Time  Nick           Message
23:54 dcook          Glad that someone is on the ball. I was looking to see if anyone else has had issues out in the world
23:53 dcook          Hehe
23:52 jcamins        Heh. Looks like bgkriegel scooped you. :)
23:38 dcook          Sounds good. Thanks, jcamins.
23:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9583 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC cart button display problem in Chromium
23:37 jcamins        Well, this is not a revertable offense, so update bug 9583 and describe what you have found about the 9265 patch.
23:35 dcook          eythian_: not sure why, but I checkout before and after, and it looks like it's somehow the cause
23:33 dcook          But the cart button display is definitely caused by that commit
23:33 dcook          It might mostly work though
23:32 dcook          The HTML5 doctype patch causes a problem in master
23:32 eythian_       and it works there?
23:32 dcook          Yep
23:32 eythian_       dcook: is it in master?
23:32 dcook          jcamins, eythian_?
23:28 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9265 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Switch to HTML5 doctype in OPAC and staff client
23:28 dcook          Hmm, what's the process to follow here? Bug 9265 is the cause of the OPAC cart button display problem. It's already been pushed to master...do I fail 9265, list 9583 as a bug it blocks, or just reference 9265 in the 9583?
23:28 jcamins        Heh.
23:27 eythian_       wizzyrea is a git repo: http://ubuntuone.com/48M70tZfNUdVwYS0TqUdIq
23:20 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9265 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Switch to HTML5 doctype in OPAC and staff client
23:20 dcook          Bug 9265
23:18 dcook          Mmm, I think I might have found the commit where things get messed up...
23:11 cait           :)
23:11 eythian_       later
23:11 dcook          night, cait
23:11 cait           good night #koha
23:11 cait           eythian_: I will stick with my rules :P
23:11 cait           heh
23:09 * dcook        tries to remember the MythBuster results on that one...
23:08 eythian_       cait: no, it's if food has been on the floor for <5 seconds, it's still safe to eat
23:06 cait           or not cleans
23:06 cait           my rule is more about the who cleans the floor
23:06 cait           dcook: haven't heard aobut that so far :)
23:03 eythian_       In student places, it's a 3-month rule.
23:02 dcook          There is no 5 second rule in Germany for food that has touched the floor?
23:02 eythian_       5-second rule!
23:02 cait           what is this about the 5 seconds?
23:01 * dcook        hearts that image
23:01 eythian_       I suppose it worked that time :)
23:00 wahanui        Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
23:00 eythian_       wahanui: germs?
23:00 cait           eythian_:  trying to annoy me? :)
23:00 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9583 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC cart button display problem in Chromium
23:00 wahanui        well, germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg
23:00 eythian_       wahanui: germs?
23:00 cait           bug 9583
23:00 dcook          Worked fine on my Android phone though
23:00 cait           hm sec
22:59 wahanui        the bug # is there
22:59 dcook          What's the bug #?
22:59 dcook          Worked fine on FF and IE
22:59 dcook          I was using Chrome and Windows 8 and Windows Vista
22:59 dcook          Sweet. I had it on my list of things to do, so maybe I'll just add a comment
22:59 cait           I reported a bug
22:59 cait           ubuntu and chromium, works in firefox
22:58 dcook          What browser and OS were you using?
22:58 cait           no you aren't :)
22:58 dcook          Glad to know I'm not the only one
22:58 cait           misread
22:58 cait           oh
22:58 cait           aha! :)
22:58 jcamins        dcook: cait ran into the same problem with the cart you did.
21:45 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8661 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , break out additional authors in opac like in staff
21:45 jcamins        bug 8661
21:41 cait           bug filed
21:39 jcamins        Well, sure, it works for me, but that's not the point... there are people it doesn't work for.
21:38 cait           someone can close it worksforme then :)
21:38 cait           I will file a bug
21:38 jcamins        Whatever the problem is, it's Chromium-specific, and doesn't seem to be related to the operating system.
21:38 cait           it might be worth
21:38 cait           hm saw it
21:38 jcamins        Nope.
