cait: the text is there, but invisible. Must be a css thing 12:47 cait bgkriegel: maybe 12:47 cait trying to find it 12:47 cait the last changes on this page were to fix the filters 12:47 cait so that was hardly to bemissed... it must be some side effect 12:48 cait maybe I iwll just file a bug for now 12:48 cait investigating will take time :( 12:48 bgkriegel yeah 12:48 bgkriegel :( 12:50 cait done 12:50 cait bug 9653 12:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9653 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Filters on suggestion page in intranet are broken 12:56 bgkriegel cait: was the last merge, do a reset and legends shows up 12:57 cait ah so must have been owen's changes for bootstrap? 12:57 cait maybe note that on the bug? 12:57 cait i mean the merge that caused the problem? 12:58 bgkriegel I think so, the he need to make a solution:) 12:58 cait i think if it's the css owen will do a patch :) 13:20 bgkriegel cait: Bug 9651 is easy, but a question: when you delete a budget only asks Delete/Cancel, but delete funds is more polite :) Change to shorter version or simply fix? 13:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9651 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When deleting a fund, button is wrongly labelled with 'Delete this budget' 13:20 cait hm 13:20 cait I think shorter :) but not really a preference 13:21 bgkriegel I'm thinking in consitency 13:21 cait yeah :) 13:21 cait i love consistenccy 13:21 cait but I would be happy if it just stopped being wrong too :) 13:29 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @andisugandi: "@medwinz betul, pak. Dia jg yg dulu buatin paket @kohails 3.8.5 di @openSUSE : https://t.co/SsebzTui . 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Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 14:28 cait bgkriegel the sign off machine :) 14:30 cait weird 14:30 cait the bug is passed qa, I enter my qa contact and it switches back to needs sign-off? 14:32 bgkriegel which one? 14:32 wahanui which one is the "native" files? 14:35 cait some today... I am just puzzled 14:35 * cait wishes very hard git bz would also allow to set the qa contact 14:40 jcamins_away WaylonR: check them all, probably. 15:07 cait yay 15:07 cait all bootstrappy patches done!! 15:08 cait and 31 patches waiting for jcamins_away :) 16:17 bgkriegel cait: could I mark a bug as "patch doesn't apply' ? 16:17 cait yep 16:17 cait you can set everything I think apart from passed qa :) 16:18 bgkriegel :)ok 16:18 cait that's the only one I think that would get you into trouble :) 16:58 mveron @seen mveron 16:58 huginn mveron: mveron was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <mveron> BRB 16:58 mveron ...oh, that is a long time. 16:58 mveron Hi #koha 16:58 cait we were wondering about that brb :) 16:58 cait hi mveron :) 16:58 mveron hi cait :-) 16:58 mveron cait: I can work on the German translation this evening, is that OK? 16:59 cait of course it is 16:59 cait I did 3.8 and 3.10 - still waiting a bit with 3.12 16:59 cait it's still changing some :) 16:59 mveron But it's OK to work on 3.12? 17:00 cait yep, only saying it's not in string freeze yet 17:00 mveron Ok. 17:00 mveron :-) 18:09 cait @wunder Konstanz 18:09 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (7:00 PM CET on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 18:10 mveron @wunder Basel 18:10 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Bale-Mulhouse, Switzerland is 2.0°C (7:00 PM CET on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Falling). 18:25 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina 18:25 huginn bgkriegel: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 19.0°C (3:00 PM ART on February 17, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). 18:47 koyauni when I run this (sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v), nothing happens and no error messages seen, what does it mean exactly, please 18:48 rangi it means you havent put in the instance name 19:19 cait oh fines 19:19 cait nice. 19:46 cait hm 19:46 cait anyone here? :) 19:46 * phasefx is lurking 19:47 cait if ( DateTime->compare( $datedue, $today ) == 1 ) { 19:47 cait next; # not overdue 19:47 cait does this make sense? 19:48 cait hehe 19:48 cait never mind 19:48 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot. 19:48 cait :) 19:48 cait wahanui, you are so right sometimes 19:48 wahanui ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.... 19:48 phasefx haha 19:48 cait wahanui is also right sometimes 19:48 wahanui okay, cait. 20:05 alohabot Hi mib_el8epc, Welcome to #koha. 