21:38 cait           I was wondering if filing a but makes sense, but if someone else thought it
21:37 cait           so you couldn't reproduce?
21:36 jcamins        Hm.
21:36 cait           ubuntu
21:36 cait           nope
21:36 cait           ah
21:36 jcamins        Are you on Windows?
21:36 jcamins        dcook was saying that.
21:36 cait           the cart button looks weird
21:36 cait           in chromium
21:36 cait           could take someone a look at the current opac (default theme) ?
21:36 cait           hm
21:00 rangi          libsysguy: you about?
20:59 rangi          yep
20:59 jcamins        rangi: and, yes, our is hacky, but sometimes you look at the code and realize that a quick fix that doesn't use our is hopeless.
20:58 cait           rangi++ too :)
20:58 rangi          the email from that review is quite nice too
20:57 rangi          so tonight
20:57 rangi          and do a patch
20:57 rangi          bit
20:57 rangi          i just have to do the syspref
20:57 rangi          sweet
20:57 jcamins        For the record, I want Mozilla Persona authentication in 3.12.
20:56 rangi          i think it will be useful, the inline ones especially
20:56 rangi          and then inline ones too
20:56 rangi          so you can do overall comments
20:56 tweetbot`      [off] twitter: @ranginui: "with the help of the awesome @fmarier I got the #kohails opac working with mozilla persona, just tidying up my patch and submitting for 3.12"
20:56 cait           fishsoup++ :)
20:56 rangi          fishsoup rules
20:56 rangi          yup
20:56 cait           fishsoup again? :)
20:56 rangi          (it saves as draft as you go)
20:55 rangi          then go back to overview and publish
20:55 rangi          and you can comment
20:55 jcamins        Oh, cool!
20:55 rangi          double click on one
20:55 rangi          see any of the coloured bars
20:55 rangi          if you click all files it should be inline
20:55 jcamins        Under overview, not all files.
20:54 rangi          can you see my comment?
20:54 rangi          click on all files
20:54 cait           and clicking through
20:54 cait           watching
20:54 rangi          watch this
20:53 rangi          yup
20:53 cait           is that a new feature/plugin?`
20:53 rangi          try clicking on the splinter review
20:53 rangi          there is details, diff, splinter review
20:53 rangi          see next to the patch
20:52 huginn         04Bug 9451: normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , borrower_stats.pl gives off warnings and is not Plack-compatible
20:52 rangi          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9451
20:52 rangi          so
20:31 eythian_       yeah that makes sense now, I forgot that was in there.
20:31 eythian_       oh right
20:30 jcamins        You said last week you wanted to do a new patch.
20:30 eythian_       I did? I wonder why I did that.
20:30 jcamins        You did, but then you withdrew the patch making the change.
20:29 eythian_       I thought I had...
20:29 jcamins        eythian_: while you're at it, could you please remove the CHI dependencies from the packages?
20:29 * cait         waves :)
20:29 eythian_       time I did a master package rebuild anyway, it needs some patching for test cases I think.
20:28 eythian_       jcamins: OK cool.
20:28 jcamins        eythian_: I was going to bug you about a packaging dependencies update for master. Consider yourself bugged.
20:25 cait           oh
20:25 jcamins        And banging dramatically.
20:25 jcamins        It didn't seem like that much, but it's falling off the roof in huge blocks.
20:24 cait           lots of snow?
20:24 jcamins        Jeez, the blizzard wasn't bad, but the snow falling could kill someone.
20:07 cait           :)
20:06 ambars         koha rulz! gnite folks :)
19:28 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9222 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , manual history reversed in subscription-detail.pl
19:28 jenkins_koha   Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9222: manual history reversed in subscription-detail.pl
19:28 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #1046: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1046/
19:16 * ambars       goes and finishes the web installer steps now
19:16 jcamins        *delegated
19:15 ambars         Ah ok.
19:15 jcamins        I had delegating adding that to someone a few weeks ago, but I guess either the changes didn't get made or they were reverted.
19:14 jcamins        There should be, yes.
19:14 ambars         i mean, to make it more foolproof for n00bs like me
19:14 ambars         i can't see how i missed that... should there be some mention of this step ("adjust the ServerName") on the instructions page?
19:12 jcamins        Yay!
19:12 jcamins        :)
19:11 ambars         thank you!!!
19:11 * ambars       hugs jcamins
19:11 ambars         it works!!
19:09 jcamins        Then restart Apache with `sudo apache2ctl restart`
19:09 ambars         cool, lemme try that
19:08 jcamins        So all you have to do is add ".artofliving.org" at the end of the ServerName lines.
19:08 jcamins        Okay.
19:08 ambars         library.artofliving.org for the OPAC and library-intra.artofliving.org for the staff site
19:07 jcamins        *host names
19:07 jcamins        What DNS are you trying to use?
19:07 ambars         that's my apache conf
19:07 ambars         could you please see this: http://pastebin.com/VGAQJqd3
19:04 jcamins        And if you don't have DNS and need to use ports you can change the port number in the intranet VirtualHost tag, and add "Listen 8080" (or whatever) to /etc/apache2/ports.conf
19:03 jcamins        I favor intra.library.whatever.com over library-intra.whatever.com, but it doesn't actually make a difference.
19:03 jcamins        The second is for the Intranet, and is the one that you'll probably need to adjust to match your DNS.
19:03 jcamins        So if you take a look in that file, the first VirtualHost is the OPAC.
19:01 jcamins        The only problem is that it's easy to add too many periods (or too few) in the setup process, in which case you end up with an incomprehensible ServerName like library-intra..koha
19:01 ambars         okay
19:01 jcamins        Then you just use Virtual Hosts.
19:00 jcamins        Right, that's the recommended configuration.
19:00 ambars         both are on 80
19:00 ambars         reasonably familiar... regarding that... i'm running both the staff page and the OPAC on the same IP and same port number... the instructions didn't specify setting up the staff site over 8080
18:59 jcamins        If you are, I can tell you this is a completely typical Apache configuration so you just need to adjust ServerName to match what you have the DNS set up with.
18:59 jcamins        Are you familiar with Apache configuration and DNS?
18:58 jcamins        So the solution is going to involve opening up /etc/apache2/sites-available/library (or whatever you called your instance)
18:58 ambars         i see
18:57 jcamins        There's no system maintenance page on the staff client, which means that you're trying to access the OPAC both times.
18:57 ambars         yes, it's probably a dns issue
18:57 jcamins        I knew what you meant.
18:57 jcamins        Nice and easy to resolve. :)
18:57 ambars         sorry, i meant the "system maintenance" page
18:57 jcamins        Sounds like a DNS issue.
18:57 jcamins        Ah, there is no staff maintenance page.
18:56 huginn         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
18:56 jcamins        @later tell wizzyrea Could you please revert patch c0e60a9079c8ffa970676172870eab75ccbcac5d (bug 8924) from 3.6.x? I keep on meaning to ask you, and keep on forgetting.
18:56 ambars         i get the staff maintenance page also for the library-intra page
18:56 jcamins        In fact, I think I'm the one who said to uninstall nullmailer. :P
18:55 jcamins        I use the packages and don't use nullmailer.
18:55 ambars         ok
18:55 jcamins        Nope.
18:55 ambars         i didn't setup nullmailer properly (during the "install koha-common" phase), i hope nullmailer isn't a mandatory package
18:55 jcamins        The documentation had you set it up with a URL something like library-intra.yourdomain.com, I think.
18:55 ambars         i saw one post about removing nullmailer, and i did that
18:54 jcamins        ambars: you need to access the staff client at this point.