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If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) 20:37 mveron alohabot? 20:37 wahanui i heard alohabot was a little tool :) but welcome :) 20:37 mveron wahanui? 20:37 wahanui yes, mveron? 20:38 mveron huginn? 20:38 wahanui i think huginn is a bot too veera, not a person 20:39 wizzyrea forget huginn 20:39 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot huginn 20:39 wizzyrea huginn is a bot, not a person. 20:39 huginn wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 20:40 wizzyrea huginn? 20:40 wahanui hmmm... huginn is a bot, not a person. 20:40 cait hey wizzyrea :) 20:40 wizzyrea hi :) 20:40 cait if there is a wizzyrea... hi kathryn :) 20:40 kathryn hi cait :) 20:42 cait how is wellington today? 20:44 wizzyrea it's been lovely for a few days now 20:45 wizzyrea ok, humor me - what is the stated purpose for "export today's checked in barcodes" 20:45 wizzyrea rather, does anyone know where the bug for that is 20:45 wizzyrea because I'm really curious :P 20:46 cait ah 20:46 cait it's a french thing 20:46 cait a ... communal? library lending to other libraries 20:46 cait so they check out the books and then ... give them a file or something 20:46 cait quite sure I am not making sense, I am going to find it for you 20:48 wizzyrea huh. 20:48 cait paul explained it somewhere 20:48 cait but bugzilla is.. slooow 20:48 cait hm of course... and rangi is not around, right? 20:48 cait gives me a 504 20:48 wizzyrea he just left 20:48 * wizzyrea might have a login sec 20:49 cait oh it's back 20:49 cait weird 20:49 cait I had a perl error even 20:49 cait now it seems to be ok 20:50 wizzyrea bug 7708 20:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7708 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , Import/export from a special library (french BDPs) 20:50 cait hm ther eis something 20:50 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7986 20:50 huginn 04Bug 7986: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Export issues 20:51 wizzyrea bug 6751 20:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6751 enhancement, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Link in readingrec.pl to export a barcode file 20:51 wizzyrea but it's escaped out of readingrec.pl 20:51 wizzyrea dk if that was intentional 20:52 wizzyrea maybe a side effect of bootstrap work 20:52 cait hm 20:52 cait not sure 20:52 cait it'sin more, so maybe it's ok? 20:52 cait to have it everywhere? 20:53 cait i'd like routing lists to only show up when there is a routing list 20:55 cait wizzyrea: do you want to switch bug 8451 to in discussion? 20:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8451 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Confusing and problematic double prompt for processing transfers 20:57 cait brb 21:03 cait back 21:06 cait hm 21:10 cait did you know that every time fine runs a file with patron infomration is created? 21:10 cait fines.pl that is 21:10 cait that's... not good 21:10 * cait gets headaches thinking about her data privacy documentation 21:34 eythian http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/motivation-community-and-the-cost-of-disagreeing 21:35 cait morning eythian 21:35 eythian hello cait 21:36 wizzyrea something that Tim Berners-Lee said, that I felt was apt - was that one has to respect the sacrifice of those who work to develop at the speed of consensus. 21:36 wizzyrea as a lone company, or a small team, that's easy 21:36 wizzyrea not so easy when it's koha-sized 21:37 wizzyrea but still a worthy goal I think 21:38 cait yep 21:38 cait bit hard sometimes, but worth it 21:39 wizzyrea and as we've seen, going on your own doesn't always pay. :/ 21:42 cait wizzyrea: could you take a look at bug 9253? 21:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9253 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , If an item is reserved, at the opac it is marked as available 21:43 wizzyrea sure :) 21:45 wizzyrea well, an item is not available when it is in transit or waiting 21:45 wizzyrea currently though, you can't differentiate between a transfer that belongs to a hold 21:45 wizzyrea and a regular transfer 21:46 wizzyrea regarding availability, every library's definition is different - in some libraries items are available unless they are checked out 21:46 wizzyrea in others they are available only if they are not in transit or waiting or checked out 21:47 cait yeah that was what I was thinking 21:47 cait if it's on the shelf still, it's fair game 21:47 wizzyrea @quote get 123 21:47 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 