18:54 ambars         i'm stuck on the "system maintenance" page and don't know how to troubleshoot from here on... apache logs aren't helping
18:53 ambars         i'm trying to setup koha on ubuntu 12.04
18:53 ambars         hi again
18:46 KOYAUNI        http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/
18:46 KOYAUNI        I found it
18:43 KOYAUNI        does any one know whether there is a Koha testing server somewhere, so we can get our students to try the application
18:42 KOYAUNI        Hello to all
18:23 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9222' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f081ac91b21cb8200ca2c273b40f02bd6e72005a> / Bug 9222: manual history reversed in subscription-detail.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a5795e320985e31e8452f2e6a1e3211e654f16b>
18:21 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1046 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:19 jcamins        Where "understand" = "have some vague idea what is going on"
18:18 jcamins        I now understand.
18:18 jcamins        No need.
18:18 cait           but if you want I can take a look in a fewminutes
18:17 cait           you confsued me
18:16 jcamins        This is just another bug.
18:16 jcamins        Wait...
18:16 jcamins        Silly jcamins, applying logic to serials!
18:14 jcamins        I was expecting the link that says "Cancel manual history" to have anything to do with manual history.
18:14 jcamins        The serials edit screen is terrible.
18:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9222 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , manual history reversed in subscription-detail.pl
18:13 jcamins        I just figured out my problem with bug 9222.
18:13 jcamins        Wait...
18:11 cait           like a ...warning or something
18:11 cait           hm the weather report shoudl say something about people in crazy costumes
18:11 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -3.0°C (7:00 PM CET on February 10, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling).
18:10 cait           @wunder Konstanz
18:10 cait           :)
18:10 cait           heh
18:08 jcamins        It may not work nearly as well, but at least I know right away that it's broken.
18:07 jcamins        Possibly also by Plack.
18:07 jcamins        I'm spoiled by my nice fast server.
18:05 jcamins        It's so slow!
18:05 jcamins        I can't believe I used to test things on this VM.
16:43 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9380 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , branch not recording right on writeoff
16:43 jenkins_koha   Kyle M Hall: Bug 9380 - branch not recording right on writeoff
16:43 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_master build #1045: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1045/
16:39 cait1          changing trains - bye all
16:39 * cait1        is still working through the backlog
16:39 * cait1        doestoo *sigh*
16:35 jcamins        :P
16:35 * jcamins      does not cheat. Me reads every single message.
16:35 libsysguy      :p
16:35 jcamins        Cheater!
16:35 libsysguy      heh I am contemplating unsubscribing from patches too
16:34 cait1          libsysguy: not subscribing to the bug list? tss ;)
16:33 jcamins        Well, continues writing the e-mail he's been working on the entire time he was talking about the message.
16:33 libsysguy      good call
16:33 libsysguy      heh
16:33 * jcamins      moves on.
16:33 jcamins        Having had extensive experience with this, though, I know better than to ask for clarification.
16:32 jcamins        But I read it as him claiming that when he choose not to overwrite a record from Z39.50, the record is overwritten in Zebra but not MySQL, which makes no sense at all.
16:32 * libsysguy    doesn't subscribe to the bugs list
16:32 * jcamins      doesn't know.
16:31 libsysguy      maybe he means that importing something from z39.50 overwrites his current item?
16:31 jcamins        There's no possible response other than "huh?"
16:31 cait1          that's confusing somethings maybe
16:31 cait1          hm
16:31 jcamins        No need to.
16:31 cait1          internet too bad to try to read that
16:31 cait1          ah right
16:31 jcamins        Paul from AANDC has claimed that searching for something using Z39.50 overwrites the record in Zebra.
16:30 wahanui        well, mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
16:30 cait1          mailing list?
16:30 cait1          ?
16:30 cait1          hm
16:30 jcamins        The latest message on the bugs list.
16:30 libsysguy      I'm confused…maybe I missed something in the playback?
16:30 jcamins        Not really.
16:29 jcamins        Z39.50 import?
16:29 libsysguy      good answer wahanui
16:29 wahanui        hmmm... everything is grilled
16:29 libsysguy      everything?
16:27 jcamins        wtf does Z39.50 have to do with the Zebra database?
16:27 jcamins        Was that English?
16:22 * cait1        nods
16:20 ambars         bye
16:20 * ambars       starts installing koha on his EC2 tiny instance
16:18 ambars         thanks for all your help... i heard that koha had an awesome community and indeed you guys rock :)
16:18 ambars         very cool
16:17 * jcamins      uses Koha for private collectors.
16:17 jcamins        You won't need a lot of the features, but if they want to circulate and/or catalog books, an ILS is the way to go.
16:16 jcamins        No.
16:16 ambars         is an ILS overkill for this scenario?
16:16 ambars         one last thing... do you think that koha is the right solution for a small library? i mean, it might have around a 1000 books and very few patrons. it also probably won't scale up its catalog soon.
16:13 ambars         cool, i'll check the manual
16:12 cait1          you rlibrary might not want to use all of it, not in the beginning I think
16:12 jcamins        All the basics are the same, but there are lots of features that may not be documented in PDF form yet.
16:12 cait1          yeah... ILS do lots of stuff :)
16:11 jcamins        The PDF is out of date.
16:11 cait1          on each page
16:11 cait1          there is also context help within koha
16:11 ambars         yes, i downloaded the pdf and groaned when i saw it's over 600 pages long
16:11 jcamins        (warning: it's long)
16:11 jcamins        ^^ you'll want to read that. :)
16:11 wahanui        somebody said manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation
16:11 jcamins        manual?
16:11 jcamins        Sure, just set it up so that certain types of items are not for loan.
16:10 ambars         what about this one: "Exception : Certain categories of books are available for learning within the library, these needs to be restricted from issuance."
16:10 cait1          ... and sorry about all my typos today
16:10 ambars         jcamins: right... and it's inbuilt into koha anyway!
16:09 jcamins        With a Drupal module, you'd need to get all the data out of Koha into Drupal, just to send an SMS.
16:09 cait1          you can send email of course
16:09 * cait1        nods
16:09 jcamins        But it'll work a lot better than a Drupal module.
16:09 ambars         wow, it's already in koha! i'll give it a shot when i get to it
16:09 jcamins        Probably.
16:09 cait1          i tmight require testing
16:09 jcamins        Neither am I.
16:09 cait1          there is an option you can activate tho
16:09 cait1          hm koha can do that I tihnk - but we are not using hte feature
16:09 jcamins        Because you need a driver depending on your SMS provider.
16:08 jcamins        Koha has support for SMS, but it requires development.
16:08 ambars         so i'm guessing that will need something like a drupal module
16:08 ambars         one of the requirements that the NGO person had is: "Send reminders to the members using SMS"... where members == patrons
16:06 cait1          hm
16:06 ambars         ah ok
16:06 cait1          out of the train might be a bit hard, and no camera at hand - phone accu dead
16:06 ambars         cait1: take a pic and share it :)
16:05 cait1          it's lovely
16:05 cait1          you people would love the snowy landscape outside my train window :)
16:05 cait1          it used to be cool
16:05 cait1          bit sad
16:05 cait1          hm old svn log dates too
16:04 cait1          and they have tried contriubting to sopac in the past
16:04 cait1          yeah, they are working on a new module I think
16:04 jcamins        cait1: no, SOPAC definitely looks dead.
16:04 cait1          maybe that change
16:04 cait1          on the website
16:04 jcamins        BibLibre does something with Drupal, but it's not called SOPAC.
16:04 libsysguy      I know at one time there was a way to use the lucene index in drupal and scrape know
16:04 cait1          i thin kit is, because last time I checked the forum was full of spam
16:03 cait1          hm sorry libsysguy
16:03 libsysguy      oops, disregard my babbling then mib_siz4c7
16:03 libsysguy      oh is it?
16:03 cait1          and sopac is kind of dead I think
16:02 libsysguy      #link http://thesocialopac.net/
16:02 jcamins        However, that's probably unnecessary for you, and you might as well stick with just Koha until you find you need something else.
16:02 libsysguy      SOPAC
16:02 libsysguy      ^^ this
16:02 jcamins        What you could do is have an ILS + CMS, and have the CMS display your bibliographic records.
16:01 jcamins        Very bad fit.