21:47 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 21:47 wizzyrea and any other variants 21:48 wizzyrea most places, I think, would agree that an item is unavailable and should be marked as such if an item is in transit for a hold, or waiting 21:48 cait what is in transit for a hold? 21:48 wizzyrea when you check out a book at library A for a patron at library b 21:48 cait I thik the items we are taking about here are neither 21:48 cait not necessarily 21:49 wizzyrea it will come up eventually 21:49 cait i am not sure I get the http://perldoc.koha-community.org/C4/Reserves.html#CheckReservesdocs 21:49 cait hm 21:49 cait http://perldoc.koha-community.org/C4/Reserves.html#CheckReserves 21:49 cait because waitin gis another status 21:49 cait I see that transit is another 21:49 cait but what is reserved?? 21:50 cait I tihnk I will leave that for another day 21:51 wizzyrea hm 22:20 cait hi dcook 22:20 dcook hi cait :) 22:39 jops hi all 22:39 cait hi jops 22:41 jops we happily made an istance of koha in our server for our library (social history) 22:43 jops we discovered that we have only the default MARC framework and don't know why we don't have the other frameworks as reported in the wiki. We don't know what went wrong in installation 22:43 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @ranginui: "more #kohails library cards for my wall, 2 from germany this time" 22:43 cait you have to tick a checkbox to get the additional framework 22:43 cait s 22:43 cait they are optional 22:43 cait which language is your installation? 22:44 cait tick the checkbox during installation 22:44 jops Installation language is in english 22:44 jops ah! right 22:45 jops so what do you suggest? 22:45 jops Can we recover it? 22:45 cait you can load them probably 22:46 cait you have to find the sql file that is used to create them and load that into your database 22:46 cait or you rerun the installer - but that will mean losing all the work you did so far 22:47 jops yes, we tried to find the sql with the frameworks 22:48 jops http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MARC_frameworks 22:48 jops we were searching the books one 22:51 jops all this, is because we have added a catalog from another library that has few marc fields compiled 22:52 jops and the best for us, for cataloguing our books, wuold be a specific marc framework, less dispersive 22:53 cait the normal books is not a lot shorter 22:53 cait you might want to look into creating your own frameworks 22:53 jops ah ok 22:53 wizzyrea jops, the sql to import for the frameworks is in installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional 22:53 wizzyrea fastadd may be what you want 22:54 cait the sql files should be in installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional/ 22:54 cait in your koha directory 22:54 jops ok, i-ll check it 22:54 cait ah now wizzyrea was faster 22:54 jops :) 22:54 wizzyrea like first time ever :) 22:54 cait heh 22:56 wizzyrea also simple bib 23:01 wizzyrea @wunder wellington, nz 23:01 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). 23:02 cait good night all :) 23:02 eythian later caiter 23:05 jops thank you for your support cait 23:09 jops wizzyrea: we find the simple_bib you suggested. We have to import in the marc framework in the koha administration backend? 23:11 wizzyrea I haven't ever tried that, tbh. I was thinking something using the command line like mysql -ukoha_instance -p koha_instance < marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql - but I would try importing it through the interface (and let us know if it works) 23:12 wizzyrea koha_instance you replace with your instance name of course 23:12 wizzyrea at least the word "instance" 23:12 wizzyrea if you named your instance "library" it would be koha_library, for example 23:14 wizzyrea (all that assumes you are using the packages) 23:18 eythian if you are using the packages, use the koha-mysql command to get things into mysql. 23:18 eythian it'll save looking up passwords etc. 23:18 wizzyrea ^^ also this. 23:19 wizzyrea do it the other way if you used the tarball 23:19 jops thank you both, we execute the query directly in mysql 23:20 jops and it works. But actually there are more fields! 23:20 wizzyrea for fast add? 23:20 jops simple_bib 23:21 wizzyrea fast add is as short as it gets 23:21 jops and are absent the 200 and 215 fields 23:21 jops but maybe it's because we have an unimarc istance and the frameworks are for marc21? 23:22 jops ofastadd? ok we'll try it now 23:23 jops (and all because we have imported a pmb marc catalog from another library)