16:01 mib_siz4c7     perhaps that explains the lack of drupal modules and distributions for the library use-case... it's probably a bad fit for a CMS
16:01 mib_siz4c7     jcamins: wow! ok!
16:01 jcamins        At least, not without constant web developer help.
16:00 jcamins        mib_siz4c7: I don't think managing a library is possible in a CMS.
15:59 cait1          when you start looking deeper into it
15:59 mib_siz4c7     plus there are no standard drupal "distributions" for the library use-case (or at least, i could not find a proper one)
15:59 cait1          you migt be sursprised what an ILS is supposed to do
15:58 cait1          true :)
15:58 mib_siz4c7     yes, i am beginning to see that it's possible in a CMS, but i'd have to reinvent the wheel since it's all already done in an ILS like koha
15:58 jcamins        On the other hand, an ILS like Koha is not intended for building a website.
15:56 cait1          way more than a cms cando
15:56 cait1          and of course you can circulate books and manage your borrower data
15:56 cait1          it's build to manage library workflows and has an opac for the library users as a frontend
15:56 cait1          you can acquire books, manage serial subscriptions, catalog materials, provide an opac etc. with koha
15:55 cait1          it's for managing workflows
15:55 cait1          a library management software / integrated library system is ... like an erp system
15:55 mib_siz4c7     and how to provide an OPAC
15:55 cait1          hm it's 2 different things
15:55 mib_siz4c7     someone in an NGO asked me to find a proper solution for automating their library processes this morning
15:54 mib_siz4c7     i was initially pondering whether a CMS was the right solution for a "library management software" and since then i discovered koha
15:53 mib_siz4c7     i see...
15:53 jcamins        Exactly.
15:52 cait1          but it's not a library wesite replacement :)
15:52 cait1          without problems
15:52 cait1          you can design and have content on the opac front page from within koha
15:52 jcamins        (for non-catalog things)
15:52 jcamins        Only if you need a CMS.
15:52 mib_siz4c7     is there a need to have a CMS on top of koha? i saw that there are some drupal modules that can connect to koha
15:51 mib_siz4c7     btw, i'm a total n00b at this, so please help me with a couple other things
15:49 mib_siz4c7     cool
15:48 cait1          3.10 has some nice featurs like a alternative design for the opac
15:47 cait1          :)
15:47 mib_siz4c7     i think i'll try the 3.10.2 version out then
15:46 mib_siz4c7     nice to make your acquaintance :)
15:45 cait1          ah, I am from Germany
15:45 cait1          and using the packages is def a good way to get started
15:45 mib_siz4c7     i'm from india
15:45 cait1          mib_siz4c7: out of interest :) where are you from?
15:44 cait1          both are stable, it's just that 3.10 is not out as long and there is always something here and there
15:44 mib_siz4c7     i'm just experimenting with koha right now, i'm not setting up a production server :)
15:44 cait1          if you plan to go into production like next week I would maybe pick 3.8.x
15:44 cait1          i think if you want to learn about Koha I would use the latest release
15:43 cait1          not quite easy to answre :)
15:43 cait1          hm
15:42 mib_siz4c7     my question is, should i go for the latest stable release (3.10.x) or should i use 3.8.x?
15:42 mib_siz4c7     i'm following these instructions: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
15:41 mib_siz4c7     i just discovered koha, and am going to try installing it on ubuntu precise
15:41 cait1          hi mib_siz4c7
15:40 mib_siz4c7     hi all
15:38 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9380' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d38120cc27e530aa4124728daf69b5fc597ddb2a> / Bug 9380 - branch not recording right on writeoff <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d4896eace493e761d1b47fb93f3331617498d8b>
15:36 jenkins_koha   Starting build #1045 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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15:06 cait1          cool
15:05 jcamins        Thanks.
15:05 jcamins        Got it.
15:05 cait1          I checked the database table, but I think you could also use the log viewer in staff
15:05 cait1          then it should record that you waive fines with the branch the fine is waived at
15:05 jcamins        So that meant action_logs?
15:05 cait1          fineslog needs to be turned on
15:05 jcamins        I didn't even know where to look.
15:05 cait1          ?
15:05 * jcamins      could tell. :P
15:05 cait1          did you check action_logs
15:05 * cait1        is on a train again...
15:04 jcamins        You should have it in git already. :)
15:04 cait           internet might be bad tho - on a trian again
15:04 cait           right let me take a look
15:04 jcamins        I don't understand where there's a problem.
15:04 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9380 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Passed QA , branch not recording right on writeoff
15:04 jcamins        cait: since you're here, could you explain bug 9380?
15:03 * jcamins_away waves back.
14:59 * cait         waves
04:43 spiker         also I don't have the librarian here with me, but someone told me there were users on the system and I was trying to make sure they still existed, but I can't find anything like a "user" table in the db to figure out what they were
04:41 spiker         is it referenced anywhere else? because on the new install I've done it's been autogenerated to koha_instance, but in the old installation they had it was kohaadmin and I was trying to reset it back to that so that they don't have to change anything
04:40 spiker         just to make sure, the user defined in the <config> branch in /etc/koha/sites/$instance/koha-conf.xml is both for the database and the intra admin interface, correct?
03:01 rangi          hmm
03:01 jcamins_away   login failure[object Object]
03:01 rangi          its just running on my laptop so is probably slow
03:00 rangi          [off] it should work with your gmail address
02:59 rangi          [off] http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org:8081/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
02:57 jcamins_away   That's awesome!
02:57 jcamins_away   Oh, wow.
02:57 jcamins_away   I have not.
02:56 rangi          have you used mozilla persona? i have it going with koha now
02:56 jcamins_away   Yeah, what's up?
02:42 rangi          jcamins_away: you about?
01:49 spiker         have a good one
01:49 spiker         anyway, dinner time
01:49 spiker         and sorry, I've nbever used koha so I wasn't aware that daemon was supposed to be running
01:48 jcamins_away   You're welcome.
01:48 spiker         thanks again and enjoy your weekend!
01:48 spiker         I need dinner too
01:48 jcamins_away   Yay!
01:48 spiker         that was it
01:48 spiker         win!
01:48 jcamins_away   If you come back during the week, there tend to be a lot more people around.
01:47 * jcamins_away needs some dinner now.
01:47 jcamins_away   Run `sudo service koha-common restart`
01:46 spiker         "No results found!" <-- new one
01:46 spiker         “kw,wrdl: am ” returned 20 results. <-- old one (just using random kw)
01:45 spiker         ok, it completed. same deal tho
01:42 spiker         and sorry, my bad, it's actually noted in the upgrade section
01:41 spiker         ah, thanks
01:38 jcamins_away   Now run `sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f [instancename]`
01:38 jcamins_away   I've been working on an index for 9 hours.
01:38 jcamins_away   Sorry.
01:37 jcamins_away   Right, I forgot to tell you the last command.
01:35 spiker         but when I search from the web interface I find nothing while on the old server for the same keyword I get a bunch of results
01:35 spiker         but nothing that stands out as horribly broken
01:35 spiker         no major errors, just a couple things on stuff like 'privacy' column being duplicated
01:34 spiker         4967 records processed
01:34 spiker         the updates and rebuild seem to have been successful
01:33 spiker         mmmh, it completed (about 1hr run), but it doesn't seem to have been successful
00:14 jcamins        You could probably grind the coffee beans by hand, too.
00:14 spiker         bbl
00:14 spiker         going to make a coffee as the script suggested ;)
00:13 spiker         ok, will double check, thank you
00:13 jcamins        But, yeah, you can also look at the "marcflavour" system preference.
00:13 spiker         ok, thanks, then I picked the right one
00:13 jcamins        MARC21, since you're in the US.
00:13 jcamins        If you have a different MARC format set up, the new database will get messed up.
00:13 spiker         when doing the web installation part it asked me marc21 or unimarc and I didn't know which one and the librarian isn't around
00:13 jcamins        Oh, that's _VERY_ important.
00:12 spiker         another quick question, with access to the old server, is it possible to tell what MARC format they used?